SO BIG IT’S DUMB? Cold Steel 4Max Scout
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Pretty much a crossover knife from pocket to fixed blade survival. I happen to like big folders and this knife does not disappoint. The wide blade options that cold steel offers are truly impressive from a durability standpoint. A lot of people do not like cold steel knives and they make their arguments but, Lynn Thompson and Andrew Demko have made more contributions to the knife community in recent history than virtually anyone else. The company offers a blade for any purpose that you need.
Except for maybe another Swiss Army knife for nostalgia’s sake, I can’t even consider any folder without the tri-ad lock.
Well said...
Agree ☝️💯‼️
That’s because most are sadly steel snobs and enjoy blowing their pay checks on over priced edc and folders. But tbh it’s personal preference and that’s fine.
I'd love to show a picture of it but I don't know how
I carried average size knives for decades, benchmade, strider, at, Emerson, … I was never happy. Until I got my hands on a Cold Steel Voyager XL. Love at first sight. I have big hands and until I found this knife, everything was always wanting.
It's simple, and it's not that large... normally you don't go around with a fixed blade in your waist, so, you have a pocket, capable and reliable knife that you can carry in every circumstance ( maybe not the date dinner)...
TRUE
It's pretty dumb
yes even then you must have a knife in your pocket,keep her safe you know
Can’t wait to open a 4Max scout. Dinner means the Microtech comes with 😜
Massive tank of a blade; probably would fit well into a belt pocket of a backpack. I don't think it is dumb at all, but very cool. Thanks Aaron for another great review.
Love this knife, this is my EDC when at work, the size is helpful when trying to manipulate with one hand when wearing gloves, tough enough to hold up to the oilfield but affordable enough that if for some reason it gets broken. Handle and blade are easy to spray clean when it gets greasy. 10/10
Good review. Yes it is comically large and not really for the office or dress pants. My pocket clip was so tight as to be unusable out of the box, but it was an easy fix. I still prefer my large Voyager for a carry knife, but when you need to go big, this thing rocks.
The 4Max scout has been my EDC for the last month and I've grown really fond of the size. It really has that "WHOA THIS THING IS AWESOME" feel every time I pull it out to use it.
It can literally cut up a puny gas station knife.
Stop making me want to buy things lmao
Got mine last week. Had to rework the spring slightly to be able to easily unlock it. Works a treat now. Extremely happy with it.
you guys should watch joe x's stress test of the 4max scout, one of the rare occasions where he couldn't kill the knife😂
seriously: this is probably the tankiest and most reliable folder ever.
Awesome video, nice job. Awesome knife. It works excellent to good for about everything. I like to carry bigger folders. I find myself reaching for the bigger ones out of my collection a lot more than sub 3 1/2" blades. Great job Aaron, keep em coming!
The 4Max Scout , absolutely without a doubt totally Awesome, YES !!!
My neighbor got one before I did, we are always buying knives and brother I love me some cold Steel.
Cold Steel makes knives for anytime any place, good weather, bad weather they have the knife for you.
This 4Max Scout will be mine very soon. I own many Cold Steel knives, machetes walking sticks, never once have I been disappointed.
The right tool for the right job. Nevertheless like everyone else, just my opinion. Great video thanks for sharing.
I take this badboy when I head out sledding or quadding and lemme tell you making a quick bush fire for a meal is so easy it's not even funny with this beast. I bought mine lightly used for $45 and it has more than paid that back itself in it's capabilities even as an edc surprisingly due to the choil.
Cold Steel knives aren’t for everyone. But everyone at one point will wish they had one with them when needed.
The 4max and 4max Scout are the pinnacle of that concept. Both have survived numerous torture tests on YT. Best folders money can buy.
You've convinced me sir! Just ordered 2..
Hope you enjoy them!
"Such a huge tool.." - Gideons Tactical 2022... 😂
😂 you know it
Greetings from Finland and an awesome GT video again. You’re absolutely right that you can use this great big folding knife in cold winter with thick gloves very easily. The 4max Scout is definitely my favorite when I don’t want to carry my fixed blades (e.g. BK2) in a winter forest having 1m of snow for several months.
I have payed for it 63$ and there is no other knife even close to it about 150-200$ price range. Absolutely, love it. It is not that big. I have no issues carrying in my back pocket. So I recommend to everyone
Ad10 is way better for $90. Better handles, far better blade
@@kenmastersmaster by that time when i made this comment, ad10 was about 150 I guess, and 4max scout 60+ I know that ad10 costs more for that steel and handle materials, but for that price range 4max scout is unbeatable
@@Levkhat it's funny when the ad10 went to $90 the 4max was around $80 so it's a no brainier to get the ad10. 4 max is kind of a dumb knife compared to ad10/ad15. It's good for $60 but I wouldn't pay $80-100 for it unless they use better scales or steel. But if you want a big knife just get a Voyager xl. Better for slicing and also $60 but lighter and 1.5 inches longer and even comes serrated which is useful for cutting and sawing
@@kenmastersmaster I am not comparing scout to ad10/15. I own most of the cold steels and I am a big fan, there is no doubt that ad10 or ad15 are better than 4maxscout, but for a hard heavy use, they can't beat scout
@@Levkhat S35 steel destroys aus10 by huge margins in edge retention and corrosion resistance. There have been durability tests on TH-cam where the aus10 loses its edge while s35 goes easily 3 times longer. The 4 max should have come with s35 and I don't mean the elite which is $300. The scout needs better steel and handles while staying around $100
People often mock these knives from the viewpoint of being an unreasonably large pocketknife, which it is, but it makes more sense to think of them as a fixed blade knife that folds. For a fixed blade knife they're a fairly modest size and they're made so well they'll stack up in durability and use with most any actual fixed blade. You don't have to carry a sheath and it only takes up half the size. It could fit it a lot of small pockets like horizontally on a backpacking waistbelt or in the administration pocket of any pack. This isn't to say everyone should get one but I do think there's a realistic niche where these big folders have advantages other than just being a comically large pocketknife.
@DTL I actually agree about the 4Max, I just don't think I'd use it or like it enough to tote it around even in a pack. I love the AD10 and some of CS's other knives including the Airlite but I wish they all had steel liners, a feature I think any hard use folder should include. The AD10 is aluminum so that's something.
Lots of value. And so nice for guys with very large hands like myself that it fits in standard grip without gloves. Quality and finish are top notch in this price range.
I’ve had mine for 2 years now, and my edc in bush, it makes cutting game down easy. And chopping lighter then a hatchet and more usage for me. Weight isn’t an issue, use to have weight on hips from webbing or duty belt. Love it
I have found that I have a tough time choosing between this and an Esee 4 S35VN for an edc that can do hard use tasks and squeeze into a survival role. They are similar in size and both weigh 10 ounces (with sheath on esee). Each have their advantages and disadvantages. Esee has better steel, a lifetime warranty, and obviously can’t break the lock. 4 max is half the price, so even if you somehow managed to break it you can buy a second and still be less than the esee. So warranty isn’t a big deal here. I highly doubt you will break the lock. 4 max is actually more ergonomic even though it’s a folder, due to the large handle. And the 4 max is a better chopper because it carries its full weight on the knife, whereas the esee leaves 2 ounces on the sheath. Plus the longer handle lets you get a better wrist flick. The esee batons slightly better because there’s no thumb stud in the way. Overall I like them both for this role and have a hard time choosing, but right now I’m leaning towards the 4 max.
I have one of these . Its my go to for heavy task & my get back home knife that can handle anything . Since I work for a large company . It allows me to carry this knife without drawing notice while walking around . Great knife .
Definitely the best value for the money. I was never a big Cold Steel fan, I thought they looked gimmicky. But this one is a win
Love my cold steels. Only problem is choosing which one(s) to carry. Mostly EDC 4Max scout, Talwar xhp, Large Espada, or Vaquero with a Tuff Lite. If that won’t get it done you need ammo.
Own one of these myself, and I absolutely love it. For the size, I have felt that it carries amazingly well. A total workhorse. Couldn't recommend it more! One easier way to open it is to press on the lock and flick it open, as the thumbstuds can get rough if you are using it all day with no gloves. Great video!
Thanks for watching 👍
I got one too, easy to carry not heavy at all, nice knowing you have a powerhouse blade in your pocket in case you break down, run into trouble, etc! I have no need to buy another knife unless it’s a custom show type, but I wanted something I could actually use everyday, something beefy, robust, unbreakable lock, just tough ASF! If your thinking of buying this, DO NOT HESITATE, make sure you get the 4MAX ELITE/ S35VN!!😎👍
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Thanks man for another great review, thanks so much for comparing it to the bk2 as i just brought one so it was very helpful.
That Amazon deal was IMPOSSIBLE to resist and, I'm glad I didn't! This is a really GREAT knife! It's my favorite "go to" utility and EVERYTHING knife I don't know how I did without it before... Lol! Great video as usual, on a great knife...
It was $55 on Amazon for black Friday
@@kenmastersmasternot much of a discount even now.
@@rietzhu these were $40 all summer at Midway. Just wait a few months
Just bought one for $46 on amazon...worth a shot at that price imo.
Great review - the 4 Max Scout is the over-built pocket knife that everyone secretly wants. I own 4.
If your like Me and you love large and XL Blades from Cold Steel , this is an Awesome Knife and a Must Have ... Ive Buttoned some bigger 3" - 31/2" logs and branches with the Scout and my Voyager XL clip point with No Problems , it is a bit scary but they did it without any problems. And the AUS10 with CS's great heat treat is an Awesome Steel , really tough and holds a great edge especially through wood . And it's only $73.00 on Amazon right now And the AD10 , with S35VN steel , is only $110.00 on Amazon , so pick your poison...👍🖖
wow. AD 10 in Europe is 200 Euros.
chicago knife works $72 and they eat the tax. mini recon is nice too for $43.
I have the DLT Trading exclusive one. While it's less then ideal for striking a fero rod, it's possible to do so either just behind the thumb studs or in front of the swedge where the drop point is.
Have carried a zt300 for about 10 yrs but not my edc knife cause I only carry it for situations/places where I think there's a potential to have to use it for slicing through ligaments and tendons hahaha. I don't use that knife for anything else but there have been occasions where someone asked me for a knife and I whip it out and their expressions are priceless because of its size and design. I found after a few carries that knife is so comfortable and perfect for me, I've almost spent the $ buying another 1 as a edc for every task. When I saw this knife awhile back I loved it's design aswell and it's size reminded me of my zt. I haven't bought one yet but I think this might be the next one on my list.
Hi, I have both the 4max scout and the elite, which one would be better to take on a camping hiking trip, I know the elite is more hi end, or do you think keep the elite in reserve because it's more expensive to replace? Just asking, I really love both these knives so tuff really good
I love this knife !
I batoned with my cold steel ak47 and my 4max scout. Both perform well.
The 4max scout is just a perfect example of one knife for the rest of your life. Buy it.
I have an AD-10 that I really like but I am tempted by this one just because me want.
Yeah, probably kind of big in the pocket... but in a belt sheath, it ought to work just fine.
- Been rocking a AD15 for the last year, in a sheath... Just like I used to carry a large Sebenza, and it works just fine
$54.21 on Amazon as of 01/19/24. Super deal on a super knife. I have this one and a AD10.
A pocket survival knife without lock pins or slow opening lock mechanisms that can double as an emergency paddle. SWEET
I bought the XL voyager drop point. This style of knife is a lot of fun!
For sure!!
@@gideonstactical
Have you seen Jeorg Sprave's Pocket 'Chete?
Love my Cold Steel 4 Max Scout... beast, tough and solid folding knife! 💙
Yes I own it and love it but what I did I took my locksmith files which are very fine and I halfway down the blade I put a quarter inch serrated edge just enough to rip it up
It's not dumb at all I love cold steer mega folders!!
Its an outstanding knife and it offers people a way to easily edc a "survival" knife. It's also best carried on the hip, closed, in a sheath (instead of pocket). There are several custom sheath makers available.
I personally love the 4Max Scout.Its a great all purpose blade and I wouldn't be scared to baton it and have.
Another great folder from CS! I might have to add this one to my collection. Many of us prefer extra large folding knives for EDC, me included. I routinely carry many of the XL cold steels. I'm rocking the XL Voyager tanto today. I've got a large Espada on the way, which should really be designated an XL, and the XL Espada should be called an XXL.
Voyager XL Tanto is a rad knife.
4 Max Scout is indeed a monster, 4 Max Elite is even tougher. These days I only carry my AD-10 and 4 Max Elite. simply love both with S35VN, 4 Max Scout somehow is considered semi-retired
I was carrying my Recon1 but just swapped it out for my 4Max Scout after watching this! Love this blade. Edc for about 12 weeks and only changed it when I got an AD10. The handle ergonomics are just so good on the 4Max Scout especially for someone with large size hands!
4max or ad10?
I’m on the fence. Which is best for survivalism?
@@theheretic3764 I was having the same dilemma. Had to order online without being able to see or handle them. The blade shape is very similar but it's all in the handle. It changes the dynamic completely. The 4Max is much better for any chopping and the bigger blade is great for a multitude of tasks. The AD10 is more refined, and will perform the same tasks but the handle position will fatigue your arm more if you chop with it. I bought the 4 Max first but still wanted the AD10. If I had bought the AD10 I'm not sure I would have gone for the 4 Max Scout. I use my 4Max Scout in the woods because it's just bad ass crazy and puts a smile on my face everytime I use it. The AD10 for home when I want a strong folder on me. Try and get your hands on one as you will understand the handle dynamic instantly. They look similar on line but have very different personalities. I think the AD10 is probably the more useful but that's just my opinion!
@@Wideranger I think I would get the 4 max before I got the 4 max scout.
That is 35V is just too hard to pass up. I’m not a big fan of AUS 10.
@@theheretic3764 keep in mind it’s also really hard to pass up the price difference I bought my scout for $80 on Amazon where the 4max is $300
5 max....
Put it in a belt sheath, don't put it in your pocket.
Also, you can "fix" the "throwing sparks" problem by sharpening a chosen spot on the spine to be an acute 90deg.
Also, i believe the ORIGINAL 4max was created prior to the AD10. So, in fact the 4max is the parent of the AD10 NOT the reverse.
Also..
I absolutely disagree with you about using it for food prep. It's a fabulous vegetable chopper, meat cutter if you are used to Chinese cleavers, or Japanese nakiri.
Opening boxes is a dream because the shear mass of the knife blasts through cardboard, heavy packaging tape, and harder plastic packages than a tiny knife.
I have the sr1 lite and it's very similar to the scout. Great for bushcraft and camping!
Getting mine on Christmas Eve
Update :
Just got it, and,
First thing I used it for was to wrap some presents for my mom.
So good first use
Update 2 :
I messed mine up and had to order a new one,
No fault of the knife though
And now there's a 5Max. 😄
This is the reason I love Cold Steel. These designs appeal to the male fantasy! :P
It’s glorious!!! 😂😂 I love it!
Cold Steel fan boy here. The AD-10 is the child, not parent of 4MAXX I believe. Please review the 5 MAXX, it is even more awesome ! Stronger than that fixed blade Becker, and its a folder; quite likely. BTW, I do not carry mine in my pocket, but in my back pack.
It's not everywhere you can conceal carry a fixed blade, and this is where the 4-Max comes into play. It's as close to a fixed blade as any folder comes. I carry an Italian 4-Max CPM-20CV in a belt holder, an SR1 in my pocket and a Spartan around my neck. :)
Btw the lock-pin on the Scout is smaller than on the 20CV version.
The problem is that many states & municipalities won't allow someone to conceal carry a fixed blade knife. That's where this knife, and knives like the Voyager XL make sense. I make no bones about it. I carry my Voyager XL for self defense. I'll likely never use it for anything but self defense. For that type of work, I'll carry a fixed blade.
G'day Aaron, yep love the beefy fellas, particularly from CS. Only problem is if I had one of these many of my other folders and indeed smaller fixys become somewhat obsolete; its already a bit that way with the Recon 1 and Gator premo. Cheers Duke.
I have the shorter version. It's a folder, I would take to the Mountains.
Another excellent video sir! Thank you.
Yourself and JoeX are not they same type of guy , comparing both reviews it’s a wild difference
Would you still recommend the 4Max over the 4Max Scout?
Not sure unless your really are going to use it, a ton. That’s the beauty of it that it’s not $350 or whatever the full size is.
@@gideonstactical I have the AD10 already though. A 4Max Scout is a "want" purchase lol
Just got a Scout and I've never felt any folding knife as robust and quality as this knife.
Cool knife ..but Nooo way I'll buy the one with AUS10 .. I'll save some money and go with s35vn
I regularly carry a Benchmade adamas folder that is 9 ounces and virtually as long. So I would not be bothered by another ounce or so.
I wanted to get Sr1 lite, now I just don't know. Both look tough as hell
The SR1 lite will be easier to carry in the pocket the 4max is doable but it is huge.
My EDC has been a small SAK for 40+ years and I almost always use the small blade. I'm just not seeing this knife replacing it.
😂 for sure!
I’m pretty positive that this knife will out perform many fixed blade knives on the market (as far as durability goes). If you are doubting that, just watch the video on the channel JOE X. I’m extremely confident that I’ll never break this knife. If it does actually break while I’m using it then a train piggybacking on the space shuttle just fell on my head.
Cold Steel should have named that knife, "African Safari", lol. it's huge.
The triad block held way more than 600 lb is well over I think 1400 or 1600
I really like my 4max, and the AUS10 is waaay better than I thought it’d be, it takes a really keen convex edge, holds it pretty well, and it strops back to keen quick-n-easy.
I never “edc” it, thats kinda silly for 99.9% of my life, but every time I travel or trail it certainly rides in my all-purpose Vanquest FTIM pouch with all the essentials… it kick out my SR1 (g10/s35vn) because the 4max is more comfortable and it slices better.
The AD10 is a great option for a pack strap or chest bag.
But.. I dont like the big gap between the scale and thumb stud, its kinda awkward. The handle could be a bit thicker through the index finger area.
I got the SR1 lite for the reasons you mentioned. On some hikes, there are a lot of people on them. So I think having a decent-sized knife in my pocket, rather than having a fixed blade that draws too much attention is best. I also EDC it in my back pocket while I keep my Prolite in the front for more detailed work. I am looking into getting a recon one to replace my carrying two knives. Do you think the recon 1 could cover both a large knife option in a pinch and the smaller detailed work? Generally, I would love to see a video discussing the Cold Steel folder line-up and all the comparisons and uses.
Yes I think the voyager and recon 1 are excellent choices.
@@gideonstactical Thanks!
The folding knife for those times you need to field dress an 18 wheeler.
I will prefer a fixed blade for heavy duty tasks ,any time of the year. For sure is a beast of a knife , folds and rests in your pocket, but i wont replace for my activities my Lionsteel T5, for this bad boy. It makes sense for a constractor to cary and use it also.
Its no longer available by Amazon and other sellers are charging $110.
USA made, Cpm 20cv, titanium hardware and extra more thick stop pin.. Really hope cold steel bring back the original one..
If anyone is curious to see how strong this knife is, go check out the JoeX channel and see this knife conquer it all !
I love my dlttrading exclusive 4max scout in OD green, and DLC blade
Use 3
Quarter's underneath the clip for like 2 or 3 weeks
An interesting knife for sure but I don't see the point for myself personally. It's basically the same size and weight as my fixed blade but with a smaller blade length . I picked up a new pocket knife so I could save weight and still have a real knife.
this is a good one - indestructible - for most common sense uses - it can easily replace a full tang knife - i would like to see how it compares to a BK of similar length
It's only a 4 inch blade, it's not even big
Wow, its take a real expert to find a deal like that. I just ordered one for $40 from Midway USA
In Europe it's being sold for $120-150, which is daylight robbery even considering local taxes. Something's definitely fishy & not right with prices in Europe.
Compared to the Bush Ranger (that is perhaps better for general and food prep and fire-starter) ?
(Although for strapping Firestone every knife could receive an easy modification)
Good stuff Aaron. This knife to me fits what I call 'transitional-zone' of folding knives. I believe you did a good job here with explanations of just that. While to some not all that practical to even marveling, entertaining conversation piece. That said, instead of macho big-knife bragging rights... it has a suitable place in the folding survival/utility genre. I like the handle design and size best of all. The locking mechanism is proven very effective, rugged, and un-likely to fail from reasonable to more demanding conditions. Quite a good deal at $75 PRIME!!! My Ol' Spartan is in my 'transitional zone' I still have a nearly minty condition with box Blackout Rajah II... that I guess is now cool-factor grail-status for Cold Steel Collectors... So I have decided not put any mileage on 'er to devalue it. Are you still 'rockin' a Rajah II? Any longer term mileage & thoughts on it?
The 4 max is the only knife I own no matter how hard you try you just can't get any hint of blade play, side-to-side or vertical. That's one solid folding fixed knife.
I just ordered the ZT 0562ti but next one on my list is this one.
On sale for $49.99 at Midway
For the price, you can’t beat it. Yeah, you can beat it 😅😂
I wouldn't say this dwarfs the ad10... By that metric the Voyager xl dwarfs the 4max
Hi my fellow coloradan. That knife is my work partner and is hard to beat, i had done creative things or rather used it in more improper ways than i can recall (crowbar anyone...) !!!
I am talking about California Law
Greetings from the Czech Republic I want to buy this knife today. It seems to me one of the best of all the folding knives, should I buy it?
It is one big tough blade, the downside is the it’s thick and heavy. The cold Steel AD-10 might be a good option.
I just watched joe X beat the crap out of this knife. It was pretty impressive. I just ordered one. If not for everyday carry definitely for the collection.
I paid $8 for one at a package return store today 😂
I wanted a big folder to go in the ATV storage compartment. Just ordered one from Midway for $50.
Lol my inner kid got a hold of my credit card also ordered cold steel shovel, blowgun, and tote of Peak meals all on sale w free shipping.
Awesome bit of kit,bt if you want big and indestructible check out the extreme ratio rao 2,,great video as always sir.
That's not a knife. (breaks out 4Max) This here's a knife!
My cold steels in the past they have been pretty strong
I have edc’d the Italian 4max in 20 cv steel for a little over 3 years, awesome design and ergonomics. The one downside I would say is I can’t count how many times my pocket clip has snagged and bent