I won't lie Doug. I have gone to great lengths to avoid your channel. The snow has gotten so depressing,i found you at the end of summer so i have been suffering immensely seeing you grow and post more. I really appreciate your compassion to bmx and helping people get into and or understand it.
I have a 2021 Kink Whip XL and it’s been doing well on the trails. I have added a odyssey 1999 front brakes, rant rims front and rear, odyssey 28T La Guardia front sprocket, and maxxis maxxDaddy tires.
12 year old me had a Mongoose Hoop-D that I got at Walmart in like 1998 for I think $150 when my Diamondback was stolen. If not for Mongoose I wouldn't have been able to afford another BMX bike. Mongoose holds a special place in my heart. I bent the forks and flipped over the bars at the park when I clipped my front wheel but 12 year old me was able to bend them back into shape.
Hard to fault that list. Doug's really built a great formula to break a bike down from a variety of angles for comparison. Personally, I think the Colony Premise trumps everything on that list but it's also a much more expensive bike over there in the US. Here (in Australia) a 2012 Whip costs AU$800 and while a Premise's RRP is AU$1100, you can get them as low as $680 (I paid $798), which is quite a bit cheaper than the Whip and features a far better fork and front hub. I picked up a near-new Devotion frame and stem just recently and built it up with a Wasp wheelset and the spline-drive Fiend sprocket I was going on about in Doug's live stream a week ago. Rides like a dream and is the only bike I have and won't be putting pegs on. All in all, anything from Doug's list should satisfy a mid-level rider.
I remember when mongoose wasn't a walmart brand, and everyone wanted one. One kid in the neighborhood had a $350 mongoose bike and all the kids wondered why his parents spent so much. So probably like an $800 bike nowadays
The kink whip is 339 right now at dans.. my favorite bike has been the l500 the legion That's the Best Buy the Chrome one is 500 but they have a black one that's like 428..oh the kink is the xl for 339 wow that is a steal omg
Another shout out....awesome lol. If I was going to get the Letum, I'd probably do the red fade as well. But I'm going with the Switch because of the colors and comes with pretty decent parts. However, my son likes the Letum. So I'll let him ride my Switch and if bmx is something he'd be serious about, I'll get him a Letum.
I’m 12 and about 5 foot and bigger rider I have the budget of 700$ and I’m looking for street bike but I need something on the lighter side what would you guys recommend
Nice video. Except you said, "the Letum is the best street bike". You should be jailed for that. Lol. The best street complete is without a doubt WTP Battleship. After market frame and forks and 100% full pro parts package. Only street bike that I can think of can be 2nd place is the Sunday Street Sweeper. Still, I like your list for those of us on a budget.
I was going to say the same,Battleship is out of most ppls pockets Doughster List is about the cheapest and best quality you can get..That's like saying if you want to save weight get a Ti frame c'mon man be reasonable
@@motosapien2310 It's actually not as impossible as you think getting a high end complete. Instead of rushing out and buying something so so that will break, then you have to spend more and get another frame or whatever else. You end up spending more down the road. Discipline yourself and save longer and you get the EXACT bike you want. I knew a 14 year old that got a Battleship last year doing that. He mowed lawns and did other odd jobs. I am a 100% believer that there is ALWAYS a way for those that look for it. Ambition counts. I remember being a kid. My parents didn't always have extra money to buy me what I wanted. I would save birthday money, Christmas and work doing odd jobs to sometimes buy me R.C cars, video games or whatever else. So I don't it pay attention when people say, "oh I'll never be able to buy this or that". Your last comment about "being reasonable". If people were "reasonable", then the car, airplane, etc wouldn't have never existed. Think about that for a minute,
I have got to get me a new bike. My old diamondback weighs almost 34 lbs with no pegs lol yikes.. coming from that I think I’ll enjoy a more modern bike in the 25-26lb range
I had the Kink Williams before it was stolen and man i loved that bike more than anything it was a dream to ride coming from a used beat up verde cadet that i put way too much money into. Would 100% buy another one if i had the money
Getting back into riding after many years (80’s)just messing around stuff . Just got a new crome dk hellio 24” for $500 and some change on sale , salesman said it had full cromoly parts, etc . Is it a decent bike or did I get screwed
I wasn't aware that Mongoose was now a 'Walmart brand' until recently. Back in the 70's and 80's, Mongoose was one of the dopest bikes a kid could plant his ass on. I moved on to Dyno's in the later 80's but I had a lot of good memories on a Mongoose. I didn't even step foot into a Walmart until I was like 30 because we didn't have any Walmart's in NYC. Unfortunately I left all my bikes and frames in my father's garage when I moved and the son of a bitch sold them for vodka money.
I just picked up the 2022 whip because of your review...changed out pedals , changed out stem , cut bars , cut seat post.. Got Ti nuts on front and back wheels , changed tires to demolition momentum...bike weighs 25.5 now. Much better ride.
when I was young, here in Australia the top bike brands were mongoose,torqer,bully,haro and Hoffman, if you didn't have one of those you were a loser and laughed off the trails or out of the park 😆
Hi Dougsterbob, I just sent you a request for a free bmx bike recommendation. I've been looking for a bmx (street/ park) use. What do you recommend? I'm 6'3" and I want a bmx with the strongest frame and components possible. Price is not really an issue to me, but I'm not looking to spent $1500 either. Thanks for your help.
You know why I don’t trust Mongoose? Even their pro riders don’t ride actual Mongoose frames. They’re all riding custom made Laird Frame’s. If your best people won’t ride your product, why would I?
Fuzzy Hall used to ride them through and through without an issue. The L100 and L500 models are a reasonable offering from Mongoose. I just find the geometry a little off on them.
want a good bmx bike? Never buy cult. thats how i roll. i broken so many cult parts with beginner to mid level tricks. Also you literaly forgot the best bmx brand which is Wethepeople. I rather have a Wethepeople than a subrosa, kink, cult or mongoose.
So generally aftermarket chromoly is heat treated, sometimes butted tubing, and made from sanko chromoly which is better quality and more reliable. The after market chromoly parts are just more reliable with better quality manufacturing
@@Dougsterbob that makes sense, thanks. im eyeing up the fiend type A 2022 complete, the frame is listed as "Fiend Embryo Full Chromoly Frame" on source bmx, is this like their way of saying good/trash cromo? forks and bars are listed as the same too
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I won't lie Doug. I have gone to great lengths to avoid your channel. The snow has gotten so depressing,i found you at the end of summer so i have been suffering immensely seeing you grow and post more. I really appreciate your compassion to bmx and helping people get into and or understand it.
same they just built a really nice pump track right next to my house and i road there with freinds every day just made it last year now i cant
every time i buy a bike this dude shoots it down and says the bike brand is trash so im unsubscribing
So many things to consider these days buying a bike, was so much easier back in the old days.
Thanks for your guidance.
I have a 2021 Kink Whip XL and it’s been doing well on the trails. I have added a odyssey 1999 front brakes, rant rims front and rear, odyssey 28T La Guardia front sprocket, and maxxis maxxDaddy tires.
12 year old me had a Mongoose Hoop-D that I got at Walmart in like 1998 for I think $150 when my Diamondback was stolen. If not for Mongoose I wouldn't have been able to afford another BMX bike. Mongoose holds a special place in my heart. I bent the forks and flipped over the bars at the park when I clipped my front wheel but 12 year old me was able to bend them back into shape.
Same I had a redline got stolen at the liquor store and bought a mongoose at Walmart. Circa 2011
The effort you put in the videos is the best!! I really appreciate you for that!
Thanks man. Was thinking about going with the Cult Devotion. You’ve gotta admit, it’s easily the best looking bike on the list.
i'm so glad i did your bike recommendation and got the Kink Whip
Hard to fault that list. Doug's really built a great formula to break a bike down from a variety of angles for comparison. Personally, I think the Colony Premise trumps everything on that list but it's also a much more expensive bike over there in the US. Here (in Australia) a 2012 Whip costs AU$800 and while a Premise's RRP is AU$1100, you can get them as low as $680 (I paid $798), which is quite a bit cheaper than the Whip and features a far better fork and front hub. I picked up a near-new Devotion frame and stem just recently and built it up with a Wasp wheelset and the spline-drive Fiend sprocket I was going on about in Doug's live stream a week ago. Rides like a dream and is the only bike I have and won't be putting pegs on. All in all, anything from Doug's list should satisfy a mid-level rider.
I don't remember seeing Mongoose being sold at walmart until the late 90's.
I remember when mongoose wasn't a walmart brand, and everyone wanted one. One kid in the neighborhood had a $350 mongoose bike and all the kids wondered why his parents spent so much. So probably like an $800 bike nowadays
thanks mate , my 11 year old son just starting and your vids are great thank you
Thanks, went with the Subrosa Letum 2022.. pretty new to BMX
The kink whip is 339 right now at dans.. my favorite bike has been the l500 the legion That's the Best Buy the Chrome one is 500 but they have a black one that's like 428..oh the kink is the xl for 339 wow that is a steal omg
Cult control or kink switch which is better overall for freestyle tricks. Thanks for sending that info on the sizes.
The switch is better quality and comes with pegs and freecoaster. I think the switch is a better bike for you
@@Dougsterbob Thanks for the help.
I have a 2022 Kink Switch and love it!
Thanks For making me choose the right bike and I have to go with the kink whip
Just found this channel and I'm really glad I did. 👌👌👌
Went with the Kink Switch 2022 thanks to your info. 😎
Another shout out....awesome lol. If I was going to get the Letum, I'd probably do the red fade as well. But I'm going with the Switch because of the colors and comes with pretty decent parts. However, my son likes the Letum. So I'll let him ride my Switch and if bmx is something he'd be serious about, I'll get him a Letum.
I’m 12 and about 5 foot and bigger rider I have the budget of 700$ and I’m looking for street bike but I need something on the lighter side what would you guys recommend
I have the malum got it from albe’s it’s really good.
how about WTP reason? I'm planning to buy that.
Nice video. Except you said, "the Letum is the best street bike". You should be jailed for that. Lol. The best street complete is without a doubt WTP Battleship. After market frame and forks and 100% full pro parts package. Only street bike that I can think of can be 2nd place is the Sunday Street Sweeper. Still, I like your list for those of us on a budget.
As a 2020 Battleship complete owner, I agree with you but it's also in a whole other category due to its far more expensive cost.
I was going to say the same,Battleship is out of most ppls pockets Doughster List is about the cheapest and best quality you can get..That's like saying if you want to save weight get a Ti frame c'mon man be reasonable
@@motosapien2310 It's actually not as impossible as you think getting a high end complete. Instead of rushing out and buying something so so that will break, then you have to spend more and get another frame or whatever else. You end up spending more down the road. Discipline yourself and save longer and you get the EXACT bike you want.
I knew a 14 year old that got a Battleship last year doing that. He mowed lawns and did other odd jobs. I am a 100% believer that there is ALWAYS a way for those that look for it. Ambition counts. I remember being a kid.
My parents didn't always have extra money to buy me what I wanted. I would save birthday money, Christmas and work doing odd jobs to sometimes buy me R.C cars, video games or whatever else. So I don't it pay attention when people say, "oh I'll never be able to buy this or that".
Your last comment about "being reasonable". If people were "reasonable", then the car, airplane, etc wouldn't have never existed. Think about that for a minute,
You can get all 4 hub guards, the right one for the hubs, directly from Cult for about $20 plus shipping
When they're in stock at least
I have got to get me a new bike. My old diamondback weighs almost 34 lbs with no pegs lol yikes.. coming from that I think I’ll enjoy a more modern bike in the 25-26lb range
The subrosa letum would be an easy choice if the colours were better. Definitely not a fan of the red.
Great video doug
Thank you my friend!
I had the Kink Williams before it was stolen and man i loved that bike more than anything it was a dream to ride coming from a used beat up verde cadet that i put way too much money into. Would 100% buy another one if i had the money
Theft sucks👎😪
Man, I hate to hear that. You'll get the money and get another one soon.
Getting back into riding after many years (80’s)just messing around stuff . Just got a new crome dk hellio 24” for $500 and some change on sale , salesman said it had full cromoly parts, etc . Is it a decent bike or did I get screwed
Cult juvenile 18 for an 8 year old ?
Is the aluminum strong enough ?
I assume so
Like the weight vs the kink
Kink whip.....called it 😂 🤘
Thanks for the review. Great information. I actually have s subrosa letum and I really like it.
Good choice!!
@@Dougsterbob thanks
@@Dougsterbob appreciate your videos alot of good information 👍🏼
I wasn't aware that Mongoose was now a 'Walmart brand' until recently. Back in the 70's and 80's, Mongoose was one of the dopest bikes a kid could plant his ass on. I moved on to Dyno's in the later 80's but I had a lot of good memories on a Mongoose. I didn't even step foot into a Walmart until I was like 30 because we didn't have any Walmart's in NYC. Unfortunately I left all my bikes and frames in my father's garage when I moved and the son of a bitch sold them for vodka money.
Do you recommend them for beginners?
Hello.
What do you think of the Haro Midway, is it a good option for a medium level?
Thank you, best regards
Just bought the Cult Devotion, ill weigh it and let you know
what about Cult Devotion 26" BMX?
I'm 5' 5" would this bike work for me?
looking for a flatland bike...do they even exist anymore? or do I gotta go used
Is the website u linked where I should get a bike from or from the manufacture
I just picked up the 2022 whip because of your review...changed out pedals , changed out stem , cut bars , cut seat post.. Got Ti nuts on front and back wheels , changed tires to demolition momentum...bike weighs 25.5 now. Much better ride.
Not too expensive to shave off a few pounds huh? Sounds like you make the right choices!!
I did too for christmas yet it got stolen so im getting a cult devotion tamaro for only 350 brand new upgraded
LED light
ABS brakes
LCD display
ATM machine
PIN number
BMX bike
These are redundant abbreviations.
Hey mate, I ride street only and I’ve got a decent budget $800ish. I’m 5”7 what do you recommend?
You got one?
Hey brother! Can you talk about the Stranger Royale Complete 2021???
Honest Opinion Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Where can I get the 2021 kink whip. I cant find it anywhere it’s not even on kinks website
when I was young, here in Australia the top bike brands were mongoose,torqer,bully,haro and Hoffman, if you didn't have one of those you were a loser and laughed off the trails or out of the park 😆
I had a kink gap in high school and cracked the frame lol. Not even riding hard.
what is perfect height for 20.75 in I am 6ft looking into kink switch.
yeah but the quality of the chromoly on the mongoose isn't good bars and forks bends easy and the frame dents easy
my crank snapped on my letum for only having it for 4 days sad :(
What cranks are those?
rant banging
I never got the bike recommendations and got a message saying you only do it once wth
try to open the link in a private browser window
Im 6 foot and just bought the sunday scout 20.75 you think thats okay for me ?
Thanks for being on the live to ask your question!! glad you finally got a bike, i know you've been looking for a while
@@Dougsterbob thanks bro your the best keep up the hard work
Hi Dougsterbob, I just sent you a request for a free bmx bike recommendation. I've been looking for a bmx (street/ park) use. What do you recommend? I'm 6'3" and I want a bmx with the strongest frame and components possible. Price is not really an issue to me, but I'm not looking to spent $1500 either. Thanks for your help.
Did you get the recommendation I sent?! Was it helpful???
@@Dougsterbob Yes, I got the recommendation, thank you, but I decided to go with a 2022 Subrosa Malum 22" bike.
At some point, maybe think abou only noting if the bike DOESN'T have chromolly.
can you convert the cult devotion to LHD ?
If you buy a new lhd hub or wheel
And lhd cranks
@@Dougsterbob Thanlkyou!
You know why I don’t trust Mongoose? Even their pro riders don’t ride actual Mongoose frames. They’re all riding custom made Laird Frame’s. If your best people won’t ride your product, why would I?
Fuzzy Hall used to ride them through and through without an issue. The L100 and L500 models are a reasonable offering from Mongoose. I just find the geometry a little off on them.
@@kirkwickham3336 Dont forget they weight a ton
Mafia super kush is way better now at the price of 199$
want a good bmx bike? Never buy cult. thats how i roll.
i broken so many cult parts with beginner to mid level tricks.
Also you literaly forgot the best bmx brand which is Wethepeople. I rather have a Wethepeople than a subrosa, kink, cult or mongoose.
That GT Fueler ⛽️ Should of been on there for $700🏁
I have a budget of 700 and am very new to bmx but would like a quality bike to last for years to come wich bike should I get Doug?
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is there a difference between "aftermarket chromoly" as you say, and normal chromoly? little bit confused by that statement about the kink whip...
So generally aftermarket chromoly is heat treated, sometimes butted tubing, and made from sanko chromoly which is better quality and more reliable. The after market chromoly parts are just more reliable with better quality manufacturing
@@Dougsterbob that makes sense, thanks. im eyeing up the fiend type A 2022 complete, the frame is listed as "Fiend Embryo Full Chromoly Frame" on source bmx, is this like their way of saying good/trash cromo? forks and bars are listed as the same too