I respectfully disagree…… Melissa auf der Mayr as bassist and James Iha before his departure for a perfect circle was far superior to the Zeitgeist lineup. Machina and the machines of god was the Apex of The Smashing Pumpkins. Every song on featured on that album were perfect. I will say that this track, bleeding the orchid, and doomsday clock were phenomenal but not enough to make the Zeitgeist lineup stand against the 2000s Pumpkins. I’m glad Iha returned…. Really hoping Machina part Two comes soon!
sometimes ithink there's songs musicians dont get their due for because theyve already done so much....this is one of em...this is a great! alt rock song
mainstream music is in such a bad place right now. SP are are on of the only bands out there that makes real music. Even if you don't think this is as good as old SP we still need to support them. And hey Billy is a genius so he will just keep comin out wit better stuff.
YES!!! Thankyou!!! Finally a proper Pumpkins fan. I'm sick of people Whining about the music being about modern situations an without james an darcy. SP4ever! x
yeah, that's true. i don't get people complaining about Jeff not being lively.. because it's not like Iha was. When I saw them in Asheville I thought the new members did fine. (of course I saw them the night Billy coaxed Jeff in to playing with his teeth, lol)
you have got to be kidding me, jimmy isn't a yes man. why would he have to agree with anyone? he's probably one of the greatest drummers in rock now. billy is lucky to have him, not the other way around
thats because on the cd its Billy playing bass, lead, and rhythm guitar. He's also doing backing vocals too. When recording Zeitgeist, Billy didn't have his live crew yet. After the album was recorded he recuited the live crew like on Live Earth. That may be reason why all the songs sound better live off of Zeitgeist.
yep, he quit after the tour. they say billy will continue as smashing pumpkins with all touring musicians. i think its dead now. jimmy's drumming can't be replaced
I don't know if I ever responded to this, but I know all my friends do, but I mean I'm talking about in general. It seems like even the hardcore fans were a little divided though. Anyways, when I posted that comment I don't think I completely understood the way pumpkins had been boxed in by their hits, which I think contributed as well to a general aura of disappointment with Zeitgeist upon its release. I didn't listen to them then, so this is really just based on what I've read since.
thanks alot to you guys for letting me know who were the orignal memebers were. and to PaidYouOff how am i being lazy, i just asking other sp fans a question. though it is my fault that i didnt find them earlier. oh and i bout melion collie and the infinite, one word......awesome
While I understand that viewpoint, and I did see that interview, that interview was filmed before she had talked about her solo album. It is pure speculation to say either way.
Billy will always be stunning and amazing... But i still want to see him play with his original pumpkins members- D'Arcy, Jimmy, and James... I miss "THE SMASHING PUMPKINS"
no, it's not a delonge strat, the delonge strat has only one volume knob. I thought the same thing myself. Corgan's guitar has more than one knob. same color and everything though, i know this because i own one.
SP has made the most important music as far as I'm concerned, but I have always felt that D'Arcy and James just didn't have their hearts in it and were mostly going thru the motions because what else would they have been doing?
Yeah, the network that the TV show is on is the one to take it down.. They want to make money from their shows through advertising - rather than them being given away for free on youtube.
This song is very shoegaze. The droning feedback, the white noise strumming, it's all so beautiful.
This song alone was worth buying Zeitgeist for.
Yup.
And Doomsday clock!
That whole album was insanely good. It's incredibly underrated and honestly maybe my favorite overall Pumpkins album with Siamese Dream.
It sure was...which is why I bought it when it came out
This album was incredible very underrated
Jimmy Chamberlain is a terrific drummer!
This is a stunning song.
I remember being in 9th grade and this was the song that made me find the Smashing Pumpkins. Been in love with them since.
Next to the original lineup, this was the best version of the Pumpkins. Ginger Reyes and Lisa, the keyboardist, kicked ass.
I respectfully disagree…… Melissa auf der Mayr as bassist and James Iha before his departure for a perfect circle was far superior to the Zeitgeist lineup. Machina and the machines of god was the Apex of The Smashing Pumpkins. Every song on featured on that album were perfect. I will say that this track, bleeding the orchid, and doomsday clock were phenomenal but not enough to make the Zeitgeist lineup stand against the 2000s Pumpkins. I’m glad Iha returned…. Really hoping Machina part Two comes soon!
Nicole was definitely the most talented pumpkin bassist on record.
Don't give a shit if a lot of orginal bandmembers left. This band is still awesome. And I love this song. Thnx for uploading.
Those synths are amazing
Probably the best song on the very good new album from the Smashing Pumpkins.
RIGHT!/? I love how he combines hard rock with shoe gaze in this one.
Just saw this play this song live last nite. Absolutely Incredible
Still one of the best Pumpkins song since 2007.
sometimes ithink there's songs musicians dont get their due for because theyve already done so much....this is one of em...this is a great! alt rock song
I love billy corgan!!! This song should have been big!!! its really good!!! i love this song live!!!
aside from the original line up this is in my opinion the second best.
This is what they call a wall of sound approach...
Still hear the MBV influence in them to this day.
I don't know why, but I really find this song moving. More so than "Tonight, Tonight" even...I can't put my finger on it.
Same
Billy Corgan is the best... Good sounds til now. Thank you to the Pumpkins, old and new
I love this song. And I love this performance 🖤
That Is What We Need, That Is What We Love.
Shoegaze for the win.
This song is so good, it reminds me of the feel that Zwan had.
mainstream music is in such a bad place right now. SP are are on of the only bands out there that makes real music. Even if you don't think this is as good as old SP we still need to support them. And hey Billy is a genius so he will just keep comin out wit better stuff.
What do u think of everything they're doing now
Excellent song, one of the greatest.
Feels like home.
Эта песня разорвала мою душу в облаках!
I feel a coming age now
I feel a dawn in me
A certain sun keeps rising
On my belief in you
so beautiful.
Such a great song! Great album!
I love Ginger.
this song is like if _Machina II_ was made by Zwan, or something like that…
that's the best song of this album
Thanks a lot for posting. 5 stars. Great album
i love this song
SP must to come in Brazil...
Thanks for posting the link to the really high quality version! YOU ROCK!!!
Hey man thanks for sharing this (literally)
What a band, what a song
Ginger is the cutest of the 4 bassists!
This is a great song!
YES!!! Thankyou!!! Finally a proper Pumpkins fan. I'm sick of people Whining about the music being about modern situations an without james an darcy.
SP4ever! x
This is great.
I loved Zeitgeist.
my second-best SP lineup.
my favorite song off the album btw
yeah, that's true. i don't get people complaining about Jeff not being lively.. because it's not like Iha was.
When I saw them in Asheville I thought the new members did fine. (of course I saw them the night Billy coaxed Jeff in to playing with his teeth, lol)
Jeff is awesome. So glad he's still in the band.
Love the grungy guitar.
hey adore was friggin awesome
:) this made me sooo happy today
i don't know why people complain about the new members not being lively on stage, thats not what the smashing pumpkins are about.
thanks for posting...
comment on billy for all u want. i still love they way he is and the new pumpkins. as a fan, we should support them and their decisions
nice one billy
you have got to be kidding me, jimmy isn't a yes man. why would he have to agree with anyone? he's probably one of the greatest drummers in rock now. billy is lucky to have him, not the other way around
pumpkins wouldn't be the pumpkins without his voice. its unique and it fit the earlier angst driven songs best
thats because on the cd its Billy playing bass, lead, and rhythm guitar. He's also doing backing vocals too. When recording Zeitgeist, Billy didn't have his live crew yet. After the album was recorded he recuited the live crew like on Live Earth. That may be reason why all the songs sound better live off of Zeitgeist.
goosebumps everytime
wheres the video gone, it was on youtube a while back but can't find it anymore :(... this live version is still awesome though
love the shoegaze vibe, one of Corgan's best
yep, he quit after the tour. they say billy will continue as smashing pumpkins with all touring musicians. i think its dead now. jimmy's drumming can't be replaced
just a soooo great vid thx 4 upload :) greez
I don't know if I ever responded to this, but I know all my friends do, but I mean I'm talking about in general. It seems like even the hardcore fans were a little divided though. Anyways, when I posted that comment I don't think I completely understood the way pumpkins had been boxed in by their hits, which I think contributed as well to a general aura of disappointment with Zeitgeist upon its release. I didn't listen to them then, so this is really just based on what I've read since.
I cried to the Moon. Trist is my Man.
thanks alot to you guys for letting me know who were the orignal memebers were. and to PaidYouOff how am i being lazy, i just asking other sp fans a question. though it is my fault that i didnt find them earlier. oh and i bout melion collie and the infinite, one word......awesome
Well said Zeonoid.
lovely
Love this
great stuff
Ginger Reys the 3 best of bassist for a smashing pumpkins heuejejen
Damn she's hot!
i hate people that complain they should get the band back together, they have been invited back multiple times but they turned billy down each time
While I understand that viewpoint, and I did see that interview, that interview was filmed before she had talked about her solo album. It is pure speculation to say either way.
quality music
underrated song
great song !!!
17 years ago in twelve days..
Great drumming here..
Thats the way he kills I guess
billy is and always will be the pumpkins
Billy will always be stunning and amazing... But i still want to see him play with his original pumpkins members- D'Arcy, Jimmy, and James... I miss "THE SMASHING PUMPKINS"
You've got the right idea.:)
no, it's not a delonge strat, the delonge strat has only one volume knob. I thought the same thing myself. Corgan's guitar has more than one knob. same color and everything though, i know this because i own one.
my fav. from the new album
SP has made the most important music as far as I'm concerned, but I have always felt that D'Arcy and James just didn't have their hearts in it and were mostly going thru the motions because what else would they have been doing?
dangit, i meant to reply to "onthelongview"'s post down there
me too, they were the best
Very good!
its really a dream pop song
my gawd, Ginger looks amazing.
@bearsbearseverywhere
You could say that about a lot their material actually xD These guys are world class.
their current bassist is the hotter one. i love how he replaced darcy and james with nobody look alikes, proving that they could easily be replaced.
This is why billy is my hero
dude, you should've made that question about 20 years ago, because now it seems really normal hah
Alto sonido mágico.
smashing punkins play in sudamerica in december i hope they play in PERU !!!!!
wow....nice performance..and ginger...:D
Yeah, the network that the TV show is on is the one to take it down.. They want to make money from their shows through advertising - rather than them being given away for free on youtube.
i love this song...
i think that´s SP is the same of the past...
BJORK was there in novemeber i hope smashing pumpkins play too in Peru !!!!!
omfg yes finally someone who agrees
oooh on my birthday too!!
Yes, I'm aware of that.
Give Billy and Jimmy some time... they're just getting their groove-thang back... A little more time and we'll see magic.