I cried hearing you describe how you identify and explaining everything because it made me feel more seen and like i belong as a person more than ive felt in a long time and finally gave me the confidence to say that i am nonbinary/genderfluid. And that its okay. i dont have to be anything i dont want to be or that i simply am not. im really nervous and scared because my family doesnt understand these kinds of things and they hate seeing me as anything other than a feminine girl, but ive decided i want to be real and happy and that means being who i genuinely am around my family too. im going to come out to everyone when im ready and can see them all in person. Thank you for being a part of this community and helping so many people like myself. i hope you have a beautiful life.
I love this. You are so brave. I think being who we authentically are is one of the hardest things, but it also is one of the most rewarding. Stay true to you!
A girl is a female human being, not a 'feminine' human being. That's just sex stereotyping. When you claim that you must not be a girl or woman because you don't conform to 'femininity' you buy into the very system that oppresses girls and women and become a part of the problem. You don't have to pretend or claim to be something else just to be who you are. Just be who you are - a female human being in all your complexity, diversity and individuality - just like everyone else. Don't box us all in via the limiting, narrow, oppressive concept of 'gender'.
@@LorriSulpizio By calling yourself 'nonbinary' you're claiming that 'woman' equates to 'femininity' and you're not that so you must not be a woman. That's what sex stereotyping *is* .
I'm in my 40s and all of this makes so much sense about my identity. I've carried shame for years from other's criticisms that I was "a little too masculine" or "not girly enough." Deep down I've always felt pretty neutral about my gender. I just thought I "should" be more feminine. I wish more older generations were open to exploring their own identity. This journey of healing is going to be so empowering for me...thank you Dr. Lorri!
I’m so glad. We do put a lot of constraints on ourselves based on the message we get from society. Better late than never to find freedom and live out your life in a way that feels authentic. Cheers to you!
Older generations challenged the sexism underlying the concept of 'gender' decades ago. This current ideology is the backlash to that progress. The older generations were actually progressive.
I was born as a biological man and live openly as non-binary bigender. My biggest problem is not language or clothing or toilets. My biggest problem are people who act out their transphopia on me and insult me or try to hurt me though I am a peaceful compassionate human being.
I identify as a man, but I like to dress some women’s clothes while still trying to fly under the radar. My wife doesn’t like it so I’m kind of restricted as to how feminine I can go. I’m not looking to wear a dress and high heels but I would like to be able to wear womens clothing on the edge of androgyny
Its sad you can't feel free.. As long as you love your wife and you are not attracted to other people and you are honest with her (Maybe that's what she is afraid of and need reassurance? ) I think you should dress the way you want... I would accept that if I had a boyfriend who was loving and loyal to me and wanted to wear a dress.. I think communication and honesty towards oneself and the other person involved is crucial...
We are an OSDD system with autism. Our brain is gender fluid. We have spend the last few years struggling with agoraphobia and disordered eating. We appreciate your existence! Thank you for bravely sharing your wisdom and understanding with the world. One rainbow at a time. 🤘🔥🧠
This is very educational... Thanks for clearing this up... I feel like I identify as a Nonbinary, but I don't really care to be considered a They/Them, or a He/She... I'm just myself and body is female, but I don't feel either masculine or feminine.
This video gave me chills. I'm not in a place where I can comfortably present myself the way I would like to, but hearing that it's okay to do so brought me a lot of joy. Thank you
I'm a cis man and I really enjoyed this video. I'm fascinated with the different ways that people live their lives and all the different kinds of people out there. You're video was very educational, thank you.👍
Cis 58 yo female here. Yes. I was curious why so many young people are declaring their pronouns these days, so I Googled it and found this very helpful video. When I was in college for art and theatre in the early 80s, my wide circle of friends included a whole, complex spectrum of genders. We just didn’t worry about how other people defined us.
Three comments.. 1) Lorrie, I'm so grateful for this video and your interview if Dr. Soh. I've learned so much from you, and really appreciate your perspective and interest in clarity. 2) For me, the semantics distinguish between gender identity (our internal sense, which is probably biological) and gender expression (acts we take, probably based on interpretation of gender identity). This leads me to wonder though how much our subjective interpretation of gender identity is influenced by social constructs and stereotypes. 3) I am man with a nurturing, collaborative nature but have never thought of that as feminine or experience any sense of self that wasn't male. Can't I think of those traits as within the range of a male gender identity? Could it be that rather than gender being the social construct, it's our culturally based stereotypes on what we imagine male or female identity and behavioral interests feels like?
I LOVE what you are saying. And YES! I wish for my sons to be nurturing and collaborative and have that just be a part of who they are as a man. Could it even be possible to get rid of the 'like a man' and 'like a woman' constructs?
Well, why do you think those culturally based stereotypes exist and why are they so similar across cultures? Maybe because many of them are somewhat biologically driven? Even colors, although which one is M/F is arbitrary (blue/pink), seem to be a way to recognize the binary separation of sex. It's a huge mistake to think that culture is entirely made up and not grounded in biology. Even computer software is somewhat tied to the hardware. It's healthy to recognize and accept our biology. What is the "range of male gender identity" if you don't consider the feminine range? What's outside the male range? Male gender identity only makes sense if you have an opposite, a contrast. There's only a range if there are boundaries. And the boundaries are male/female.
@@johnc3525 I don't think op was saying that there is no binary male or female. I think he was trying to say that while there is socially understood characteristics that make up these two binary things, that outside of these binary characteristics is a range of male, female, and other. I personally exist in the other category, which to me is not due to how I act or how I choose to present myself. It is because of something in my brain that makes me feel differently than just male or female, girl or boy. While culture does have something to do with biology at least somewhat, as I agree, culture is not entirely made up, but I think it is silly to believe that everything, even our stereotypes associated with culture such as assigning colors of all things to genders. I feel its a slippery slope to believe that culture is biological because within that culture is stereotypes, gender stereotypes, racial stereotypes, and more which isn't biological but societal beliefs that may OR MAY NOT have ANYTHING to do with the biology of the individuals involved.
I never really felt like a "full woman" or "full man". I am shaped like a woman with the skull shape of a man. I enjoy "woman" characteristics and "male" characteristics. I used to hate my male side because I thought it would make me a "lesser woman". There are days were I'm super girly and days I'm acting super manly. I sometimes prefer all pink/purple and sometimes all blue/green. One day I enjoy wearing men's perfume and another day I wanna smell like roses. I sometimes go through the women's clothing section and I'm in love with everything. Another day I avoid it like a plague and fall in love with the men's section. I always thought that this state makes me nothing but a weirdo. Hoping one day I'll be a "proper woman". But today I talked with a friend. I recently realized I might be pan and he also said he has the same "issue". I talked about my gender issue and he jokingly brought up the question "What if your future partner called you a he/dude one day?"... The thought made me happy. But I'm also happy being called a she. I don't know if this makes me gender fluid.. But ever since he brought that up I've been questioning myself so hard haha
@@LorriSulpizioIt's obvious. You correctly observed that society limits girls, women, boys and men via sex roles, stereotypes and expectations, but instead of rejecting that you turned around and defined all of us in those terms - as 'cis', 'trans', 'binary' and 'nonbinary'. 'Gender' is the entire problem. Ideologies that uphold, reinforce and perpetuate it are therefore not the solution.
The issue here is that people were already using words to describe the gender norms and many people were very unseen, not just unseen but ousted from society, sidelined and told they are wrong for existing. Using words to claim identity can be hugely empowering for people. I feel great knowing I could choose and explore rather than just have to conform.
As someone born in the ‘70s that now finds themselves married and the father of 2 small children and only now really doing a deep-dive into these subjects, I thank you for the video. As you suggested at the end of the video might be the case, I am already ‘gender-fluid’ and didn’t realize it. Well, maybe I realized it but never thought to really embrace it in a way that challenges myself and helps me to grow. I only wish that these discussions had taken root as I was growing up. Incidentally, it’s interesting to note that one of the key points of Buddhism has to do with seeing the world through a NON-BINARY lens, resulting in a ‘trans-formative’ worldview embodying release from always feeling the need to judge everything and everyone while neatly compartmentalizing our experiences. The content of this video is helping to end separation, misunderstanding, demonization, violence, and war. ~ much love
Back in the 60's and 70's and in fact hundreds of years prior, people have been challenging the idea that we have to conform to sex roles and stereotypes. Mostly female people, but also more progressive and gay men. So you didn't miss out on anything. It must've just gone right over your head. Which might explain why you think this current ideology is somehow the revolution, when in fact it's the conservative backlash to that genuine progress. Your last sentence was quite the flourish by the way.
I’m so glad I found this video and your channel. I’m just figuring things out in my early fifties. I just came out to myself and my family at 49. This was also the time I was diagnosed as autistic. So many things coming together all at once and my life making so much more sense! I say genderqueer for myself, because I’m still learning myself- I just know I don’t feel like a woman is supposed to even though I’m AFAB, but I don’t feel like a man either. Honestly, just being honest with myself that I wasn’t a cis gender straight woman. I’m also realizing I’m on the ace spectrum too, but even in all the uncertainty, I know I’m on the path to meeting my authentic self and living authentically gives me so much peace. I’ll definitely go check out your previous videos. Thanks for sharing your expertise and experiences with us.
How refreshing to finally hear someone break down and explain these terms in a way that not only makes sense, but seems less threatening. It’s a much better conversation than being force fed these terms, and risk being called phobic when we don’t comply..thanks!
why would someone else's gender expression (or even them being vocal about it) be threatening? especially when cisgender people are the standard and get to gatekeep critical resources that trans, non-binary, genderqueer, gender fluid, etc. folks may need to survive - in a world in which cis-ness and heteronormality is exalted to such a degree that nearly everything is tailored around it, gender-variant individuals being vocal about who they are (so they can spread awareness, gain equal treatment, be left alone and co-exist freely in society as is their right) is not force-feeding anybody anything - and nobody's asking you to comply with anything - again - someone asking you to respect their gender expression, sexual expression, pronouns--whatever it is--(as they do yours) SHOULDN'T be seen as something that takes any ounce of power away from you and it shouldn't be seen as some command - it's a request - unless of course you're THAT uncomfortable with your own expression or are using it to assert power over other people
@@antwanzhane Men competing in women's sports, using their bathrooms and prisons, being in women's shelters are not trans/gender rights. Your kind want privileges, not rights and your kind are demanding those privileges and taking tons of power away from us. What critical resources do you need to survive that are taken from you? Food? Water? Housing? Clothes? Again, men competing against women isn't a critical resource. Gender activists dream of laws forcing people to comply with using "preferred pronouns" and playing along with your gender fantasies. People have been arrested or investigated for saying obvious things like "there are only 2 sexes" or "transwomen aren't women". How's that not forcing, commanding, imposing? I'm not afraid of people like you because of how you dress/look but I'm afraid of what you're doing to society politically.
@@antwanzhane Stop projecting please. You're the ones trying to exert power and control over others by defining us in reference to your personal, ideological beliefs and dictating what they can think, do and say.
A good video, but I would like to add that there should be discussion too about the difference between gender identity and gender expression. The two are not automatically the same thing, and defining gender as "the outward expression of our sex" can be misleading. One can very much be gender fluid, non-binary, agendered, bigendered, etc, but not outwardly appear so. Likewise, one can dress as the "opposite sex" but still identify as cisgendered. There are many reasons why someone may or may not choose to express their gender outwardly, and these reasons are just as complex as gender identity itself. Clothes, hair, makeup and the like are all great tools that can allow us to discover and explore our gender identity, but they aren't necessary for that, and it's good to understand that gender expression is different than gender identity.
Doesn't sound strange at all. Genderfluid is a subcategory of nonbinary. Nonbinary is more of an umbrella term for all nonbinary genders, genderfluid, bigender, agender, etc. So if you're genderfluid, then you're also nonbinary.
Just because some exceptions exist does not mean that the rule is not valid. Yes , the sex is binary , either male or female. People who have one ovary and one testicle or some kind of am ambiguous genitalia suffer from a medical problem that oftentimes means infertility. Also hormone levels and the sensitivity your body has (or does not have ) to those hormone levels is going to develop certain traits in your psychology that make you more masculine than feminine in your ways (higher levels of testosterone compared to estrogen OR not higher levels but higher sensitivity to testosterone and lower sensitivity to estrogen ) or more feminine than masculine in your ways ( higher levels of estrogen than testosterone or maybe not higher levels but higher sensitivity to estrogen and lower sensitivity to testosterone). Estrogen gives you maternal behaviours (makes you more nurturing, soothing , comforting , etc) and testosterone gives you paternal behaviours (makes you more physically tough , protective , and territorial ). It is pretty simple and not that much of a social construct. Clothes and haircuts and accessories associated to gender are social constructs that vary from one culture to another. BUT instinctive male and female behaviours are hormonally based and are pretty much the same in all dymorphic mammals . Transgender people are an EXCEPTION to the rule and it is good to remember this.
I agree. Two sexes are necessary and sufficient to make babies, therefore sex is 100% binary. Like you said well, intersex are usually infertile, which proves they're an anomaly, not part of a spectrum. I suspect transgenderism is a mental illness and this whole gender confusion are personality disorders that lead to an incapacity to perceive sex boundaries.
If sex is binary, what about intersex people? Having ambiguous genitals does not necessarily mean they have "a medical problem", and I think plenty of intersex people would find that insulting and offensive, which is why they fight to be heard and treated with respect, especially since the medical establishment will try to "correct" their genitals at birth without any consent, under the assumption that's what the baby will grow up to want and also to reinforce these gender constructs. And what about males who have higher levels of estrogen or females who have higher levels of testosterone? Estrogen and testosterone can have certain effects in people, but I think it's way too simplistic to just say that estrogen = nurturing and testosterone = aggressiveness. What if a male has high testosterone but is extremely nurturing? Or vice versa for a female? It sounds like you're reducing people to their hormones and genitals, which, while those aspects are a part of us, it's much more complex than that and quite reductionistic to do so. There are innumerable factors that can contribute to hormones/hormone levels, etc. So to just look at someone's genitals and automatically assume a correlating hormone or hormone level and then say that that's who the person is or should be and that it's a simplistic, strict binary is harmful and wrong in many ways.
Thanks Doctor. I never questioned my gender and sex cause I fit the norms of society. But as I explore social constructs I wanted to understand each member of our community. I wish everyone watched this.
I’ve come to really appreciate gender nonconforming women, and how they help open up the category in society of how a woman can be for all of us. Thank you!
This was super helpful to me! I’ve been trying to figure out which one I am, only recently switching to she/they pronouns, and I have to say I was delighted to hear you describe your gender and relationship to it, as that’s basically mine too. I identify as a woman and am comfortable with that, so I wasn’t sure if that meant I’m not really gender nonconforming. But I think I was right before, that gender fluid describes me best. Thank you for this video!
I always felt like a guy but not full a guy, but not nearly enough to say I resonate with being women either. I’ve thought about where I fall before but ended up just staying known as a guy. Can someone help explain what I should be doing looking into about myself. I do like being feminine sometimes but mostly masculine the rest of the time. I’m not sure if I’m making the right decision atm since I just broke up with my partner who was non binary. I don’t want to be confused with some way to still feel connected to them instead of what I truly feel. But it was my first experience dating non binary. I’m at a loss. Should I just give it a try and try to explore myself or should I give myself some time to heal from the break up first
Old guy trying to understand all this. As suggested by the video, I thought about when my gender would change and I came up with two examples. Babies and puppies. When I am with either, I seem to fully inhabit the feminine. My voice goes up in pitch, softens, and has far more inflection. My aggressive and competitive instincts melt away and I become nurturing, more loving, and far more tender. My protective instincts shift from being more geared towards eliminating threats to self-sacrifice. Other situations can cause shifts like this, too, but I think those shifts are most pronounced with puppies and babies.
I have struggled heavily all my life being bio female, but being masculine in nature. I had a boy name and a girl name before I was born and in some strange, headcanon way, that might've triggered something in me. I wasn’t exactly "bullied" for my boyish nature (I learned later I was bullied for my mental issues), but I did notice as I grew up, I didnt have any friends. Girls avoided me because I was a brute and guys avoided me because I was a "girl" and thats all they saw. I think it was in middle school I heard the term "tomboy" aka "a girl that acts like a boy" (in the simplest of terms to a kid) and THAT became my label. I still hold that label to this day, but learning that genderfluid is more or less the same (depending on mood, events, etc), I felt like "Genderfluid" was the official label to put on my gender. Im still a bio female, but I can answer to any pronoun/gender nickname (dude, bro, bestie, sis, girl, etc), keep my hair short (my hair long is a NIGHTMARE to maintain!), love men's clothes especially t-shirts, and holy crap the video games and horror movies I have see/played in my lifetime?! But I have noticed as I got older that I like to wear certain jewelry, like fruity alcoholic drinks (although I can drink straight vodka but haven't in years), like to write romance fiction, and online browse/shop. Yeah, I'm Genderfluid. Thank you for this video. Ive struggled for awhile to figure out if I was Genderfluid or not, but thanks to you, I figured it out.
This is ME ME ME!! Finally… in my 60s… I’m gender fluid and so PROUD of it! (However, my husband who’s older, is not so accepting of this) Thank you for this, as you are now my new “mentor”!! Ps. Love your style! 👏🏼👏🏼🌈❤️
YES! I’m still learning… I have a non-binary kid who has really helped me in my growth. I have a HARD time fully stepping into the real ME, tho, bc of my heteronormative relationship. There’s judgement, and some other unkind stuff going on. I’m pansexual as well, and it’s hard for me to find queer spaces where I can make like minded friends! Thanks again… your acknowledgement means ALOT✌🏼🥹
@@LorriSulpizioThe terms 'cis', and 'binary' don't reflect my lived experience and yet you think it's appropriate to define me and other people in those sexist terms.
Thank you for your excellent video of describing how you feel about being gender non binary/genderfluid. I only recently found out that that label fits me (not fan of "labels" in General!) and makes me feel so comfortable as I have never felt before in my life as a "woman". I have always known that I was different and not being one or the other but I think I said it the first time one day after lunch with a colleague to him. It was a sentence like "I don't think I am a real woman" and me hearing myself saying that and meaning it felt like unveiling a piece of art. After my discovery of being non binary so many signs came to my mind that I have actually been that for all of my life and maybe an explanation also why I find it so hard to be in a relationship under a strictly heteronormative set of "rules"... What I did find confusing though was that I have more physical femaie features than male and that it is basically my brain that is wired "male" - and for that being unsure if my feeling non binary is "valid" and would be accepted within the lgbtq+ community. Because I also do feel comfortable with my female body most of the time and am not against being referred to as "she/her", although I know that there is more to me than that... Your video has given me some more insight in how someone else defines themself and these few minutes have done A LOT in giving me outside validation in feeling how I feel. I particularly liked how you describe being gender fluid and I find that this term describes me even better than just being non binary. So I want to say thank you for helping me on on my own journey and I am excited to watch your interview with Dr. Soh next.
Your interview with Debra was great 💯 I don't get why people attack Debra Soh she's very caring and respectful to trans people...there are much WORSE things being said to Trans people.
From 2010 up until 2022 I was in a homosexual relationship however, near the end of the relationship when my ex-boyfriends' mother passed after a prolonged battle with metastatic pancreatic cancer. Upon receiving the early morning phone call telling us that his mother had passed during the night hours, After that point our relationship started to gradually deteriorate on a progression which steadily worsened over time. but in the last 4 to 5 years of the relationship I started to figure out that I wasn't homosexual,heterosexual or bisexural however I was in fact a young pan-sexual person.
Thank you so much for this video. I was born a biological female. I grew up being teased for acting boyish. I even remember getting a Utah jazz basketball with a hoop .and had only boys as playmates. I had more girl crushes than boys. I used to wear dresses, until i came out as bisexual..and i just stopped being comfortable wearing a dress and girly shoes. I have always felt comfortable and myself when i dressed like a man. I'm gender fluid.
Great talk, I'm going to share with others. This will be an ongoing conversation as we break down the walls needed for all to be welcome at the table. I definitely see the ways in which I've gendered my children, even though I thought I was trying not to. Thanks for your work, I respect you so much!
Your point about all of us maybe being better off as genderfluid aligns quite well with how I feel about polyamory, bi-sexuality (bi hmmm) and neurodiversity.
I'm a cis gay man and I watched this so I can try to better understand my nibling (my sister's child) who identifies as non-binary. I'm not there yet, but thank you, this has helped. I get what you said about us all being gender fluid to a degree, its true there are times I like to be what I'd consider "gayer" but could also be described as feminine yet most of the time I am happy with my masculine life.
This was the most helpful in explaining the terms and addressing some of my issues with the terminology. It is a topic I've always been curious in understanding more of, esp the term non binary. I recently had a queer friend explain it a bit more to me as a personal subjective identification, more than an objective descriptor. This clears that up a bit more. My issue with the nb term has always been bother some to me because it seems like an attempt at rebeling against gender expectations but I feel like it upholds it. I feel that way because I have a belief that we as a society have fought so hard to break down those strict gender roles/expressions and the people that uphold that have always been the weird ones, so the addition of nb as a label always seemed redundant because imo every rational person is nb(switching between masc and fem, i actually also think these terms are obsolete) in one way or the other. I'm seen as a masc person but if you watch me long enough you'll see me be fem in one way or the other, same with all my super macho masc friends, and vice versa with my most feminine friends. With that said the term, nb, seems to create a new distinction and a new goal for those that identify as cis, to fully and "correctly" express their gender. I think it upholds the binary more. I hope i'm wrong and we all just get to a point where gender is seen as irrelevant and we are all gender nonconforming.
Thank you for this video!!! I’m just new to my enby journey (at 41 😂) and you have in one video validated some pretty deeply held understandings I’ve always held for myself. Put words to some complexities I’ve never had words for. I’m so grateful and I look forward to learning more from you.
I am nonbinary, I see thing is this way, biologically there are three sex (female, male and intersex), in the terms of dividing humans from other animals we call young females “girls”, adult females “Woman”, young males “boys”, and adult males “man”, but that’s part of a sintaxis which only meaning isn’t biological, because it’ll be odd just to say that a woman is only a woman because she’s a female, or that a man is only a man because he’s a male, there’s so much more than that, and therefore it enters the “gender”, in which says what makes a woman being a woman, or a man being a man outside of the body they we’re born, how is their core, how they experience girlhood, boyhood, womanhood, and manhood, which roles in society (they decide to take part in), how they express their femininity and masculinity, how they dress, how they act, what they like or not, to embrace their gender, I see being a man and a woman sociologically as something that you learn and if you feel good with it then you embrace it, what I meant to say is that being a man, and a woman, are experiences, to live in the rol of, and being seen as, and feeling as one, something that you learn, and it’s not entirely attached to the biological body, (but still some people might transition to feel better in their own bodies, to match their gender expression). But the thing is that these binary experiences are often damaging not only for man and woman but for other people who doesn’t fit in one part or another, people like me who didn’t had a boyhood/girlhood instead just a childhood, and now an adulthood, sometimes gender can be unfair by the hierarchy in which man are often seen as the ones with more freedom to perform activities, but their gender had also damaged them because of the toxic masculinity, which means to suppress emotions and act often violently within a lack of morals, by the other hand the gender of being a woman contains many beautiful and powerful meanings such as be sensitive and compassionate, but it had also been oppressed and seen as fragile, undefensive and with less rights and opportunities than man, today it’s getting better for man and woman but not all around the world, like in Pakistan in which being born as female involves to having the gender of a woman and instantly they dehumanize them… it’s something horribly unfair and inhuman. Personally as one human who’s part of the IGBTQ+ community, I hope that one day we acknowledge that sex isn’t something that binary, there’s sex divergency like intersex people, not only males and females, and perhaps one day we won’t be categorizing ourselves as man, woman, boy, girl, and just humans, children, the same and equal, or perhaps if binary gender keeps existing it’ll be up to anyone to decide and express it the way they want and if they don’t feel like being part of the binary gender, then being free to express and develop and be themselves, because everyone is different and therefore express different, each mind is an entire universe. If perhaps one day this comes true I think that it’ll be the best, and gender dysphoria could disappear since everyone will be free to be acknowledged as human beings instead of an stereotype, self understanding and love for others would be what makes us respect the expressions of others and embrace our selves, at the end, every time I se another person I don’t mind if it’s a man, I don’t mind if it’s a woman, or any other gender, I see a human who’s capable to do grate things, someone who’s life matters as much as every other living being, someone who’s an equal, someone who has good things and bad things, and it’s own way of expression, it’s own way of understanding the world around them, it doesn’t matter what they do, as long as they aren’t hurting anyone, they’ll be great human beings.
How do we make statistics when genders are involved? New genders appear everyday it seems and that creates a problem if we are to address a statistic where gender is applied. An example could be a statistic covering Covid-19 cases involving gender. How will these be done now that we keep getting more and more genders? Or are everyone, when it comes to a statistic where gender is a factor still putting themselves into a male or female category based on the fact if the have a uterus or not?
You're so right about it being hard to measure gender. I think this is where the fact that we confuse and exchange gender and sex becomes a problem. When we think about medical research, I think we're talking more about biological sex. Gender is our expression of being man or woman and feeling that maybe you fall somewhere in between. I think we need to get clear on the way we use these terms so that we can better think about medical research, understanding our biological bodies, etc. Thank you for your comment.
@@LorriSulpizio Oh i am not stating its hard to determine gender. I am asking the ones that have put themselves into a 'category' of gender where they look when they study a medical statistic where male and female are the only options.
I disagree with Dr. Lorri Sulpizio's overbroad definition of sex. The male/female binary has been in animals for millions of years. And as we all should know, humans are animals. Even some intersex individuals can frequently be identified by their base sex. It may very well be true that the evolutionary process has produced generalized ways in which humans behave as males or females. However, people also act and behave based upon so many different factors including their individual innate personality and the expectations of the culture in which they live. It should be remembered that scientists who study the brain don't even understand consciousness and debates rage on whether human behavior is determined or whether humans have free will. Scientists also seem no closer in understanding whether being male or female effects human behavior. In addition, over thousands of years, cultures have policed the sexual behavior of males and females with procreation in mind. All these factors go into what any given culture expects from males and females. And a person can only be gender nonconforming to the extent their culture has created sex-based behavioral limitations. Fortunately, the more a society is free, the wider the range of human behavior is allowed. However, there is a postmodern philosophy of gender, which Dr. Lorri Sulpizio is eloquently expressing in this video, with the idea that there is no true gender, but merely gender fluidity. It creates a philosophical gender category separate and distinct from sex. I'm just not convinced that it is based in fact. Even the rare person who claims to be transgender/transsexual understands their sex to be discordant with their body. And to varying degrees they attempt to reconcile their gender/sex dysphoria including extensive and dangerous surgeries and taking various medications for life. As to the words: man, woman, boy, girl, the postmodern approach is to deconstruct them. Deconstructionists first build a straw man of stereotypes based upon what a strict society would allow. And then say that anyone at anytime can be authentically male or female or both or neither because gender is actually on some amorphous spectrum of the imagination. The meaning of words become subjective and rendered impotent. As an effeminate gay male, I am a man (an adult human male). No one can take that away from me. My effeminate and frequently androgynous behavior does not diminish my being a male. It is wrong to say that I do not act manly. In fact, I can act no other way since I am biologically a male. I am not gender-fluid; I am not nonbinary. I am myself and this is true even when my culture says otherwise. I agree that each person should be able to behave and act authentically. But, I disagree that we must deconstruct every aspect of life to find our authentic selves. [By the way, I am subscribed to this channel and will continue to be even though I'm not in agreement with Lorri Sulpizio's thoughts on gender. I really enjoyed her interview with Dr. Soh. And I've enjoyed her erudition on other topics as well.]
I appreciate your response and all of your ideas, however, I'm not sure I totally follow your main point about sex. Are you saying sex and gender are the same things? If sex is represented by the body and biology and gender by an expression that is largely socially constructed, how would you differentiate them? Or would you? This whole topic seems like an evolution as we explore how we can break free from the limits of social standards and expectations, mainly around gender and the 'rules' for the sexes. Thanks for your comment.
@@LorriSulpizio I must first say that given this small space to write, I am forced to use overstated conclusions. We all seem to agree that sex refers to the biological categories of males and females. And these differences have a lot to do with human reproduction, including genetics. I was always taught that gender was the polite term for sex since sex also refers to sexual activity. Since the 1970s it appears that gender began to take on a life of "their" own because it now includes two other things: 1. how people identify and 2. how society constructs human behavior and expression. As to society's constructions of how males and females act, interact and dress, I don't see a difference in the meaning of the words gender/sex. You mention that society constructs gender expression. In other words, it seems that you saying that society constructs how people are to properly express themselves as males and females, or based upon their sex. How they express their sex. An interesting article I stumbled across from 2005 entitled, Sex and Gender: What is the Difference, is: journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/japplphysiol.00376.2005. It argues for scientists to use sex when discussing the biology of human and animal subjects and to use gender when referencing self-identity or social representation of an individual. I'm not completely opposed to this distinction if we are truly using scientific methodology. My main concern is how is it possible for a person to identify as a male or as a female or as both or as neither, the so-called gender spectrum. These gender beliefs or imaginings seem to be the result of dissatisfaction with societal constructs of sex or what you reference as gender although the constructs are rooted in human reproduction. I do not think it wise to start the foundation of belief with a philosophical construct based solely upon the acceptance of human imagination or human testimonial.
@@LorriSulpizioYou're not breaking free of them by defining everyone in terms of them, including in policy and law. The ideology you're pushing is sexist and regressive, not a revolution. Also, I believe the commenter above was referring to your conflation of intersex conditions with an alternate sex, which is false. Intersex conditions are a group of medical conditions which are in themselves dependent on the fact that there are two sexes. Only males can have Xxy Syndrome, only females can have Turner Syndrome, for example. But even if there was an alternate sex, or even if sex is not black and white, your logic fails. First, because then how can a person even be 'cis', 'trans', 'binary' or 'nonbinary' if these concepts are based in the idea that we have a 'gender' that either 'matches' or 'mismatches' our sex? And second, who said we have a 'gender' anyway, regardless of our biology Patriarchy did. Problematic. I'm not sure what kind of doctor you are, but you're allowing a highly problematic ideology to infuence and distort your critical thinking.
8:14 I feel the same, I categorize myself as female instead of woman in biological terms, because woman doesn’t just have a biological meaning but a sociological one, united with the gender, and personally my body looks androgynous, there are things I would like to change with exercise and a good diet so that I could look a bit more masculine, using clothing that I like to express myself, a haircut as well, choose my pronouns and name, from now I use binders (safe binding), but maybe one day I could have a top surgery to feel better with my body since having a flat chest is something I’ve always wanted, and perhaps training my voice so it could be more masculine. (This might seem part of the procedure that some trans man takes since my expression is in part non binary and masculine, which is the definition of demoboy), but that’s just my experience.
Thank you, I'm starting to feel closer to being more free, why should I commit to being male in my life? It's such a tiresome thing to try and fit in and keep up appearances.
It is great that there are more nonbinary, genderfluid people as they delute in agood sense the rigid expectation about how a women or men should behave, dress....in my male neighbours I still observe considering a woman who is inferior to a man, and holding her breath waiting to get attention from a man....I am not holding my breath that is for sure ..haha, i talk to men, women equally, im asexual, androgen autistic, I feel like a neutral female with a male brain...anyway, the point is to be a decent human being
I am on the autism spectrum too. I do the whole INFJ/ENFJ typical stuff, which is all atypical. What I heard was people on the spectrum are 11 times more likely to be gender non conforming or trans. So, nature gave us a clue. Now we are tasked with bringing the Nero typical people up to speed. LOL! This should be interesting.
No. You guys are upholding, reinforcing and perpetuating the rigid sex stereotypes and expectations imposed onto girls, women, boys and men. You've chosen to be a part of the problem, not the solution. Your own words are clear evidence of that.
the society develops and exists because people learned and became really good at coexisting with each other, people always have put society first. Society gives an evolutionary advantage to people. It gives groups more possibilities to survive. Nowadays western ideology of putting the personality first, came to its limits, now people put first Their needs and confort above society and they are not ready to tolerate Any personal disconfort and they are ready to destroy the society and world only because they to feel more confortable. Grace to insitutions, society and technology, people have delegated multiple problems and now they have time to care about inner confort and stability more, because other problems are solved. They have food, they have a house, security. So now when the organism have less to care about, it starts to look for other irritant factors. But in this environment it is easy to forget that society create the pillars on which personality stands, so you can never put personality first and you should always respect society.
Thank you! This was helpful in understanding the language floating around these days, and I’m sure I’ll watch it at least a couple more times. Personally, I’ve often been told “you think like a guy” or even “you’re such a guy.” But I’ve always been SAFE as me (cis f) and don’t worry about other people labeling me for their convenience.
@@helenbuller2829 I appreciate your words. And I love that you feel safe with yourself. I’ve always felt that as well, and I’ve been trying to understand why certain people can find that safety as a way to maybe help others do the same.
The vast majority, if not all, societies in the history of mankind follow natural sexual dymorphism. Even the ones that have a 3rd gender understand that the base "genders" are 2. Therefore, it's safe to conclude that "non-binary", "gender fluid" are unnatural and most likely personality disorders, an incapacity to perceive boundaries between sexes or accept their natural sexes. Of course we can have a mix of masculine and feminine behaviors but the vast majority of people closely associate with their natural sex with no confusion, little fluidity and don't spend their lives non-conforming. You also clarified that "gender" is an unnecessary word, gender = sexual expression. You said sex is non-binary, but 2 and only 2 sexes are necessary and sufficient to make human babies, and therefore, sex is not a spectrum or non-binary. A defective nail or screw isn't in the spectrum of nails and screws, it's just a defective piece. Scientists and doctors recognize malformations, developmental defects, syndromes for this reason, they're exceptions, they're not part of a "spectrum" in the same way being conjoined isn't part of a spectrum of how human individuals are.
Thank you! And for those cultures with a “third gender”, the vast majority of those are just applying feminine gender roles to males who aren’t stereotypically masculine. There has to be a binary for this to be based on. Since they’re based on a binary, that would make them not non-binary, if that makes sense.
One thing about being "male" or "female" is that one doesn't have to make an announcement (he/him, she/hers) to others, so....my question is why can't we just be, without the use of labels, and the attention getting tactic of announcing it. That being said if you are inclined to use a pronoun that is different than your outward appearance please by all means let me know, but if you appear as a man and use the typical pronouns he/him you don't have to announce it, and if you do I am inclined to think you are virtue signaling. That being said I am 65, and a biological female, and basically identify as female, but my whole life I have embraced the masculine parts of myself, and done so without the need or desire to explain it to anyone. When I was in high school I refused to participate in stereotypical female programs, home economics for example. I just am, and embrace what ever part of myself that I am expressing.
What you are saying is the goal, I think.... for us all to just be able to be. The world does have labels and we all use them, and I believe people are trying to find ways to authentically reflect who they are. It's so great that you can embrace whatever part of yourself you are expressing. I am there too now. Thank you for watching and commenting.
it's sad (and a bit narcissistic and distorted) that you seem to believe it's attention-seeking for someone who is basically not you to announce to the world who they are, especially when cis people get to march around declaring who exactly they are and leveraging the power that grants them - gender-variant individuals are well aware of the fact that a majority of cis people don't care at all about their existence - but what makes you think these very same individuals care about performatism to the point they are willing to risk their lives being publicly themselves so they can get attention from cis people? seems like a rather trash consolation prize to me - i hate to break it to you: the cis experience (and the self-importance that seems to go hand-in-hand with it) just doesn't factor into the actual lives of gender-variant folks - we don't all get to simply" be ourselves" because we don't live in a world with social structures that are designed to empower people to be themselves - we have templates of who we are supposed to be and either we fit these metrics or we design our own - tell the people who are comfortable with the power their labels give them to drop their labels (and see how, indeed, important labels are to a vast majority of people)
@@LorriSulpizioNo. We don't all use these labels. *You* do. Not only do you use them for yourselves, but you impose them onto other people against our will and then have the nerve to claim that it's 'us' exerting power and control over you. Please. If you reject sex roles and stereotypes then reject them and just be yourself, as girls, women, gays, lesbians and other progressives have been doing for hundreds of years now. Don't buy into the very system that oppresses you and everyone else and then cry victim. That's not progress. It's just narccicism.
@@GranolaMwiinga I mean being who you truly are at your core. Not based on other peoples expectations or social standards, but discovering who you are at your true essence and living life out from that place.
Seems like we can drop the confusing concept of “gender” and just stick to sex. What gets called “gender” is sex-based stereotypes and feelings/desires/beliefs people have regarding their own sex and the sex-based stereotypes. It’s all about sex.
might want to take secular coursework in history and biology at a university you may be from some culture that bijects gender to a non-medical reduction of sexual reproductive role, or one that is primitive enough to conflate sexual dimorphism with behavioral identity and expressions (despite said traits not being sex based and empirically proven to not have anatomical requirements), but your system is not universal in scientific literature we are going to continue to observe and report on what humans do in material reality, including the nuances of their social constructs, rather than how some group wants humans to act or self categorize if that makes you insecure, you can keep using your own rituals and practices. you are not required or expected to move past indoctrinated ethnocentrism or to understand these STEM topics. those of us that do understand it aren't going to drop it just because it confuses your people...
@@RM-xr8lq what, in particular, am I getting wrong? “Gender” has no consistent meaning and has devolved into nonsense. An analysis of the history of the term shows how it started off as a term that referred to language (ie, German language has three genders) then became a euphemism for sex for squeamish Americans. Then Dr Money introduced his madman experiments. And then Butler came along. What is missing in replacing the word gender with more precise and accurate terms all based on sex as I suggest above? Odd that you resort to personal attacks . If I said something false, just point out specifically what I got wrong.
@@RM-xr8lq you are confusing ‘gender’ for ‘sex-based stereotype’. Different cultures have different sex-based stereotypes. This is true. Ethnocentrism is to deny that fact; i do not. Gender ideology, which is anti-science, holds that there is some magical thing, called ‘gender’, which they can’t define non-circularly, and which can magically be ‘aligned with’ sex, but is not sex and not merely a sex-based stereotype. So perhaps point out if and where I’m wrong. Define gender (non-circularly), define sex, and the relation between the two. Sadly, gender ideologues social justice warriors such as yourself have problems with basic definitions. Like theology, everything is a mystery.
@@RC-qf3mp when studying general humans from a secular perspective, gender is referring to a mode of identity and expression contextual to the individual and culture they are being examined under. some cultures do not allow self-identifying gender since it is assigned externally, so an individuals gender identity may not match their perception by others. other cultures do not consider gender static, so it is not an issue to change it this is separate from the physical anatomy of a person that sex generally refers to, which is either a boolean referencing a dichotomized model of human reproductive role (ignoring the null value/intersex), or just a collection of primary and secondary sexual characteristics (e.g. some studies might look at hormone levels and other attributes for a more direct correlation than simply “sex”). some aspects of “sex” (when using the latter definition) can be dynamic, and there is quite a lot of overlap in general, so you might hear it referred to as a bimodal distribution labeling a person from the bugis society only by anatomical “sex”, and labeling an hijra only by sex, does not tell you the same knowledge as using both sex and a separate category for gender. those two cultures do not have the same categories for gender, and do not assign them in the same way. using your suggestion of “dropping gender and just stick to sex” results in information loss. there is little consistency in the mapping of “sex-gender” across different human societies, especially when considering modern LGBT sub-populations where expectations are thrown out the window thus any correlation between sex and gender is (a) inconsistent across different human groups and (b) insufficient to accurately transform from one to the other without data loss, hence why they are seen as distinct. this discussion is mostly an issue in a language like English, where they have decided to use these two same words in vastly different ways across their media and academic literature. ignoring their etymology, and instead seeing “sex” and “gender” as “fieldA” and “fieldB” relating to the above meanings, it should be obvious why you might want to keep both those data fields for analysis
I thought that clothes were a social concept. so why people who are "free" want to wear a dress to feel more "female" (or vice-versa)? If we invent new genders, it would be great to also invent new clothing styles and colors etc for each gender. Also, I'm wondering, what does "female expression" or "female characteristics", "female space" exactly mean? You talk about fluidity and freeing women from social concepts, yet, using terms that are social concepts.
Exactly! You make great points. We have to have language in order to speak about ideas and have conversations, but even our language is limiting. 100%. The problem with languages that we can’t escape the social concepts that are associated with words without making new words, and that’s difficult in and of itself. So complex this issue is!
The United States is a free country and founded in individual rights. Call yourself whatever you like and live your life however you like as long as you are doing no harm to someone else. But this issue has no solution that would satisfy the trans community. And I’m sorry to say that this issue simply does not affect enough people to be seen as “urgent” to the general population. As long as you are not persecuted you have to live your life the way you want and don’t expect everyone else to really care that much about this.
The syllogism "I am a biological male; I feel like I'm a biological female; therefore, I'm a biological female" is not logically sound because it commits the fallacy of equivocation. The term "biological male" refers to a person who has male reproductive organs and chromosomes, while "biological female" refers to a person who has female reproductive organs and chromosomes. However, in the second premise, the term "feel like a biological female" is not well-defined and may mean different things to different people. It could refer to gender identity, which is a subjective experience of feeling like a man or a woman, or it could refer to gender expression, which is the way in which a person presents themselves in society. Thus, the argument equivocates on the meaning of "biological female," and the conclusion does not follow logically from the premises. The conclusion is not supported by the premises because feeling like a biological female does not change a person's biological sex. While gender identity is an important aspect of a person's self-concept and should be respected, it is distinct from biological sex and should not be confused with it.
Your syllogism is a strawman because trans women aren't saying "I feel like a biological female." They're saying "I am a woman." These aren't the same. The latter isn't a claim to have ovaries or two x chromosomes, it's the expression of a deeply felt desire to live the life of a woman-- to the extent that they can socially and within the obvious limits of biology.
@@SAMathlete Evaluate the following syllogism. I am a biological man. I have a deeply felt desire to live my life as a woman. Therefore I am a woman. The syllogism you presented is not logically valid. While you have stated that you are a biological man and that you have a deeply felt desire to live your life as a woman, it does not logically follow that you are a woman based solely on these two premises. Gender identity is a complex and personal matter, and it's not solely determined by biological sex or desires. Gender identity is self-identified, so if you identify as a woman, you may choose to do so, but the syllogism itself does not provide logical proof of that identity.
@@SAMathleteThere's no particular way to live as a woman other than to be born female and grow into an adult. For all your claims of challenging sex roles and stereotypes you guys only reinforce and perpetuate them. This ideology is pure sexism, and as such a selfish indulgence that comes at the expense of other people's right to be free of sex stereotyping, which is sexism.
@@jjjccc728 We're talking past each other. Since you're keen on logic and stamping out equivocation, I'll lend a hand. Male/female is a term to describe sex and is used for many species besides ours. Man/woman would not be used for any species besides ours because they are terms to describe the human social phenomenon of gender. They've been conflated historically and are synonyms in some dictionaries, but they describe different phenomena. That's why there is a recent effort to emphasize them as distinct terms. So for someone who accepts the sex/gender distinction, some of the phrases you've strung together are incoherent ("biological man") or are redundant ("biological female"). With that out of the way, my evaluation of your syllogism is that the first premise is nonsense and could be removed without affecting the argument. We are left with "I have a deeply felt desire to live my life as a woman. Therefore I am a woman." That's almost a tautology in my book, but I'd personally add the requirement that they are outwardly expressing their desire through actions as well. Meaning, they are performing their gender, not merely desiring to be that gender. If it helps, consider this analogous syllogism "This is a hardcover book. This book follows tropes of science fiction. Therefore this book is science fiction." Do you see how we can do away with the first sentence there? It's a non sequitur. It doesn't pertain to the argument unless you bring in an assumption from culture that sci fi is only ever printed in cheap paperback editions.
@@Mel-wn9gb I don't know who your "you guys" is referring to. But anyway, I'm all for individual liberty and autonomy. I'm all for people's prerogative to defy cultural stereotypes and sex roles without consequence. Hell, I'm such a radical that I would even support someone's desire to conform to a cultural script about gender if it made them happy and was their own free choice. I wouldn't accuse such a person of perpetuating sex roles and stereotypes unless they had a limiting belief about themselves because of their gender and thus feel that they are compelled to behave or present a certain way. That's internalized sexism, for sure. And it happens. But it can't be the case that all gendered performances are sexist merely because they seem to reinforce the same gendered performances. Or what? Do I have to avoid all actions that someone considers stereotypical of my gender to avoid trampling on other people's right to be free of sex stereotyping? It seems like that's a false dilemma. We could have both. I can be gender-conforming and you could be gender nonconforming and we could live in harmony together. Wanna try?
I’ve been ugly, beautiful crying because I’m feeling I need to label myself. Right now, I say I’m a non-binary lesbian with they/he/she pronouns. I’m going to explore that gender-fluid is more me. I love being masc presenting…but also see my bio as a woman. But then I like her femmes and unfortunately mis-assume they want me more masc. I just want to be authentically me.
To anyone who believes in gender fluidity or ambiguity, I have a couple of questions. Start with a 25 year old woman, who was born a woman. Let's say she wants to get pregnant would you think she has a fair chance of getting pregnant? If she finds she is having trouble getting pregnant would you recommend she consider going to a fertility Dr? Now we take a 25 year old "woman" who was born a man. Let's say "she" wants to get pregnant would you think "she" has a fair chance of getting pregnant? If "she" finds "she" is having trouble getting pregnant would you recommend "she" consider going to a fertility Dr?
In the German language their is no real distinction between sex and gender we only really have the word sex but there we kinda just go and say biological-sex and social-sex and I mean thats it it´s a social construct gender roles are a social or societal construct I mean they don´t really exist. I like the part about describing yourself I personally don´t have a ton of direct connection to this topic but I still wanna learn something and this being about authenticity and describing yourself seems interesting to me. I feel like that could be a good argument to some more conservative people I know that have lets say problems with a lot of things including gender. Also btw I totaly support this revolution if it makes people happy then yeah why not. No one is getting harmed here so I don´t see how people are against this also good quick explanation thanks vor the video.
1. Two sexes 2. No genders 3. Infinite personalities Sex is a binary, literally, sperm and ova. Secondary sex characteristics ( Adams apple, breasts, hip width, etc) can exist on a spectrum of sorts, but they are SECONDARY SEX CHARACTERISTICS. It’s true we need to be more open to breaking down expected gender roles, stereotypes etc. People should be free to live as they want. Men can be masculine or feminine in their presentation, women can be feminine or masculine in their presentation. But it doesn’t require a vast array of incoherent gender identity philosophies. Its a simple concept, made continuously complex, incoherent and non-parsimonious by current gender ideology.
I like your approach to gender as it applies each person. I happen to have been born with sexual development as a male that was incomplete in so much as during the earliest weeks of gestation my germs cells failed to reach my gonads. thus on testis failed to develop at all as a testis, remaining as a ovotestis. The other testis did develop as a testis but really never fully matured to full size as an adult. I was able to preform somewhat as a male and have been married for many many years.. I have toyed many years as seeking out the female side of my persona. If that were not enough I had to have many surgeries as a child because of my intersex body development. As an adult I did develop almost stage four testicular ovarian cancer. in addition I had many mature germ cell teratoma. One was malignant and the rest were not. The largest of these was 17.5cm. It was found that I carry the gene for ovarian and breast cancer. So wish to seek out so form of MTF transition with estrogen would not be a good idea as this could cause my cancer to return. Interesting is even though I only now have one poorly developed and operating testis my estrogen levels are high. Im not sure of my bodies way of producing this but it clear something is going on.
I'm a man. My room as a child was NOT filled with cars because I wasn't into that. Not everyone is so into these arbitrary rules. There has been pushback against these arbitrary rules since the 60s, however, the trans movement is bringing back these horrible stereotypes. I beg trans radical activists stop trying to push us back to the 1950s.
My friend likes to wear a baby bonnet, and carry a rattler. He also claims to be teething, and asks random women if they will nurse him and push him around in a baby stroller. Worst of all he says he's not potty trained and wears diapers
Your friend sounds like an interesting person. I’m not sure if there’s any relevance to your comment or if you might have a question. But I appreciate you watching the video and then sharing with everybody about your friend.
I thought this was a good video and I could really relate to it. I never really fit in the woman box but I'm not gay or want to be a man per se. I just really hate how society has to label everything, when in labling then there's a prioritization and expectation that goes along with it. I can say with a certainty that I don't like women's roles in society and i have always viewed it as a slave status. I always wondered how much of my gender fluidity was due to the fact that I don't want to be considered a second-class citizen or deficient or underestimated 🤷
It was the feminist movement that brought 'gender' to the public conversation. The current ideology is the backlash to that progress. Rather than challenge and reject the arbitrary sex stereotypes and roles imposed onto each sex, you've bought into them by defining all girls, women, boys and men in terms of them. These ideas are the entire problem. You're dragging us all backwards.
Gender and sex are used interchangeably because they are synonyms. Every English dictionary and thesaurus has said so for centuries. The sex variations she mentioned still result in male and female. As for gender... “Gender is sometimes defined as...” “...this is often related...” “I like to define...” This is not a concrete description. The purpose of this “movement” is for an extremely small minority to compel the vast majority to change their understanding of language and science in order to adopt their beliefs. Dr. Sulpizio just likes to change her style of dress; she’s not changing genders. The social elements she describes are gender roles, not genders themselves. I am pleased to see that she at least acknowledges that she is a female.
Agreed, lots of mistakes in this video: "Sex isn't binary": yes it is, it only takes 2 sexes to make babies "Gender is an expression": then no need for the word gender, just say sexual expression
Dictionaries aren't arbiters of truth, they just describe how we have been using words. So it does no good to argue that sex and gender must be synonyms because they have always been so. About 20 years ago, a common argument against gay marriage followed this same strategy. Just because it was common to define "marriage" as between a man and a woman doesn't mean we have to abide by that just because Merriam Webster says so. Likewise, if there is a compelling argument to alter the definition of "gender", then we can change it without reservations about dictionaries' traditional definitions.
@@SAMathlete There's no compelling argument to change the definition of 'gender' to mean the regressive, sexist bullshit that you're pushing. Women, gays, lesbians and other progressives have been explaining why for hundreds of years now. Catch up.
No. Gender expression is the way we express ourselves. Gender includes that, but also roles, identity and probably other stuff I've forgotten. I agree that it would be healthier if everyone was able to express themselves without the constraints of gender norms, but you really think folk should identify as non-binary? Identity is not really a choice. If it was, trans folk wouldn't exist.
Why can’t we just all be gender fluid & not have to label it? Just be you & dress how you want? However, I just don’t agree that a person can change their biological sex & then all of a sudden be a man or a woman by removing or adding certain body parts & taking hormones. What happens when a young kid before puberty does all these things to try & change their gender & then they realize they made a mistake & now they have destroyed their bodies & can’t undo the damage 😳😩😱😭😭
I very much agree with you. It would be great if we could just be an address how we want. And you bring up important considerations when thinking about making a significant transition like gender. I appreciate your comment.
I cried hearing you describe how you identify and explaining everything because it made me feel more seen and like i belong as a person more than ive felt in a long time and finally gave me the confidence to say that i am nonbinary/genderfluid. And that its okay. i dont have to be anything i dont want to be or that i simply am not. im really nervous and scared because my family doesnt understand these kinds of things and they hate seeing me as anything other than a feminine girl, but ive decided i want to be real and happy and that means being who i genuinely am around my family too. im going to come out to everyone when im ready and can see them all in person. Thank you for being a part of this community and helping so many people like myself. i hope you have a beautiful life.
I love this. You are so brave. I think being who we authentically are is one of the hardest things, but it also is one of the most rewarding. Stay true to you!
Thank u for sharing . Wish u the best ❤
A girl is a female human being, not a 'feminine' human being. That's just sex stereotyping. When you claim that you must not be a girl or woman because you don't conform to 'femininity' you buy into the very system that oppresses girls and women and become a part of the problem. You don't have to pretend or claim to be something else just to be who you are. Just be who you are - a female human being in all your complexity, diversity and individuality - just like everyone else. Don't box us all in via the limiting, narrow, oppressive concept of 'gender'.
@@Mel-wn9gb I don’t say this…others do. I am fully aware that I am a woman. It’s other’s who get confused (based on sex stereotyping)
@@LorriSulpizio By calling yourself 'nonbinary' you're claiming that 'woman' equates to 'femininity' and you're not that so you must not be a woman. That's what sex stereotyping *is* .
I'm in my 40s and all of this makes so much sense about my identity. I've carried shame for years from other's criticisms that I was "a little too masculine" or "not girly enough." Deep down I've always felt pretty neutral about my gender. I just thought I "should" be more feminine. I wish more older generations were open to exploring their own identity. This journey of healing is going to be so empowering for me...thank you Dr. Lorri!
I’m so glad. We do put a lot of constraints on ourselves based on the message we get from society. Better late than never to find freedom and live out your life in a way that feels authentic. Cheers to you!
Older generations challenged the sexism underlying the concept of 'gender' decades ago. This current ideology is the backlash to that progress. The older generations were actually progressive.
I was born as a biological man and live openly as non-binary bigender. My biggest problem is not language or clothing or toilets. My biggest problem are people who act out their transphopia on me and insult me or try to hurt me though I am a peaceful compassionate human being.
They are the ones who are uncomfortable therefore the problem is theirs not yours unless they become abusive.
Truth isn't transphobic, it's just the truth.
You are a what u born/ you mind has a problem
So you want special toilers ???
I identify as a man, but I like to dress some women’s clothes while still trying to fly under the radar. My wife doesn’t like it so I’m kind of restricted as to how feminine I can go. I’m not looking to wear a dress and high heels but I would like to be able to wear womens clothing on the edge of androgyny
It happens to me as well
I feel sorry for your wife..
Disgusting!!!
@@HelderGriff BECAUSE YOUR ALSO A FREAK!!
Its sad you can't feel free.. As long as you love your wife and you are not attracted to other people and you are honest with her (Maybe that's what she is afraid of and need reassurance? ) I think you should dress the way you want... I would accept that if I had a boyfriend who was loving and loyal to me and wanted to wear a dress.. I think communication and honesty towards oneself and the other person involved is crucial...
We are an OSDD system with autism. Our brain is gender fluid. We have spend the last few years struggling with agoraphobia and disordered eating. We appreciate your existence! Thank you for bravely sharing your wisdom and understanding with the world. One rainbow at a time. 🤘🔥🧠
Thank you for watching the video and taking the time to come in. I appreciate you.
This is very educational... Thanks for clearing this up... I feel like I identify as a Nonbinary, but I don't really care to be considered a They/Them, or a He/She... I'm just myself and body is female, but I don't feel either masculine or feminine.
This video gave me chills. I'm not in a place where I can comfortably present myself the way I would like to, but hearing that it's okay to do so brought me a lot of joy. Thank you
same! it was really relieving to hear :)
I'm a cis man and I really enjoyed this video. I'm fascinated with the different ways that people live their lives and all the different kinds of people out there. You're video was very educational, thank you.👍
Cis 58 yo female here. Yes. I was curious why so many young people are declaring their pronouns these days, so I Googled it and found this very helpful video. When I was in college for art and theatre in the early 80s, my wide circle of friends included a whole, complex spectrum of genders. We just didn’t worry about how other people defined us.
Cis man? So your a man. There's no such thing as "cis" anything
@@Dibious thanks for watching!
Three comments..
1) Lorrie, I'm so grateful for this video and your interview if Dr. Soh. I've learned so much from you, and really appreciate your perspective and interest in clarity.
2) For me, the semantics distinguish between gender identity (our internal sense, which is probably biological) and gender expression (acts we take, probably based on interpretation of gender identity). This leads me to wonder though how much our subjective interpretation of gender identity is influenced by social constructs and stereotypes.
3) I am man with a nurturing, collaborative nature but have never thought of that as feminine or experience any sense of self that wasn't male. Can't I think of those traits as within the range of a male gender identity? Could it be that rather than gender being the social construct, it's our culturally based stereotypes on what we imagine male or female identity and behavioral interests feels like?
I LOVE what you are saying. And YES! I wish for my sons to be nurturing and collaborative and have that just be a part of who they are as a man. Could it even be possible to get rid of the 'like a man' and 'like a woman' constructs?
Well, why do you think those culturally based stereotypes exist and why are they so similar across cultures? Maybe because many of them are somewhat biologically driven? Even colors, although which one is M/F is arbitrary (blue/pink), seem to be a way to recognize the binary separation of sex.
It's a huge mistake to think that culture is entirely made up and not grounded in biology. Even computer software is somewhat tied to the hardware. It's healthy to recognize and accept our biology.
What is the "range of male gender identity" if you don't consider the feminine range? What's outside the male range? Male gender identity only makes sense if you have an opposite, a contrast. There's only a range if there are boundaries. And the boundaries are male/female.
@@johnc3525 I don't think op was saying that there is no binary male or female. I think he was trying to say that while there is socially understood characteristics that make up these two binary things, that outside of these binary characteristics is a range of male, female, and other. I personally exist in the other category, which to me is not due to how I act or how I choose to present myself. It is because of something in my brain that makes me feel differently than just male or female, girl or boy. While culture does have something to do with biology at least somewhat, as I agree, culture is not entirely made up, but I think it is silly to believe that everything, even our stereotypes associated with culture such as assigning colors of all things to genders. I feel its a slippery slope to believe that culture is biological because within that culture is stereotypes, gender stereotypes, racial stereotypes, and more which isn't biological but societal beliefs that may OR MAY NOT have ANYTHING to do with the biology of the individuals involved.
@@dogsarecute2714 Likewise, it's a slippery slope to believe that culture is purely made up and completely disconnected from biology/reality.
@@LorriSulpizioNot while you keep reinforcing them.
I never really felt like a "full woman" or "full man". I am shaped like a woman with the skull shape of a man. I enjoy "woman" characteristics and "male" characteristics. I used to hate my male side because I thought it would make me a "lesser woman". There are days were I'm super girly and days I'm acting super manly. I sometimes prefer all pink/purple and sometimes all blue/green. One day I enjoy wearing men's perfume and another day I wanna smell like roses. I sometimes go through the women's clothing section and I'm in love with everything. Another day I avoid it like a plague and fall in love with the men's section.
I always thought that this state makes me nothing but a weirdo. Hoping one day I'll be a "proper woman". But today I talked with a friend. I recently realized I might be pan and he also said he has the same "issue". I talked about my gender issue and he jokingly brought up the question "What if your future partner called you a he/dude one day?"... The thought made me happy. But I'm also happy being called a she.
I don't know if this makes me gender fluid.. But ever since he brought that up I've been questioning myself so hard haha
I find this hard to wrap my head around. It seems to me that gender norms are reinforced by this ideology rather than broken down.
Thanks for the comment. I’d love to hear more about your ideas around this.
@@LorriSulpizioIt's obvious. You correctly observed that society limits girls, women, boys and men via sex roles, stereotypes and expectations, but instead of rejecting that you turned around and defined all of us in those terms - as 'cis', 'trans', 'binary' and 'nonbinary'. 'Gender' is the entire problem. Ideologies that uphold, reinforce and perpetuate it are therefore not the solution.
I think at this point it's just a problem of semantics. We can disagree about labels and wording while still supporting people's rights and freedoms.
There are already gender norms and this is to allow for more expression in a world that often simply puts people in 2 distinct categories.
The issue here is that people were already using words to describe the gender norms and many people were very unseen, not just unseen but ousted from society, sidelined and told they are wrong for existing.
Using words to claim identity can be hugely empowering for people.
I feel great knowing I could choose and explore rather than just have to conform.
As someone born in the ‘70s that now finds themselves married and the father of 2 small children and only now really doing a deep-dive into these subjects, I thank you for the video. As you suggested at the end of the video might be the case, I am already ‘gender-fluid’ and didn’t realize it. Well, maybe I realized it but never thought to really embrace it in a way that challenges myself and helps me to grow. I only wish that these discussions had taken root as I was growing up.
Incidentally, it’s interesting to note that one of the key points of Buddhism has to do with seeing the world through a NON-BINARY lens, resulting in a ‘trans-formative’ worldview embodying release from always feeling the need to judge everything and everyone while neatly compartmentalizing our experiences.
The content of this video is helping to end separation, misunderstanding, demonization, violence, and war.
~ much love
Back in the 60's and 70's and in fact hundreds of years prior, people have been challenging the idea that we have to conform to sex roles and stereotypes. Mostly female people, but also more progressive and gay men. So you didn't miss out on anything. It must've just gone right over your head. Which might explain why you think this current ideology is somehow the revolution, when in fact it's the conservative backlash to that genuine progress. Your last sentence was quite the flourish by the way.
I actually liked your comment a whole lot. :)
I’m so glad I found this video and your channel. I’m just figuring things out in my early fifties. I just came out to myself and my family at 49. This was also the time I was diagnosed as autistic. So many things coming together all at once and my life making so much more sense! I say genderqueer for myself, because I’m still learning myself- I just know I don’t feel like a woman is supposed to even though I’m AFAB, but I don’t feel like a man either. Honestly, just being honest with myself that I wasn’t a cis gender straight woman. I’m also realizing I’m on the ace spectrum too, but even in all the uncertainty, I know I’m on the path to meeting my authentic self and living authentically gives me so much peace. I’ll definitely go check out your previous videos. Thanks for sharing your expertise and experiences with us.
How refreshing to finally hear someone break down and explain these terms in a way that not only makes sense, but seems less threatening. It’s a much better conversation than being force fed these terms, and risk being called phobic when we don’t comply..thanks!
Yeees exactly!!
why would someone else's gender expression (or even them being vocal about it) be threatening? especially when cisgender people are the standard and get to gatekeep critical resources that trans, non-binary, genderqueer, gender fluid, etc. folks may need to survive -
in a world in which cis-ness and heteronormality is exalted to such a degree that nearly everything is tailored around it, gender-variant individuals being vocal about who they are (so they can spread awareness, gain equal treatment, be left alone and co-exist freely in society as is their right) is not force-feeding anybody anything -
and nobody's asking you to comply with anything - again - someone asking you to respect their gender expression, sexual expression, pronouns--whatever it is--(as they do yours) SHOULDN'T be seen as something that takes any ounce of power away from you and it shouldn't be seen as some command - it's a request -
unless of course you're THAT uncomfortable with your own expression or are using it to assert power over other people
@@antwanzhane Men competing in women's sports, using their bathrooms and prisons, being in women's shelters are not trans/gender rights. Your kind want privileges, not rights and your kind are demanding those privileges and taking tons of power away from us.
What critical resources do you need to survive that are taken from you? Food? Water? Housing? Clothes? Again, men competing against women isn't a critical resource.
Gender activists dream of laws forcing people to comply with using "preferred pronouns" and playing along with your gender fantasies. People have been arrested or investigated for saying obvious things like "there are only 2 sexes" or "transwomen aren't women". How's that not forcing, commanding, imposing? I'm not afraid of people like you because of how you dress/look but I'm afraid of what you're doing to society politically.
I'll be saying he and she. Your way is too much work. He, she, they, them.
@@antwanzhane Stop projecting please. You're the ones trying to exert power and control over others by defining us in reference to your personal, ideological beliefs and dictating what they can think, do and say.
A good video, but I would like to add that there should be discussion too about the difference between gender identity and gender expression. The two are not automatically the same thing, and defining gender as "the outward expression of our sex" can be misleading. One can very much be gender fluid, non-binary, agendered, bigendered, etc, but not outwardly appear so. Likewise, one can dress as the "opposite sex" but still identify as cisgendered. There are many reasons why someone may or may not choose to express their gender outwardly, and these reasons are just as complex as gender identity itself. Clothes, hair, makeup and the like are all great tools that can allow us to discover and explore our gender identity, but they aren't necessary for that, and it's good to understand that gender expression is different than gender identity.
So what's 'gender itself'? And why do they call it 'gender expression' if it's not related to 'gender itself'?
As strange as this sounds I feel both genderfluid and non binary.
I'm also under the bi umbrella a bit with pansexual.
Jesus.
@@johnc3525 one word really?
@@davidbezer5011 Sorry, I was just kinda shocked with all those labels.
Doesn't sound strange at all. Genderfluid is a subcategory of nonbinary. Nonbinary is more of an umbrella term for all nonbinary genders, genderfluid, bigender, agender, etc. So if you're genderfluid, then you're also nonbinary.
I resonate with that so much, not gonna lie.
Just because some exceptions exist does not mean that the rule is not valid. Yes , the sex is binary , either male or female. People who have one ovary and one testicle or some kind of am ambiguous genitalia suffer from a medical problem that oftentimes means infertility.
Also hormone levels and the sensitivity your body has (or does not have ) to those hormone levels is going to develop certain traits in your psychology that make you more masculine than feminine in your ways (higher levels of testosterone compared to estrogen OR not higher levels but higher sensitivity to testosterone and lower sensitivity to estrogen ) or more feminine than masculine in your ways ( higher levels of estrogen than testosterone or maybe not higher levels but higher sensitivity to estrogen and lower sensitivity to testosterone).
Estrogen gives you maternal behaviours (makes you more nurturing, soothing , comforting , etc) and testosterone gives you paternal behaviours (makes you more physically tough , protective , and territorial ).
It is pretty simple and not that much of a social construct.
Clothes and haircuts and accessories associated to gender are social constructs that vary from one culture to another.
BUT instinctive male and female behaviours are hormonally based and are pretty much the same in all dymorphic mammals .
Transgender people are an EXCEPTION to the rule and it is good to remember this.
Thank you for this reply. I appreciate your perspective.
I agree. Two sexes are necessary and sufficient to make babies, therefore sex is 100% binary. Like you said well, intersex are usually infertile, which proves they're an anomaly, not part of a spectrum.
I suspect transgenderism is a mental illness and this whole gender confusion are personality disorders that lead to an incapacity to perceive sex boundaries.
If sex is binary, what about intersex people? Having ambiguous genitals does not necessarily mean they have "a medical problem", and I think plenty of intersex people would find that insulting and offensive, which is why they fight to be heard and treated with respect, especially since the medical establishment will try to "correct" their genitals at birth without any consent, under the assumption that's what the baby will grow up to want and also to reinforce these gender constructs.
And what about males who have higher levels of estrogen or females who have higher levels of testosterone? Estrogen and testosterone can have certain effects in people, but I think it's way too simplistic to just say that estrogen = nurturing and testosterone = aggressiveness. What if a male has high testosterone but is extremely nurturing? Or vice versa for a female? It sounds like you're reducing people to their hormones and genitals, which, while those aspects are a part of us, it's much more complex than that and quite reductionistic to do so. There are innumerable factors that can contribute to hormones/hormone levels, etc. So to just look at someone's genitals and automatically assume a correlating hormone or hormone level and then say that that's who the person is or should be and that it's a simplistic, strict binary is harmful and wrong in many ways.
Thanks Doctor. I never questioned my gender and sex cause I fit the norms of society. But as I explore social constructs I wanted to understand each member of our community. I wish everyone watched this.
I’ve come to really appreciate gender nonconforming women, and how they help open up the category in society of how a woman can be for all of us. Thank you!
I don’t need men to “open up” how I am as a woman. Saying sex isn’t non-binary is ridiculous. This male “doctor” is a liar.
Wouldn't it be more consequent to stop assigning traits or behaviour labels like feminine or masculine?
This was super helpful to me! I’ve been trying to figure out which one I am, only recently switching to she/they pronouns, and I have to say I was delighted to hear you describe your gender and relationship to it, as that’s basically mine too. I identify as a woman and am comfortable with that, so I wasn’t sure if that meant I’m not really gender nonconforming. But I think I was right before, that gender fluid describes me best. Thank you for this video!
I always felt like a guy but not full a guy, but not nearly enough to say I resonate with being women either. I’ve thought about where I fall before but ended up just staying known as a guy. Can someone help explain what I should be doing looking into about myself. I do like being feminine sometimes but mostly masculine the rest of the time. I’m not sure if I’m making the right decision atm since I just broke up with my partner who was non binary. I don’t want to be confused with some way to still feel connected to them instead of what I truly feel. But it was my first experience dating non binary. I’m at a loss. Should I just give it a try and try to explore myself or should I give myself some time to heal from the break up first
Old guy trying to understand all this. As suggested by the video, I thought about when my gender would change and I came up with two examples. Babies and puppies. When I am with either, I seem to fully inhabit the feminine. My voice goes up in pitch, softens, and has far more inflection. My aggressive and competitive instincts melt away and I become nurturing, more loving, and far more tender. My protective instincts shift from being more geared towards eliminating threats to self-sacrifice.
Other situations can cause shifts like this, too, but I think those shifts are most pronounced with puppies and babies.
That's not 'femininity'. It's a human response. You're a male human who likes puppies and babies.
I have struggled heavily all my life being bio female, but being masculine in nature. I had a boy name and a girl name before I was born and in some strange, headcanon way, that might've triggered something in me.
I wasn’t exactly "bullied" for my boyish nature (I learned later I was bullied for my mental issues), but I did notice as I grew up, I didnt have any friends. Girls avoided me because I was a brute and guys avoided me because I was a "girl" and thats all they saw. I think it was in middle school I heard the term "tomboy" aka "a girl that acts like a boy" (in the simplest of terms to a kid) and THAT became my label.
I still hold that label to this day, but learning that genderfluid is more or less the same (depending on mood, events, etc), I felt like "Genderfluid" was the official label to put on my gender. Im still a bio female, but I can answer to any pronoun/gender nickname (dude, bro, bestie, sis, girl, etc), keep my hair short (my hair long is a NIGHTMARE to maintain!), love men's clothes especially t-shirts, and holy crap the video games and horror movies I have see/played in my lifetime?! But I have noticed as I got older that I like to wear certain jewelry, like fruity alcoholic drinks (although I can drink straight vodka but haven't in years), like to write romance fiction, and online browse/shop.
Yeah, I'm Genderfluid. Thank you for this video. Ive struggled for awhile to figure out if I was Genderfluid or not, but thanks to you, I figured it out.
This is ME ME ME!! Finally… in my 60s… I’m gender fluid and so PROUD of it! (However, my husband who’s older, is not so accepting of this) Thank you for this, as you are now my new “mentor”!! Ps. Love your style! 👏🏼👏🏼🌈❤️
It’s nice to have language that reflects our lived experience, isn’t it? In many ways it helps us make sense of who we are. 💙
YES! I’m still learning… I have a non-binary kid who has really helped me in my growth. I have a HARD time fully stepping into the real ME, tho, bc of my heteronormative relationship. There’s judgement, and some other unkind stuff going on. I’m pansexual as well, and it’s hard for me to find queer spaces where I can make like minded friends! Thanks again… your acknowledgement means ALOT✌🏼🥹
@@LorriSulpizioThe terms 'cis', and 'binary' don't reflect my lived experience and yet you think it's appropriate to define me and other people in those sexist terms.
Thank you for your excellent video of describing how you feel about being gender non binary/genderfluid. I only recently found out that that label fits me (not fan of "labels" in General!) and makes me feel so comfortable as I have never felt before in my life as a "woman". I have always known that I was different and not being one or the other but I think I said it the first time one day after lunch with a colleague to him. It was a sentence like "I don't think I am a real woman" and me hearing myself saying that and meaning it felt like unveiling a piece of art.
After my discovery of being non binary so many signs came to my mind that I have actually been that for all of my life and maybe an explanation also why I find it so hard to be in a relationship under a strictly heteronormative set of "rules"...
What I did find confusing though was that I have more physical femaie features than male and that it is basically my brain that is wired "male" - and for that being unsure if my feeling non binary is "valid" and would be accepted within the lgbtq+ community. Because I also do feel comfortable with my female body most of the time and am not against being referred to as "she/her", although I know that there is more to me than that...
Your video has given me some more insight in how someone else defines themself and these few minutes have done A LOT in giving me outside validation in feeling how I feel. I particularly liked how you describe being gender fluid and I find that this term describes me even better than just being non binary.
So I want to say thank you for helping me on on my own journey and I am excited to watch your interview with Dr. Soh next.
Does everyone get their own definition of gender?
According to some, yes, to the point that every single person is one gender 🤣🤣
I feel much like a woman before I go to the bathroom, but it's only for number 1. For number 2 I feel much like a man . Could I still use both ?
😂
Your interview with Debra was great 💯
I don't get why people attack Debra Soh she's very caring and respectful to trans people...there are much WORSE things being said to Trans people.
Thank you, Nai. I appreciate her work. Thanks for watching.
From 2010 up until 2022 I was in a homosexual relationship however, near the end of the relationship when my ex-boyfriends' mother passed after a prolonged battle with metastatic pancreatic cancer. Upon receiving the early morning phone call telling us that his mother had passed during the night hours, After that point our relationship started to gradually deteriorate on a progression which steadily worsened over time. but in the last 4 to 5 years of the relationship I started to figure out that I wasn't homosexual,heterosexual or bisexural however I was in fact a young pan-sexual person.
Thank you so much for this video. I was born a biological female. I grew up being teased for acting boyish. I even remember getting a Utah jazz basketball with a hoop .and had only boys as playmates. I had more girl crushes than boys. I used to wear dresses, until i came out as bisexual..and i just stopped being comfortable wearing a dress and girly shoes. I have always felt comfortable and myself when i dressed like a man. I'm gender fluid.
Great talk, I'm going to share with others. This will be an ongoing conversation as we break down the walls needed for all to be welcome at the table. I definitely see the ways in which I've gendered my children, even though I thought I was trying not to. Thanks for your work, I respect you so much!
Thanks Lisa! I appreciate you and I really believe if we continue to learn and talk about this, we can break some barriers.
Don’t fall for this nonsense
There's absolutely nothing wrong with "gendering" your children, aka, respecting biology. Why are people ashamed of being natural and normal???
Your point about all of us maybe being better off as genderfluid aligns quite well with how I feel about polyamory, bi-sexuality (bi hmmm) and neurodiversity.
According to gender ideologists you're mixing up different things. Polyamori, bi-sexuality are sexual orientations, not gender or sex.
I'm a cis gay man and I watched this so I can try to better understand my nibling (my sister's child) who identifies as non-binary. I'm not there yet, but thank you, this has helped. I get what you said about us all being gender fluid to a degree, its true there are times I like to be what I'd consider "gayer" but could also be described as feminine yet most of the time I am happy with my masculine life.
Very interesting discussion. Talking is positive and constructive. Thank you.
Except when you're talking shit.
This is a great video. It's confusing to many of us :) So I loved how you added text and examples and laid out your story!
Thank you Erica. I appreciate you taking the time to watch. It's a dynamic topic for sure!
This was the most helpful in explaining the terms and addressing some of my issues with the terminology. It is a topic I've always been curious in understanding more of, esp the term non binary. I recently had a queer friend explain it a bit more to me as a personal subjective identification, more than an objective descriptor. This clears that up a bit more.
My issue with the nb term has always been bother some to me because it seems like an attempt at rebeling against gender expectations but I feel like it upholds it. I feel that way because I have a belief that we as a society have fought so hard to break down those strict gender roles/expressions and the people that uphold that have always been the weird ones, so the addition of nb as a label always seemed redundant because imo every rational person is nb(switching between masc and fem, i actually also think these terms are obsolete) in one way or the other. I'm seen as a masc person but if you watch me long enough you'll see me be fem in one way or the other, same with all my super macho masc friends, and vice versa with my most feminine friends. With that said the term, nb, seems to create a new distinction and a new goal for those that identify as cis, to fully and "correctly" express their gender. I think it upholds the binary more.
I hope i'm wrong and we all just get to a point where gender is seen as irrelevant and we are all gender nonconforming.
Thank you for this video!!! I’m just new to my enby journey (at 41 😂) and you have in one video validated some pretty deeply held understandings I’ve always held for myself. Put words to some complexities I’ve never had words for. I’m so grateful and I look forward to learning more from you.
I’m so happy to read this! Thanks for your words. We are complex beings for sure! 💙
When you say gender in English, is that the same as gender role? 😊
I am nonbinary, I see thing is this way, biologically there are three sex (female, male and intersex), in the terms of dividing humans from other animals we call young females “girls”, adult females “Woman”, young males “boys”, and adult males “man”, but that’s part of a sintaxis which only meaning isn’t biological, because it’ll be odd just to say that a woman is only a woman because she’s a female, or that a man is only a man because he’s a male, there’s so much more than that, and therefore it enters the “gender”, in which says what makes a woman being a woman, or a man being a man outside of the body they we’re born, how is their core, how they experience girlhood, boyhood, womanhood, and manhood, which roles in society (they decide to take part in), how they express their femininity and masculinity, how they dress, how they act, what they like or not, to embrace their gender, I see being a man and a woman sociologically as something that you learn and if you feel good with it then you embrace it, what I meant to say is that being a man, and a woman, are experiences, to live in the rol of, and being seen as, and feeling as one, something that you learn, and it’s not entirely attached to the biological body, (but still some people might transition to feel better in their own bodies, to match their gender expression).
But the thing is that these binary experiences are often damaging not only for man and woman but for other people who doesn’t fit in one part or another, people like me who didn’t had a boyhood/girlhood instead just a childhood, and now an adulthood, sometimes gender can be unfair by the hierarchy in which man are often seen as the ones with more freedom to perform activities, but their gender had also damaged them because of the toxic masculinity, which means to suppress emotions and act often violently within a lack of morals, by the other hand the gender of being a woman contains many beautiful and powerful meanings such as be sensitive and compassionate, but it had also been oppressed and seen as fragile, undefensive and with less rights and opportunities than man, today it’s getting better for man and woman but not all around the world, like in Pakistan in which being born as female involves to having the gender of a woman and instantly they dehumanize them… it’s something horribly unfair and inhuman.
Personally as one human who’s part of the IGBTQ+ community, I hope that one day we acknowledge that sex isn’t something that binary, there’s sex divergency like intersex people, not only males and females, and perhaps one day we won’t be categorizing ourselves as man, woman, boy, girl, and just humans, children, the same and equal, or perhaps if binary gender keeps existing it’ll be up to anyone to decide and express it the way they want and if they don’t feel like being part of the binary gender, then being free to express and develop and be themselves, because everyone is different and therefore express different, each mind is an entire universe.
If perhaps one day this comes true I think that it’ll be the best, and gender dysphoria could disappear since everyone will be free to be acknowledged as human beings instead of an stereotype, self understanding and love for others would be what makes us respect the expressions of others and embrace our selves, at the end, every time I se another person I don’t mind if it’s a man, I don’t mind if it’s a woman, or any other gender, I see a human who’s capable to do grate things, someone who’s life matters as much as every other living being, someone who’s an equal, someone who has good things and bad things, and it’s own way of expression, it’s own way of understanding the world around them, it doesn’t matter what they do, as long as they aren’t hurting anyone, they’ll be great human beings.
How do we make statistics when genders are involved?
New genders appear everyday it seems and that creates a problem if we are to address a statistic where gender is applied. An example could be a statistic covering Covid-19 cases involving gender. How will these be done now that we keep getting more and more genders?
Or are everyone, when it comes to a statistic where gender is a factor still putting themselves into a male or female category based on the fact if the have a uterus or not?
You're so right about it being hard to measure gender. I think this is where the fact that we confuse and exchange gender and sex becomes a problem. When we think about medical research, I think we're talking more about biological sex. Gender is our expression of being man or woman and feeling that maybe you fall somewhere in between. I think we need to get clear on the way we use these terms so that we can better think about medical research, understanding our biological bodies, etc. Thank you for your comment.
@@LorriSulpizio Oh i am not stating its hard to determine gender. I am asking the ones that have put themselves into a 'category' of gender where they look when they study a medical statistic where male and female are the only options.
I disagree with Dr. Lorri Sulpizio's overbroad definition of sex. The male/female binary has been in animals for millions of years. And as we all should know, humans are animals. Even some intersex individuals can frequently be identified by their base sex. It may very well be true that the evolutionary process has produced generalized ways in which humans behave as males or females. However, people also act and behave based upon so many different factors including their individual innate personality and the expectations of the culture in which they live. It should be remembered that scientists who study the brain don't even understand consciousness and debates rage on whether human behavior is determined or whether humans have free will. Scientists also seem no closer in understanding whether being male or female effects human behavior. In addition, over thousands of years, cultures have policed the sexual behavior of males and females with procreation in mind. All these factors go into what any given culture expects from males and females. And a person can only be gender nonconforming to the extent their culture has created sex-based behavioral limitations. Fortunately, the more a society is free, the wider the range of human behavior is allowed. However, there is a postmodern philosophy of gender, which Dr. Lorri Sulpizio is eloquently expressing in this video, with the idea that there is no true gender, but merely gender fluidity. It creates a philosophical gender category separate and distinct from sex. I'm just not convinced that it is based in fact. Even the rare person who claims to be transgender/transsexual understands their sex to be discordant with their body. And to varying degrees they attempt to reconcile their gender/sex dysphoria including extensive and dangerous surgeries and taking various medications for life. As to the words: man, woman, boy, girl, the postmodern approach is to deconstruct them. Deconstructionists first build a straw man of stereotypes based upon what a strict society would allow. And then say that anyone at anytime can be authentically male or female or both or neither because gender is actually on some amorphous spectrum of the imagination. The meaning of words become subjective and rendered impotent. As an effeminate gay male, I am a man (an adult human male). No one can take that away from me. My effeminate and frequently androgynous behavior does not diminish my being a male. It is wrong to say that I do not act manly. In fact, I can act no other way since I am biologically a male. I am not gender-fluid; I am not nonbinary. I am myself and this is true even when my culture says otherwise. I agree that each person should be able to behave and act authentically. But, I disagree that we must deconstruct every aspect of life to find our authentic selves. [By the way, I am subscribed to this channel and will continue to be even though I'm not in agreement with Lorri Sulpizio's thoughts on gender. I really enjoyed her interview with Dr. Soh. And I've enjoyed her erudition on other topics as well.]
I appreciate your response and all of your ideas, however, I'm not sure I totally follow your main point about sex. Are you saying sex and gender are the same things? If sex is represented by the body and biology and gender by an expression that is largely socially constructed, how would you differentiate them? Or would you? This whole topic seems like an evolution as we explore how we can break free from the limits of social standards and expectations, mainly around gender and the 'rules' for the sexes. Thanks for your comment.
@@LorriSulpizio I must first say that given this small space to write, I am forced to use overstated conclusions. We all seem to agree that sex refers to the biological categories of males and females. And these differences have a lot to do with human reproduction, including genetics. I was always taught that gender was the polite term for sex since sex also refers to sexual activity. Since the 1970s it appears that gender began to take on a life of "their" own because it now includes two other things: 1. how people identify and 2. how society constructs human behavior and expression. As to society's constructions of how males and females act, interact and dress, I don't see a difference in the meaning of the words gender/sex. You mention that society constructs gender expression. In other words, it seems that you saying that society constructs how people are to properly express themselves as males and females, or based upon their sex. How they express their sex. An interesting article I stumbled across from 2005 entitled, Sex and Gender: What is the Difference, is: journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/japplphysiol.00376.2005. It argues for scientists to use sex when discussing the biology of human and animal subjects and to use gender when referencing self-identity or social representation of an individual. I'm not completely opposed to this distinction if we are truly using scientific methodology. My main concern is how is it possible for a person to identify as a male or as a female or as both or as neither, the so-called gender spectrum. These gender beliefs or imaginings seem to be the result of dissatisfaction with societal constructs of sex or what you reference as gender although the constructs are rooted in human reproduction. I do not think it wise to start the foundation of belief with a philosophical construct based solely upon the acceptance of human imagination or human testimonial.
@@LorriSulpizioYou're not breaking free of them by defining everyone in terms of them, including in policy and law. The ideology you're pushing is sexist and regressive, not a revolution. Also, I believe the commenter above was referring to your conflation of intersex conditions with an alternate sex, which is false. Intersex conditions are a group of medical conditions which are in themselves dependent on the fact that there are two sexes. Only males can have Xxy Syndrome, only females can have Turner Syndrome, for example. But even if there was an alternate sex, or even if sex is not black and white, your logic fails. First, because then how can a person even be 'cis', 'trans', 'binary' or 'nonbinary' if these concepts are based in the idea that we have a 'gender' that either 'matches' or 'mismatches' our sex? And second, who said we have a 'gender' anyway, regardless of our biology Patriarchy did. Problematic. I'm not sure what kind of doctor you are, but you're allowing a highly problematic ideology to infuence and distort your critical thinking.
That was awesome! Thank you very much. Really well spoken and calming. I could listen to you for hours^^
Gender Fluid here. Thanks for your support ❤
Thank u so much for sharing this !
Thank you. This is one of the better videos I have seen giving a simple explanation for the difference between gender and sex🙂
Thank you so much for your authenticity and the way you have communicated truth here. ❤❤❤
"Truth". 🙄
8:14 I feel the same, I categorize myself as female instead of woman in biological terms, because woman doesn’t just have a biological meaning but a sociological one, united with the gender, and personally my body looks androgynous, there are things I would like to change with exercise and a good diet so that I could look a bit more masculine, using clothing that I like to express myself, a haircut as well, choose my pronouns and name, from now I use binders (safe binding), but maybe one day I could have a top surgery to feel better with my body since having a flat chest is something I’ve always wanted, and perhaps training my voice so it could be more masculine. (This might seem part of the procedure that some trans man takes since my expression is in part non binary and masculine, which is the definition of demoboy), but that’s just my experience.
This video was very helpful, thank you!
Thank you, I'm starting to feel closer to being more free, why should I commit to being male in my life?
It's such a tiresome thing to try and fit in and keep up appearances.
It is great that there are more nonbinary, genderfluid people as they delute in agood sense the rigid expectation about how a women or men should behave, dress....in my male neighbours I still observe considering a woman who is inferior to a man, and holding her breath waiting to get attention from a man....I am not holding my breath that is for sure ..haha, i talk to men, women equally, im asexual, androgen autistic, I feel like a neutral female with a male brain...anyway, the point is to be a decent human being
Ding ding. Autistic female. That seems to be highly associated with gender confusion.
I am on the autism spectrum too. I do the whole INFJ/ENFJ typical stuff, which is all atypical. What I heard was people on the spectrum are 11 times more likely to be gender non conforming or trans. So, nature gave us a clue. Now we are tasked with bringing the Nero typical people up to speed. LOL! This should be interesting.
No. You guys are upholding, reinforcing and perpetuating the rigid sex stereotypes and expectations imposed onto girls, women, boys and men. You've chosen to be a part of the problem, not the solution. Your own words are clear evidence of that.
the society develops and exists because people learned and became really good at coexisting with each other, people always have put society first. Society gives an evolutionary advantage to people. It gives groups more possibilities to survive. Nowadays western ideology of putting the personality first, came to its limits, now people put first Their needs and confort above society and they are not ready to tolerate Any personal disconfort and they are ready to destroy the society and world only because they to feel more confortable. Grace to insitutions, society and technology, people have delegated multiple problems and now they have time to care about inner confort and stability more, because other problems are solved. They have food, they have a house, security. So now when the organism have less to care about, it starts to look for other irritant factors. But in this environment it is easy to forget that society create the pillars on which personality stands, so you can never put personality first and you should always respect society.
Thank you for the information. It was quite helpful.
You are awesome! Thank you for educating and sharing your authentic self. 💚
Thank you so much for this comment.
@@LorriSulpizio 💗💙✌️😊🤟
Thank you! This was helpful in understanding the language floating around these days, and I’m sure I’ll watch it at least a couple more times. Personally, I’ve often been told “you think like a guy” or even “you’re such a guy.” But I’ve always been SAFE as me (cis f) and don’t worry about other people labeling me for their convenience.
@@helenbuller2829 I appreciate your words. And I love that you feel safe with yourself. I’ve always felt that as well, and I’ve been trying to understand why certain people can find that safety as a way to maybe help others do the same.
The vast majority, if not all, societies in the history of mankind follow natural sexual dymorphism. Even the ones that have a 3rd gender understand that the base "genders" are 2. Therefore, it's safe to conclude that "non-binary", "gender fluid" are unnatural and most likely personality disorders, an incapacity to perceive boundaries between sexes or accept their natural sexes. Of course we can have a mix of masculine and feminine behaviors but the vast majority of people closely associate with their natural sex with no confusion, little fluidity and don't spend their lives non-conforming.
You also clarified that "gender" is an unnecessary word, gender = sexual expression.
You said sex is non-binary, but 2 and only 2 sexes are necessary and sufficient to make human babies, and therefore, sex is not a spectrum or non-binary. A defective nail or screw isn't in the spectrum of nails and screws, it's just a defective piece. Scientists and doctors recognize malformations, developmental defects, syndromes for this reason, they're exceptions, they're not part of a "spectrum" in the same way being conjoined isn't part of a spectrum of how human individuals are.
Thank you! And for those cultures with a “third gender”, the vast majority of those are just applying feminine gender roles to males who aren’t stereotypically masculine. There has to be a binary for this to be based on. Since they’re based on a binary, that would make them not non-binary, if that makes sense.
One thing about being "male" or "female" is that one doesn't have to make an announcement (he/him, she/hers) to others, so....my question is why can't we just be, without the use of labels, and the attention getting tactic of announcing it. That being said if you are inclined to use a pronoun that is different than your outward appearance please by all means let me know, but if you appear as a man and use the typical pronouns he/him you don't have to announce it, and if you do I am inclined to think you are virtue signaling. That being said I am 65, and a biological female, and basically identify as female, but my whole life I have embraced the masculine parts of myself, and done so without the need or desire to explain it to anyone. When I was in high school I refused to participate in stereotypical female programs, home economics for example. I just am, and embrace what ever part of myself that I am expressing.
What you are saying is the goal, I think.... for us all to just be able to be. The world does have labels and we all use them, and I believe people are trying to find ways to authentically reflect who they are. It's so great that you can embrace whatever part of yourself you are expressing. I am there too now. Thank you for watching and commenting.
it's sad (and a bit narcissistic and distorted) that you seem to believe it's attention-seeking for someone who is basically not you to announce to the world who they are, especially when cis people get to march around declaring who exactly they are and leveraging the power that grants them -
gender-variant individuals are well aware of the fact that a majority of cis people don't care at all about their existence -
but what makes you think these very same individuals care about performatism to the point they are willing to risk their lives being publicly themselves so they can get attention from cis people? seems like a rather trash consolation prize to me - i hate to break it to you: the cis experience (and the self-importance that seems to go hand-in-hand with it) just doesn't factor into the actual lives of gender-variant folks -
we don't all get to simply" be ourselves" because we don't live in a world with social structures that are designed to empower people to be themselves - we have templates of who we are supposed to be and either we fit these metrics or we design our own -
tell the people who are comfortable with the power their labels give them to drop their labels (and see how, indeed, important labels are to a vast majority of people)
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@@LorriSulpizioNo. We don't all use these labels. *You* do. Not only do you use them for yourselves, but you impose them onto other people against our will and then have the nerve to claim that it's 'us' exerting power and control over you. Please. If you reject sex roles and stereotypes then reject them and just be yourself, as girls, women, gays, lesbians and other progressives have been doing for hundreds of years now. Don't buy into the very system that oppresses you and everyone else and then cry victim. That's not progress. It's just narccicism.
Authenticity?
I’m not sure if there’s a question in there? But if there is I’d be happy to try to answer it.
@@LorriSulpizio what do you mean by authentic self?
@@GranolaMwiinga I mean being who you truly are at your core. Not based on other peoples expectations or social standards, but discovering who you are at your true essence and living life out from that place.
@@LorriSulpizio Understood. Thanks
This helped me out so much and agree I wish we all could tap into our gender fluid so we can express our gender without suppression.
Instead of expressing your 'gender' - which is just sex stereotyping- why not express your personality and character? More real.
This is tremendous content. Thank you for putting it out there :)
Thank you for watching!
Seems like we can drop the confusing concept of “gender” and just stick to sex. What gets called “gender” is sex-based stereotypes and feelings/desires/beliefs people have regarding their own sex and the sex-based stereotypes. It’s all about sex.
might want to take secular coursework in history and biology at a university
you may be from some culture that bijects gender to a non-medical reduction of sexual reproductive role, or one that is primitive enough to conflate sexual dimorphism with behavioral identity and expressions (despite said traits not being sex based and empirically proven to not have anatomical requirements), but your system is not universal
in scientific literature we are going to continue to observe and report on what humans do in material reality, including the nuances of their social constructs, rather than how some group wants humans to act or self categorize
if that makes you insecure, you can keep using your own rituals and practices. you are not required or expected to move past indoctrinated ethnocentrism or to understand these STEM topics. those of us that do understand it aren't going to drop it just because it confuses your people...
@@RM-xr8lq what, in particular, am I getting wrong? “Gender” has no consistent meaning and has devolved into nonsense. An analysis of the history of the term shows how it started off as a term that referred to language (ie, German language has three genders) then became a euphemism for sex for squeamish Americans. Then Dr Money introduced his madman experiments. And then Butler came along. What is missing in replacing the word gender with more precise and accurate terms all based on sex as I suggest above?
Odd that you resort to personal attacks . If I said something false, just point out specifically what I got wrong.
@@RM-xr8lq you are confusing ‘gender’ for ‘sex-based stereotype’. Different cultures have different sex-based stereotypes. This is true. Ethnocentrism is to deny that fact; i do not. Gender ideology, which is anti-science, holds that there is some magical thing, called ‘gender’, which they can’t define non-circularly, and which can magically be ‘aligned with’ sex, but is not sex and not merely a sex-based stereotype. So perhaps point out if and where I’m wrong. Define gender (non-circularly), define sex, and the relation between the two. Sadly, gender ideologues social justice warriors such as yourself have problems with basic definitions. Like theology, everything is a mystery.
@@RC-qf3mp when studying general humans from a secular perspective, gender is referring to a mode of identity and expression contextual to the individual and culture they are being examined under. some cultures do not allow self-identifying gender since it is assigned externally, so an individuals gender identity may not match their perception by others. other cultures do not consider gender static, so it is not an issue to change it
this is separate from the physical anatomy of a person that sex generally refers to, which is either a boolean referencing a dichotomized model of human reproductive role (ignoring the null value/intersex), or just a collection of primary and secondary sexual characteristics (e.g. some studies might look at hormone levels and other attributes for a more direct correlation than simply “sex”). some aspects of “sex” (when using the latter definition) can be dynamic, and there is quite a lot of overlap in general, so you might hear it referred to as a bimodal distribution
labeling a person from the bugis society only by anatomical “sex”, and labeling an hijra only by sex, does not tell you the same knowledge as using both sex and a separate category for gender. those two cultures do not have the same categories for gender, and do not assign them in the same way. using your suggestion of “dropping gender and just stick to sex” results in information loss. there is little consistency in the mapping of “sex-gender” across different human societies, especially when considering modern LGBT sub-populations where expectations are thrown out the window
thus any correlation between sex and gender is (a) inconsistent across different human groups and (b) insufficient to accurately transform from one to the other without data loss, hence why they are seen as distinct. this discussion is mostly an issue in a language like English, where they have decided to use these two same words in vastly different ways across their media and academic literature. ignoring their etymology, and instead seeing “sex” and “gender” as “fieldA” and “fieldB” relating to the above meanings, it should be obvious why you might want to keep both those data fields for analysis
I thought that clothes were a social concept. so why people who are "free" want to wear a dress to feel more "female" (or vice-versa)? If we invent new genders, it would be great to also invent new clothing styles and colors etc for each gender. Also, I'm wondering, what does "female expression" or "female characteristics", "female space" exactly mean? You talk about fluidity and freeing women from social concepts, yet, using terms that are social concepts.
Exactly! You make great points. We have to have language in order to speak about ideas and have conversations, but even our language is limiting. 100%. The problem with languages that we can’t escape the social concepts that are associated with words without making new words, and that’s difficult in and of itself. So complex this issue is!
The United States is a free country and founded in individual rights. Call yourself whatever you like and live your life however you like as long as you are doing no harm to someone else. But this issue has no solution that would satisfy the trans community. And I’m sorry to say that this issue simply does not affect enough people to be seen as “urgent” to the general population. As long as you are not persecuted you have to live your life the way you want and don’t expect everyone else to really care that much about this.
sounds like a cis boy telling queers to shut up. i dont get why you feel so compelled to tell us how little you care
Im gender fluid and approve this message❤
Thank you so much. This helped me put what I was feeling into words
Is gender non comforming the same as being gender fluid?
thank you so much for this video!!!! I totally agree
Awesome video, really helpful way to learn about the issues. Thank you Dr Sulpizio!
Very informative.
Can you be bi-gender and NOT be both at the same time? Some times I see myself as a guy, sometimes as a gal. Never both at the same time.
That's what they call gender fluid.
The syllogism "I am a biological male; I feel like I'm a biological female; therefore, I'm a biological female" is not logically sound because it commits the fallacy of equivocation.
The term "biological male" refers to a person who has male reproductive organs and chromosomes, while "biological female" refers to a person who has female reproductive organs and chromosomes. However, in the second premise, the term "feel like a biological female" is not well-defined and may mean different things to different people. It could refer to gender identity, which is a subjective experience of feeling like a man or a woman, or it could refer to gender expression, which is the way in which a person presents themselves in society.
Thus, the argument equivocates on the meaning of "biological female," and the conclusion does not follow logically from the premises. The conclusion is not supported by the premises because feeling like a biological female does not change a person's biological sex. While gender identity is an important aspect of a person's self-concept and should be respected, it is distinct from biological sex and should not be confused with it.
Your syllogism is a strawman because trans women aren't saying "I feel like a biological female." They're saying "I am a woman." These aren't the same. The latter isn't a claim to have ovaries or two x chromosomes, it's the expression of a deeply felt desire to live the life of a woman-- to the extent that they can socially and within the obvious limits of biology.
@@SAMathlete Evaluate the following syllogism. I am a biological man. I have a deeply felt desire to live my life as a woman. Therefore I am a woman.
The syllogism you presented is not logically valid. While you have stated that you are a biological man and that you have a deeply felt desire to live your life as a woman, it does not logically follow that you are a woman based solely on these two premises. Gender identity is a complex and personal matter, and it's not solely determined by biological sex or desires. Gender identity is self-identified, so if you identify as a woman, you may choose to do so, but the syllogism itself does not provide logical proof of that identity.
@@SAMathleteThere's no particular way to live as a woman other than to be born female and grow into an adult. For all your claims of challenging sex roles and stereotypes you guys only reinforce and perpetuate them. This ideology is pure sexism, and as such a selfish indulgence that comes at the expense of other people's right to be free of sex stereotyping, which is sexism.
@@jjjccc728 We're talking past each other. Since you're keen on logic and stamping out equivocation, I'll lend a hand. Male/female is a term to describe sex and is used for many species besides ours. Man/woman would not be used for any species besides ours because they are terms to describe the human social phenomenon of gender. They've been conflated historically and are synonyms in some dictionaries, but they describe different phenomena. That's why there is a recent effort to emphasize them as distinct terms. So for someone who accepts the sex/gender distinction, some of the phrases you've strung together are incoherent ("biological man") or are redundant ("biological female"). With that out of the way, my evaluation of your syllogism is that the first premise is nonsense and could be removed without affecting the argument. We are left with "I have a deeply felt desire to live my life as a woman. Therefore I am a woman." That's almost a tautology in my book, but I'd personally add the requirement that they are outwardly expressing their desire through actions as well. Meaning, they are performing their gender, not merely desiring to be that gender. If it helps, consider this analogous syllogism "This is a hardcover book. This book follows tropes of science fiction. Therefore this book is science fiction." Do you see how we can do away with the first sentence there? It's a non sequitur. It doesn't pertain to the argument unless you bring in an assumption from culture that sci fi is only ever printed in cheap paperback editions.
@@Mel-wn9gb I don't know who your "you guys" is referring to. But anyway, I'm all for individual liberty and autonomy. I'm all for people's prerogative to defy cultural stereotypes and sex roles without consequence. Hell, I'm such a radical that I would even support someone's desire to conform to a cultural script about gender if it made them happy and was their own free choice. I wouldn't accuse such a person of perpetuating sex roles and stereotypes unless they had a limiting belief about themselves because of their gender and thus feel that they are compelled to behave or present a certain way. That's internalized sexism, for sure. And it happens. But it can't be the case that all gendered performances are sexist merely because they seem to reinforce the same gendered performances. Or what? Do I have to avoid all actions that someone considers stereotypical of my gender to avoid trampling on other people's right to be free of sex stereotyping? It seems like that's a false dilemma. We could have both. I can be gender-conforming and you could be gender nonconforming and we could live in harmony together. Wanna try?
thank you so much for making me actually feel seen
I’ve been ugly, beautiful crying because I’m feeling I need to label myself. Right now, I say I’m a non-binary lesbian with they/he/she pronouns. I’m going to explore that gender-fluid is more me. I love being masc presenting…but also see my bio as a woman. But then I like her femmes and unfortunately mis-assume they want me more masc. I just want to be authentically me.
Thank you 🙏
Thanks for the explanation.
Very logical video.
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Thank you, this was so affirming. ❤
To anyone who believes in gender fluidity or ambiguity, I have a couple of questions. Start with a 25 year old woman, who was born a woman. Let's say she wants to get pregnant would you think she has a fair chance of getting pregnant? If she finds she is having trouble getting pregnant would you recommend she consider going to a fertility Dr?
Now we take a 25 year old "woman" who was born a man. Let's say "she" wants to get pregnant would you think "she" has a fair chance of getting pregnant? If "she" finds "she" is having trouble getting pregnant would you recommend "she" consider going to a fertility Dr?
It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.
Mark Twain
In the German language their is no real distinction between sex and gender we only really have the word sex but there we kinda just go and say biological-sex and social-sex and I mean thats it it´s a social construct gender roles are a social or societal construct I mean they don´t really exist.
I like the part about describing yourself I personally don´t have a ton of direct connection to this topic but I still wanna learn something and this being about authenticity and describing yourself seems interesting to me. I feel like that could be a good argument to some more conservative people I know that have lets say problems with a lot of things including gender.
Also btw I totaly support this revolution if it makes people happy then yeah why not. No one is getting harmed here so I don´t see how people are against this also good quick explanation thanks vor the video.
1. Two sexes
2. No genders
3. Infinite personalities
Sex is a binary, literally, sperm and ova. Secondary sex characteristics ( Adams apple, breasts, hip width, etc) can exist on a spectrum of sorts, but they are SECONDARY SEX CHARACTERISTICS.
It’s true we need to be more open to breaking down expected gender roles, stereotypes etc. People should be free to live as they want.
Men can be masculine or feminine in their presentation, women can be feminine or masculine in their presentation. But it doesn’t require a vast array of incoherent gender identity philosophies.
Its a simple concept, made continuously complex, incoherent and non-parsimonious by current gender ideology.
I like your approach to gender as it applies each person.
I happen to have been born with sexual development as a male that was incomplete in so much as during the earliest weeks of gestation my germs cells failed to reach my gonads. thus on testis failed to develop at all as a testis, remaining as a ovotestis. The other testis did develop as a testis but really never fully matured to full size as an adult. I was able to preform somewhat as a male and have been married for many many years..
I have toyed many years as seeking out the female side of my persona.
If that were not enough I had to have many surgeries as a child because of my intersex body development. As an adult I did develop almost stage four testicular ovarian cancer. in addition I had many mature germ cell teratoma. One was malignant and the rest were not. The largest of these was 17.5cm.
It was found that I carry the gene for ovarian and breast cancer. So wish to seek out so form of MTF transition with estrogen would not be a good idea as this could cause my cancer to return.
Interesting is even though I only now have one poorly developed and operating testis my estrogen levels are high. Im not sure of my bodies way of producing this but it clear something is going on.
I'm a man. My room as a child was NOT filled with cars because I wasn't into that. Not everyone is so into these arbitrary rules. There has been pushback against these arbitrary rules since the 60s, however, the trans movement is bringing back these horrible stereotypes. I beg trans radical activists stop trying to push us back to the 1950s.
Exactly. This movement is the conservative backlash to actual progress.
My friend likes to wear a baby bonnet, and carry a rattler. He also claims to be teething, and asks random women if they will nurse him and push him around in a baby stroller. Worst of all he says he's not potty trained and wears diapers
Your friend sounds like an interesting person. I’m not sure if there’s any relevance to your comment or if you might have a question. But I appreciate you watching the video and then sharing with everybody about your friend.
Great video
I thought this was a good video and I could really relate to it. I never really fit in the woman box but I'm not gay or want to be a man per se. I just really hate how society has to label everything, when in labling then there's a prioritization and expectation that goes along with it. I can say with a certainty that I don't like women's roles in society and i have always viewed it as a slave status. I always wondered how much of my gender fluidity was due to the fact that I don't want to be considered a second-class citizen or deficient or underestimated 🤷
Beautiful!
It was the feminist movement that brought 'gender' to the public conversation. The current ideology is the backlash to that progress. Rather than challenge and reject the arbitrary sex stereotypes and roles imposed onto each sex, you've bought into them by defining all girls, women, boys and men in terms of them. These ideas are the entire problem. You're dragging us all backwards.
Gender and sex are used interchangeably because they are synonyms. Every English dictionary and thesaurus has said so for centuries. The sex variations she mentioned still result in male and female. As for gender...
“Gender is sometimes defined as...”
“...this is often related...”
“I like to define...”
This is not a concrete description. The purpose of this “movement” is for an extremely small minority to compel the vast majority to change their understanding of language and science in order to adopt their beliefs. Dr. Sulpizio just likes to change her style of dress; she’s not changing genders. The social elements she describes are gender roles, not genders themselves. I am pleased to see that she at least acknowledges that she is a female.
Agreed, lots of mistakes in this video:
"Sex isn't binary": yes it is, it only takes 2 sexes to make babies
"Gender is an expression": then no need for the word gender, just say sexual expression
Dictionaries aren't arbiters of truth, they just describe how we have been using words. So it does no good to argue that sex and gender must be synonyms because they have always been so. About 20 years ago, a common argument against gay marriage followed this same strategy. Just because it was common to define "marriage" as between a man and a woman doesn't mean we have to abide by that just because Merriam Webster says so. Likewise, if there is a compelling argument to alter the definition of "gender", then we can change it without reservations about dictionaries' traditional definitions.
@@SAMathlete False equivalency. Also there is no compelling argument.
@@SAMathlete There's no compelling argument to change the definition of 'gender' to mean the regressive, sexist bullshit that you're pushing. Women, gays, lesbians and other progressives have been explaining why for hundreds of years now. Catch up.
No. Gender expression is the way we express ourselves. Gender includes that, but also roles, identity and probably other stuff I've forgotten. I agree that it would be healthier if everyone was able to express themselves without the constraints of gender norms, but you really think folk should identify as non-binary? Identity is not really a choice. If it was, trans folk wouldn't exist.
Thank you
Why can’t we just all be gender fluid & not have to label it? Just be you & dress how you want? However, I just don’t agree that a person can change their biological sex & then all of a sudden be a man or a woman by removing or adding certain body parts & taking hormones. What happens when a young kid before puberty does all these things to try & change their gender & then they realize they made a mistake & now they have destroyed their bodies & can’t undo the damage 😳😩😱😭😭
I very much agree with you. It would be great if we could just be an address how we want. And you bring up important considerations when thinking about making a significant transition like gender. I appreciate your comment.
I am like you! :D I loved your video :D
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Expeditiously! Hope yal get the help you need though✊🏾
Science does not set rules. Science describes nature
Too many words blah blah blah this doesn’t make things any clearer. The gender fluid is muddy. Just be a person.
How about you dress how you want and like what you like and can still be the woman/man you Are?
I think I am gender fluid as well.
Interesting thank you