400HP for $40K! -- Is the BASE 2023 Nissan Z Sport the one to BUY??
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- Would you buy a 400 horsepower sports car for $40,000?? Well now you can with this 2023 Nissan Z Sport! This is the base trim level for $39,990 which seems like a GREAT DEAL for the performance! What do you get? Go ahead: CLICK to find out :) Also, be sure to LIKE, SUBSCRIBE and tap the notification bell if you enjoyed this review -- it helps us more than you can imagine!
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Happy 4th of July everyone! Hope you all have a good one! 🇺🇸🎆 Just to explain the situation, Nissan granted us special access to check out the Sport model but we only had about 20 mins and we weren't allowed to drive it since none of the other journalists did either. We included a clip of the Performance model with the automatic transmission because that is the one we were driving earlier on in the day. We hope you understand 👍
Happy 4th eat too much cake lol
Did you say that it has the shift indicator on when to shift ?
Am I the only one that thinks the base model without the rear spoiler looks way better
Well, this is different. Actually showing the lower options and less expensive models. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
but this idiot didn't state it has a OPEN DIFF, the literal WORST part about the base model that makes it a PASS.
One big difference not mentioned is the Sport doesn’t have a limited-slip differential. That’s a big deal with a car putting down this much power to only two wheels. Disappointed that’s not standard. I mean, if the Civic Si comes with an LSD, every Z should too!
It should come with a limited slip diff. I have a base model s550 ecoboost mustang and even mine came with a limited slip diff and my car is 10k cheaper. Sure there's going to be aftermarket but the diff alone is like 1000+ and professional installation.
@@andyrodriguez1326 agreed.
You also forgot that your not going to be paying 40k for this car with dealership markups it’s more like 50-55k so yea 50k and no LSD they can keep that might as well just wait for the new Honda Civic Type R
Yeah...the lack of a LSD on a performance car has to be the most substantial difference. Everything else you can more or less "live with" (e.g. cloth seats) or upgrade without affecting warranty (e.g. tires) and/or factory engineered/designed driving dynamics.
Don't forget Nissan is the one building them. They can't help stupid sometimes.
The no spoiler look is actually pretty sexy imo
It looks more like the original datsun 240Z without the spoiler.
I agree, it gives the shape a clean flow
Dealership $60k
@@rumble8014 please please don't say that. I talked to the sales woman that sold me my 370z and she said they aren't going to mark up the car. She said Nissan told them if they did they would lose their allocation of cars.
@@davidgaddy4328 Anyways, the base model for 40k is ass, you get bad brakes, and most importantly an OPEN diff, all competitors have lsd's, it means traction is horrid and handling takes a nosedive, even the civic si and gti have lsd's. you're forced to get the 49k Z to get the LSD, good brakes, rays wheels, spoiler, better exhaust, and decent interior(base interior is SAD as you can see), problem is at 49k you['re at Toyota supra pricing, which easily beats this car with a better engine, platform, and interior. Nissan is pulling a load of bullshit for the fans clearly, trying so hard to upsell you to the bad 50k version, don't be a shill, oh and they WILL mark it up, it's a Nissan dealer.. I will respond in a few months when I show you loads of marked up Z's
I like how we’re pretending that these will be available at MSRP
🤣🤣🤣 Pedigree
I like that you guys review lower trims as well as the most expensive-trim cars
Love the clean look of this base, without the blacked out roof & the rear spoiler.
I prefer the base model. I don't race or go to the track. All I want is a nice comfy fun to drive sports car for cruising. That's what I do in my spare time, cruise into the sunset looking good like Knight Rider!
Thr big brakes do look good though 👀
It was a beautiful car 40 years ago..... its still eye catching! Love it!! Great video!
honestly the base model is the way to go, and im sure in the future you can buy a direct replacement lsd from the performance model and bolt it right in. ( I hope )
For sure especially with the same performance you can definitely save some money for aftermarket parts, mods and tunes definitely considering getting
Awesome video of the all new Nissan Z!!! Great job guys!!
I think the 2020 370 nismo looks better than the New z
And the 300zx looks better than all of them.
The 370Z is pretty much the same car it was in 2003. It's about time Nissan changed the body style. 😂
It does in the right color for sure.
They will go for a lot more than 40K after dealer markup.
You shouldn’t do business with any dealer that does markups. Plenty of dealers will take your business at sticker price if you’re willing to travel c
not after the car buuble blows up. they will beg you to buy for invoice because interest rates will be astronomical. lol
Dealer markup isn't a thing here in Australia but even still, the driveaway price for the base model is $80k AUD, about $55k USD. I ordered an MY23 BRZ for just over half of that anyway, so I'm content for now.
Several of my local dealers have stopped markups because they have gotten in trouble 😂
Not if they meet my mama!
Great video!!! Looking forward for the release of this model Z!!! Awesome!!!
Great review guys. And the sound this thing makes is beautiful
Thanks!
I actually like the base model a lot. Nice entry wheels and for a change, no black wheels! Best sport car for the money.
Many people will do after market rims , exhaust and spoilers etc. on these.....the base is perfect for this.
@@layne4376 this is exactly a sports car
@@layne4376 and NO LSD.
Anyways, the base model for 40k is ass, you get bad brakes, and most importantly an OPEN diff, all competitors have lsd's, it means traction is horrid and handling takes a nosedive, even the civic si and gti have lsd's. you're forced to get the 49k Z to get the LSD, good brakes, rays wheels, spoiler, better exhaust, and decent interior(base interior is SAD as you can see), problem is at 49k you['re at Toyota supra pricing, which easily beats this car with a better engine, platform, and interior.
@@ant208 it needs a diff silly, that costs a shit ton to buy and install(99% of car guys do not have the expertise to remove and install a diff, which is extremely hard and technical), this is what happens when nissan sells a 400HP RWD sports car with a OPEN DIFF, no other competitor has, horrific for handling and traction, tuning it would overwhelm the tires. no proper burnouts due to open diff too, hyindais, gti's, civic si all standard with LSD and those are 200HP to 260HP cars.
Happy July 4th CC! I completely forgot u guys did a shorts on this a few months ago lol. It’s not a bad sports car for 40k.
Happy 4th to you also!
Had mine for a week, 40k msrp is nice, only seen 44k everywhere lowest. I will say it takes a few days to get used to that acceleration from 0, that thing wants to go forward! Seats definitely are snug if you're a heavier guy, great height for medium people. Heard tall people is fine as well [6ft+]
It's just a blast to drive, I'm already planning my first road trip lol
realistically a lot of owners would change the exhaust, wheels/tyres and possibly put in some better seats so the base model makes more sense.
Can totally be modded with after market parts and accessories. Did that with my base 370z in 2013, and it didn't looked "riced out". This dude gave us the secret sauce of which trim to get 👍
No lsd means a lot. This is not the model to go for.
@@2010ngojo a two way clutch replacement is much better and cheaper than nissans vlsd (which are known to be terrible on track)
Great review and great looking car, I've owned 4 different Z models through the years 1978 280zx, 1984 300zx, 1995 300z (loved this one) and 2004 350z Roadster convertible. The only thing that Nissan missed was putting T-Tops on this model that would make me want one. For now I'm hoping they'll add those next model, if not oh well, I still have the 1995. :-)
Meanwhile the Aspec integra with all of its ground shattering 200hp cost 43K…wtf😵💫
the acura interior completely annihilates the Z's in features & looks..the Z has a better engine but that's about it
@@dizzybone2000 Sure that is until Acura decides that the 2024 model will come with a TypeR engine option!
@@dizzybone2000 the Integra does not beat this car in looks. not even close
Right? Integra is priced horribly. I was disgusted by the price.
@@chickenmuffin Yeah it’s priced too high for such little performance you get. I’d rather get a 6speed 2.0T accord over the integra.
Don’t why but I prefer the base trim. And these wheels look fabulous with the proportion of the car.
I prefer the body-colored roof and no spoiler. Much cleaner look.
I would go for the base model. Add gripper tires, upgrade bolt ons when available! Better tires would mean better handling, quicker 0-60, and faster 1/4 mile times!
you going to need a limited slip diff, because base z comes with an open diff and won't hook up for shit. plus, plenty of mods for these engines already.
No LSD. No tires and bolt ons will make up for that.
I mean clearly nissain fucked up in this one. And my man is the prime example of not reading the brochure. You need LSD to do any sport related driving. Or you won't have any grip.
Bolt ons already available. It's a vr30.
Anyways, the base model for 40k is ass, you get bad brakes, and most importantly an OPEN diff, all competitors have lsd's, it means traction is horrid and handling takes a nosedive, even the civic si and gti have lsd's. you're forced to get the 49k Z to get the LSD, good brakes, rays wheels, spoiler, better exhaust, and decent interior(base interior is SAD as you can see), problem is at 49k you['re at Toyota supra pricing, which easily beats this car with a better engine, platform, and interior. You clearly do not know what the base model leae out
Great video! Happy 4th!
What happened to the iconic "What's going on TH-cam " opening? Another great video by the way
This makes sense for someone looking to mod the car. Why pay for spoiler, wheels, exhaust etc if youre going to replace them anyway. If this can be spec'd with the LSD, that would probably be the ideal configuration for modding.
This is the cleanest-looking sportscar I've come across. Love it.
It pretty comes down to if you plan on tracking your car. You won’t notice a difference around town if you have the additional cooling, bigger brakes and LSD, but on a race track you will absolutely need all of those parts. Most people will be fine with the base, even the vast majority of “auto enthusiast “ don’t hit the racetrack. Personally for $40k if you want to hit the track reliably your better off getting an Elantra N or BMW 230i M sport.
A BMW more reliable than the Nissan?...dont think so
@@signkutter9218 I can tell you’ve never owned a luxury product. I’m not going to educate you. Just know that you’re missing out because of your ignorance.
Hell you can get an EN for 35kOTD.
I got a VN 21 DCT for 35K OTD
@@xxtoptankxx6873 yeah but you’re in an ugly car. Sorry but Hyundai has the ugliest cars on the road. The N cars are quick for the money but they come with having to deal with the Hyundai dealership network, Hyundai reliability, Hyundai resale value. I’m glad they have been stepping up as a company but they still got a little ways to go.
@@postalpancho well looks are subjective and I’d say the Veloster is the best looking out of the 3 available. If all you have is “they are ugly” then you don’t got much. My VN has a 10 power train warranty that is a manufacturer warranty. With 7 year body. After 2 years of pwndership I haven’t had a problem other than hitting a road gator. So reliability isn’t a concern for me now.
I love the rims here! The look much better than the black ones. This is a nice looking ride.
You only like the rim of the wheel? What's wrong with the rest of it?
Thanks for the review, but I got to see every single part of this vehicle up close and personal, but not a single shot taken of each side nor any shots of the entire dash on the inside...or some sort of panoramic view. I would really appreciate these sorts of views. I see so many photos of cars taken too close up at at weird angles in so many of these reviews.
Can't wait to get my hands on one of these.
Happy 4th of July pals. This car looks amazing. Keep up the good work.
Happy 4th to you as well!
a Targa top version would look awesome
Yes sir!!! A 2024 version is a must for me or how about T-tops...
@@Robbover yeah, a T top like an old Pontiac Firebird would look awesome too
The more I see the new Z the more beautiful it looks! I had a 350Z which was a great, pretty car, but this one Nissan knocked out of the park! This one looks good even without the spoiler.
Anyways, the base model for 41k is ass, you get bad brakes, and most importantly an OPEN diff, all competitors have lsd's, it means traction is horrid and handling takes a nosedive, even the civic si and gti have lsd's. you're forced to get the 49k Z to get the LSD, good brakes, rays wheels, spoiler, better exhaust, and decent interior(base interior is SAD as you can see), problem is at 49k you['re at Toyota supra pricing, which easily beats this car with a better engine, platform, and interior.
Base models are always the best car. As long as it takes me where I need to go safely.
Yep... Take the new Bronco for example. Many people don't know you can order a stripped down Base model with steelies for around $29,000. It still has the ecoboost, alot of off-road goodies, It comes stock with an auto but you can specially order it with the 6 speed manual with a crawl gear for the same price.
I’m so happy manufacturer’s are starting to not intentionally putting inferior head lights on bad model cars.
Francisco, even base model Corvettes have had superior headlights ever since 2005. To be honest, even a base model Z06 from 2001 would be a better track car than this stripped down Nissan. This doesn't even have LSD. Lol
@@The_Hulkster most people don’t need an LSD. LSDs don’t really matter until you are at 7/10s and most people can’t drive that good anyways. The base Miata doesn’t have an lsd and it is still fun to drive.
@@postalpancho Wow. I kibdly disagree. You and I have gotten along fine in previous videos and I don't know why this is happening now. I know you're a better gentleman than this, sir.
I have a 2003 350Z base, and not having an LSD is not the end of the world. I would gladly put $10k back in my pocket. If you are an enthusiast with disposable income to track your car regularly then by all means pay the premium. I am not that person though.
My 240sx has 462 whp & 411 wtq and ran that on open diff ..... it was a one wheel wonder even with MT drag radials. It was horrible. So imagine 350 tq at 1600 rpm to 1 wheel ...
Maybe if your not getting on it or driving like Miss Daisy, then its ok. But most who buy this car WILL step on it and its going to spin one tire and not go anywhere.
I will easily get the performance model because it has the lsd with big brakes and the 19x10's in the rear so i can put on some sticky 305's .... and it has the better suspension because i dont plan to lower it at all ...
Great review & info The Z is very hot.👍
Question is do I ditch the Camaro SS.
Wow!! This will be my only one Nissan sportscar for me to be able to afford one someday with the Nissan GT-R as well. Overall, fantastic job and video bro.
Actually if you look in the used car market, you can actually find some solid priced GTRs. Of course very few are priced close to 40k.
Looks insanely good in this color.
Both packages are priced pretty well. You get a lot for $40k and even if you go performance the upgraded seats, brakes, wheels, exhaust, and infotainment with wireless AA and ACP is worth $10k
This car's price point is pure shit. There are so many better options in both of it's price brackets.
@@ToneysReviews What would you get in this price bracket? I'd probably get a golf R but I value the practicality it offers.
@@rambow70 all MOPARs are cheaper, faster, have backseats, and come with better features.
When you go for the fully loaded one at 54k, you are now in the RS3, 240i, Supra, and etc. territory. The Z performance is slower than a Mustang GT.
This car is a 370z with a new (weaker) engine. Everything in this car is identical to the car before it outside of the infotainment and the LCD display gauge screen.
@@ToneysReviews Right but there is probably some decent tuning potential in the new Z. I bet you can get 450whp with a tune in a 3,500 lb car versus 485hp in a scat pack that weighs 4,200 lbs. Also those mopar cars get terrible gas mileage. I think it's closest competitors are the mustang GT, 240i, and supra. RS3 and S4 being AWD might attract a different audience.
@@rambow70 Have you seen this MPG for this car? It's only 19.7 (man)/22(auto) combine, lol. This car fails in every cat.
And you can not compare a "tuned car" to a "non-tuned" car. That not even a fair comparison because you can also tune the MOPARs.
You are free to do what you want with your money, but at the end of the day this car is over priced.
Let me ask you this, why spend 54k or 40k, when you could spend 49k or 57k on a BMW 240i and destroy the Z in every way?
This is the first video that I've watched of the new Z where I was impressed with how it looks. The clean look of the base model looks better imo.
I definitely prefer the base model now that I see this. If I want a black roof, I can always wrap the roof panels.
Love the look of this base model SOOOOOO much more than the performance versions.
@@ToddDolce but it's ass, bad brakes and OPEN diff which is insane, Nissan is forcing peeps to get the shit 50k version that has the performance pack but gets clapped by 50k supra
@@ForzaMonkey Anyways, the base model for 40k is ass, you get bad brakes, and most importantly an OPEN diff, all competitors have lsd's, it means traction is horrid and handling takes a nosedive, even the civic si and gti have lsd's. you're forced to get the 49k Z to get the LSD, good brakes, rays wheels, spoiler, better exhaust, and decent interior(base interior is SAD as you can see), problem is at 49k you['re at Toyota supra pricing, which easily beats this car with a better engine, platform, and interior.
@@roboticvenom1935 Big Bummer. Yeah I figured there had to be a catch. Oh well a hard pass for me then. Friggn Nissan.
The markup is going to be insane.
I love the clean body lines kudos to the designers.
Bad news, this car will cost around 80K-90K. I was on the waiting list and they offered to me at that price range. They still don’t know the price of the car but their markup is 30K above MSRP so no 53k. This offered was given by my local dealership last week. I live in Delaware.
that 'ball' shift knob is so cheesy.. I remember driving new 300zx's in 1990 and the manuals had a very high end, satisfying feeling
I noticed you used the footage of the higher trim for the test drive. Although you said the performance is the same it would still be nice to see that consistency.
We would have loved to but we only had 15 minutes with this car since it was not part of the main media drive
@@CarConfections Oh wow that’s not a lot of time at all 🤯
They still retain the 3 gauge cluster on the center top dash just like my old 70's ear design. It also had a manual choke back then and the hood opened from the windshield tilting forward.
Boomer and a Datsun 240Z
Very Nice. :)
Finally someone reviewing the base model
Buying the base model is usually best. I did this with my STI so I could add the aftermarket parts I wanted and make it my own.
Your sti has a differential. This one doesn't, which means it's a 400bhp grocery getter.
@@VinRZ dont all cars have a differential?
I prefer the single color look over the black roof versions. And no heavy black wheels to make it look slower.
Agreed 100%.... Now, design me one with a Targa or T-top for 2024. Then it's a wrap!
Were you using the paddle shifters ? I didn’t see you shifting when u squealed the tires.
Did you actually drive the base? I think you had an auto transmission in the clip where you were driving the car?i would like to know how the base compares to the higher end car while driving. Thank you for this video, it’s the only one on the base that I’ve seen!
He didn’t drive the manual.
We only had 15 minutes to check out this specific model so we had to just cut to the automatic model we drove earlier in the day for some context
@@CarConfections I understand, thank you!
I owned quite a few of them back in the late 90’s. I think even the 91 model stickered over $40 back then, but that was also one of the downfalls of the car.
That's crazy that a 1991 Nissan Z cost over 40 thousand dollars! Adjust for inflation and that means the 1991 Nissan Z costs 70 thousand dollars in today's money!
@@braetonwilson4296 that was the biggest issue with that car. Their final year production was 1996 and they were over $50. The competition in the early 90’s was the RX7 turbo, Supra turbo, Stealth and Corvette.
Reminds me of my 1973 240 Z.
Is it just me or are your hands Ken barbie size 🧐anyways lol Nice review mate!! I had a base model 2017 370z 6MT and I loved it. I'm sure the new Z base will be thrilling.
damn it looks good...form follows function..i wish i was in the market
I dunno what no limited slip differential be … but I ain’t paying no 10k more for it …
this car be pretty. Inside and out. Beautiful. Wow
The base was the one to buy of the last model at $30k Canadian (23k USD)
I am purchasing this car! Have a Sentra and it is quick. I couldn't imagine 400 HP. GEEZ!
Love my 230i BMW with m sport trim at 40k as well. 400 hp isn't necessary plus with the rising gas prices.
Darn, I love this car... I am anxious to see how much it will cost here in Canada.
55k
$46,498 msrp
I have never wanted a base model of any car.. Until now.. The only way one would know it's the base model would be if the driver told them that this 400hp. Beauty 😍 is the base model..
Like the cleaner look without the tacked-on front splitter and rear spoiler.
It ain't gonna be 40 thousand that's for sure, I've been so exited for this car, but what the dealership has been doing to these prices got me back to stop dreaming abt owning one in the near future.
I’m confused by this video. Title say says base model which is shown at the beginning of video, but during the test drive they are driving an automatic with the upgraded seats so is this the base model or the upgraded model? Also at the beginning of the video the car they were showing was a stick shift and the car they were test driving was an automatic.
Waiting for the day when z production comes to smyrna, TN 🇺🇸 🇺🇸
This makes me wonder what a youtube video about the 1987\88 300ZX would have been like (back then when the car was new)
That's exactly what I would want. I need to test drive one before I consider trading in my Camaro.
I love the understated look of the Sport. Non-starter with no LSD. Hopefully, Nissan gives it the LSD for 2024.
are there even pre orders for this yet?
Love it EXCELLENT VALUE
Does this base model come in automatic?
Any word from Nissan as to WHEN the Z will actually be in showrooms in the USA? I want to see one in person and sit in one, and possibly test drive one. My last Z was an '87 300 ZX in 1988.
You should see them next week
I used to have an 87, it's in my pic. What a special car, but awful to work on
Also the akebono brake upgrade can be done for under $1,000.
Like the base model. Not having a LSD is a bummer but shouldn't be to bad to upgrade, because that is the only other thing I want out of this great little car.
Just a heads up, in the future you might want to blur speedo. Just in case.
$40k not bad at all it’ll probably be around $700 per month 👍
Same price is what I'm paying for my truck
I loved my 91 300zx 2+2.
This car is nice 🔥🔥
If this was 1987 I would be so excited right now.
That’s a clear winner
Does engine have dual port direct fuel injection valves to burn off carbon deposits?
Best looking Nissan ive seen in my life TBH
$39,400
Yet the SLK maintains its reasonable price structure. This four-season sports car was introduced in 1997 with a base price of $39,700. Five years later, the base price for the 2002 model is only $39,400. This is what I paid for my Mercedes 2002 SLK 320.
buddy it's 2022 there is no way you are getting a new slk for 40k$ with the inflation and supply chain shortage
I like the base, reminds me of a Jaguar F-Type
My dad has the same color too black cherry. And red interior
Need to drive the stick. That's what cares like this are made for. I also agree with many others here a machine like this NEEDS a posi rear.
I'd go for the base but, the obvious blank buttons and premium fuel is a downer. The base in Rosewood is beautiful.
head lights begging for eye lashes 😆
If this car was my next choice I would go for the Sport with 9spd auto.....but Nissan needs to include the front & rear spoilers, LSD, and additional monotone color choices( at least as options) ..........If they were to bring out an even lower cost 2.0T 4 cylinder ( say 290hp/280 torque) and lob off another $5k then I would have no hesitation...Why a 4cylinder? Supra is doing this and Supra is the main competition....It would also allow Nissan to occupy a $35k (ish) price point to better compete against the GR86/BRZ on the lower end as well as the Supra on the higher end...
nissan doesn't have a good in house 4 banger in active development so the money nissan would pour in to develop a "cheaper" model will be more expensive
I didn’t see you shifting on the test drive, so I guess you were driving the automatic? ( both hands on wheel while acceleration)
BASE 2023 Nissan Z Sport evolutionary in refresh/updates = still room for improvements ...
when will we be able to build & price them
I remember when Altima was a serious contender and it came out with the 3.5 motor, they had a Traction Control option for 250 dollars, you could not find one option that way to save your life.This is just part and partial Nissan, the same corporate who brought you the beloved CVT and killed Infinity.
open diff this nissan has
That ornery laugh during acceleration is priceless!… 😎
$55k after Dealer Mark Up