iLoud MTM Monitors From IK - Hands On First Impressions
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- IK Multimedia MTM Monitors - Hands On First Impressions
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iLoud MTM release date - Releasing early June 2019
High-resolution compact studio monitor
Your music as you’ve never heard before
IK’s iLoud Micro Monitors stunned an industry. Producers and engineers at every level marveled at the performance coming from such a small setup, so IK challenged our team to push its concept even further - to design a new compact speaker to rival 5”, 6” and even 8” monitors.
The result is iLoud MTM, and it changes everything about the sound, accuracy and convenience of reference monitors in today’s modern studio.
Once you hear iLoud MTM, you’ll find it hard to ever go back to traditional big-box speakers.
Reference-class, ultra-linear response
The first job of any studio monitor is to deliver accurate, uncolored sound so you can trust your mixing decisions will translate across multiple playback systems. iLoud MTM uses the most advanced DSP techniques to provide total control over the speakers’ performance, delivering results simply not obtainable with traditional analog designs.
Highs are neutral and defined, mids are clear and balanced, and lows are as balanced as ever. You can mix for hours with no ear fatigue, and the work you create will translate better than ever. And of course it’s loud, with 100W RMS total power per speaker and 103dB SPL maximum sound pressure, delivering the proven volume the iLoud brand is known for.
Extended low-end to rival larger systems
iLoud Micro Monitor wowed the world with the bass performance it delivered from a 3” speaker that “defied physics”. But iLoud MTM offers even more, with even bass response down to an astonishing 40Hz ideal for modern music styles.
iLoud MTM debuts IK’s new patent-pending Physical Response Linearization (PRL™) system, that uses a precise model of the enclosure’s design, construction and materials, combined with electro-mechanical measurements of the real units, to correct the system’s performance in real time. The result is a stunningly “firm,” balanced and defined low end, to surpass the sound of speakers even twice iLoud MTM’s size.
Deep bass is solid and firm - you won’t believe sound like this comes from a monitor so small.
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Thanks for the video! Very useful and informative! Got my ears / eyes on these for sure!
I'm curious to know if these would work in a 5.1 setup with ARC working being used too, or if ARC only works in stereo.
ARC only works In stereo. However when I talked with the devs of these new MTM monitors with built in ARC they are looking at 5.1 with them.
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@@Unders Awesome news! thank you for keeping us up to date and all the information you've given! :D
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@@Unders Yes, BMI affiliates used to always tell me to start my own firm & I'm finally trying to do something on my own. I still advise some of the BMI affiliates I used to work with at BMI, just trying to help more people now!
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@@Unders yesss, we shall see!
Nice accurate review! Thanks!
Thank for watching, glad it was helpful
These have been out for a while now, did you end up getting them? If so what are your thoughts using them in the real world environment of your studio compared to other monitors you're using?
Any good to use with a digital piano? Basically they are clearly flat and analytical, but does that mean they're enjoyable to listen to also? Or just speakers for mixing tracks only? Thanks
Not speakers I would buy for just enjoyable listening. They suffer at pumped up levels. But as tools for working, Great.
I want to know the difference between mtm and mm sound
Are these speakers connected to each other with an ethernet cable or any other cable?? Reason I am asking is how would the dsp know which which speaker is left or right?? Or do you have to run the ARC system in the computer in order to complete the calibration? BTW thank you for the excellent review!
ARC is built into the monitors.
Just picked up a pair of these I love the calibration.. try them they will change the way you think about small monitors.. I bought rocket G4 5's at the same time and I didn't like the hissing and lack of power, I kept these even though they are double the price of the krk's. I'm going to give them a serious chance and if they don't work I'm going to get something else.. so far they're absolutely amazing
Glad to hear it 🙏 thanks for sharing.
Thinking between rokit 5 g4 and these one as well... Not sure do I really need more expensive monitors not for music but for video production. Rokit 5 was so bad?
@@SafriFam I don't know what generation they were but I A/B'd Rokits vs Genelec 8020 back in 2006 and I could hear why the Genelecs cost twice the price of the Rokits. I still swear by my 8020 in my main studio and my 8010 in my second studio location.
Does this speaker has any kind of "Servo" technology? Active servo woofer of some kind? (It's a closed loop feedback technology to improve response of the drivers)
Servo systems are important in large woofers not something of this size. So no.
Unders thanks for the awesome intro video to MTMs. Quick question. Imagine you live in Tokyo, in a 40m2 apartment. And you want to get most out of that 1,2 m x 2,2m walk in closet with a tiny table space of 90cm W to 50cm Depth. Budget is not an issue, and priority is using that space in the best way. Would you pick MTM or MM? Thanks a lot in advance!
If price really isn’t an issue. Got with the 8341a from Genelec
Otherwise the MTM for the room correction too they offer. For the price there’s nothing as versatile. Those genelec ones are incredible though, but very expensive
@@Unders Thank you very much! Yeah Genelecs are a wonderful but a huge stretch. Will keep an eye on MTMs. Cheers from Tokyo.
Hi there and thanks for the video. I have just had a pair of these and think they sound amazing apart from the rattling coming from the rear ports just like in the vid @ 12:00. I have to disagree that this is microphone overload as that rattling sound is not distortion, its more flappy/rattle and is also highlighted by the rep stating that the rattling sound is because they are unfinished prototypes. However mine sound exactly the same. I'm beginning to think that these monitors aren't all that great for bass music but I'm still trying to tell myself otherwise and work with them. I'm going to have to go to a store to test some other monitors out I think. I've calibrated them however I can't hear much of a difference when I switch between Cal, Flat and Desk. They are definitely great sounding and sound very clear and accurate, just a shame about them farting from the rear.
So we 100% overloaded the microphone, I had to fix the audio. Thats unfortunate about the port noise (i'm still yet to get my personal set of MTM btw) when mixing bass heavy parts is the issue still there at medium to low levels?
@@Unders I tested again today and used Zero T's Divisions track as a reference where still after turning down quite low I can hear the port noise from the optimum listening position. I'm monitoring at around 89dB(C) SPL however I can still hear it at around 85dB. I'm working with support to see if my units are faulty or not.
Gonna buy these, period!
Same, just waiting on an official date.
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m8, how usable are these for drum and bass vs a 8 inch woofer likea yamaha hs8 , can they really be equivalent to design those lower ends kicks and basses? I have my doubts, might as well get something bigger no? I have my eye on the focal alpha 65's, same price, but they seem to reveal a crazy amt of distortion vs other brands.
In the end get what’s right for you.
But to answer the question yes, size in this case equals loudness, now I had these up less than halfway and it’s plenty loud in fact it clipped our mic so it’s not in the video.
However if you have a large room or a far back listening space then a larger monitor (might) serve better.
I actually mixed the last couple singles on only the even smaller iLouds an am happy with the results
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@@Unders yea it depends on your style if you highpass all yout stuff you probably wont have problems but thats not my style, it sucks you have to pay so much more to get that few hz lower. im dying to see the MTMs vs 6.5-8inchers in action(mainly the yamaha hs8), damn IK Multimedia hurry up, im hyped.
Be sure to sit in posistion when you calibrate - as this will affect the calibration :-)
Objectively, do you think it's competitive compared to 6.5, 7 and 8 inch speakers?
Yes with the double mid driver absolutely. They are actually better balanced lower down then my 8' monitors.
I forget if we discussed it on video but its also possible to run a sub directly with these too if needed. I personally feel 99.9% of home set ups do not need a sub but the option is there.
Are you referring to the Ones when you say the "Phantom centre" reminded you of Genelecs?
Sound in general is very “genelec” which is great for the price point. And referring to these MTM’s realistically the 8010 range
no way he would have referred that
Like I said 8010 range certainly. In the conditions tested they would beat out the Gen ones simply because of the technology involved.
In a studio setting id expect the Gen one's to win, But i wont call it unless i get to do that test :)
i wonder if port noise,which was a design flaw in mm, has improved.
It has.
Will fully review when I get a set. I believe in them as a product 👍
Tbh. It still does have a port noise issue. But the fact that u can control the volume or the l.f extension (and also with the help from arc) makes a difference to minimize it
I have a horrible hiss coming from these that I didn't have with my other ones and can't figure it out. I'm using the AXE I/0
There was someone in the comments with a similar issue. I think they resolved it. I’m on the studio app an can’t see the comments right now but have a quick look.
Sq wise, how this MTM sound compared to small iloud micro?
I haven’t gotten them side by side yet. My impression is more linear, likely due to the technical voodoo going on.
Fingers crossed I can get a set early or dead on release to compare.
Tommorrow my mtms arrive😍
Happy music making 🤜🤛
@@Unders yeah thank you :)) you too
What you think about them vs iloud micro ?
Covered in video. They are very different in capability
Does the DSP compensate and boost the lows and highs a little at low volumes? I'd love a speaker that compensates for the human ear's loudness curve.
Sounds like maybe it does for bass? Or is it flat at low levels which would be perceived as light on bass by the human ear, and then flat to the ear at higher volumes, and then light again when turned up.
It aims to remain flat. The bass is clean DSP based. Most monitors under the 1k price range will use an internal EQ that boosts noise. These do not
BE Aware if you are dumb like me: All the reviews and the merchants do
not mention that these are sold individually and NOT as a set. I got all
excited and found a "great price" on Black Friday and then felt stupid
when I got one speaker in a big box, HA HA ha!!! So buy 2 and realize it
will cost you $270 to $350 EACH!
Nice
Very nice
Perfect phase,superflat, rivals high end monitors..
That's a lot of hype.
Usually, if something is too good to be true, it is.
Do these speakers really live up to the hype?
Why is any of that to good to be true?
Yes they sound amazing
@@PlatinumMastering Are they as good as the Adam A7 monitors or the SX range?
Mickeyislowd so for home setup microloud is good . They are very very flat if you measure with microphone . A7 is bigger size and SX range is better of course . So long story short for 3 inch speaker iloud is crazy good. With A7 you need treated room and Adams don’t have DSL built correction . So the answer for pro setup Adam is better with treated room . For home or portable setup iloud is the best . Also for voiceovers iloud is amazing .
Is the -11db function usable ? I am planning on getting the iloud mtm but at night i was thinking of utilizing the -11db function not to bother my neighbors.
I generally looking for an active speaker that basically muting bass option which this is closest thing to that ive seen so far .
If it is usable how bad or good are they while in that mode ?
Presonus eris 8
Not similar
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Nothing wrong here mate, plays fine. It’s not restricted either.
@@Unders I have Error in Poland. tried different proxy with VPN, same issue. It might be Content Delivery Network issue with propagation. probably it will start working in few hours. It might be too fresh :)
It’s been watched in 9 different countries that I can actually see. Poland isn’t one. 🤷♂️
no spare parts that what sucks about it
This seems to be the MO for everything now. Big supporter of right to repair personally. But until its enforced here we are.
lacks digital input through usb
What monitors take a digital usb audio input 🤷♂️
@@Unders true but the concept of integrated amp is kind of questionned if you need an external dac. vanatoo t1 encore also are compact, also have great bass for their size but has integrated dac, i know they are not advertised as studio monitors but they are suspiciuosly close as they have a flat response
WTF is wrong with this cameraman??????
Before people get "it competes with 8 inch and even with the space shuttle!" . An 3,5inch cone has in best case a membrane surface of 60-64 square Cm so x2= 120-130. A 6,5 inch speaker has around 120-130 square Cm. An 8 inch speaker however has 200-220. Nough said. Also their enclosures are plastic? Hmm. I wouldnt want to look at plastic speakers all day long
Ok so you don’t like black plastic monitor casing, that rules out about 80% of monitors but ok.
As for competing with 8” well your argument is entirely self made 🤷♂️ an not actually accurate.
@@Unders ? 1) 80% of monitors might be plastic or vinyl covered on an mdf and similar based enclosure. Not 100% made of plastic. 2) "my opinion"? Maximum Sound pressure is Cone surface × Xmax. I analyzed why they cant compete with an 8 inch with the laws of physics. Maybe with a cheapo 8 inch. What is your argument exactly and based on what?
@@saardean4481 No one compared anything to sound pressure anywhere. its literally not mentioned.
Low end frequency response yes, sound pressure not referenced, your making things up.
And the fact its MDF covered in Vinyl is different to you looking at it how?
You dont like them its fine, they are not for everyone to like but your arguments are odd to say the least, almost finding negatives literally for the sake of it.
@@Unders I own the micro monitors. Ok for "in the hotel while on the road" use but i dont like to have them full time in front of me. Prefer a Ks Digital or a metal enclosure of a Genelec but thats just me. Forget about that. Ik multimedia official site" IK’s iLoud Micro Monitors stunned an industry. Producers and engineers at every level marveled at the performance coming from such a small setup, so IK challenged our team to push its concept even further - to design a new compact speaker to rival 5”, 6” and even 8” monitors." Yes. You seem to find positives and holy grails for the sake of it my friend. I literally have a bit over 25 years experience with speakers. All i am saying is dont believe the hype. What you win with Dsp you pay with extra Amp strain. What you win in low end extension with little speakers you pay with long excursion which means slower responce cause you have more mass you have to control. PERIOD. As i said. You cant beat physics.
Note that your quote still has absolutely no references to sound pressure. Which has been your entire argument 🤷♂️
As for me finding positives, yes. Because I have actual experience with them.
Your right an 8” cone assuming it’s driver is decent can in-fact be louder, it can simply move more air. Which at no point has been up for question. So I just cannot grasp your overall negative attitude.
BE Aware if you are dumb like me: All the reviews and the merchants do
not mention that these are sold individually and NOT as a set. I got all
excited and found a "great price" on Black Friday and then felt stupid
when I got one speaker in a big box, HA HA ha!!! So buy 2 and realize it
will cost you $270 to $350 EACH!
This is really common with studio monitors. I do believe that IK have a set of 2 with 1 mic or as individuals. Hope you manage to enjoy your new monitor/s
Actually this guy does mention they are sold separate
Sorry for the multiple posts. don't
know what happened.
Actually this guy does mention they are sold separate
Sorry for the multiple posts. don't
know what happened.
It’s all good 😆