Jason Genova is on juice and look at what he has accomplished. Actor, Personal Trainer, AC Mechanic, Amateur MMA Athlete, and Top Chef.Has impressive bodybuilding genetics. Can bench press 1200 pounds, squat 2000 pounds, and dead lift a elephant with ease. All this of course before his 6 car accidents, 12 plane crashes, 7 UFO probes, 5 Titanic sinks, 13 ebola cases, and 4 Skydiving accidents with no parachutes. He also has slight SLIGHT autism, maybe 1% with ADD, OCD, NWA, ACDC, TNT, TLC, DMX and Run DMC.
Worst thing about it is that because of the “skittles” The Pisslord has taken in the past, it has fucked up his genetics and his ability to actually gain muscle lol
I like a lot of people that are clearly on the sauce, Clarence, MPMD, Juji. All definitely on the sauce and I respect them, I have no problem saying people I like are on sauce. I 100% believe Bugez is natty. Just a genetic freak mass monster with the mindset.
@@Bioshockaholic he hasn't said it and probably never will, because of his wwe contract. But just look at 2020-2021, he went from 220 to 260 in no time and he's close to 300lbs now and he didn't gained much fat.
A lot of fitness videos and TH-camrs can be really convoluted or stressful to try and listen to but all of Eric’s videos usually leave me feeling pretty good and motivated I’m glad I found this channel
I have had friends who've taken steroids for like vanity and it kind of stops you from making any progress. You take it, be big for like 2-3 months, come off, get small again. Get tired of making no gains natty, go back on, get to about as big as you were before and come off again. That way you are never really making any progress because you just get discouraged when training natural after. It also makes it hard to tell what is actual working and what isn't in terms of training because you'll get bigger and stronger doing just about any garbage routine on the sauce then be convinced you know what you're talking about. I on the other hand have been making slow, steady progress and have only looked better and better through the years.
In these troubling times, you really give me hope big ricky. Never has gear even been close to a consideration in my life, but thank you for setting me straight.
Lou Anthony to each his own bro..obviously it's gonna be great until it's not great anymore if you know what I mean. How long have you been using and how old are you if you don't mind me asking
I get why he'd need to jump on them. I don't watch wrestling, but I tuned into the recent Wrestlemania. I know its fake, but the amount of damage those guys take is absurb. From the highjumps, to the slams. The enhancements are needed to recover in that line of work
i thought he took them to help recover from his injury? but you might be right, maybe its "strongly suggested" to take them. either way you know it wasnt an easy decision for him
Great video, the question that should be asked is ' who you lifting for?' Relying on external accreditation does not seem like a healthy mindset. Self reliance is a cool character trait that can help in self respect and others could see that about you and know that this guy's got his shit together.
I bounced at bars for 10 years as a "skinny Natty" training MMA (various combat sports at different points), Almost EVERY bouncer, and almost EVERY bro we kicked out, was on roids. Almost no one knew how to actually fight. And these bouncers would lose 20, 30 pounds on a two week vacation. They would get depressed, do a bunch of blow and viagara, drink a ton, get back on cycle and have to straighten out. I can't imagine letting my emotional well-being be controlled by chemical dependency. But on other side, everyone tests the skinny bouncer 😉
Nobody on gear would lose 20-30 pounds over two weeks. Unless you're insanely hungry and on tons of gear you won't really lose much coming off of a cycle at all, ever
@@stephen8996 You definitely do lose muscle and some water retention depending on what you were taking (dbol for instance increases water retention significantly), but yeah not 20 lbs unless you were also stuck in the wild for a month and starving to death.
I was going to object your last sentence until I saw you beat me to it! Being in NYC, and used to bartend there, there are *tons* of all kinds of bars and it's interesting what you see. In Jersey you often see bars employing local wrestler kids, who would be by far the best at actually handling a physical confrontation but are (quite correctly) rarely used in NYC. Looking so impressive they don't even think about acting up in the first place is the ultimate goal; and a young-looking jacked manlet often fails to gain that effect and can even provoke idiots to test whether they can take the shorty! In NYC you try to get the biggest NFL lineman looking motherfuckers you can afford. The funniest are gay bars, which can get creative with bouncers because gay dudes do not really get seriously rowdy; I bartended at one place that had a huge-ass lesbian as head bouncer and also at NYC's most popular gay club that had a bunch of short handsome Puerto Rican kids mean mugging in wifebees chains and fitted caps!
Eric, you are my main inspiration. I have tried many times to get into lifting, but given up. Your humble nature and positive attitude motivates me to try and become a little like you one day.
I’m 27 years old 6’2 213 lbs and pretty lean , and I’ve been up to 250 lbs my goal is 230 lbs lean like the Hoss Hagen - this has motivated me to stay natural
I'm glad I was socially awkward during my teens. It made me not wanna go to the gym, which made it impossible for me to be influenced by roidos. Now I'm 24 and are training naturally and it feels good!
I've not been in the gym in about four years (I'm 25). I'm a big dude and naturally strong, never touched a drug. I work for Asda as a delivery driver and I'll pick up to 6 boxes of shopping which is maximum 100kg, awkward to lift because it's like 6ft tall or so. Most people I deliver to are shocked when I pick up three let alone six. So you can see that to normal people someone who isn't close to their natural limit is wildly impressive. There was a time delivering to students when I carried six boxes in and the two guys that came down to get it could carry it between them, so if you're a natural dude who's commited to going the gym and has the right mindset; you're impressive as heck my dude.
Best channel on TH-cam for motivation and realistic assessments of strength sport. Eric, Alex, and Gallant Bodybuilding are the best channels if you wanna reach or surpass your natural potential. Most others are just entertainment value and ideologically empty.
I agree with your points, Eric.... BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT...... ...the way I look at it, there is a time to juice, but only if juicing is what someone wants to do. If a dude or dudette wants to go down the road of juice because they want to go down the road of untested competitive bodybuilding, I'd say they should go for it, but only if they understand the risks, care involved, what they'll gain and what they can potentially lose (knee/heart health etc). As for me (I'm just one dude of many with differing opinions), I don't juice because I have to take thyroid hormone every day and I don't want to fuck it up. However if I didn't have the cancer, I would have done steroids in my mid twenties after researching the risks involved and knowing what I was getting into and also accepting the accountability prior to needing hind sight that if I fucked it up - and myself in the process - then it would all completely be on me. The difference though with me and the people in my camp versus folks who'd juice and lie about it, is that I'd be completely open and honest because all through life, everyone's going to disagree and disapprove with you about everything, so knowing that I'd actually be like "Yeah, you're right, I am taking steroids. I don't know how anyone could get this jacked without them. Is there a reason you can give me that I shouldn't take them?". But that would be me in another life. To be honest, your advice is solid and it puts into words what I wish I could tell other gals and pals. I'm happily 44, a natural lifter and I think for what I've got for the time put into working out, I'm doing pretty good :)
Andreas Persson I'll definitely go back to them but not for a while...I gotta really rebuild my lower body after I'm finally cleared....I gotta be much much smarter now since I know I'm not bulletproof
This video brings you back to reality. I am like 90kg and people talk to me as the „big guy“. So a normal person, which is the general population, will see you a a massiv guy if you keep lifting natty and not trying to stay shredded. Leave that for the steroid users and abusers.
tldw; the pride of being/staying natty is every fitness achievement you've acquired truly belongs to you through your work. general day to day people wise, your physique will respected through just being swole. strength sports wise, natties get screwed, but they can regain their strength gainz quickly unlike joocers whom have to hop on a cycle
Clutch ending even snuck in a boom But Eric whats your opinion on steroid users that are at the top of there game for example like larry wheels who is at the peek of peeks do u think it is acceptable to juice when you are at your peek level if you compete to give you a competitive edge, though these days everyone is on juice if your competing in powerlifting strongman bodybuilding sports etc because it give you n edge of the other competition Would rant more but I dont know if u will even c this
My personal opinion is sexual competition is the driving force of the natty conversation. I've heard the over shadowing argument and its nonsense because all pro athletes use PEDs at least most. So you got your natty lifter working out and in comes in somebody who is enhanced and now the natty lifter is no longer the bell of the ball. Plain and simple, I think if we were all honest with our selves we would come to the same conclusion. Ty for the video and no bs content.
that's one of the biggest problems with image nowadays, its based on lighting effects and image editing. you should make a video where you take the same pictures in bad light then in the best light. I tried to show these examples to my cousin when he was very self conscious about hes image. I did exactly that. he didn't believe it was me from the same period of life lol. ime like you but allot shorter lol, muscular but I keep some fluff for energy. he was a big built lad like me but was worried cos he didn't have a six pack showing. so wish you had your other vid out back then when you talk about real strong men being a bit fatter not lean an jacked. would of been the best way I could of described it too him. the same lad suffers depression through the fear of hes image. like I said, all of it is just good lighting..... what most people whom suffer this delusion need to not to go to the gym an get big but just do mobility work and eat right...…. that in its self will produce a healthy strong body. not weightlifting strong, but strong enough to be happy.
Your testosterone will be supressed by vast majority of steroids. What steroid users do to combat this when they go off a cycle is a PCT or post cycle therapy where they use medicine to kick start their natural production of testosterone. Your body takes weeks maybe even months to truly come off cycle and if the PCT is effective it will take weeks to start your natural production of testosterone but 99.9% of the time your body will not produce near as much test as it used to. This isn't a problem for people who can inject testosterone or synthetic variants later but for health purposes it is bad. Someone who did a cycle of steroids may essentially screw themselves out of having a higher natural testosterone levels forever which may force them to be on TRT for the rest of their lives to maintain the same level of test as they had before they went on cycle. There are a lot of myths surrounding steroids both true and untrue. It is a medicine meant to improve someone's quality of life. TRT and HRT can make a night and day difference in the lives of the elderly, and even in children who don't grow as quick as others. Steroids are everywhere, hydrocortisone is a corticosteroid you can buy at the dollar store, it's basically synthetic cortisol. Being that there's two main classes of steroids this is a very broad topic. Those two classes being anabolic steroids and corticosteroids. Anabolic steroids are synthetic variants of your sex hormones and insulin, think testosterone, estrogen, and of course all the types of insulin on the market. The phrase "anabolic" gets thrown around a lot but what it means is just building. And that's what these hormones do, they assist in building and storing things. Insulin gets a bad wrap but it's what allows protein synthesis to occur because it actually delivers amino acids to your muscle cells! Corticosteroids are synthetic cortisol, they are used to suppress immune systems, treat skin conditions, and can also enhance peoples lives!
I'm a manlet at 5ft 7in.. I bro lifted (almost nothing but bench and some machine exercises for legs, and back Lol preeety fucking bro) so my lifts were not impressive at all. Bench was 205lbs. Anyway I still made it to 180lbs. So I wonder if this time, training properly (squats, Ohp, deadlift etc) if I can reach the coveted 200lbs. I'm going for it!
I agree with what you said, BUT its silly to say people who juice didnt earn it. Does everyone think you just take shots an you get huge? Lol no, steroids help you recover faster so you can train more. You still have to put in the work an that work is all you.
I had exams and holidays for 4 weeks so I didn't go to the gym ONCE during that and I was scared of losing my strenght. Going to the gym after, I could deadlift 220kg for 5 beltless EASY, when my max is roughly 240kg for 5, and the strenght is coming back so quickly. My size stayed the same and I daresay I've gotten a bit leaner and bigger as well and training's awesome. Natty for life
But what about just doing all that stuff ? I do deadlifts / romanian deadlifts for reps / bentover rows with different grips / pendlay rows / hammer strenght rows / pulldowns / Kroc Rows all in my pull- day ( which I have twice a week at least ) and have no problem with recovery whatsoever . I hit PR s on my deadlift / trapbar deadlift every week and I dont even count the weights for my rows I just go all in . Im making all kinds of gainz with this mentality / heavy metal thing and when I start plateauing I ll definately start with this garlic thing or the bulgarian thing I ll eat raw onion for reps
I was limp dick, low energy, grumpy. Got tested and had low side test levels. Started TRT and turned my life around. So technically, not natty. No regrets in starting the test but I will say it won't make you the incredible hulk, just improve your lifestyle.
Hey Ricky I've been overhead pressing about 4 times a week for about 6 weeks now and I've seen a whole of gains in both strength and hypertrophy. However, I was wondering if increasing it to OH pressing everyday would make more gains especially since I've a hit a little plateau the past few weeks
Anthony Lombardo it would be rough on your rotator cuffs. You could switch over head pressing movements though, like neutral grip, close grip, wider grip, shoulder width etc....
I think if you’re natural you would be more proud of the body and strength you have built over 20 years rather than getting on steroids and getting the same result in a few years. You are basically the only person I watch, every one on TH-cam these days are on it or lie about it. It truly is a mindset, old time strongman we’re stronger than these roidheads and in my opinion look better than most of them.
NGL people can't use the cycling on and cycling off argument anymore, everyone's maintaining most of their roidy gains on TRT now, even crazy insane low doses guys still holding onto at least half if not more of what muscle they put on when they were really juicing hard.
I was offered loads of drugs at temple gym. I even bought some but never took them. Im glad i never did. Too many side effects, mentally and physically. You really need to do your research on taking drugs. But each to their own.
~ 6'6 & 275lbs natty guy here. Sometimes I feel skinny AF due to my height but when I'm around those short buff guys even on roids they look so small 🤣 Need to get over 300lbs for my height to look 'big' I guess 😅
I gave up on this frying pan once because it loved to stick to my meat even though i smothered that shit in olive oil practically thieving my gains You know I had to let it go!
I don't know but you can see it. I mean it is part of progress once you hit the wall of your bodies physical limits. I applaud him for his work and the motivation he gives me and my family. It is also just part of the body image industry these days anyway and has been completely normalized.
@@ctrboy2002 I always assumed since he did wrestling in high school he’s just been at it for a long time and developed a great/crazy physique. Sucks to think he would hide it 😢 Do you think Russel Orhii is not natty too?
ye its a shame, I feel like he betrayed himself, but at the same time WWE was a huge goal of his so obviously it made sense for him, but ye it was cool seeing someone push the natty limit
It's because steroids are unsustainable. You can't roid 24/7 all the time all year. You can keep lifting but once you're off, you ARE going to lose the muscle, and will be smaller until you get more steroids into your body again. Eating food is easy and very common obviously and necessary for life so it is all you if you are natural, steroids are a direct hormonal profile modulator and so you get your muscle's cellular resources depending COMPLETELY on the use of exogenous testosterone
Nick D If you take steroids you can't even go on a vacation without worrying about losing gains. Wtf are you talking about, comparing gear to food and sleep...
signs say that to mike ohearn... he never yoyoed always stayed big, mark bell as well, hell even loui simmons is healthier than 99% of non users (heart and organ wise, not talking about joints or wear and tear) your statement is fucking retarded
bugenhagen, as a long time fan, please consider being transparent about your no-longer-natty state in another talk video like this. we all know you are juiced since the injury AND THATS OK! folks trust you. you could share what youve learned from the stack and how to go about it from your perspective. it would really open up the conversation if more athletes approached the topic from a state of pride, rather than shame and you could circle back to your thesis in this video where you are clearly natty. no pressure. i imagine you are worried about how it would effect the "mindset" aspect of your personal brand. imo its just another piece of the mindset, rather than a crutch for it. please give it some thought!
as if he would admit that to get the approval of a couple internet dorks, meanwhile 99% of normies would lose massive respect, thats why no one tells on themselves unless they are in a hyper niche like powerlifting or bodybuilding where normie presence is nonexistant
315 is more than 90% of people who set foot in a gym will ever achieve. I know you posted ages ago, but don't give up my friend. It took me 18 months to go from 3pl8 to 4pl8, then another 3 years to get to 5pl8. Everyone is different, just compare yourself to yesterday's version of you.
Yeah true. 3 plates is strong. And u should be proud of it. Thats the real "reality" and not the Instagram world, where everyone u see deadlifts above 600 pounds.
Jason Genova is on juice and look at what he has accomplished. Actor, Personal Trainer, AC Mechanic, Amateur MMA Athlete, and Top Chef.Has impressive bodybuilding genetics. Can bench press 1200 pounds, squat 2000 pounds, and dead lift a elephant with ease. All this of course before his 6 car accidents, 12 plane crashes, 7 UFO probes, 5 Titanic sinks, 13 ebola cases, and 4 Skydiving accidents with no parachutes. He also has slight SLIGHT autism, maybe 1% with ADD, OCD, NWA, ACDC, TNT, TLC, DMX and Run DMC.
Andy Evans Please bro not in the a.m...Not my problem bro. Poor popper. Not retarded only slight SLIGHT autism cant even tell maybe 1% max noticeable.
Worst thing about it is that because of the “skittles” The Pisslord has taken in the past, it has fucked up his genetics and his ability to actually gain muscle lol
Andy Evans True. Can’t wait for polumboism/Lennyism era Genova
holy shit bro 😂😂😂
Freaky sick genetics. Sick craig tittus look with tom plaz wheels and sickening striations.
Man the difference in voice (&phallus - girth obsession in vocabulary) is crazy compared to modern boogs, permanently altered brain chemistry
Man got in character and stayed in character.
Probably the gear
Anyone else miss 2018 natty Eric?
ahh if only this 2019 natty Sticky RIcky could see the 2024 Mutant Ricky......
The voice change is crazy 💀
He's like a whole different man now.
Look up PirateSoftware- "Voice Evolution" it's nuts
he used to sound like pencilneck 😂
@@sengunvolkanI guess you need PEDs to not be a pencil neck.
he hit a 2nd puberty xD
I'm so glad that I believe you when you say you're natural. You're the natty example for lifters.
layney boy You're bad at reading is all.
I like a lot of people that are clearly on the sauce, Clarence, MPMD, Juji. All definitely on the sauce and I respect them, I have no problem saying people I like are on sauce. I 100% believe Bugez is natty. Just a genetic freak mass monster with the mindset.
@@jagerfromgsg945 he is not natty anymore
@@olegaarden2294 dont break my heart
@@bigmanolly2889 he realy isnt, its very obvious
Geeez, his voice has gotten so much deeper in 4 years
His face gotten bigger too. The Roids changed him alot
@@aureliusthegunsmith7203 he does roids? Has he said that?
@@Bioshockaholic he hasn't said it and probably never will, because of his wwe contract.
But just look at 2020-2021, he went from 220 to 260 in no time and he's close to 300lbs now and he didn't gained much fat.
@@aureliusthegunsmith7203 if you watched his superhero aesthetic program video, I think this is where Eric peaked tbh
He was so much more handsome here
A lot of fitness videos and TH-camrs can be really convoluted or stressful to try and listen to but all of Eric’s videos usually leave me feeling pretty good and motivated I’m glad I found this channel
Rick De La Stick
Thicc
When Eric gets serious, you know is something really special...
I have had friends who've taken steroids for like vanity and it kind of stops you from making any progress. You take it, be big for like 2-3 months, come off, get small again. Get tired of making no gains natty, go back on, get to about as big as you were before and come off again. That way you are never really making any progress because you just get discouraged when training natural after. It also makes it hard to tell what is actual working and what isn't in terms of training because you'll get bigger and stronger doing just about any garbage routine on the sauce then be convinced you know what you're talking about.
I on the other hand have been making slow, steady progress and have only looked better and better through the years.
In these troubling times, you really give me hope big ricky. Never has gear even been close to a consideration in my life, but thank you for setting me straight.
Hey Rick is there "Any pride in staying natty?"
i started juicing and it has changed my life. not sure why everyone opposed to it. Jack LaLanne did it for nearly his whole life and he lived to 96.
Lou Anthony did it give u calves like omar?
Lou Anthony to each his own bro..obviously it's gonna be great until it's not great anymore if you know what I mean. How long have you been using and how old are you if you don't mind me asking
I don't. I take science over social stigma. I don't juice, either, and never have...in case you were wondering
Eric Bugenhagen i think that mr lou anthony was referring to actual juice, that was a good piece of trolling lmao
Greetings lou. God bless u from Canada
I get why he'd need to jump on them. I don't watch wrestling, but I tuned into the recent Wrestlemania. I know its fake, but the amount of damage those guys take is absurb. From the highjumps, to the slams. The enhancements are needed to recover in that line of work
i thought he took them to help recover from his injury? but you might be right, maybe its "strongly suggested" to take them. either way you know it wasnt an easy decision for him
didnt he quit wrestling like long time ago
and im sure there are natty wrestlers who take beating of their life
Asking Eric "Do you even lift" is like asking Yngwie Malmsteen if he can shred
Great video, the question that should be asked is ' who you lifting for?' Relying on external accreditation does not seem like a healthy mindset. Self reliance is a cool character trait that can help in self respect and others could see that about you and know that this guy's got his shit together.
I bounced at bars for 10 years as a "skinny Natty" training MMA (various combat sports at different points),
Almost EVERY bouncer, and almost EVERY bro we kicked out, was on roids. Almost no one knew how to actually fight.
And these bouncers would lose 20, 30 pounds on a two week vacation. They would get depressed, do a bunch of blow and viagara, drink a ton, get back on cycle and have to straighten out. I can't imagine letting my emotional well-being be controlled by chemical dependency.
But on other side, everyone tests the skinny bouncer 😉
Nobody on gear would lose 20-30 pounds over two weeks. Unless you're insanely hungry and on tons of gear you won't really lose much coming off of a cycle at all, ever
@@stephen8996 You definitely do lose muscle and some water retention depending on what you were taking (dbol for instance increases water retention significantly), but yeah not 20 lbs unless you were also stuck in the wild for a month and starving to death.
I was going to object your last sentence until I saw you beat me to it!
Being in NYC, and used to bartend there, there are *tons* of all kinds of bars and it's interesting what you see. In Jersey you often see bars employing local wrestler kids, who would be by far the best at actually handling a physical confrontation but are (quite correctly) rarely used in NYC. Looking so impressive they don't even think about acting up in the first place is the ultimate goal; and a young-looking jacked manlet often fails to gain that effect and can even provoke idiots to test whether they can take the shorty! In NYC you try to get the biggest NFL lineman looking motherfuckers you can afford. The funniest are gay bars, which can get creative with bouncers because gay dudes do not really get seriously rowdy; I bartended at one place that had a huge-ass lesbian as head bouncer and also at NYC's most popular gay club that had a bunch of short handsome Puerto Rican kids mean mugging in wifebees chains and fitted caps!
Eric, you are my main inspiration. I have tried many times to get into lifting, but given up. Your humble nature and positive attitude motivates me to try and become a little like you one day.
I've noticed that most of those who aren't naturals their voices change over the years going fully deep and bass heavy for some reason.
I’m pretty sure is because of testosterone levels constantly staying high which causes the body to continue developing. Voice, organs, bones, etc
This is the best video on natural lifting compared to enhanced ever! So much truth in this!
I just realised I've never heard the bugez listening to Rammstein
Michael McElhinney the bugez headbaning to mein hertz brent while pulling up a huge deadlift is somthing the world really needs to see
He listened to "Du hast" in a video just a few weeks back!
Nicolas shit my bad man I must've missed it. Now I feel dumb
Ok it's been longer than I thought, the video is "440 lbs Fat gripz trap bar deadlift" from May 9th, 2018.
He has a whole video of him yelling DU HAST
"in the real world, just get jacked and stacked, dude"
best advice ive ever received
Yes, there is. However, I think the only shame is in taking roids if you lie to people that you're natural.
I love the authenticity of this video.
I’m 27 years old
6’2 213 lbs and pretty lean , and I’ve been up to 250 lbs my goal is 230 lbs lean like the Hoss Hagen - this has motivated me to stay natural
He looks like a really buff freddie mercury
You still natty? You've gained like 50 pounds since this video.
I'm glad I was socially awkward during my teens. It made me not wanna go to the gym, which made it impossible for me to be influenced by roidos. Now I'm 24 and are training naturally and it feels good!
Now ur smol
I've not been in the gym in about four years (I'm 25). I'm a big dude and naturally strong, never touched a drug. I work for Asda as a delivery driver and I'll pick up to 6 boxes of shopping which is maximum 100kg, awkward to lift because it's like 6ft tall or so. Most people I deliver to are shocked when I pick up three let alone six. So you can see that to normal people someone who isn't close to their natural limit is wildly impressive. There was a time delivering to students when I carried six boxes in and the two guys that came down to get it could carry it between them, so if you're a natural dude who's commited to going the gym and has the right mindset; you're impressive as heck my dude.
So Ricky is there any Pride?????
Best channel on TH-cam for motivation and realistic assessments of strength sport. Eric, Alex, and Gallant Bodybuilding are the best channels if you wanna reach or surpass your natural potential. Most others are just entertainment value and ideologically empty.
This hurts me
well well well
your weight estimates are actually quite accurate. you guessed my exact weight and height LOL
I agree with your points, Eric....
BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT......
...the way I look at it, there is a time to juice, but only if juicing is what someone wants to do. If a dude or dudette wants to go down the road of juice because they want to go down the road of untested competitive bodybuilding, I'd say they should go for it, but only if they understand the risks, care involved, what they'll gain and what they can potentially lose (knee/heart health etc).
As for me (I'm just one dude of many with differing opinions), I don't juice because I have to take thyroid hormone every day and I don't want to fuck it up. However if I didn't have the cancer, I would have done steroids in my mid twenties after researching the risks involved and knowing what I was getting into and also accepting the accountability prior to needing hind sight that if I fucked it up - and myself in the process - then it would all completely be on me.
The difference though with me and the people in my camp versus folks who'd juice and lie about it, is that I'd be completely open and honest because all through life, everyone's going to disagree and disapprove with you about everything, so knowing that I'd actually be like "Yeah, you're right, I am taking steroids. I don't know how anyone could get this jacked without them. Is there a reason you can give me that I shouldn't take them?".
But that would be me in another life. To be honest, your advice is solid and it puts into words what I wish I could tell other gals and pals. I'm happily 44, a natural lifter and I think for what I've got for the time put into working out, I'm doing pretty good :)
Eric are we going to see you doing more Jefferson-stance lifts in the future, or have you moved on?
Andreas Persson I'll definitely go back to them but not for a while...I gotta really rebuild my lower body after I'm finally cleared....I gotta be much much smarter now since I know I'm not bulletproof
This video brings you back to reality. I am like 90kg and people talk to me as the „big guy“. So a normal person, which is the general population, will see you a a massiv guy if you keep lifting natty and not trying to stay shredded. Leave that for the steroid users and abusers.
content so simple but so good, great vid
Mind blown thanx boogz!
tldw; the pride of being/staying natty is every fitness achievement you've acquired truly belongs to you through your work. general day to day people wise, your physique will respected through just being swole. strength sports wise, natties get screwed, but they can regain their strength gainz quickly unlike joocers whom have to hop on a cycle
You are seriously the man
Clutch ending even snuck in a boom
But Eric whats your opinion on steroid users that are at the top of there game for example like larry wheels who is at the peek of peeks do u think it is acceptable to juice when you are at your peek level if you compete to give you a competitive edge, though these days everyone is on juice if your competing in powerlifting strongman bodybuilding sports etc because it give you n edge of the other competition
Would rant more but I dont know if u will even c this
My personal opinion is sexual competition is the driving force of the natty conversation. I've heard the over shadowing argument and its nonsense because all pro athletes use PEDs at least most. So you got your natty lifter working out and in comes in somebody who is enhanced and now the natty lifter is no longer the bell of the ball. Plain and simple, I think if we were all honest with our selves we would come to the same conclusion. Ty for the video and no bs content.
Guy has an angry ass look in his eyes when he says the kids name 😂😂
that's one of the biggest problems with image nowadays, its based on lighting effects and image editing. you should make a video where you take the same pictures in bad light then in the best light. I tried to show these examples to my cousin when he was very self conscious about hes image. I did exactly that. he didn't believe it was me from the same period of life lol. ime like you but allot shorter lol, muscular but I keep some fluff for energy. he was a big built lad like me but was worried cos he didn't have a six pack showing. so wish you had your other vid out back then when you talk about real strong men being a bit fatter not lean an jacked. would of been the best way I could of described it too him. the same lad suffers depression through the fear of hes image. like I said, all of it is just good lighting..... what most people whom suffer this delusion need to not to go to the gym an get big but just do mobility work and eat right...…. that in its self will produce a healthy strong body. not weightlifting strong, but strong enough to be happy.
It is funny that most natty channels are very prideful but in the next two years they will definitely jump on something.
Some people cant handle the pressure
Freak shows lmao. That is so true. With turtle tummies. Mutant turtle shows.
Our real Daddy Rick dela surrogate father always speaks the realist real! For real.
Your testosterone will be supressed by vast majority of steroids. What steroid users do to combat this when they go off a cycle is a PCT or post cycle therapy where they use medicine to kick start their natural production of testosterone. Your body takes weeks maybe even months to truly come off cycle and if the PCT is effective it will take weeks to start your natural production of testosterone but 99.9% of the time your body will not produce near as much test as it used to. This isn't a problem for people who can inject testosterone or synthetic variants later but for health purposes it is bad. Someone who did a cycle of steroids may essentially screw themselves out of having a higher natural testosterone levels forever which may force them to be on TRT for the rest of their lives to maintain the same level of test as they had before they went on cycle.
There are a lot of myths surrounding steroids both true and untrue. It is a medicine meant to improve someone's quality of life. TRT and HRT can make a night and day difference in the lives of the elderly, and even in children who don't grow as quick as others. Steroids are everywhere, hydrocortisone is a corticosteroid you can buy at the dollar store, it's basically synthetic cortisol. Being that there's two main classes of steroids this is a very broad topic. Those two classes being anabolic steroids and corticosteroids. Anabolic steroids are synthetic variants of your sex hormones and insulin, think testosterone, estrogen, and of course all the types of insulin on the market. The phrase "anabolic" gets thrown around a lot but what it means is just building. And that's what these hormones do, they assist in building and storing things. Insulin gets a bad wrap but it's what allows protein synthesis to occur because it actually delivers amino acids to your muscle cells!
Corticosteroids are synthetic cortisol, they are used to suppress immune systems, treat skin conditions, and can also enhance peoples lives!
From 15-16 (10 months) I’ve gone from 120 pounds to 140 pounds with the same bf% with shit programming being natural ain’t that bad
I'm a manlet at 5ft 7in.. I bro lifted (almost nothing but bench and some machine exercises for legs, and back Lol preeety fucking bro) so my lifts were not impressive at all. Bench was 205lbs. Anyway I still made it to 180lbs. So I wonder if this time, training properly (squats, Ohp, deadlift etc) if I can reach the coveted 200lbs. I'm going for it!
Bugez is more than just a strong jacked guy.
I agree with what you said, BUT its silly to say people who juice didnt earn it. Does everyone think you just take shots an you get huge? Lol no, steroids help you recover faster so you can train more. You still have to put in the work an that work is all you.
I had exams and holidays for 4 weeks so I didn't go to the gym ONCE during that and I was scared of losing my strenght. Going to the gym after, I could deadlift 220kg for 5 beltless EASY, when my max is roughly 240kg for 5, and the strenght is coming back so quickly. My size stayed the same and I daresay I've gotten a bit leaner and bigger as well and training's awesome. Natty for life
Update, still natty
still natty
Intermittent fasting raises HGH by up to 2000% and whole food veganism (especially raw) increases testosterone.
Do with that what you will.
Thank you Eric
Idk if there's pride but there's definitely health issues to be considered if you don't stay natty.
But what about just doing all that stuff ? I do deadlifts / romanian deadlifts for reps / bentover rows with different grips / pendlay rows / hammer strenght rows / pulldowns / Kroc Rows all in my pull- day ( which I have twice a week at least ) and have no problem with recovery whatsoever .
I hit PR s on my deadlift / trapbar deadlift every week and I dont even count the weights for my rows I just go all in .
Im making all kinds of gainz with this mentality / heavy metal thing and when I start plateauing I ll definately start with this garlic thing or the bulgarian thing
I ll eat raw onion for reps
sorry for bulgarian english
stay natty, bros
I was limp dick, low energy, grumpy. Got tested and had low side test levels. Started TRT and turned my life around. So technically, not natty. No regrets in starting the test but I will say it won't make you the incredible hulk, just improve your lifestyle.
this is the most normal video I've seen from you XD
How much steroid use did you see competing in college wrestling? I always assume most of those guys are on something.
@RARAYAYA RAA they're extremely common with the top guys. You're a nobody on TH-cam who didn't make it or get close
You would lose that thicc lucious hair and mustache if you were “lost in the sauce”. That’s something to be proud of right there
Hey Ricky I've been overhead pressing about 4 times a week for about 6 weeks now and I've seen a whole of gains in both strength and hypertrophy. However, I was wondering if increasing it to OH pressing everyday would make more gains especially since I've a hit a little plateau the past few weeks
What are you overhead pressing currently?
Anthony Lombardo it would be rough on your rotator cuffs. You could switch over head pressing movements though, like neutral grip, close grip, wider grip, shoulder width etc....
I think if you’re natural you would be more proud of the body and strength you have built over 20 years rather than getting on steroids and getting the same result in a few years. You are basically the only person I watch, every one on TH-cam these days are on it or lie about it. It truly is a mindset, old time strongman we’re stronger than these roidheads and in my opinion look better than most of them.
You won't get the same results as a natural you'll be 5x above naturals but it's not forever
Flexvheele James Not true. Genetics plays a far greater role than steroids.
stop being beta, push yourself and don’t cry when you fail pr. if you wanna hop on go ahead, if not then strive to be an elite either way
When you're ripped you look much better on camera. That's why 160punders can look great
The worst thing is, not taking steroids, but taking steroids and competing in a drug free federation... Literally nothing more unfair than that
NGL people can't use the cycling on and cycling off argument anymore, everyone's maintaining most of their roidy gains on TRT now, even crazy insane low doses guys still holding onto at least half if not more of what muscle they put on when they were really juicing hard.
I was offered loads of drugs at temple gym. I even bought some but never took them. Im glad i never did. Too many side effects, mentally and physically. You really need to do your research on taking drugs. But each to their own.
So u bought them but didn't use them...makes sense.
I'm calling the DEA on you.
Steven Davis damn you were at the great temple gym of THE Dorian yates
Maestro yea. Life lessons. I made a choice.
offered drugs lmao. probably piss water bro
~ 6'6 & 275lbs natty guy here. Sometimes I feel skinny AF due to my height but when I'm around those short buff guys even on roids they look so small 🤣
Need to get over 300lbs for my height to look 'big' I guess 😅
Thanks
Absolutely no need to take steroids.
New title idea
The uush with the bugez
How lean are you talking when giving these 'natty limit' weight examples?
Eric,do you think it's possible to front squat 500 @170lbs natty?
Nahuel Ise no lol
Incel Destiny time to get to work to prove that is possible
You can front squat 500 as natural totally, man. You probably need to up your bodyweight bro.
Nahuel Ise u can front squat it, but at 170 its very very unlikely, no point in bullshitting u
I know a guy that can do within the 300’s at 135. If he were to slap on another 35 to himself he could probably do it
How can no one be emotionally attached to the BUGEZ?
Everyone is. The bugenhog is for everyone!
Implying not everyone is in the first place
It’s been years and I’m still lost in his baby blues.
@Austin holup
Score one for the good guys.
1/32
t. Terry Davis
He ain't natty anymore man.
“That’s my fifteen minutes, boom”
I’m using that one in the bedroom
lmfaoo
more like "that's my fifteen seconds, boom"
15 mins? That's already cardio bro..Keep it to 15 reps
15 minutes would be a pr for me
Gotta get your partials and deficits in too
I gave up a chick cause she loved the drink and liked to call me at 1:47 a.m. waking me out of my gains... You know she had to go!
Lawrence Malcheff Force Production Powerlifting Whatever it takes, r8 babe?
I gave up on this frying pan once because it loved to stick to my meat even though i smothered that shit in olive oil practically thieving my gains You know I had to let it go!
Chad status upheld.
So you like guys. ok.
Mr. Low T^
When's the natty pride parade this year?
Eric "I'm 235 lbs" Bugenhagen. The KING.
boogz has been real quiet on this topic lately
too focused on whoring his wife for internet points
@@colt-_-jonson1743damn…
@@colt-_-jonson1743 that has to be a steroid effect. Seen so many guys hop on steroids & suddenly theyre into all this weird oversexualized shit
@@colt-_-jonson1743 What did he do?
@@saiko-no-kami wish i knew because i don't remember what i wrote here (TH-cam removed my comment)
NoW MAKEE a followup video lol
Kind of crazy to see how he predicted his future in a way, in regards to getting so big then having to de-size and becoming depressed over it.
This didn't age well.
How?
@@ProteinSelect I don't see a problem with it personally but he ain't Natty anymore.
@@ctrboy2002 damn. Is there a video of him admitting?
I don't know but you can see it. I mean it is part of progress once you hit the wall of your bodies physical limits. I applaud him for his work and the motivation he gives me and my family.
It is also just part of the body image industry these days anyway and has been completely normalized.
@@ctrboy2002 I always assumed since he did wrestling in high school he’s just been at it for a long time and developed a great/crazy physique. Sucks to think he would hide it 😢 Do you think Russel Orhii is not natty too?
Before he went horse mode, he made much more sense. But he wasn't half as funny tbh.
ye its a shame, I feel like he betrayed himself, but at the same time WWE was a huge goal of his so obviously it made sense for him, but ye it was cool seeing someone push the natty limit
Natty = complete freedom, you are yourself, and don't depend on others... ! (^_-)
a chemist won't have to depend on others...
It's because steroids are unsustainable. You can't roid 24/7 all the time all year. You can keep lifting but once you're off, you ARE going to lose the muscle, and will be smaller until you get more steroids into your body again. Eating food is easy and very common obviously and necessary for life so it is all you if you are natural, steroids are a direct hormonal profile modulator and so you get your muscle's cellular resources depending COMPLETELY on the use of exogenous testosterone
Nick D If you take steroids you can't even go on a vacation without worrying about losing gains. Wtf are you talking about, comparing gear to food and sleep...
Nick D I think you're trying to justify your shortcomings, you don't make any sense.
signs say that to mike ohearn... he never yoyoed always stayed big, mark bell as well, hell even loui simmons is healthier than 99% of non users (heart and organ wise, not talking about joints or wear and tear) your statement is fucking retarded
This is awkward now 😂
Ricky Ticky no Sticky 🙅🏻♂️💉💉💉
bugenhagen, as a long time fan, please consider being transparent about your no-longer-natty state in another talk video like this. we all know you are juiced since the injury AND THATS OK!
folks trust you. you could share what youve learned from the stack and how to go about it from your perspective. it would really open up the conversation if more athletes approached the topic from a state of pride, rather than shame and you could circle back to your thesis in this video where you are clearly natty. no pressure. i imagine you are worried about how it would effect the "mindset" aspect of your personal brand. imo its just another piece of the mindset, rather than a crutch for it.
please give it some thought!
he can't since he's in WWE
as if he would admit that to get the approval of a couple internet dorks, meanwhile 99% of normies would lose massive respect, thats why no one tells on themselves unless they are in a hyper niche like powerlifting or bodybuilding where normie presence is nonexistant
He juiced before it too
Why do you care if he tells or not? Leave the guy alone
zero proof he is on peds. you are just a skinny kid that does not believe in training
2024 Rick blended this guy and spread him on his Nature valley granola bars.
we miss this era of the stick
It’s concerning that people are more worried about the optics of using steroids than the fact that they’re literally going to die earlier lol.
Rick De La Thicc will never stick in any needles to get big
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Pin Me, Don't Pin Me (little roid joke for ya)
me who is stoked I just hit a 3 plate deadlift.
Eric: general population is gunna respect a 400lb deadlift because there idiots
315 is more than 90% of people who set foot in a gym will ever achieve. I know you posted ages ago, but don't give up my friend. It took me 18 months to go from 3pl8 to 4pl8, then another 3 years to get to 5pl8. Everyone is different, just compare yourself to yesterday's version of you.
@@Mothbo bahahah thanks for bringing this comment back up, I bench more than 315 now
Josh Allan thats so inspirational, i just hit 315 as well
Yeah true. 3 plates is strong. And u should be proud of it. Thats the real "reality" and not the Instagram world, where everyone u see deadlifts above 600 pounds.
@@joshallan2632 the mindset never fails
Can confirm, everyone in my commercial gym watches me pull a 405 lb deadlift lmaoooo
Comeonmate7 same man lol. People think im a beast when im not at all lol.
Try doing Z-Presses in the commercial gym. This is where it gets funny :D
Especially when I weigh 170 and all the dudes that got 70 pounds on me can't out lift me.
Pulled 405x5 when I was 20 years old, some PT asked me if I could put down the weights more gently @_@
@@missandeisass4671 you are a beast...youre just brainwashed to think it aint good enough..it is..but who dosent wanna see their full potential
13:04 Hell, it's rare to see a proper 405 pull in most gyms