Stihl ms201TC, Bench Talk
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ส.ค. 2024
- Filmed in March, 2021.
And one more time, Thanks to Mr. Fisher for allowing me to have this saw "fir" quite a long time - he was expecting Insane-O and received Psy-Ko in return. With any luck he will chime in on how this saw runs in the next viewing in this build sequence.
I was blundering along, yes. Thinking out loud a good number of times, yes as well. In retrospect, I've wrecked things while being in a hurry. So, I now take my time....
I was amazed a number of times at the "over engineered" aspect. I'm a simpleton. I like the KISS method of engineering personally. Overall, it was well thought out inspite of my resistance to change...
Nice little two-pointer with the trigger lock into the "parts bin" @ the 19:45 mark, so God was smiling on me there.
I may, or may not be available for custom saw modifications. Please shoot me an email if you are interested. That is the best, 1st point of contact.
danger_cat@rocketmail.com
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Hello and thanks for enduring... Top handle saws, they are a process. Great little saws for the designated work. Nothing short of a pain to work on.
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When you say antronic controller could you elaborate?
From the uk here and a lot of the time things are called differently and such
Many thanks
@@liamsmith116 hi. M-tronic is what the factory boys call the system the delivers the fuel to the venturi via solenoid that is bolted into the side of the "carb-a-tooter". It uses a double magnet arrangement on the flywheel so the controller - formally known as ignition coil - can monitor the engine's speed and deliver a preset amount - where the fuel mapping term comes from - of fuel from the solenoid into the air stream passing through the carburetor.
Hope this helps.
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"Eventually these saws fall out of a tree"...That was putting it nicely. Thanks for taking it easy on us climbers.
batmantiss hi.
Your welcome. But, anyone that has done, well, anything besides sit at a desk has had "crapp happen". Just the way that it works in this life. Nothing against office workers. They have computer "crapp happening" of course. It's a little different in physical realm.
All the planning, scheming, fretting over how to get a certain thing to happen to have multiple other things go good don't always go "to plan"...
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Couldn't believe I had to take the case apart and remove the flywheel just to take out the coil. Glad I took a ton of pictures, especially putting the linkage back. Great presentation and as always slow and steady wins the race.
Just dropped my 201 30ft onto a rock, so thanks for making this video.
you put out some of the best content on youtube for saw heads. video is looking great, sound is better, but for workbench chats a lapel mic or shotgun style mic to pick up the knowledge would be killer. either way, I'll grin and bear it!
Stihl recently said that they will focus on providing a good supply of parts ... for popular models. Let's hope this baby has parts for another ten years or more. Thank you for a great look at the insides.
What the heck have they been focusing on in the past???
Seems like a no brainer to have a good (large) collection of replacement parts available.
Albeit, the covid debacle didn't help in that arena...
I think that there is a law requiring parts availability for 10 or 12 years for a particular model, be readily available, after the company stops production of them.
I'm not positive on the ins & outs however.
At any rate, there is generally a good amount of spare parts in the supply chain for many years after a model goes NLA.
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I'm Impressed by watching your confidence. I would be hard pressed to get that back together.
Thank you for this informative video, still watching but decided comment while viewing. Fantastic channel.
Could you please do a bench talk with the 200T and 201. I am a bench talk nerd :) and have learned a ton from your info. God bless and thanks!!!
Wow. When the handle linkage starting coming apart I was cringing. Good on ya for diving in. I'll keep my 200ts running for as long as possible! Very cool to watch though as I have a 201 as well. Been a good runner so far, but feels different in the hand.
When I changed my handle assembly I had my second 201tc to reference. Crucial when you get to the wire with the screw hidden on the side beneath that sliding panel.
I love the flocked (fuzzy) filters over the HD2s. Only thing that drives me nuts is they are the exact color as wood dust. They should dye them like the black HD2s to give some contrast.
Thankyou for reading the comments- I no I was one of the people who wanted a bench talk about this saw. Fun video
Mr. Jack LOL on the two-pointer! The mosquito swatting! On a serious note, the pull rope over a piston stop on the clutch removal was reassuring as were the "reference pictures", both proven methods. Whether intentional or not, the truth and proven principles both in words and practice are revealed here. Excellent class, excellent content.
Reassembling the linkage rods is fun, I took b4 pix to help.
My 201tc randomly shuts off when hot.. It restarts no problem. Been to the dealer and they can't seem to fix it. Any idea what it could be??
I got one out here in mexico. It does the same to me the saw just does not work properly i have one 193 way better than the 201 tc
The earlier models were problematic. First year or two. Stihl offers an up date kit, new flywheel, coil, carb and linkage. It’s supposed to fix the problem.
I went through the same as you, dealer had my saw and was never able to fix it.
When I got it back, I thought it was fixed, the saw stalled while using it and had a branch fall and crush my thumb, I’m still recovering, but I did buy the kit. Just have to heal up a little more before I install the updates and try it.
Tree guy: I had a small accident and the top handle plastic cracked, would like to replace it.
Stihl service: Ok, we're looking at $300 between parts and labor.
As an electronics guy, I would have fired anyone who delivered electronic interconnects to me like that. Stihl uses a poor grade of wire and poor interconnect practices. But I still love things with Stihl on them.
Watching this because I dropped my 201t from the bucket truck just last week. 🤭
The cylinder aint the top cap for the bearings ?????
Oook..
Although that means absuloutly nothing 😂
Thanks🙂
Bought a brand new one today, came with a 16" bar and chain.
I bought a spare 12" bar for tight pruning with thick branches.
Seems very difficult to change bar and chain unless i remove the sprocket housing. Is this what i need to do?
Shaw hi.
No doubt on the "chain-up" being a pain on Stihl tophandle saws...
Keeping in mind the the engineering department doesn't have to use them day in & day out, lol.
If you are running the mini chain, should be able to slide it in perpendicular to the line of the bar and then rotate the chain while slipping it past the inside of the clutch drum.
It works about the same on .325 and I have even used .375 on them.
Might consider trying a couple of different methods which will yield one that suits you.
Best of success to you.
Thanks for watching.
I'm sure I missed it but did you post a video after you "put the hurt" on that cylinder? I'm curious about if there was anything else you ran into if you went ahead and opened the muffler? I know have at least 4-5 different zip kits or psycho job's (bad ass labeling I might add) that you do on saws for different outcomes. Im wondering how far you took this lil saw?! If you got the time to share your mind. Thanks either way, your videos help out along with educate the fellows like minded that didn't have anyone show them shit (like myself) growing up. Much appreciated
Gosh darn CADs killing it,,, SKAL!!! My apologies..
Any 70 or up will be blessing.I've been threw the ringer with dealers and alk these guys that do modifications.and they're either to buisy or never care...I just want one goid saw?for all around tree work.falling exctra.
Stihl seem to over complicate there assemblies I carnt help notice I can get a husky apart in less time it seems
I love blaming the EPA when customers are asking for it as well as manufacturers trying to do it for efficiency lol
Almost all of the pros I tune saws for are not looking for the smog versions. In fact, they will pay a premium for the older saws. Spend hours searching for them. They will drive great distances to retrieve them. They will pay dearly for shipping if driving is to far. They will pay dearly for rebuilding the old school stuff as well.
Why is that... Glad you asked.
A pro using a 462 (random example in the strato saws currently) in a professional felling application will put enough wear on the topend assembly to net needing a new piston after about 6 months of use. That's max too, by the way. Another 6 months, also max, and it's a new topend assembly if the bottomend isn't also worn.
Now why is that? Well because companies try and dictate that the operator uses their mix oil. Unfortunately, none of the saw manufacturers have a great mix oil blend. Therefore, the end result is that the uneducated users buy a substandard oil that usually ads more in the pollution realm than the top shelf choices. This is due to the low quality base oil stock and various components in the additive package that is consistent with saw manufacturer' mix oil blend.
Why is that noteworthy?
The raw air stratified engines are trying to get the burn components to the "perfect" (14.7 parts atmosphere & 1 part fuel) stociometeric ratio. AKA, the raw air stratified saws run lean.
What does this get you? Glad you asked again. The end result for the serious user is a much higher $ cost per unit cut in the maintenance realm.
Another drawback is that it's getting harder for the average Joe to fix the saw after work. When a pro needs to feed their family by using said saw day in & day out, week after week. Year after year.
In the end.
You can think & believe whatever you choose.
I know from years on the end of pistol grip, using smog & non smog saws, the new stuff is not sturdy when considering the mounting systems. Some burn way more fuel than the predecessor. Most if not all, will need semi expensive "maintenance" routines performed because of the lean aspect.
Here is what you did not consider: More "routine" maintenance will require more parts get shipped & installed. This means that more raw materials will need to be mined, processed, and shipped. More enviromental fallout from the increased new parts manufacturing processes. There will be more waste that has to be shipped & disposed of. There will more hazardous waste in replacement process in the shops performing the increase "routine" fixings.
The moral here? If your going to an environmentalist, don't be like the majority that are narrow minded and only consider their own addenda.
Agreeing to disagree is my bet...
Thanks for watching just the same.
Don't regulate things in to submitting your chainsaw by taking it apart when it's not broken. I don't think you're supposed to be taking new machines apart, buddy. We need to stop doing what you're doing if you're not going to educate. Thank you and You're a loose goose bro