Man! Roland’s people are on fire 🔥! Great products and nice updates - one after another. Nice demo as usual. Keep on rocking the drum machine in a free world ✌️
Love your work Jeremy, another great video. I am learning how to use my digitone by watching your videos. I have a TR6 and this editor opens things up nicely. Thank you Roland and Jeremy.
As long as the sales stats of MC-707 will not drop, they will keep the MC-707 as the natural step for the (sometimes frustrated) 101 users. But yeah, I wish I can seamlessly create the patterns&patches here and there; sketch on the 101, work on the 707, final polish in the editor, use some zencore patches there and final production/performance on the 707 again. Would be great ;-)
Noice demo of this. Watched the official Roland intro video before watching this one…it’s fun (and valuable) to watch your take on this. You answered a key question regarding importing User samples via this update (it doesn’t), but good to know it is likely to be added as a feature soon (big time saver!). Thx again!
Stuff like this editor (and equivalent app) ought to come standard…in my opinion. I assumed this already existed. I hope Arturia makes one for the Drum Brute(s).
Okay, so I found out about the editor for my registered TR-8S from you and not from Roland. C'mon Roland, send us an email to announce a thing like this.
One of my channel's visitors pointed me towards you, because my leopard paws and kigurumi reminded him of you. I just watched a few minutes, but am already in love with your music and content! "Six channels, they are gay and that's fantastic" xD - Subscribed!
New lease of life for the boots&cats machine is always good. The MC's could do with a similar treatment. Zenology is good for what it does, but this is a whole other beastie.
This will definitely make sequencing basslines and melodic stuff way easier. Now if they could just add off-grid timing in the next update I might not try to sell my 8S...
@@voidnull787 no but it definitely would be cool (and fairly straightforward) to have a nifty little hammer attachment on my wrench for some quick jobs.
And maybe, the ability to pick a variation or variations from the editor. I'm getting dizzy spinning back and forth between desk and 'S. And now I've had to install Ableton just so I can start and stop without said chair spinning.
Hmm. So i installed the Editor. Works like a charm. Unfortunately I realize there is no way to really edit and rearrange samples or am I missing something? Or in other words, its a pain to re arrange samples on the machine in case you import a few...
the Roland cloud is weird man! I cant figure out how to open the editor, I got it installed and I see it in my Library but that about it. also this was the first time I had my tr6s hooked via usb on my pc and when i turned the volume knob on it down i heard Gaz Williams voice from the vid im watching get lower haha(it had control over my whole system volume, i guess that is what class compliant means?). I'm going to figure this out and pretty curious about how its going to work with Ableton.
I have the tr-6s with the 1.0.0 version and I'm having some trouble to use this editor interface. I did download and install the .exe without any issues, but when I run the editor it shows an alert saying that my device is outdated. I tried to update via usb cable following the instructions on the roland website (copy and paste the bin file into the tr6s driver folder), but nothing happened (device shows the no update file was found message). Does anyone knows how to proceed?
So listen, kids of today. All you need is one of these little boxes and then learn and use it 110%. Awesome what you can get these days. #imho, this CLEARLY shows why Roland just doesn't re-releases the classic Mid-0-devices 1:1. Their core motto was/is "We design the future." And here they did! It's a great tool, but it needs to be learned thoroughly. peace, love and 🟥🟧🟨⬜ ...
Tried to install it on my Mac.. and I immediately got one of those wonderful, generic error messages "Not available for your operating system" (I have a 2010 iMac). Thanks Roland for imposing a perfectly unnecessary dependency on a newer OS library.
As a software developer I can tell that it's not as easy as one might think to support 11 years of various operating system versions. While I have also some dislikes about the way Roland makes their software (usability of the Roland Cloud app and some plugins is horrible in my opinion), at one point developers have to say you need some kind of recent OS version. They might also assume that computers older than 10 years just don't have enough computing power anymore, and there are just a hand full of people using devices that old. But I am also a huge fan of open source software, where you can decide yourself to learn some programming and make software work on the platform/OS version of your choice as you wish, or pay someone to do so.
@@HenningSprang I'm a software engineer myself, so I get your comments about "at one point devs have to say.." The thing with an editor for almost any drum machine is that an editor is 90% user interface and 10% data communications (I'm simplifying of course). Such functional dimensions do not require any newer OS. A 15-year old Apple OS could do this.. so then the question becomes: what silly little feature of a newer OS did a Roland dev allow into the editor's list of dependencies? In my experience, less experienced developers are not as conscious about dependencies to external libraries or OS APIs as they ought to be. Worse still, often such introduced dependencies cannot even be justified when the negatieve impacts on users are taken into account. Anyway, as a TR-8S owner, it totally sucks that this editor refuses to install on my older machine.
@@laurencevanhelsuwe3052 well then we talk from expert to expert... but then you also know, that the problem is not necessarily the features that are required on the OS, but the changing API's to be used in each major version of the OS to, especially the GUI components, and having to support 4 or 5 major OS versions also means a huge increase in testing to make sure it works well on all of those... Anyway, I am also not happy with a bunch of things they do with their software in general, had many strange plugin problems (so not being a full subscriber anymore because I only pay for properly working software), and the cloud manager is very weird, and they do not get the TR Editor to properly work on different resolutions/scaling settings of the retina or hidpi displays. My preference would be they get this straight for the current and previous major OS versions first before support >10 year old things - but that will change as soon as my own hardware is > 10 years ;)
From my entire immediate family who are mostly lgbqt2+, thank you for the gay drum machine, especially for the two members of the family trying to produce EDM. Made me chortle. Must be that PNW humor (ex-Vashon&VolunteerPark here). And as always, thank you for the wizardry, and the passing of knowledge. I also believe that this fits the making of music now. This is the natural progression of music tech. I've liked other hardware producers, but Roland has had a special place in my heart ever since the early 80s. This is sick! (as my 12yr old would say).
When the individual instrument effects are applied can these be recorded via usb tracks 3-8 into your DAW or do the seperate instruments output 'dry' ? Is it only the stereo out the carries the seperate instrument effects (not global fx but the individual bd, sn ect)
now i have a 2015 MBP and it allows scaling DOWN windows instead of just bigger like my old macbook, so now i can squint and see all the options available on the editor. I really hope they change the GUI and make a similar interface for the MC707, would be amazing...
Quick question. I haven't updated my TR6S since I purchased it last December. Will I need to back up my patterns and kits before plugging it into the editor?
There are two TR-6S units in a showcase at my job right now that I have been looking at a lot over the past few months. This is not helping my growing compulsion to buy one, because this makes it seem like a very competent little performance sampler now that it's got a proper editor...
Anyone else get a "ground loop" noise when connecting their TR-6S (or even TR-8S) to USB port on their PC or laptop? I've tried an isolator but the TR-6S just won't power up with the one I have. (Turns on for a brief second, then shuts off PC wont recognize it either). Any work arounds?
I don't have a TR-6S, but a MC-101 which had the same issue. Then I noticed I did NOT have that if my MC was connected to a different power plug then my PC. Also no noise when MC is running on batteries. Hope it helps.
@@rsennac Thanks for the response. I think the best solution in my case would be to try the batteries as the TR-6S has no separate way to get power (only from the USB)
Cool, nice demo of using the app for programming sounds on the machine! Is there a secret button to save a backup of the machine locally on the computer? Or maybe even single patterns/kits/instruments? That would make it even more useful, but so far I see it makes a backup when updating the firmware, but I dont see a button to make a backup whenever I want, or restore it. Also, am I the only one having problems fitting the app on their laptop screen? It seems not to support fullscreen mode and is just a bit too large to fit into the height of resolution of my MacBook 13...
Huh, I didn't know that this drum machine existed! It's got support for both samples and modelled drum synthesis? I think I might consider it now as a first drum machine! ...although Model:Samples is still cheaper, and that can play samples chromatically as well...
@@RedMeansRecording I meant that Model:Samples has both the price and full frequency control going for it over the TR-6S. Yeah, I guess that one is a groovebox, while the other one is first and foremost a drum machine. EDIT: Wait, you mean that Model:Cycles or TR-6S has minimal FM controls?
I tried using this on my tr8s and I had no idea how fucking difficult it is to update a tr8s. so much that I got over it and didn't even try the editor.
Sample import and probability (per step and for FX as well)! Come on Roland!
This Editor is a Game CHANGER! Like it changes everything, now you can cook something up and browse everything instantly. AMAZING!!!
game enhancer at most ;)
This is one synth I definitly don’t think I’m going to regret buying
This editor rocks! I love my 6s, but after playing with the editor, a whole new world has opened. This tiny machine is so powerful!
Thanks. My TR8S is about to be chock full of new kits for a performance tomorrow!
Man! Roland’s people are on fire 🔥! Great products and nice updates - one after another. Nice demo as usual. Keep on rocking the drum machine in a free world ✌️
6s is awesome. I almost got a drum brute impact but I'm glad I didn't
Love your work Jeremy, another great video. I am learning how to use my digitone by watching your videos. I have a TR6 and this editor opens things up nicely. Thank you Roland and Jeremy.
I love all your work and I’m learning so much from you . . . Thank you Jeremy!!
Roland MC series needs something like that, mc-101especially
As long as the sales stats of MC-707 will not drop, they will keep the MC-707 as the natural step for the (sometimes frustrated) 101 users. But yeah, I wish I can seamlessly create the patterns&patches here and there; sketch on the 101, work on the 707, final polish in the editor, use some zencore patches there and final production/performance on the 707 again. Would be great ;-)
I love the TR-6S for performing on but setting up kits is a drag. This is rad.
This also looks like a really fun way to learn more about how the TR thingies work without spending so.much.time.menu.diving. Amazing!!
Yes the menus are a pain in the ass. Just downloaded this software tonight
Hell yeah! I just got the 6s last week! Happy days
Great demonstration of the editor. Probably the best one I've found so far. Cheers!
Noice demo of this. Watched the official Roland intro video before watching this one…it’s fun (and valuable) to watch your take on this. You answered a key question regarding importing User samples via this update (it doesn’t), but good to know it is likely to be added as a feature soon (big time saver!). Thx again!
Stuff like this editor (and equivalent app) ought to come standard…in my opinion. I assumed this already existed. I hope Arturia makes one for the Drum Brute(s).
I just bought a used 6s because it was Cute, Colorful and Cheap, to which I now add Capable.
Lots of fun watching! Thanx for sharing, gonna get the editor.
such a compelling little box, great demo sir, thank you.
Okay, so I found out about the editor for my registered TR-8S from you and not from Roland. C'mon Roland, send us an email to announce a thing like this.
Hey Roland! Make an editor on iOS please.
Jeremy switching from an 808 snare to an 808 snare is my favorite part
Lol
Did I hear mention of where the boombands are playing? Oh, the places you'll go!
I sold my tr-8s about a year ago. Now that there is a software editor i think its time to buy another one.
Mine’s arriving tomorrow. I’m delighted that it’s gay. Good to see there’s an editor for it.
God damnit, can't decide between this and the Erica Synth LXR-02! Both sounds so good.
They are very different
@@albertotolo yeah but I still cant decide.😆
Roland. Definitely
Man. Seeing this makes me wanna get a tr-6s. Lol. Amazing possibilities and so small. Weeeeeee!
My favorite feature of this machine is the gay. All day.❤️
8:27 - That keyboard chord sounds like the very opening moment of Postal Service’s album, “Give Up.” - The District Sleeps Alone Tonight
Incredible album
@@zbsfm Indeed! I’ve always loved Ben Gibbard’s writing, and the collab with perfect.
That’s good.
And a dope beat there at the end!
finally a gay drum machine
@Snake Plissken and partial to some swing...
Hilarious
That was hilarious
Like fatboy slim said, “Everyone, including gay people need a 303”
😂😂😂
Red Really Really Means Recording 😄
Tr editor is fire. Just made a improv with tr6s and tb03 on my channel!
One of my channel's visitors pointed me towards you, because my leopard paws and kigurumi reminded him of you. I just watched a few minutes, but am already in love with your music and content!
"Six channels, they are gay and that's fantastic" xD - Subscribed!
Just a week ago I was really thinking about selling the TR-6S, but hell no :-)
New lease of life for the boots&cats machine is always good.
The MC's could do with a similar treatment. Zenology is good for what it does, but this is a whole other beastie.
This will definitely make sequencing basslines and melodic stuff way easier. Now if they could just add off-grid timing in the next update I might not try to sell my 8S...
this confuses me, do people who do this NOT have other synthesizers? You wouldn't use a plumbers wrench as a hammer, just because you can...
@@voidnull787 no but it definitely would be cool (and fairly straightforward) to have a nifty little hammer attachment on my wrench for some quick jobs.
Thanks dad, the only thing that's missing is start stop !
And maybe, the ability to pick a variation or variations from the editor. I'm getting dizzy spinning back and forth between desk and 'S. And now I've had to install Ableton just so I can start and stop without said chair spinning.
worth every penny, great device. and great video. thank you :)
Hmm. So i installed the Editor. Works like a charm. Unfortunately I realize there is no way to really edit and rearrange samples or am I missing something?
Or in other words, its a pain to re arrange samples on the machine in case you import a few...
Game changer!!
The cat at the end! Nice touch
hope to see this for the MC707 soon
Awesome... but yes sample editing 👌
“They are gay which is fantastic” 😂
the Roland cloud is weird man! I cant figure out how to open the editor, I got it installed and I see it in my Library but that about it. also this was the first time I had my tr6s hooked via usb on my pc and when i turned the volume knob on it down i heard Gaz Williams voice from the vid im watching get lower haha(it had control over my whole system volume, i guess that is what class compliant means?). I'm going to figure this out and pretty curious about how its going to work with Ableton.
I have the tr-6s with the 1.0.0 version and I'm having some trouble to use this editor interface. I did download and install the .exe without any issues, but when I run the editor it shows an alert saying that my device is outdated. I tried to update via usb cable following the instructions on the roland website (copy and paste the bin file into the tr6s driver folder), but nothing happened (device shows the no update file was found message). Does anyone knows how to proceed?
Lol I love this channel so much
TY for the great video
"They are gay which is fantastic"
“Mr Roland” 🤓
I need to update the tr6s, but after installing the update i dont know how to precceed can someone help me out?
Hello. Great video. Can you help me solve the USB line noise that happens when it's tethered to a computer? Thank you.
So listen, kids of today. All you need is one of these little boxes and then learn and use it 110%. Awesome what you can get these days. #imho, this CLEARLY shows why Roland just doesn't re-releases the classic Mid-0-devices 1:1. Their core motto was/is "We design the future." And here they did! It's a great tool, but it needs to be learned thoroughly.
peace, love and 🟥🟧🟨⬜ ...
I really liked this video
Tried to install it on my Mac.. and I immediately got one of those wonderful, generic error messages "Not available for your operating system" (I have a 2010 iMac). Thanks Roland for imposing a perfectly unnecessary dependency on a newer OS library.
As a software developer I can tell that it's not as easy as one might think to support 11 years of various operating system versions. While I have also some dislikes about the way Roland makes their software (usability of the Roland Cloud app and some plugins is horrible in my opinion), at one point developers have to say you need some kind of recent OS version. They might also assume that computers older than 10 years just don't have enough computing power anymore, and there are just a hand full of people using devices that old.
But I am also a huge fan of open source software, where you can decide yourself to learn some programming and make software work on the platform/OS version of your choice as you wish, or pay someone to do so.
@@HenningSprang I'm a software engineer myself, so I get your comments about "at one point devs have to say.." The thing with an editor for almost any drum machine is that an editor is 90% user interface and 10% data communications (I'm simplifying of course). Such functional dimensions do not require any newer OS. A 15-year old Apple OS could do this.. so then the question becomes: what silly little feature of a newer OS did a Roland dev allow into the editor's list of dependencies? In my experience, less experienced developers are not as conscious about dependencies to external libraries or OS APIs as they ought to be. Worse still, often such introduced dependencies cannot even be justified when the negatieve impacts on users are taken into account. Anyway, as a TR-8S owner, it totally sucks that this editor refuses to install on my older machine.
@@laurencevanhelsuwe3052 well then we talk from expert to expert... but then you also know, that the problem is not necessarily the features that are required on the OS, but the changing API's to be used in each major version of the OS to, especially the GUI components, and having to support 4 or 5 major OS versions also means a huge increase in testing to make sure it works well on all of those...
Anyway, I am also not happy with a bunch of things they do with their software in general, had many strange plugin problems (so not being a full subscriber anymore because I only pay for properly working software), and the cloud manager is very weird, and they do not get the TR Editor to properly work on different resolutions/scaling settings of the retina or hidpi displays.
My preference would be they get this straight for the current and previous major OS versions first before support >10 year old things - but that will change as soon as my own hardware is > 10 years ;)
There's always a work around. Do it in windows WINE 🍷 within Mac. Or see if you can run compatibility options
From my entire immediate family who are mostly lgbqt2+, thank you for the gay drum machine, especially for the two members of the family trying to produce EDM. Made me chortle. Must be that PNW humor (ex-Vashon&VolunteerPark here). And as always, thank you for the wizardry, and the passing of knowledge. I also believe that this fits the making of music now. This is the natural progression of music tech. I've liked other hardware producers, but Roland has had a special place in my heart ever since the early 80s. This is sick! (as my 12yr old would say).
When the individual instrument effects are applied can these be recorded via usb tracks 3-8 into your DAW or do the seperate instruments output 'dry' ? Is it only the stereo out the carries the seperate instrument effects (not global fx but the individual bd, sn ect)
30 seconds in, clever joke. had to subscribe
Looks cool, shame i cant afford it.
Eh, thats that and this is this.
This was indeed fun thank you now I'm thinking about adapting a little gay drum machine 😄
this is it, I'm selling my mc 101
i had to get a new macbook, because my 2012 wouldn't rescale the GUI and it was too big to fit on my 13"
now i have a 2015 MBP and it allows scaling DOWN windows instead of just bigger like my old macbook, so now i can squint and see all the options available on the editor. I really hope they change the GUI and make a similar interface for the MC707, would be amazing...
The stutter was kind'a hard to watch -- thank you for pointing it out as a video flaw.
Hahaha, don't ever stop using that choke group joke.
Quick question. I haven't updated my TR6S since I purchased it last December. Will I need to back up my patterns and kits before plugging it into the editor?
Seems like the ISO on your camera might have been set a bit high, seeing a lot of image noise. Great video as always though
There are two TR-6S units in a showcase at my job right now that I have been looking at a lot over the past few months.
This is not helping my growing compulsion to buy one, because this makes it seem like a very competent little performance sampler now that it's got a proper editor...
Pull the trigger man. Interaction with the shift functions was really the only annoyance with this box, it's 10 times better now
Could an editor for the 101/707 be next 🙏
More DnB for demos!!!
Watching it to see our boy not for the device. (;
Roland: "Buy a 404mk II or MC-707 for samples"
No samples import? Still need to copy samples manually and import them from the machine...?
Yeah :(
i install editor in windows 10 but imposible open!! crash all the time...
Fun
Hmm. Seriously now, This editor looks like a great way to be g… Sorry i meant to learn the machine inside out if you are new to hardwear workflow.
This would be perfect for me with trigger out. Don’t have space for tr8 :(
It looks like a WinAmp player:) Well, my once beloved WinAmp. So no offence
Can this whole pattern be transposed to another key?
Anyone else get a "ground loop" noise when connecting their TR-6S (or even TR-8S) to USB port on their PC or laptop? I've tried an isolator but the TR-6S just won't power up with the one I have. (Turns on for a brief second, then shuts off PC wont recognize it either). Any work arounds?
I don't have a TR-6S, but a MC-101 which had the same issue. Then I noticed I did NOT have that if my MC was connected to a different power plug then my PC. Also no noise when MC is running on batteries. Hope it helps.
@@rsennac Thanks for the response. I think the best solution in my case would be to try the batteries as the TR-6S has no separate way to get power (only from the USB)
Yeah :(
Love the Drum Kitty 🐱
Cool, nice demo of using the app for programming sounds on the machine!
Is there a secret button to save a backup of the machine locally on the computer? Or maybe even single patterns/kits/instruments? That would make it even more useful, but so far I see it makes a backup when updating the firmware, but I dont see a button to make a backup whenever I want, or restore it.
Also, am I the only one having problems fitting the app on their laptop screen? It seems not to support fullscreen mode and is just a bit too large to fit into the height of resolution of my MacBook 13...
Yes to gay drums
Is the editor MIDI SysEx over USB or some proprietary protocol ?
dunno
Where can I find information on your Patreon?
Video description
Huh, I didn't know that this drum machine existed! It's got support for both samples and modelled drum synthesis? I think I might consider it now as a first drum machine! ...although Model:Samples is still cheaper, and that can play samples chromatically as well...
Very very very very minal fm controls. Not really comparable to the modal cycles for instance.
@@RedMeansRecording I meant that Model:Samples has both the price and full frequency control going for it over the TR-6S.
Yeah, I guess that one is a groovebox, while the other one is first and foremost a drum machine.
EDIT:
Wait, you mean that Model:Cycles or TR-6S has minimal FM controls?
Does anyone know if it works with windows 7?
second that
so who is better .. present Jeremy or future Jeremy ..
one of the two is cheating lol
much love from Miami
I'm just staring at my Digitakt now, praying it will come out of the closet.
🙏🏳️🌈🙏
The takt has this already?
I think dudes saying he wants a rainbow Digitakt 🌈
You can order custom skin for front panel. I saw yellow and another one, maybe space , can’t remember.
I've always wanted a gay drum machine. My dreams are a reality.
Gay faders OMG lol
What kind of mean people desogn an app that doesn't fit on most Macbooks?🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦
How on earth is this useful without being a plugin or being able to sync to some running jam.. orrr
Any word on a similar thing for TR-O6?
I tried using this on my tr8s and I had no idea how fucking difficult it is to update a tr8s. so much that I got over it and didn't even try the editor.
uhh i updated my tr6s with no problem following the steps. but ive used computers since before i could talk.
got it just because of the gay part hahahahaha
but it's just an editor :( what a bummer, no vst, useless in a daw. I hope someone will do a proper reverse engineering
It's almost unbearable trying to watch your mouse movements / app window with the messed up frame rate 😩
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