Iris Murdoch: Plato's Cave
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 พ.ค. 2024
- Murdoch can be introduced in the context of teaching Plato. Her theory of unselfing speaks to the contemporary relevance of the metaphors Plato uses in his myth of the Cave.
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It can also mean that we go back to our old ways of thinking, it's natural, after first getting outside.
Very good video. Thank you. And I like the questions most of all
Beauty is truth, truth of beauty. Keats, ode to a Grecian Urn.
Makes me think of that line in the poem
Owen Barfield had similar experience as Murdoch had when look at beauty. He was very troubled after being in WW1 and he said it was through poetry and the effect it had on him that got him through his depression. If you like Iris Murdoch you should definitely check out Owen Barfield.
thank you
Where can I find murdochs writing on the cave?
The narrator is really nice. Whats her name, so that i can follow more content from.her
The ego doesn't mean "I" in Greek by coincidence. The very nature of ego is selfish. It is the self. Or the illusion of the self like the shadows. Murdock had two basic premises along with her argument board discussion of the cave. One of them has been we are naturally selfish.
The Cave represents the material world which we take in through our five senses. When the prisoner escapes his chains and see first the light from the fire, which hurts his eyes, and the the sun light - he is experiencing the real world that world for human beings is our human consciousness. The fire is our consciousness waking up to the truth and the Sun is heaven - when we die we see the real world.
This also makes me think of the Bible. Jesus says "the eye is the lamp of the body." Perspective and how we view things is the fire in the cave
(My Ode to Plato)
What's more real?
The form of the cup or the cup?
I can clasp my hands & form the cup without the cup & make millions of cups from the form of the cup. The cup is just a cup..
So what's more real for real? The form of the cup or the cup?
The reality of reality has no formality.
The figures in the cave, are the pictures people paint of their intentions, later reveled by their actions.
But nature is not just beauty?