Yeah i suppose it does. It's easy to ask why would you bother buying the roland boutiques when you can just buy this? However after thinking about it, the boutiques do still have their place i believe. If you are a real purist and want that traditional feel you can buy the boutiques. Also i think they would be a lot of fun to play. They are also kind of more for people with enough disposable income to afford them as they are limited to that one particular drum set basically.
@@shottskies I agree with your opinion I saved quite a lot buying the se-02 and sh-01a second hand and the d-05! I really think your comment about the traditional feel of the boutique’s is a fine remark! I will say though I still have my tr8s and I doubt I will ever sell!
The coolest feature of this unit is that you can use it as a MIDI sequencer, using the 16 steps to trigger external instruments instead of using the passe internal supersaws, cheesy vocal hits, and rave sounds that were overused in the early 2000's.
Parameter Locks for all the Controls you can add to CTRL would've been great - and dedicated Mute Buttons as well! Apart from this, that new TR8s looks really promising and mature compared to the stuff before. Well done.
What about using backing tracks .... Is it possible to import a backing track (whole song) and for each song different drum sounds and sequences ... So, a combination drum computer/ backing track player ....
can you motion-record the clockspeed? if yes, also per step? To create a slowdown and nearly stop and shot it back up like a rubberband to sync back again into the songspeed?
Can anybody tell me what the Genre/Style of Music at 6:45min could be called? Especially the part from 7:25min - 7:37min.... Sounds a bit like a modern electronic Reggae/Dancehall/Hip Hop style... at least bpm wise ;)
Great stuff / overview. I know it can do some forms of param-locking. Could you guys put together an interesting demo on the dynamic ideas one might explore with that? Much thanks!
Can you delete the factory vocal samples Roland unfortunately put in there, instating of putting in the much coveted CR-78 sounds? static.roland.com/assets/media/pdf/TR-8S_PresetToneList_eng01_W.pdf
Brandon Ryan disappointing an alternating fill system like the actual patterns would make it more dynamic like a real drummer , still looks good but think that it would have been better with that type of feature
Yeah I would very much like to have one of these ans use a midi foot controller to change between at least 2 main patterns and a few fills on the fly like the Beatbuddy pedal srum machine as many of us wanna be able to play our real Synths as well when jamming but still be able to mix up the drums some with our feet while doing that
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The menu diving looks bad. I can see holding two buttons down while turning a dial to access a menu and that just reminds be of the UI of the microkorg or jdxi.
Just bought on e of these and its great for making other styles of music than just techno and dance which I can't stand. I might have to do a video on the stuff I do with it. More heavy kinda Trap stuff with Heavy Metal influence. Oh yeah.
what i am wondering and its still not clear for me (after watching 3 different tr-8s demos). Can i alter the speed of a sample in real time? on the website it says something about sample-speed and in this video you mentioned a rate parameter that also can reverse the sample.
spenza kwsx, altering the pitch of the sample would speed it up or down however, the pitch of the sample would be affected. Speeding up the sample without affecting the pitch would be timestretching which I don't think it does but I could be wrong.
knuftobor such a shame. of all the new drummachines i checked not a single one is capable of timestretching. its 2018 and samplemanglinag is still not here really :/
spenza kwsx, Pioneer Taraiz SP-16 is a sampling drum machine that can time stretch but its very expensive, at least $1000.00. Might as well use Maschine. There are so many features that should be added to hardware drum machines like what Serato sample can do with the ability to save your chopped samples seperately which Serato can't do. And chop samples like recycle which does a great job of fading out the sample so you don't have pops at the end. Or auto region like Sound Forge. I could go on and on...
knuftobor true.. well, i have maschine. but the inbuild sampler is very basic which is weird because battery and kontakt have it. kontakt has also different pitch algorythms. the only way i get live timestretching (i mean not loopbased, i want to play the sample via sequencer or keyboard) is when i add the talsampler to machine. i spent the last couple of days trying to find a vst-sampler that loops (with variable start and end-points) and stretches samples as well. nothing found yet...
They did! haha they really must read the youtube comments everything the haters talked about they added. I'm feeling the sampling option alone that makes this work looking at for a purchase.
Ameretsu Shidori, They said it plays samples. There was morning mentioned about sampling. The MPC & ASR--10 are samplers. We have yet to see how easy it is to import samples into it.
Shouldn't be that hard to import samples. They just reworked the 404 to the 404S. I'm guessing TR-8S is going to use a similar sample load setup with the SD card. which is the usual load from SD and assign. I'm curious if this is going to have software with it like the 404 where you can pad assign. Seems like they encourage you to use more than just drum sounds on this. That's what seems like it's going to be crazy.
@galinettto netto sam·plingˈsamp(ə)liNG/nounnoun: sampling; plural noun: samplings1. the taking of a sample or samples."routine river sampling is carried out according to a schedule"Statisticsa sample.2. the technique of digitally encoding music or sound and reusing it as part of a composition or recording. The TR-8S has the "option" of working with "samplings". The "option" to load, tweak, make beats/songs and work with custom "sampling" over stock sounds is what's known as a "sampling option." "Sampling" & "Sampler" two very different terms so write that down in your note book. A "Sampler" is a device that can record samples. "Sampling" on the other hand is a term that can be applied to the process of recording a sample itself or referred to as the post product of a sample (aka a Sampling). Yes, you can record multiple samples from a song and take those "samplings" load them into the TR-8S and make new music with it. Now I know all of you know it all's that watch a 10-15 minute video are now industry experts on sampling. So I take that into account. I'm like galinettto netto must be some kind of music master since everyone is a "dumbass" compared to him let me check out his channel. I go and look and there's a video using "entry level" gear I listen to the song... "it's shit of course"... Sound like the time a spoon got caught in my garbage disposal... and then I see the volume of dislikes and the 1 dislike on his video and I'm like... hmmm this guy should spend less time making dumbass comments on youtube and more time learning how to make actual music. Just some advice for you.
exactly..... this one gives much needed visual feedback. i purchased my tr-8 when it first came out, and to this day it has barely been touched, because i didn't know what the hell was going on. that being said, i ordered my tr-8s a few hours ago.
I do know how to use mine, but i get what youre saying the workflow is definitely why i dont use it as much as i would have liked. it does look like they fixed the main issues in the new one at least, probably still gonna keep the original tr-8 though
Maj Jam i had the tr8. Now have this. Tr8 is much easier to quickly get ideas down. This requires much more menu diving and set up to get what you want out of it. Bith are anazing units but tr8s has newer acb and importing samples that sold it for me.
Chris Smith Hi how do you change the rythm styles on the tr8 like he is doing here with the value button like style 1,2,34,5 and so on. I just got tr8 pre owned and cant seem to get the hang of that. thanks
the fill - same as the last one and most of them - out of time. Listen to this, then stick the prodigy on from 20 yrs ago - itll feel like we havent moved an inch
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Really cool device. But it's not knocking me out of my socks like a real TR-909 bass drum punch... ...maybe it's about how it was recorded after all...
Michael Robles it’s not trying to be Maschine. That’s completely different. The hardware vs software debate has been going for many years and you’re claiming to have just solved it.
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nice looking box of lights, however all these thing sound the same! you really need a good musician/producer to knock an interesting tune out. All we get are sequences that sound like phil collins being kicked down a staircase
Actually Phil Collins was a great drummer doing great music! Just listen to Brand X and early Genesis , Phil Collins was a great drummer rhythmic genius......what's your silly point?! That this drum/sequencer doesn't do justice to great percussionist like Phil Collins? Or you feel this box isn't a great drum sequencer???? Drum machines aren't trying to be great drummers like Phil Collins....that is up to the programmer who understands great percussive rhythms and can lay them down on a drum machine then evolve them with great systems that allows that evolution of drum programming?. I feel this systems allows that in an easy intuitive way????? Just me. I am selling my Digitakt to get this fluid and intuitive machine. But i am just an electronic composer who doesn't have access to calling up Phil Collins or any other drummer to come to my studio and back me up when ever I have a creative burp during my days and nights? Burp! And in a very nice Mr. Rogers kind of way which was way before my time.....fuck you! You snobbish prick. So many of us music creators have no access to great studio musicians or drummers, tech have given so many people to have great creative tools for creative expression! What is wrong with that???? We are in the Golden age of music creativity for the average person out there who never had this expression available before.
The thing about comments is they can be so musically crippling to the point were you only seek the best equipment that there is and still make mediocre tracks , this drum machine is as creative and limited as the person using it . My advice buy it ,learn it, like you would a guitar and make it sound as musical as physically possible. It’s a great machine , just learn to use it .
The samples in between of the drum sounds in this vid are horrific and cheesy: they do not do the machine justice. The big plus of the ability of "The S" to play samples is that you can emulate famous romplers like the Linndrum. But this time around with the fantastic famed "808-like" interface with the 16 colored buttons for the 16 (or more) steps per beat. The "evolution" is *NOT* that you can you use it like one those awful Grooveboxes of yesteryear, like they do in this vid.
meneerjansen00 Nah it’s both. You can upload samples of anything and make anything you want on this. Upload a saw wave sample and use the filter and effects to add real synthesis to tracks. OR upload LinnDrum samples. Best of both worlds.
A modelled 707 and 727 . These were sample based in the first place ...c'mon roland ...don't bull shit . ANOther funny marketing strategy ..for their ' jv orchestral vst plugin' ..roland say's that they modeled the original srx expansion board ... from their site Quote Roland has modeled every aspect of these beloved cards down to the circuit and in software Digital Circuit Behavior (DCB) faithfully captures every detail of the original SRX based expansion unquote .WTF ..the srx expansiono board had samples in ROM ...so what did they actually model , the samples ??? A marketing joke realy .; Yes the 606/808/909 these were orignal analog and are thus modelled ..that part is true
Ward de jager Allow me to offer some education on the subject. The machines you speak of had all kinds of primitive digital tech that added up to the way they sound. This early digital tech, coupled with the specific sample ROM is what created the way they sound. All of that is modeled. Same with the D50 emulation. There is way way more to it than simply samples. So, it's always nice to maybe ask some questions and learn before making harsh judgements. Sometimes things are not as simple or cut and dried at they may first seem.
SOrry I don't believe a word you say . First I had a jv 1080 /2080 ..an xv5080 ..and now I have an integra . The roland jv1080 plugin is NOT an emulation of the jv1080 ..it is an emulation of thefantom/xv range ( which has better filters ) and it has the ROM set of the xv5080. Yes the d50 is modelled , but if you really believe that they modelled an srx card which only purpose was to store samples in ROM , then sorry...your gullible . Roland did not model the dac's of these romplers , or do you also think they modelled the potentially prone to exploding transistor on the JV exp. boards . ? ..:) noppes . I am not dissing roland here ( well maybe a litlle bit) , but I know they are the masters of marketing ..they are the only company that pumps so much money into their marketing campaigns . Anyway , the tr!s looks nice ....and yes know the 707/727 early digital circuitry are responsible for it's sound ..
Roland used the 8-bit ROMs from the TR-707, they didn't just sample it. The 707 was a hybrid digital/analog drum machine, though not quite to the extent the TR-909 was. The 8-bit samples are NASTY by themselves, super-bright and no decay whatsoever. That's where the 707's analog filters and envelopes come in. These analog filters and envelopes are fully reproduced and ADJUSTABLE on the TR-8. Impossible if they just sampled the 707 and called it a day. The TR-626 samples on the TR-8S ARE just samples, this is admitted in the preset list.
The TR8S has some sampled real drums and you can also import your own samples. By the way the TB 303, which is a bassline instrument, was also made of plastic and many other popular gear instruments were made of plastic in the 80's.
Roland and many other brands are just creaming off consumers with new products. Stuck to all analogue gear from the early eighties, you won’t be disappointed. Boring products from Roland.
I prefer my Elektron RYTM. Modern stable analog drum kit plus samples and a hell of a sequencer. It looks like Roland is finally catching up to a lot of this.... just as Elektron releases a MKII version with sampling as well as sample playback. Your move Roland.
I would love to hear you distinguish between the 909 kit on this vs an original analog 909 when mixed into a track. Spoiler: you couldn't. If being elitest about analog makes you feel good, have at it, but don't bother snubbing people who choose a 95% accurate sound with an incredibly more functional, practical, reliable and reasonably priced kit vs the aging and wildly priced originals. To have a 606, 707, 727, 808, 909 and your own samples with more functionality and a nicer interface for a quarter the price of one original 808 is worth something.
Clem Lysergy - Yeah, and the more I look at the TR-8S the more I realize just how much they added to this thing. I still have a bad taste in my mouth from playing with the oiginal TR-8 at Guitar Center. At the time I only had the Elektron Machinedrum and I still felt like it was worlds better than the TR-8. The 8S however does look like it can hold its own way better than the prior model. As some people are saying it seems Roland made a better modern Electribe than Korg did with the E2. But at the end of the day I already have the RYTM MKI and the 8S simply will not replace that in my setup.
Fantastic demo of the unit. Roland this guy is worth every penny!
Roland keep on keepin
On.I just got my tr8s and my mind won't stop my creative Flow!!!!!
Love final complet tr-8s! Great job roland!
Veryyyyy good job Roland! Finally a full well thought product. You're going to sell a bunch of these
This really whips the tr8 tr08 tr09 it completely lashes the boutique series, period.
I am definitely buying! Kick ass box!
Yeah i suppose it does. It's easy to ask why would you bother buying the roland boutiques when you can just buy this? However after thinking about it, the boutiques do still have their place i believe. If you are a real purist and want that traditional feel you can buy the boutiques. Also i think they would be a lot of fun to play. They are also kind of more for people with enough disposable income to afford them as they are limited to that one particular drum set basically.
@@shottskies I agree with your opinion I saved quite a lot buying the se-02 and sh-01a second hand and the d-05!
I really think your comment about the traditional feel of the boutique’s is a fine remark!
I will say though I still have my tr8s and I doubt I will ever sell!
Bought mine can't wait for it to arrive!
Tape Echo nice this is a Dub Techno machine now with samples , good work roland.
atommachine it can do way more than dub techno.
good presentation, great product. well done, Roland!
The coolest feature of this unit is that you can use it as a MIDI sequencer, using the 16 steps to trigger external instruments instead of using the passe internal supersaws, cheesy vocal hits, and rave sounds that were overused in the early 2000's.
Great demo
Wonderful, great product...I like it very much!
Next update: Sound Locks and Instant Pattern Change please
Parameter Locks for all the Controls you can add to CTRL would've been great - and dedicated Mute Buttons as well! Apart from this, that new TR8s looks really promising and mature compared to the stuff before. Well done.
Best demo
Peter your the man!!!!!!!!
What about using backing tracks .... Is it possible to import a backing track (whole song) and for each song different drum sounds and sequences ... So, a combination drum computer/ backing track player ....
That would be SO SICK
SOLD!
can you motion-record the clockspeed? if yes, also per step? To create a slowdown and nearly stop and shot it back up like a rubberband to sync back again into the songspeed?
Is this a standalone or do I need a computer
definitely standalone
So could I record a sound and then put load it onto the tr8 s ? If so how?
but does it do djent??
Can anybody tell me what the Genre/Style of Music at 6:45min could be called? Especially the part from 7:25min - 7:37min.... Sounds a bit like a modern electronic Reggae/Dancehall/Hip Hop style... at least bpm wise ;)
I think the kids call that "dubstep." It was pretty popular for a while. So popular they used it in toothpaste and adult diaper commercials.
@@delta-9969 hahaha thats funny. But for dubstep it needs all those triplets i think....
is it possible to make the scatter last only a fraction of the variation, or change its deep while it is playing?
Great stuff / overview. I know it can do some forms of param-locking. Could you guys put together an interesting demo on the dynamic ideas one might explore with that? Much thanks!
Can you record a pattern unquantized?
I do love me a warbled diffusion.
Can you delete the factory vocal samples Roland unfortunately put in there, instating of putting in the much coveted CR-78 sounds? static.roland.com/assets/media/pdf/TR-8S_PresetToneList_eng01_W.pdf
No Song mode right?
Impressive.
Biggest thing I want to know is can it do alternating fills, eg one type on 8 different another on the 16,
Or just play the one type every time
You can switch the fills on the fly but it will trigger only what you've cued up.
Brandon Ryan disappointing an alternating fill system like the actual patterns would make it more dynamic like a real drummer ,
still looks good but think that it would have been better with that type of feature
Agreeing with Dan! Still a pretty cool tool!
Yeah I would very much like to have one of these ans use a midi foot controller to change between at least 2 main patterns and a few fills on the fly like the Beatbuddy pedal srum machine as many of us wanna be able to play our real Synths as well when jamming but still be able to mix up the drums some with our feet while doing that
Does this machine have standard drum and base guitar sounds?
Can you run external audio through the internal reverb and delay??
🤠 It appears that you can rolandcorp.com.au/blog/the-ultimate-guide-to-the-tr-8s-rhythm-performer-applying-sidechain-fx-to-another-instrument-using-external-in
Would love to also see what someone like Daedelus could do with this machine
can you layer on each step say 2 sounds per step?
The menu diving looks bad. I can see holding two buttons down while turning a dial to access a menu and that just reminds be of the UI of the microkorg or jdxi.
If the guy wears a TB 303 or TR 808 tee shirt (on all other videos), he is obviously the "good taste keeper"...even if he plays elevator music !
this box will make more of the same music heard over and over in the last 25 years !
Blame the musician and listeners, not the box.
How many tracks can you layer?
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can samples be played chromatically ?
Ward de jager yes. I saw a tuned 808 kick.
Not exactly, you have to tune them by step. Not sure if it shows the semitone or cents when tuning yet
Just bought on e of these and its great for making other styles of music than just techno and dance which I can't stand. I might have to do a video on the stuff I do with it. More heavy kinda Trap stuff with Heavy Metal influence. Oh yeah.
Mike T barf.
Roland dropped the mic with this one..
what i am wondering and its still not clear for me (after watching 3 different tr-8s demos). Can i alter the speed of a sample in real time? on the website it says something about sample-speed and in this video you mentioned a rate parameter that also can reverse the sample.
spenza kwsx, altering the pitch of the sample would speed it up or down however, the pitch of the sample would be affected. Speeding up the sample without affecting the pitch would be timestretching which I don't think it does but I could be wrong.
knuftobor such a shame. of all the new drummachines i checked not a single one is capable of timestretching. its 2018 and samplemanglinag is still not here really :/
spenza kwsx, Pioneer Taraiz SP-16 is a sampling drum machine that can time stretch but its very expensive, at least $1000.00. Might as well use Maschine. There are so many features that should be added to hardware drum machines like what Serato sample can do with the ability to save your chopped samples seperately which Serato can't do. And chop samples like recycle which does a great job of fading out the sample so you don't have pops at the end. Or auto region like Sound Forge. I could go on and on...
I think you can do that on the Octatrack and maybe even the MPC live but im not positive.
knuftobor true.. well, i have maschine. but the inbuild sampler is very basic which is weird because battery and kontakt have it. kontakt has also different pitch algorythms. the only way i get live timestretching (i mean not loopbased, i want to play the sample via sequencer or keyboard) is when i add the talsampler to machine. i spent the last couple of days trying to find a vst-sampler that loops (with variable start and end-points) and stretches samples as well. nothing found yet...
They did! haha they really must read the youtube comments everything the haters talked about they added. I'm feeling the sampling option alone that makes this work looking at for a purchase.
Ameretsu Shidori, They said it plays samples. There was morning mentioned about sampling. The MPC & ASR--10 are samplers. We have yet to see how easy it is to import samples into it.
Yup. We read everything. :-)
Shouldn't be that hard to import samples. They just reworked the 404 to the 404S. I'm guessing TR-8S is going to use a similar sample load setup with the SD card. which is the usual load from SD and assign. I'm curious if this is going to have software with it like the 404 where you can pad assign. Seems like they encourage you to use more than just drum sounds on this. That's what seems like it's going to be crazy.
there is no sampling dumbass..only sample import ...not the same thing dumbass!
@galinettto netto
sam·plingˈsamp(ə)liNG/nounnoun: sampling; plural noun: samplings1. the taking of a sample or samples."routine river sampling is carried out according to a schedule"Statisticsa sample.2. the technique of digitally encoding music or sound and reusing it as part of a composition or recording.
The TR-8S has the "option" of working with "samplings". The "option" to load, tweak, make beats/songs and work with custom "sampling" over stock sounds is what's known as a "sampling option." "Sampling" & "Sampler" two very different terms so write that down in your note book. A "Sampler" is a device that can record samples. "Sampling" on the other hand is a term that can be applied to the process of recording a sample itself or referred to as the post product of a sample (aka a Sampling). Yes, you can record multiple samples from a song and take those "samplings" load them into the TR-8S and make new music with it.
Now I know all of you know it all's that watch a 10-15 minute video are now industry experts on sampling. So I take that into account. I'm like galinettto netto must be some kind of music master since everyone is a "dumbass" compared to him let me check out his channel. I go and look and there's a video using "entry level" gear I listen to the song... "it's shit of course"... Sound like the time a spoon got caught in my garbage disposal... and then I see the volume of dislikes and the 1 dislike on his video and I'm like... hmmm this guy should spend less time making dumbass comments on youtube and more time learning how to make actual music. Just some advice for you.
Muito bom
I have the tr8 and it always has been a bit awkward to navigate this version does seem much better
exactly..... this one gives much needed visual feedback.
i purchased my tr-8 when it first came out, and to this day it has barely been touched, because i didn't know what the hell was going on.
that being said, i ordered my tr-8s a few hours ago.
I do know how to use mine, but i get what youre saying the workflow is definitely why i dont use it as much as i would have liked.
it does look like they fixed the main issues in the new one at least, probably still gonna keep the original tr-8 though
Maj Jam i had the tr8. Now have this. Tr8 is much easier to quickly get ideas down. This requires much more menu diving and set up to get what you want out of it.
Bith are anazing units but tr8s has newer acb and importing samples that sold it for me.
Chris Smith Hi how do you change the rythm styles on the tr8 like he is doing here with the value button like style 1,2,34,5 and so on. I just got tr8 pre owned and cant seem to get the hang of that. thanks
@@GenosGlory which part of video are you referring to. How many minutes in?
nice you byted the parameter lock from elektron. smart move...
thats not unique to elektron lol
the fill - same as the last one and most of them - out of time. Listen to this, then stick the prodigy on from 20 yrs ago - itll feel like we havent moved an inch
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Really cool device.
But it's not knocking me out of my socks like a real TR-909 bass drum punch...
...maybe it's about how it was recorded after all...
it's about how it was recorded.... you can have ear damaging bass in this one by increasing the gain in this machine....RTFM
Lots of faders and pretty buttons to grab here but no pads, editing screen, or sound library like Maschine for the same price.
Michael Robles it’s not trying to be Maschine. That’s completely different. The hardware vs software debate has been going for many years and you’re claiming to have just solved it.
Can I use my Guitar Center coupon for this?
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nice looking box of lights, however all these thing sound the same! you really need a good musician/producer to knock an interesting tune out. All we get are sequences that sound like phil collins being kicked down a staircase
As is the case with most instruments though.
Actually Phil Collins was a great drummer doing great music! Just listen to Brand X and early Genesis , Phil Collins was a great drummer rhythmic genius......what's your silly point?!
That this drum/sequencer doesn't do justice to great percussionist like Phil Collins? Or you feel this box isn't a great drum sequencer???? Drum machines aren't trying to be great drummers like Phil Collins....that is up to the programmer who understands great percussive rhythms and can lay them down on a drum machine then evolve them with great systems that allows that evolution of drum programming?. I feel this systems allows that in an easy intuitive way????? Just me. I am selling my Digitakt to get this fluid and intuitive machine. But i am just an electronic composer who doesn't have access to calling up Phil Collins or any other drummer to come to my studio and back me up when ever I have a creative burp during my days and nights? Burp! And in a very nice Mr. Rogers kind of way which was way before my time.....fuck you! You snobbish prick. So many of us music creators have no access to great studio musicians or drummers, tech have given so many people to have great creative tools for creative expression! What is wrong with that???? We are in the Golden age of music creativity for the average person out there who never had this expression available before.
Phil Collins used a drum machine more than any "rock" artist, including the CR-78 from "In the Air Tonight" as well as the Linn Drum and Akai MPC 60.
Leave Phil Collins alone. You sound like a basement keyboard cowboy.
The thing about comments is they can be so musically crippling to the point were you only seek the best equipment that there is and still make mediocre tracks , this drum machine is as creative and limited as the person using it . My advice buy it ,learn it, like you would a guitar and make it sound as musical as physically possible. It’s a great machine , just learn to use it .
The samples in between of the drum sounds in this vid are horrific and cheesy: they do not do the machine justice. The big plus of the ability of "The S" to play samples is that you can emulate famous romplers like the Linndrum. But this time around with the fantastic famed "808-like" interface with the 16 colored buttons for the 16 (or more) steps per beat. The "evolution" is *NOT* that you can you use it like one those awful Grooveboxes of yesteryear, like they do in this vid.
meneerjansen00 Nah it’s both. You can upload samples of anything and make anything you want on this. Upload a saw wave sample and use the filter and effects to add real synthesis to tracks. OR upload LinnDrum samples. Best of both worlds.
Think I`d really like one of these ....... and use it for making some far more manly music than performed in the demo of course ! heh heh heh
that is one of the whackest statements i've ever read
Anybody want to buy a Rytm?
HURRAY! This thing actually comes with a real manual.... lol
I prefer my Yamaha RX15 thank you for trying...
I had a RX-5, believe me this unit rocks!
Roland this product would be great if you were just making lounge music. Where are the hardcore sounds?
Implying Guitar Center employees know anything about stuff other than guitars. I had someone try to tell me a Korg Ms2000 was a 1980s analog synth.
ApolloSynths he’s from Roland
A modelled 707 and 727 .
These were sample based in the first place ...c'mon roland ...don't bull shit .
ANOther funny marketing strategy ..for their ' jv orchestral vst plugin' ..roland say's that they modeled the original srx expansion board ...
from their site
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Roland has modeled every aspect of these beloved cards down to the circuit and in software
Digital Circuit Behavior (DCB) faithfully captures every detail of the original SRX based expansion
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.WTF ..the srx expansiono board had samples in ROM ...so what did they actually model , the samples ???
A marketing joke realy .;
Yes the 606/808/909 these were orignal analog and are thus modelled ..that part is true
Ward de jager Allow me to offer some education on the subject. The machines you speak of had all kinds of primitive digital tech that added up to the way they sound. This early digital tech, coupled with the specific sample ROM is what created the way they sound. All of that is modeled. Same with the D50 emulation. There is way way more to it than simply samples. So, it's always nice to maybe ask some questions and learn before making harsh judgements. Sometimes things are not as simple or cut and dried at they may first seem.
SOrry I don't believe a word you say .
First I had a jv 1080 /2080 ..an xv5080 ..and now I have an integra .
The roland jv1080 plugin is NOT an emulation of the jv1080 ..it is an emulation of thefantom/xv range ( which has better filters ) and it has the ROM set of the xv5080.
Yes the d50 is modelled , but if you really believe that they modelled an srx card which only purpose was to store samples in ROM , then sorry...your gullible .
Roland did not model the dac's of these romplers , or do you also think they modelled the potentially prone to exploding transistor on the JV exp. boards . ? ..:) noppes .
I am not dissing roland here ( well maybe a litlle bit) , but I know they are the masters of marketing ..they are the only company that pumps so much money into their marketing campaigns .
Anyway , the tr!s looks nice ....and yes know the 707/727 early digital circuitry are responsible for it's sound ..
Roland used the 8-bit ROMs from the TR-707, they didn't just sample it. The 707 was a hybrid digital/analog drum machine, though not quite to the extent the TR-909 was. The 8-bit samples are NASTY by themselves, super-bright and no decay whatsoever. That's where the 707's analog filters and envelopes come in. These analog filters and envelopes are fully reproduced and ADJUSTABLE on the TR-8. Impossible if they just sampled the 707 and called it a day. The TR-626 samples on the TR-8S ARE just samples, this is admitted in the preset list.
TR 707 analog filters ?
You're dellusional mate .
Please point me to the source of this information
in a room full of hanging dinosaurs
Wake me up when I can access the hardware emulation and virtually solder my own circuit mods into the machine....
blablabla
Give me a break
Meh, electronic drums dont do it for me, they just sound cheap and plastic. Real drums and even sampled real drums sound better
The TR8S has some sampled real drums and you can also import your own samples. By the way the TB 303, which is a bassline instrument, was also made of plastic and many other popular gear instruments were made of plastic in the 80's.
Roland and many other brands are just creaming off consumers with new products. Stuck to all analogue gear from the early eighties, you won’t be disappointed. Boring products from Roland.
I'd rather not spend my life's savings on some old faulty gear tho
I prefer my Elektron RYTM. Modern stable analog drum kit plus samples and a hell of a sequencer. It looks like Roland is finally catching up to a lot of this.... just as Elektron releases a MKII version with sampling as well as sample playback. Your move Roland.
I would love to hear you distinguish between the 909 kit on this vs an original analog 909 when mixed into a track. Spoiler: you couldn't.
If being elitest about analog makes you feel good, have at it, but don't bother snubbing people who choose a 95% accurate sound with an incredibly more functional, practical, reliable and reasonably priced kit vs the aging and wildly priced originals.
To have a 606, 707, 727, 808, 909 and your own samples with more functionality and a nicer interface for a quarter the price of one original 808 is worth something.
I'd prefer a RYTM too, but this is less have half the price
Clem Lysergy - Yeah, and the more I look at the TR-8S the more I realize just how much they added to this thing. I still have a bad taste in my mouth from playing with the oiginal TR-8 at Guitar Center. At the time I only had the Elektron Machinedrum and I still felt like it was worlds better than the TR-8. The 8S however does look like it can hold its own way better than the prior model. As some people are saying it seems Roland made a better modern Electribe than Korg did with the E2. But at the end of the day I already have the RYTM MKI and the 8S simply will not replace that in my setup.