Why Miguel O'Hara is Tiktok's Newest Boyfriend (An Across the Spiderverse Video Essay) [SPOILERS]

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  • Join me as I try to dissect the minutiae of Miguel’s sway. We’ll be breaking down his characterization, and of course, his character design, because husbandos require the scientific expertise of MIT grads. As always, thanks for stopping by.
    Also, because I was being myself, I forgot to enter the timestamp for the SPOILER FREE character design analysis. Jump to 13:26 till 20:42.
    SOURCES:
    pastebin.com/X...
    TRACKS:
    All - Akira Yamaoka
    Taisei Iwasaki - Footloose Run for Cover
    Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney OST - Trial
    Into the Spiderverse OST - The Amazing Spiderman
    Across the Spiderverse OST - Spider-Man 2099 (Miguel O'Hara Theme)
    Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney OST - Logic and Trick
    Ride - Sir Mix a Lot (sped up remix)
    Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney OST - Courtroom Lobby ~Beginning~
    Into the Spiderverse OST - Spider Training
    Undertale OST - Waterfall
    Gourmet Race - Kirby Super Star
    Undertale - Dating Start!
    Undertale - Home
    Taisei Iwasaki - World Goes Round
    Persona 3 FES - Brand New Day
    Undertale - It's Raining Somewhere Else

ความคิดเห็น • 262

  • @neru5839
    @neru5839 ปีที่แล้ว +252

    Miguel is the perfect representation of a Mexican-Irish mix, coming from a Mexican-Irish person.
    Only difference is, Miguel is hot, and I'm not. CURSE YOU, O'HARA

  • @liss5158
    @liss5158 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    I knew Miguel would be the new internet boyfriend because he is the trifecta of 'daddy', 'dad' and 'I can fix him'

  • @Takkio-0
    @Takkio-0 ปีที่แล้ว +336

    *"I AM OF THIS TIRED MAN"*

    • @viviwithav
      @viviwithav  ปีที่แล้ว +56

      I AM. HE'S POLLUTING MY FYP

    • @animalzoo9108
      @animalzoo9108 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      So you make a video about him lol

    • @WhizPill
      @WhizPill ปีที่แล้ว

      @@animalzoo9108shows full ass crack

    • @manersbams9215
      @manersbams9215 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tbf he’s Hot. No one can deny the thirst.

  • @tristezaeternal
    @tristezaeternal ปีที่แล้ว +343

    Miguel is an absolutely great character, so great and well written I wanna slap him in the face in absolutely not-sexual way for how he treated Miles and Gwen. I stand with Hobie and his clear distaste towards Miguel and whole Spider Society lol

    • @NerissaAniela
      @NerissaAniela ปีที่แล้ว +15

      concordo, Miguel es un pendejo pero....he's soooo cute at the same time

    • @tristezaeternal
      @tristezaeternal ปีที่แล้ว +10

      he isn't cute :D he is attractive and wounded I get why people are thirsty over him but I am not@@NerissaAniela

    • @jasmintea8825
      @jasmintea8825 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Tbh I didn’t mind how he treated them s

    • @Ragingknight12
      @Ragingknight12 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@soykristina93 women only go for things/people they absolutely believe they can fix and that's why they get stuck in abusive relationships

    • @tristezaeternal
      @tristezaeternal ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Ragingknight12 lol, victim blaming much? thirsting over characters has nothing to do with how you behave irl, for what it's worth it helps you stay away from toxic people bc it allows you to indulge your quirks in safe environment where you can't be hurt by that guy

  • @aspiringbaker3607
    @aspiringbaker3607 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    The spot was the real tumblr sexy man of this movie

    • @cdau5513
      @cdau5513 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lmao

    • @Ms.Divine2024
      @Ms.Divine2024 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol

    • @viviwithav
      @viviwithav  ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Man is built like a box with the limbs of a baby giraffe

    • @aspiringbaker3607
      @aspiringbaker3607 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@viviwithav hey… if there’s a hole there’s a goal./j

    • @aspiringbaker3607
      @aspiringbaker3607 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@aaliyaheverett2601 not really. The spot isn’t a conventionally attractive white boy.

  • @uraveragehypochondriac64
    @uraveragehypochondriac64 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    as someone who has deleted tik tok because of the hell hole that it is i am happy to say i am still peacefully simping for miguel o hara in small portions 👍👍(pretty much just rewatching the same clips of miguel existing like every day)

    • @viviwithav
      @viviwithav  ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Aw, it's like you're in your own fandom! Which is better tbh

    • @uraveragehypochondriac64
      @uraveragehypochondriac64 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@viviwithav yesss exactly- cus it's happened a couple times where i really like something and the fan base ruins it for me. like the whole eddie munson thing 😭😭😭 so for now i'm good with appreciating fiction outside of their fandoms :)

  • @anisecandy3108
    @anisecandy3108 ปีที่แล้ว +223

    Some time ago I talked with friend about this... well phenomen, that Miguel frankly became, just not on tiktok but on tumblr.
    My theory is that in addition to the points you've already made, there's also an element of... explosion of a supressed honryness for this kind of archetype (cool, brooding, badboy, i can fix him...) after yeaaaars and years of the fandoms focusing on the non-traditionally attractive men; aka, the "tumblr sexymen", the "poor meow meows" etc, who are basically never muscular, often effeminate, eccentric, flamboyant, pathetic in one way or another and generally more goofy and silly (I don't mean it in a negative way, I find those traits lovable and have a fair share of favorite characters falling under those lebels). Actually, Spot, who shares those traits has his own portion of thirsting fans too, but it's nothing compared to the legions of Miguel's fans.
    Basically... I think that after numerous Oncelers, Bill Ciphers, Sanses, Lokis and eh... Kylo Rens...? we sort of circled back to loving the more mainstream archetypes, even if for a moment.

    • @mia_97
      @mia_97 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      yoo this makes so much sense!! makes me think of the soft boy epidemic a few years ago. really good justification for my ass unfortunately swooning over him too lmao

    • @viviwithav
      @viviwithav  ปีที่แล้ว +51

      That makes sense! Miguel feels like the 80s beefcake with the spirit of a post 2010s deconstruction of an antagonist

    • @kayleighgrant4007
      @kayleighgrant4007 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      All of these are fascists of one kind or another, they aren't that different. Most people are just attracted to Power, or perceived power. People aren't that complex.

    • @hyperx72
      @hyperx72 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@kayleighgrant4007 There's also a likening of physical activity, being healthy, and the ability to do things like carrying heavy weights/partners and being about to defend the family.

  • @musicmoi
    @musicmoi ปีที่แล้ว +138

    No idea how I stumbled across this, but very glad I did. Honestly a very unique viewing experience compared to almost all of what I've been watching lately. It was very relaxing, quaint, and quirky, but totally not in a cheesy/sappy way. It felt very personal and authentic, and I thoroughly enjoyed it, thank you.

    • @viviwithav
      @viviwithav  ปีที่แล้ว +14

      No, thank YOU for sticking around. I thought breaking down a character I'm not into was an interesting idea, so im glad you liked it!

  • @multipass113
    @multipass113 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    “I don’t wanna marry this man; I wanna bully him.” Lolololol
    Your humorous analysis is a joy to watch and educational, too.
    Your hard work is appreciated.

    • @viviwithav
      @viviwithav  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you, I try :)

  • @partyP00per123
    @partyP00per123 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    God this video was such an incredible deep dive of character writing and design, and fandom psychology. Especially as someone who has unfortunately fallen for this wild man lmao. You did such a wonderful job!!

    • @viviwithav
      @viviwithav  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thank you, I'm always so anxious when doing research! I'm also really new to editing, so I try to make up for it with writing

    • @partyP00per123
      @partyP00per123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@viviwithav Mood tbh, but I thought the editing was just fine tbh :0 It’s all good stuff regardless 👍

  • @Vegitodraws
    @Vegitodraws ปีที่แล้ว +136

    I've always loved Miguel from the comics. I actually used to own a book from the original Peter David run with Vulture 2099 (who is a cannibal btw). Seeing him on the big screen is a delight, and I love how they depicted his character. Though he is shockingly authoritarian in this movie, compared to his comic counterpart.

    • @viviwithav
      @viviwithav  ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Thats what I've noticed when doing my research! His comic vetsion is pretty coarse compared to the other spider people, but he's a lot more violent in ATSV

    • @Vegitodraws
      @Vegitodraws ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@viviwithav Yeah. They upped the violence, but Miguel can get pretty violent in the comics (fangs, claws, and stuff). I personally think him being authoritarian was a trauma response to losing everything considering that he used to be cavalier enough to travel to another universe and replace himself in that universe. I think his arc's going to take him full circle

    • @viviwithav
      @viviwithav  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Vegitodraws I so wanna see flashbacks, or more of the Miguel we got from the end of ITSV

    • @miracon000fez
      @miracon000fez ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@VegitodrawsI think you confused 2099 vulture with noir vulture who actually ate Peter uncle in that world.

    • @Vegitodraws
      @Vegitodraws ปีที่แล้ว

      @@miracon000fez no, I did not. Look it up. Again, I actually used to own that issue and it creeped me tf out.

  • @CaspianGraham-tx6qm
    @CaspianGraham-tx6qm ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Now, Miguel had amazing character design, a good story behind himself. A diverse personality, and deep rooted trauma that made his character. But..though I like his character, I do not justify his actions towards miles. It was extremely harsh, and it made no sense for a 27 year old man to choke slam a teenager to try and prevent mistake he had made previously. Now, I like watching edits of him etc. but uhm tiktok goes a tad bit far sometimes..and completely forget how he turned miles friends against him and beat the shit out of him. 😭

    • @viviwithav
      @viviwithav  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That's generally how I feel too. Not to be cheesy, but the personality is usually what draws me in

    • @CaspianGraham-tx6qm
      @CaspianGraham-tx6qm ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same! His looks were just a bonus tbh, I felt if the scene with miles didn’t happen. Everyone would like him, PROBABLY.But he’s a great character, I hope to see more of him in the next movie.@@viviwithav

  • @mistydragonfan1008
    @mistydragonfan1008 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Miguel is very well written and he's hot and he's cool so it's not surprising thatb he's getting popular

  • @Hapsetshut
    @Hapsetshut ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Brave of you to ever assume I even had dignity

    • @viviwithav
      @viviwithav  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Let's be real, did any of us?

  • @uraveragehypochondriac64
    @uraveragehypochondriac64 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    okay but i went into this thinking it was going to be an unscripted rant but damn this was actually really well made. i'm definitely subscribing this video was so much fun to watch 🩷

    • @viviwithav
      @viviwithav  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If this was unscripted, it'd be nigh incomprehensible lol. Thanks for stopping by :>

  • @crinkeli2909
    @crinkeli2909 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I FUCKING LOVE HIM RAAAHHHH AAAAAAA
    But yeah for real I think social media platforms have fucked us over. My engagement has been very low as well. Good luck on your journey to get more engagement and I loved your vid!

  • @xenitation
    @xenitation ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The similarities between Miguel and my dad are uncanny lol
    Anger issues, controlling, douchey. Dad’s tall and broad shouldered, he’s chilled out now but when my bro and I were kids, I could seriously see him slamming my bro against a train and calling him a mistake 😂

  • @viviwithav
    @viviwithav  ปีที่แล้ว +37

    TIMESTAMPS
    Intro: 0:00-1:00
    The Fandom: 1:01-4:55
    Shameful Shilling: 4:56-5:06
    Miguel Backstory: 5:07-8:12
    Vivisecting Miguel's Booty Cheeks: 8:13-9:00
    Miguel is a Byronic Hero: 9:01-13:25
    *SPOILER FREE* Character Design Analysis: 13:26-20:42
    Miguel's Role as an Antagonist: 20:42-21-49
    It's All Connected: 21:51-23:45
    The Husbando Formula - 24:26
    Speedpaint + Outro: 24:29-27:39
    Thanks guys. I hope you're surviving the heat out here.

  • @emubeepboop
    @emubeepboop ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I'm more of a hobie fan. He's a cool character but he kinda reminds me of my oldest brother, maybe I'm just not old enough to see it. I tend to be attracted to more androgynous people anyway, so hypermasculinity isn't really my thing. but yeah super tragic character but also poor miles

    • @mint_zzz
      @mint_zzz ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So tru, also attracted to more androgynous characters because they resonate with me on a kinda personal level (probably because I'm non-binary myself haha)
      My opinion on Hobie is - he's Homie but M is replaced with B. Like.. He's so cool!!

    • @SyLuX636
      @SyLuX636 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nah, Miles caused all this cause he wanted bed Gwen, who in itself a mess. Hobbie looks like hobo with a lost career in music.

    • @datzfatz2368
      @datzfatz2368 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SyLuX636 no he fuckin didnt you dingus. The Mess existed already because of Kingpin and Spot. Miles and Gwen contributed a bit to it as well a little sure, but its literally all Kingpins fault. I can garantuee you that the third movie will come to the conclusion that Miles, Gwen and Hobie got it figured out and Miguel doesnt. And Hobie looks like that because thats what he is. Hes a Punk. Hes rad as hell^^

    • @dumbnoodleman
      @dumbnoodleman 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      whoa there buddy strong feelings@@SyLuX636

  • @mustanggox
    @mustanggox ปีที่แล้ว +33

    So I saw a lot of ppl thirsting for this character, but when I watched the movie I didn't understand what all the interest is about. He's physically attractive, but that's about it... I don't rly understand ppl's intense attachment to this character from the movie alone, bro isn't even that likeable imo.
    Edit after watching the vid: I understand better now. Maybe it's the acespec in me, but the oversexualization thing makes me uncomfy. Also the obsession w/ "fixing" a "broken" person is quite toxic.

    • @viviwithav
      @viviwithav  ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I think the draw of a complex antagonist is too enticing for some people

    • @hope3290
      @hope3290 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I find it so comforting that every comment section I go under about him, there is always a bunch of fellow aroace-spec people who also don't get the obsession. I would much rather get to know Hobie.

    • @chimpzee8729
      @chimpzee8729 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      im aromantic and i think hes cool :3

    • @mustanggox
      @mustanggox ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chimpzee8729 i think hes cool just not in a sexual way :)

    • @mustanggox
      @mustanggox ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hope3290 yesss exactly

  • @ishathakor
    @ishathakor ปีที่แล้ว +21

    every time i go looking for spiderverse content i find miguel thirst. release me. i am so tired. i just want to see fanart of hobie

    • @afsgsgqdah
      @afsgsgqdah 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      hobie thirst

  • @LabiLabi777
    @LabiLabi777 ปีที่แล้ว +182

    If you're defending his awful decisions and trauma projection simply because you are thirsty for this man, there is hope. There is help. There is the Please Please Please Get A Life Foundation.

    • @ChaosAngel667
      @ChaosAngel667 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      I am defending him because he has every reason to do what he is doing. All the evidence points that disrupting canon events destroy universes and any THEORY stating otherwise will put in danger the lives of billions.

    • @GHOEST
      @GHOEST ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@ChaosAngel667 I agree with you, I mean he and Peter literally saw what happened when disrupting the canon

    • @fixsationon7244
      @fixsationon7244 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@ChaosAngel667 ok. A question.
      Is spider biting a person a canon évent ?
      Earth 42 is still there.
      The Miguel stuff feels like propaganda. 😊

    • @ChaosAngel667
      @ChaosAngel667 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fixsationon7244 Probably, or an event that kickstart canon events themselves.
      The only way to prove it is to come up with a theory and try it till universes stop unexisting themselves.

    • @alpyki2588
      @alpyki2588 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tbh if Miguel was on my list, he wouldn't be able to hold a candle to the most indefensible character on it.

  • @trentoatman2998
    @trentoatman2998 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So the TH-cam algorithm fed me your channel. And I’m happy it did. I’m really into Aesthetics, particularly of contemporary fantasy and fantasy adjacent media. But I’m not on TikTok, so I’m glad I found your channel, as it’s serving as a penetration point for me. Now I’m aware of various Fandoms around Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Spider-Man, JJK, and those communities interaction with the source media and their fan productions of it.
    You’re doing good work!

  • @Rosemont104
    @Rosemont104 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Nice analysis. This makes me wonder how fans will react if the next movie reveals any of his three love interests (particularly the most recent one, whose plot might have the most to do with the whole "saving someone who was supposed to die" theme).

    • @viviwithav
      @viviwithav  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ok, so I kind of know about his love interests, so im wondering if one of them was Gabriella's mom/his wife in the universe that collapsed

  • @Kyazzzari
    @Kyazzzari 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Absolutely adore this breakdown, I’ve been trying lately to be unbiased about Miguel’s character because (unfortunately) I love him a lot… and trust me, I mean a bunch. It’s really refreshing to hear breakdowns like these that go beyond the surface of his character. It really makes me appreciate what I need to know and understand about him, along with what I don’t and I can picture him accurately and not just “teehee sexy man, pulverize me”

  • @DaedricThot
    @DaedricThot ปีที่แล้ว +7

    First, awesome video. Everything you said is exactly why I adore him. I really love people’s creativity and self shipping, though I get envious that my art isn’t as developed. I still find it inspiring and love showing my support of people’s art work, so I can’t wait to give them my money 😩

  • @ShockMeister01
    @ShockMeister01 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As an amateur comic creator constantly stressing over the ins and outs of his entire project, this video not only was hilarious, but genuinely informative for me. This just popped out of nowhere in my feed and I’m absolutely glad it did. Thanks a bunch. =)

  • @heroicgangster9981
    @heroicgangster9981 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As an hardcore Moon Knight fan before when the show was at its peak popularity (and still am of course), I got two nickels from each time Oscar Isaac made everyone fall in love with him as a superhero XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

  • @Eddierath
    @Eddierath ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This phenomenon is what is known as the "vampire effect" .
    Remember that twilight fiasco.
    🤢 🤮 (Can't believe I typed twilight)
    The vampire effect is what happens to the SALES of novels written about vampires (WHEN DONE CORRECTLY) Aimed primarily towards a female audience.
    The author of twilight 🤢🤮 ... sorry. ...spoke on this.
    But some one who investigated the abnormal sales of these novels noticed a theme as to why.
    "A being who doesn't simply love you, IT LUSTS AFTER YOU to the extent that he has to go to war with him self BECAUSE HE REQUIRES YOUR BLOOD TO SURVIVE.
    AT ANY MOMENT, HE CAN TEAR YOU TO SHREDS AND HES BARELY KEEPING A LID ON IT, .... On top of that it NATURALLY attracts you to him"
    ☝️ Slap on a handsome face and panties will be so wet you can hear waves breaking for miles. Lol
    I get why this is happening. It's not just about butt cheeks.

  • @symbiotusinc.8862
    @symbiotusinc.8862 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This was a very in-depth analysis of his character and everything else involved. Awesome stuff!

  • @WindlessEmu
    @WindlessEmu ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Awesome video! It’s really cool to get analysis about this trend, especially one that so in depth!

  • @_kaleido
    @_kaleido ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I find the Internet’s obsession with him kind of funny/bizarre lol, nice analysis though

    • @viviwithav
      @viviwithav  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's strange, isn't it? It's too fascinating to not talk about

  • @veyarain82
    @veyarain82 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Take care of yourself

  • @NerissaAniela
    @NerissaAniela ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amazing video!! super chill and very very comfy to sit through, amazing points and I love the analysis(also the hair bit lol I agree SO MUCH!!!) So happy to stumble across your channel, definitively watching more of your work! 💜✨

  • @KSapphire8989
    @KSapphire8989 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Love this analyst. I'm a concept art on youtube that is always looking to improve and learn. Also it's an interesting take on why he is a honey trap.

    • @viviwithav
      @viviwithav  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I always say you can never learn enough. I like to do these to keep my brain busy, so I'm glad you got to take away something from it :)

    • @KSapphire8989
      @KSapphire8989 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@viviwithav fair enough. ^^ it's always good to keep the brain busy. I'm interested in quadrilateral shapes, circles and triangles. It's interesting how they apply to the language of the character's structure without going into heavy explanations on the writer or the creators part..^^ ( if you want to check out some of my concept creations on my page. ) Also as a fellow nerd myself..... I'm devoted to only two husbandos that I adore so I can relate to the comment in the beginning. However, have this character sort of bulldozer his way into my Husbando circle...yea... didn't see that coming. *Shaking her head* that is minus the Oliver Reed comparison for I recognize that actor when I was kid. ( Your video is wonderful and it's just exciting.)

  • @LostSoulSilver
    @LostSoulSilver ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very entertaining and in depth. Subscribed!

  • @nataliadevova3943
    @nataliadevova3943 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what a wonderfull essay! I listened to it while making dinner, then came back and carefully watched it from the very begining. Was not dissapointed! Your sence of humore and understanding of character's design is mesmerazing.

  • @catcat63527
    @catcat63527 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Look, I'm psychology master's. I'll happily give this man therapy if I just get to be in his presence.

  • @Tesseract.
    @Tesseract. ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I am like you in so many ways😭
    Every time I enter Pinterest it’s all good…and then I’m flashbanged with sus Miguel pictures. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. And I don’t even know why because I look up the others more than him
    Ironically before the movie came out a friend and I had a thing for him, but when I saw the film I thought he was a cool character, but my simping died completely
    AND NOW IM SO SICK OF SEEING HIM OMG
    And I too would like Trigun to once again invade my feed😭

    • @viviwithav
      @viviwithav  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I dont know how it happened to my fyp! I legit saw ONE Miguel tiktok, and that was the Trojan horse

    • @starryeyes999
      @starryeyes999 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I am so sick and tired of seeing him everywhere, i am more of a first movie enjoyer, and DESPITE THAT, i get sus ass miguel drawings recommended to me for my spoderverse folder even tho i mostly collect pics of the b team and peni parker >:(

  • @kat4t4
    @kat4t4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    omg i didn't expect such a deep dive

    • @viviwithav
      @viviwithav  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I can't help it! It's an interesting topic :>

    • @kat4t4
      @kat4t4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@viviwithavand I enjoyed every second of it

  • @alpyki2588
    @alpyki2588 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As someone who grew up on the 90's Fox cartoon, I am both immune to Miguel's nicely drawn form, and to horrific body horror.
    Also wish the next movie would address where he is. He f'd off into the spider-verse before it was cool and is still somewhere looking for his universe's Mary Jane.

  • @Bryonybeebee
    @Bryonybeebee ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I really love your videos Vivi, thank you for taking the time to research and talk about the most annoying man on the internet rn hahaha
    I like him as a character and antagonist but I’m not thirsting for him because fail husband Peter B Parker is right there haha

    • @viviwithav
      @viviwithav  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My friend and I were just talking about how Peter is, without a question, a prime piece of meat sitting right there

    • @Bryonybeebee
      @Bryonybeebee ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@viviwithav Miguel may be the man of the moment but Peter is forever

  • @yuzanyoshida7176
    @yuzanyoshida7176 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why don't you have more subscribers! I love this soo much, love your analysis!

  • @SpagettiSpeltWrong
    @SpagettiSpeltWrong ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have an incredibly normal and healthy relationship to this fictional character. I like Miguel a normal amount. Yes I think he is physically attractive but that's just because the character designers made him that way. I did not take a wiff of the screen when I left the theater. Idk what you're talking about.

  • @atomixness8351
    @atomixness8351 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    god this video is soooo me😂 you're awesome ❤

    • @viviwithav
      @viviwithav  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Come pick up your man, he's living inside my walls

    • @atomixness8351
      @atomixness8351 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ill be there soon to claim my wayward husband 😂

  • @shahahmednezadnehal1750
    @shahahmednezadnehal1750 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I never simped over a charecter and if i said i never did i NEVER!! But goddamit! Since i am a spiderman fan i would obviously see this movie but miguel i never thought i would love him like this! Like bruh i was even thinking about him when i was in exam hall YES YOU HEARD RIGHT EXAM HALL!!

  • @Pyro_Papillo
    @Pyro_Papillo ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I just want to say I fucking love all of the Kekkai sensen osts in here
    That shit was underrated as fuck.

    • @viviwithav
      @viviwithav  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My goal is to convert all the non believers to the kekkai koolaid

    • @Pyro_Papillo
      @Pyro_Papillo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@viviwithav you know it be pretty cool if you made a video about Kekkai
      Just saying, I’d like the hell out of it
      Well, if you won’t, I eventually will

  • @GiornoLovesDeathGrips
    @GiornoLovesDeathGrips ปีที่แล้ว +8

    What's with the Miguel stuff when Hobie is right there.

    • @viviwithav
      @viviwithav  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Because the Miguel phenomena is on another level, and Hobie is so horribly underrated

    • @_kaleido
      @_kaleido ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Also Hobie’s age in the movie is pretty ambiguous so some people might be wary of doing too much with him

    • @viviwithav
      @viviwithav  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @katleido I've seen some people speculate he's a young adult around 19-20. Kind of fits when he's like the big brother of the crew

  • @Scweetoof
    @Scweetoof ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was a great and hilarious analysis 🫶🏽😂

  • @julianagreves3149
    @julianagreves3149 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, thanks 4 making and sharing 😊

  • @nhilinhnguyen4191
    @nhilinhnguyen4191 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video absolutely made my night. The analysis, the prose/narration and the humor is all top notch! Please keep doing what you do ❤.

    • @viviwithav
      @viviwithav  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks fam :) I'm gonna keep trying to deliver

  • @missmangayaoi
    @missmangayaoi ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Fuck. you're my new favorite TH-camr. you GET ME. everything you say, I'm like: yeah! exactly!

    • @viviwithav
      @viviwithav  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Aw, thanks fam! I really appreciate it

  • @introvertedArtist2045
    @introvertedArtist2045 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Totally off topic but FELLOW TRIGUNNER YEAAAAAHH

  • @vanzwho854
    @vanzwho854 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    3:57 i didnt think i would hear such a sentence today

  • @sterlinh
    @sterlinh ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I personally am aroace and don’t get the hype, but I still enjoy how complex he is and how easily you can create angst with him. All in all, cool character.

  • @rayhanansari1506
    @rayhanansari1506 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Miguel is supposed to be stronger variant of peter parker yet the movie nerfed him so much and gave Miles ultimate plot armor. Yet I do support Miles but I would still say miles can not beat comics Miguel for sure.

    • @xenon8927
      @xenon8927 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lmao no he isn’t. Miguel is weaker than most spider-men on account of not having spider-sense. That on its own puts Peter and Miles way ahead of him

    • @rayhanansari1506
      @rayhanansari1506 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@xenon8927 that's the problem even you didn't see that. To counter the lack of spider sense, he got accelerated vision which other spider men do not have. Plus his upcoming advanced suit's sensors would function just like spider sense. Read comics bro

  • @moonjumper3624
    @moonjumper3624 ปีที่แล้ว

    YOU’RE SO UNDERRATED WOWWWW

  • @LilMizRandom09
    @LilMizRandom09 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought nothing of this man until that chase scene. The desperation. That but where he speaks directly into his captives ear. Mhn.

  • @viviwithav
    @viviwithav  ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I forgot to enter the timestamp for the SPOILER FREE character design analysis. Jump to 13:26 till 20:42.

  • @Cingiturvin
    @Cingiturvin ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I seriously hate the dude, He's freaking everywhere and to top that off his personality isn't any better.
    If i had to like-like a character it would have to be Pavitr or Gwen
    Those two I actually enjoy.

  • @CandyThePuppy
    @CandyThePuppy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    YOU'RE SO GOOD AT ART! ToT

  • @moonjumper3624
    @moonjumper3624 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    He’s hot… BUT HE HAS *LAYERS* AND THAT’S EVEN COOLER

  • @Astrapionte
    @Astrapionte ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nahhh 2:47 is CRAZYYYYYYYYYY

  • @Mallorr
    @Mallorr 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I hope things get better!
    Depression hits close to home here as well
    Miguel for me is really funny cause I kinda hit Byronic tones for a while and now that I’m much less miserable and fit it’s funny to look back and be like: people liked my unstable ass???

  • @notaninfodump5929
    @notaninfodump5929 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Huh, I haven’t been on Tik Tok so I’ve only had secondhand experience with the Michael O’Hara phenomenon. Everyone I know on YT either simps for Hobie or The Spot.

  • @pandaragons6388
    @pandaragons6388 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm wearing headphones rn and the part around 10 mins sounds so bad, the audio keeps jumping between speakers 😭😭😭 and it's not just my headphones being crunchy all of a sudden, I checked

  • @mayo_nnais3
    @mayo_nnais3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i don't know why peter b. parker is literally ignored, at least compared to miguel. maybe i'm just biased because i'm into him but i just don't see why miguel is more well-liked than him.

  • @Autistic_CLAWZZ
    @Autistic_CLAWZZ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    CA you be mad tho? He's a fucking hot vampire

  • @missmangayaoi
    @missmangayaoi ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I found you with ROTTMNT, which has been my obsession for 8 months now, I am STOKED, hearing about more Rise content! if you ever want help, I LOVE this stuff!

    • @viviwithav
      @viviwithav  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I will say it again: Rise is woefully underrated, so I hope you like what I'm cooking up next ;) Thanks for the offer btw! I just dropped a lot of money on a new PC setup to help streamline editing, and to start streaming so I think I'm good for now. Your support is all I need :)

  • @Fruit_Infiniti
    @Fruit_Infiniti 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent, well-made video analysis. I love Miguel. He’s a pain in the butt. And though people recommend against reading the 2099 comics, I think it’s worth it. Comics Miguel is a callous, angry lil man and it’s neat to think about his character development from then to the cinematic version of him.

  • @spinjitzumasterfalcon
    @spinjitzumasterfalcon 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    3:28 Now I get why people are obsessed with him. 😂

  • @LilMizRandom09
    @LilMizRandom09 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hope you feel better. I know what its like to be there. You seem like a cool person. Look after yourself and seek help when needed.

  • @mr_me0ws0me
    @mr_me0ws0me ปีที่แล้ว +2

    idk why but the audio seems to jump sporadically from ear to ear around 10:30 or smth

  • @brandonixehuatl4681
    @brandonixehuatl4681 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I laughed when you say and started with "Why are thirsty GUYS and gals....." 😂😂😂😂

  • @smagpie
    @smagpie 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I can't I Im too down bad im-
    *morphs into beast*
    ''MIGGY-''

  • @ahmadmalaki8364
    @ahmadmalaki8364 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6:43 come to think of it he might be the first spider man i have seen who can poison his foes

  • @wolfnahson9389
    @wolfnahson9389 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Miguel give us Latinos good representation we’re crazy and hot with passion of fire viva la Mexico

  • @batmaninja1
    @batmaninja1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The way they thirst over him is the reason I'm in the gym trying to morph into a Dorito

  • @CandyThePuppy
    @CandyThePuppy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    22:55 XD That is so me though. Not with Miguel specifically. I honestly feel indifferent toward him since hulking muscles aren't and have never been my thing, but I have a very specific branch of characters I can obsess over; not because I wanna kiss 'em or anything, but because I know they would be a BLAST to bully! Or at the very least banter with. Maybe become partners in crime, or even better, rivals.

  • @djpointer2525
    @djpointer2525 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    See...
    ...this is why I'm not on TikTok. OvO
    I love me some Miguel, but I completely understand getting turned off by the shear SATURATION of content.

  • @mememom9293
    @mememom9293 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yes. My donut 🍩 wants his cream 🍦
    Stop judging me.....😂
    I will say I've always liked this type of man. Kenpachi Zaraki was my first crush. 😂 That was almost 20 years ago

    • @viviwithav
      @viviwithav  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      🤣Ok, so I get the vibe you probably grew up watching anime in the 90s, so imma hit you with a throwback: Kurogane and Fai from Tsubasa Chronicles are DELICIOUS husbands

    • @mememom9293
      @mememom9293 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@viviwithav I actually didn't read that one. I do believe it was written by the same writers(clamp) as xxHolic, chobits, cardcaptor Sakura (fuck I've forgotten how to spell all that shit)....those where girly animes/manga even through I'm a girl, I always was reading "boyish" mangas
      Didn't read much shonen stuff.
      But yeah guilty. I'm a 90s kid

  • @SodaliteSushi
    @SodaliteSushi ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am very much a demisexual. I NEED to like someone’s personality first before I like them. And yes, had Miguel looked like anyone else, I probably would hate him.
    …my take is that out list for him isn’t logical whatsoever.
    It’s fucking *CARNAL* 💀

  • @CandyThePuppy
    @CandyThePuppy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    10:20 ma girl's teleporting back and forth between headphone earpieces at an _alarming_ pace! XD

  • @shawnthompson2303
    @shawnthompson2303 หลายเดือนก่อน

    *Find him.*
    ♦️♠️♦️

  • @r.babylon2885
    @r.babylon2885 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is not the video I anticipated.

  • @wyattcar4071
    @wyattcar4071 ปีที่แล้ว

    TBH I just want to give him a platonic hug. I love laughing my ass off at people thirsting over him.

  • @TitanusJase621
    @TitanusJase621 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The beginning was...

    • @viviwithav
      @viviwithav  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Life changing? I know

  • @abyssalzone2957
    @abyssalzone2957 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Reason why people like spider man2099 dude is built like a machine.
    2 he’s masculine
    3 he’s organized
    4 he’s a leader
    5 he’s cool af
    Feminine women tend to love these traits in a man😁

  • @NU-BLUD
    @NU-BLUD ปีที่แล้ว +2

    us hispanics have that effect

  • @edwardramos4591
    @edwardramos4591 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    On one hand, I find this version of Spidey 2099 to be an utter boneheaded tightwad too traumatized (and probably neck deep in sunk cost fallacy) to realize that the canon is not as hard coded as he thinks (as shown by Spider-Gwen's dad quitting the force without repercussions and the continued existence of Earth 42).
    On the other hand, he just has such a great design; a neat blend of that early 90s edge, and genuine standalone coolness (especially unmasked). I can see why people are simping from the design alone.

  • @YAHSHUA777
    @YAHSHUA777 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You know, everybody's been GLAZING miguel, but nobody's been given love to the SCARLETT SPIDER..." No I'm just a CLONE"
    Seriously though cool video, you just earned the subscriber......
    now please stop talking about cheeks

  • @TheArmaldo
    @TheArmaldo ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a random recommendation for me, but I am so happy to have found it! I loved your deep dive and takes. :) Definitely earned a sub from me, and I look forward to watching your other content.

  • @dtfar4
    @dtfar4 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    😂🤣 you are funny af!

  • @finlaycb2961
    @finlaycb2961 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i liekd this and am purely commenting to help the algorithm xD

    • @viviwithav
      @viviwithav  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      TH-cam appreciates the offer

  • @chillexe6813
    @chillexe6813 ปีที่แล้ว

    like, i find him a cool antagonist and a cool character and love the memes about his "hatred" for mile(We all know what I'm talking about) and "bro, it's a canon event" but that's where my interests end. i knew of the guy from the edge of time video game but that's about it. i don't really care for him that much. i wanna strangle him for what he did to my boy, i feel for his tragedy, and he presents a very interesting moral dilemma but that's about it. the fact that this guy has such a hold over people is crazy to me. Watching this all unfold is like the rebirth of the onceler fandom but on a much smaller scale...for now

  • @Maskedmenace8267
    @Maskedmenace8267 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    THIS MF MADE ME UNDERSTAND GATE KEEPERS

  • @instinctfan23
    @instinctfan23 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just love how Miguel technically checks almost all of my husbando list, but falls so flat with the character personality part that it could count as an canon event 😂 (The only guys who got all of them so far are Zag from HADES and Luke from Street Fighter 6)
    EDIT: And THANK YOU! Glad I'm not the only one who would yeet Spider Cat in his fave via a Laserpointer to bully him 🤣

  • @gapsule2326
    @gapsule2326 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tomboy Lois x Chad Miguel... Lets combine the sickness

  • @xXDa_R4nd0m_0ni0n_G4rlXx
    @xXDa_R4nd0m_0ni0n_G4rlXx ปีที่แล้ว

    i relate to the text in the thumbnail

  • @ChaosAngel667
    @ChaosAngel667 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Miguel is doing everything right. Disrupting canon events has been proved to cause universes to collapse and test any other theory will put billions of lives in danger.