Saw Joker in a theater in Miami Beach... they had to stop the movie. A big, unhinged dude, sitting alone near the front of the theater was, from minute one... yelling "Yeah Joker KILL those fuckin people".. he said stuff like this all through the movie.. loud... ushers tried to quiet him down.. he threatened them... manager came to try to take him out.. didnt work. They finally had to call the cops, escorts the rest of the audience out and give everyone passes.. cause we only got about half way in. People who have psychological issues definitely see that film differently.
I actually hate Man on the Moon even more now because of the Jim and Andy documentary where Jim Carrey attempts to justify his method acting of annoying the hell out of the cast and crew daily as some out of body connection with Andy Kaufman. Jim Carrey is very talented but that doesn't mean he has free reign to waste people's time on set for his stupid make believe role of a more talented man.
What i find funny about is that he's not actually that good in the role. He's way to energetic and erratic in his performance. Kaufman was so much more introverted and subtle in his manners and performances. He claims to be channeling Kaufman and yet gets it wrong.
But, but, it's so quirky and eccentric and artistic! Method acting is unbelievably cringy and pompous. Dustin Hoffman didn't shower or sleep for days at a time to get in character for The Marathon Man. When Lawrence Olivier heard about it, he said "Son, why don't you try acting? It's so much easier". I wonder what Carrey would've said if the make-up artists applied make-up on him at their leisure, just to practice their skills for the movie. Whenever he was doing one of his Kaufman rants they should've just ran up and started brushing his face, without any regard to personal space or other people's work duties.
There's movies and creators you hate, and then there's Rob Zombie. And now he's doing The Munsters??? Please God let this be the last we hear of him forever.
I had read two Andy Kaufman biographies just before I saw “Man on the Moon” in a theater, and it just felt like “Andy’s Greatest Hits” compared to what I read. I agree that Jim Carrey doesn’t actually look like Andy, so the illusion just doesn’t work for me regardless of how much Carrey was channeling him. And I also thought it was odd that Danny DeVito played George Shapiro instead of himself. One strange moment is when you can see Christopher Lloyd and Carol Kane on the set of “Taxi” at a time when they weren’t in the cast yet. One nice thing I can say is that it’s sweet they got Andy’s granddaughter (whom he never met) to play his sister Carol when she was a little girl. Oh, and I do like the R.E.M. song. I remember thinking at the time “Automatic for the People” came out that it was cool that one of my favorite bands had a song about one of my favorite celebrities. Andy got immortalized in song! As for Terry Gilliam, I’m okay with the films I’ve seen, and “Brazil” is one of my all-time favorites. But I would agree that “The Fisher King” isn’t that great. I’m fine with Robin Williams here and there, but he can be very annoying in certain roles, and that’s one of them for me. The original version of “The Heartbreak Kid” is one I want to add to my DVD collection. It’s so cringe in the best possible way. I generally stay away from remakes of films that I’m quite fond of, so I’ve avoided Ben Stiller’s take on that character. I have three of the films discussed here: “The Devil’s Rejects,” “Romeo + Juliet,” and “Punch-Drunk Love.” I’d say one and done with the first two, but I’ll take anything by Paul Thomas Anderson. As for a film I hate, I know I’m not alone in my contempt for “Garden State.” A decent soundtrack shouldn’t be used to hide the fact that your movie sucks. The blatant use of the Manic Pixie Dream Girl trope is particularly annoying. And Natalie Portman is well-cast in that role, but she would’ve been better off in a different movie.
If you guys do a Man in the Moon video, check out interviews with wrestler Jerry Lawler about how much he hates Jim Carrey (and how much he loved Andy Kauffman). You totally nailed Dogma, Kevin Smith's grotesquely overrated pile of crap. Every character sounds like Kevin Smith while he puts himself in the movie as a mute. Kevin saying, "Aren't I so clever?" What Kevin Smith is to comedy, Rob Zombie is to horror/grindhouse. Zombie is guilty for cultural misappropriation for using Free Bird to attract the white trash to The Devil's Rejects. Requiem for a Dream is a one and done. Like most of Aronofsky's films. (I hated Noah more). "Dated Marilyn Manson video." Nailed it. You guys have justified me not seeing Joker. Great list!
Man I can’t stand Kevin Smith. Every one of his movies has a sort of preachiness that’s just so blatant. Dogma has some fun parts to it, Alan Rickman is probably the best part of it. But the whole deal of God is a woman and the quirky dialogue irks me terribly. It’s like the most reddit-core movie I’ve ever seen.
The movie I really hate, but (I guess) everybody loves is Christopher Nolan's ''Inception''. Y'all should do 1F**kingHour on (for instance Comedy) movies that are actually bad, but you personally really like. Mine are ''Yellowbeard'' (1983) & ''Erik The Viking'' (1989), to name a couple...Greetings from The Netherlands.
As a Batman/Joker fan, I thought the cardinal sin of The Joker was that it has literally nothing to do with the actual Joker character. I might have been able to enjoy it had they called it "The Clown" and set it in Chicago or Detroit instead of Gotham, or something.
That's actually one thing I like about it... that they raided the superhero fund to make a non-superhero movie. I heard Phillips told Phoenix that it was a heist movie because they were going to steal 55 million dollars from Warner Brothers.
That is absolutely not the biggest flaw of the film. Hell it's not even a flaw at all, like who fcking cares, besides nerds, if it has anything to do with the character, what we should really want is good art, not a Joker movie. You wouldn't hold this argument against The Shinning, wouldn't you? The film has many other real problems.
@@brunoactis1104 It's not even good art on it own merits... because aside from slapping a bad joker paint job on top, it was a full on rip off of Taxi Driver combined with The King of Comedy. And it had the audacity to cast Robert Deniro in it, as if that gave it a pass.
I never understood the appeal of _Joker._ I like Jauqin as an actor, & he did well w/what he was given (i giess), but if you examine the film anywhere beyond that, it's just a try-hard rip-off of _The King of Comedy_ w/a much larger budget due to it being made under the slapped-on DC label. There were _sooo_ many reviews from critics I usually respect the opinions of who were like _"This film is a masterpiece of modern cinema. A true work of art!"_ & I was so confused by the amount of hype vs how _meh_ 🤷🏼♂️ I actually felt by the end credits. This is an extremely unpopular opinion, but I actually enjoyed Leto's _damaged_ portrayal of the character more than the malnourished, overtly dramatacized, pathetic, effeminate, mentally ill mama's boy version Juaqin played.
I'm a very outspoken atheist, but I've only watched Dogma once, and even as a Kevin Smith fan (then), I absolutely hated it. Same with Requiem of a Dream, what a silly anti drugs propaganda movie.
I enjoy Dogma, though I can see why people wouldn't enjoy it. The comedy is close to the sort that I don't like very much, so it puzzles me a bit. Requiem was powerful, but the drug taking montage was waaay too frequent. Ditto with the second Judge Dredd movie.
Hearing you talk about Dogma reminded me of the poster for Chasing Amy: Ebert's full Chicago Tribune review. I haven't seen a director do that before or since.
About "Elvis", there were a couple of really old ladies watching the movie in my session, and I just couldn't help but wonder what were they thinking when trap needle drops and a DOJA CAT version of Hound Dog started playing. And I left the theater after forty minutes of the movie - it was simply too much for me.
Great episode! And I only own ONE of the movies you guys brought up, Requiem for a Dream, ha. But good lord I had to Google the CBGBs airport restaurant, it's at the Newark airport....and I came across a Yelp review from somebody rating their food. For the record because it's in an airport that person didn't expect Fine Dining Cuisine at THE CBGBS AIRPORT RESTAURANT......sorry out of that whole discussion that was my biggest take away, but I think I officially hate everything haha. Seriously, great episode!! Looking forward to the Zodiac episode next week!
I wrote this little review of Joker after the movie was released: "Have you ever wondered what was going to be like if a frat boy who just recently finished The Communist Manifesto made Taxi Driver and King of Comedy? Well, Joker is here to satisfy your imagination. A film without any nuance whatsoever made by a man that only thinks in moral extremes and favors superficiality, supported by two hours of Phoenix's outtakes, self-indulgence, and a total lack of direction." And to makes things worse, the sequel (yes, there's going to be one) is going to be a MUSICAL - a Todd Phillips musical with Joaquin Phoenix and Lady Gaga!
"What if idiots with bad taste trash a great movie because they think being a contrarian makes them cool and edgy? As far as it being a "rip-off" of Taxi Driver and The King of Comedy, I have a secret; every piece of fiction is derivative of what has come before it. There are about 10-12 plots/themes for fiction. What counts is what you do with them. "Frat boy"? Lmao. You're not very bright. Joker's first kills are literally Wall Street bros harassing a woman on the subway. I wish people who trashed movies actually paid attention to what they watch.
I’d really delight in an episode tearing apart the works of Charlie Kaufman. I cannot think of a filmmaker/artist who I’ve done such a complete 180 on - from thinking he was a brilliant, profound existentialist, a modern day Borges, in my early 20s to realizing he was vapid, indulgent and solipsistic in my 30s. If you need to pick one, his most recent is his most egregious offense and would’ve definitely been one of my picks. I hate it with a fiery passion.
Sorry, but I’m a Kaufman stan. What he did with “Adaptation.” after struggling with writer’s block was absolutely brilliant! I don’t have “Human Nature” or “I’m Thinking of Ending Things,” but I’ve got the other half-dozen he’s done. That’s not to say I won’t set him aside at some point (like I did with Atom Egoyan), but I’m still interested in seeing what else he has up his sleeve.
I do enjoy this a lot, the entire show is entertaining. I feel you could do with inviting someone who doesn't HATE especially when you're discussing movies you hate. Maybe for the love bombing as well, it becomes very one way either pouring love or hate over said movie... Not all that interesting when you (me) in some cases are on the other side of the fence. I feel the nuance drops really low and no one is questioning anything being said. Just an idea and a suggestion for progressing
Thank you for the perfect bad movie Xmas gift. My own personal slice of movie hatred: Dead Heat, a Zombie-Cop-Buddy movie with Treat Williams snd Joe Piscopo (in his bodybuilding phase and so, so very bad).
you guys SHOULD do an episode on both Man on the Moon and Jim & Andy !! Most of these movies i dig like Joker and Dogma, but, I dig more hearing people hate on these movies. Very much looking forward to Zodiac, my fav Fincher film. I get so invested into the investigation even in my 20th time watching
I haven't seen many Darren Aronofsky films. But Noah and Mother! were both atrociously bad. It makes me wonder if The Whale is duping critics because of Brendan Fraser's acting, or if they just always fall for Aronofsky's auteurish gimmicks.
Good Lord I've been enjoying these special episodes, guys. More Hate and guilty pleasures please! I was so in when you came for Gilliam and Aronofsky. It got mentioned briefly but The Fountain in my top ten most hated, along with Barry Levinson's Envy and Ethan Hawke's Chelsea Walls (bit of a deep cut).
I've come to really hate the Breakfast Club. Good cast, but the message seems to be "stereotypes are all true, and boo grownups!!" Which is the opposite of what I think.
Also, the older I get the more I side with Rooney on Ferris Bueller’s Day Off - which…admittedly makes me feel old. Poorer people’s tax dollars are going to fund this rich brat’s education, the type of education that kids in many countries will never get the chance to get, but sure go hop on a parade float ya little shit.
The 1999 critically hail-fail is "Magnolia", but agree strongly with the others DAY 1. Thanks for "Requiem", I rated that a "0" day one while everyone was gushing, the same with "Donnie Darko". However, compared to the film pit of the last 10 years, these group doesn't SEEM as bad. Surprised you dudes buy the often mentioned "School-sh00ter" narrative from the "authentically challenged" news - biggest overacting ever.
Enjoyed the podcast. Regarding Joker 2019 sure his the main protagonist who we follow throughout his journey but doesn't make him a hero. Essentially a villian protagonist.
Finally some smart guys who see "Requiem for a Dream" for what it is, thank you! At the time i saw this flick, i felt really sorry for Ellen Burstyn, who got totally abandoned by Aronofsky superficial camerawork.
I walked into this with my back slightly up - thinking you guys would trash something I love - but nope. I loath every movie covered. Also? I am looking so forward to the Zodiac ep!
2 genres I've explored more deeply and thoroughly than any other are horror and comedy, and you guys picked 2 movies that were the lamest possible imitations of literally my 2 favorite comedies of all time: The King of Comedy and The Heartbreak Kid.
M Night Shama Lama Ding Dong... my favorite take of his first 4 movies is from Charlie from Its Always Sunny, the big twist of Sixth Sense according to Charlie is finding out the main dude with hair piece is Bruce Willis--i haven't stopped laughing as i got suckered into watching his first 4 and enjoyed nothing about them... Shama Lama Ding Dong has a 5 minute idea that might work as a short but turns it into a full length bore fest... fax!!!
I am into this break of format, but it’s a little odd to me that you guys are so on the same page with all of these disparate movies being so viscerally awful. If it’s a little schtick I understand, but going sincerely full Greek choir on all of these together just strikes me as a little weird.
I agree with all these. In particlular, I thought The Devil’s Rejects was easily one of the worst movies I’d seen in years but had friends raving about it. I love horror and grindhouse so it’s not some issue of being “shocked” or what have you-it’s just terrible.
The worst movie EVER was "It's Pat". It had one premise, it had no plot, and at the end it had to make "a statement" by having a gay couple in line when "something" happened. At the time I would watch all movies all the way through. I couldn't get through it! And the worst Shakespeare dialog check out Keanu Reeves in Much Ado About Nothing. It's the worst!
Thanks for posting the Ebert/Roeper review of The Devil's Rejects. The fact is this movie got great reviews at the time because of political divison over the Bush administration. The film signals to the anti-Bush crowd and it worked like gangbusters. I saw it in the theater and was flabbergasted at how bad it was.
It seem like you guys just don’t like films that make very loud and bombastic stylistic gestures. Just as loud music has its place stylistically loud movies have their place as well. Just admit it’s not to your taste.
I feel terrible saying this because when I was young I used to think I loved Terry Gilliam and his uncompromising wacky vision but I’ve revisited his classic films recently and my god are they irritating, massively OTT and just simply, bad. I still love what he did with Python but his films are an absolute grind.
The Fisher King is seriously overrated. I love 12 Monkeys though, and recently watched Baron Munchausen, which thoroughly baffled and frustrated me. But now that I have a clearer idea of what it is about, I like it.
oh no you didn't pick on The Fisher King. Haha no I agree with some you said, but will always love that movie. Good point tho about minimalising mental illness.
Well, you’re not gonna know you won’t like it until you’ve seen it. Of course, a remake of a classic should generally be avoided, and there are certain directors and actors who almost always guarantee a film will be unwatchable. But ultimately you’ll have to see the film to know for sure.
Jim Carrey is eerily dead-on in his portrayal of Andy Kaufman, which helps to elevate Man on the Moon above the script's formulaic biopic cliches. ...unanimous in their praise for Carrey's portrayal of Andy Kaufman. Carrey won a Golden Globe for his performance
This is really enjoyable but I take issue with the "please love me/busy frames" being a boomer thing when it comes to filmmakers, I think that's much more of a gen x/millennial thing
Movies I hate The Northman It Follows Enter the Void Dunkirk Tenet Mr. Brooks The Last Jedi Death to Smoochy I actually like that REM song Dogma is probably my favourite Kevin Smith film Another Round is the exact opposite movie of Requiem. Trainspotting is the same as Requiem only it’s good
@@gourmetghost Haven’t seen that yet. It Follows had too much of the characters sitting around waiting for the evil. And the evil looking like any random schmuck was lame and not scary
Great episode. One movie I really hate is "There Will Be Blood." Such an over-rated piece of Oscar-bait. People were quoting that milkshake line for like a year straight, and I really wanted to punch someone.
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The best tag for "Joker" I heard came from Red Letter Media: Baby's first "Taxi Driver."
I had the same reaction. Jay nailed it.
Saw Joker in a theater in Miami Beach... they had to stop the movie. A big, unhinged dude, sitting alone near the front of the theater was, from minute one... yelling "Yeah Joker KILL those fuckin people".. he said stuff like this all through the movie.. loud... ushers tried to quiet him down.. he threatened them... manager came to try to take him out.. didnt work. They finally had to call the cops, escorts the rest of the audience out and give everyone passes.. cause we only got about half way in. People who have psychological issues definitely see that film differently.
JOKER IS BAD FOR SOCIETY
Yup the Joker is an overrated piece of junk
Please do a One Fucking Hour on They Live and the films of John Carpenter
This reminded me how banal my 90s/2000s cynicism was. I appreciate that you guys see that the movies that hate the audience truly suck.
I hate all Rob Zombie movies!
Jim Carrey walked so that Jared Leto could run
I actually hate Man on the Moon even more now because of the Jim and Andy documentary where Jim Carrey attempts to justify his method acting of annoying the hell out of the cast and crew daily as some out of body connection with Andy Kaufman. Jim Carrey is very talented but that doesn't mean he has free reign to waste people's time on set for his stupid make believe role of a more talented man.
What i find funny about is that he's not actually that good in the role. He's way to energetic and erratic in his performance. Kaufman was so much more introverted and subtle in his manners and performances. He claims to be channeling Kaufman and yet gets it wrong.
But, but, it's so quirky and eccentric and artistic! Method acting is unbelievably cringy and pompous.
Dustin Hoffman didn't shower or sleep for days at a time to get in character for The Marathon Man. When Lawrence Olivier heard about it, he said "Son, why don't you try acting? It's so much easier".
I wonder what Carrey would've said if the make-up artists applied make-up on him at their leisure, just to practice their skills for the movie. Whenever he was doing one of his Kaufman rants they should've just ran up and started brushing his face, without any regard to personal space or other people's work duties.
I absolutely concur on Man in the Moon...what an AWFUL film and Carrey is absolutely atrocious in it. I hate this film
There's movies and creators you hate, and then there's Rob Zombie. And now he's doing The Munsters??? Please God let this be the last we hear of him forever.
His movies would be much better if he didn't have is utterly talentless wife in a starring role every one of his movies
I can't believe Party Monster didn't make this list. Basketball Diaries? Deuces Wild? For fuck's sake, Crash?
I hope you mean Paul Haggis Crash, not Cronenbergs.
@@saschadattel2570 Of course I meant Haggis. Jesus.
@@jamesferry1523 ...just checking🤣
I had read two Andy Kaufman biographies just before I saw “Man on the Moon” in a theater, and it just felt like “Andy’s Greatest Hits” compared to what I read. I agree that Jim Carrey doesn’t actually look like Andy, so the illusion just doesn’t work for me regardless of how much Carrey was channeling him. And I also thought it was odd that Danny DeVito played George Shapiro instead of himself. One strange moment is when you can see Christopher Lloyd and Carol Kane on the set of “Taxi” at a time when they weren’t in the cast yet. One nice thing I can say is that it’s sweet they got Andy’s granddaughter (whom he never met) to play his sister Carol when she was a little girl. Oh, and I do like the R.E.M. song. I remember thinking at the time “Automatic for the People” came out that it was cool that one of my favorite bands had a song about one of my favorite celebrities. Andy got immortalized in song!
As for Terry Gilliam, I’m okay with the films I’ve seen, and “Brazil” is one of my all-time favorites. But I would agree that “The Fisher King” isn’t that great. I’m fine with Robin Williams here and there, but he can be very annoying in certain roles, and that’s one of them for me.
The original version of “The Heartbreak Kid” is one I want to add to my DVD collection. It’s so cringe in the best possible way. I generally stay away from remakes of films that I’m quite fond of, so I’ve avoided Ben Stiller’s take on that character.
I have three of the films discussed here: “The Devil’s Rejects,” “Romeo + Juliet,” and “Punch-Drunk Love.” I’d say one and done with the first two, but I’ll take anything by Paul Thomas Anderson.
As for a film I hate, I know I’m not alone in my contempt for “Garden State.” A decent soundtrack shouldn’t be used to hide the fact that your movie sucks. The blatant use of the Manic Pixie Dream Girl trope is particularly annoying. And Natalie Portman is well-cast in that role, but she would’ve been better off in a different movie.
If you guys do a Man in the Moon video, check out interviews with wrestler Jerry Lawler about how much he hates Jim Carrey (and how much he loved Andy Kauffman).
You totally nailed Dogma, Kevin Smith's grotesquely overrated pile of crap. Every character sounds like Kevin Smith while he puts himself in the movie as a mute. Kevin saying, "Aren't I so clever?"
What Kevin Smith is to comedy, Rob Zombie is to horror/grindhouse. Zombie is guilty for cultural misappropriation for using Free Bird to attract the white trash to The Devil's Rejects.
Requiem for a Dream is a one and done. Like most of Aronofsky's films. (I hated Noah more). "Dated Marilyn Manson video." Nailed it.
You guys have justified me not seeing Joker.
Great list!
Man I can’t stand Kevin Smith. Every one of his movies has a sort of preachiness that’s just so blatant. Dogma has some fun parts to it, Alan Rickman is probably the best part of it. But the whole deal of God is a woman and the quirky dialogue irks me terribly. It’s like the most reddit-core movie I’ve ever seen.
Here’s one that really doesn’t work at all The Lady In The Water.
In M Night's memoir of shooting Lady in the Water he called himself the Michael Jordan of film making...
Noah is awful.fear and loathing is awful too
The movie I really hate, but (I guess) everybody loves is Christopher Nolan's ''Inception''. Y'all should do 1F**kingHour on (for instance Comedy) movies that are actually bad, but you personally really like. Mine are ''Yellowbeard'' (1983) & ''Erik The Viking'' (1989), to name a couple...Greetings from The Netherlands.
It was criminal our list didn’t have any Nolan.. we’ll save him for the next go around
@@OneFuckingHour You guys should definitely do Tenet, would love hear you guys eviscerate that movie lol
Oh dear. If they hated the first Joker they really should stay away from the second one! 😂😂😂
Fun fact: The original Heartbreak Kid is Jerry Seinfeld's all time favorite comedy film.
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As a Batman/Joker fan, I thought the cardinal sin of The Joker was that it has literally nothing to do with the actual Joker character. I might have been able to enjoy it had they called it "The Clown" and set it in Chicago or Detroit instead of Gotham, or something.
That's actually one thing I like about it... that they raided the superhero fund to make a non-superhero movie. I heard Phillips told Phoenix that it was a heist movie because they were going to steal 55 million dollars from Warner Brothers.
That is absolutely not the biggest flaw of the film. Hell it's not even a flaw at all, like who fcking cares, besides nerds, if it has anything to do with the character, what we should really want is good art, not a Joker movie. You wouldn't hold this argument against The Shinning, wouldn't you? The film has many other real problems.
I absolutely hate Joker. I'm glad people here, including the channel's hosts, feel that way too.
@@brunoactis1104 It's not even good art on it own merits... because aside from slapping a bad joker paint job on top, it was a full on rip off of Taxi Driver combined with The King of Comedy. And it had the audacity to cast Robert Deniro in it, as if that gave it a pass.
I never understood the appeal of _Joker._ I like Jauqin as an actor, & he did well w/what he was given (i giess), but if you examine the film anywhere beyond that, it's just a try-hard rip-off of _The King of Comedy_ w/a much larger budget due to it being made under the slapped-on DC label. There were _sooo_ many reviews from critics I usually respect the opinions of who were like _"This film is a masterpiece of modern cinema. A true work of art!"_ & I was so confused by the amount of hype vs how _meh_ 🤷🏼♂️ I actually felt by the end credits. This is an extremely unpopular opinion, but I actually enjoyed Leto's _damaged_ portrayal of the character more than the malnourished, overtly dramatacized, pathetic, effeminate, mentally ill mama's boy version Juaqin played.
I'm a very outspoken atheist, but I've only watched Dogma once, and even as a Kevin Smith fan (then), I absolutely hated it. Same with Requiem of a Dream, what a silly anti drugs propaganda movie.
I enjoy Dogma, though I can see why people wouldn't enjoy it. The comedy is close to the sort that I don't like very much, so it puzzles me a bit. Requiem was powerful, but the drug taking montage was waaay too frequent. Ditto with the second Judge Dredd movie.
Also, thanks Tom for pointing out that the og Heartbreak Kid is on TH-cam, I've been wanting to see the original for some time now.
I didn't even realize that was a remake. I'll have to check out the OG. It HAS to be better than the remake.
@@johnm.withersiv4352 I'm just a big fan of young Cybill Shepherd ha
Charles Grodin is perfect in that film! Gotta give Elaine May and Neil Simon credit for directing and writing it.
Wow, I thought I was the only one who didn't find these movies appealing. Thanks for the validation.
Hearing you talk about Dogma reminded me of the poster for Chasing Amy: Ebert's full Chicago Tribune review. I haven't seen a director do that before or since.
Hey now, Bedazzled is one of my guilty pleasures!
Mine too.
About "Elvis", there were a couple of really old ladies watching the movie in my session, and I just couldn't help but wonder what were they thinking when trap needle drops and a DOJA CAT version of Hound Dog started playing. And I left the theater after forty minutes of the movie - it was simply too much for me.
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I do like Gilliams' films _Timebandits_ (1982) and _Brazil_ (1985) - but everything else I can leave on the table
Great episode! And I only own ONE of the movies you guys brought up, Requiem for a Dream, ha. But good lord I had to Google the CBGBs airport restaurant, it's at the Newark airport....and I came across a Yelp review from somebody rating their food. For the record because it's in an airport that person didn't expect Fine Dining Cuisine at THE CBGBS AIRPORT RESTAURANT......sorry out of that whole discussion that was my biggest take away, but I think I officially hate everything haha. Seriously, great episode!! Looking forward to the Zodiac episode next week!
LOL "The Stepford Punks"
I wrote this little review of Joker after the movie was released:
"Have you ever wondered what was going to be like if a frat boy who just recently finished The Communist Manifesto made Taxi Driver and King of Comedy? Well, Joker is here to satisfy your imagination. A film without any nuance whatsoever made by a man that only thinks in moral extremes and favors superficiality, supported by two hours of Phoenix's outtakes, self-indulgence, and a total lack of direction."
And to makes things worse, the sequel (yes, there's going to be one) is going to be a MUSICAL - a Todd Phillips musical with Joaquin Phoenix and Lady Gaga!
Ding ding ✊
Damn, I HOPE they make that musical Sequel! That might transcend its badness into the wonderfully awful.
I hate Joker, too. There are lots of reasons why. Also, there are a lot of videos and reviews that say how Joker is bad.
"What if idiots with bad taste trash a great movie because they think being a contrarian makes them cool and edgy?
As far as it being a "rip-off" of Taxi Driver and The King of Comedy, I have a secret; every piece of fiction is derivative of what has come before it. There are about 10-12 plots/themes for fiction. What counts is what you do with them.
"Frat boy"? Lmao. You're not very bright. Joker's first kills are literally Wall Street bros harassing a woman on the subway.
I wish people who trashed movies actually paid attention to what they watch.
I’d really delight in an episode tearing apart the works of Charlie Kaufman. I cannot think of a filmmaker/artist who I’ve done such a complete 180 on - from thinking he was a brilliant, profound existentialist, a modern day Borges, in my early 20s to realizing he was vapid, indulgent and solipsistic in my 30s. If you need to pick one, his most recent is his most egregious offense and would’ve definitely been one of my picks. I hate it with a fiery passion.
Which ones don’t you like?
Sorry, but I’m a Kaufman stan. What he did with “Adaptation.” after struggling with writer’s block was absolutely brilliant! I don’t have “Human Nature” or “I’m Thinking of Ending Things,” but I’ve got the other half-dozen he’s done. That’s not to say I won’t set him aside at some point (like I did with Atom Egoyan), but I’m still interested in seeing what else he has up his sleeve.
Because nothing brings good friends together like BAD MOVIES!
This episode was really fun.
I do enjoy this a lot, the entire show is entertaining. I feel you could do with inviting someone who doesn't HATE especially when you're discussing movies you hate.
Maybe for the love bombing as well, it becomes very one way either pouring love or hate over said movie...
Not all that interesting when you (me) in some cases are on the other side of the fence. I feel the nuance drops really low and no one is questioning anything being said.
Just an idea and a suggestion for progressing
Thank you for the perfect bad movie Xmas gift.
My own personal slice of movie hatred: Dead Heat, a Zombie-Cop-Buddy movie with Treat Williams snd Joe Piscopo (in his bodybuilding phase and so, so very bad).
That sounds like so bad it's good
@@clintonorman2859 It's unbelievably bad! Plus a very old and frail Vincent Price...but how do you elevate a six foot grave of a movie?
you guys SHOULD do an episode on both Man on the Moon and Jim & Andy !!
Most of these movies i dig like Joker and Dogma, but, I dig more hearing people hate on these movies. Very much looking forward to Zodiac, my fav Fincher film. I get so invested into the investigation even in my 20th time watching
Def wanna do a MOTM and J&A 💯
@@OneFuckingHour both in one episode, can it be done in one hour? O.O
Bonus fact for *Romeo+Juliet*: Leo DiCaprio and Clare Danes despised working together
I haven't seen many Darren Aronofsky films. But Noah and Mother! were both atrociously bad.
It makes me wonder if The Whale is duping critics because of Brendan Fraser's acting, or if they just always fall for Aronofsky's auteurish gimmicks.
Ugh I hate Devil's Rejects so much, really agree with that one
Good Lord I've been enjoying these special episodes, guys. More Hate and guilty pleasures please! I was so in when you came for Gilliam and Aronofsky. It got mentioned briefly but The Fountain in my top ten most hated, along with Barry Levinson's Envy and Ethan Hawke's Chelsea Walls (bit of a deep cut).
Preemptive rebuttal: Birdman is good except for the lesbian subplot that adds nothing and goes nowhere (lol)
I've come to really hate the Breakfast Club. Good cast, but the message seems to be "stereotypes are all true, and boo grownups!!" Which is the opposite of what I think.
Also, the older I get the more I side with Rooney on Ferris Bueller’s Day Off - which…admittedly makes me feel old. Poorer people’s tax dollars are going to fund this rich brat’s education, the type of education that kids in many countries will never get the chance to get, but sure go hop on a parade float ya little shit.
I WILL NOT stand for the hate on Brazil. It’s a wonderfully manic and vivid film, and I love it quite dearly. It is a mess though.
Yes, “Brazil” is one of my all-time favorites. Maybe it appeals to the hopeless daydreamer I’ve always been.
Glad to see I'm not the only one with these thoughts vs. the hype of so many movies. So over-rated.
Still, ya gotta admit that refrigerator monster hallucination jumping towards the spun-out Mother is still a F-ed up scene!!!!!!!🤨🙃😉
I happen to think there's some talent in that movie mixed in with all the bullshit.
Curious to what you guys think of aronofsky’s “the wrestler”
Elvis. My God SO awful I couldn't watch but a few minutes.
The 1999 critically hail-fail is "Magnolia", but agree strongly with the others DAY 1. Thanks for "Requiem", I rated that a "0" day one while everyone was gushing, the same with "Donnie Darko". However, compared to the film pit of the last 10 years, these group doesn't SEEM as bad. Surprised you dudes buy the often mentioned "School-sh00ter" narrative from the "authentically challenged" news - biggest overacting ever.
Enjoyed the podcast. Regarding Joker 2019 sure his the main protagonist who we follow throughout his journey but doesn't make him a hero. Essentially a villian protagonist.
Finally some smart guys who see "Requiem for a Dream" for what it is, thank you! At the time i saw this flick, i felt really sorry for Ellen Burstyn, who got totally abandoned by Aronofsky superficial camerawork.
I’ve got one The Happeing. Also I refuse to watch the Footloose re-make.
I walked into this with my back slightly up - thinking you guys would trash something I love - but nope. I loath every movie covered.
Also? I am looking so forward to the Zodiac ep!
This Episode is a straight-up recomendation list with reverse psychologie, right? RIGHT ?!?
2 genres I've explored more deeply and thoroughly than any other are horror and comedy, and you guys picked 2 movies that were the lamest possible imitations of literally my 2 favorite comedies of all time: The King of Comedy and The Heartbreak Kid.
We do it because we love movies
I want to see an episode of ALL the very very BAD movies you TRULY loved!!
M Night Shama Lama Ding Dong... my favorite take of his first 4 movies is from Charlie from Its Always Sunny, the big twist of Sixth Sense according to Charlie is finding out the main dude with hair piece is Bruce Willis--i haven't stopped laughing as i got suckered into watching his first 4 and enjoyed nothing about them... Shama Lama Ding Dong has a 5 minute idea that might work as a short but turns it into a full length bore fest... fax!!!
HAPPY ANNIVERSARY GUYS!!
I am into this break of format, but it’s a little odd to me that you guys are so on the same page with all of these disparate movies being so viscerally awful. If it’s a little schtick I understand, but going sincerely full Greek choir on all of these together just strikes me as a little weird.
You guys hate these movies on a "personal" level and yet you all agree on each pick. Maybe you should spend more time apart.
I also found this odd and surprising. Not one single "Oh, I kinda like that one" amongst the picks.
I hold with the Matt Christman take on "Joker". It redeems the film as a work of unconscious, accidental genius.
White Room is a mediocre song? That take is even worse than Joker.
It's a ripoff of Tales of Brave Ulysses
@@aisle_of_view How can a band rip-off their own song?
I realize I'm late to this party, but, for me: Ferris Bueller's Day Off.
What movies have you walked out of? For me: Reservoir Dogs, Spaceballs
What’s the intro pulled from?
What do you guys think of "Red State"?
Kevin Smith's best movie!
I agree with all these. In particlular, I thought The Devil’s Rejects was easily one of the worst movies I’d seen in years but had friends raving about it. I love horror and grindhouse so it’s not some issue of being “shocked” or what have you-it’s just terrible.
I want to hear your take on Da 5 Bloods.... My GOD
From Dusk Till Dawn, I hate that fäkin movie.
Agree 💯 it thinks it’s so tongue-in-cheek hip. All the worst Tarantino conceits on display
Absolutely agreed about Rob Zombie. Disagreed on others. Some stuff felt overly nitpicky. Nitpicky for its own sake. But overall fun shit talking
The worst movie EVER was "It's Pat". It had one premise, it had no plot, and at the end it had to make "a statement" by having a gay couple in line when "something" happened. At the time I would watch all movies all the way through. I couldn't get through it! And the worst Shakespeare dialog check out Keanu Reeves in Much Ado About Nothing. It's the worst!
Thanks for posting the Ebert/Roeper review of The Devil's Rejects. The fact is this movie got great reviews at the time because of political divison over the Bush administration. The film signals to the anti-Bush crowd and it worked like gangbusters. I saw it in the theater and was flabbergasted at how bad it was.
pi was good
Ben Stiller films are a scourge on film.
All of them? He is the star of a more serious film, Greenberg. I have yet to see it but want to.
It seem like you guys just don’t like films that make very loud and bombastic stylistic gestures. Just as loud music has its place stylistically loud movies have their place as well. Just admit it’s not to your taste.
100% spot-on regarding Joker. Breaks my heart that such garbage made so much money.
It breaks my heart that contrarian morons with terrible taste are still whining about Joker being a hit.
Nu-Metal Gigglers aaaaahhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!
I feel terrible saying this because when I was young I used to think I loved Terry Gilliam and his uncompromising wacky vision but I’ve revisited his classic films recently and my god are they irritating, massively OTT and just simply, bad. I still love what he did with Python but his films are an absolute grind.
The Fisher King is seriously overrated. I love 12 Monkeys though, and recently watched Baron Munchausen, which thoroughly baffled and frustrated me. But now that I have a clearer idea of what it is about, I like it.
oh no you didn't pick on The Fisher King. Haha no I agree with some you said, but will always love that movie. Good point tho about minimalising mental illness.
Lost in Translation... oh, mixing up R's and L's, good one. Really witty. Yuck
You guys think Gilliam sucks? Un. Sub. Scribe. Deleting comments (except for this of course). Good riddance.
Yea he sucks
the guy on the right likes him, just went along ...
R4AD is a fairytale compared to the book. Just saying.
Who the hell watches movies they don't like it's just such a stupid thing to do
Well, you’re not gonna know you won’t like it until you’ve seen it. Of course, a remake of a classic should generally be avoided, and there are certain directors and actors who almost always guarantee a film will be unwatchable. But ultimately you’ll have to see the film to know for sure.
When i was 10 i watched time bandits and thought it was the worst movie id ever seen. Next time i felt that was patch adams.
Brazil, 12 monkeys? Really? Those are great.
Agreed. 12 Monkeys is fantastic.
Jim Carrey is eerily dead-on in his portrayal of Andy Kaufman, which helps to elevate Man on the Moon above the script's formulaic biopic cliches.
...unanimous in their praise for Carrey's portrayal of Andy Kaufman. Carrey won a Golden Globe for his performance
So many insane takes....
This is really enjoyable but I take issue with the "please love me/busy frames" being a boomer thing when it comes to filmmakers, I think that's much more of a gen x/millennial thing
That was good fun.
Movies I hate
The Northman
It Follows
Enter the Void
Dunkirk
Tenet
Mr. Brooks
The Last Jedi
Death to Smoochy
I actually like that REM song
Dogma is probably my favourite Kevin Smith film
Another Round is the exact opposite movie of Requiem. Trainspotting is the same as Requiem only it’s good
hating It Follows is insane...did you like Under the Silver Lake?
@@gourmetghost Haven’t seen that yet. It Follows had too much of the characters sitting around waiting for the evil. And the evil looking like any random schmuck was lame and not scary
100% agree with all and Ill even go further.. I always found the ORIGINAL heartbreak kid overrated
Great episode. One movie I really hate is "There Will Be Blood." Such an over-rated piece of Oscar-bait. People were quoting that milkshake line for like a year straight, and I really wanted to punch someone.
Juaquin Phoenix is hands down the best actor alive so hmmmmm?!?!
I'm liking you guys MORE and MORE after this .
SOCIETY!