Yeah I have bought an iPhone x on ali express once and the screen was already swapped out and replaced with an lcd and the battery health was displaying unknown part which was weird, face id wasn't working aswell overall was just a bad phone Anyway if you want to giveaway one of the phone I'd be happy to actually have one of those from you, cause they're so expensive in my region...Nice content tho
I bought an used iPhone 14 Pro Max. I was getting a good deal price for it. It wasn’t an official Apple or Amazon store. It was from a store that deals in second hand / used / refurbished iPhones. Price was good because I wasn’t getting any box / cable / warranty. But the store owner assured me that every part is original. There were no changed made to the phone parts. First thing I did after buying this phone was, take it to Apple Store and get it verified. 😂 and I’m happy with the purchase. It was a 100% battery health, no parts replaced, someone bought it in USA and probably got a replacement unit from service centre for whatever reason because of which the phone warranty was expired. Even though the phone purchase date was hardly 3 months before.
I have personally never bought a refurbished phone but for us who are from continents like Africa it becomes a bit challenging as the shipping duration may take 2 to 3 weeks, one also has to look for shipping agents to facilitate for shipment of the desired product. All in all it may be a good or bad experience but it is very doable. Lastly i remain hopeful that i will receive my first Iphone from you. Be blessed.
Buying an iPhone 12 Pro in 2024 for 730$ is insane! Even though the Amazon one has a few scuffs at least the price makes sense . The Amazon has more value imo
It's important to recognize that when buying from Amazon, they might be using first-quality components, both externally (such as the battery and display) and internally. These parts are available at cheap prices.
The prices of Apple refurbished phones negate the reason why people seek out refurbished phones to start with; to pay that much for an almost 4 year old phone like the iPhone 12 Pro is ridiculous; I'd much sooner buy a brand new iPhone 15 at similar price!
Ordering from Apple directly is the best option in my opinion. On Amazon you rarely get what you expect, it can be practically new or abused to hell. Mostly it's scuffed up and the battery health is rarely above 80%.
About a month ago, I bought an iPhone 13 Pro from Amazon for somewhere around $780. It was “premium renewed” and it honestly looked brand new, it came with 100% battery life and it literally didn’t have a single scratch (at least not any I saw). It came in the Amazon renewed box with the guarantee and a certification to show that the phone was refurbished and tested.
@@tasbirrashid1262 I've had way more top or good condition items than not from Amazon renewed here in UK, I aways buy renewed and Amazon warehouse when I can.
The $730 price from Apple just flat out doesn’t make sense… It’s a 3 year old phone at only the base model configuration for a $200 discount from a brand new iPhone… I mean….how can anybody trust your reviews with this level of bs?
Well considering up until the IPhone 14 you’re getting mostly the same experience from the X-13 the main difference with the 14 and onward is the Dynamic Island
@@samufaus2 like I said pretty much the same experience and the device had gotten larger. You could always get the battery replaced. The only meaningful change is promotion display
13:00 the Amazon one has 100% because they reprogrammed the battery, but when you use it for a while it’ll drop back to the health that it really is. It happened to me with an iPhone XS Max bought in Amazon!
You can’t go wrong with Amazon renewed I bought an iPhone 12 and an iPhone 15 both in the lowest condition, both came in super good condition, I got the iPhone 15 for $580 and the battery was at 100 capacity
Yeah I got a 14pro max right when then 15s came out and it also has a 100 percent battery capacity I checked the battery cycles and it only had 61 cycles not bad wish I wouldn’t have got the max though… now I really want a 15 pro just for the major weight difference and better one handed use with the rounded off corners
Buying from apple is basically buying a brand new phone since they replace the case, battery and screen. They only use other parts that are not abused like the camera, processor, speakers and haptics with 1 year apple warranty that u can check in the website itself which is why its more expensive since its the same as brand new. Amazon on the other hand is a lot cheaper but the condition is an actual refurbished product it is used and shows signs of wear and tear like scratches and dirt
I've never used Amazon for refurbished phones but friends have. With Apple you will pay more, for the new display, cover and battery. I've purchased refurbished phones from Back Market here in the U.S. with no issues. My last purchase was a 12 Pro Max from them, it was absolutely flawless with 94% battery life. And I'm really happy with it. and still cheaper than buying a refurbished phone from Apple. For myself if the battery life is below 94% return it and order a another one. Thanks 👍
Hey dion it's been long since you posted ,hope your doing great, personally Ave always had one insecurity with refurbished phones one is that they might be having their own issues ,they might be stolen or locked and last but not lest they might have wear and tear which is often accompanied with a short lifespan.
It indeed has been a while, but I am back now and it feels good to be back! You bring up some good points regarding buying refurbished phones, this is why I recommend only buying refurbished from large retailers like Apple, Amazon, eBay, and to be cautious with smaller companies that may not use the same quality standards. Hope you are keeping well too! Lots more videos coming soon :)
amazon renewed is just preowned products in preowned conditions. apple preowned products are actually refurbished which is why they look brand new because it was pretty much dressed up w new parts to meet new condition expectations. hence the certified preowned.
Amazon renewed forces sellers to replace the battery as their policy states that any device needs a battery life of at least 80%. Amazon refurbished program isn't as crappy as you think.
@@ronaldmcdonald6067 i recently had bought an renewed Apple Watch Series 4 in “excellent” condition. Came with noticeable wear on the body. battery health was was literally at 76%. the screen was obviously replaced with an aftermarket display, there’s a grid like pattern (3x3) in the display. only really noticeable in/under light which is fine, okay whatever… but the display is sometimes finicky. all which i became fine with because it was still kinda expensive and still functional but again considering the condition i bought it in, not really good. would’ve returned it but i would risk getting another product in no better condition
@@ronaldmcdonald6067 i just got a watch from them in march classified as excellent condition and it came with obvious wear and a 76% battery health. the display is aftermarket and sometimes finicky too. it’s still functional, it’s just not excellent. i would’ve returned it but that risks the chance of getting another product with no better condition.
I bought an Amazon refurbished Apple Watch S8 Stainless in Excellent condition. It was brand new, probably a store return if I had to guess. An absolute steal for $380 !!
Hi! Nice to see and hear you! Haven't bought a refurbished iphone! The Amazon iphone still looked very used, but a new battery was installed, that's good. Nice video, so good to watch! I was able to buy a brand new iphone 14 pro max, 512gb in Estonia for 1500 euros and I love it! 15 pro max 512 gb costs 1799 euros in Estonia. Thank you!
One important thing you have not talked about is iOS support. How many more upgrades of iOS will 12 have before it is no longer supported? I think that is very important ! I have an iPhone X which works very well still though the battery life is going down but it is two iOS upgrades less than the new iPhones and I am starting to get apps that will not work with the old iOS which is a big reason I will get a new iPhone later this year.
iOS support is indeed very important and is something I always cover in my review videos. This video was more focused on comparing the build quality of each refurbished phone. To answer your question I would reasonably expect the iPhone 12 Pro to be supported with iOS updates until 2026 or even 2027 👍
Apple Certified Refurbished stock is sold like new. There is no difference in look or function from a new device. Amazon refurbished is not even close in comparison.
20:30 the whole point of buying refurbished is to save as much money as possible not spend more 😂 The apple certified one is 100% a worse buy Simply because it is nearly double the price of the Amazon one.
I bought an iPhone 13 pro from Amazon, one that ships and sold by amazon. Physical condition was perfect. Battery Health was 88%. Cost me $530. Top tier. Would buy again.
@@shinebabyshine. It specifically said renewed and this iPhone was shipped and sold by Amazon themselves. Renewed phones get a 90 day warranty so your pretty safe ( before the iPhone I purchased a Pixel 7 that was supposed to be in Excellent condition yet when I received the item it has significant flaws, so I returned for my money back no issues. ) Overall my iPhone has been great. It shipped with 88% battery health. I would purchased again. But I really like looking for shipped and sold by Amazon, because I trust Amazon more than the others.
I'm surprised with the quality of the amazon iphone, nice video, keep it up also man, we miss your giveaways :) you can also do refurbished iphones, we won't say no hahaha ❤
Not to be mean, but everyone knows that apple refurbished will look 100% new, and operates as such. But man, that 12 pro was expensive from them! Way too much money. Other companies that do refurbished are interesting to me tho. Many other companies you can use next time. Thanks for the detailed review!
You can see around the switches and the speaker that the Phone was used with a case. Actually a good sign from the prior owner, but could have been cleaned off better
I upgraded from an iPhone 7 (bought new at Carphone Warehouse) to a refurbished iPhone XS (bought via Amazon). This was not a good experience, as the iPhone had water damage - not done by me, and found when I took it into my local Apple Store to get a new battery - and both Amazon and the seller refused to provide any compensation. I then got a replacement XS from my local CEX store. Was very happy with my purchase but, because I thought my XS was about to lose access to the latest iOS, I upgraded to a mint condition Product Red 13 Mini in January this year (bought from the same place). Very happy with the phone, and would definitely recommend CEX. Thanks for the content.
Thank you for sharing. Sorry to hear your experience with the XS from Amazon was not good, but glad you got a 13 Mini (love the red colour). I actually wish Apple continued the mini iPhone size, but the good news is the 13 mini should still last for many years to come! :)
I got an Apple Watch from cex. Only found out afterwards it was extremely marked up in price. The battery health was 98%. After a week of use the health dropped to 11% and would have a screen on time of 5 minutes, I’m assuming they duped the health numbers or smt but cex is not it
I was just wondering what do you do with this phones once you buy them for this videos. But anyway great video and be blessed. Hopefully one day i will get my first iphone from you.
sad that here in india we have nothing of that sort offered by apple. Amazon do offer refurbished products but the price difference is so small that no one considers them. also, hope to see you uploading regularly. and will you be covering the new ipads?
amazon renewed is just preowned products in preowned conditions. apple preowned products are actually refurbished which is why they look brand new because it was pretty much dressed up w new parts to meet new condition expectations. hence the certified preowned.
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Have you ever bought a refurbished phone? If so what has your experience been like?
Yeah I have bought an iPhone x on ali express once and the screen was already swapped out and replaced with an lcd and the battery health was displaying unknown part which was weird, face id wasn't working aswell overall was just a bad phone
Anyway if you want to giveaway one of the phone I'd be happy to actually have one of those from you, cause they're so expensive in my region...Nice content tho
I bought an used iPhone 14 Pro Max. I was getting a good deal price for it. It wasn’t an official Apple or Amazon store. It was from a store that deals in second hand / used / refurbished iPhones. Price was good because I wasn’t getting any box / cable / warranty. But the store owner assured me that every part is original. There were no changed made to the phone parts. First thing I did after buying this phone was, take it to Apple Store and get it verified. 😂 and I’m happy with the purchase. It was a 100% battery health, no parts replaced, someone bought it in USA and probably got a replacement unit from service centre for whatever reason because of which the phone warranty was expired. Even though the phone purchase date was hardly 3 months before.
I have personally never bought a refurbished phone but for us who are from continents like Africa it becomes a bit challenging as the shipping duration may take 2 to 3 weeks, one also has to look for shipping agents to facilitate for shipment of the desired product. All in all it may be a good or bad experience but it is very doable. Lastly i remain hopeful that i will receive my first Iphone from you. Be blessed.
my current running iPhone 13 is refurbished. I didn't find any issue. Just the battery health was low, 86%
What's meant by refurbished phone
Buying an iPhone 12 Pro in 2024 for 730$ is insane! Even though the Amazon one has a few scuffs at least the price makes sense . The Amazon has more value imo
DEFINITELY… idk what he was talking about… it’s not even CLOSE
It's important to recognize that when buying from Amazon, they might be using first-quality components, both externally (such as the battery and display) and internally. These parts are available at cheap prices.
2020 phone for 730$ is a literall scam
The prices of Apple refurbished phones negate the reason why people seek out refurbished phones to start with; to pay that much for an almost 4 year old phone like the iPhone 12 Pro is ridiculous; I'd much sooner buy a brand new iPhone 15 at similar price!
Ordering from Apple directly is the best option in my opinion. On Amazon you rarely get what you expect, it can be practically new or abused to hell. Mostly it's scuffed up and the battery health is rarely above 80%.
It’s only a $200 discount from buying the regular newest pro phone…for a 3 year old phone
@@thetechrealist Just my opinion, but iPhones last a long time. Recently switched from an 11 to the 15 Pro Max
@@gLOWbalx But your opinion makes no sense....no offense
@@thetechrealist It's your opinion that mine makes no sense 😄
@@thetechrealistits your opinion which doesn’t make sense
About a month ago, I bought an iPhone 13 Pro from Amazon for somewhere around $780. It was “premium renewed” and it honestly looked brand new, it came with 100% battery life and it literally didn’t have a single scratch (at least not any I saw). It came in the Amazon renewed box with the guarantee and a certification to show that the phone was refurbished and tested.
Amazon renewed in us is better than uk
@@tasbirrashid1262 I've had way more top or good condition items than not from Amazon renewed here in UK, I aways buy renewed and Amazon warehouse when I can.
The $730 price from Apple just flat out doesn’t make sense…
It’s a 3 year old phone at only the base model configuration for a $200 discount from a brand new iPhone…
I mean….how can anybody trust your reviews with this level of bs?
Well it’s pretty obvious they would prefer you to buy new.. also iPhones unlike android phones hold their value VERY well
The phone will be 4 years old this october
Well considering up until the IPhone 14 you’re getting mostly the same experience from the X-13 the main difference with the 14 and onward is the Dynamic Island
@@dandreurquhart3511you’re forgetting display quality, battery and performance
@@samufaus2 like I said pretty much the same experience and the device had gotten larger. You could always get the battery replaced. The only meaningful change is promotion display
13:00 the Amazon one has 100% because they reprogrammed the battery, but when you use it for a while it’ll drop back to the health that it really is. It happened to me with an iPhone XS Max bought in Amazon!
eBay… bought my dad a 14 plus for $450 and it works perfect I’m feeling stupid af for buying a $1200 15 pro max
Watching this on an eBay refurbished iPhone 13mini (:
You can’t go wrong with Amazon renewed I bought an iPhone 12 and an iPhone 15 both in the lowest condition, both came in super good condition, I got the iPhone 15 for $580 and the battery was at 100 capacity
Sounds great! Thanks for sharing :)
Yeah I got a 14pro max right when then 15s came out and it also has a 100 percent battery capacity I checked the battery cycles and it only had 61 cycles not bad wish I wouldn’t have got the max though… now I really want a 15 pro just for the major weight difference and better one handed use with the rounded off corners
@@audy305 I didn’t choose the seller, it’s just random but the seller sends it through Amazon and they check it to make sure it’s good before selling
If it’s not good you can return it they have a super flexible return policy
Buying from apple is basically buying a brand new phone since they replace the case, battery and screen. They only use other parts that are not abused like the camera, processor, speakers and haptics with 1 year apple warranty that u can check in the website itself which is why its more expensive since its the same as brand new. Amazon on the other hand is a lot cheaper but the condition is an actual refurbished product it is used and shows signs of wear and tear like scratches and dirt
They changed the sim ejector on the iPhone 14
I've never used Amazon for refurbished phones but friends have. With Apple you will pay more, for the new display, cover and battery. I've purchased refurbished phones from Back Market here in the U.S. with no issues. My last purchase was a 12 Pro Max from them, it was absolutely flawless with 94% battery life. And I'm really happy with it. and still cheaper than buying a refurbished phone from Apple. For myself if the battery life is below 94% return it and order a another one. Thanks 👍
Yeah they’re really great some can be a hit or miss from back market but there refund system isn’t bad either
How are they selling a refurbished 12 pro for the price of a new iphone 15
Anyone know if Apple does supply and provide outer shell for their iPhones to 3rd party?
Thinking of replacing my 14 Pro chassis.
Hey dion it's been long since you posted ,hope your doing great, personally Ave always had one insecurity with refurbished phones one is that they might be having their own issues ,they might be stolen or locked and last but not lest they might have wear and tear which is often accompanied with a short lifespan.
It indeed has been a while, but I am back now and it feels good to be back!
You bring up some good points regarding buying refurbished phones, this is why I recommend only buying refurbished from large retailers like Apple, Amazon, eBay, and to be cautious with smaller companies that may not use the same quality standards.
Hope you are keeping well too! Lots more videos coming soon :)
@@DionMedia I am truly waiting for more videos
amazon renewed is just preowned products in preowned conditions. apple preowned products are actually refurbished which is why they
look brand new because it was pretty much dressed up w new parts to meet new condition expectations. hence the certified preowned.
Amazon renewed forces sellers to replace the battery as their policy states that any device needs a battery life of at least 80%. Amazon refurbished program isn't as crappy as you think.
@@ronaldmcdonald6067”Amazon refurbished program isn’t as crappy as you think”
That’s like saying “He’s the smartest kid in the retarded class”.
@@ronaldmcdonald6067 i recently had bought an renewed Apple Watch Series 4 in “excellent” condition. Came with noticeable wear on the body. battery health was was literally at 76%. the screen was obviously replaced with an aftermarket display, there’s a grid like pattern (3x3) in the display. only really noticeable in/under light which is fine, okay whatever… but the display is sometimes finicky. all which i became fine with because it was still kinda expensive and still functional but again considering the condition i bought it in, not really good. would’ve returned it but i would risk getting another product in no better condition
or they are just selling old stock they need to clear out
@@ronaldmcdonald6067 i just got a watch from them in march classified as excellent condition and it came with obvious wear and a 76% battery health. the display is aftermarket and sometimes finicky too. it’s still functional, it’s just not excellent. i would’ve returned it but that risks the chance of getting another product with no better condition.
this was actually super helpful, thanks Dion!
Ordered the iphone 12 pro from amazon renewed excellent waiting for it to be delivered with my fingers crossed.
Just got a used 13 mini on ebay perfect condition battery health at 100. For $320 basically same price.
I wish apple had more recent models like 13 and 14, upon checking in the US the only modes they have are the 12Pro and 12Pro Max
Same here in the Netherlands 🇳🇱
I’ve always used eBay for used and refurbished as you can ask the seller what the battery health is.
I bought one in a swiss shop. Website said that they put in used parts but it looked like new and worked perfectly until i dropped it lol
Could be a problem for some on older phones security updates end earlier .
I bought an Amazon refurbished Apple Watch S8 Stainless in Excellent condition. It was brand new, probably a store return if I had to guess. An absolute steal for $380 !!
the screens are different don't know if you have noticed
Hi! Nice to see and hear you! Haven't bought a refurbished iphone! The Amazon iphone still looked very used, but a new battery was installed, that's good. Nice video, so good to watch! I was able to buy a brand new iphone 14 pro max, 512gb in Estonia for 1500 euros and I love it! 15 pro max 512 gb costs 1799 euros in Estonia. Thank you!
Why would anyone in their right mind pay close to 600 bucks for 12 pro when the base model iPhone 14 goes for 700 Pounds brand new???
so they don't bother to clean the device?
The one from Amazon had a case on
One important thing you have not talked about is iOS support. How many more upgrades of iOS will 12 have before it is no longer supported? I think that is very important ! I have an iPhone X which works very well still though the battery life is going down but it is two iOS upgrades less than the new iPhones and I am starting to get apps that will not work with the old iOS which is a big reason I will get a new iPhone later this year.
iOS support is indeed very important and is something I always cover in my review videos. This video was more focused on comparing the build quality of each refurbished phone. To answer your question I would reasonably expect the iPhone 12 Pro to be supported with iOS updates until 2026 or even 2027 👍
@@DionMedia Oh that's great, thank you!
Thanks so much for the info, My iPhone 13 arrives tomorrow from Amazon, now I know how to check for battery life and defects.
How was your 13?
With how much the phone cost, I feel better buying a new one from apple or my mobile carrier
I totally agree with you 😊
Apple Certified Refurbished stock is sold like new. There is no difference in look or function from a new device. Amazon refurbished is not even close in comparison.
20:30 the whole point of buying refurbished is to save as much money as possible not spend more 😂
The apple certified one is 100% a worse buy
Simply because it is nearly double the price of the Amazon one.
I bought an iPhone 13 pro from Amazon, one that ships and sold by amazon. Physical condition was perfect. Battery Health was 88%. Cost me $530. Top tier. Would buy again.
our store iPhone 13 pro 128GB iS $465
may i ask if it was a "renewed" iphone and/or the seller you purchased this from? have you had any issues with it since purchasing?
@@shinebabyshine. It specifically said renewed and this iPhone was shipped and sold by Amazon themselves. Renewed phones get a 90 day warranty so your pretty safe ( before the iPhone I purchased a Pixel 7 that was supposed to be in Excellent condition yet when I received the item it has significant flaws, so I returned for my money back no issues. ) Overall my iPhone has been great. It shipped with 88% battery health. I would purchased again. But I really like looking for shipped and sold by Amazon, because I trust Amazon more than the others.
@@linye-jl1yd your phones are from China though, so your basically out of the question. But good price. 🤙
what about refurbished iphone from cashify?
The Amazon one looks like it has a new screen of some other kind than original, the speaker grill looks different than the Apple one.
If you have the money, buy from apple. It is the same experience as buying a new iphone.
What do you do with these gadgets after you've made the video
Return them…wouldn’t you?
Renewed Premium would’ve been more of a 1 to 1 comparison.
I'm surprised with the quality of the amazon iphone, nice video, keep it up
also man, we miss your giveaways :)
you can also do refurbished iphones, we won't say no hahaha ❤
What about a refurbished iphone from Walmart?🤔
Not to be mean, but everyone knows that apple refurbished will look 100% new, and operates as such. But man, that 12 pro was expensive from them! Way too much money. Other companies that do refurbished are interesting to me tho. Many other companies you can use next time. Thanks for the detailed review!
Other companiea that do "refurbished" arent eveb refurbished they're used.
@@redeem5858totally! That's the reason for the video. How do they look as a used phone that's refurbished...
You can see around the switches and the speaker that the Phone was used with a case. Actually a good sign from the prior owner, but could have been cleaned off better
i bought a 11 from Apple, after a few years i started to experience screen burn, other than that it was great
What about "Ebay refurbished"?
I buy a refurbished iphone 12 pro with 700 dollars :/
I upgraded from an iPhone 7 (bought new at Carphone Warehouse) to a refurbished iPhone XS (bought via Amazon).
This was not a good experience, as the iPhone had water damage - not done by me, and found when I took it into my local Apple Store to get a new battery - and both Amazon and the seller refused to provide any compensation.
I then got a replacement XS from my local CEX store.
Was very happy with my purchase but, because I thought my XS was about to lose access to the latest iOS, I upgraded to a mint condition Product Red 13 Mini in January this year (bought from the same place).
Very happy with the phone, and would definitely recommend CEX.
Thanks for the content.
Thank you for sharing. Sorry to hear your experience with the XS from Amazon was not good, but glad you got a 13 Mini (love the red colour). I actually wish Apple continued the mini iPhone size, but the good news is the 13 mini should still last for many years to come! :)
I got an Apple Watch from cex. Only found out afterwards it was extremely marked up in price. The battery health was 98%. After a week of use the health dropped to 11% and would have a screen on time of 5 minutes, I’m assuming they duped the health numbers or smt but cex is not it
@@cartmanuser Sorry to hear about your lousy experience with CEX.
I was just wondering what do you do with this phones once you buy them for this videos. But anyway great video and be blessed. Hopefully one day i will get my first iphone from you.
No offense, but I was surprised that you kept marveling at the outside of the Apple device, since you knew that it was new.
You actually got scammed. Excellent on Amazon means no visual damage.
Thats kind of worrisome because I just ordered a 12 Pro myself.
Super 👍
Yeahhh ima save the $300 lmao, presentation is cool n all but thats a one time thing
could you sell one of them to me
can i buy the amazon one from you :)
also love the video
I swear apple refurb is just apple old stock that they are shillin as *refurb*
sad that here in india we have nothing of that sort offered by apple. Amazon do offer refurbished products but the price difference is so small that no one considers them. also, hope to see you uploading regularly. and will you be covering the new ipads?
The new is always better
Backmarket
Interesting
Won’t you go to prison for 15 years in the UK for owning that pocket knife?
Not for owning it, if he carried it in public then yeah
refurbished phones are best
With Apple you get AppleCare.
I found a iPhone XS Max on Amazon going for 176.99 to 222.78
👍👍👍👍
can l get one as a giveaway 🎉😊
I think we already know who took this battle. I doubt Amazon did a good job with this phone to bring it back to its golden days.
IS THAT A ROLEX
First
You done messed with bs review,
You a sell out
amazon renewed is just preowned products in preowned conditions. apple preowned products are actually refurbished which is why they
look brand new because it was pretty much dressed up w new parts to meet new condition expectations. hence the certified preowned.