Fun Fact: The Fire Mace has a 75% chance of spawning in a map and, in the original release of the game, would replace the spawn with an enemy that changed based on the episode (E1 would spawn a Disciple, E2 spawned a Weredragon, and E3 would spawn a Ophidian, E4 would instead spawn a shadow sphere.) This was patched out because it caused monsters to potentially glitch out of the map.
2019: Civvie mocks "Doom Conspiracy Theorists" for believing Doom 64 and 2016 are set in the same universe. 2020: Civvie has now become not only a Doom conspiracy theorist, but a full-on ID/Raven games conspiracy theorist as well.
Lol what? When did he ever mock the theorists? He mentioned how D64 guy was a logical midpoint between classic doomguy and the slayer for goodness sakes.
As a kid I always thought (still do, actually) that the staff is the other end of the elven wand. For when it runs out of ammo, just turn it around and bash the enemies with it
I used to play this a lot with two mockingbirds living in a crack in my exterior wall. One of them decided to mimic the imp's cackle, the other decided to mimic the disciples' whispering. Cue me waking up at dawn to that for weeks. NO REGRETS
Wow. Back in my teens like many at the time I'd dream of Doom. I reckon having the disciples 'record-played-backwards shit' sung to me for reals would have sent me over the edge :)
@@crtglowgames Funny you should say that, somewhat later I did end up having a few mental illness episodes. It was going to happen sooner or later, so maybe I should thank Raven!
@@CaileanDarkwater Nabbed from the fandom wiki: If played backwards, the Disciples' chanting turns into meaningful words and phrases. They say "Destroy the Heretic!" and "Succumb to us, Heretic!" Ah, if Civvie hadn't highlighted the main problem with Heretic - everything being a bullet sponge, I'd so get back on it.
@@crtglowgames I did try again a few times but some levels I was just like "ugh". I think I ended up finishing Heretic 2 more often than 1 after that! Also, I guess I've been called heretic enough later to make their chanting make sense. Once I even got called a heretic by a Buddhist organization so I'm kinda proud of that, strangely.
@@CaileanDarkwater Haha, excellent. I played Heretic all the way through a couple of years back on whatever the equivalent of 'Ultra Violence' is but not the crazy 'Nightmare' mode Civvie did, that would have sucked. Didn't know about the secret episode...
Yeah I got lucky and civvie popped up one day on my auto play and I'm better for it. I'm surprised I haven't come across civvie 11 before now. But his humor hooked me right off. Ye old ripeth an teareth. Fucking classic.
Thank you, citizen: "Danny Boi" *The Adeptus Arbites has been informed.* Subject: Heretical Literature. *++Keyword Detected++* ... *++Alerting Inquisition Authorities++* Thank you, citizen: "Danny Boi" An Ordo Maleus agent will be with you shortly. Remain where you are. The Emperor Protects.
@@roberte2945I'm waiting for the day we hear Civvie utter the phrase that every doomer utters when stuck on a janky map "...have I skipped a linedef?"
I am CONVINCED Civvie has been THAT Grognard on a forum, giving advice and then slinking away like some shadowy Wiseman. "Did you remember to tie it to the right Linedef? Also, you're using too much Fireblu."
Yep, that's a good design. Usually when stacking powerups is allowed (in any type of game), 95% of players just keep hoarding them "for the worst times", up until the final boss where they don't even burn through 50% of all the shit they've collected, and end up going "Welp, guess I needed to use these items a bit more often..." To avoid this, Raven is like "Ok, here's the deal, dipshit, we won't allow you to carry too much of this stuff, so now you can actually use it freely in order to make your life easier, as well as spare the protagonist's shoulders from hurting because he has to keep carrying all the junk throughout the whole game on your behalf." I'm glad that I've managed to overcome this stupid ass syndrome a few years back, it's worse than gambling addiction lol
@@ThisBirdHasFlown I remember like I was playing re4 for the first time. I was collecting magnum ammo and almost never used it. Because "What if I'll need it later" I almost never used them. What a shame
@@mitchtheronin1469 Well, the interesting part is that The Heresiarch was originally supposed to be Korax (as you can see in the ending of the third chapter in this game) then for some reason they changed Korax into the Spiky demon and the old one because the Heresiarch. I wonder if Original Korax was supposed to be riding the giant demon, it would look kinda hilarious
@@alster546 Pretty much, maybe they decided that the Heresiarch would be a better miniboss enemy than Korax, as at least two Heresiarch enemies are found in Hexen, end of Hub 3 & 4 and there are some more in the map pack. Hexen on the whole suffered from a lack of enemies.
@@TheSteinin They probably did it because they thought that Hersiarch wasn't "Final boss" enough to be the Final Boss. Originally, he was meant to be D'Sparil's brother (hence him being the second serpent Rider, and why he's so angry to learn of his defeat), before they replaced him with Korax and made him a miniboss, my guess is they also forgot about the cutscene at the end of Chapter 3. The irony is that Hesiarch is actually a harder boss then Korax. Korax can be killed in 10 seconds if you just spam at him with a ring of invincibility. Hesiarch meanwhile can block almost anything, and forces the player to stop and think. Plus, his ability to summon Priests is distinctly similar to D'sparil's ability.
A fun part about D'Sparil. He doesn't retaliate against his disciple's attacks, so if you let him live long enough, his disciples can essentially end up killing him as he's not immune to their damage either.
First seven minutes of this video: "Man, I really want to play some Heretic now and actually beat it myself!" Rest of the video: "You know what, I just want to watch Civvie do this, I don't need to play it myself."
Thankfully, Wayfarer's Tome exists. Because if a game needed better weapon damage, less knockback and more dynamic gameplay in general, that game is Heretic. Seriously, don't play Heretic without Wayfarer's Tome.
Speaking of Id conspiracy theories, here's one: the Strogg aren't aliens, they're humans from a parallel universe that was invaded by the demons from Doom. They turned themselves into emotionless cyborgs so they'd be immune to being tempted/possessed.
@@dooderbug2437 I assume if the Stroggification was to prevent people from being tempted or outright turned into demons, there’s more to it than lobotomy. Otherwise it would be a way for demons to mass produce Cyberzombies.
Heretic: Doom but with inventory. Heretic SotSR: Heretic but some levels are obnoxiously hard. Hexen: Heretic but you don't know where to go and what to do. Hexen DotDC: Hexen but everything is obnoxiously hard. Hexen II: Hexen but you don't even have a map. Hexen II PoP: Hexen II but actually balanced and well-paced. Heretic II: Star Wars: Jedi Knight but Heretic-styled.
Does anyone know why they took out the maps of shooters when they got 3D? I know a 3D map is harder to draw but the game is 3D. I think RavenSoft and many other games suffered from being highly confusing in the no-map era.
Space Marine : *_"Did someone say... HERESY?"_* Mandalore and Civvie upload almost at the same time, I guess they're not the same person afterall That title is reserved for a certain African Warlord xD
That doesn't stop them from being the same. It could go deeper. Two separate computers with two separate accounts set up, timed to upload at different times. The conspiracy theories are infinite.
When Civvie talked about the Turn-Monsters-To-Chickens Thing, there was severe lack of "God I love this game." Edit 1: THE FUCK HOW DID THESE GET SO MUCH LIKES WHO THE FUKC LIKES MY COMMENT? THIS MY MOST LIKED COMMENT.
@@panthekirb7561 Heretic isn't that bad sure it's can be tedious towards the end of the game in the final episodes but that doesn't take away the fact that it's a good I.D/Raven Doom clone, well in my opinion anyway.
20:23 let's not forget that, in the same room, you get Gauntlets of the Necromancer, Shadow Sphere AND Tome of Power. These three combined allow you to effortlessly kill both Iron Liches in about twenty seconds and not even break a sweat.
@@DinnerForkTongue Oh, I tested that. Drain from the gauntlets basically mitigates anything that isn't a one-shot kill, even on Black Plague Possesses Thee.
When I played Doom for the first time, I said to myself "Well, this isn't so hard, why do a lot of people have problems with this game". And now I see why I thought so at the time - because I played Heretic before I played Doom.
Right! Yeah the enemies are a tad more bullet spongy than they ideally whould be, but that's the cost of having no hitscanners. I always felt Heretic had better weapon sounds than Doom (excl. Super Shotty) and the inventory system was also super cool, though it drastically reduced the difficulty. Civvie also undersold a lot of the levels. I loved the looks of a lot of them, like the Guardhouse (E1M3, the initial area looked so cozy and lived-in, despite the Doom engine), the Cathedral (E1M6), the Azure Fortress (E3M4, I always loved the vibrant look of the azure watery texture set), the River of Fire (S2E3, again, the fire texture set looks way more vibrant and fiery than anything found in Doom).
Heretic is damned good game, but enjoying a game also means being honest about it. I love the level design for the most part, but episodes 3, 4, and 5 are massive dicks in the open levels and are quite the slogfest after episode 3.. The pacing kinda falls apart.
Probably because you weren't playing on the insane difficulty. I like civvie but this whole mentality of playing on an insane difficulty and then saying everything is too spongey and hard is really stupid. JUST PUT IT AT A DIFFICULTY YOU ENJOY GODDAMN.
@@randomguy6679 I agree, it's got its problems. I never play without the fan-made midi pack to avoid repeats when I'm bothered to play core game Heretic and not something pike Faithless or The Wayfarer. Schilder did better work in Hexen and Hexen II.
Eight months after the fact, but hey, same here - mother dearest (and anyone in hearing distance really) hated it. I did suggest she buy me headphones but that didn't fly, oddly. Dragon claw pew pew pew through the speakers it is then, mother, you have made a rod for thine own back....
@@AnubitekOfficial that's his worst series, trust ME. Duke Nukem and Serious Sam are better. Trust me. I'm the most trust worthy person alive! (I hate when strangers say "trust me")
I remember when the patreon name scroll at the end was like a dozen people and a cat. Now it's a horde. And the outro loops multiple times. Kids grow so fast these days...
Pro Tip: Get your 11th hour disks and on the last one there's wads of the mansion for Doom 1, Doom 2, and Heretic. That's how big Doom was. Developers completely unassociated with them, making games in entirely different genres like the adventure games that your mom preferred, were sneaking in level maps for Doom. (I'm also entirely convinced that Heretic takes place in the same universe as Catacombs 3D.)
My mom was the same! Her logic was doom has human enemies and guns and since heretic was more magical and monsters it was ok. Like the one above comment I played this game with my mom and dad and when I was really young was just the mouse clicking/shooting guy while my parents did all the moving around. Such a fun game with so many great memories.
@@TheDoomGuy333 Yep, my mom was 100% the same, too, with that exact explanation and everything! I also remember watching my dad play Heretic back then. I was too afraid to play it by myself for a while... I still remember nightmares I had as a kid of the Iron Liches.
Funny that Black Plague is for me easier than Smite-meister because of that. Quicker monsters aren't that much trouble, and I always have ammo problems on Bringest them oneth and especially Smite-meister, so more ammo is welcomed.
@@SpunkMayo Nintendo quality doesn't exist anymore, and hasn't existed for years now. They learned that they can have other devs print money for them if they just publish their shitty unity games on their eshop.
TheRealAtello I wanna argue... but you’re right. The first few consoles had the excuse of “oh they’re just trying to find their footing” but by the GameCube and wii it was clear that shovelware would dominate their systems for the foreseeable future. Not to say there isn’t good stuff on these consoles, but to find that you’re gonna need to dig for a bit.
@@AnimatedTerror the GameCube doesn't even come close to the wii in terms of shovelware, shovelware devs focused their attention on the ps2 during that generation
The perfectly edited The Big Lebowski log jammin' scene made to look like it's on the 3DO while senators and CNN are watching. Flawlessly done. I watched that 6 times in a row. Hilarious. I just love your work.
Dial-up deathmatch with Heretic was some of the most mid 90s fun I ever had, even moreso than Duke Nukem 3D. Turning people into chickens then chasing them around with the gauntlets never got old. Me and my friend must have spent over a hundred hours 1v1 deathmaching on the final episode 1 map: wide open arena for flying shenanigans, chasing chickens, luring the other player into the exploding egg room. Great times.
@@LJ-qh5ni He sounded like he was gonna do it eventually, whenever he actually beat the damn thing because it's apparently hard as Civvie's wang in the presence of Amid Evil.
Descent also has keypatterns, to a degree, the reactor is always locked behind the red key door. I like that kind of consistency because it implies someone in that world set a standard and everyone uses it
@Agent 005 whomever was told to make level 6 was told to introduce drillers and he did so with gusto. I will never forget that screetch they make until the day I die
So when I played through Heretic for the first time, I completely ignored the Shadowsphere, because Doom trained me to hate the projectile-randomizing partial invisibility powerup. And you're telling me it gives you the ghost property so physical attacks just go right through you? I don't even think I'm angry, just numb.
@@thezambambo2184 Basically, all enemy attacks/enemies themselves have a random chance to fire/aim in a completely random direction, not just to the side of you. Partial Invis helps with hitscan enemies the most and CAN help start infighting, but people usually hate it with anything that isn't zombiemen because it fucks with your dodging instinct and makes all projectiles unpredictable.
@@thezambambo2184 Only in Doom. In Heretic certain flagged projectiles (thrown axes, Iron Lich ice balls, and a few more I don't remember so easily) noclip straight through you, and it disables the target-searching AI of the Iron Liches' tornadoes.
I mean, even when I knew that since the 1990s, I only used it in MP play, almost never in singleplayer. It is useful on higher difficulties, especially against Iron Lich's tornado.
*Civvie talking about the Dragon Claw* "I'm gonna apologize in advance for that sound you're gonna hear it often" jokes on you Civvie i love that pew-pew sound of the Dragon Claw!
My favorite weapon, it wrecks Disciples of D'Sparil and stunlocks most enemies. It cleaves through low-level trash and even Iron Lich seems weak to it. I feel that Hell Staff is worse than this.
I unironically thought it was the most badass fps weapon as a kid, partly because of the sound. Id never heard ANYONE dislike the sound until civvie, which *shocked* me. 🙀
@@jakublulek3261 That is pure confirmation bias. The Dragon Claw deals more damage per ammo but it fires so much more slowly that its DPS doesn't even compare, and its stunlock is much worse as a result as well. It only has a leg up on the Hellstaff because A) it doesn't knock enemies to the sides, only back, and B) it can be fired from behind props that block projectiles, but not hitscan. Heck, not only does it _not_ deal extra damage to Iron Liches, they outright resist the rippers from its Tome version.
I loved this game more than Doom primarily because it had such a beautiful color palette and unmatched sense of place. I REALLY have had the desire to play it again lately, but wonder how well it holds up. As much as I loved it back in the day, I have never done another play-through.
Just crack out e1m1. Probably the one you played most if you were like me and had the demo as a kid. I feel sure that atmosphere and sense of place holds up.
Same here, I find Doom and Doom 2 boring and confusing, for some reason Heretic with all it's secrets just clicks with me much better. It is more colourful, enemy roster is more interesting, weapons are classic, level design, especially in episode 2 and 3, is close to perfect. First episode always drags a bit but after that, amazing.
I had a thing for a while where I used to have a complete playthrough of Heretic every Xmas ;) and I was a very proficient player of all the 3D classics. Great video!
One thing I love about D'Sparil is how he doesn't settle for a regular medieval stronghold or fortress like most fantasy villains do, but instead does a big flex and builds a complete underwater base at the bottom of an ocean, and one that only can be reached through a portal deep within hell.
*1:* "Pro Heretic soon, fellow stalker!" "When?" *"N O W"* *2:* Order of the Triad, you say? ...aaaand now I'm sad that Venture Bros got cancelled. Fucking Adult Swim... *3:* Loved that Dungeons gag. This is why I love this goddamn channel, alongside the kinds of games it covers. *4:* The Tome of Power is such a cool powerup that Amid Evil made it a core game mechanic. Functionally it's kinda like the Quad Damage, but with how it changes how the weapons work, it makes Quad Damage look like vanilla missionary with a side of plain toast in comparison. Once I finally start working on Duskrune, you bet your ass I'm gonna give Ralsei a Tome of Power/Soul Mode analogue later on, 'cause he's gonna have most of the magic weapons. *5:* Yeowch. Now I remember why I only got so far into the expansion levels, even on the medium skill. *6:* Oh Civvie, you spoil us! Pro Death Wish confirmed!
Time Bomb of the Ancients wasn't a disappointment... you backpedal or sidestep and drop a few strategically. That's why you find them in large quantities.
This. They are perfect to drop in front of approaching Golems and Sabreclaws, and absolutely INVALUABLE in Faithless against even Iron Liches and Brown Chaos Serpents.
For some reason I had false memories of the Tome even being in Hexen, even though it wasn't (but it was in Hexen 2, which aside from the demo I never played in full). You're right though, it is a great concept. Heretic is a hugely inspiring game to me. Growing up, Doom & GTA2 were like my two favorite games. If Heretic can be thought of as a commercial level Fantasy themed "Total Conversion" for Doom, one of my childhood ambitions was making a Total Conversion/ GTA2 style game with the dark fantasy theme of Heretic, with magic projectile weapons instead of guns, & instead of GTA2's gang based mission system, you would work for different guilds/ clans whose respect/ trust you'd have to similarly earn, playing the different competing Fantasy factions off of each other. I still hope to make such a game someday. And no lie, there's only about six or seven games in existence with the 2.5D aesthetic of GTA2 in existence (top down perspective, Sprite based objects & actors in a 3D world). Two of which are also from the creators of Heretic, Raven Software! Those being Take No Prisoners & MageSlayer (Mage Slayer is similar in tone to Hexen & Heretic). The other games in this style are: GTA1, GTA2, Project Paradise, Machine Hunter, & Loaded for the PSX gets an honorary inclusion despite not being true top down (I include it because the Sprite Work Is based off of the same art limitation techniques of the time: taking shaded 3D model renders & converting them into 2D sprites due to engine limitations of the time, populating a top down 3D world with them). It's an aesthetic I absolutely love & feel definitely is deserving of having its legacy continued (funny thing is about half of the games on the list that I named also all came out in the year 1997)
Big thanks to Civvie for finally showing me this one. I didn't play Heretic back in the day, I was more for Doom and Quake. But when I heard this game actually is challenging, I was intrigued, because I'm one of those crazy fckers that enjoy pistol-starting Plutonia with fast monsters enabled (thanks to decino for showing me this.) I've played through it once now on black plague, enjoyed it, and yes, it's an absolute dick in some places, and have just started my wand-commenceth run on black plague. There's no HeretiCon, is there?
Despite having played most of them, and watching all your videos on them, I'll never be not confused by the story relationship and order of release of the Hexen and Heretic games.
Fun Fact: The Fire Mace has a 75% chance of spawning in a map and, in the original release of the game, would replace the spawn with an enemy that changed based on the episode (E1 would spawn a Disciple, E2 spawned a Weredragon, and E3 would spawn a Ophidian, E4 would instead spawn a shadow sphere.) This was patched out because it caused monsters to potentially glitch out of the map.
do you know how to changue the controls of the base game to something like he is play
ing it
@@mateosalom4530 You use a source port?
@@hebonky source port like if i buy it for steam? anyways i already kinda solved but it still keep moving with the mouse idk how to fix that
2019: Civvie mocks "Doom Conspiracy Theorists" for believing Doom 64 and 2016 are set in the same universe.
2020: Civvie has now become not only a Doom conspiracy theorist, but a full-on ID/Raven games conspiracy theorist as well.
AT LAST HE TRULY SEES
Alex Jones: Kill the child.
Lol what? When did he ever mock the theorists? He mentioned how D64 guy was a logical midpoint between classic doomguy and the slayer for goodness sakes.
The roosters in the OTHER hen house now, ey?
To me the canon of Doom is Doom, Doom 2, and Doom 64, that is it.
As a kid I always thought (still do, actually) that the staff is the other end of the elven wand. For when it runs out of ammo, just turn it around and bash the enemies with it
That was exactly my idea
Sir you're a goddamn genius
@George Corbul It isn’t. The names of the weapons and Heretic 2 shows this.
I'm pretty sure that is exactly how the official strategy guide described the wand and staff.
You're a godamn genius, sir!
"What's that? There's only THIRTY FIVE more maps?"
I love the pain in his voice.
It gave me a chuckle.
He does seem to complain a lot, unless that is just his humour... lol
I used to play this a lot with two mockingbirds living in a crack in my exterior wall.
One of them decided to mimic the imp's cackle, the other decided to mimic the disciples' whispering.
Cue me waking up at dawn to that for weeks. NO REGRETS
Wow. Back in my teens like many at the time I'd dream of Doom. I reckon having the disciples 'record-played-backwards shit' sung to me for reals would have sent me over the edge :)
@@crtglowgames Funny you should say that, somewhat later I did end up having a few mental illness episodes. It was going to happen sooner or later, so maybe I should thank Raven!
@@CaileanDarkwater Nabbed from the fandom wiki:
If played backwards, the Disciples' chanting turns into meaningful words and phrases. They say "Destroy the Heretic!" and "Succumb to us, Heretic!"
Ah, if Civvie hadn't highlighted the main problem with Heretic - everything being a bullet sponge, I'd so get back on it.
@@crtglowgames I did try again a few times but some levels I was just like "ugh". I think I ended up finishing Heretic 2 more often than 1 after that!
Also, I guess I've been called heretic enough later to make their chanting make sense. Once I even got called a heretic by a Buddhist organization so I'm kinda proud of that, strangely.
@@CaileanDarkwater Haha, excellent. I played Heretic all the way through a couple of years back on whatever the equivalent of 'Ultra Violence' is but not the crazy 'Nightmare' mode Civvie did, that would have sucked. Didn't know about the secret episode...
“Ye olde Ripeth and Teareth.” Already in love
Ah, I haven’t seen a Shoesuke in a while.
See GMOTA for Doom
Oi SHOESUKE how’s okyashoe
Yeah I got lucky and civvie popped up one day on my auto play and I'm better for it. I'm surprised I haven't come across civvie 11 before now. But his humor hooked me right off. Ye old ripeth an teareth. Fucking classic.
I love medieval english
"Professional Heresy" sounds like a guide book for 40k Chaos factions
Danny Boi yes it does
Fairly sure that's the title of the leaflet that Lorgar handed out to his traitor brothers.
"I Cast Aside My Naive Belief in the False Emperor, and So Can You!"
An Introduction to Professional Heresy
By Horus
horus did nothing wrong
lorgar is still listening to linkin loyalist
Thank you, citizen: "Danny Boi"
*The Adeptus Arbites has been informed.*
Subject: Heretical Literature.
*++Keyword Detected++*
...
*++Alerting Inquisition Authorities++*
Thank you, citizen: "Danny Boi"
An Ordo Maleus agent will be with you shortly.
Remain where you are.
The Emperor Protects.
I thought this video was going to be about Randy Pitchford's career.
Right? 😂
Don't you worry. The Day of Reckoning for Pitchford will come. Sooner or later, it always comes.
@@TheTrueMerrio when will he go to jail though? It's been a long time coming
Carmack and Newell will come and reign holy gaming fire upon pitchford.
Just you wait..
Aren't they all?
"Is that a blocking linedef, motherfucker" is probably the nerdiest of all badass one liners.
You're not a real Doomer until you've opened a map in an editor to figure out what the hell a switch opened.
@@roberte2945 to quote Ross Scott’s Doomguy’s Mind:
“What the fuck did that switch do?”
@@roberte2945
I've done this (thanks, BTSX Episode 2) and I still feel called out. 😂
@@roberte2945I'm waiting for the day we hear Civvie utter the phrase that every doomer utters when stuck on a janky map
"...have I skipped a linedef?"
I am CONVINCED Civvie has been THAT Grognard on a forum, giving advice and then slinking away like some shadowy Wiseman.
"Did you remember to tie it to the right Linedef? Also, you're using too much Fireblu."
The fact that you can only hang on to one of each powerup between levels encourages you to make use of them, nice going Raven.
I agree. It’s a very simple but smart tactic
Yep, that's a good design. Usually when stacking powerups is allowed (in any type of game), 95% of players just keep hoarding them "for the worst times", up until the final boss where they don't even burn through 50% of all the shit they've collected, and end up going "Welp, guess I needed to use these items a bit more often..." To avoid this, Raven is like "Ok, here's the deal, dipshit, we won't allow you to carry too much of this stuff, so now you can actually use it freely in order to make your life easier, as well as spare the protagonist's shoulders from hurting because he has to keep carrying all the junk throughout the whole game on your behalf."
I'm glad that I've managed to overcome this stupid ass syndrome a few years back, it's worse than gambling addiction lol
@@ThisBirdHasFlown I remember like I was playing re4 for the first time. I was collecting magnum ammo and almost never used it. Because "What if I'll need it later" I almost never used them. What a shame
I find it funny how D'Sparil is the only Serpent Rider that, you know, actually rides a Serpent.
If thats funny, what about the idea of korax riding one 🤔
@@mitchtheronin1469 Well, the interesting part is that The Heresiarch was originally supposed to be Korax (as you can see in the ending of the third chapter in this game) then for some reason they changed Korax into the Spiky demon and the old one because the Heresiarch. I wonder if Original Korax was supposed to be riding the giant demon, it would look kinda hilarious
D'Sparil is the only one who rides a serpent into battle, if you know what I mean
@@alster546 Pretty much, maybe they decided that the Heresiarch would be a better miniboss enemy than Korax, as at least two Heresiarch enemies are found in Hexen, end of Hub 3 & 4 and there are some more in the map pack. Hexen on the whole suffered from a lack of enemies.
@@TheSteinin They probably did it because they thought that Hersiarch wasn't "Final boss" enough to be the Final Boss. Originally, he was meant to be D'Sparil's brother (hence him being the second serpent Rider, and why he's so angry to learn of his defeat), before they replaced him with Korax and made him a miniboss, my guess is they also forgot about the cutscene at the end of Chapter 3.
The irony is that Hesiarch is actually a harder boss then Korax. Korax can be killed in 10 seconds if you just spam at him with a ring of invincibility. Hesiarch meanwhile can block almost anything, and forces the player to stop and think. Plus, his ability to summon Priests is distinctly similar to D'sparil's ability.
Civvie 11 is my malt liquor: kills the pain of living fast and cheap, and doesn't require a doctor's prescription, not yet, at least.
In my country and other normal countries you can drink that if are 18 years old,in USA 21.
And its consumption is outlawed. Civvie himself is already isolated from society for that. (Or maybe because his work in Postal 4's universe)
*cut to Kiryu drinking*
The reason why maultaurs have less health than hell knights is because their ass is flat and hell knights got that wagon
@@ruffusgoodman4137 I love that Civvie 11 is fucking cannon to the Postal universe
The disciple of d'sparil attack sound sounds like they're saying "teriyaki" and it still cracks me up.
disciple and d'sparil sounds are actually in English played backwards, there defo used to be a TH-cam vid showing it
As a spanish-speaking person, you can't imagine the farfetched things those dudes seem to say in spanish.
And their opening sound is saying something about teeth.
@@thom_wye
I found this.
th-cam.com/video/X5Qmqf6MIUY/w-d-xo.html
And see while you heard "teriyaki", I heard "Harry Watson" as they fired their projectiles.
A fun part about D'Sparil. He doesn't retaliate against his disciple's attacks, so if you let him live long enough, his disciples can essentially end up killing him as he's not immune to their damage either.
"Heretic" is basically the first reason why I became a dark fantasy writer. Thanks for the film Civvie, I really enjoyed it!
My mind would also drift of into dark fantasy's, if I had to kill that many enemys then die to a had full of iron lichs.
Where can I read your stuff
I'd love to read your stuff
FatherOf Iz hes on a site called bdsmlr.com
@@Louie_The_Dago nice
All this time talking about Raven Software and now here we are. Good on ya.
where? in the call of duty gulag
Now he just need to complete both hexen
Hexen is one of my favorite games ever. I always get stuck in the caves near the end.
E3 reminding me of fy_poolday
Make a new Heretic/Hexen game and just slap a CoD label on it lmao
Heretic: "Ye olde ripeth and teareth"
Commander Keen: "Ye olde Zappeth and Zappeth"
Rise of the Triad: "Ye olde this-game-is-undeerateth"
Duke 3D: "ye olde cometh and get someth"
Yeah but who would want old wang?
@@alexlee4154 *Whom wouldst wanteth ye olde wangeth
Rise of the Triad: "Eateth Lead, taffer!"
If Civvie makes videos this good while stuck in a dungeon, imagine how good they’d be if he wasn’t stuck down there.
#FreeCivvie
He's probably be off enjoying life somewhere.
@@SpunkMayo and these series of videos probably wouldn't exist. Let him be stuck there and make content for us.
@@sunfl0wer_988 #dontfreecivvie
Limitations breed creativity
(This message is sponsored by the Department of Special Corrections)
You ever heard of "art from adversity?"
First seven minutes of this video:
"Man, I really want to play some Heretic now and actually beat it myself!"
Rest of the video:
"You know what, I just want to watch Civvie do this, I don't need to play it myself."
Lol thats exactly how i felt
Thankfully, Wayfarer's Tome exists. Because if a game needed better weapon damage, less knockback and more dynamic gameplay in general, that game is Heretic.
Seriously, don't play Heretic without Wayfarer's Tome.
Speaking of Id conspiracy theories, here's one: the Strogg aren't aliens, they're humans from a parallel universe that was invaded by the demons from Doom. They turned themselves into emotionless cyborgs so they'd be immune to being tempted/possessed.
It would explain how the Stroggification process was so effective on humans.
It's not that drastic though?
Why wouldn't a fancy lobomization work beyond the normal risks of a lobotomy.
@@dooderbug2437 I assume if the Stroggification was to prevent people from being tempted or outright turned into demons, there’s more to it than lobotomy. Otherwise it would be a way for demons to mass produce Cyberzombies.
I thought that they were the humans from the first Quake, hell, don't they even use the same skull with wings logo?
And revenants, Mancubi, spider demons, arachnotrons and cyber demons, are all demons that got ahold of the strings technology
Heretic: Doom but with inventory.
Heretic SotSR: Heretic but some levels are obnoxiously hard.
Hexen: Heretic but you don't know where to go and what to do.
Hexen DotDC: Hexen but everything is obnoxiously hard.
Hexen II: Hexen but you don't even have a map.
Hexen II PoP: Hexen II but actually balanced and well-paced.
Heretic II: Star Wars: Jedi Knight but Heretic-styled.
Shame that I will never get to play the expansion pack for Hexen II.
apere431 unless you download the ultimate patch.
@@primevaltimes there's also a great sourceport called Hammer of Thyrion
Тимофей Воронов which the ultimate patch contains.😉
Does anyone know why they took out the maps of shooters when they got 3D? I know a 3D map is harder to draw but the game is 3D. I think RavenSoft and many other games suffered from being highly confusing in the no-map era.
I like how Corvus' sprite looks like he isn't wearing any pants.
Well, that's the bonus of wearing robes.
I like that too ;)
he is way to much into vengeance who needs pants for that ,also he wants to intimitade D'sparil with his serpent if you know what i mean
Explains the look of the Dragon Claw. Long, thick, skinny shaft in the middle of the screen..?
@@peterjohnson9438 You have the perfect name for such a comment ;p
This is the game that got me into computer gaming as a kid.
That's cool. I can remember my game, but not the title
Can relate. My first game ever was Doom 1 then Heretic. Played the absolute shit out of it when i was a kid. Still do to this day
My first three PC games were Doom2, X-Wing and Heretic so I can relate. ^^
Im a little disappointed that its not doom
first game I played as well. I remember being terrified of the Iron Liches lmao
-CV: "Yeld ripeth and teareth"
-Corvus gains a doomguy helmet
-medieval e1m1 starts
I just love this show
Ye old, not yeld.
@@LerRhann ye olde, not ye old or yeld
Have at thee!
@@Skiivin ye ye ass haircut
@@flooku987 yeet
31:38 I guess Civvie did remember how to pronounce "demesne" after Pro Sigil.
deep lore
One of my favorite novels, Tooth and Claw, uses that word all the time and I never knew how it was pronounced
"What if Doom, but fantasy" -Rohn Jomero.
You mean Raven Software.
A.K.A QUAKE
What if DOOM but like...D&D?
@@FireFoxBancroft No. Romero. It was Romero's concept. Raven developed it.
With a non-gay elf for once.
Space Marine : *_"Did someone say... HERESY?"_*
Mandalore and Civvie upload almost at the same time, I guess they're not the same person afterall
That title is reserved for a certain African Warlord xD
Deploy the EXTERMINATUS
Is it Agutu Mbike? The Jewish merchant child soldier turned game reviewer?
That doesn't stop them from being the same. It could go deeper. Two separate computers with two separate accounts set up, timed to upload at different times. The conspiracy theories are infinite.
Didn't it happen last time? I'm sure I remember commenting on it.
hay hay people
"Professional Heresy"
*Inquisition wants to know your location*
*Exterminatus wants to know your location*
BURN IN HOLY FIRE!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
I exhaled from my nose rather quickly
I find Imperium of man jokes kinda weird here since basically ruinous powers of Chaos are those who claim Corvus heretic.
Lady Immersion's Crusaders want to know your location
That Civvie's Dungeon map in Heretic was really well done lmfao
If Heretic/Hexen could ever get the eternal treatment....
THIS IS LITERALLY THE GREATEST SUGGESTION EVER!!!!!
...almost literally.
Amid Evil was pretty good
ZeniMax just needs to buy the developing rights, and then get Roundhouse Studios and/or id Software on the job.
The closest we're getting to that is probably Amid Evil.
The worst possible idea if I've ever read one.
Heretic shows that even elves can be manly hunks.
Corvus have a very cool sprite. Incredible how back them they could make cool protagonists. Corvus is one of the most badass looking mages i know
Kevin that’s left handed people
@@Kevin-jb2pv Found the dwarf.
@@Kevin-jb2pv seethe dwarf boy
@@Kevin-jb2pv i thought those were the lizard men, but ok.
When Civvie talked about the Turn-Monsters-To-Chickens Thing, there was severe lack of "God I love this game."
Edit 1: THE FUCK HOW DID THESE GET SO MUCH LIKES WHO THE FUKC LIKES MY COMMENT? THIS MY MOST LIKED COMMENT.
considering the later parts of the game, i don think he loves it anymore...
That’s how I feel playing Ratchet and Clank. “I can turn aliens and robots into sheep??? God I love this game.”
@Stix N' Stones Going Commando. The original had a chicken gun iirc
I haven't seen the video yet but Heretic is pretty bad compared to Doom (even if its good compared to most shooters released in 1994).
@@panthekirb7561 Heretic isn't that bad sure it's can be tedious towards the end of the game in the final episodes but that doesn't take away the fact that it's a good I.D/Raven Doom clone, well in my opinion anyway.
Civvie's watch history implies he's questioning whether he's on drugs or possessed by a demon
Considering his experimentation by his captors and experience with the arcane, likely both
Turns out that was yet more foreshadowing.
Yes
Either way it's strong stuff
@@1000drman how would you know what possession feels like?
20:23 let's not forget that, in the same room, you get Gauntlets of the Necromancer, Shadow Sphere AND Tome of Power. These three combined allow you to effortlessly kill both Iron Liches in about twenty seconds and not even break a sweat.
Even Shadow Sphere is optional, provided you already killed all the gargoyles surrounding the first lich.
I'm not sure about that. Iron Liches bite HELLA hard.
@@DinnerForkTongue Oh, I tested that. Drain from the gauntlets basically mitigates anything that isn't a one-shot kill, even on Black Plague Possesses Thee.
@@GoodRogue
Nice, good info to have. If I'm ever out of shield but have a tome, I may just rush down a lone Lich.
@@DinnerForkTongue Caution is still advised. But doable nonetheless.
I used to play this game a lot with mom! So happy to see Heretic still getting some love!! Thanks for the video man! LOVED IT!
Your mom sounds awesome, wholesome af
@@mzamethodman7134 She is! Thanx man
When I played Doom for the first time, I said to myself "Well, this isn't so hard, why do a lot of people have problems with this game". And now I see why I thought so at the time - because I played Heretic before I played Doom.
I read "heresy" and came here as fast as I could. * loads bolter with holy intent *
*Skitarii Arc Rifle sound intensifies*
I, too, came immediately 😔🤚
Blood for the Blood God! Skulls for the Skull Throne!
Inquisition Intensifies
You and your corpse god are weak! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!
Hearing Civvie rip on this is just like
"But I liked heretic..."
Right! Yeah the enemies are a tad more bullet spongy than they ideally whould be, but that's the cost of having no hitscanners.
I always felt Heretic had better weapon sounds than Doom (excl. Super Shotty) and the inventory system was also super cool, though it drastically reduced the difficulty.
Civvie also undersold a lot of the levels. I loved the looks of a lot of them, like the Guardhouse (E1M3, the initial area looked so cozy and lived-in, despite the Doom engine), the Cathedral (E1M6), the Azure Fortress (E3M4, I always loved the vibrant look of the azure watery texture set), the River of Fire (S2E3, again, the fire texture set looks way more vibrant and fiery than anything found in Doom).
Heretic is damned good game, but enjoying a game also means being honest about it. I love the level design for the most part, but episodes 3, 4, and 5 are massive dicks in the open levels and are quite the slogfest after episode 3.. The pacing kinda falls apart.
Probably because you weren't playing on the insane difficulty. I like civvie but this whole mentality of playing on an insane difficulty and then saying everything is too spongey and hard is really stupid. JUST PUT IT AT A DIFFICULTY YOU ENJOY GODDAMN.
He literally says he enjoys playing the game tho.
@@XhumpersX It's called 'Professional', not Mediocre. Pro is usually played at the hardest sane difficulty. i.e. No respawns or forced gibs (Duke3D)
I can't stress enough how I love the soundtrack for this game and how big of an impact it had on me.
I always found the score pretty forgettable compared to other 90s shooters
Kevin Schilder was great!
@@randomguy6679 I agree, it's got its problems. I never play without the fan-made midi pack to avoid repeats when I'm bothered to play core game Heretic and not something pike Faithless or The Wayfarer. Schilder did better work in Hexen and Hexen II.
"The Chasm."
Oh god, no! :Watermark of Sandy Peterson:
I fuckin' died
The only thing The Chasm in Doom 2 had going for it was the music... I can actually say that about a fair number of Doom 2's maps.
@@roberte2945 Hard to hear the music over Doom Guy's constant anguished screams as he melts into acid. R.I.P.
I kind of liked the dragonclaw's pew pew sound. It drove my mom mad.
Yeah, I love it too. Fels stronk, but I get why people might get annoyed with it.
Eight months after the fact, but hey, same here - mother dearest (and anyone in hearing distance really) hated it. I did suggest she buy me headphones but that didn't fly, oddly. Dragon claw pew pew pew through the speakers it is then, mother, you have made a rod for thine own back....
Damn son! This is THE most enjoyable gaming channel that I have ever seen. I just found Civvie recently and I'm so glad I did!
@@AnubitekOfficial that's his worst series, trust ME. Duke Nukem and Serious Sam are better. Trust me. I'm the most trust worthy person alive!
(I hate when strangers say "trust me")
I remember when the patreon name scroll at the end was like a dozen people and a cat.
Now it's a horde. And the outro loops multiple times.
Kids grow so fast these days...
@@AnubitekOfficial Starting to watch it now. Thanks for the recommendation!
@@ballzinferno9793 Well I plan to watch every single video he has ever made, so Its no issue. :D
@@Lazarusjpn good call
My brother used to call the Shadowsphere simply "Jack Nicholson."
I... I don't get it
Idkw but that's funny
its the face on the icon
@@Intestine_Ballin-ism He mistook the fangs as facial grooves or whatever the hell they are called, kinda looks line Jack grinning like a madman.
Pro Tip: Get your 11th hour disks and on the last one there's wads of the mansion for Doom 1, Doom 2, and Heretic.
That's how big Doom was. Developers completely unassociated with them, making games in entirely different genres like the adventure games that your mom preferred, were sneaking in level maps for Doom.
(I'm also entirely convinced that Heretic takes place in the same universe as Catacombs 3D.)
I loved this game as a kid. I remember my mom wouldnt let me play Doom or Duke Nukem but let me play this all night.
My mom was the same! Her logic was doom has human enemies and guns and since heretic was more magical and monsters it was ok. Like the one above comment I played this game with my mom and dad and when I was really young was just the mouse clicking/shooting guy while my parents did all the moving around. Such a fun game with so many great memories.
@@TheDoomGuy333
Yep, my mom was 100% the same, too, with that exact explanation and everything! I also remember watching my dad play Heretic back then. I was too afraid to play it by myself for a while... I still remember nightmares I had as a kid of the Iron Liches.
@@TheJaggedCarpet haha, i love it. Ah, being a kid is so much fun.
Good move calling this one 'Professional' Heresy. Wouldn't want the Inquisition getting the idea that Civvie was "Pro-Heresy"
Did someone say.... "HERESY!?"
Lol
18:40
Hey Civvie, enemy ass tier list when?
1. Cacodemon
0. Lost Soul
9. Mancubus
1,5.Barons of hell
*HDoom intensifies*
So they used to give you MORE ammo on harder difficulty's, that's great
Funny that Black Plague is for me easier than Smite-meister because of that. Quicker monsters aren't that much trouble, and I always have ammo problems on Bringest them oneth and especially Smite-meister, so more ammo is welcomed.
Doom did that in Nightmare to help you deal with the respawning monsters. The problem is the monsters don't respawn here.
I love that little laugh corvus does
"You don't give a shit about Heretic, you just want to see me suffer"
Touché
Mandatory "hey civvie, did you know Postal 1 getting Switch port?" comment.
Beyond surprised Nintendo is supporting this. And happy.
@@SpunkMayo Nintendo quality doesn't exist anymore, and hasn't existed for years now. They learned that they can have other devs print money for them if they just publish their shitty unity games on their eshop.
TheRealAtello I wanna argue... but you’re right. The first few consoles had the excuse of “oh they’re just trying to find their footing” but by the GameCube and wii it was clear that shovelware would dominate their systems for the foreseeable future.
Not to say there isn’t good stuff on these consoles, but to find that you’re gonna need to dig for a bit.
@@AnimatedTerror the GameCube doesn't even come close to the wii in terms of shovelware, shovelware devs focused their attention on the ps2 during that generation
Was gonna say, the PS2 had so much blatant trash.
man, that's crazy, i was watching pro doom this week and thought: "Civvie should do a pro heretic" and here we are
As if Normal Heresy wasn't enough.
You need a PhD in heresy to do it right.
@Low Tier BBCFactory What racism? lol. What's bad about so called "Heresy"?
The perfectly edited The Big Lebowski log jammin' scene made to look like it's on the 3DO while senators and CNN are watching. Flawlessly done. I watched that 6 times in a row. Hilarious. I just love your work.
More people knowing about and playing Heretic is always a good thing.
*Reads title*: Brother, bring me the flamer, the heavy flamer.
Xenos?
"Corvus demandeth the what, verily!?"
@Nova Leader Xenos.
cdcdrr The Heavy Flamer brother
Purge them with holy fire.
Oh, Civvie, you can't hide that "Professsional" typo from me.
“Next time it gets bloody”
What could you POSSIBLY be referring to, civvie?
I dunno, do you think he has a Death Wish or something?
There’s still MORE Blood things he’s missed???
Unless he’s referring to a re-recording of The Nightmare Levels. I’m gonna pray for his sanity.
He's going to massacre the remaining bronies?
@@tsarbutterfly663 what civvie is referring to is Death Wish, an extremely well regarded mod for blood
In the light of Heretic/Hexen being prequels to Rise of the Triad, ROT boss and his serpentine, egg-laying habits suddenly make more sense.
Corvus is actually the wizard guy in the beginning of Return to castle Wolfenstein
Dial-up deathmatch with Heretic was some of the most mid 90s fun I ever had, even moreso than Duke Nukem 3D. Turning people into chickens then chasing them around with the gauntlets never got old. Me and my friend must have spent over a hundred hours 1v1 deathmaching on the final episode 1 map: wide open arena for flying shenanigans, chasing chickens, luring the other player into the exploding egg room. Great times.
"My dragons claws codspiece ams the coolest!"
-Toki Wartooth
a man of culture,
Brutal
I am really disappointed there wasn't single "MAGIC CLAW" sound effect while dragon claw was on screen.
Such an underappreciated game. I know platformers aren't his shtick, but I hope he does Claw someday.
@@LJ-qh5ni He sounded like he was gonna do it eventually, whenever he actually beat the damn thing because it's apparently hard as Civvie's wang in the presence of Amid Evil.
I just hear the Toy Story aliens go “The Clawwwww!” In myhead, tbh.
He actually did the magic claw joke in the heretic 2 video
@@LJ-qh5ni its more of a reference to the shogo video, which in turn is a reference to that game
John Romero randomly spitablling that Raven’s games are connected to RoTT is insane. bless this man
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night when Civvie?
Don't think I didn't catch that SOTN menu music in the Doom 2 video.
Im sorry, I thought he didnt play overrated games
@@randomguy6679 Can still appreciate the classics dude. Don't be a hater.
I have to imagine he'd play one of the really bad 3D ones before the classic that everyone already knows is good.
@@randomguy6679 The only overrated game he has played so far is Quake. SOTN isn't overrated at all.
@@randomguy6679 Civvie himself said he likes SOTN a lot, so.much that he watched the Anime with lot of hype
Descent also has keypatterns, to a degree, the reactor is always locked behind the red key door. I like that kind of consistency because it implies someone in that world set a standard and everyone uses it
Blue key -> Yellow Key -> Red key. Damn, Civvie really should pro Descent, one of my three favourite PC games of all time.
I'd watch the shit out of Civvie-11 playing Descent... Though he's gonna fucking hate the Vulcan drillers.
Yeah, light drillers are pretty much universally hated.
( Though I would argue that the red hulks are worse. )
@Agent 005 whomever was told to make level 6 was told to introduce drillers and he did so with gusto. I will never forget that screetch they make until the day I die
Mandalore and Civvie videos within an hour? I feel spoilt
First Mandalore and then Civvie?
*My God...*
@@jerryjantola Third personality revealed?
it's a conspiracy from the illuminati I swear!
Within 15 minutes actually
Very nice, but where's the Sseth video then?
So when I played through Heretic for the first time, I completely ignored the Shadowsphere, because Doom trained me to hate the projectile-randomizing partial invisibility powerup. And you're telling me it gives you the ghost property so physical attacks just go right through you?
I don't even think I'm angry, just numb.
Is that what what partial invis does? I thought it made them more likely to shoot off to the side or something
@@thezambambo2184 Basically, all enemy attacks/enemies themselves have a random chance to fire/aim in a completely random direction, not just to the side of you. Partial Invis helps with hitscan enemies the most and CAN help start infighting, but people usually hate it with anything that isn't zombiemen because it fucks with your dodging instinct and makes all projectiles unpredictable.
@@thezambambo2184
Only in Doom. In Heretic certain flagged projectiles (thrown axes, Iron Lich ice balls, and a few more I don't remember so easily) noclip straight through you, and it disables the target-searching AI of the Iron Liches' tornadoes.
@Stefano Pavone hm?
I mean, even when I knew that since the 1990s, I only used it in MP play, almost never in singleplayer. It is useful on higher difficulties, especially against Iron Lich's tornado.
the colors palet in this games is one of the best ever
*Civvie talking about the Dragon Claw*
"I'm gonna apologize in advance for that sound you're gonna hear it often"
jokes on you Civvie i love that pew-pew sound of the Dragon Claw!
My favorite weapon, it wrecks Disciples of D'Sparil and stunlocks most enemies. It cleaves through low-level trash and even Iron Lich seems weak to it. I feel that Hell Staff is worse than this.
I unironically thought it was the most badass fps weapon as a kid, partly because of the sound. Id never heard ANYONE dislike the sound until civvie, which *shocked* me. 🙀
That sound is AWESOME!
@@jakublulek3261 That is pure confirmation bias. The Dragon Claw deals more damage per ammo but it fires so much more slowly that its DPS doesn't even compare, and its stunlock is much worse as a result as well. It only has a leg up on the Hellstaff because A) it doesn't knock enemies to the sides, only back, and B) it can be fired from behind props that block projectiles, but not hitscan.
Heck, not only does it _not_ deal extra damage to Iron Liches, they outright resist the rippers from its Tome version.
I loved this game more than Doom primarily because it had such a beautiful color palette and unmatched sense of place. I REALLY have had the desire to play it again lately, but wonder how well it holds up. As much as I loved it back in the day, I have never done another play-through.
Just crack out e1m1. Probably the one you played most if you were like me and had the demo as a kid. I feel sure that atmosphere and sense of place holds up.
Same here, I find Doom and Doom 2 boring and confusing, for some reason Heretic with all it's secrets just clicks with me much better. It is more colourful, enemy roster is more interesting, weapons are classic, level design, especially in episode 2 and 3, is close to perfect. First episode always drags a bit but after that, amazing.
It’s so hard to wait for new civvie videos, especially when you have seen every video already
I had a thing for a while where I used to have a complete playthrough of Heretic every Xmas ;) and I was a very proficient player of all the 3D classics. Great video!
Me too, I would play a lot Heretic + Quake 1 and its expansions during each winter because they always felt strangely fitting during that season
One thing I love about D'Sparil is how he doesn't settle for a regular medieval stronghold or fortress like most fantasy villains do, but instead does a big flex and builds a complete underwater base at the bottom of an ocean, and one that only can be reached through a portal deep within hell.
I like how you semi-yell all the informations. Feels intense and that's fitting for this game.
Fan art of Civvie fighting Marry Poppins now plz.
Pro Intro when Civvie?!
Also, great ass comparison. Good info, that's the content why I'm subscribed.
18:57 That is some absolutely beautiful circle strafing right there.
I've never played most of these games but cv11 makes me want too. I love watching these
hey civvie, have you tried dodging the disciples' attacks? they won't hit you if you dodge
Then you need to shoot at them until they die, easy as that
Pro tip: Hitting shots does more damage than missing them
To kill the Cyberdemon, shoot at it untill it dies. :)
"It's not really hard, just tedious."
You're breaking my heart Civvie, I don't even know who you are anymore.
*1:* "Pro Heretic soon, fellow stalker!" "When?" *"N O W"*
*2:* Order of the Triad, you say? ...aaaand now I'm sad that Venture Bros got cancelled. Fucking Adult Swim...
*3:* Loved that Dungeons gag. This is why I love this goddamn channel, alongside the kinds of games it covers.
*4:* The Tome of Power is such a cool powerup that Amid Evil made it a core game mechanic. Functionally it's kinda like the Quad Damage, but with how it changes how the weapons work, it makes Quad Damage look like vanilla missionary with a side of plain toast in comparison. Once I finally start working on Duskrune, you bet your ass I'm gonna give Ralsei a Tome of Power/Soul Mode analogue later on, 'cause he's gonna have most of the magic weapons.
*5:* Yeowch. Now I remember why I only got so far into the expansion levels, even on the medium skill.
*6:* Oh Civvie, you spoil us! Pro Death Wish confirmed!
Duskrune? Whuzzat?
@@mugwump7049 Just a little something I'm working on. It won't be ready for a very long time...
@@GmodPlusWoW Dusk mod?
@@mugwump7049 That's the plan.
More loneliness than any elf could bear
Rescue me before I fall into D'spairl
Nice Message in a Flask reference :P
@@Winnetou17 The Constabulary was a great group!
God the nostalgia
Time Bomb of the Ancients wasn't a disappointment... you backpedal or sidestep and drop a few strategically. That's why you find them in large quantities.
This. They are perfect to drop in front of approaching Golems and Sabreclaws, and absolutely INVALUABLE in Faithless against even Iron Liches and Brown Chaos Serpents.
I played that when I was 10, and I was really afraid of the Iron Liches. They were scary as fuck.
I miss the old Raven Software, they gave us so many fun games back in the days.
@Stix N' Stones :(
Stix N' Stones nah, they’re even worse, they make interactive movies with horrible storytelling
I wish more old school games used the tome of power concept.
For some reason I had false memories of the Tome even being in Hexen, even though it wasn't (but it was in Hexen 2, which aside from the demo I never played in full).
You're right though, it is a great concept. Heretic is a hugely inspiring game to me. Growing up, Doom & GTA2 were like my two favorite games. If Heretic can be thought of as a commercial level Fantasy themed "Total Conversion" for Doom, one of my childhood ambitions was making a Total Conversion/ GTA2 style game with the dark fantasy theme of Heretic, with magic projectile weapons instead of guns, & instead of GTA2's gang based mission system, you would work for different guilds/ clans whose respect/ trust you'd have to similarly earn, playing the different competing Fantasy factions off of each other. I still hope to make such a game someday.
And no lie, there's only about six or seven games in existence with the 2.5D aesthetic of GTA2 in existence (top down perspective, Sprite based objects & actors in a 3D world).
Two of which are also from the creators of Heretic, Raven Software! Those being Take No Prisoners & MageSlayer (Mage Slayer is similar in tone to Hexen & Heretic).
The other games in this style are: GTA1, GTA2, Project Paradise, Machine Hunter, & Loaded for the PSX gets an honorary inclusion despite not being true top down (I include it because the Sprite Work Is based off of the same art limitation techniques of the time: taking shaded 3D model renders & converting them into 2D sprites due to engine limitations of the time, populating a top down 3D world with them).
It's an aesthetic I absolutely love & feel definitely is deserving of having its legacy continued (funny thing is about half of the games on the list that I named also all came out in the year 1997)
I think alt-fires replaced the Tome idea, but there's definitely untapped potential in it.
Doomguy: "Rip... and tear!!"
Corvus: "Ripeth and tear-eth. Cheers mi'ladies" (oh wait that was Pirate talk-)
The tome of power crossbow sounds vaguely like the wookiee bowcaster sound effect in Jedi Outcast/Academy. Also Raven shooter games.
God, the Iron Liches just seeem like the most miserable enemies to fight purely due to the tornadoes.
wait... you made a "dungeon" level for a 10 second skit ? nice
Civvie is quality
I think it's fanmade but if he actually do it himself then ill make 100 account just to subscribe to him
What if the dungeon was always a Doom level?
@@yourewallsareveryconvenien8292 it's probably cv who made it, since from previous videos he has used doom editors and has knowledge on how doom works
@@CB66941 Ah shit....
Well since he's done all the classic dooms and heretic, now we need strife and Chex quest
Boy howdy has this comment aged well.
@@DinnerForkTongue fuckin' a it did, and they were both good videos to boot
“Ye olde rippeth and teareth.” Brb, dying.
Big thanks to Civvie for finally showing me this one. I didn't play Heretic back in the day, I was more for Doom and Quake. But when I heard this game actually is challenging, I was intrigued, because I'm one of those crazy fckers that enjoy pistol-starting Plutonia with fast monsters enabled (thanks to decino for showing me this.) I've played through it once now on black plague, enjoyed it, and yes, it's an absolute dick in some places, and have just started my wand-commenceth run on black plague. There's no HeretiCon, is there?
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the hard limit in Hexen is 25, it's 16 in Heretic, minor detail I know.
Nothing like falling asleep to civvy complaining about game balance
Despite having played most of them, and watching all your videos on them, I'll never be not confused by the story relationship and order of release of the Hexen and Heretic games.
The "ehh" sound he makes when he's injured is the most epicly manly thing I've heard in my life.
Same sound as in Doom 1
Sound design is great on this game
I have never understood the visuals of the Dragon claw, it looks like he has a giant arm in there.
26:45 Theres a crusher ceiling in the next room where you can lure most of the lower level monsters around