RedLetterMedia Star Wars Rogue One Commentary
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If Rogue One traumatized your kid, you're a terrible parent for not traumatizing them beforehand with a good 'ol 80's Family Film like Temple of Doom or Robocop.
Robocop? Jeez that film grosses me out and I'm 49
Temple of Doom scarred me for a long time. My dad used to find it funny to scare me by chanting "kalimah" and pretending he was going to rip my heart out.
Maybe that has something to do with my fear of gore.
So damn accurate
@Mikko Salokivi Lol oops yea
@@rhettorical Bless your father.
The story about Jim's kid is so fucking great.
He must be one droll dad.
It gets not one of the longest rich evans laughs, but one of the best
2:22
I had a kid in the theatre sitting in front of me. After the movie he turned to his dad and says "I think this is where Episode 8 will catch on!"
Good job dad, your kid totally understood what was going on.. xD
I love the Jim, Canadian Jim part. As if anyone listening had any clue.
I saw it in a cinema and the scene where Darth Vader kills the rebel a 5 year old kid behind me started screaming because he though Darth Vader was a good guy for some reason.
Probably because when Vader showed up all the "I clapped!" fanboys and girls started cheering and clapping.
Holy shit that rocks
He was raised on pro-Empire propaganda.
@@pearz420 Yeah... He probably had all the toys and his father was a government bureaucrat.
He had only followed Darth Vader on Twitter up until that point.
That Duracell story made me laugh just like Rich
I forgot how gorgeous this film is. I also completely forgot everything else about it.
This film is like the insanely hot girl at school that you find out is a complete idiot with no opinions on anything and is just devoid of all personality.
@@itsd0nk Great analogy but I'd go a step further. Teenagers are at least still maturing, so someone like that still has a chance to grow into a completely different person down the road.
Star Wars is about 40 years old now. So this is more like a fully grown person who still has the exact same mindset as that high schooler, despite all the time they've had to mature.
It felt much more restrained visually than the sequel trilogy movies. I will give it that.
@@fv2977 r reference ehrrrhhhhhh err her terre for rrrr
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I love how anything RLM hops on my home page within minutes of upload
Haha lol right? Glad I'm not the only one
They really dialed in the algorithm this past year
This is the good timeline
Wait, this is a legit RLM channel?
😂😂
"this movie is nothing but fan service" wrong, there was also tentacle hentai
So its all fan service
That Duracell Ad joke is worthy of a legit RLM Episode of Half in The Bag.
I clapped, i clapped when rich cackled like a witch!
He broke new ground!!!
It subverted my expectations
Witch Evans is one of my favorite RLM characters
This movie is the finest in Star Wars cosplay.
If we could harness the power of Rich’s laughs we could power a city
Or at least 1000 bitter, sniveling weasels.
We can, and I have. It's a magical place, with Tums festivals 8 days a week.
I just cringe every time he laughs then get angry and turn down the volume.
Or aT lEaSt our BoNeRz
Or a small moon
"Star Wars is a little creepy."
-Rich Evans
Just because Anakin murdered women and children....and Luke/Leigh both strong with the force, make out a lot as brother and sister, and so on and so forth...
It totally is. The Empire are portrayed as the villains, but both the Empire _and_ the Rebel Alliance are slave-owning cultures and nobody seems to care...
That's an understatement.
I liked Rogue One. But I also enjoyed this commentary track.
Twenty years ago, the British music magazine had a feature called The Reaper, where the author took the piss out of "sacred cows". The feature was discontinued before The Reaper tackled two of my artistic heroes - Stanley Kubrick and John Coltrane. As much as I love these two men, it wouldn't feel like a personal attack to see them mercilessly cut down to size, whether fairly or in an exaggerated manner for comedic impact.
Exactly. People who can't laugh at themselves and their "fandoms" are miserable bores to be around.
Anytime I see that Scout walker hear Rich’s voice on The Nerd Crew shouting, “AT-ST! AT-ST!”
IT BROKE NEW GROUND!!!!!
@@mihirlavande I APPLAUDED IT FOR BEING DIFFERENT!!!
Me personally, I LOOOVE Rich Evans
@@ndz9818 VERY cool
Did you know that Rich from the Nerd Crew and Rich Evans from Ellen are never in the same room? Just chew on that truth bomb for a moment.
That's unsettling, they don't even try to cover Peter Cushing's enormous bald spot. How's that for a CGI kick in the balls when you're dead.
Or adjust the size of his left eye from the size it was on the cast used for mocapping. The one made with the joke huge left eye from Top Secret.
@@johndelye3402 Yeah! I heard that story! I'm sure this is exactly what he was thinking that it would be used for after he was dead. How disrespectful.
Best thing about being dead. No fucks left to give.
It's also true about being old.
Old, dead.....different gradations of the same thing.
@@pretorious700 Except ghosts. Ghosts still seem to give a fuck. Oh man, what about bald ghosts. They must really have a bone to pick. Oh man, bald, old ghosts. Now that is a house that is haunted by a ghost who is looking for some satisfaction. BOO! I was bald and old and did not give a fuck! I'm back now, just me and Pete and we got some haunting to do.
After listening to this commentary I have come to the conclusion...that everyone thinks about Star Wars too much.
Everyone but the people responsible for actually making it past George Lucas it seems.
@@axelhopfinger533 Buuuuurn hahaha
Seriously. Just watch the damn movie.
THANK YOU, jesus.
@@axelhopfinger533 Kathleen Kennedy probably can't even name the movie titles in order
At least 5 of my friends have fallen asleep to this movie.
What has always been weird in Star Wars is how seemingly nobody's can show up at the rebel's command planning table front row and center to give their input on what the rebels should do next.
Surprisingly realistic I know, it's amazing the social power some people have. There are countries that only exist in the UN because George Clooney cared about it.
*checks IMDB page
*actor/actress worked with J.J. Abrams 5 years ago
…makes sense
It's a round table situation
@@lucasoheyze4597 has the Department of Defense ever invited you to a "round table discussion" for your views on how we should handle Afghanistan? Probably not...
The Department of Defense is way more like the Empire. The Rebels are based originally on South American communist guerrilla resistance groups...that's even the origin of Princess Leia's haircut.
I think visually (costumes, props, ship design, even the haircuts etc.) Rogue One perfectly blends in with the OT. The cgi effects look very Star Wars-y, for example, the Star Destroyers have the look of the old models; kinda pale, white, over-exposed a little - which is great because it blends seamlessly with A New Hope.
So, visually, it's a perfect Star Wars movie. Even the pacing and choreography of the space battle over Scarif screams Star Wars in and out. Also, what I liked a lot is that the Imperials were at least a bit of a threat. Their officers were not a bunch of inept, whiny whimps like in the god-awful sequels. Granted, taking out stormtroopers with a stick is really lame, but at least during the ground battle on Scarif, the troopes were kinda competent. Especially Vader's Star Destroyer arriving at the end kinda made you feel the menace of the Empire. Still, a faint echo of the Empire we know from the Empire Strikes Back, but it's anough to not be annoyingly incompetent.
BUT, the characterss and the plot (apart from K2SO, Krennic and that veteran blue X-Wing commander) are so lame that it's not canon to me. Even though all the fanboys and girls drool over Vader's lightsaber mayhem at the end, I feel it's totally out of character for Vader as we know him from the OT. (Granted, it's clearly in line with prequel Anakin's character, but that one sucked as well, so it's not canon to me, either.)
So, summarizing, Rogue One looks and feels like a good Star Wars movie, but the story and characters suck ass.
The whole movie is bad.
dude what? they completely ruined the empire in this film
@@fyfyi6053 How do you 'ruin' the empire when even in the OT they get comically beaten up by teddybears and their entire plan was to, for no reason, build a new death star 5x larger than the last but with a weak point also 5x larger?
Rich nailed it with his take that people love it because it makes them feel like a grown up justified watching Star Wars. The series was never about being serious or gritty, I don’t know what this obsession with trying to turn it into that is.
“Can you imagine making a Star Wars comedy film?”
RLM predicted Last Jedi
The whole series has comedic elements in it....Revenge of the Sith was practically Three Stooges slapstick.
I still think Kyle Katarn stealing the Death Star plans is better
That game needs a remake.
@@brennanbarber7469 These movies need a remake
He was one of the best Star Wars characters ever.
That's so shameful about this movie. It blatantly steals from already existing, established storylines and characters while Disney says "Nothing from the Expanded Universe is canon anymore!". Another fine example is Jyn Erso and Jan Ors. The similarities are stunning.
@@brennanbarber7469 No it doesn't. They'd only fuck it up.
Gareth Edwards is a great director. Unfortunately his films are close to being amazing but something is missing. Monsters, Godzilla and Star Wars are all missing something but they all look amazing.
Not really a Gareth Edwards film.
Edward’s Godzilla is an awful film, and so is Rogue One. But he was basically fired halfway through so it’s not really his movie anyway.
Monsters is great. It's the most subtle, realistic romance ever.
@@Hoganply I agree it's his best film. Pound for pound it has better characters and story then both Godzilla and his Star Wars movie.
For Me personally, I love this film!
I think it gets too much flak just because it released in the same era as nu-starwars and is associated with their quality.
I CLAPPED, I CLAPPED when I saw DARTH VADER!
I was soo bored.
Very cool
I don't love it, but it's better than Force Awakens and the prequels.
I love when Jay says "...that's the PROBLEM..."
10:37 A lava castle is probably a step better than a sand castle for Vader.
It's remarkable how few upvotes this has.
I dont like sand.....
BOTW and RLM Highlight ep? Today was a good day!
We are all truly blessed
I remember when they announced this movie at some con or something and the teaser for it was a voice over of Alex Guinness with his “before the dark times” line as the camera slowly panned over this forested landscape and up into the sky and you saw the outline of the Death Star looming over the planet while a slowed down, sinister version of the Imperial March played. Then the screen cut to black and you heard a bunch of radio transmissions from the “rebels” who were stealing the plans and they all start turning frantic and panicked as they seemingly die one by one, until it’s just a bunch of garbled screams. Then the title came up. It was incredible. Made it almost seem like a horror movie.
This movie should've been a heist movie that turns into a horror when the darth guy finally caught up with the rebel spies.
Girl should've tried to transmit the message while her mates sacrificed themselves to delay vader man.
@@imoshyumosh3629 Title it "Obi's Eleven".
But it's so gritty. And realistic. And I can finally take Star Wars seriously
Maybe us gritty folk like that but you die hard star wars fan maybe doesn't. Its personally my fav after ep 5 and 4.
But it's boring, and the characters are boring and one-dimensional. It has absolutely nothing going for it except for how it looks and that one battle.
It’s nice to have a Star Wars movie that doesn’t have porgs n baby Yodas and bb8s and all that crap and something that was made for the older fans and not geared towards 9 year olds everyone says it like it’s a bad thing “uh you like this one cus it’s the gritty one and more grown up” yeah so 🤷🏻 why do you say that like it’s a bad thing
@@georgestetson5572 because that’s all the movie really has going for it as well as overblown fan service. It’s only the surface level stuff in it that’s good, but you don’t care about the characters and it falls flat
@@georgestetson5572 People say that because usually when someone only likes a movie because it’s “grown up and gritty” and nothing deeper than that, it usually either means that you’re not very smart or you’re 14.
Disappointed Mike said "planet 6 of 12" when I expected him to say "7 of 9"
Same
The screenplay is the main downfall. Jin had a very thin character. She said that her nature was to "rebel", but she barely demonstrated that.
Um…she was in jail at the beginning of the film and clearly showed she wanted to fight the Empire. That’s why the opposing team is called “the Rebels”. They all are rebelling from the Empire.
@@oneANGRYelf It was weak. Maybe it was the actor's presentation, or the script. But I just felt like I had no reason to believe she had much of a rebellious heart, or passion for her mission. The movie should have taken some loose inspiration from the original Dirty Dozen, with small edits for differences in the SW universe, and expected Disney audience.
Yeah, Erso was so bland and boring in this movie. But then most of the characters were.
But she has a personal connection to the Death Star she’s a deep character for sure!
(Sarcasm obviously 🤣)
_"I have the unpopular opinion that Jedi are boring as shit."_ - Rich Evans
Couldn't agree more. You can include the Sith and the just Force in general.
"I'm of the opinion that Jedi are boring as shit." And based on Rogue One, so are Rebels.
I looooooved the aesthetic of this film. Why they never stuck to it like this is beyond me.
They literally made Greig Faser the director of photography for the Mandalorian.
@@danielreckman I think they mean the rest of sequel trilogy
Do you remember when they forgot to color grade the Han Solo movie?
The aesthetic is crap. Dull, monochromatic colours and lighting, pointlessly wobbly camera work and lacklustre use of the widescreen frame.
@@richardcahill1234 So you'd rather they look like the horrid prequel trilogy? Rogue One was literally the required standard.
I can understand them saying the screenplay sucked, because it did, but it did look cool enough for me to throw it on every 6 months or so and enjoy it to a degree
Rogue one has better characters than the new trilogy.
Bring it.
lmfao Not really, John Boyega and Daisey Ridley as Finn and Rey are infinitely more likeable than these boring, bland assholes
The disney trilogy characters started off a lot better but then they were just horribly wasted. So I'd say ultimately it's a wash, they all sucked by the end.
@@nagger8216 Yeah, I never understood all the hate for Finn and Rey. I liked them, Finn a lot even, and honestly he should have been the focus, leaving Rey more mysterious and threatening even. Everyone just got too fixated on the "Mary Sue" ridiculousness, and then that became a culture war touch point, so now everyone has to pretend they like things the don't, and don't like things they would have never complained about otherwise. If these exact same sequels had come out RIGHT after the Prequals, back before the internet fan culture and the culture wars REALLY went insane, I doubt any of the fanboys would have been complaining about Rey or Holdo or Rose (all women...I never hear any of the fanboys complain about the absolute nothing burger of a character that is Poe Dameron, who is just Han without any charisma at all).
@@Tetragrammaton22 Started off great is right. Except for Poe: there was never any point to that character at all.
@@dionysusNME Poe played off of Finn pretty well, but in terms of usefulness to the various plots, they probably should have been combined into a single character.
Vader’s lair is on mustafar in order to remind him of his defeat to Kenobi so his connection to the dark side remains strong.
Because him having a wear a lifesaving suit every day for the rest of his life isn't enough of a reminder?
@@channelbrookes there's no such thing as too much for palpatine
@@channelbrookes idk living at the actual place it happened can only enhance the effect
Every time a main character in this movie interacts with a console, they die in an explosion right after.
It's like poetry, it rhymes?
I think their Half in the Bag review was spot on - Rogue One is the greatest piece of Star Wars fanfilm ever made. And it feels exactly like a Star Wars fanfilm.
It's a very good film period.
The new Vader Vs Kenobi fight is the greatest piece of fanfilm ever made.
@@IcarusReborn No it isn't.
And force awakens doesn't?
@@jonathonrobinson6081 as a fan film it's really good. As a film it's kinda meh. I really enjoyed it when it was playing in the background and I could just watch when I wanted.
I’m glad Jay acknowledged how the movie looks. Because it’s gorgeous looking. I’m a Star Wars shill, so it didn’t bother me.
I clapped. I clapped when I saw Darth Vader.
They broke new ground!
Oh yeah
light sabers
Very cool!
I like Darf Vader
I remember leaving this film and thinking "that was boring. Who the hell were those characters...?" But then EEEEEVERYBODY talked about how much they loved it. I felt like I'd seen a different movie. Then I watched Half in the Bag about it and felt normal again.
I get people love this film but I wholeheartedly agree with RLM. The characters are just nothings. Complete shadow cut outs.
A friend who loved it couldn't believe I didn't. I asked him to name any of the characters other than Jyn and Cassian. He couldn't, and he couldn't even remember those 2 names.
I "liked" it and share the same complaints, but when I watched it with a friend of mine he just didn't care at all that the two leads were as bland as could be, and really that everyone besides the robot was as bland as could be. He just couldn't care less that the characters had no character and I guess he just enjoyed the look of the movie/3rd act? I really don't know. It's his favorite of the Disney star wars films and I can't get on board with that at all. I think it just goes to show that the 3rd act is all anyone actually cares about
Jenny Nicholson also made a great video about Rogue One that perfectly laid out it's issues if you haven't seen it yet
My favorite character was Donnie Yen's character. I don't even remember his character's name, just that it was Donnie Yen.
@@Jhordanshmu That's basically the point. They could have cut out the entire preceding 2 acts and just skip right to the action at the end and the adoring fans would have the exact same reaction to it. The flashy ending is there to make you forget about how bad and boring the rest of it was.
To all the people who justified "But all the characters die, so you shouldn't care about the characters." Clearly have never played Halo: Reach.
Star Destroyers! I’m gonna come!
-Rich Evans
Why am I always so happy to click on anything from these Milwaukee Beer kegs?
Because they bring so much joy!
I love 99.9% of all the commentary you guys put out, and completely agree with your feelings towards TLJ and Rise of Skywalker. But I find it hilarious how I completely disagree with your feelings towards Rouge One 🤣 I really enjoy it
This channel has nothing to do with RLM, so you're talking to no one.
I love how Vader just stands there watching the ship fly off - if only there were some kind of force he could have called upon to stop it getting away.
Well, it's not like he's Rey Skywalker or anything.
Funny enough, in Force Unleashed's Evil Starkiller DLC, that's exactly what he did, though more as a bargaining chip to make Luke submit to the Dark Side.
Robot Chicken does a short parody of the hallway scene that explains it in a humorous way
@@jlev1028 Or how one shmuck uses the force to bring an entire star destroyer crashing into the ground? The force in star wars is wildly inconsistent.
If only he could tear off pieces of the ship while trying to find Obiwa- oh...oh no...
One thing I did really like is how it explains that the flaw in the death star was intentionally desinged and carefully hidden as to not be discovered.
I think the worst part of the movie, is how they turned the Death Star’s exhaust port weakness from a massive oversight to a planned sabotage.
Before it was actually kind of poignant, that despite all their hubris and overconfidence, the Empire was able to overlook such a massive design flaw for their super weapon. That they were essentially brought down by their own hand.
But now it’s just because Mads Mikkelsen did it, he put it in there intentionally. If Krennic never brought him back then the Death Star would’ve been indestructible. Who needs subtext? Just explain everything in the most literal way possible because some fans complained about it.
IRK? They gave Lucas heat for "explaining too much" but in the Kennedyverse EVERYTHING is explained. Even where Han's name allegedly came from.
I always joke saying "when's the Salicious Crumb movie coming out?" but knowing Kathleen "explain everything!" Kennedy she might already planned a trilogy before Disney took control away from her.
Also the Darth Vader hallway scene, while visually amazing, makes the opening of New Hope look farcical in retrospect. Because when Vader boards Leia’s ship in New Hope, she makes a big stink about how they’re on a diplomatic mission and Vader’s boarding was completely unwarranted.
But now all I think of is Vader in his mind going, “bitch, I just tried to board this ship like an hour ago. I actually saw you run from the big space battle with the plans. Who are you trying to fool?”
It makes Leia in that scene look like an idiot.
It never was a plot hole, the exhaust port is a narrative device:
In every classical adventure the dark fortress or besieged town has a secret passage.
No matter if we look and read up the really old stuff or the later Hollywood films picking up the old themes: Arabian Nights, Conan, LOTR Helm's deep, Indiana Jones etc etc etc there is ALWAYS somebody exploiting a "secret" passage.
And even in SW the trench is well guarded, was kept secret and cod only be penetrated because Luke was aided by the force.
There is no reason at all to call this a plot holenand to turn this into being apologetic about Rougue One.
There is indeed one plothole in SW (or so it seems to me) and that's:
The rebels use these fancy torpedoes that can move in right angles and we never see those again... would have come in handy later on, no?
Cheers
@@j.m.w.5064 >Rougue One
when you can't remember where the U goes in rogue, just do both.
@@Thiollier_1 Well, my German auto correct would have come up with Der Abtrünnige Eine or something, :-P so this still went pretty well.
And you? Anything to add but complains about typos from people who cater to your own ineptitude when it comes foreign languages?
Have a great day!
"It was sad! That makes it good! I was told this is true!"
"You shouldn't care about the characters, because they all die at the end ... -
Then why am I watching them?"
Great summation.
When it is put that way, of course it sounds dumb. I don't really agree that there's zero characterization however, I feel we're given enough for this many characters to care for the purpose of a single movie. This ain't a trilogy where you'd be given more time. I almost always find myself agreeing with RLM on movies, but this will forever be the exception. I feel they are overly cynical over this one, more than it really deserves, especially considering the trash that the sequel trilogy would become.
@@xen0bia the context you're looking at it from seems less reasonable the context RLM is looking at it from though. There might not be zero characterization but there isn't enough to last a movie, A New Hope didn't give everyone a third a of a characterization with the expectation that there'd be a trilogy to flesh them out over. That kind of mindset is how you wind up with a Phantom Menace or a horribly paced netflix original. Even with something where a character death is incidental you want a strong character in mind otherwise you can just skip killing them if you aren't going to have it mean something to the audience. If your entire movie is an attempt at chronicling a doomed bunch of heroes you'd better go operatic and impactful so you aren't just wasting everyone's time. Which is what the movie winds up being. If it had kept the aesthetic and leaned into how sad everyone dying was with some kind of Slow West style pan over the losses at the end it could have been really impactful but as it stands everyone in it might as well have lived and delivered the plans then been shooed off without thanks like an office bagel boy for how much it meant in the greater scheme of things.
I mean…I knew everyone was going to die in Titanic but there was still characterization and felt something for the characters dying.
Im in the hospital after a knee surgery. I couldnt pee for hours and hours. When I watched this And the laughter after the Duracell story I burtsted like a pipe and laughted so much, the nurses came and asked what was wrong. Tnx guys 😅😂😂😂😂
Needed more intro of why Jynn joined the rebellion. It just jumps to her in a van and it’s like did I miss something? Weird decision by the director
We were probably supposed to see more but editing, reshoots, and corporate meddling really killed this movie
I remember thinking afterwards that it was my favorite Star Wars movie, yet I remember nothing but the last three minutes with Vader. Haven't seen it since.
I've watched this movie 3 times and I still don't know the names of any of the heroes.
Omg dude, this encapsulates the R1 experience perfectly!
Cinematography was apparently awesome but is irrelevant if you have zero connection to anyone in the film.
Dour Girl, Stubble Man, Alan Tudyk, Danny Whosits, Genghis Khan, Imperial Guy, Forrest Riddicker.
10:44 "I mean... I used to think SAND was coarse and got everywhere... let me tell ya about LAVA!"
thank you for making this! the other rlm rogue one highlight vids suck
I can't believe they didn't make mention of the uncanny valley Leia at the end.
Just listen to the whole track...
Something I learned from this film is that you can incapacitate people who are wearing armour by hitting them with a stick.
Well in the meanwhile they made it so that people in armour can be incapacitated by a bare hand slap in the Obi Wan show as well.. so at this point I guess everything goes. Which is what “real” fans have been wanting all along: “it space wizards and laser swords, who cares?” As if that is an excuse for poor storytelling, no consistency and just going for the dumbest dialog, action, etc.
It should have been obvious long before that given that blunt weapons existed and were used in medieval times, even against people in full plate.
Concussion is concussion. Armor helps, but it's not a perfect shield that negates all damage.
In the OT ewoks literally threw small rocks at the stormtroopers and that was enough so I dont think its new here.
When Rich said "child fantasy", every FBI agent spit
06:37 "Oh, there's a little crying child, rich."
wut
If they parked a Star Destroyer in front of the shield generator on Hoth, it would also be in front of that ion cannon that disables Star Destroyers in one shot. Didn't think that through, did you, Stoklasa!? :P
Still your super weapons in fiction need weaknesses to make the world more interesting. Star destroyers being able to just go anywhere without consequence creates more problems than it does interesting scenarios for writers.
@@DeaconPain I agree. I had always assumed that Star Destroyers were too big to enter atmosphere; certainly didn't expect them to be able to literally hover in place. I just like nit picking Mike's nitpicks. :D
@@prestonroberts2941 Clone Wars era ships were not only bringing them in atmosphere but also straight up landed them in the water.
@@StopReadingMyNameOrElse yeah, I know. It's fine; it's sci-fantasy with space wizards, FFS. There's not really many lines to draw as far as believability goes.
You guys asked some questions that were actually answered in the film
1. Jyn and Co. were taken to Saw because she name dropped him.
2. Not all the rebel leaders agreed not to fight. Raddus wanted to fight. As soon as he heard Jyn and Co. were there at Scarif he went to help. Once Mon Mothma heard Raddus went she said fuck it, let's fight, rather than leave Raddus out there to get obliterated.
3. Jyn and Cassian didn't leave the planet because they didn't think gate was open. They weren't even sure the transmission got through. If I recall Brody was the go between and he got killed.
No one cares
@@kinnikuboneman I care :)
@@loudgaydollars923 sorry to hear that
@@kinnikuboneman no one cares that you don’t care.
@@casualhamburger9607 I don't care that you broke your elbow.
My favorite Star Wars movie.
It sounds ridiculous, but that star Wars death troopers book was awesome.
I was curious. I remember seeing it on shelves at the local bookstore. It’s eye-catching cover art.
When it comes to Star Wars fans, even barely passable becomes "awesome".
"Daddy, the funny robot died 😭"
Golddigger?
Watching these clips again, it seems Rogue One really set the visual tone for the Mandalorian
The problem with this was that they effectively had three writers, one that almost understood what the bones of an action adventure is, one that totally understood combat and bad ass action and one that did not have a clue about how to make good character driven stories. If they had fixed the second act this film would be in the high 3 star territory.
(Jedi are not boring anyone then any archetype is boring if that is all there is to them.)
I absolutely love Mike's applications of the word monster
Just commenting before I watch this and I'll say I like this movie and I like the self contained little story that finishes properly
Hoth had a giant cannon no?
I always forget about the emergency ion cannon to stun one of the Destroyers and buy the transports time to escape. Surprises me every time I rewatch.
@@tadpolegaming4510 I never understood how the others didn't remove them from orbit afterwards.
@@ULTRAOutdoorsman they don't have cruise missiles in star wars, cos I guess no one thought of them yet.
@@user-zp4ge3yp2o Well they had to spend the majority of their budget on the Death Star so.. like less they were almost poor at some point during the Empire Strikes Back.
I read a bit on Wookiepedia 💻 bit how on Hoth, the Rebels used a squad of Allderaan survivors to man the cannon. They were close, very loyal & willing to run the ion cannon until the bitter end if needed.
I do want to see a comedic Star Wars movie - Tag and Bink!
I would pay double for a Tag and Bink movie with a real budget .
I'm not a big Star Wars fan, I watched episode 3 and really liked because I didn't know that Anakin was Darth Vader. I really liked Rogue One, because it looks like an 80s movie in the Star Wars universe, and that just seems right for me.
I hope that star destroyer knows which way is up…
Of all the recent Star Wars films, I actually think this is their best effort.
Yet still a bad movie.
@@andymiller6661 I know, right? It's a pretty low bar these days.
these characters have more depth than any other star wars movie..dont know what movie you guys were watching but this my fav star wars movie. pefect..have nice day
Completely agree. I also don’t get it when they say that a lot of fans where overly protective about critiques of this movie. I always felt the opposite, that a lot of fans didn’t like this movie, that they just wanted more of the prequels and Disney style stuff (I guess because The Last Jedi, or whatever the name of the last movie was, hadn’t been released yet so most people didn’t understood how shitty and unplanned the new trilogy was).
The characters were underdeveloped
@@brandonb3174 They were in one movie. You want to talk underdeveloped, look a Vader in A New Hope. His entire character was "big guy in black armor." It wasn't until the following movies that he had motivation, goals, and direct relationships with the other characters.
As for Rogue One, I thought the characters were just fine. Chirrut was particularly fascinating, but most of the main characters had distinct personalities goals, and even conflicts among themselves. For a one-shot movie, the character development was certainly sufficient.
At least when i watched Rogue One it visually felt like a Star Wars movie. When i watched The Last Jedi and Rise of Skywalker it felt like some Marvel movies.
I remember her saying a super cringe line “this is a rebellion? I rebel.” Can’t remember if it was in trailer only or made it to the movie
This movie's plot is just an exposition for A New Hope. Also, I remember that I didn't like this movie the first time I watched it. Liked it more the second time. I'd definitely rate it higher than The Last Jedi and The Rise of Skywalker.
Absolutely love Rogue One, one of my favs, love it more than Return.3rd best SW movie to me.
2:42 best rich evans laugh
Didn't Mon Mothma say "many Bothans died to get us this information" about the Death Star plans, giving you the impression that the rebel spies that were recruited to get the plans were, ya know... Bothans?
I think that was in relation to the second Death Star Plans before the Battle of Endor.
@@slickrick5799 ohhhhh so you're right
@@slickrick5799 Even so, I was hoping to see some Bothans 😢
The rebels accidentally shot up a Bothan wedding party and pushed the info thing to cover their asses.
wrong movie bro lol
I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks Jedi stuff is kind of boring…….but I kind of think the same thing about the majority of the rebel vs. empire stuff as well…..as a kid I always liked the western / underworld / bounty hunters aspect of Star Wars the best
This is my favorite of the new ones.
this was the first and only film i've fallen asleep to in a theater
The only film i fell asleep to in theaters was into the spider verse, but that’s just because I smoked a joint (legal in my state) and passed out right when the movie started, then woke up when the credit started playing.
I was intrigued by the first scene on that asteroid outpost and was curious about it hoping that a good portion of the movie would take place there. Seedy, cramped, poor, rife with crime and rebellious individuals.
Instead we got some stupid tattooine clone. No matter who is in charge they seem to be obsessed with dusty hovels since the Prequels.
@Swen
They tried to combine a typical heist plot with a character study; since a movie simply doesn't have the capacity to deal with both things at the same time , they failed.
The premise of the heist could have worked if the story had focused on the planning and execution of the heist or Jinn's own journey.
Cassian Andor simply felt like the Han Solo fill-in, but minus the swash buckler vibe or charisma in general. The other characters were bland as well.
I enjoyed this way more than these guys apparently. I actually did care about the characters. Not a hardcore Star Wars fan, so maybe I'm just dumb?
Yes
After watching Andor, I now appreciate Rogue One.
Many people I know say they love this movie and I just don't understand. We know what is going to happen from the start.
I wasn't a fan of it either, not because I knew what was going to happen, but because it just felt so bland and the characters were dull. This is the movie that introduced me to RLM and HitB though, since I was searching for a review that at least somewhat matched up with how I felt about it. The overwhelming praise this movie gets baffles me to this day.
I thought it looked great but didn’t care about a single character or what they were doing. Each & every one was just so poorly developed.
Really dumb criticism.
@@gasparguruoftime5475 also my intro to RLM for pretty much the same reasons.
@@irascibul6274 Eh. It sort of takes any suspense out of it when you already know their plan will succeed. If they had done a better job building up the characters then the suspense could have come from whether they lived or not...but they didn't build them up well, nor did it ever feel like they had a shot at living anyway.
And before people say "The OG trilogy already confirmed they died" no, that was in RotJ in regards to those that learned about the new Death Star.
My favorite part of Rouge One was Rich's laugh.
Sometime later I realised that the laugh was actually part of the film review on RLM.
Compared to Force Awakens, this movie was a masterpiece.
Still does not make it a good movie
@@phoenixmagi2 Neither a bad one.
Am I the only one who just has all the movies past the first real trilogy, just bleeding into one featureless blob of a distant memory?
I love the prequels, then watched the original trilogy years later and hated it. I prefer the whole Republic/galactic federation concept. It's way more engaging than rebels vs empire.
@@luciano9755 wtf
@@luciano9755 I don't know how it is physically possible to love the extended screensaver mixed with a soap opera that is Attack of the Clones.
If they thought fan service was the biggest problem with The Force Awakens then I now doubt their credibility.
Imagine being upset about Dark Knight Rises.
The conversation about some star wars fans not liking new things/ideas can also be applied to Star Wars Visions - when people saw the umbrella saber they lost their minds, thats where the line is drawn apparently
It is hilarious hearing them say that there's no way Star Wars would attempt comedy a year or two before Last Jedi's yo' mama jokes
Did you forget the the slaptic comedy between R2 and Yoda in ESB? Or the whole ewok battle in ROTJ? You act like Star Wars never had comedy, like WTF?
There's a difference between a movie having comedic moments and a comedy movie.
@@Tetragrammaton22 This is actually the major theme of RLM's review of The Last Jedi - that it plays out like a comedy movie, even if it wasn't intended to be written as one.
I actually wished they didn't shy away from a scarier Empire with Star Wars things. They're such a joke in everything outside the Original Trilogy, with Mandalorian mixing it up with a more desperate, shadowy Imperial Remnant.
I might be in the minority, but this is my second favorite SW movie behind Empire. It's the dirty dozen in space. That's enough for me.
"I was saying boourns"
I liked it.
Mike criticizing the creativity of the screenplay is hilarious since he loved the Force Awakens so much, at first. And you have to tune Jay out whenever they talk Star Wars cuz like Donny, hes out of his element.
Imo this is like the first two seasons of the mandalorian. In that they feel Like Star Wars, more lived in like Mike said. But plot is weak in this. Not as bad a solo but still bad writing. Also forest Whitaker’s character was silly and made no sense. Still this and mandalorian are the best we got.
I don't really get the notion that it was "nothing but fan service". The only two elements of it were Tarkin, which was more like anti-fan service, and the Vader scene, which was pretty much using him in the absolute best possible way.
What about you’ll be dead guy?
@@wephilips6651 Ah yeah, forgot about him.
C-3PO and R2-D2 showed up and I clapped