23 year old electrician/construction man for the city I live just died from doing this. It only takes one little mistake, you're not injured, you're dead.
Unfortunately I can’t engrave any deeper. If I could I would burn deeper and fill with epoxy. Or a cnc would work well for this too but I have to make do with what I have. 🤷♂️ but thanks for watching and for the feedback!!
@@bruceburnswoodshop1620 what about making a big so you can do a shallow routing and filling that with epoxy. You have the outline already done. The jig helps keep it to the depth you want and the design you already have.
EDITED: Bruce, I've taken a deeper dive into this. You may be experiencing leakages through earth grind which are affecting the "burn", causing the need for additional soaking ans electrolyte use AND, wasting power that could go to your workpiece, AND creating more pathways for accidents. You are trying to be careful, and respect the power. Please open your enclosure and tell me if you have one of the output leads connected to earth ground. Alternately, you can just use an ohmmeter with the unit unplugged between earth ground on the power plug, and either of your output leads. If this does not show infinite resistamce, stop immediately and we can work through a minor rebuild of your system. Nice work though. That particular maple was a good choice. It shows very well the variations in conductivity through the wood.
I guess I could have tried to make the company name a little bigger. A cnc is really the ideal tool for making logos. I can only make a logo so big and deep with my diode laser. Thanks for watching and for the feedback!!
@@bruceburnswoodshop1620 I don't think bigger is the answer, maybe cutting out the middle of the letters a little bit and using some black paint or epoxy so it shows up would work
I have had similar issues burning bamboo cutting boards I think for several reasons one being that they have been treated or conditioned so they don't soak up the baking soda as well until you sand them down. Have you tried using pearlescent pigment powder to color your epoxy. Also called mica powder I
You definitely have to sand the wood down to bare wood. Also some woods burn better than others, I find black walnut and maple to burn really well consistently. And I’m not sure if the pigment I use is called “mica” powder or not but it’s been getting the job done for me so I’m going to stick with it.
I have been a wood worker for 30+ years........I would like to get into this kind of wood working using power to make designs. Your wording needs to be darker or 3D.........Good job over all
The pattern looks great. The sign designe is spot on except I would make the lined 3 mm wide and 2 -3 mm deep (maybe emphasise it with some black resin to make it stand out more). P.S.: Do keep in mind that I usually shape wood and stone in a different manner, so this is just an aesthetic opinion not a professional one. The result is a great piece to look at and draws attention to itself.
I agree with all the other comments this looks sick as hell but you should have cut out the design of the company name or either colored it in dark black or had it burned in by your laser to be darker or outline thicker
It’s funny looking back on it now I absolutely should have. The laser I have is just a 40 watt diode but I could have just ran it over several passes and burned the engraving deeper and filled it with resin. Not sure why I didn’t at the time. I will say it does look better in person but still thecompany name should be easier to see. Hindsight is 2020 but definitely a good lesson learned! Thanks for watching!
Hi. Could you engrave first - in any font/thickness - then place the screws strategically around the logo/engraving - burn and watch for intrusions into the logo - wanted or unwanted -
The name of this company, "Atlanta Power" should be far more Intence. In addition being Bold "filled in" sign for anyone to read. Even if you needed to use a block letter formation, it would of helped. As for the information that was given to the public, very helpful. Thank you.
Does the baking soda discolor the wood at all? I never tried waiting for it to try before cleaning.Fill me in on your experience working the wood after the burn
That’s a great question, short answer yes, the baking soda does change the woods natural color. I use a product called wood bleach to fix that. This is why I always soak the entire piece I am working on. If you only soak the wood where you want it to burn then that section of the wood will be a different color then the rest of the piece. I usually just sand the wood and get the burns all cleaned up and see how it looks. In this video the wood wasn’t too discolored and I liked the way it looked so I didn’t use wood bleach. But wood bleach is a great option to help bring back the woods natural colors.
When it doesn’t burn it usually means that your solution is too weak. I’d also sand it past 400 and you get much cleaner grooves on the burn with less sanding needed and less loss of those fine burns.
I find the srews don't work as well as using probes. Make your probes with stands so you can stand them up where you want them, and make it super wet. Like a puddle. Use a brush. Awesome piece! 👌
Yes I’ll do that sometimes depending on how the wood is looking. Sometimes I feel like it takes away too much of the natural color of the wood. But I might just be imagining that 🤷♂️
I'm new to this and have watched a lot of videos. I've come to the conclusion that fractal burning is as dangerous or safe as a loaded gun. If you follow the rules there is no problem. I saw one video where the guy said he had just added a power strip with an on/off switch that he can use manually mounted on his work table . Not much use if 10,000 volts sets its fangs into you.
Great job man! Great video! I do it myself but I don’t have all the tools you have dang it lol but I had the same idea and being some pieces like yours! Keep up the great work and these helpful videos
I think I charged $250 plus shipping for this piece. When I first started custom work I would just charge my hourly rate plus materials and plus whatever profit I thought was fair. I always take a deposit, usually around 50%. I pretty much know how long a piece is going to take me so I don’t keep as much notes on time spent building pieces any more. But quoting larger pieces is more difficult and I will take notes on those. I
@@bruceburnswoodshop1620 appreciate the answer. I’ll be keeping up with your upcoming projects. Gave me some motivation to get out there today and burn.
@@bruceburnswoodshop1620 if you really want control of where you burns go and haven't tried burning in MDF, you're missing out. YES, it doesn't have the same look as real wood but you have a lot more control to make the burns go where you want them without the habit of the burn path wanting to either follow or cross the grain. Otherwise, I agree that maple or other light colored wood and plywood both work well.
Not overly impressed with the laser work. If i was the paying customer, i think i would be very disappointed in how poorly it shows up. Otherwise, the burning was cool, but possibly too much and detracted from the laser?
I love it. I myself make fractal Wood burned ....ART!!! Because once the piece is finished, it IS A WORK OF ART!! LOL I will definitely be trying out some of your techniques. Great job, congrats! It is beautiful!!! 😁😃❤️🔥🎉🎊🎇🎇🎇🎇🎇
Kinda like the wood burning effect and your workmanship is top notch. However I’m just not sold on how much time and effort that’s required to produce this fractal wood burning. You could make products with a much nicer effect and finish with much less effort, in half the time and it would be so much safer. Good work though buddy.
Thank you! And your totally right. This takes a ton of time and it’s very dangerous. But in my opinion it’s about having something that’s totally unique. It’s kinda like buying hardwood floors instead of laminate, the hardwood is going to be more expensive hard to install might warp on you and scratch easier but they are unique and higher quality. Idk I guess that analogy was a bit of a stretch but you get the point 😂
This is awesome, but the name of the company is WAY too faint. It should be colored in a lighter color to distinguish it from the dark burns. I would probably use a semi-transparent warmish white and leaving the black outline separate and distinct.
This is dangerous, but so is using a table saw, band saw, lathe or any other electric tool that moves very fast. Just be safe, do your research. I use a Neon sign power supply for my burner.
Your set up is dangerous, the leads don't look like high voltage leads, also put a light on your transformer to indicate it has power, there is also NOTHING stopping you from setting up your foot "Deadman switch" close to the work to stop you from a moment of forgetfulness and moving the low voltage jumper leads. Your set should need at a minimum both hands to trigger it, that way you can not touch the leads. Again this is not a good set up, glad it works for you, me I wouldn't touch this thing if you paid me. I would strongly recommend throwing this out and start again. Yes I am an electrician of 36 years, yes I made my own burner, yes it scares me and I treat it with the upmost respect.
I understand that you need to warn people of the danger so they don’t kill themselves and their family try to sue you. But that’s like the one chip challenge company telling parents not to let their kids eat them, telling the kids not to. Worked well for Tide Pods. And after all, aren’t you doing it at home? It looks like you know what you’re doing, but I doubt you were born an expert at it. More than likely you studied up on it before just going for it. I agree that this can make your day go real bad, real quick, but how about telling us that this isn’t a play toy and be very careful and learn everything you can about it before plugging it in. Having said all that, I just ran across your channel the other day and haven’t seen all your videos. So if you’ve said that sort of thing in some of them, then, opps, my bad.
23 year old electrician/construction man for the city I live just died from doing this. It only takes one little mistake, you're not injured, you're dead.
Company name is lost in the piece. Needs something to make it stand out. Love these fractal pieces.
Unfortunately I can’t engrave any deeper. If I could I would burn deeper and fill with epoxy. Or a cnc would work well for this too but I have to make do with what I have. 🤷♂️ but thanks for watching and for the feedback!!
@@bruceburnswoodshop1620 what about making a big so you can do a shallow routing and filling that with epoxy. You have the outline already done. The jig helps keep it to the depth you want and the design you already have.
@@bruceburnswoodshop1620ou could always use stain inside the letters to make the name stand out more.
I would have done the name differently, barely can see it..look good tho.. love that you added a deadman switch/foot peddle
Love the piece. Personally, I think that Atlanta Power should be filled in. Unless the customer didn't want it that way. Awesome work.
Thank you!!
I agree. @@bruceburnswoodshop1620
I agree. It looks like the Atlanta Power was already on the wood and you just re-used a scrap piece...
EDITED: Bruce, I've taken a deeper dive into this. You may be experiencing leakages through earth grind which are affecting the "burn", causing the need for additional soaking ans electrolyte use AND, wasting power that could go to your workpiece, AND creating more pathways for accidents.
You are trying to be careful, and respect the power. Please open your enclosure and tell me if you have one of the output leads connected to earth ground. Alternately, you can just use an ohmmeter with the unit unplugged between earth ground on the power plug, and either of your output leads. If this does not show infinite resistamce, stop immediately and we can work through a minor rebuild of your system.
Nice work though. That particular maple was a good choice. It shows very well the variations in conductivity through the wood.
The fractal burn is pretty but you can't see the name of the business
I guess I could have tried to make the company name a little bigger. A cnc is really the ideal tool for making logos. I can only make a logo so big and deep with my diode laser. Thanks for watching and for the feedback!!
@@bruceburnswoodshop1620 I don't think bigger is the answer, maybe cutting out the middle of the letters a little bit and using some black paint or epoxy so it shows up would work
Burning looks excellent, Logo needs more contrast. Maybe 3 or 4 times the Logo's line thickness, or inlaid in that gold epoxy. Loved the Video!!!
Ya definitely I should have just went over it more times with the laser engraver. Thanks for watching and for the feedback!
I have had similar issues burning bamboo cutting boards I think for several reasons one being that they have been treated or conditioned so they don't soak up the baking soda as well until you sand them down.
Have you tried using pearlescent pigment powder to color your epoxy. Also called mica powder
I
You definitely have to sand the wood down to bare wood. Also some woods burn better than others, I find black walnut and maple to burn really well consistently.
And I’m not sure if the pigment I use is called “mica” powder or not but it’s been getting the job done for me so I’m going to stick with it.
I have been a wood worker for 30+ years........I would like to get into this kind of wood working using power to make designs. Your wording needs to be darker or 3D.........Good job over all
Thank you for the feedback! It’s about as much fun and it is dangerous.
The pattern looks great. The sign designe is spot on except I would make the lined 3 mm wide and 2 -3 mm deep (maybe emphasise it with some black resin to make it stand out more).
P.S.: Do keep in mind that I usually shape wood and stone in a different manner, so this is just an aesthetic opinion not a professional one. The result is a great piece to look at and draws attention to itself.
I agree with all the other comments this looks sick as hell but you should have cut out the design of the company name or either colored it in dark black or had it burned in by your laser to be darker or outline thicker
It’s funny looking back on it now I absolutely should have. The laser I have is just a 40 watt diode but I could have just ran it over several passes and burned the engraving deeper and filled it with resin. Not sure why I didn’t at the time. I will say it does look better in person but still thecompany name should be easier to see.
Hindsight is 2020 but definitely a good lesson learned! Thanks for watching!
Hi. Could you engrave first - in any font/thickness - then place the screws strategically around the logo/engraving - burn and watch for intrusions into the logo - wanted or unwanted -
The words don’t jump out at you. I would have made the lettering deeper and broader and out in red epoxy, just a thought?
Ya I agree that’s definitely something I could have tried to get to pop more. Next time I’ll keep that in mind
I think if I would have engraved it deeper I could have added epoxy in the engraving
The name of this company, "Atlanta Power" should be far more Intence. In addition being Bold "filled in" sign for anyone to read. Even if you needed to use a block letter formation, it would of helped. As for the information that was given to the public, very helpful. Thank you.
Does the baking soda discolor the wood at all? I never tried waiting for it to try before cleaning.Fill me in on your experience working the wood after the burn
That’s a great question, short answer yes, the baking soda does change the woods natural color. I use a product called wood bleach to fix that.
This is why I always soak the entire piece I am working on. If you only soak the wood where you want it to burn then that section of the wood will be a different color then the rest of the piece.
I usually just sand the wood and get the burns all cleaned up and see how it looks. In this video the wood wasn’t too discolored and I liked the way it looked so I didn’t use wood bleach. But wood bleach is a great option to help bring back the woods natural colors.
I have also learned that if the solution is warm the results will be better. The solution needs to soak into the wood for a little bit.
I’ve never heard of that I’ll have to give it a try. I have noticed the wood often burns better on a hot day.
When it doesn’t burn it usually means that your solution is too weak. I’d also sand it past 400 and you get much cleaner grooves on the burn with less sanding needed and less loss of those fine burns.
Hello- great work!!! What is the resin name? And do you use any that are food grade?
Love your channel! Keep the videos coming!
Thank you bro! 🙏
I find the srews don't work as well as using probes. Make your probes with stands so you can stand them up where you want them, and make it super wet. Like a puddle. Use a brush. Awesome piece! 👌
The lines for the letters should be a little bit thicker but it looks beautiful.
I agree thank you!!
Have you tried a Oxcalic acid solution after burning. It bleaches the wood and removes a lot of the carbon
Yes I’ll do that sometimes depending on how the wood is looking. Sometimes I feel like it takes away too much of the natural color of the wood. But I might just be imagining that 🤷♂️
That’s very cool, nice set up in your shop as well
Personally know someone who has died doing this. Was not a scene a wife should find.
I'm new to this and have watched a lot of videos. I've come to the conclusion that fractal burning is as dangerous or safe as a loaded gun. If you follow the rules there is no problem. I saw one video where the guy said he had just added a power strip with an on/off switch that he can use manually mounted on his work table
. Not much use if 10,000 volts sets its fangs into you.
If you know what your doing and take all the precautions it's not that dangerous
Nice work sir!!
Thank you!!
What laser cutter did you use
Great job man! Great video! I do it myself but I don’t have all the tools you have dang it lol but I had the same idea and being some pieces like yours! Keep up the great work and these helpful videos
How much did you charge your client? I have been burning for a few years and always have a hard time pricing my pieces.
I think I charged $250 plus shipping for this piece. When I first started custom work I would just charge my hourly rate plus materials and plus whatever profit I thought was fair. I always take a deposit, usually around 50%. I pretty much know how long a piece is going to take me so I don’t keep as much notes on time spent building pieces any more. But quoting larger pieces is more difficult and I will take notes on those. I
@@bruceburnswoodshop1620 appreciate the answer. I’ll be keeping up with your upcoming projects. Gave me some motivation to get out there today and burn.
No need to use screws, imo. A brass rod works just fine. Very nice piece regardless of technique.
Thank you!
Looks amazing
Thank you!!
It's no more dangerous than doing anything else that you're not paying attention to.
What have you found to be the best type of wood to fractal burn?
Walnut and maple forsure. Plywood burns better than anything though.
@@bruceburnswoodshop1620 if you really want control of where you burns go and haven't tried burning in MDF, you're missing out. YES, it doesn't have the same look as real wood but you have a lot more control to make the burns go where you want them without the habit of the burn path wanting to either follow or cross the grain. Otherwise, I agree that maple or other light colored wood and plywood both work well.
How much did you charge for that sign Good job .
Looks amazing 👍😱 amazing work!
Very beautiful man
Thank you!!
Love your work
If and when you get a chance, could you please make a video of how you made your router sled
Ya I can do that! Thanks for watching!!
Amazing work! new sub
Thank you!! 😁
So beautiful bro.
Thank you!! 😁
Not overly impressed with the laser work.
If i was the paying customer, i think i would be very disappointed in how poorly it shows up. Otherwise, the burning was cool, but possibly too much and detracted from the laser?
Definitely need more contrast between the letters and the background.
I agree! Thanks for watching! Good lesson learned on this one.
is that with 110v or 240v ?
110 coming in, it steps up the voltage to 2,000 to do the burn.
you’re really good
Your better ;)
I love it. I myself make fractal Wood burned ....ART!!! Because once the piece is finished, it IS A WORK OF ART!! LOL
I will definitely be trying out some of your techniques. Great job, congrats! It is beautiful!!! 😁😃❤️🔥🎉🎊🎇🎇🎇🎇🎇
Thank you very much!!😁
Can I buy some custom pieces for my 300 gallon plywood aquarium
Kinda like the wood burning effect and your workmanship is top notch. However I’m just not sold on how much time and effort that’s required to produce this fractal wood burning. You could make products with a much nicer effect and finish with much less effort, in half the time and it would be so much safer. Good work though buddy.
Thank you! And your totally right. This takes a ton of time and it’s very dangerous.
But in my opinion it’s about having something that’s totally unique. It’s kinda like buying hardwood floors instead of laminate, the hardwood is going to be more expensive hard to install might warp on you and scratch easier but they are unique and higher quality.
Idk I guess that analogy was a bit of a stretch but you get the point 😂
so where do we try this? apparently not a home, so a business or just leave it outside and hope lightning strikes??
This is awesome, but the name of the company is WAY too faint. It should be colored in a lighter color to distinguish it from the dark burns. I would probably use a semi-transparent warmish white and leaving the black outline separate and distinct.
This is dangerous, but so is using a table saw, band saw, lathe or any other electric tool that moves very fast. Just be safe, do your research. I use a Neon sign power supply for my burner.
Absolutely. The only big difference is, if done unsafe you loose a life instead of a finger.
The neon sign is safer I’ve heard.
Copper nails or better conductor points
Can you just use sand paper???
My wife's work wife's husband died Friday doing this wood art for her birthday. Not worth it. One mistake, wife and two kids left without a dad.😢
Pickling salt watch it burn
How do you die from this
Beautiful until the text was added.
Your set up is dangerous, the leads don't look like high voltage leads, also put a light on your transformer to indicate it has power, there is also NOTHING stopping you from setting up your foot "Deadman switch" close to the work to stop you from a moment of forgetfulness and moving the low voltage jumper leads. Your set should need at a minimum both hands to trigger it, that way you can not touch the leads.
Again this is not a good set up, glad it works for you, me I wouldn't touch this thing if you paid me. I would strongly recommend throwing this out and start again. Yes I am an electrician of 36 years, yes I made my own burner, yes it scares me and I treat it with the upmost respect.
Nice, but the text completely ruined it, in my opinion. :)
Well it was a custom order 😂
I understand that you need to warn people of the danger so they don’t kill themselves and their family try to sue you. But that’s like the one chip challenge company telling parents not to let their kids eat them, telling the kids not to. Worked well for Tide Pods. And after all, aren’t you doing it at home? It looks like you know what you’re doing, but I doubt you were born an expert at it. More than likely you studied up on it before just going for it. I agree that this can make your day go real bad, real quick, but how about telling us that this isn’t a play toy and be very careful and learn everything you can about it before plugging it in. Having said all that, I just ran across your channel the other day and haven’t seen all your videos. So if you’ve said that sort of thing in some of them, then, opps, my bad.
Awesome stuff.
Thank you!!
Cool 😮😮😮
Thank you!!