Who deserves the most credit for Barcelona's turnaround this season? | ESPN FC Extra Time
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- ESPN FC's Jan Aage Fjortoft, Alejandro Moreno and Steve Nicol answer your tweets in Extra Time, including:
0:00 Who deserves the most credit for Barcelona's turnaround this season?
1:50 Is Julian Nagelsmann to Bayern Munich a downgrade for the Bundesliga champion?
2:28 Who does Liverpool miss more on the field: Virgil van Dijk or Jordan Henderson?
4:06 Besides Alan Shearer and Thierry Henry, who else deserves to be inducted into the Premier League Hall of Fame?
6:30 Is it true that the English Championship is a more physically challenging league than the EPL?
8:32 What's with all the ridiculous, Puskas-worthy goals so far in MLS this season?
9:39 Did an animal ever jog onto the pitch while the guys were playing?
14:40 How many pairs of boots did Stevie go through in a season for Liverpool?
17:50 Andrea Pirlo, Antonio Conte or Jan Aage Fjortoft: Who has the best hair?
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Koeman took a squad that had only won one trophy (Even with Messi's greatness) in two seasons, had just been smacked by Bayern 8-2, had no money to spend, and has them on the verge of the Domestic Double, using a formation that no one argued he should use. That man deserves immense credit. No one else of note even wanted anything to do with that job.
.. and he paid 7 mil euros to terminate his own contract with Netherlands NT, tell Barca to pay his salary after their book balance is positive. Talk about loving the club.
This comment deserves a 1m likes, well said, Jules would STILL disagree though
@@marcsugi true Barca legend
@@marcsugi Agreed. And he did it, knowing that there was a good chances that the next President would possibly try to fire him.
You’re setting up Barca as if they’re some mid/lower table team. Barca is one of if not the most recognizable team in the world. They have world class players across the board. Koeman deserves credit for unifying the team but at the end of the day, they’re world class players.
Specifically Messi, Koeman, and Griezmann. They’ve stepped up after a poor start.
And Busquets, never gets the praise he deserves and since the turn of the year, he has been performing and recovered his old form.
Even more specifically tho, messi, messi and messi
Frenkie de Jong deserves more praise
Yeah thats what ale just said? Thanks for repeating
@@jaimonjaison6415 has played the most minutes out of everyone on the squad
dan deservers hall of fame status, this guy makes the whole team on espn so fun to watch.
Yeah he’s good at what he does, hes quick n witty. Makes the show entertaining.
Ale is clear of that fraud.
So true. Way better than sebi
@@cloak-and-dagger9660 Average troll, quit youtube asap!
Hall of Fame for presenters 💯
De Jong is so crucial for our team ❤️, he is the one who makes everyone and everything click, underrated ✨
He's been exceptional in defence and midfield this season
@@dxlvno8386 not as good as ours
@@Kmpjeff you don’t have to compare every player that gets praise to players from your team FFS
@Ødegåård 21 better than bumverde and shitegaard combined
@@Kmpjeff ok busi > rodi freknide jong > gundo kdb > pedro 2 - 1 barca miflied is better
Y'all need to give Ronald Koeman alot of credit, the media has been bashing that man the moment he enter barca door
I don't even like Barcelona but still Fraunold Pooman isn't a better tactical manager than Frank De Boer tbh.
@@cloak-and-dagger9660 get a life
@@cloak-and-dagger9660 boring man again
@@cloak-and-dagger9660 get some creativeity ffs
His own fault.
oscar mingueza is also one of the young one that stepped up very well
Agreed
Mingueza deserves a lot of credit
He’s been slightly inconsistent and we should thank Araujo more than Mingueza
If barca wins league. it's greatest comeback win in La Liga
The whole team deserves credit not just any individual. Apparently they haven't been doing things the easy way but they have come a long way. But Moreno is right Koeman deserves a lot of credit. Am impressed with his 3-5-2 formation
@Ødegåård 21 maldini youth career>>>shit ramos whole career
@Ødegåård 21 RAMOS IS A JOKE OF A DEFENDER,,,,though I will give him credit for heading in corners........and you compare him to arguably the greatest ever defender.....ramos is not even top5.....THE best ever are BECKANBAUR, MALDINI, BARESI
@Ødegåård 21 if Ramos is the best ever defender then Lewandoski is the GOAT.......I hope you understand the comparision.....Ramos is not even top5.....Ramos i guess is top 2 Real madrid defender alongside CANNAVARO....for me defending should not be judged by goalscoring...so Cannavaro is better.
3-3-3-1 Cruyff, closer to 3-4-3 rather than 3-5-2.
@@marcsugi yeah but its never about exact formation ...its about personnel in the team...if we had haaland we would be similar to it I guess
Koeman deserves the most credit cuz he definitely changed the teams mentality for the better💙❤️
2-1🤣
Messi literally leads la liga in goals so my money is on him, plus let's not forget Ter Stegen, he has made some incredible saves
Ter stegen is overrated
@@DawkBrawlin no he isn't, he's made some incredible saves this season
@@ebukaobi2098 nowhere near top 5 keepers this season
That's the worst duo in la liga santander history......
@@DawkBrawlin name the top 5 goal keepers this season then
roy keane deserves to be in the hall of fame...he captained the glorious team to a treble and commanded respect from his peers..so..he deserves it as much as the others
Frenkie de Jong played almost every match for Barca. Messi, De Jong,Pedri,Mingueza and Ter stegen has been consistent performers and are the main reasons for this turnaround.Alba too 🔥
@Änäs Products exactly
Greizmann has been sick too
@Änäs Products I missed Alba too.He is in God mode
@@kevm3569 he is inconsistent.He is improving though
@Änäs Products I don't think he is on Roberto Carlos level,but he is great offensively.More like Marcelo I guess
Bergkamp, Terry, Keane, Rooney, Aguero, Drogba, Lampard, Giggs, Scholes, Ashley Cole, Kampony, David Silva, Eric Cantona, Vidic, Ferdinand, Andy Cole, Yorke, Vieira all legends of Premier league
Steven Gera,Alan Sher., Veira, Michalily
I will say Ronald Koeman, he went through alot from players, bosses and Messi leaving but he never went out to criticise his players
He isn't the best manager in Catalonia as an Espanyol fan.
@@cloak-and-dagger9660 stick to segunda no one invited you to the convo
@Ødegåård 21 Better than Zidane
These guys are funny man especially Steve Nichols
And the more serious he is, the funnier he is.
As soon as Messi turned up the heat and had about 35 goal involvements and is by far the best again .... the others willl be de Jong greizeman and ter stergen ......we must mention pedri mingueza and araujo for not letting us down and doing the best they could for their immaturity ... it was perfect answer by ale
No one is saying De Jong and he has been amazing.
At the end of the day, the right answer is Bartomeu:
- He kept Messi when he battled for freedom and escape.
- He signed Koeman, who nobody said was a great hire
- He got rid of Messi friends, giving more power to the coach and less to Messi and his amigos.
- He signed Pedri
you missed another very important point:
- He resigned
nobody said was a great hire? speak for yourself i wanted Koeman to coach barca for 2 years now and even when he had bad moments this season and all the ''fans'' wanted him out i still said that he needs time and so far it looks like i was right
He’s done far more harm than good. He was the one who initially agreed on Barca joining the super league. He also made terrible financial decisions. He’s made three signings over 100 million and all 3 of them have not been anywhere near worth it. Griezmann and Dembele are both incredibly inconsistent(yes they’ve had relatively good seasons but they’re not worth 100 million) and Coutinho just doesn’t fit in the team at all considering the amount of number 10s Barca already have. Overall, Bartemeou was terrible throughout his tenure.
Can't argue with that, not at all lol
@@tommyvercetti3263
He meant the majority of people. No one cares about your singular opinion so it’s not taken into consideration when discussing the greater population.
Diego Simeone deserves the credit for barca's turnaround
For bottling?
@@crotonemanpenaldo3134 for being better than Fraunold Pooman 💩
@@cloak-and-dagger9660 “Fraudnold Pooman”>>>>>Simeone
Didn't all the teams started with 0 points?
And bilbao. We gave them a trophy they potentially gave us two
They make it the title of the video and only talk about it for 40 seconds. ESPN for you
thats what the extra time segment is
harsh, it’s atleast 42 seconds
I'm sure u can read the part that says" espn fc extra time"
Koeman did great, barca gave him no money and a broken team with alot of drama and he did very well, dude couldn't even get the players he wanted
Messi. . . . . . Period.
Fraunold Pooman
@@cloak-and-dagger9660 Koeman>>>>>>Frank De Boer and Zindine Shitdane
@@cloak-and-dagger9660 Koeman>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all of your favorite managers
@@cloak-and-dagger9660 a
Messi, Griezmann, Busquets, De Jong, Pedri, Mingueza, Koeman, Alba, Ilaix, Dembele, Aroujo.. Everyone contributed towards the resurgence of Barca.
Did ale actually compliment dembele.... the world must be ending
These videos are more enjoyable than I thought they would be
The credit goes to Barca fan's becouse we never stop supporting them ❤️💙 # Forsa Barca
no
Messi had a poor start, Barca had a poor start.
Messi stepped it up, Barca stepped it up.
In other words Messi = Barcelona.
He's still poor💩
@@cloak-and-dagger9660 And you are still finished
@@cloak-and-dagger9660 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@cloak-and-dagger9660 Fernando Lopez is finished
Ronald Koeman does every single time. He’s brought the best we’ve seen from De Jong and Busquets is playing amazing alongside. Yes Messi is phenomenal up top but let’s not forget the orchestrator is Koeman. 3 at the back has been one of the best formations we’ve seen since Luis Enrique’s Barcelona. Just look at the turnaround he’s done for the club. Everyone criticized Koeman and Messi seemed certain to leave. But he turned around everything with the help of Messi Busquets De Jong Pedri Mingueza Araujo and of course Ter Stegen
What he did with Busi and Pedri is so unexpected
@@reaperruss6857 here we thought Koeman was going to sell all the older player like he did with Rakitic Suarez and Vidal. Thought Busquets was surely done but he’s just been getting stronger and more motivated.
I was happy that this was a video about Barcelona and they ended up talking about it only for 20 seconds maybe.
😂
They just want... views
Facts 🤦🏼♂️ 😂
They Once Put Barcelona in the headline & never Onced Mentioned Messi or Barcelona in the Whole Segment.
@@ErickMartinez-nc5jz they clout chasing on Barcelona’s name coz they know that many of their followers are Barcelona’s fans
Koeman griezmann and ofc messi
I think the formation change from koeman was a great start
Worst trio in Catalonia
@Barcelona Golden state legend
@@cloak-and-dagger9660*Best
@@Messi-hl9cw Stop copying other people accounts
I really like these guys! They make me smile 😊
KOEMAN finish he is the difference between previous seasons and now, he brought out the best even in braithwaite
Messi and greizmann finding their form back is main key. De jong in more advanced attacking postion gives opponents big trouble. Also Koeman understood busquets and giving him lot of space which is actually very genius. Koeman deserves lot of credit for rebuilding a dead squad. But i felt like koeman is not the guy for UCL.
Let's be serious, there is a limit that you can do without money. You can't have a team of 19-20 years old kids without any experience and play against big teams like PSG, City etc. Look at Klopp - lost Van Dijk and now the entire team is lost. Same with Bayern - had 2 players missing and they were no match for PSG.
@@danbeloiu7775 yep imagine if it was barca of 3-5 years back with the amount of money they had, a world class striker and defender would put this team among the best in Europe, getting someone like Kounde and halaand just imagine.
@@danbeloiu7775 our team was being destroyed left and right because it was full of 30 year olds. now we have a good mix of experience and young athleticism.
@@TheCelticsAREboss no we don't, Pique is missing often and without him the defense is inexperienced and they always make mistakes plus you don't have a real striker, Griezman is working fine but Dembele is very inconsistent and we have no other real options there. In the same time Koeman is forced to tire out Pedri, an 18 years old at his first season cause there is nobody else to replace him. It was a good mix if he still had Rakitic and Suarez for one more season to rotate players
@@danbeloiu7775 yes it was. we had no athleticism, and liverpool and other teams were faster, more physical, and had more stamina than us. pique needs to go to another team now, busquets shouldn't be a starter, and we should find a better replacement for lenglet although he is good for now. rakatic and suarez were done and didn't belong in a team like barca.
Great questions today 💯
Good show guys!!!
De Jong has to be the most underrated player after listening to people and these pundits, especially considering his contribution and class.
Everyone has been alright up to now but i think messi and the youngsters deserve the credit also credit to the formation charge from koeman.
Defense still a problem in some aspects tho
No credit for koeman for not saving pedri and leaving puig to rot like some peeled banana on the street
Pooman still isn't the best manager in Catalonia in my book tbh
YES PLAY PUIG
and were not blind fanboys....pedri needs REST!! And we have a more than capable midfielder in Puig
@@corban-arch broo there must be some reason that he isn't playing Puig
Every manager has his own thinking and play style and possibly for his plan Puig isn't a good fit
@@aarishansari454 I see what your saying but like, how so...yes he could refine his excess physicality but he's still really good....I get u thou🤞🏼♥️
Messi, Messi and Messi (no other choice)
Pessi Pessi Pessi no other choice.....
Penaldo penaldo penaldo no other choice…
@@crotonemanpenaldo3134 brooo they are taking about Barcelona 😂😂🤣🤣
@@aazwadshomoy381 look at what the tovar dude said
@@cloak-and-dagger9660 ok
Busquets has been able to perform really well since Koeman has started playing 3 in the back since he no longer has to run as far back to defend.
Even these legit Man united haters can’t question our legacy in the premier league
People need to learn to give credit where it's earned without blaming the opposition. It's ignorant to blame Atletico Madrid for Barca's success because in September they all started with zero point and also played the same number of games. Respect to Koeman, messi and entire Barcelona
Remember when I was a teenager meeting loads of Norwegian students. Really nice people and the women are gorgeous
The relevance?
How is this related?
Madrid fan but everyone has played their part. Deserve to be favorites atm
I concur they've played their part in bribing the la liga VAR team. VARcelona fc.......
gl tomorrow 👍
@@goat3282 thx bro good luck to you guys as well
@@cloak-and-dagger9660 stfu. Y’all potentially going trophyless I wouldn’t talk jus yet
@@cloak-and-dagger9660 a
Why is this even a question? Pirlo by far has the best hair.
Honestly For Me Credit To The La Masia Coach... These Kids Are Amazing
You can't begrudge Koeman. When everything goes sour in any club, the first person to get blamed and sacked would be the manager. But when it goes well, the manager should get the credit. Let's not forget, he didn't get a shitload of money to buy new players this season but instead lost Suarez and whole lot of veterans. But then again that may have been a good thing. Messi is of course a big big factor. Koeman's success is basically being able to work with Messi and tinkering with the team to get the best out of him. Changing to three at the back for some games allowed Alba and Dest to freely bomb forward. Pedri and de Jong became important supporting actors for Messi. de Jong had the intelligence, skill, discipline and humility to play anywhere in the field. He even got Dembele to shine where he could shine.
Who is responsible for the turn around? The whole team in my opinion
I’m just waiting the spotify guy to buy us so we can turn up
It's been a team effort and the fact Koeman's change of formation has worked brilliantly. The likes of Alba, Griezmann, De Jong and Mingueza have been top class also. However, Messi's goalscoring form has been the most crucial factor to the turnaround. He got off to a slow start in La Liga this season, scoring just 6 in Barca's first 16 matches, which did play it's part in Barca falling far behind in La Liga, given how they depend on him to score regularly. Since matchday 17 to 32 though he's scored 18 goals, while in that time Barca have won 14 games out of those 16, with him only failing to either score/assist in 3 of those matches. The form he's shown in 2021 has been unreal.
Ryan Giggs, Stevie timing lol.
Always love the homies
Messi has been brilliant in 2021. De Jong is slowly becoming World Class. Busquets is a maestro and legend. Griezman is scoring more. Koeman has made changes which made a difference.
There's extra time and then there's extra extra time once the camera's cut but the guys keep talking
Koeman no doubt since he changed the system Barca is really good and also he promoted young players like Pedri ,Mingueza , Araujo etc and let's not forget he took a Barcelona that were on the ground no trophies last season and made no transfers in the summer ...
All the players 🔥
each and every player and the manager , all deserve credit
Now the team looks good defensively 👍🏻
Realization
"Yes, the EFL Championship is very physical, but the pace of the game of the premier league is what makes it physically harder" -Stevie Nicol 8:21
Well it sounds stupid at first but if you carefully depict this certain phrase word by word vowel by vowel it makes just a tad bit of sense ....matter of fact I’ll be damned this was one of the most iconic and well thought phrases I’ve ever heard
how about everyone on the team
lets be honest those lads are working hard and enjoying football
Griezman scored a brace after 32 matches and is bought into conversion.
This was all Atletico Madrid’s fault!
And Fraunold Pooman's!
And Fraudidine Poodane’s!
@@crotonemanpenaldo3134 that name sucks...try harder and dont embarrass yourself. Take lessons from me
Yes ik if it wasn't for that fraud uefalona would be fighting to stay up in la liga right now
Totally!
All of the team deserve praise but just saying in 2021 last game against villareal antoine's motm was the first for anyone other than Messi
Great craic
To all messi fans. No messi isnt the first not even the second to get the credit for this turnaround. The full credits goes to the youngsters and the team because they simply convinced messi to stay and gave him joy. If messi is happy he is unstoppable. Thats messi personality and probably why all messi fans love him. I dont like this personality because i prefer true leaders but i love his gameplay.
It all makes sense for me now.
Messi More happy= more team succes.
Barca should focus on messis happiness and then he might win ucl...
Frenkie, Busquets, Messi Griezmann but thanks to all club players. Football is beatiful with team playing
Lucky guys I only had ONE (Patrick) lasted for ever. Mind you I never played Pro. 😀😀
Ousmane Dembele. Opened up the whole pitch.
Messi 23 games 23 goals 10.assits only espn fc could ask this question 🤣🤣😍
25 goals
30 matches not 23
@@mksingh1532 in 2021 he is talking of turn around also look behind u hide porto coming
these guys are nuts
Koeman, De Jong, Messi, Busquets and Griezmann for me
Ade To Var is a finished account in my book of facts
@@m.a.a1382 What happened to him really?
Messi, Griezmann in the right position and also rotating well with Messi and than I will give it up for Ronald Koeman
Tbh our whole team. Its been years we hv relied on leo. This season many players have stepped up credit goes to koeman.
Jan wished he got the digits 😂
Remember not long ago people were putting the boot into Koeman saying he was a puppet, they were saying Barcelona would finish mid table, and apparently Messi was off to Man City....football's a crazy game sometimes.
He means Riedewald lol
Atletico madrid for letting a generous lead slip
Discusses about barça for literally 10 sec.lets put barcelona on the thumbnail coz why not 💀💀💀
I think messi , de jong and pedri did awsome this seoson
Ter Stegen, Jordi Alba, Lenglet, Araujo, Mingueza, Dest, Busquets, Pedri, Dejong, Dembele, Griezmann, Messi,........, Koeman
Stevie 💯%. Good opening...
Messi, frenkie, Koeman, griezmann, busquets, Pedri, alba, Piqué, Ter stegen. They do IT together
Mingueza, Araujo, Messi, Greiz, Dest, de Jong, among others.
If u have been watching barca full games for the the season you could kind of tell they were always going to get better, it’s the plastic fans and espn fc critics that are suprised with the turn around
Ale went through 12 pai of elbow pads, from all the dives.
I think Wayne Rooney or Ryan Giggs (stats speak for it self for the PLHF-premier league hall of fame)
An unbiased Liverpool supporter
Its all about how its refereed which makes it more physical which is the same reason the enlish top flight is more physical than rest of Europe's top leagues
Pedri, Messi, De Jong and Ter Stegan. Stand out stars. ⚽️
Koeman changed the mentality of the team and they also play some beautiful football compared to the football they played with Valverde and Setien
Bartemou firing and Koeman’s experience without signing of experienced players
Considering that Man Utd won the most EPL titles, it would be surprising if the next inductees would not include a MU player. I would pick Roy Keane over Giggs or Cantona or even Rooney because I believe it was his drive for perfection and success that was the real foundation for MU's perennial title wins. However I would not argue if it was Schmeichel (Peter, I mean) Without doubt, the two best goalkeepers in EPL history is Schmeichel and Cech.
Actually the whole squad aside from Lenglet and Umtiti
How did WENGER and SIR ALEX miss out ???
Guess it ain’t for managers
Busquets, Messi, Alba and Mingueza
Martin Braithwaite also deserves credit
Messi , de Jong , Griezmaan and Busquests
Jan be trolling at 10.30
Messi, griezman n Dembele and the chemistry with the youth
So basically Koeman
Ter Stegen and Messi, all I got to say.
Aye shoutout VMI and Virginia, USA