Lionel Messi is right to be upset about Barcelona's handling of Luis Suarez - Laurens | ESPN FC
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- ESPN FC's Julien Laurens and Alejandro Moreno share their thoughts on Lionel Messi's social media farewell message to Luis Suarez where the Barcelona legend took yet another dig at his club. Laurens says he's not surprised by Messi's comments as he has been targeting Barcelona's front office all summer long. Moreno adds everything that involves player management for Barcelona has been handled poorly.
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When they sold Ronaldinho, Laporta went personally to his house to tell him he wasn't going to continue at Barca. Their current treatment of players is horrible. Bartomeu is a disgrace
Ronaldinho deserved that
Ronaldinho was a party animal at the end of time at Barcelona. He somewhat got it coming.
How about Eto'o and Zlatan?
Laporta stayed for 2 more years after Ronaldinho though
@@antares9973 Eto'o deserved better. Zlatan was there for only 1 year and didn't fit at the club no send-off needed.
People talk about Messi having power in Barcelona but he's the same man being held hostage in the club.
So what does this mean? People should stop saying he has power at Barca?
@@gazaballa10 Yess they should coz he clearly doesn't. Then man is just a club captain that's it. He has no control over who comes and goes.
@@thabisotumisang he has power ,he was just too stupid to read his contract .He most likely chose to make more money in exchange for an extra clause that would make it almost impossible to buy him
Messi was right, the contract said "end of season"
He just didn't wanted to go to court
@@whatudoin1 bro actually STFU. you are literally embarrassing yourself. No body has something written in their contract that says "your allowed to have power over the club" and really are you dumb haven't you read the news at all even man city were preparing his wages he was clear on his stance of leaving " he most likely chose to make more money" there many clubs out there who could give them much more money ill give you examples so you don't cry later "no club will pay him": PSG, Real Madrid, Manchester United , Manchester City and Inter milan, Dont forget also clubs that are out of Europe. Don't say something "which are apparently are facts according to you , who is btw delusional) without any back bone (if you're are too dumb to understand that phrase it means: where's your proof bro) ;D Have a nice day you fool
I'm not surprise if Messi scores own goal vs atletico and celebrate with Suarez lol
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😂😂😂 u crazy
Luis is in a better place
Lol this doesn't sound really right bud.
@@gaoru correction :he's a good guy in a better place whilst the snakes roam in the wrong place
Heaven?
To a dentist?
I lolled
Didn't Bartomeu say that if Messi returned, he would step down?
Yes this is exactly what pisses me off
I guess he lied!
he didn't say, the "sources" said, basically paid media by barto , then he can always turn back on it as he never officially said it
He need to go
No he didn't say that, you are misrepresenting what he said. He said if Messi stayed and came out to say he the president was the problem he would step down...Messi didn't say the president was the problem...it was the president who made him stay...basically putting him in his place...the guy is a footballer not a board member it's not the clubs job to keep Messi happy
They're getting rid of every old player except the one that wants to leave
Pique wanted to leave too... Not just Messi
exactly...what a disgrace
It's sad to know the only reason messi still respects the club is because of there history
It is business, not personal..get over it guys!
@@wysefavor Well when messi leaves they will have to "get over it" too.
When messi retires, netflix should make a documentry about this saga
Exactly!!!
The fact that Suarez scored 16 goals in 28 games in la Liga is mental. That’s almost equivalent the Harry Kane last year
With the direct football that Atletico play, Suarez is gonna be lethal in goal. Barcelona made a bad move in selling him
@@shanansagar ya exactly he is a bargain for a free transfer such a bad decision by us
@@shanansagar
U think long ball and direct football for Suarez game. The guy can hardly run.
For real, just goes to show you how spectacular Harry Kane is playing against better defenders in a stronger league with a mid table team.
@Shreyash Nath Premier League is tough m8 it's more physical and it's more competitive.
I can't imagine how messi is going to play this season
He CLEARLY has shown how he feels
Guess he'll just run this year out
@Ryan Navas it's up to coutinho, trincao, fati, dejong and griezmann to help Barcelona because messi is of no use to them
run this year out ? he's been doin that for the past 5 years lol
@@edsonmawalla4203 bruh what
He will treat this as an extended preseason of for man city
@@edsonmawalla4203it is up to all the players you have mention but at the end Messi will come up with the most goals and assists for the club😂😂
Imagine if Suarez helps Atletico to beat Barcelona.
Oh he will ..
If he stays fit he might even score more goals then previous years
Just like david villa... knocking barca out
As a Barca fan... I wish that he scores
@Qasim Hussain I don't hate Barca.. I just hate the board and the coach... they've been making mistakes ever since they let go of Neymar.. clearly if u fail to see that you're not a Barca fan.. or u don't know how it feels what the players are going through.. esp Messi
@@clarkbrayan7216 true
FREE MESSI !
😂
AS NV he is begging to leave 😂
luis _ hey you are being kinder now 🤙🏽🤙🏽⚽️⚽️
FREE Lingard
Facts
I hope Neymar’s comments ends any speculation of him going back smh
He sued the club after leaving for missing some bonuses or something. They were not going to bring him back after that.
You and me both
Suarez cared about the club so much you could tell and thats rare in football.Meanwhile they have Martin Braithwaite who has played 11 times and scored 1 goal Lol
😅😅😅😂😂🤭 you can say that again my friend..
Kyte Shelly yeah the Braithwaite signing sums up the (lack of) direction of this Barca administration. It's sad honestly
Ben Matheson there were reports that he (Brathwaite) wanted to wear the Number 10 shirt if Messi left and they told him that he would leave before Messi did 😂
Yeah more like Suarez cared so much about that 15 million salary he get at Barcelona. Now he get millions at ATM
@@hamzasat i dont think money is the main motivation he could have gone Inter miami or china for more
Suarez has to leave accept it but how they treated his departure was a disgrace
IronKnight117 - what treatment?
Hey Ron, Ronald, Ronnie, Ronnie man , Ronron🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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what?? i dont get it
@@thatboym1103 watch the video and you will get it
😂😂😂😂😂 this should be in B/R the champions cartoon!!!
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6:02 for anyone who is confused and doesn't want to watch the whole video. And just to let you know, it has got nothing to do with Cristiano. 😜😂😂
Barcelona changed the moment they put that Rakuten logo on their jersey. "More than a club" is now "just another club"
Also the year neymar left, and Enrique left to be repleaced by Ernesto
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@PoonkAmi The Rakuten change coincided with other more commercially-inclined decisions over on-pitch performances. They were still winning with Qatar Airways on the front, even if I didn't like the change from UNICEF/Qatar Foundation. Ever since then, Barcelona started acting more and more like Real Madrid of the 2000s.
Free Bartomeu's wife ... someone definitely has her hostage! ... 😕
Lol
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good she deserves it for being married to that clown
Terry !! Not again
Not appropriate to make it personal and bring his family into this.
Neymar was ahead of his time and took so much backlash for leaving Barca
the same with samuel etoo they dished him as if he was nothing
Yep and he was close to Suarez at that time scoring goals for fun.
@@phistoltv5196 they no longer give respect to the game.its all about money
nope, pep wanted to get rid of eto, ronaldinho and deco but laporta decide to keep eto for 1 more season
@@jackpotter3234 well you can't say that about Suarez. Its blindsided saying he only cares about money.
2nd after FREE MESSI
😂 Free messi deserves to be 1st
If Suarez was Dutch Koeman would’ve wanted to keep him... he’s so biased towards Dutch players I stg
He was just the national coach so it makes sense. What would concern me if I was a Barcelona fan was that the last club he was at Everton. He spent a record amount of money £150 million for them in one season and had Everton down in relegation zone before he was kicked out.
Koeman beat the germans(basically bayern) with memphis, wijnaldum and de jong in a 4-2-3-1! Frenkie did the same with ajax in a double pivot vs bayern! Suarez had a record of not scoring in the ucl away games for 4yrs! It was his time at least 2 years ago! Pep did the same to zlatan and eto’o! These players have become lazy and have too much power! I would’ve replaced pique, alba, rakitic, suarez, busquets 2 or 3 years ago!
@@bynahelemaal just 4 bayern players were playing in that german team so what are you on about
bynahelemaal pep did that with eto and eto came back won the treble with inter Milan and beat Barca in the ucl so I don’t think that worked out so well for him lol
victor lataj true, but if I remember correctly there was an offside goal from inter involved in that game and an disallowed goal bc of a supposed handball, which hit the stomach... and barca didn’t do too bad in 2011 vs united either!
Barcelona has not even started the season and Ronald Koeman is starting to be the most hated coach in the history of FC Barcelona.. Dont know what are the plans he has but they better work otherwise he will have the shortest managerial career ever..
He wants to play like the dutch squad and ajax played... in other words more like bayern!!! However without the depth that for example memphis and wijnaldum provided for him, it’s probably not gonna work!
@@bynahelemaal koeman's system needs people who will show intensity and as such needs younger people. However he is missing full backs which is why he is pushing for the signing of dest. Whether it will work will depend on how well the team adjusts to his tactic and since suarez is slow and rarely presses he would have been a problem
I don't blame Koemen so much as Barto.
Clearly Messi is FORCED to stay.
Free Messi to Man City
In the future big names will think twice joining Barcelona.
I think Messi might retire after this season
that is what you wish and that will never happen because the board is leaving..so that talk is rubbish
@@curtischarles5299 bruh either Messi retires or he's joining city, like the only way he stays is if Barca actually have a good season
@@jinsimpfor2878 honestly i want messi to leave next season. barca need to move on. he has become a problem as far as i see.
@@curtischarles5299 Messi is the only reason you aren't a midtable club🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Awful how they forced Suarez out. He's been brilliant for them. Bartomeu is a disgrace. He should be the one kicked out not Suarez.
Look the way Barcelona removed suarez was a disgrace but let's be honest suarez is finished now. I can literally name five strikers better than suarez right now and haaland is one of them. As for messi speaking up why is he only speaking about suarez and not puig maybe its because suarez is his friend but the point is I don't think messi is bieng rational right now and to be honest he is turning 34 years old so he is also in the decline it's clear he has lost any power he once had and he is lucky he is in Barcelona because in real madrid we would have never tolerated such behaviour from one of our players.
@@edsonmawalla4203 when u say hes finished do u mean he is completely useless . U let suarez go on a free to a rival is he really that useless imo he can offer a lot I'd hate to face him .
@@edsonmawalla4203 you wrote all that... Just for it to be bullshit
Edson Mawalla you're legitimately an unintelligent human being... Never comment on this sport again
Suarez is a legend best striker last 10 years
Robert Lewandowski!
@@cloudxz92 sorry prime Suarez was something else bro
@@sjeditzandfootballreviews6297
Not really. ^^
Lewandowski destroyed already Bayern and Real in Dortmund with 3 or 4 Goals. In the Champions Lesgue he has 68 Goals and is on 4th Place while Suarez has 26 Goals and is on 33th.
@@cloudxz92 suarez is far better lewandowski plays in bundeliga and never score 40 goals
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Again: Lewandowski has more then doppel as much Goals in the CL. And he diden't have Messi around him.
Barca, Messi gonna torment you all season ..... Free Messi..
While the players are loyal to the club, the club isn't loyal to its players and its disgusting to watch.
Started with Ronaldo in the 90s.
What Barcelona did to Messi and Suarez is going to haunt them. We will see a reduction in future world class players opting for Barcelona.
Great content
Jules and Ale's analysis and points were quite 👍 🦸♂️
This is how to they treated Dani Alves and Neymar it's just shameful
Ale is a very funny guy 🤣. The part he says hey Ron, Ronny , ronnyman , Ron Ron 🤣 6:00
That's why Neymar leaved Barcelona,he said "the president is SH*t"
Lol that is not why he left
But then again if history as taught us anything, Brazilian players always want more
"Donkey" was the word he used😂
And barrca fan laughed at him .. who is laughing now😂😂
@@binod6766 who laughed at him what
Messi looking at Griezmann wearing the new No9 😒
That’s not going to sit well with him
griezmann prefers 7 anyway. maybe fati will wear 9 in a few years
Griezmann wears the number 7
You guys he means the no9 position
I don’t mind a manager coming in and making big changes pep did that at man city but ... what has Koeman done as a manager to be able to do that . People keep saying the Dutch team what did he do he was barely there no major tournaments and Everton was a disaster and so was his last time in la liga . Other than being an elite player for the club man idk. If you watched Everton like I did and now seeing ancelotti with Everton 2 different levels of managers Koeman is still and experiment an Ancelotti type you know he’s accomplished so much and been everywhere this is a big gamble
You seem to forget, how bad Ancelotti was at Bayern
One by one.. all the main players will be gone. The real fear should be, is Barcelona going to compete or win the La Liga again? Even when Messi is gone. I grew up always, & I'm sure many English Supporting club fans always feared to play Barcelona. They'll definitely loose that fear factor about them too.
All because of messi and surez in the bryan game surez was the only barca player to score and messi was creating chances Griezmann isnt as good as surez barca have done the wrong here surez Diego costa and Joel Felix will be dominate all barca has now is mess pique and ter Stegen and all 3 of them are not happy so you know where this is going
how the heck could i be a fan of barca for so many years!!!
what a disrespectful club...
what an unprofessional action they do...
what an insult against a player like suarez..
and nobody from the club-history can t say stop?!
this club and even their history doesn t deserve my respect anymore!!!
It is a joke club. I loved some barca teams in the past but they have been floating on individual talent far too long. The way they kept Messi as a hostage and kicked out others is atrocious
very mature to disrespect a clubs history because of the mistakes of the current board...
Exactly that force on ruiqi puig is shocking!!! He’s the one who stepped up for the team in midfield these board members are psychopaths
I don't know whts koman plan is ? 😆 by not giving chance for the players like tadiboo ,puig ..
If Ronaldo said that then you would call him "arrogant" and "disrespectful"...
Not at all look at the context mate. He has no reason to say any of this whereas Messi has been absurd and mistreated for years now so he has every right to complain
No he would use his sister's account to vent out his insecurities😂
Juventus doesn't have anywhere remotely close to the kind of boardroom disaster that Barcelona does. Completely different context
@@cam-captured747 says a guy who think Ronaldo is better than Messi😂
@@oscarj_1082 Ronaldo was treated unfairly in his last season bro, particularly when he left, he had a falling out with the board and they only gave him a 4 minute video on TH-cam. The greatest player in their history was underappreciated at the end which in my opinion should've been the other way around. It wasn't as bad and disrespectful as Barcelona did with Suarez but you get the point. Yet Ronaldo is very professional and he left with his head up high even after they underappreciated him. That's my opinion in regards to the original comment.
Some times you have to be like in this situation to succeed
blows me away how poorly a club can be run! they are clueless how damaging they are to their own players, the atmosphere in the dressing room and in general the barcelona brand. If your a player wanting to join barca right now; your in it for the money or you have an iq of 5.
Not that long ago i thought of barca being a more friendly/family like inviting club than real madrid but it's flipped now
How can u treat a club legend like this i dunno any more
Moderator is so much better than the other guy... plus no Sid Lowe, cant get better
What about Semedo ???
He was given all that was respectful since the defeat at Roma to redeem himself
It would be funny if Koeman loses a lot of games and won’t be in plans in 2 months time 😂
MSN and BBC will forever be two of the greatest trio in sports history. It really is sad to see that era gone. I just think that the way both clubs have handled their players leaving has been less than ideal. I do understand the Bale situation but the RM fans had no right to make him the scapegoat for so many years. Barcelona have just been a shambles in terms of handling their transactions.
I really don't understand why they ran Suarez out. It makes no sense. Suarez is an idiot, but a brilliant player.
He doesn't run anymore but he is useful if he shares games with another forward, the problem is the money he gets from Barca is no longer justified and can be used for another top player.
Barca could have used him as a sub if he had taken a wage cut.
@@edd0f
Very good analysis
Barcelona is doomed I am so Happy 😀
When a player is willing to be a bench player shows you how much he loves that club. What a sub selection to call on to the field!
So how long does Koeman last?
I really wanted to feel for Luis especially after his tears at the press conference but the way he celebrated after scoring against Liverpool in UCL two seasons ago, it was atrocious and disrespectful. And now, the team has kicked him out which he played, celebrated and scored (I've no problem with scoring though) against the team which literally made him the star and made his previous team to look for him. Assuming all are leaving at some point, imagine Salah, Mane or Bobby celebrating against Liverpool if they score against them. Well, life comes back in full circle and Suarez's last appearance will always be remembered as one of the biggest bashing and Manhandling in Barcelona's history.
Its not just the board. You should see how most Barca fans talk about him.
When the rumours first broke out, I kept wondering is Luis Suarez now that bad!!!. Luis in his current form is still one of the best strikers in the world.i can see him scoring a lot of goals for Athletico.
Luis Suarez ( champions leagues)
Six seasons in barça : 25 goals
Lewandovsky ( champions leagues)
Six seasons in bayern : 52 goals
Lol
Everything about the club is effed up honestly ..
Whether it's the ego of the players
Club de Amigos
The Board
The coach
Everything is effed up
Ever since Bartomeu became president they treat their players disrespectful. Former Players like Dani Alves for example complained about it when he had to leave. Now recently with Puig, Arthur and Suarez...
How do people know there wasn't a private phone call or letter?
This isn't the barca i fell in love with back in the days of romario...stoichkov..xavi...eto'o. I go to the games but things that are been going on at the club leaves a bad taste in the mouth.
Ron Ron,Ron man 😂😂😂😂 I love that guy
People have to understand that these players are getting old and the club no matter how good it is have to rebuild but still understandable that these players have to be super cared for because of the titles they brought to the club
Bruh nothing to do with it they're buying old as well
Why would Bartomeu care about making Messi happy ? He also knows that he’s leaving at the end of the season.
Love this. The world of sports and football the clubs and directors and people up top don’t care about the players. No matter what they have done. If you start to mess up they’ll kick you out. That’s why I’m all for players being selfish and about themselves because teams simply don’t care. Doesnt matter who you are.
Come on Sevilla. It is time for you to step up. The way Sevilla played against Bayern was noteworthy. Put the same fight in La Liga to win title. At the moment Barcelona and Real Madrid are in mess. Especially Barcelona is totally mess, unable to take right decision and it is going to be hard for them to win title with so-called disrespectful koeman who won nothing but sacked by Everton.
It shows that giant clubs in spain 🇪🇸 with the likes of Real Madrid and barca hv shown hw they treat their legends they r destroying their legacy as compare to this things in England🏴and Italy 🇮🇹 r far better they know how to respect their legends they love n respect them and give them proper farewell they wana build legacy for future generations to get inspired
Suarez was overshadowed by messi at barca...we knw suarez well and his ability to score goals..now he's in perfect place👍
Abilities to score what?
2017& 2018 : 2 goals in 20 champions leagues 'games..
In addition, in barça we don't need just scorer but a striker who can play football as well
They have meekly allowed one player to somewhat dictate or influence the biggest club in the world . No one single player is bigger than any club . Wasn't previous manager was of his choosing ? To allow one player to dictate that is contradictory to all club principles all over the world and yet ....
How long did he last, anyway?
they get rid of someone who scored important goals in crucial times yet decide let him leave and keep greizman.. like rly what has greizman done better then suarez in any competition?!? mindset of barca..
Suarez is 33. Griezmen is 29. And he is still a quality player.
They love to keep la masia players. If you all check, they don’t really get rid of home grown players and lose others. What about Roberto, pique, Alba? They are quicker to get rid of others and slow with la maisa players
Compare Ronaldo and Messi on how they handled their transfers
Let's talk about griezmann performance against Villarreal
No he is not he is an employee. Suarez should have left after 8-2 thrashing but still wanted to stay
What is Koeman thinking😂
Whats going on at barca
I don't want to see a loss this year yet..@ Camp Nou.. but?..if that happens.. who will take the blame? Koeman?..Barto..?remember Ter Stegen is out ..for a while.. weak defense..started last year yet..
are you crazy this is the way it happens in every club or do you think in madrid they gif gareth bale flowers when he left !!!!!!
Koeman has been a complete disappointment. For a man with very little big-time managerial success, he certainly doesn’t lack for opinions. It’s no surprise in one sense, but his precipitous decision-making with these players has surely alienated key people already. One would hope he would proceed with due care.
Nope.
All this is good news for CiTY fans !!!
Can't wait for January to come sooner !!!!!
Why didn't he leave 2 years ago, last year ? Barca was getting humiliated in the cl for last 3 years so they had to FIRE him
This board clearly doesn't know what they're doing what if griezman doesn't perform what if he gets injured who's going to take that spot who's your backup they don't have anybody...
Koeman says.. puig needs more playing time that's why sending him on the loan is better idea..they don't want to sell him....2hat are you guys talking 🤣🤣🤣
How Manchester city treated yaya Toure?
I love ale moreno with him comment
If the news are correct that the directors are considering 2 players that are 34 years old to replace Suarez then is a good example that the players are correct and the board inept.
Messi’s greatness will be confirmed again in the new year
I would be surprised if Messi stays after this season is over, this statement practically says it all
Remember the treatment for Ronaldinho and Eto'o. Its not a surprising way of doing for Barcelona.
Dan thomas and ale Moreno are still my favourite
Just treat him like Xavi and Iniesta...
Barca gets rid of players
espn : nothing
Messi : i´ m mad
Espn : Messi is right ,you don´t do that to Suarez
i have no love for that board but the players seem to have too much power. The players have shared how they feel about the people in charge so why do they expect a red carpet .Suarez went to a rival,that´s a sign of respect ,they could have forced him to pick a lower team or a team from another country
enough whining
Like Messi always talk about the club needs to change, but he doesn’t want any of his old friends to leave. Luis was on huge wages, didn’t defend/press, can no longer run, and it’s a shame he’s leaving?
@@DeMar0805 If Luis is that bad why are you trying to block his departure to other clubs. Why did Juve,Atleti and others want him. If he is as bad as you say?
Mister Vlad both Juve and Atlético play 2 up top, so he wouldn’t have to do as much as he would being the lone striker.
He went to a rival after it appeared in the press that he was not allowed to go to certain clubs. So first you want him to go but don't pay him, then he canot leave for free, then you reach an agreement and then you realize he may be good enough to emabarass you in the direct match. How are you trying to force him to choose a team that he wants when he still has a one year contract that you don't want to pay and it clearly won't end in a mutual agreement. You have absolutely no logic. One player shared his feeling about the people in charge, the club captain and arguably the best player in the club's history. Maybe he has the right to do that after almost 20 years in?
Mister Vlad the club needs to change if they want to be relevant in 4 years. They have the highest wage bill in the world, with 0 trophies last year to show for it. The club is getting old and slow that’s why they got ran off the park against Bayern.
Man that farewell press conference was cringe inducing and physically painful to watch..Hope he shows them ...
I thought my club was run badly......
I have been a fan of Barca for a long time now, but how they have gone on about their business lately has been a complete disgrace, Their new motto should be "Much less than a club" cause that's what it has become, and not for nothing here, yes Suarez' level has fallen over the last few years, but he's been playing through and with knee pain, he has just only recovered from knee surgery, and he had only gotten a few games under his belt before the end of their season, but if you ask me in the few games he did play in he was moving much better, I wonder if he continues to recover and plays completely pain-free what he's going to accomplish this year at Athletico? It's gonna be interesting.
It's safe to say that contract is not getting renewed
Jules: you don't treat the club this way..
Also Jules: Gareth Bale can be treated the way the club want... player don't have a say lol.
Whilst the treatment of suarez is poor !! The barca board needed to reduce the wages at the club. how much money have they saved by selling the players they have this window
Ali "hey hey ron ron" moreno
This is certainly either the board or the presidents way to be petty. After everything that happend with Messi saying "okay I've had enough, I'm out" this almost feels like a parent telling they can't hangout with his friends because he is grounded
Riqui.....
can you imagine if sergei roberto or something did this😂😂
remember how Dani ALves left ?
Luis Suarez getting upset when he was told to clear his desk is a bit rich! Perhaps Bartomeu should have invited him into his office, and bit him on the neck, like he did twice in his club career to when he wanted to force a move!
As for Puig, if Keoman plays a system that doesn't fit Puig, he is better off going out on loan, get games, and experience and then comeback when Xavi is appointed a better player. Would Ale prefer the board to tell Koeman, no no no you have to play this kid, he's our future? Koeman is the coach, he picks the team, not the board and not Bartomeu!