Former Apple employee here, I can say with confidence that 80% of refurbed iPhones are essentially brand new phones that were returned. Apple still replaces the outer shell and battery regardless.
@@arikowidtrash7074everyone has their own reasons maybe they didn’t like it or they wanted to upgrade. It’s funny a lot of people still don’t know that you can get all your problems fixed at a phone repair store instead of buying a new phone or upgrading lol
When the new MBP was released I was told by the Apple employee to order a refurbished. Any recalled issues would have already been handled and for less of a price.
Plus these devices have had a human eye and hand touch to repair them, then tested to the same standards as new devices. I always go for the refurbished, as it also keeps some e-waste out of the landfills (I don't want all those battery heavy metals leeching into the groundwater).
It’s funny, when I got my 14 pro max, I traded in a gold iPhone 12 Pro 512gb. The odds are astronomical, but still, it’s humorous to imagine that used to be my old phone
This is a *very* important consideration, and it's good that Apple assign a new IMEI. 👍 As mentioned in my own comment I used to own an iPhone XR - Bought secondhand from a local pawnbrokers. Worked perfectly fine with my SIM when I put it in, but as I only ever used it on wifi it lived on airplane mode and never touched the cellular network. 📶 Two years later, and I sell it on eBay. The buyer found that it would not activate cellular, and was getting messages to the effect of „SIM not allowed“ and „Barred device“. I accepted their return and took it back to the pawnbroker to investigate - It turned out the previous owner had knowingly defaulted on their cellular carrier account, and the carrier had blocked the phone for non-payment. Because I never used it on cellular, it took 18 months for this to come to light. 😲 On the bright side; The pawnbroker - In line with the traditions of their business - Accepted return of the device for the original purchase price and presumably took the previous owner to the cleaners over it...But that certainly got me off the idea of ever paying top dollar for secondhand phones! 😨
@@siroglethorpe311since its still a lot cheaper in the long run unfortunately. Genuine apple parts are stupidly expensive and still require their sterilization
I used to work for a Foxconn affiliate and they basically used all new parts for everything, but the motherboard. There are a few different device assembly and disassembly lines that take the phone all the way apart, do extensive testing of the motherboards by plugging them into devices that check that everything is still working, the motherboard gets flashed with new information, like the IMEI and all of the parts are serialized to the device and assembled. They use all of the same equipment that the normal assembly uses. They may refurbish some of the other parts, but at the end of the day, these are basically new phones.
There shouldn't be any fingerprints, so whoever was working on that part, wasn't wearing their finger cots. The screws aren't tightened by hand, but with an electric torque screwdriver that is calibrated to not over tighten. They can still go in sideways, but it shouldn't be overtightened unless the calibration went off. I'm surprised you didn't have a device with a torn graphite layer anywhere. It was so common to see the screen with the torn graphite layer that it wasn't even considered an issue. (maybe that changed at some point)
My only problem with Apple refurb is it’s always priced so close to new to make people think “f*ck it might as well buy new for a couple bucks more”. Also they never EVER refurb current or even last gen iPhones.
@@ClavinZKL I mean they don’t ever sell the current gen or last gen in their refurb store. If you look now, you will only see iPhone 12s being sold refurbished. That’s because they know if they sold anything too recent, that would potentially harm their new iPhone sales.
I got an M1 iPad Pro from apple refurbished. Saved about $200 compared to new and the unit was absolutely spotless. As far as deals go, sometimes amazon or best buy are better, but as far as quality goes, I can wholeheartedly recommend apple refurbished.
i also ordered an M1 iPad Pro 11'' in it's cheapest configuration for 749€ and i'm super happy with it. It's basically brand new and I paid less money then I would pay for a new iPad Air
@@insanestudios8018 no they came out in 2021. Mine did ship with 15.6 unfortunately so just going to it's delay to 16.5 and hope for the best on an iOS 16 jailbreak
@@HanchakovskyThis one was expensive because of the storage. And Phone Repair Guru uses Canadian dollars, iPhones are sold at higher prices in CAD. I’m assuming you’re from the US btw
When I decided to buy an iPhone 13 Mini, I first did it through the Apple refurb page. At first the only odd thing I noticed was that the gap between the screen and the top bezel was a little wider than usual, allowing dust to enter, but nothing I couldn't remove manually with the help of something thin. The real problem came about a week later, when all mobile data functionality stopped working regardless of which SIM I was using. I took it to an Apple Store and they confirmed that the antenna was malfunctioning. The funny thing is that they couldn't exchange it for me there, because refurbs are web-only and therefore returns can only be made from there. Anyway, I returned it without any problems and simply bought a new one on Amazon. The new one has a perfectly sealed screen, so yes, that wasn't normal either. I suspect the antenna was the component that was originally malfunctioning on the original refurbished phone, and the technician just failed to repair it properly. I know my case could just be bad luck, but I just wanted to put my two cents in here for everyone. On another note, the 13 Mini is my favourite phone and I couldn't be happier with its form factor!
I bought all of my Apple devices on their refurbished store, that's an iPhone, iPad and MacBook Pro. They are typically about 15% off but here in the UK Apple just cleared out a load of old iPhone 11s for £379 which is nearly half the original list price so if you don't mind buying something that is just a couple of generations old you can get some great deals.
Probably ex-demo or unsold/forgotten UK-held stock, I'd imagine. If you happened to buy one, does it have a UKCA mark on the box? 🙂 Actually, I might head to the Apple refurb site later. I know they're close to obsolescence (If not past it) but I miss my Xr, and I'm not buying another one through a reseller after the experience I had with that one! (Previous owner defaulted on their account after I'd bought it, and the network provider blocked the phone without my awareness.)
I think that Apple Refurbished is good, but still, they should try with some older phones. The 12 will stop being sold refurbished after the 15 is out. If I could have bought a refurbished iPhone 5 I really would have.
I'm surprised it didn't come out the box charged at around 50% God knows how long this phone was sitting dead at 0%, not good for batteries in the long-term.
My dad got an Apple Refurbished M1 MBP 2 years ago for almost 250 dollars cheaper than the actual price. It seems like a much better deal than brand new especially since it looks, feels and functions practically like a brand new laptop. I would never have thought to even go for refurbished from any other company, but since apple is so extensive in its testing, it doesn't feel any less than buying a new one.
I recently got my wife a refurb M1 iPad Pro. In 2022 I got a refurb M1 MacBook Air. Both were like new. Batteries new in both. You can certainly save money buying from other companies but I got decent discounts on essentially new devices with full warranties.
For ones who are still in school/college, this is a bit of a tough sell for anything other than iPhones, because you can get student discounts on brand new devices. I got a $200 discount on my 16" M1 Pro two years ago when I got it new.
Nice vid. I expected that there would be errors in Apple's renewed iPhone program. But hey, it's as you say, it's Apple, you have to trust and refurbished cell phones can obviously have minimal errors. Saludos desde Argentina! 🇦🇷🙂
I bought an iPhone 11 Pro Max 512 GB Midnight Green last year and it’s been great, but in January, it kept having unexpected shutdowns so they had to exchange it for another one
Apple refurbished devices are extensively tested and satisfy customers 00:04 ✦ Apple refurbished iPhone 12 Pro is pricey but comes with a strong guarantee 01:15 ✦ Apple refurbished devices are meticulously detailed and often have new parts. 02:22 ✦ Apple refurbished products undergo thorough testing. 03:17 ✦ Testing and confirming the functionality of refurbished Apple phones. 04:12 ✦ Refurbished iPhone 12 Pro looks good 05:11 ✦ Apple refurbishment quality and attention to detail 06:03 ✦ Apple refurbished phones are like brand new 07:07
Bought my 13 Pro Max as a refurb from apple site. It’s essentially a brand new phone. Would 100% go refurb again in a few years when the 16 pro maxes are being refurbished
Watching this on my refurbished 12 mini from apple, love it. Spent over 700 with apple care, tho I do have a spec inside the camera, it’s on the rim so it doesn’t show on photos. Would recommend lol
Thanks! Just returned an amazon "premier renewed" iPhone 13 Pro that was scratched up, dirty from its previous case and had battery health of 90%... with amazon I've heard it's hit or miss. Obviously I got a POS lol. I just ordered an Apple refurb iPhone 13 Pro... I hope it's my old one that I traded in for a 15 Pro Max lol. Thanks to this video and a few Apple employee comments I'm super stoked. Oh and I sold my iPhone 15 Pro Max because it was buggy af and would ring whenever it felt like it... I've heard there are some issues with this device, but I need my phone to ring, not get a voicemail notification after complete silence. And no my settings are all set lol. Thanks again for a great video =]
Well, I never fell in love with Apple's devices, due to the locked down nature of their products. But I study mobile technology, which frankly includes mobile apps as well, and I am a developer/programmer (not my employment, just a hobby I do), and making mobile apps is actually something I'm also interested in. Guess I'll have to get myself at least some refurbished iPhone to get into multiplatform development more, keeping it for development and testing purposes. Android will however still be my primary mobile device OS.
I really wish I new this a couple of weeks before as my wife has just bought a brand new iPhone 14 Pro, I mean she loves it but when I saw you dissecting the iPhone 12, I thought it looked the biz 🤩 Thank mate. 😊😊😊
What do u do with the phones after you use them for a video. Do u keep them or do u give them away to ur subscribers. Idk if u have answered my question since I'm asking this at 7:04.
I have an M1 Mac Mini I purchased from Apple refurbished. It replaced my late 2015 iMac, also from Apple Refurb. I gave that to my cousin and it's still chugging along. I also bought a 13 Mini from eBay refurbished for a 2nd phone for family calls only that came with 100% battery health and no scratches or other issues. That was cheaper than Apple's. Still, Apple refurbished has a decent record.
I know this is most definitely just bad luck, but I ordered a refurbished iPhone 12 Pro from Apple at the beginning of the year and had to return it just a few days after because it started bootlooping all of the sudden. I contacted Apple support and they sent me a replacement phone, but that one didn’t seem to be refurbished as the battery was at 93% (dropped to 89% just a few days later💀) and the frame had scratches around the lightning port. I returned this phone as well and thankfully got my money back. I’ve just been very unlucky but I won’t buy refurbished again. I safed all of my money to buy a brand new iPhone 13 Mini a couple of months later and this one is working flawlessly. I simply cannot trust refurbished phones anymore. I’ve had too many bad experiences with them. The issues with the 12 Pro I ordered were the icing on the cake…
@@DeerJerky it really was :( But I’m actually kinda happy it turned out this way because otherwise I wouldn’t have my 13 Mini now so it’s all good in the end haha
Louis Rossman has documented cases about refurb MacBooks having water damaged boards, etc. I think there's still some room for error, but I also think that refurb can be a good deal and better than some random eBay sellers. May want to pop the cover and inspect your boards if ordering refurb MacBooks though. There's also some accusations about Apple maintaining sweatshop like conditions for the companies they subcontract to for repair and refurb.
Correct me if i'm wrong, but I don't think that Apple does component level repair. I'm sure they have a proper tester, and they replace faulty module(s) based on the testresults.
I’m a huge fan of your videos but what the heck was that! 8 minutes just to find nothing wrong! It’s like if you had an unboxing video for an empty box! Anyway keep up the good work and thanks for reading my rant.
Many, many years ago I had a faulty iPhone 4 (sticky home button) which I took back to Apple on like the 350th day of the 365 day warranty and they said (at that time anyway) that whenever you get a replacement phone through the warranty that late in the cycle it would a "certified refurbished" similar to what they sell nowadays, the guy said that everything is a new part except the motherboard. I think things like fingerprints on the internals and overtightened screws happen on new phones too, Friday afternoon jobs are the worst 😂
You should inspect the board as well. Jesa Jones from iPad rehab gets lots of apple refurbished devices that have really bad liquid damage. They’re often “fixed” really poorly and will eventually fail. This is because the refurbishment process is outsourced to the lowest bidder in China. Apple does visually inspect these devices really carefully, but only the outside. All the terrible board repairs aren’t visible.
Buying a new iPhone gets you a 2 year warranty in my country whereas buying a used/refurbished one only gets you 1 year. Only that tends me to buy a new one. Besides, only the case and the battery itself are getting replaced so the speakers or the microphone *could* be worse. So the additional 200€ for a new one seems fair to me.
This was an excellent video with good information. Apple is one of three manufacturers that I would buy a refurbished product from. The other two are Bose and Sonos. The three companies are the only ones that I am aware of that provide the same warranty as if it were new (one full year parts and labor, or even replace). If you buy a refurbished device from one of the big box stores or any retailer, you will most likely get a warranty that's from 30 to 90 days, and there is no guaranty that any replacement parts or components are OEM certified. Also, these retailers often use third party marketers, that most people never heard of. The parts may be generic.There may be other manufacturers that I'm not aware of that would offer one year warranty. Always do your due diligence before making your purchase. Having been in Consumer Electronics since 1980, I know what I am talking about. A couple of tips:If your Apple device needs service (new battery, screen, etc.), only take it to an Apple store or Apple authorized service center. They are the only ones that use certified Apple parts and components. If you do use an authorized service center, never leave your device over night. If they insist that you have to, then leave and take it to an Apple store and have them service it. (Apple is less likely to go out of business).
Nice video… need some recommendations where do recommend to buy an olde replacement screen for an iPhone 12… I’ve had bad luck with 2 colors are way off
My refurbished iPhone bricked itself ~10 minutes after leaving the store. Went back and got it replaced for free with a brand new one That incident did make me question the quality
Which only proves Apple refurbs are brand new phones. If it was truly refurbished phone a technician or technicians would play with it a bit. Quality control on Chinese production line is non existing so your phone was brand new but defective.
I looked at getting one prior to buying my 15PM, and I am also in Canada. They only had 13PM with either the 512 or 1tb. For the cost, it was the exact same as buying a 15PM brand new, mind you my 15PM is 256. From my POV, unless you really want more storage but you are fixed to a specific budget, you are better off buying new than apple refurb. It's just hard to stomach paying 1900 when that's how much a brand new 15PM base model is.
It is common to have rework stations on PCB manufacturing lines where assemblers modify boards that have issues. So they likely also do the same wherever they refurbish products.
Is it also waterproof? As far as in know most refurbished phones still getting water into the device I wonder if apple refurbished phones are also not waterproof
I bought my 12 pro refurbished through eBay. First one I got had the “display message” for a screen replacement. Bluetooth didn’t work but I sent it back and the new one I got works fine. Paid $500 for a 12 Pro 256gb. The new one doesn’t have a display message so I’m pretty happy.
they actually dont replace the shells least for macbooks i believe mine came with some scuff marks but u only notice em in the right light like 1 prcent of the time so very rare and u notice it only if u look for it. i was expecting this though and it was a steal for a macbook air with 16gb ram and 1tb storage that pretty much was new minus minor cosmetic stuff
Fun fact, did you know you don’t have to open your Sim card tray to find your device model just go into settings general about then find the serial number paste it into google and then you go. Do you have your phone or iPad model?
Hey, got a question here I’ve got two older iPhones (7+ and 11 Pro Max) as backup and got me thinking if these can be upgraded in any way. I know battery upgrades and water seal can happen but I mean like aftermarket screen upgrades, 3d touch etc. Thanks!
Any idea where u can see the imei on a iPhone 15 in general, i have seen a few come through my hands on my work, and none of them have the imei on the simtray anymore? Especially if the device does not turn on. Cuz i wanna check if its the same imei like on the box
I am considering to get a Apple device next year, maybe an iPhone 13 or 13 Mini, and I am planning to buy it on Amazon Renewed. Tell me if it's gonna be worth it please!
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Can you still get AppleCare with a refurbished phone?
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@@CaydenThyGamer yes
Former Apple employee here, I can say with confidence that 80% of refurbed iPhones are essentially brand new phones that were returned. Apple still replaces the outer shell and battery regardless.
why they returned the new phone?
What are the 20%?
get a newer model maybe@@arikowidtrash7074
@@arikowidtrash7074everyone has their own reasons maybe they didn’t like it or they wanted to upgrade. It’s funny a lot of people still don’t know that you can get all your problems fixed at a phone repair store instead of buying a new phone or upgrading lol
@@stephanes.presumably actually broken iphones
Fun fact I’ve worked at Apple and those phones are the ones that we replace when you ask for a warranty. They are brand new, buy refurbished
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What about accessoires? Like the 3rd gen AirPods?
@@ryanb5308 same thing
if they r brand new, then why r they selling it at a discounted price?
@@18PregnantAndProud because they are technically not brand new, so they simply can't sell them as brand new
When the new MBP was released I was told by the Apple employee to order a refurbished. Any recalled issues would have already been handled and for less of a price.
Yup
Plus these devices have had a human eye and hand touch to repair them, then tested to the same standards as new devices. I always go for the refurbished, as it also keeps some e-waste out of the landfills (I don't want all those battery heavy metals leeching into the groundwater).
Everyone who buys a brand new device is basically a guinea pig for te company (any company).
It’s funny, when I got my 14 pro max, I traded in a gold iPhone 12 Pro 512gb. The odds are astronomical, but still, it’s humorous to imagine that used to be my old phone
Do you know the serial number if so ask prg for the serial number
@@VeronikaIronic oh I traded it in a year ago. I have no earthly idea haha. It is EXTREMELY infinitesimally unlikely that it is mine
@@VeronikaIronicthey changed the serial number after it’s done it’s like a new phone
@@VeronikaIronicit's in the video
@@VeronikaIronicyou might get it back for a cool price maybe who knows🤨 he’s a great guy prg
About the IMEI, apple actually completely rewrites it. The boards get a new IMEI, as the previous one could be tied to a carrier/someone's account
This is a *very* important consideration, and it's good that Apple assign a new IMEI. 👍
As mentioned in my own comment I used to own an iPhone XR - Bought secondhand from a local pawnbrokers. Worked perfectly fine with my SIM when I put it in, but as I only ever used it on wifi it lived on airplane mode and never touched the cellular network. 📶
Two years later, and I sell it on eBay. The buyer found that it would not activate cellular, and was getting messages to the effect of „SIM not allowed“ and „Barred device“. I accepted their return and took it back to the pawnbroker to investigate - It turned out the previous owner had knowingly defaulted on their cellular carrier account, and the carrier had blocked the phone for non-payment. Because I never used it on cellular, it took 18 months for this to come to light. 😲
On the bright side; The pawnbroker - In line with the traditions of their business - Accepted return of the device for the original purchase price and presumably took the previous owner to the cleaners over it...But that certainly got me off the idea of ever paying top dollar for secondhand phones! 😨
@ilyasg2108 - Thanks.
Nothing new bruh 😂
you can rewrite yourself, atleast in Android , I have done that before
@@xninja2369you cannot write an imei to an iphone, only way is to swap nand (unless you are apple themselves it seems)
wow so if it was blacklisted before the refurb, the new owner doesn't get hit by it. Nice
One big thing he didn’t mention is refurbished devices typically have limited warranty which means you can add apple care
Exactly what I was looking for. That’s one reason Apple Refurbished have an edge over others
Why have apple care when u have this guy lol
@@siroglethorpe311since its still a lot cheaper in the long run unfortunately.
Genuine apple parts are stupidly expensive and still require their sterilization
@@siroglethorpe311 astronomically cheaper. what?
@@bad26498 rlly? Apple care is a subscription so I think u end up paying more
I used to work for a Foxconn affiliate and they basically used all new parts for everything, but the motherboard. There are a few different device assembly and disassembly lines that take the phone all the way apart, do extensive testing of the motherboards by plugging them into devices that check that everything is still working, the motherboard gets flashed with new information, like the IMEI and all of the parts are serialized to the device and assembled. They use all of the same equipment that the normal assembly uses.
They may refurbish some of the other parts, but at the end of the day, these are basically new phones.
There shouldn't be any fingerprints, so whoever was working on that part, wasn't wearing their finger cots.
The screws aren't tightened by hand, but with an electric torque screwdriver that is calibrated to not over tighten. They can still go in sideways, but it shouldn't be overtightened unless the calibration went off. I'm surprised you didn't have a device with a torn graphite layer anywhere. It was so common to see the screen with the torn graphite layer that it wasn't even considered an issue. (maybe that changed at some point)
My only problem with Apple refurb is it’s always priced so close to new to make people think “f*ck it might as well buy new for a couple bucks more”. Also they never EVER refurb current or even last gen iPhones.
Probably the point for why Apple does what they do.
They don't rufubissh last gen or current? So u mean they don't refurbish anything lol for example 15 came out so u mean they only refurbish the 14?
@@ClavinZKL I mean they don’t ever sell the current gen or last gen in their refurb store. If you look now, you will only see iPhone 12s being sold refurbished. That’s because they know if they sold anything too recent, that would potentially harm their new iPhone sales.
@Ucfahmad oh, I'm not familiar with apple so I thought by last gen u meant every phone before the 15 🤣
@@Ucfahmadi saw an 14plus on refurbished today although its still being sold currently. So im assuming its just based on what’s available
I got an M1 iPad Pro from apple refurbished. Saved about $200 compared to new and the unit was absolutely spotless. As far as deals go, sometimes amazon or best buy are better, but as far as quality goes, I can wholeheartedly recommend apple refurbished.
I just ordered a brand new 2tb m1 iPad pro 12.9 for $1000 on woot. Hoping it comes with iOS 15.4.1 or older for jailbreak. Killer deal if you ask me
@@GU_WOP_O that's a crazy good deal
i also ordered an M1 iPad Pro 11'' in it's cheapest configuration for 749€ and i'm super happy with it. It's basically brand new and I paid less money then I would pay for a new iPad Air
@@GU_WOP_O didnt those ship with either 15.6 or 16
@@insanestudios8018 no they came out in 2021. Mine did ship with 15.6 unfortunately so just going to it's delay to 16.5 and hope for the best on an iOS 16 jailbreak
You've inspired me to learn phone repair! Thank you for being such an inspiration.😊😊
I would sure as heck buy an older iPhone 12 Pro than an iPhone 14 today.
I have a 12 mini, I recommend the 13 pro over the 12 pro.
I really liked my 12 pro it was a good phone
@@traydizzil95I’m looking into it. It’s definitely a huge update from the iPhone X
@@HanchakovskyThis one was expensive because of the storage. And Phone Repair Guru uses Canadian dollars, iPhones are sold at higher prices in CAD. I’m assuming you’re from the US btw
So would my dad
Wow, i wonder if there will be any screws missing.
There shouldn’t cause it’s the manufacturer who refurbished it and not a third party shop
@@johnzestercorpsjokes exist buddy
When I decided to buy an iPhone 13 Mini, I first did it through the Apple refurb page. At first the only odd thing I noticed was that the gap between the screen and the top bezel was a little wider than usual, allowing dust to enter, but nothing I couldn't remove manually with the help of something thin. The real problem came about a week later, when all mobile data functionality stopped working regardless of which SIM I was using. I took it to an Apple Store and they confirmed that the antenna was malfunctioning. The funny thing is that they couldn't exchange it for me there, because refurbs are web-only and therefore returns can only be made from there. Anyway, I returned it without any problems and simply bought a new one on Amazon. The new one has a perfectly sealed screen, so yes, that wasn't normal either. I suspect the antenna was the component that was originally malfunctioning on the original refurbished phone, and the technician just failed to repair it properly. I know my case could just be bad luck, but I just wanted to put my two cents in here for everyone. On another note, the 13 Mini is my favourite phone and I couldn't be happier with its form factor!
Don’t see any 13 minis on apple site yet
12 mini user here... Not a fan of apple and ios but there isn't alternatives
@@atlanticatmosphere6695 At least in Spain there were a few, but they ran out quickly
@@atlanticatmosphere6695
they discontinued it with the release of the new 15
It was available before
It wasn't normal that your brand new phone had a perfectly sealed screen?
I bought all of my Apple devices on their refurbished store, that's an iPhone, iPad and MacBook Pro. They are typically about 15% off but here in the UK Apple just cleared out a load of old iPhone 11s for £379 which is nearly half the original list price so if you don't mind buying something that is just a couple of generations old you can get some great deals.
I have an referbished iPhone 12 mini from Apple and I think it was £400
eBay rebubished is better
@@malikkellylmao
@@malikkelly ebay used is better if you really want value
Probably ex-demo or unsold/forgotten UK-held stock, I'd imagine. If you happened to buy one, does it have a UKCA mark on the box? 🙂
Actually, I might head to the Apple refurb site later. I know they're close to obsolescence (If not past it) but I miss my Xr, and I'm not buying another one through a reseller after the experience I had with that one!
(Previous owner defaulted on their account after I'd bought it, and the network provider blocked the phone without my awareness.)
My brother bought a iPad Pro refurbished by apple and everything is just like it's new. For the price this is really good.
I think that Apple Refurbished is good, but still, they should try with some older phones. The 12 will stop being sold refurbished after the 15 is out. If I could have bought a refurbished iPhone 5 I really would have.
Yeah I wish they would continue some of the older phones that would be cool!!!
i wanna buy refurbished iPhone 4
@@oldpcuser3136how much would you be willing to spend on an iPhone 4
@@oldpcuser3136you cant
Those phones don't have software support anymore, so I doubt they would do that.
I'm surprised it didn't come out the box charged at around 50%
God knows how long this phone was sitting dead at 0%, not good for batteries in the long-term.
Maybe it’s old stock because it looked like it was still on iOS 15
Very true.
0:54 I think the editor forgot to remove that part lol
My dad got an Apple Refurbished M1 MBP 2 years ago for almost 250 dollars cheaper than the actual price. It seems like a much better deal than brand new especially since it looks, feels and functions practically like a brand new laptop. I would never have thought to even go for refurbished from any other company, but since apple is so extensive in its testing, it doesn't feel any less than buying a new one.
I recently got my wife a refurb M1 iPad Pro. In 2022 I got a refurb M1 MacBook Air. Both were like new. Batteries new in both. You can certainly save money buying from other companies but I got decent discounts on essentially new devices with full warranties.
Don’t forget to pay the student discounts, even though you’re not a student 🤗. Apple doesn’t check if you’re a student.
Got my 12 Pro Max the same way, felt just like a new one. Definitely worth going for if your are on a budget.
For ones who are still in school/college, this is a bit of a tough sell for anything other than iPhones, because you can get student discounts on brand new devices. I got a $200 discount on my 16" M1 Pro two years ago when I got it new.
Nice vid. I expected that there would be errors in Apple's renewed iPhone program. But hey, it's as you say, it's Apple, you have to trust and refurbished cell phones can obviously have minimal errors. Saludos desde Argentina! 🇦🇷🙂
I love how this man combines his funny jokes and Good content
I bought an iPhone 11 Pro Max 512 GB Midnight Green last year and it’s been great, but in January, it kept having unexpected shutdowns so they had to exchange it for another one
Tim's evil laugh 3:15🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Weird, this box still has a plastic wrap around it, whilst the normal iPhone boxes have had pull strips since 2020 (iPhone 12 gen.).
Nope, starting with 13 the box no longer has plastic
@@PradiptaGitayaOh yeah you’re right. My bad. Still weird tho
The switch sound at 2:47 :D
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Apple refurbishment quality and attention to detail
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Apple refurbished phones are like brand new
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Bought my 13 Pro Max as a refurb from apple site. It’s essentially a brand new phone. Would 100% go refurb again in a few years when the 16 pro maxes are being refurbished
Watching this on my refurbished 12 mini from apple, love it. Spent over 700 with apple care, tho I do have a spec inside the camera, it’s on the rim so it doesn’t show on photos. Would recommend lol
Should get that covered under warranty. I was specifically looking for stuff like this
I feel like these are the exact same iPhones you get when you call in your carrier for a replacement. I find those also come on iOS 15
jailbreak go brrr
Does apple also give each refurbed phone a new battery?
1:17 at that point just buy the 16 pro already 😑
0:52 it wasn’t edited out
just curious, is the battery health full?
Yes. They replace the battery in refurbished devices.
Thanks! Just returned an amazon "premier renewed" iPhone 13 Pro that was scratched up, dirty from its previous case and had battery health of 90%... with amazon I've heard it's hit or miss. Obviously I got a POS lol. I just ordered an Apple refurb iPhone 13 Pro... I hope it's my old one that I traded in for a 15 Pro Max lol. Thanks to this video and a few Apple employee comments I'm super stoked. Oh and I sold my iPhone 15 Pro Max because it was buggy af and would ring whenever it felt like it... I've heard there are some issues with this device, but I need my phone to ring, not get a voicemail notification after complete silence. And no my settings are all set lol. Thanks again for a great video =]
Well, I never fell in love with Apple's devices, due to the locked down nature of their products. But I study mobile technology, which frankly includes mobile apps as well, and I am a developer/programmer (not my employment, just a hobby I do), and making mobile apps is actually something I'm also interested in. Guess I'll have to get myself at least some refurbished iPhone to get into multiplatform development more, keeping it for development and testing purposes. Android will however still be my primary mobile device OS.
I really wish I new this a couple of weeks before as my wife has just bought a brand new iPhone 14 Pro, I mean she loves it but when I saw you dissecting the iPhone 12, I thought it looked the biz 🤩
Thank mate. 😊😊😊
Just wanted to spread some 0:48 Minecraft chest sound awareness
What do u do with the phones after you use them for a video. Do u keep them or do u give them away to ur subscribers. Idk if u have answered my question since I'm asking this at 7:04.
I have an M1 Mac Mini I purchased from Apple refurbished. It replaced my late 2015 iMac, also from Apple Refurb. I gave that to my cousin and it's still chugging along. I also bought a 13 Mini from eBay refurbished for a 2nd phone for family calls only that came with 100% battery health and no scratches or other issues. That was cheaper than Apple's. Still, Apple refurbished has a decent record.
Nice video love the little bits of meme's in the video.
The Dwayne Johnson meme got me😂
Damn, I wish we had certified refurbished iPhones here in Australia
I think they ship it to you, FOR FREE!
Love your videos specially when I’m in work at Night shift 👍🏻❤️
I know this is most definitely just bad luck, but I ordered a refurbished iPhone 12 Pro from Apple at the beginning of the year and had to return it just a few days after because it started bootlooping all of the sudden.
I contacted Apple support and they sent me a replacement phone, but that one didn’t seem to be refurbished as the battery was at 93% (dropped to 89% just a few days later💀) and the frame had scratches around the lightning port.
I returned this phone as well and thankfully got my money back.
I’ve just been very unlucky but I won’t buy refurbished again. I safed all of my money to buy a brand new iPhone 13 Mini a couple of months later and this one is working flawlessly. I simply cannot trust refurbished phones anymore. I’ve had too many bad experiences with them. The issues with the 12 Pro I ordered were the icing on the cake…
yikes, that's some bad luck
@@DeerJerky it really was :(
But I’m actually kinda happy it turned out this way because otherwise I wouldn’t have my 13 Mini now so it’s all good in the end haha
@@Nexus7_ haha
The small clip of Tim Cook LOL about the charger made my day :D
I got my MacBook Pro refurbished and if I didn’t know any better, I’d swear it was brand new.
The rock in Touch ID man that caught me off guard 😂😂
3:32😂:D (’face reveal’ okok ik but whatever xd)
Great video. Question, what is the best screen cleaning spray I can buy for my iPhone and iPad?
Louis Rossman has documented cases about refurb MacBooks having water damaged boards, etc. I think there's still some room for error, but I also think that refurb can be a good deal and better than some random eBay sellers. May want to pop the cover and inspect your boards if ordering refurb MacBooks though. There's also some accusations about Apple maintaining sweatshop like conditions for the companies they subcontract to for repair and refurb.
But was it fully functional? I mean if it has mineral deposits from the water but still is 100% functional I wouldn’t necessarily mind.
I love your videos keep up the good work❤😊
I would check the MB as well for possible repair done to it
I applaud you for fixing your old videos with links in the comments
The iPhone makers will be tensed while watching your videos 😅
Nice vid, also prg jailbreaks video when?
0:42 As we, software devs, say: it always often works.
Correct me if i'm wrong, but I don't think that Apple does component level repair. I'm sure they have a proper tester, and they replace faulty module(s) based on the testresults.
I got an m2 air refurbished and it works perfectly for me. Well worth it if you don’t wanna pay retail.
That "the rock" side eye effect was a good one lol
Can you say "Mir hend es Päckli"? It's swiss german for "We have a package"
wir haben ein Paket
@@lukasfett3067nah swiss words are harder to pronounce
I’m a huge fan of your videos but what the heck was that! 8 minutes just to find nothing wrong! It’s like if you had an unboxing video for an empty box! Anyway keep up the good work and thanks for reading my rant.
Who let Tim Cook 💀💀
What about the battery health..? It’s one of the most important thing..
Many, many years ago I had a faulty iPhone 4 (sticky home button) which I took back to Apple on like the 350th day of the 365 day warranty and they said (at that time anyway) that whenever you get a replacement phone through the warranty that late in the cycle it would a "certified refurbished" similar to what they sell nowadays, the guy said that everything is a new part except the motherboard. I think things like fingerprints on the internals and overtightened screws happen on new phones too, Friday afternoon jobs are the worst 😂
even if my english is bad, i still look all of your videos !
Heloo im not cringe so i dont consider saying first
you r cringe pro max
Did I ask
@@ChArEeNMeThSuKaRealu def say first
@@Blostahahhahaha fax
then?
Couldn’t help but notice what seems to be a flipper zero on the left! NICE!
Hey mr. guros. U videos are very epicos. Can u reply me?
Hey, thanks
@@PhoneRepairGuruyooo no way
That Nintendo Switch click when putting back the SIM tray made me happy. 😊
chinese children dont leave fingerprints but american adults do
You should inspect the board as well. Jesa Jones from iPad rehab gets lots of apple refurbished devices that have really bad liquid damage. They’re often “fixed” really poorly and will eventually fail. This is because the refurbishment process is outsourced to the lowest bidder in China. Apple does visually inspect these devices really carefully, but only the outside. All the terrible board repairs aren’t visible.
Buying a new iPhone gets you a 2 year warranty in my country whereas buying a used/refurbished one only gets you 1 year. Only that tends me to buy a new one. Besides, only the case and the battery itself are getting replaced so the speakers or the microphone *could* be worse. So the additional 200€ for a new one seems fair to me.
This was an excellent video with good information. Apple is one of three manufacturers that I would buy a refurbished product from. The other two are Bose and Sonos. The three companies are the only ones that I am aware of that provide the same warranty as if it were new (one full year parts and labor, or even replace). If you buy a refurbished device from one of the big box stores or any retailer, you will most likely get a warranty that's from 30 to 90 days, and there is no guaranty that any replacement parts or components are OEM certified. Also, these retailers often use third party marketers, that most people never heard of. The parts may be generic.There may be other manufacturers that I'm not aware of that would offer one year warranty. Always do your due diligence before making your purchase.
Having been in Consumer Electronics since 1980, I know what I am talking about. A couple of tips:If your Apple device needs service (new battery, screen, etc.), only take it to an Apple store or Apple authorized service center. They are the only ones that use certified Apple parts and components. If you do use an authorized service center, never leave your device over night. If they insist that you have to, then leave and take it to an Apple store and have them service it. (Apple is less likely to go out of business).
Good editing! 😊
0:31 Is that Flipper Zero?
Yh
Nice video… need some recommendations where do recommend to buy an olde replacement screen for an iPhone 12… I’ve had bad luck with 2 colors are way off
4:33 was a very cool shot 👌👍
My refurbished iPhone bricked itself ~10 minutes after leaving the store. Went back and got it replaced for free with a brand new one
That incident did make me question the quality
Which only proves Apple refurbs are brand new phones. If it was truly refurbished phone a technician or technicians would play with it a bit. Quality control on Chinese production line is non existing so your phone was brand new but defective.
I looked at getting one prior to buying my 15PM, and I am also in Canada. They only had 13PM with either the 512 or 1tb. For the cost, it was the exact same as buying a 15PM brand new, mind you my 15PM is 256. From my POV, unless you really want more storage but you are fixed to a specific budget, you are better off buying new than apple refurb. It's just hard to stomach paying 1900 when that's how much a brand new 15PM base model is.
hi i am a big fan. Is there a video of the ''must have'' equipment to work on iphones? thanks
It is common to have rework stations on PCB manufacturing lines where assemblers modify boards that have issues. So they likely also do the same wherever they refurbish products.
The Face ID ROCK 😂😂😂
Is it also waterproof? As far as in know most refurbished phones still getting water into the device I wonder if apple refurbished phones are also not waterproof
0:53 was that intentional?
Maybe a roomtour of your store or setup? Btw nice video keep it up 👍
How is nobody taking about how the editor forgot to edit out the clip with text saying edit this part out 😂😂😂
Am going to buy an iPhone refurbished in first time ,any advice is it safe and good quality?
I bought my 12 pro refurbished through eBay. First one I got had the “display message” for a screen replacement. Bluetooth didn’t work but I sent it back and the new one I got works fine. Paid $500 for a 12 Pro 256gb. The new one doesn’t have a display message so I’m pretty happy.
Hi @phoneRepairGuru do you fix android phones or just iOS ??
they actually dont replace the shells least for macbooks i believe mine came with some scuff marks but u only notice em in the right light like 1 prcent of the time so very rare and u notice it only if u look for it. i was expecting this though and it was a steal for a macbook air with 16gb ram and 1tb storage that pretty much was new minus minor cosmetic stuff
Fun fact, did you know you don’t have to open your Sim card tray to find your device model just go into settings general about then find the serial number paste it into google and then you go. Do you have your phone or iPad model?
Hey, got a question here
I’ve got two older iPhones (7+ and 11 Pro Max) as backup and got me thinking if these can be upgraded in any way. I know battery upgrades and water seal can happen but I mean like aftermarket screen upgrades, 3d touch etc.
Thanks!
No. You’ll lose Touch ID/Face ID and get annoying pop ups about non genuine parts. You may even lose tap to pay.
What screens do you use to repair iPhones and if possible where can I buy them?
I just want to say thank you for making this video and giving your expert opinion on this. I found it very useful 🙏
Any idea where u can see the imei on a iPhone 15 in general, i have seen a few come through my hands on my work, and none of them have the imei on the simtray anymore? Especially if the device does not turn on. Cuz i wanna check if its the same imei like on the box
I am considering to get a Apple device next year, maybe an iPhone 13 or 13 Mini, and I am planning to buy it on Amazon Renewed. Tell me if it's gonna be worth it please!
Hey PhoneRepairGuru, did u use the nintendo switch clicking sound for when you out the sim card tray back in when you were looking for imei?