Charlie Goldman said Rocky was the only fighter he ever knew that LOVED to train. Goldman also said when he attempted to take him to complete physical exhaustion Rocky just smiled and refused to take a single break.
Marciano would not accept defeat acording to his childhood friends. He would go out and play baseball with them. After the game they would all go home. Marciano decided staying out, improving speed, power, breathing, doing chin-ups in his backyard. But, he kept it to himself. When and if opportunity ever came, he would be ready. He made himself ready.
BoxRec has officially listed these Rocky Marciano opponents as *'Middleweights'* and *'Light'* heavyweights: Eddie Ross - division *"Middleweight"* Harry Bilazarian - division *"Middleweight"* Ezzard Charles - division *"Light heavy"* Archie Moore - division *"Light heavy"* Harry Matthews - division *"Light heavy"* Harry Haft - division *"Light heavy"* Ted Lowry - division *"Light heavy"* Willis Applegate - division *"Light heavy"* Bob Jefferson - division *"Light heavy"* *Marciano's small era was a huge contributing factor towards the "Cruiserweight" division being created. There comes a point the size disparity becomes a bridge too far even for outstanding smaller boxers. Besides shouldn't one have to beat credible 200+lbs Heavyweight opponents to be respected as a legitimate Heavyweight champion?*
*Little Ross and little Bilazarian were career middleweights. Little Matthews was a career middleweight and light heavyweight. Little Moore was a career middleweight and light heavyweight. Little light heavyweight Bivins was only 5' 8". Little Haft was a career middleweight and light heavyweight. Little Lowry, little Applegate and little Jefferson were career light heavyweights. Little low-power light heavyweight Charles only weighed 181 when he won his Huge Heavyweight title and little Rocky only weighed 184 when he won his Huge Heavyweight title. I'm sorry but I just don't get it? What's the debate about? How to make little Rocky and his little division bigger?*
*Louis, Walcott, Charles, Moore already had "'409"' fights (Louis 68 Walcott 68 Charles 95 Moore 178) and they'd already been fighting pro for "'74"' years (Louis 17 Walcott 22 Charles 15 Moore 20) before they faced Rocky. There's nothing honorable here. Little Rocky never fought One Prime Topnotch Genuine 200+lbs Heavyweight.*
*There are many Heavyweight Champions that are C-LEVEL similar to Leon Spinks. Low-Power C-LEVEL Journeyman Walcott is more famous for his losses than his wins. He lost 5 out of 6 times and when he finally did win his Vacant Paper title it was against a low-power 182 lb guy who had ALS.*
What a great philosophy very well spoken Rocky's nose sliced in half and said "I gotta get this guy" doesn't even think of stopping and wins. Today the fighters would call the fight. But not the Rock.
The man was a machine, quite possibly the best conditioned fighter ever, he had supreme stamina, endurance, heart, never stopped pressing the fight, always kept going even when being hit with everything his opponent could throw at him....only hot the canvas twice. His main fault was being a notoriously slow starter but even st that he would throw around 80 punches a round every round, opoonents where smothered in punches, arm bones broken, teeth sheered off at the hups, even one man in a ten day coma poor carmine Virgo. Of the 49 men he fought 16 where so badly beaten they retired early from boxing...and he remains the legend he deserves to be.. a true gent out of the ring and a monster in it....RIP Rocky....
What an inspiring story. Gonna have to books at my local libraries on him. Based on what you’re saying it goes with the modelo commercial quote of it doesn’t matter where you come from it’s what you’re made of. I think Enson Inoue put it best that everyone has that Yamatadoshi in them which translates to warrior spirit they just gotta find it within them.
That’s awesome, love that quote! Yeah, Marciano is an inspiring dude. You might like this book called “Life in the Ring.” Each chapter is a new fighter and a new life lesson.
While a man that knew his limits are the honest,and simple ones,the one that never gives up,who was always in denial of his limitations are always at the top,they may get longtime risks in the later future,but they never regretted it, it's always the cost for greatness,some may make it to the top riskless,but most has to wrnt thru blood,sweats,tears to finally achieve greatness and one man was a big example of it, Rocco Francis Marchegiano, Rocky, Marciano.
Nice to see The Rock appreciated for something that cannot be taught--how to deal with adversity. However a few things you said are incorrect about the Charles fight when Rocky's nose was hanging off of his face. It did not go 15 rounds, it went 8. At the end of the 7th round, the injury was so bad the ref wanted to stop the fight, but told Rocky he would give him one more round before stopping the fight. Rocky did it for him with a brutal KO of Ezzard.
Rocky did not with "24 seconds left in the fight" in Charles 2 (the nose injury fight) Rocky knocked out Charles in Round 8 of a scheduled 15 rounder. There was 24 seconds left in the round and you can make a case that they could had stopped the fight after that round because of the injury but Rocky was starting to beat the shit out of Ezzard and it's doubtful that they would have stopped it and just given the champ the benefit of the doubt.
Nobody ever out worked Marciano in the gym. He was always ready to fight the full 15 if necessary. His stamina was superhuman. He could hit you just as hard in the last round as he could in the first.
Rocky's sole, primary preoccupation was getting the leverage to throw the hardest punch possible at all times. It determined how he moved, how he evaded, where he put his feet and how he handled being hit. That obsession with belting the other man as hard as possible meant he wasn't going to be deterred by irrelevancies such as pain. One thing he hated more than anything was missing his opponent. He said it sapped his energy. His fists craved contact and everything he did was structured around making that happen. That's why his fighting style was considered unique. David Tua used to fight the same way. He looked different, but he had exactly the same preoccupation with simply hitting his opponent as hard as possible, as often as possible, until he fell. And he was never once hurt.
I sometimes think we overstate his initial awkwardness and his diminutive stature and miss the fact that in some ways he definitely did have some incredible genetics. Somone once shared watching Rocky train on TV throwing rocks and stuff and his dad said that is the closest thing to a Neanderthal man I've ever seen. I think that may've been right. Sure, he was short, but his genetics were fantastic in other ways like a Neanderthal. Lou Duva said he couldn't get Rocky to rest. He had to just give up let him do it his way. Rocky is the only fighter I've ever seen who had pace, volume and power. Rocky was beating people with pace and power plus that insane dipping back crouch. I can't imagine the condition his legs had to be in. I wish a new generation would take a closer look at this guy. There's a lot more to him than the myths. He's one guy where his myth actually undersells how tremendous he really was.
Grossly undersized for a heavyweight, small hands, no reach, flat footed, and started boxing at 24 years old yet he became the champion and finished his career 49-0. This is one of the greatest examples of hard work, grit, and determination. It also reminds me of just how spoiled and soft our society has become. We rarely see men like this anymore. Sheer greatness.
@@jjones9822 Hard work, determination courage? It was the 50s, ALL white people benefited and benefit from a racist society, Marciano was and is very favored. Imagine how difficult it was for Johnson, Ali and Louis to become what they were.
@@carloshenriquethomaz2578your statement makes no sense lol. You named people way before and then after him 😂 also he knocked out an aged Louis with only 2 years of training. Only racist one is you here bud. Good luck with that 😅
The Marciano Tapes #6 @3:40 Marciano confesses Carmine Vingo hit the back of his head on the plywood flooring. He said, "it so happened that Vingo hit his head on the flooring, and it sent him unconscious. He was paralyzed a little bit in his fingers and hands. There was a change in the ruling, from then on padding was put on the ring of the flooring." Rocky's manager Al Weill said the same thing in Marciano's biography 'Unbeaten', "Vingo hit his head on the flooring, then he went unconscious." So after all this time it was the plywood flooring that partially paralyzed Vingo, not Marciano's punch. It's no wonder Vingo said, "I WAS SLAUGHTERED FOR A CROWD" --source: The Saturday Evening Post by Carmine Vingo as told by Seymour Shubin Nobody knows how that particular ring in 1949 was actually constructed at that particular venue. Regardless of the flooring, Vingo "tooth-pick" Bingo was 6' 4" 189 lbs with an abysmal 38% KO's. A closer look at his eighteen opponents: #1) Vingo 188¼ vs Barney Metten 192¾ lbs CAREER 6 wins 3 losses with 44% KO's (F-level). #2) Vingo 187 lbs vs Fred Ramsey 186 lbs CAREER 8 wins 12 losses with 28% KO's (F-level). #3) Vingo 190 lbs vs Earl Turner 198 lbs CAREER 2 wins 21 losses with 0% KO's (F-level). Turners only purpose was padding records. #4) Vingo 190 lbs vs George Washington 187 lbs CAREER 12 wins 33 losses with 17% KO's (F-level). Another paid diver. #5) Vingo 194½ lbs vs Joe Lindsay 182½ lbs CAREER 28 wins 7 losses with 29% KO's (C-level)( "VINGO LOSES" ). #6) Vingo 194 lbs vs Freddie McManus 179½ lbs CAREER 18 wins 19 losses with 7% KO's (F-level). #7) Vingo 197 lbs vs Tommy DiGiorgio 183½ lbs CAREER 9 wins 15 losses with 4% KO's (F-level). #8) Vingo 192 lbs vs Jimmy Walls 189½ lbs CAREER 20 wins 41 losses with 8% KO's (F-level). Another diver. #9) Vingo 189½ lbs vs Tommy DiGiorgio 183½ lbs CAREER 9 wins 15 losses with 4% KO's (F-level). "SECOND TIME" Vingo fights this F-level undercard boxer. Why? #10) Vingo 188 lbs vs Johnny Williams 183 lbs CAREER 2 wins 13 losses with 6% KO's (F-level). This isn't even boxing anymore. It's charity for the homeless. #11) Vingo 188 lbs vs Don Mogard 191¼ lbs CAREER 20 wins 16 losses with 15% KO's (D to F-level). #12) Vingo 195 lbs vs Freddie McManus 178 lbs CAREER 18 wins 19 losses with 7% KO's (F-level). "SECOND TIME" Vingo fights this F-level opponent. Why? #13) Vingo 195 lbs vs Ernie Conyer 191½ lbs CAREER 5 wins 9 losses with 21% KO's (F-level). #14) Vingo 185 lbs vs Ernie Conyer 187½ lbs CAREER 5 wins 9 losses with 21% KO's (F-level). "SECOND TIME" Vingo fights this F-level opponent. Why? #15) Vingo 188½ lbs vs Joe Modzele 183 lbs CAREER 18 wins 8 losses with 26% KO's (D to F-level). Light heavyweights moonlighting as Heavyweights were dime a dozen back then. #16) Vingo 192½ lbs vs George Washington 189 lbs CAREER 12 wins 33 losses (F-level). "SECOND TIME" Vingo fights this F-level diver. VINGO FOUGHT "FOUR" (4) OPPONENTS "TWICE" WITHIN 16 BOUTS. Why? #17) Vingo 193 lbs vs Al Robinson 193 lbs CAREER 0 wins 5 losses with 0% KO's (F-level). Vingo actually fights a debuting amateur just before he faces Rocky. Why? This isn't even funny anymore. #18) Vingo 189 lbs vs Rocky Marciano 180¼ lbs CAREER 49 wins 0 losses with 87.76% KO's (A-level). Vingo was completely outclassed and never had a chance from the get-go. I saw their Getty Museum pics and Marciano didn't have a single mark on his face, and his eyes were wide open and clear. What they did to Carmine was a travesty! *THE WORST PREDETERMINED 16-2 BOXING RESUME OF ALL TIME All this time i was mislead into believing that Vingo was this twenty year old superstar being prepped to become the next Heavyweight champ. Instead he was prepped for "SLAUGHTER JUST TO PLEASE A CROWD" --Carmine Vingo [ Sad part is little Marciano fights at least 40 of these homeless F-level walk-ins who were simply fightin for room and board ]
The great white hope Marciano battered Don Cockell, another light heavyweight masquerading as a Heavyweight. Rock was the biggest phony ever, how in the hell could boxing allow such deceit, they must legitimize his legacy so they brought out of retirement an OLD
Vingo was tough. The old fighters from the 50s fought for peanuts. They had to fight often to put food on the table. They were a lot tougher than today's fighters. Vingo would have been a Champion against today's lazy fighters.
@@sherom Oh how sad. Little little little Rocky. *TWO HUNDRED EIGHTY SEVEN (287) POUND ZHANG and TWO HUNDRED SEVENTY FIVE (275) POUND NGANNOU vs. little (184) pound cruiser Rocky Marciano LOL*
Southpaw Usyk is actually bigger than Ali. Joshua came in at 240 lbs, only an 18 lb weight advantage over a comfortable 222 lb Usyk who is 6' 3" with 78" reach. Holyfield was 6' 2.5" 218 lbs with 78" reach. Michael Spinks was 6' 2.5" 208 lbs with 76" reach. Prime Clay/Ali was 6' 2.5" (passport) 212 lbs with 78" reach. And of course we mustn't forget 5'10" 185 lb Marciano with his extraordinarily shortest-ever 67" flyweight reach. Shocking isn't it. Those other small guys weren't so small after all. They already had the natural height and reach so they were able to assimilate into the Heavyweight division with few problems. On the other hand little 185 lb Marciano had some serious dwarfism problems going on with his reach. Simply put Marciano's bone structure was too short to assimilate effectively.
You white Marciano fan boys make me laugh. Rocky was too small for dozens of proven authentic Super Heavyweights. Fury jabs him into oblivion. Heck, Fury can land 4 or 5 jabs a round and win the round. And how does Rocky reach Fury with the extreme height-reach difference, and Fury's foot speed?
We will never see 185 lb champions Marciano, Charles, and Patterson again. I'm sure that light heavyweight era during the 1950s following world war II was neat to watch 175 lb heavyweights fighting, but fantasyland had to end. Authentic (not fraudulent) Heavyweights started taking over with the arrival of Lewis and Bowe during the 90s
During the deepest era in light heavyweight history Gold Medalist Undisputed Undefeated HOF ATG GOAT Michael Spinks beat Eddie Mustafa Muhammad and Dwight Muhammad Qawi and knocked out Yaqui Lopes and Marvin Johnson, which was not easy to do in their primes. And he beat the real heavyweight champion to win the title, who was also undefeated. Michael Spinks is the most accomplished light heavyweight in history. Light heavyweight Charles Lost (25) times and was KOd (7) times. Light heavyweight Moore Lost (23) times and was KOd (7) times. Then why is Charles and Moore ranked higher than Spinks at light heavyweight? Because they fought little Marciano which automatically makes them immortal, even though they Lost "FORTY-EIGHT" times and were "KTFO-FOURTEEN" times!
All u white Marchegiano lovers 💕 adore Rocco's high work-rate, but 6'2" 240 lb Ibeabuchi threw more punches than tiny penguin 🐧 arms Marchegiano could have imagined. Little Rocco would have been an absolute embarrassment fightin proven authentic Super Heavyweights.
Rocky Marciano should be permanently removed from all record books. Or an asterisk (*) placed before their name meaning *Cruiserweight. Eventually it's gonna happen, mark my words.
BoxRec has officially listed these Rocky Marciano opponents as middleweights and light heavyweights: Eddie Ross - division "Middleweight" Harry Bilazarian - division "Middleweight" Ezzard Charles - division "Light heavy" Archie Moore - division "Light heavy" Harry Matthews - division "Light heavy" Harry Haft - division "Light heavy" Ted Lowry - division "Light heavy" Willis Applegate - division "Light heavy" Bob Jefferson - division "Light heavy" Shouldn't one have to beat credible Heavyweight opponents to be respected as a legitimate Heavyweight champion? Did the Klitschko brothers have the luxury of fightin middleweights and light heavyweights? Does King Fury have the luxury of fightin middleweights and light heavyweights? Marciano's extra-small era was a huge contributing factor towards the "cruiserweight" division being created. There comes a point the size disparity becomes a bridge too far even for outstanding smaller boxers. Little Rocky was only 31 when he up-n "QUIT" during his prime. He only fought a measly 7 years while everyone else was fightin 20 years!!! Many heavyweights coulda retired undefeated if they'd-a "QUIT" after only 7 years!!! Had he kept fightin he woulda faced the likes of Patterson, Machen, Johansson, Folley, Liston, Jones, Clay, Terrell, Cleveland and Chuvalo just to name a few. What Marciano did to his family is unforgivable. During his retirement speech and his appearance on the Ed Sullivan show he said, "I want to spend more time with my family." That's not True. It was all a lie. He immediately abandoned his kids and wife to sleep with thousands then left them penniless--@ 1993/08/23 THE ROCK - Sports Illustrated Vault | SI
You say many heavyweights could have retired undefeated if they would have quit after 7 years. Go ahead and name them then. Unless you are lying. AGAIN. You have a habit of doing exactly that. And, FYI. you are shorting Rocky 1 year. Marciano had an 8 year professional career.
For a long time (decades) I have been researching, watching videos, reading experts, comments from fans and enthusiasts of combat sports and martial arts, I was particularly interested in boxing. I believe (I hope I'm wrong, as it would be terrible if it were true) that Rocky Marciano is overestimated by the vast majority of people, all the qualities attributed to Marciano, other boxers also had and are not recognized. Not even half of the praise given to Marciano is attributed to fighters such as: Jack Johnson, Joe Louis, Joe Frazier ,George Foreman,Max Baer,Max Schmeling,Lennox Lewis,Larry Holmes, Klitschko brothers and even Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield,Sonny Liston and Floyd Patterson, many of those I mentioned had physical, moral and psychological qualities.Rocky Marciano was not the Superman neither inside nor outside. I think you are wrong in saying that many people do not have the moral and psychological qualities that Rocky Marciano had, I know many people, incredible human beings who are kind, resilient, courageous and determined, some are known , most are anonymous, and don't have 1% of the fame, money, status that Rocky had and still has. I hope that people are recognized, admired and analyzed fairly especially boxing athletes, who are incredible, without caring with ethnicity, nationality, skin color, religion or sexual orientation, etc. Giving credit to people who don't have it is unfair and dishonest, you take away the value of the fighter himself, of other good fighters and you also devalue yourself as a human being.
Name "ONE" top-notch prime 200+lb Heavyweight he fought? The answer would be ""ZERO"". Shouldn't one have to fight genuine Heavyweights inorder to be considered an ATG at Heavyweight? His two best opponents Charles and Moore were light heavyweights NOT Heavyweights. Correct?
You white people should know the truth about Rocky, he was homosexual. Sorry if that hurts, but it shouldn't. He had to stay in the closet, it was just the way of the times. Today people like Rocky and me don't have to be embarrassed or feel ashamed. When I came out it was like taking a huge weight off of my shoulders. But don't wait like I did, I have a wife and kid that I would never had if I had not succumbed to the pressure of trying to act normal. I love Margot, but I'm not in love with her, and she understands, we stay together for our daughter. All three of us share the much of the same clothes, make-up, and interests. We're a pretty happy family. I still post with my alter egos Sophia, Corina, and Scarlett, it's just a fun escape I have.
Everybody knows who you are David. Nobody has to ask. Have you checked out the message over on 'The hardest man'? It refers to one of 'Legend of Boxing's' videos. The uploader knows who you are, and there are not even any 'black David Frost' comments on the video. You are very renown as bDF.
Rocky's numbers may not lie, but numbers minus context can easily lead to distortion. So let's examine those 13 opponents (not in order) that he supposedly "Forced-into-Retirement" instantaneously: #1) Amateur Lee Epperson - 0 wins 0 losses. Shameful to even count this as a "Forced-Retirement." Retired from what? He never even had a career. Epperson was probably 15 years old like Walcott & Moore were when they first started. #2) Amateur Jimmy Weeks - 0 wins 0 losses. Embarrassing to count this as "Forced-Retirement." Probably another 15 year old. #3) Amateur John Edwards - 1 win 1 loss. Y'all gonna count this as a "Forced Retirement" also? #4) We factually know that ring-worn-n-washed Joe Louis only came back because the IRS-FORCED him to. As soon as IRS took Joe's purse for fightin Rocky he was finally outta there for good!!! #5) Walcott only returned for Marciano-2 for another easy $250K. Walcott received the lions share both fights. Had Walcott continued fightin he would have only received a fraction of that. $250K back then is $2.6 million today. Rocky never "Forced-Retirement" upon Walcott,, he "QUIT"!!! #6) Lee Savold age was 36 with 153 bouts. His manager, Bill Daily, asked referee Pete Tomasso to stop the uneven match at the end of the sixth round. "The will was there but not the body," said Daily. "I'm going to advise Lee to retire Tomorrow." Lee didn't even throw a punch, he just stood there like a heavy punching bag. Completely washed Savold was only there for his last Big-Paycheck!!! #7) Humphrey "The-Bum" Jackson - 4 wins 2 losses with 28% KO's (D to F-level). Jackson never beat a winning fighter. It only took 0:34 seconds for Jackson to be KO'd in his first fight, and 1:28 in his last fight. The less said about "The-Bum" the better. #8) Jimmy Evans - 18 wins 8 losses with 50% KO's looks okay until you see he fought 10 opponents with 10 fights or less. Evans weighed 178 lbs. Too many light heavyweights. #9) Harry Haft - 12 wins 8 losses with 35% KO's (D-level). Harry was only 5' 9" 174 lbs. I thought this was the Heavyweight division? #10) Gino Buonvino - 24 wins 15 losses with 10% KO's (D-level). Marciano fights Buonvino "TWICE", why? #11) Eldridge Eatman - 22 wins 21 losses with 22% KO's (F-level). Marciano fought Eatman who had just lost 8 of his last 9 fights. Rocky's handlers were afraid to put him in with anyone decent after coming so close to losing against LaStarza. ("Eatman proved no opposition for Marciano", according to the Providence Journal, "Marciano hit Eatman with a right in the 3rd round, and Eatman went down though it didn't appear he was hit"--written by BoxRec.)--Eatman obviously took-a-dive. #12) Pete Louthis was 32-13-5 with 35% KO's (F-level). Pete fought amateur Willie James with a 0-0-0 debut record only 2 fights before facing Marciano. Pete fought 10 amateurs with 0-0-0 debut records. For Pete's sake he also fought another 20 opponents that had 10 or less fights. Pete's profession was padding records. #13) Carmine Vingo -- 16 wins 2 losses with 38% KO's looks good until you see ALL 16 wins came against F-LEVEL opponents. The Marciano Tapes #6 @3:40 Marciano confesses Carmine Vingo hit the back of his head on the plywood flooring. He said, "it so happened that Vingo hit his head on the flooring, and it sent him unconscious. He was paralyzed a little bit in his fingers and hands. There was a change in the ruling, from then on padding was put on the ring of the flooring." So after all this time it was the plywood flooring that partially paralyzed Vingo, not Marciano's punch. It appears little Rocky didn't "Force-Retire" any of these boxers. Overwhelming majority of his supposed 43 KO's were referees stopping his fights prematurely and homeless walk-ins takin dives and paddin records for $$$.
The great white hope Marciano battered Don Cockell, another light heavyweight masquerading as a Heavyweight. Rock was the biggest phony ever, how in the hell could boxing allow such deceit, they must legitimize his legacy so they brought out of retirement an OLD, RETIRED, AND COMPLETELY BROKE, JOE LOUIS
All you guys posting that “little” Marciano never beat a true heavyweight need to watch a video on you tube wherein Muhammad Ali basically admitted he was very uncertain if he could have won and that maybe he (Ali) could have been knocked out by Rocky. Keep in mind that Ali was still young Cassius Clay when he did the exhibition match with 45 year old Marciano. He said that his arms were soar the next day and it hurt to even lift them given the power of the punches Marciano landed on his arms. But also know this: Ali made these comments about Rocky years later after he fought everybody and only lost once to Frazier and once to Norton. Marciano was a freak of nature. The power he generated in his punches was way beyond what a man of his size (5’10” and 188) would ever be expected to do. And his ability to take long pain and keep coming was off the charts - as was his conditioning.
According to Rocky Marciano himself, Muhammad Ali would have won. Rocky said three boxers in his lifetime were a bridge too far for him, a young Joe Louis, Sonny Liston, and Ali. Louis for hand speed and power, Ali for pure speed, and Liston for technical excellence and pure brute strength.
Why didn't little 184lb Rocky come out of retirement at 45 and win the Heavyweight title again like 250lb George Foreman did? Wait a second. Didn't little Rocky fight Ali when he was 45? Yep. Well how'd he look? *"Oh, he was fat and moved slowly like a little turtle wearing a ridiculous lookin wig-rug toupee"*
The reality is heart and determination can only get you so far when you're sorely lacking in the physical tools the other greats have. Americans love to glamorize the underdog who gets it done in spite of their limitation, just look at the success of Stallone and his Rocky movie franchise, the movie Rudy, Hoosiers, etc. It's interesting how people who experienced watching Marciano in real time don't hold him in the same high regard as folks later on in spite the multitude of great fighters who came on the scene after he quit. There's a lot of mythology with Marciano and a lot of selective memory about his career. He was brilliantly managed to preserve his undefeated record. It is also interesting how the same people who want to consider Rocky the greatest Heavyweight bcz he was undefeated are reluctant to consider Mayweather the greatest pound for pound. Why is that? It's just flat lazy to look at 49-0 and conclude that he must be the best ever. Based on that, then you MUST consider Mayweather the greatest pound for pound fighter of all-time since he's 50-0, right?
40 Marciano opponents: We see their entire "CAREER" record, not a partial record. Seeing a boxers complete resume gives a more accurate evaluation how good, or how bad they are. Professional boxers can easily be evaluated using US school grades A, B, C, D, and F. Lee Epperson - 0 wins 1 loss with 0% KOs (F-level) Jimmy Weeks - 0 wins 1 loss with 0% KOs (F-level) Gilbert Cardone - 0 wins 3 losses with 0% KOs (F-level) John Edwards - 1 win 2 loss with 33% KOs (F-level) Bill Hardeman - 1 win 6 losses with 0% KOs (F-level) Humphrey Jackson - 4 wins 2 losses with 28% KOs (D-level) Harry Haft - 12 wins 8 losses with 35% KOs (D-level) James Connolly - 12 wins 9 losses with 33% KOs (D-level) Harry Bilazarian - 15 wins 12 losses with 35% KOs (D-level) Bob Jefferson - 3 wins 10 losses with 0% KOs (F-level) Harold Mitchell 4 wins 17 losses with 4% KOs (F-level) Gilley Ferron - 4 wins 13 losses with 17% KOs (F-level) Artie Donato - 7 wins 13 losses with 10% KOs (F-level) Johnny Pretzie - 10 wins 13 losses with 33% KOs (D-level) Don Mogard - 20 wins 16 losses with 15% KOs (D to F-level) Pete Louthis - 32 wins 14 losses with 35% KOs (D-level) Tommy DiGiorgio - 9 wins 15 losses with 4% KOs (F-level) Kenne Simmons - 9 wins 22 losses with 12% KOs (F-level) Art Henri -18 wins 29 losses with 18% KOs (F-level) Jimmy Walls - 20 wins 41 losses with 7% KOs (F-level) Ted Lowry - 71 wins 68 losses with 30% KOs (D to F-level) Ted Lowry (twice) - 71 wins 68 losses with 30% KOs (D to F-level) Gino Buonvino - 24 wins 15 losses with 10% KOs (D-level) Gino Buonvino (twice) - 24 wins 15 losses with 10% KOs (D-level) Joe Dominic - 18 wins 12 losses with 33% KOs (D-level) Eldridge Eatman - 22 wins 21 losses with 22% KOs (D to F-level) Willis Applegate -12 wins 16 losses with 13% KOs (F-level) Lee Savold - 104 wins 45 losses with 50% KOs (D-level) Phil Muscato - 56 wins 23 losses with 25% KOs (D-level) Bill Wilson - 56 wins 27 losses with 51% KOs (D-level) Johnny Shkor - 31 wins 19 losses with 42% KOs (D-level) Fred Beshore - 35 wins 17 losses with 24% KOs (D-level) Jimmy Evans - 18 wins 8 losses with 50% KOs looks okay until you see he fought 10 opponents with 10 fights or less. Eddie Ross - 19 wins 5 losses with 72% KOs looks okay until you see he fought 10 debuting amateurs and 7 other opponents with 10 fights or less. Bob Quinn - 20 wins 4 losses with 58% KOs looks okay until you see he fought 13 opponents with 10 fights or less. Bernie Reynolds - 53 wins 13 losses with 49% KOs looks okay until you see he fought 30 opponents with 15 fights or less. Pat Richards - 24 wins 9 losses with 39% KOs looks okay until you see who he fought 20 opponents with 10 fights or less. Carmine Vingo - 16 wins 2 losses with 38% KOs looks good until you see ALL 16 wins came against F-LEVEL opponents. Don Cockell - 66 wins 14 losses with 46% KOs looks okay until you see the majority of his career was at middleweight and light heavyweight. By the time he faced Marciano he was suffering from severe glandular disorders that wreaked havoc with his physique. He was sallow-skinned, fat, and had a nasty boil on his neck. Harry Matthews - 90 wins 7 losses with 58% KOs is a good B-level resume. Problem is he was a natural middleweight moonlighting at light heavyweight. Matthews weighed 130 lbs vs. Joey Parks who also weighed 130. I thought this was the Heavyweight division? Shouldn't one have to beat credible Heavyweight opponents to be respected as a legitimate Heavyweight champion? Even Marciano's best 3 opponents; Walcott-Charles-Moore lost (68) times and were KO'd (20) times. Marciano never faced an elite fighter in his prime. Name one, just one prime elite fighter Marciano beat? Failing to name even one proves my comment rings true. Show me any respected boxing publication or analyst that claims Walcott Charles Moore were in their prime when they fought Marciano? IT'S CLEAR AS DAY WHY HE WENT 49-0...D AND F-LEVEL HOMELESS WALK-IN BOXERS TAKIN-DIVES AND PADDIN RECORDS FOR $$$...NUMBERS DO NOT LIE *In the old days, ringers could boost their income by fighting repeatedly. Padding your record against weak opponents can yield good results- the real stumblebums are the guys who make a career of losing. In small-time fights, the less-talented fighter often gets the bulk of the cash; he is, after all, providing a valuable service by losing so reliably--The Ring Magazine
I walk 2 1/2 miles to work every day , rain or shine ; there is a level of toughness and determination beaten into you when you're a working class guy - that is why no one born rich will ever achieve true greatness : THE PRICE OF COMFORT IS WEAKNESS ! ! !
Marciano fanboys describe him as being so fierce that he basically killed all 49 of his opponents in the ring. Y'all have these Rocky vids so saturated with so much exaggerated hyperbolic nonsense that it's laughable. "Little Marciano was faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive, able to leap tall buildings in a single bound. The Italian infant of Krypton was Superman. He broke 1,247 bones, knocked out 4,679 teeth, and ruptured 792 blood vessels. I also know for a fact that little Rocky is god , because when he walked the earth shook." Don't be so gullible, Marciano only fed on middleweights and light heavyweights moonlighting as Heavyweights. If Marciano was so Powerful why didn't he ever break any bones? He never broke one rib, one nose, one eye-socket, one jaw or detached one retina. Exactly who's bones did he break? WAITING---TIC--TOC--TIC--TOC ..... ""NOBODY""!!!! ""ZERO""!!!! Roland LaStarza with all his supposed "Broken Bones" and "Ruptured Blood Vessels" only had minor surgery, what's the big deal? Y'all act as if both his arms were decapitated. LaStarza simply had tiny miniscule bone-chips removed from his elbow just like David Tua did after his fight with Ibeabuchi. It's a common boxing injury because everyone blocks punches using their forearms and elbows. When Roland left boxing he went on to a very lucrative TV acting career. *(Besides LaStarza said, "I already had elbow problems before i even fought Marciano." I have the article). Here's the newspaper article about Layne's tooth: "Rex Layne lost a left upper tooth..the tooth broke at the gums when Marciano caught the Utahn in the mouth with a full right hand. Layne was taken immediately after the fight to a New York dentist to have the teeth X-rayed and also for treatment on a broken tooth." Layne's handlers said, "the tooth went out with the gumshield." Rex only sustained "ONE" broken tooth! He fought Charles exactly 3 months later, so what's the big deal? Folks break their teeth all the time skateboarding or slippin-n-fallin on the ice. "He punched out almost every tooth in Rex Lyne's mouth and sent his gum guard into the crowd. It take massive power to do that. If Layne was 6'6 240+ it wouldn't of made any difference" --written by Marciano Fanboy 12 years ago.. (exaggerated misinformation at it's finest).
Great white hope Marciano battered Don Cockell, another light heavyweight masquerading as a Heavyweight. Rock was the biggest phony ever, how in the hell could boxing allow such deceit, they must legitimize his legacy so they brought out of retirement an OLD, RETIRED, AND COMPLETELY BROKE, JOE LOUIS, who was like fodder fed to a pitbull, kinda like when they fed Larry Holmes to an angry Mike Tyson, or allowed Ali to be served up to Holmes.
Rocky was actually 5' 9" (1.75 meters), according to Rocky Marciano's biographer John Cameron; his reach was 67" (1.70 meters) incredibly short for Heavyweight; by way of comparison, today's Bantamweights (115-118 lbs) average 67.7"
*(287)* lb Zhang, *(277)* lb Fury, *(272)* lb Ngannou, *(260)* lb Makhmudov vs. little *(184)* lb Rocky. Little *184lb* cruiser Rocky's 49-0 came against *middleweights* and *light heavyweights* moonlighting as Heavyweights. Little Rocky's little era was 3 generations ago and it's *Gone Finished History.*
King Fury would keep little Rocky at arm's length and force him back whenever he felt crowded. He'd jab, turn and flummox him for as long as wanted, and if Fury felt so inclined, he'd walk him down Kronk style and grind out a stoppage. And none of this, "if he can't reach his head he'll go to the body", either. That's just bull****. Fury's lead would keep Marciano too far away as is. Rocky ain't gettin the opportunities to impose his workrate and definitely doesn't hit hard enough to stop him. Fury jabs him into oblivion. Heck, Fury can land 5 or 6 jabs a round and win the round. King Fury wins! Anyway he chooses! Fury is a titan amongst mere mortals. Generations of dna forged to create the perfect Super Heavyweight boxer. I'm grateful to see him in my lifetime. A focused Fury is boxing evolved to it's highest state ever. 277 lbs of brutal jabs, snappy punches, slick head movement, good footwork, granite chin, relaxed stamina and great intelligence. Transport 'The King' back to that little 1950s era and he woulda went 149 wins 0 losses with 100% KO's! [[[[[ 🏋️""SIZE-MATTERS""🏋️ ]]]]] NEVER IN THE HISTORY OF BOXING HAS A 190 LB MAN BEAT AN ELITE SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT BOXING CHAMPION
@@outdoorman37 King Fury would keep little Rocky at arm's length and force him back whenever he felt crowded. He'd jab, turn and flummox him for as long as wanted, and if Fury felt so inclined, he'd walk him down Kronk style and grind out a stoppage. And none of this, "if he can't reach his head he'll go to the body", either. That's just bull****. Fury's lead would keep Marciano too far away as is. Rocky ain't gettin the opportunities to impose his workrate and definitely doesn't hit hard enough to stop him. Fury jabs him into oblivion. Heck, Fury can land 5 or 6 jabs a round and win the round. King Fury wins! Anyway he chooses! Fury is a titan amongst mere mortals. Generations of dna forged to create the perfect Super Heavyweight boxer. I'm grateful to see him in my lifetime. A focused Fury is boxing evolved to it's highest state ever. 277 lbs of brutal jabs, snappy punches, slick head movement, good footwork, granite chin, relaxed stamina and great intelligence. Transport 'The King' back to that little 1950s era and he woulda went 149 wins 0 losses with 100% KO's! [[[[[ 🏋️""SIZE-MATTERS""🏋️ ]]]]] NEVER IN THE HISTORY OF BOXING HAS A 190 LB MAN BEAT AN ELITE SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT BOXING CHAMPION
@@outdoorman37 King Fury would keep little Rocky at arm's length and force him back whenever he felt crowded. He'd jab, turn and flummox him for as long as wanted, and if Fury felt so inclined, he'd walk him down Kronk style and grind out a stoppage. And none of this, "if he can't reach his head he'll go to the body", either. That's just bull****. Fury's lead would keep Marciano too far away as is. Rocky ain't gettin the opportunities to impose his workrate and definitely doesn't hit hard enough to stop him. Fury jabs him into oblivion. Heck, Fury can land 5 or 6 jabs a round and win the round. King Fury wins! Anyway he chooses! Fury is a titan amongst mere mortals. Generations of dna forged to create the perfect Super Heavyweight boxer. I'm grateful to see him in my lifetime. A focused Fury is boxing evolved to it's highest state ever. 277 lbs of brutal jabs, snappy punches, slick head movement, good footwork, granite chin, relaxed stamina and great intelligence. Transport 'The King' back to that little 1950s era and he woulda went 149 wins 0 losses with 100% KO's! [[[[[ 🏋️""SIZE-MATTERS""🏋️ ]]]]] NEVER IN THE HISTORY OF BOXING HAS A 190 LB MAN BEAT AN ELITE SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT BOXING CHAMPION
37 LaStarza opponents: We see their entire "CAREER" record, not a partial record. Seeing a boxers complete resume gives a more accurate evaluation how good, or how bad they are. Professional boxers can easily be evaluated using US school grades A, B, C, D, and F. Marciano 183 lbs 25-0 vs. LaStarza 187 lbs 37-0. Their fight was officially called a draw then later changed to a Split Decision. Jessie Abramson of the New York Daily Herald said, "it was condemned around ringside as a miscarriage of justice." Anyhow here's LaStarza's first 37 D and F-level opponents: #37) Cesar Brion - 49 wins 11 losses with 36% KOs (C-level). Brian's career record looks okay until ya see how many of his wins came against his fellow Argentinians. Walter Hafer - 22 wins 26 losses with 26% KOs (F-level) Joe Dominic - 18 wins 12 losses with 33% KOs (D-level) Jackie Lyons - 32 wins 24 losses with 23% KOs 23% (D-level) Harry Haft - 12 wins 8 losses with 35% KOs (D-level) Jimmy Carollo - 36 wins 17 losses with 16% KOs (D-level) Eldridge Eatman - 22 wins 21 losses with 22% KOs (D-level) Gino Buonvino - 24 wins 15 losses with 10% KOs (D-level) Bill Weinberg - 44 wins 22 losses with 34% KOs (D-level) Gene Gosney - 14 wins 5 losses with 42% KOs (C-minus level) Don Mogard - 20 wins 16 losses with 15% KOs (D-level) Mike Jacobs - 14 wins 16 losses with 12% KOs (D-level) Don Mogard - 20 wins 16 losses with 15% KOs (D-level) Mel McKinney - 8 wins 10 losses with 5% KOs (F-level) Teddy Georges - 0 wins 1 loss with 0% KOs (F-level) Oscar Goode - 43 wins 23 losses with 20% KOs (D-level) Tony Gangemi - 21 wins 18 losses with 26% KOs (D-level) Benny Rusk - 20 wins 17 losses with 27% KOs (D-level) Fred McManus - 18 wins 19 losses with 7% KOs (F-level) John Holloway - 2 wins 11 losses with 15% KOs (F-level) Claude McClintock - 1 win 9 losses with 0% KOs (F-level) Steve King - 21 wins 11 losses with 17% KOs (D-level) Jimmy White - 9 wins 17 losses with 11% KOs (F-level) Frankie Reed - 2 wins 14 losses with 0% KOs (F-level) Mike Belluscio - 15 wins 10 losses with 37% KOs (D-level) Luther McMillan - 13 wins 19 losses with 12% KOs (F-level) Fred Ramsey - 8 wins 12 losses with 28% KOs (F-level) Matt Mincy - 0 wins 11 losses with 0% KOs (F-level) Lorne McCarthy - 2 wins 11 losses with 0% KOs (F-level) Jimmy Evans - 18 wins 8 losses with 50% KOs (D-level) Matt Mincy - 0 wins 11 losses with 0% KOs (F-level) Zeke Brown - 0 wins 10 losses with 0% KOs (F-level) Jim Johnson - 3 wins 22 losses with 7% KOs (F-level) Jimmy Dodd - 8 wins 12 losses with 22% KOs (F-level) Al Zappala - 20 wins 27 losses with 9% KOs (F-level) Zack Johnson - 3 wins 7 losses with 10% KOs (F-level) Dave Glanton - 1 win 13 losses with 7% KOs (F-level) Promoters lookin for a way to get their prizefighters a big payoff will first invest thousands of dollars in padding his numbers against truly horrendous opponents. A guy who’s undefeated at 37-0, for example, might not be any better than a more seasoned boxer with a lousy record--The Ring Magazine I've studied King Fury, Larry Holmes, Lennox Lewis, Klitschko brothers, Muhammad Ali, George Foreman, Ike Ibeabuchi etcetera and little Marciano's division was truly horrendous and dreadfully awful.
@@lsauthor Disregard Black David Frost... He's simply upset because I've used the name "Studentofsweetscience" for 2 years now. He thinks he OWNS that name and it should "ONLY" be used by HIM 😂
Marciano would have knocked out any of the fighters today. His power and conditioning had no equal. Marciano was raised in an era where hard work was instilled at birth. Today's fighters fight for a Title after a dozen fights. Fighters back in the day had dozens of fights in one year. Over a hundred in a career.
Little Marciano didn't win all his fights. His first fight vs. LaStarza was officially called a draw! That is until the mafioso stepped in on Rocky's behalf. We do know factually that Ross, Eatman, and Louthis took-a-dive. Was it for $$$ or were they forced to protect themselves and their families from the same folks that protected Marciano? "Amazing recovery by Eddie Ross after being KO'd by Rocky Marciano the previous day."-(word for word from BoxRec). (It was commonplace to take-dives and pad records during this era). That is correct, in less than 24 hours 170 lb Eddie Ross also fought 160 lb Billy Sparks who had 6 wins 11 losses. Ross also fought 10 amateurs with 0-0-0 debut records! These guys are middleweights fightin as Heavyweights. This division is beyond despicable. Eldridge Eatman was 22-20-5 with an abysmal 22% KO's. "Eatman proved no opposition for Marciano", according to the Providence Journal, "Marciano hit Eatman with a right in the 3rd round, and Eatman went down after that, though it didn't appear he was hit." -(Eatman obviously took-a-dive). The last 9 fights Eatman had leading up to his fight with Marciano he went 1 win 8 losses. Shamefully disturbing. Pete Louthis was 32-13-5 with an abysmal 35% KO's. Pete fought amateur Willie James with a 0-0-0 debut record only 2 fights before facing Marciano. Pete fought 10 amateurs with 0-0-0 debut records! For Pete's sake he also fought another 20 opponents that had 10 or less fights. Pete's profession was padding records. Marciano fought at least 25 different Pete's! This isn't even professional boxing. It's more reminiscent to the Jack Dempsey days when they simply walked-in and took bouts for room and board. Pugilist negotiated payments to throw matches, while others "took a dive" merely to avoid injury and pick up an easy pay cheque. I understand throwing matches also happened before Rocky's time and after Rocky's time. But the 1950s boxing era was the pinnacle for corruption and 100% monopolized. Padding records and taking dives didn't happen once a month, it was the daily norm. It factually happened and cannot ever be swept under the carpet. Remember the National Prohibition of alcohol during the 20s and 30s. Italian Kingpins like Al Capone were able to rack in $100 million each year thanks to the overwhelming business opportunity of illegal booze. The majority of extortion and loansharking criminal gangs were Italian. Lucky Luciano, Johnny Torrio, Al Capone, Vito Genovese, John Gotti, Carlo Gambino, thousands of bosses, underbosses and soldiers etc. It was all Sicilian. The day after Rocco Marchegiano retired he immediately abandoned his kids and wife to sleep with thousands. He also started his loansharking business--(psychosis and other symptoms he suffered)--@ 1993/08/23 THE ROCK - Sports Illustrated Vault | SI Marciano was killed flying to Des Moines to pick up $35 thousand. Problem was he knowingly flew during severe weather with an amateur pilot. Mr Greedy Infidel got what he deserved for what he did to his family.
Rocky Marciano's record is deciving only because he didn't get to fight Sonny Liston ( who would have destroyed Marciano) Their is no way Rocky Marciano could have beaten Liston the same as he couldn't beat George Foreman.Rocky Marciano would retire before he fought Liston . Rocky's record doesn't mean much when he didn't get to fight the best of his generation.
Little Marciano didn't win all his fights. His first fight vs. LaStarza was officially called a draw! That is until the mafioso stepped in on Rocky's behalf. We do know factually that Ross, Eatman, and Louthis took-a-dive. Was it for $$$ or were they forced to protect themselves and their families from the same folks that protected Marciano?
@@surrealistidealist Marciano won his first fight with LaStarza by decision. He knocked him out in their second fight. As for the mafia there is zero evidence that Marciano had any connection whatsoever with them. blackdavid is a well-known Internet racist. Rocky was white and undefeated and that drives racists like him nuts
@@lsauthor He had that incredible drive to be great that very few people have. He would rather have died than end up in the shoe factory where his father worked. The ultimate overachiever.
Da quanto ho potuto leggere e capire..questo Rocky spaccone boy scout italoamericano ..era na pippa! Opperbroocclyn..ecche' successo? Erano tutti di parte o ubriachi fracichi.. O site vuie 'mbriec e/o nun ge capite namazz???😂
He also had such a bad back that at one point he'd have his driver stop the car so he could get out and walk it off. Yes, while he was boxing. Went to multiple doctors about it and the second they suggested surgery he "pivoted on his heel" and walked out.
Name "ONE" top-notch prime 200+lb Heavyweight he fought? The answer would be ""ZERO"". Shouldn't one have to fight genuine Heavyweights inorder to be considered an ATG at Heavyweight? His two best opponents Charles and Moore were light heavyweights NOT Heavyweights. Correct?
Southpaw Usyk is actually bigger than Ali. Joshua came in at 240 lbs, only an 18 lb weight advantage over a comfortable 222 lb Usyk who is 6' 3" with 78" reach. Holyfield was 6' 2.5" 218 lbs with 78" reach. Michael Spinks was 6' 2.5" 208 lbs with 76" reach. Prime Clay/Ali was 6' 2.5" (passport) 212 lbs with 78" reach. And of course we mustn't forget 5'10" 185 lb Marciano with his extraordinarily shortest-ever 67" flyweight reach. Shocking isn't it. Those other small guys weren't so small after all. They already had the natural height and reach so they were able to assimilate into the Heavyweight division with few problems. On the other hand little 185 lb Marciano had some serious dwarfism problems going on with his reach. Simply put Marciano's bone structure was too short to assimilate effectively.
Black David Frost. ROCKY MARCIANO owns the space in your head. You wake up-live your day and evening thinking about ROCKY MARCIANO, You go to sleep thinking about ROCKY MARCIANO. You can’t get ROCKY MARCIANO out of your head. You are simultaneously in ecstasy and tortured by ROCKY MARCIANO. Even your husband is jealous that you’re always thinking of ROCKY MARCIANO. ROCKY MARCIANO is your MASTER. ROCKY MARCIANO IS THE MASTER GOD you pray to.
During the deepest era in light heavyweight history Gold Medalist Undisputed Undefeated HOF ATG GOAT Michael Spinks beat Eddie Mustafa Muhammad and Dwight Muhammad Qawi and knocked out Yaqui Lopes and Marvin Johnson, which was not easy to do in their primes. And he beat the real heavyweight champion to win the title, who was also undefeated. Michael Spinks is the most accomplished light heavyweight in history. Light heavyweight Charles Lost (25) times and was KOd (7) times. Light heavyweight Moore Lost (23) times and was KOd (7) times. Then why is Charles and Moore ranked higher than Spinks at light heavyweight? Because they fought little Marciano which automatically makes them immortal, even though they Lost "FORTY-EIGHT" times and were "KTFO-FOURTEEN" times!
37 LaStarza opponents: We see their entire "CAREER" record, not a partial record. Seeing a boxers complete resume gives a more accurate evaluation how good, or how bad they are. Professional boxers can easily be evaluated using US school grades A, B, C, D, and F. Marciano 183 lbs 25-0 vs. LaStarza 187 lbs 37-0. Their fight was officially called a draw then later changed to a Split Decision. Jessie Abramson of the New York Daily Herald said, "it was condemned around ringside as a miscarriage of justice." Anyhow here's LaStarza's first 37 D and F-level opponents:
#37) Cesar Brion - 49 wins 11 losses with 36% KOs (C-level). Brian's career record looks okay until ya see how many of his wins came against his fellow Argentinians. Walter Hafer - 22 wins 26 losses with 26% KOs (F-level) Joe Dominic - 18 wins 12 losses with 33% KOs (D-level) Jackie Lyons - 32 wins 24 losses with 23% KOs 23% (D-level) Harry Haft - 12 wins 8 losses with 35% KOs (D-level) Jimmy Carollo - 36 wins 17 losses with 16% KOs (D-level) Eldridge Eatman - 22 wins 21 losses with 22% KOs (D-level) Gino Buonvino - 24 wins 15 losses with 10% KOs (D-level) Bill Weinberg - 44 wins 22 losses with 34% KOs (D-level) Gene Gosney - 14 wins 5 losses with 42% KOs (C-minus level) Don Mogard - 20 wins 16 losses with 15% KOs (D-level) Mike Jacobs - 14 wins 16 losses with 12% KOs (D-level) Don Mogard - 20 wins 16 losses with 15% KOs (D-level) Mel McKinney - 8 wins 10 losses with 5% KOs (F-level) Teddy Georges - 0 wins 1 loss with 0% KOs (F-level) Oscar Goode - 43 wins 23 losses with 20% KOs (D-level) Tony Gangemi - 21 wins 18 losses with 26% KOs (D-level) Benny Rusk - 20 wins 17 losses with 27% KOs (D-level) Fred McManus - 18 wins 19 losses with 7% KOs (F-level) John Holloway - 2 wins 11 losses with 15% KOs (F-level) Claude McClintock - 1 win 9 losses with 0% KOs (F-level) Steve King - 21 wins 11 losses with 17% KOs (D-level) Jimmy White - 9 wins 17 losses with 11% KOs (F-level) Frankie Reed - 2 wins 14 losses with 0% KOs (F-level) Mike Belluscio - 15 wins 10 losses with 37% KOs (D-level) Luther McMillan - 13 wins 19 losses with 12% KOs (F-level) Fred Ramsey - 8 wins 12 losses with 28% KOs (F-level) Matt Mincy - 0 wins 11 losses with 0% KOs (F-level) Lorne McCarthy - 2 wins 11 losses with 0% KOs (F-level) Jimmy Evans - 18 wins 8 losses with 50% KOs (D-level) Matt Mincy - 0 wins 11 losses with 0% KOs (F-level) Zeke Brown - 0 wins 10 losses with 0% KOs (F-level) Jim Johnson - 3 wins 22 losses with 7% KOs (F-level) Jimmy Dodd - 8 wins 12 losses with 22% KOs (F-level) Al Zappala - 20 wins 27 losses with 9% KOs (F-level) Zack Johnson - 3 wins 7 losses with 10% KOs (F-level) Dave Glanton - 1 win 13 losses with 7% KOs (F-level) Promoters lookin for a way to get their prizefighters a big payoff will first invest thousands of dollars in padding his numbers against truly horrendous opponents. A guy who’s undefeated at 37-0, for example, might not be any better than a more seasoned boxer with a lousy record--The Ring Magazine I've studied King Fury, Larry Holmes, Lennox Lewis, Klitschko brothers, Muhammad Ali, George Foreman, Ike Ibeabuchi etcetera and little Marciano's division was truly horrendous and dreadfully awful.
Marciano fanboys describe him as being so fierce that he basically killed all 49 of his opponents in the ring. Y'all have these Rocky vids so saturated with so much exaggerated hyperbolic nonsense that it's laughable. "Little Marciano was faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive, able to leap tall buildings in a single bound. The Italian infant of Krypton was Superman. He broke 1,247 bones, knocked out 4,679 teeth, and ruptured 792 blood vessels. I also know for a fact that little Rocky is god , because when he walked the earth shook." Don't be so gullible, Marciano only fed on middleweights and light heavyweights moonlighting as Heavyweights. If Marciano was so Powerful why didn't he ever break any bones? He never broke one rib, one nose, one eye-socket, one jaw or detached one retina. Exactly who's bones did he break? WAITING---TIC--TOC--TIC--TOC ..... ""NOBODY""!!!! ""ZERO""!!!! Roland LaStarza with all his supposed "Broken Bones" and "Ruptured Blood Vessels" only had minor surgery, what's the big deal? Y'all act as if both his arms were decapitated. LaStarza simply had tiny miniscule bone-chips removed from his elbow just like David Tua did after his fight with Ibeabuchi. It's a common boxing injury because everyone blocks punches using their forearms and elbows. When Roland left boxing he went on to a very lucrative TV acting career. *(Besides LaStarza said, "I already had elbow problems before i even fought Marciano." I have the article). Here's the newspaper article about Layne's tooth: "Rex Layne lost a left upper tooth..the tooth broke at the gums when Marciano caught the Utahn in the mouth with a full right hand. Layne was taken immediately after the fight to a New York dentist to have the teeth X-rayed and also for treatment on a broken tooth." Layne's handlers said, "the tooth went out with the gumshield." Rex only sustained "ONE" broken tooth! He fought Charles exactly 3 months later, so what's the big deal? Folks break their teeth all the time skateboarding or slippin-n-fallin on the ice. "He punched out almost every tooth in Rex Lyne's mouth and sent his gum guard into the crowd. It take massive power to do that. If Layne was 6'6 240+ it wouldn't of made any difference" --written by Marciano Fanboy 12 years ago.. (exaggerated misinformation at it's finest).
Charlie Goldman said Rocky was the only fighter he ever knew that LOVED to train. Goldman also said when he attempted to take him to complete physical exhaustion Rocky just smiled and refused to take a single break.
Marciano would not accept defeat acording to his childhood friends. He would go out and play baseball with them. After the game they would all go home. Marciano decided staying out, improving speed, power, breathing, doing chin-ups in his backyard. But, he kept it to himself. When and if opportunity ever came, he would be ready. He made himself ready.
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BoxRec has officially listed these Rocky Marciano opponents as *'Middleweights'* and *'Light'* heavyweights:
Eddie Ross - division *"Middleweight"*
Harry Bilazarian - division *"Middleweight"*
Ezzard Charles - division *"Light heavy"*
Archie Moore - division *"Light heavy"*
Harry Matthews - division *"Light heavy"*
Harry Haft - division *"Light heavy"*
Ted Lowry - division *"Light heavy"*
Willis Applegate - division *"Light heavy"*
Bob Jefferson - division *"Light heavy"*
*Marciano's small era was a huge contributing factor towards the "Cruiserweight" division being created. There comes a point the size disparity becomes a bridge too far even for outstanding smaller boxers. Besides shouldn't one have to beat credible 200+lbs Heavyweight opponents to be respected as a legitimate Heavyweight champion?*
*Little Ross and little Bilazarian were career middleweights. Little Matthews was a career middleweight and light heavyweight. Little Moore was a career middleweight and light heavyweight. Little light heavyweight Bivins was only 5' 8". Little Haft was a career middleweight and light heavyweight. Little Lowry, little Applegate and little Jefferson were career light heavyweights. Little low-power light heavyweight Charles only weighed 181 when he won his Huge Heavyweight title and little Rocky only weighed 184 when he won his Huge Heavyweight title. I'm sorry but I just don't get it? What's the debate about? How to make little Rocky and his little division bigger?*
*Louis, Walcott, Charles, Moore already had "'409"' fights (Louis 68 Walcott 68 Charles 95 Moore 178) and they'd already been fighting pro for "'74"' years (Louis 17 Walcott 22 Charles 15 Moore 20) before they faced Rocky. There's nothing honorable here. Little Rocky never fought One Prime Topnotch Genuine 200+lbs Heavyweight.*
*There are many Heavyweight Champions that are C-LEVEL similar to Leon Spinks. Low-Power C-LEVEL Journeyman Walcott is more famous for his losses than his wins. He lost 5 out of 6 times and when he finally did win his Vacant Paper title it was against a low-power 182 lb guy who had ALS.*
Absolutely love Marciano ! One of the greatest heavyweights!
The man is an absolute legend! Thanks so much for giving the video your time 🥊
What a great philosophy very well spoken Rocky's nose sliced in half and said "I gotta get this guy" doesn't even think of stopping and wins.
Today the fighters would call the fight.
But not the Rock.
The man was a machine, quite possibly the best conditioned fighter ever, he had supreme stamina, endurance, heart, never stopped pressing the fight, always kept going even when being hit with everything his opponent could throw at him....only hot the canvas twice. His main fault was being a notoriously slow starter but even st that he would throw around 80 punches a round every round, opoonents where smothered in punches, arm bones broken, teeth sheered off at the hups, even one man in a ten day coma poor carmine Virgo. Of the 49 men he fought 16 where so badly beaten they retired early from boxing...and he remains the legend he deserves to be.. a true gent out of the ring and a monster in it....RIP Rocky....
Rocky Marciano is the ultimate example of mind over matter.
What an inspiring story. Gonna have to books at my local libraries on him. Based on what you’re saying it goes with the modelo commercial quote of it doesn’t matter where you come from it’s what you’re made of. I think Enson Inoue put it best that everyone has that Yamatadoshi in them which translates to warrior spirit they just gotta find it within them.
That’s awesome, love that quote! Yeah, Marciano is an inspiring dude. You might like this book called “Life in the Ring.” Each chapter is a new fighter and a new life lesson.
Rocky Marciano is the tuffest boxer in history no question about that!
What a great channel, I just found it. Definitely gonna follow. Best regards from Poland
Regally grateful for that man! Glad you enjoyed the video🥊
Like David and Goliath. Goliath was a man of war, outmatched David in every way. But God gave him the victory.
While a man that knew his limits are the honest,and simple ones,the one that never gives up,who was always in denial of his limitations are always at the top,they may get longtime risks in the later future,but they never regretted it, it's always the cost for greatness,some may make it to the top riskless,but most has to wrnt thru blood,sweats,tears to finally achieve greatness and one man was a big example of it, Rocco Francis Marchegiano, Rocky, Marciano.
Thanks for spreading the word.
Very nicely done💯
Nice to see The Rock appreciated for something that cannot be taught--how to deal with adversity. However a few things you said are incorrect about the Charles fight when Rocky's nose was hanging off of his face. It did not go 15 rounds, it went 8. At the end of the 7th round, the injury was so bad the ref wanted to stop the fight, but told Rocky he would give him one more round before stopping the fight. Rocky did it for him with a brutal KO of Ezzard.
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Rocky did not with "24 seconds left in the fight" in Charles 2 (the nose injury fight) Rocky knocked out Charles in Round 8 of a scheduled 15 rounder. There was 24 seconds left in the round and you can make a case that they could had stopped the fight after that round because of the injury but Rocky was starting to beat the shit out of Ezzard and it's doubtful that they would have stopped it and just given the champ the benefit of the doubt.
Excellent insight. Thanks. 🥊
Nobody ever out worked Marciano in the gym. He was always ready to fight the full 15 if necessary. His stamina was superhuman. He could hit you just as hard in the last round as he could in the first.
Rocky's sole, primary preoccupation was getting the leverage to throw the hardest punch possible at all times. It determined how he moved, how he evaded, where he put his feet and how he handled being hit. That obsession with belting the other man as hard as possible meant he wasn't going to be deterred by irrelevancies such as pain. One thing he hated more than anything was missing his opponent. He said it sapped his energy. His fists craved contact and everything he did was structured around making that happen. That's why his fighting style was considered unique. David Tua used to fight the same way. He looked different, but he had exactly the same preoccupation with simply hitting his opponent as hard as possible, as often as possible, until he fell. And he was never once hurt.
Dude, that was awesome! Thanks for the informative comment🥊 I loved that breakdown!
Just commenting for the algorithm, nice video and a good message.
Greatly appreciate that, made my day. Thank you, brother. I’m glad you dig the video🥊
I sometimes think we overstate his initial awkwardness and his diminutive stature and miss the fact that in some ways he definitely did have some incredible genetics. Somone once shared watching Rocky train on TV throwing rocks and stuff and his dad said that is the closest thing to a Neanderthal man I've ever seen. I think that may've been right. Sure, he was short, but his genetics were fantastic in other ways like a Neanderthal. Lou Duva said he couldn't get Rocky to rest. He had to just give up let him do it his way. Rocky is the only fighter I've ever seen who had pace, volume and power. Rocky was beating people with pace and power plus that insane dipping back crouch. I can't imagine the condition his legs had to be in. I wish a new generation would take a closer look at this guy. There's a lot more to him than the myths. He's one guy where his myth actually undersells how tremendous he really was.
Grossly undersized for a heavyweight, small hands, no reach, flat footed, and started boxing at 24 years old yet he became the champion and finished his career 49-0.
This is one of the greatest examples of hard work, grit, and determination.
It also reminds me of just how spoiled and soft our society has become. We rarely see men like this anymore. Sheer greatness.
@@jjones9822 Hard work, determination courage? It was the 50s, ALL white people benefited and benefit from a racist society, Marciano was and is very favored. Imagine how difficult it was for Johnson, Ali and Louis to become what they were.
His power is overrated, in a lot of his fights he got a KO in the last minute
@@carloshenriquethomaz2578your statement makes no sense lol. You named people way before and then after him 😂 also he knocked out an aged Louis with only 2 years of training. Only racist one is you here bud. Good luck with that 😅
@@San-oe1xvthat ever more impressive that he could ko you in the first or last round. Monster power!!!!
The Marciano Tapes #6 @3:40 Marciano confesses Carmine Vingo hit the back of his head on the plywood flooring. He said, "it so happened that Vingo hit his head on the flooring, and it sent him unconscious. He was paralyzed a little bit in his fingers and hands. There was a change in the ruling, from then on padding was put on the ring of the flooring." Rocky's manager Al Weill said the same thing in Marciano's biography 'Unbeaten', "Vingo hit his head on the flooring, then he went unconscious."
So after all this time it was the plywood flooring that partially paralyzed Vingo, not Marciano's punch. It's no wonder Vingo said, "I WAS SLAUGHTERED FOR A CROWD" --source: The Saturday Evening Post by Carmine Vingo as told by Seymour Shubin
Nobody knows how that particular ring in 1949 was actually constructed at that particular venue. Regardless of the flooring, Vingo "tooth-pick" Bingo was 6' 4" 189 lbs with an abysmal 38% KO's. A closer look at his eighteen opponents:
#1) Vingo 188¼ vs Barney Metten 192¾ lbs CAREER 6 wins 3 losses with 44% KO's (F-level).
#2) Vingo 187 lbs vs Fred Ramsey 186 lbs CAREER 8 wins 12 losses with 28% KO's (F-level).
#3) Vingo 190 lbs vs Earl Turner 198 lbs CAREER 2 wins 21 losses with 0% KO's (F-level). Turners only purpose was padding records.
#4) Vingo 190 lbs vs George Washington 187 lbs CAREER 12 wins 33 losses with 17% KO's (F-level). Another paid diver.
#5) Vingo 194½ lbs vs Joe Lindsay 182½ lbs CAREER 28 wins 7 losses with 29% KO's (C-level)( "VINGO LOSES" ).
#6) Vingo 194 lbs vs Freddie McManus 179½ lbs CAREER 18 wins 19 losses with 7% KO's (F-level).
#7) Vingo 197 lbs vs Tommy DiGiorgio 183½ lbs CAREER 9 wins 15 losses with 4% KO's (F-level).
#8) Vingo 192 lbs vs Jimmy Walls 189½ lbs CAREER 20 wins 41 losses with 8% KO's (F-level). Another diver.
#9) Vingo 189½ lbs vs Tommy DiGiorgio 183½ lbs CAREER 9 wins 15 losses with 4% KO's (F-level). "SECOND TIME" Vingo fights this F-level undercard boxer. Why?
#10) Vingo 188 lbs vs Johnny Williams 183 lbs CAREER 2 wins 13 losses with 6% KO's (F-level). This isn't even boxing anymore. It's charity for the homeless.
#11) Vingo 188 lbs vs Don Mogard 191¼ lbs CAREER 20 wins 16 losses with 15% KO's (D to F-level).
#12) Vingo 195 lbs vs Freddie McManus 178 lbs CAREER 18 wins 19 losses with 7% KO's (F-level). "SECOND TIME" Vingo fights this F-level opponent. Why?
#13) Vingo 195 lbs vs Ernie Conyer 191½ lbs CAREER 5 wins 9 losses with 21% KO's (F-level).
#14) Vingo 185 lbs vs Ernie Conyer 187½ lbs CAREER 5 wins 9 losses with 21% KO's (F-level). "SECOND TIME" Vingo fights this F-level opponent. Why?
#15) Vingo 188½ lbs vs Joe Modzele 183 lbs CAREER 18 wins 8 losses with 26% KO's (D to F-level). Light heavyweights moonlighting as Heavyweights were dime a dozen back then.
#16) Vingo 192½ lbs vs George Washington 189 lbs CAREER 12 wins 33 losses (F-level). "SECOND TIME" Vingo fights this F-level diver. VINGO FOUGHT "FOUR" (4) OPPONENTS "TWICE" WITHIN 16 BOUTS. Why?
#17) Vingo 193 lbs vs Al Robinson 193 lbs CAREER 0 wins 5 losses with 0% KO's (F-level). Vingo actually fights a debuting amateur just before he faces Rocky. Why? This isn't even funny anymore.
#18) Vingo 189 lbs vs Rocky Marciano 180¼ lbs CAREER 49 wins 0 losses with 87.76% KO's (A-level). Vingo was completely outclassed and never had a chance from the get-go. I saw their Getty Museum pics and Marciano didn't have a single mark on his face, and his eyes were wide open and clear. What they did to Carmine was a travesty!
*THE WORST PREDETERMINED 16-2 BOXING RESUME OF ALL TIME
All this time i was mislead into believing that Vingo was this twenty year old superstar being prepped to become the next Heavyweight champ. Instead he was prepped for "SLAUGHTER JUST TO PLEASE A CROWD" --Carmine Vingo
[ Sad part is little Marciano fights at least 40 of these homeless F-level walk-ins who were simply fightin for room and board ]
The great white hope Marciano battered Don Cockell, another light heavyweight masquerading as a Heavyweight. Rock was the biggest phony ever, how in the hell could boxing allow such deceit, they must legitimize his legacy so they brought out of retirement an OLD
Vingo was tough. The old fighters from the 50s fought for peanuts. They had to fight often to put food on the table. They were a lot tougher than today's fighters. Vingo would have been a Champion against today's lazy fighters.
@@SteveWildasin sadly Vingo was a Bum!!!
Still hating on the Marciano legacy, still trapped in a 70 year old time zone. Stick your hate and all the people who like your old warn out comments.
@@sherom Oh how sad. Little little little Rocky. *TWO HUNDRED EIGHTY SEVEN (287) POUND ZHANG and TWO HUNDRED SEVENTY FIVE (275) POUND NGANNOU vs. little (184) pound cruiser Rocky Marciano LOL*
Southpaw Usyk is actually bigger than Ali. Joshua came in at 240 lbs, only an 18 lb weight advantage over a comfortable 222 lb Usyk who is 6' 3" with 78" reach.
Holyfield was 6' 2.5" 218 lbs with 78" reach.
Michael Spinks was 6' 2.5" 208 lbs with 76" reach.
Prime Clay/Ali was 6' 2.5" (passport) 212 lbs with 78" reach.
And of course we mustn't forget 5'10" 185 lb Marciano with his extraordinarily shortest-ever 67" flyweight reach.
Shocking isn't it.
Those other small guys weren't so small after all.
They already had the natural height and reach so they were able to assimilate into the Heavyweight division with few problems.
On the other hand little 185 lb Marciano had some serious dwarfism problems going on with his reach. Simply put Marciano's bone structure was too short to assimilate effectively.
You white Marciano fan boys make me laugh. Rocky was too small for dozens of proven authentic Super Heavyweights. Fury jabs him into oblivion. Heck, Fury can land 4 or 5 jabs a round and win the round. And how does Rocky reach Fury with the extreme height-reach difference, and Fury's foot speed?
We will never see 185 lb champions Marciano, Charles, and Patterson again. I'm sure that light heavyweight era during the 1950s following world war II was neat to watch 175 lb heavyweights fighting, but fantasyland had to end. Authentic (not fraudulent) Heavyweights started taking over with the arrival of Lewis and Bowe during the 90s
This was amazing
During the deepest era in light heavyweight history Gold Medalist Undisputed Undefeated HOF ATG GOAT Michael Spinks beat Eddie Mustafa Muhammad and Dwight Muhammad Qawi and knocked out Yaqui Lopes and Marvin Johnson, which was not easy to do in their primes. And he beat the real heavyweight champion to win the title, who was also undefeated. Michael Spinks is the most accomplished light heavyweight in history.
Light heavyweight Charles Lost (25) times and was KOd (7) times. Light heavyweight Moore Lost (23) times and was KOd (7) times. Then why is Charles and Moore ranked higher than Spinks at light heavyweight? Because they fought little Marciano which automatically makes them immortal, even though they Lost "FORTY-EIGHT" times and were "KTFO-FOURTEEN" times!
Why are you repeating the same comments with 10 different accounts? Your record is 6-12 at lightweight. Are you going to steal my username now too?
All u white Marchegiano lovers 💕 adore Rocco's high work-rate, but 6'2" 240 lb Ibeabuchi threw more punches than tiny penguin 🐧 arms Marchegiano could have imagined. Little Rocco would have been an absolute embarrassment fightin proven authentic Super Heavyweights.
Rocky Marciano should be permanently removed from all record books. Or an asterisk (*) placed before their name meaning *Cruiserweight. Eventually it's gonna happen, mark my words.
@@black_David_Frost295 spoken like a true black racist.
Their not HW,s today their Sumo wrestlers.
BoxRec has officially listed these Rocky Marciano opponents as middleweights and light heavyweights:
Eddie Ross - division "Middleweight"
Harry Bilazarian - division "Middleweight"
Ezzard Charles - division "Light heavy"
Archie Moore - division "Light heavy"
Harry Matthews - division "Light heavy"
Harry Haft - division "Light heavy"
Ted Lowry - division "Light heavy"
Willis Applegate - division "Light heavy"
Bob Jefferson - division "Light heavy"
Shouldn't one have to beat credible Heavyweight opponents to be respected as a legitimate Heavyweight champion?
Did the Klitschko brothers have the luxury of fightin middleweights and light heavyweights? Does King Fury have the luxury of fightin middleweights and light heavyweights?
Marciano's extra-small era was a huge contributing factor towards the "cruiserweight" division being created. There comes a point the size disparity becomes a bridge too far even for outstanding smaller boxers.
Little Rocky was only 31 when he up-n "QUIT" during his prime. He only fought a measly 7 years while everyone else was fightin 20 years!!! Many heavyweights coulda retired undefeated if they'd-a "QUIT" after only 7 years!!! Had he kept fightin he woulda faced the likes of Patterson, Machen, Johansson, Folley, Liston, Jones, Clay, Terrell, Cleveland and Chuvalo just to name a few.
What Marciano did to his family is unforgivable. During his retirement speech and his appearance on the Ed Sullivan show he said, "I want to spend more time with my family." That's not True. It was all a lie. He immediately abandoned his kids and wife to sleep with thousands then left them penniless--@ 1993/08/23 THE ROCK - Sports Illustrated Vault | SI
You say many heavyweights could have retired undefeated if they would have quit after 7 years. Go ahead and name them then. Unless you are lying. AGAIN. You have a habit of doing exactly that.
And, FYI. you are shorting Rocky 1 year. Marciano had an 8 year professional career.
Rocky still has the most powerful punch as well, I mean, a guy with the punching force of bullets or armor piercing bullets, that's insane.
Soooo much power🥊 a true beast!
@@lsauthor He's what we would call, a titan.
For a long time (decades) I have been researching, watching videos, reading experts, comments from fans and enthusiasts of combat sports and martial arts, I was particularly interested in boxing. I believe (I hope I'm wrong, as it would be terrible if it were true) that Rocky Marciano is overestimated by the vast majority of people, all the qualities attributed to Marciano, other boxers also had and are not recognized. Not even half of the praise given to Marciano is attributed to fighters such as: Jack Johnson, Joe Louis, Joe Frazier ,George Foreman,Max Baer,Max Schmeling,Lennox Lewis,Larry Holmes, Klitschko brothers and even Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield,Sonny Liston and Floyd Patterson, many of those I mentioned had physical, moral and psychological qualities.Rocky Marciano was not the Superman neither inside nor outside. I think you are wrong in saying that many people do not have the moral and psychological qualities that Rocky Marciano had, I know many people, incredible human beings who are kind, resilient, courageous and determined, some are known , most are anonymous, and don't have 1% of the fame, money, status that Rocky had and still has. I hope that people are recognized, admired and analyzed fairly especially boxing athletes, who are incredible, without caring with ethnicity, nationality, skin color, religion or sexual orientation, etc. Giving credit to people who don't have it is unfair and dishonest, you take away the value of the fighter himself, of other good fighters and you also devalue yourself as a human being.
Name "ONE" top-notch prime 200+lb Heavyweight he fought? The answer would be ""ZERO"". Shouldn't one have to fight genuine Heavyweights inorder to be considered an ATG at Heavyweight? His two best opponents Charles and Moore were light heavyweights NOT Heavyweights. Correct?
You white people should know the truth about Rocky, he was homosexual. Sorry if that hurts, but it shouldn't. He had to stay in the closet, it was just the way of the times. Today people like Rocky and me don't have to be embarrassed or feel ashamed. When I came out it was like taking a huge weight off of my shoulders. But don't wait like I did, I have a wife and kid that I would never had if I had not succumbed to the pressure of trying to act normal. I love Margot, but I'm not in love with her, and she understands, we stay together for our daughter. All three of us share the much of the same clothes, make-up, and interests. We're a pretty happy family. I still post with my alter egos Sophia, Corina, and Scarlett, it's just a fun escape I have.
The more i investigate each one of white hype Rocky's opponents the more i realize just how undeniably pathetic and controlled his 49-0 actually was.
Everybody knows who you are David. Nobody has to ask. Have you checked out the message over on 'The hardest man'? It refers to one of 'Legend of Boxing's' videos. The uploader knows who you are, and there are not even any 'black David Frost' comments on the video. You are very renown as bDF.
@@blackdavidfrost-n-margot727LOL, keep telling yourself that,boooyyyy.
@@Bobby.D.1776Black "Racist," Dave.
Rocky's numbers may not lie, but numbers minus context can easily lead to distortion. So let's examine those 13 opponents (not in order) that he supposedly "Forced-into-Retirement" instantaneously:
#1) Amateur Lee Epperson - 0 wins 0 losses. Shameful to even count this as a "Forced-Retirement." Retired from what? He never even had a career. Epperson was probably 15 years old like Walcott & Moore were when they first started.
#2) Amateur Jimmy Weeks - 0 wins 0 losses. Embarrassing to count this as "Forced-Retirement." Probably another 15 year old.
#3) Amateur John Edwards - 1 win 1 loss. Y'all gonna count this as a "Forced Retirement" also?
#4) We factually know that ring-worn-n-washed Joe Louis only came back because the IRS-FORCED him to. As soon as IRS took Joe's purse for fightin Rocky he was finally outta there for good!!!
#5) Walcott only returned for Marciano-2 for another easy $250K. Walcott received the lions share both fights. Had Walcott continued fightin he would have only received a fraction of that. $250K back then is $2.6 million today. Rocky never "Forced-Retirement" upon Walcott,, he "QUIT"!!!
#6) Lee Savold age was 36 with 153 bouts. His manager, Bill Daily, asked referee Pete Tomasso to stop the uneven match at the end of the sixth round. "The will was there but not the body," said Daily. "I'm going to advise Lee to retire Tomorrow." Lee didn't even throw a punch, he just stood there like a heavy punching bag. Completely washed Savold was only there for his last Big-Paycheck!!!
#7) Humphrey "The-Bum" Jackson - 4 wins 2 losses with 28% KO's (D to F-level). Jackson never beat a winning fighter. It only took 0:34 seconds for Jackson to be KO'd in his first fight, and 1:28 in his last fight. The less said about "The-Bum" the better.
#8) Jimmy Evans - 18 wins 8 losses with 50% KO's looks okay until you see he fought 10 opponents with 10 fights or less. Evans weighed 178 lbs. Too many light heavyweights.
#9) Harry Haft - 12 wins 8 losses with 35% KO's (D-level). Harry was only 5' 9" 174 lbs. I thought this was the Heavyweight division?
#10) Gino Buonvino - 24 wins 15 losses with 10% KO's (D-level). Marciano fights Buonvino "TWICE", why?
#11) Eldridge Eatman - 22 wins 21 losses with 22% KO's (F-level). Marciano fought Eatman who had just lost 8 of his last 9 fights. Rocky's handlers were afraid to put him in with anyone decent after coming so close to losing against LaStarza. ("Eatman proved no opposition for Marciano", according to the Providence Journal, "Marciano hit Eatman with a right in the 3rd round, and Eatman went down though it didn't appear he was hit"--written by BoxRec.)--Eatman obviously took-a-dive.
#12) Pete Louthis was 32-13-5 with 35% KO's (F-level). Pete fought amateur Willie James with a 0-0-0 debut record only 2 fights before facing Marciano. Pete fought 10 amateurs with 0-0-0 debut records. For Pete's sake he also fought another 20 opponents that had 10 or less fights. Pete's profession was padding records.
#13) Carmine Vingo -- 16 wins 2 losses with 38% KO's looks good until you see ALL 16 wins came against F-LEVEL opponents. The Marciano Tapes #6 @3:40 Marciano confesses Carmine Vingo hit the back of his head on the plywood flooring. He said, "it so happened that Vingo hit his head on the flooring, and it sent him unconscious. He was paralyzed a little bit in his fingers and hands. There was a change in the ruling, from then on padding was put on the ring of the flooring."
So after all this time it was the plywood flooring that partially paralyzed Vingo, not Marciano's punch.
It appears little Rocky didn't "Force-Retire" any of these boxers. Overwhelming majority of his supposed 43 KO's were referees stopping his fights prematurely and homeless walk-ins takin dives and paddin records for $$$.
The great white hope Marciano battered Don Cockell, another light heavyweight masquerading as a Heavyweight. Rock was the biggest phony ever, how in the hell could boxing allow such deceit, they must legitimize his legacy so they brought out of retirement an OLD, RETIRED, AND COMPLETELY BROKE, JOE LOUIS
All you guys posting that “little” Marciano never beat a true heavyweight need to watch a video on you tube wherein Muhammad Ali basically admitted he was very uncertain if he could have won and that maybe he (Ali) could have been knocked out by Rocky.
Keep in mind that Ali was still young Cassius Clay when he did the exhibition match with 45 year old Marciano. He said that his arms were soar the next day and it hurt to even lift them given the power of the punches Marciano landed on his arms.
But also know this:
Ali made these comments about Rocky years later after he fought everybody and only lost once to Frazier and once to Norton.
Marciano was a freak of nature. The power he generated in his punches was way beyond what a man of his size (5’10” and 188) would ever be expected to do.
And his ability to take long pain and keep coming was off the charts - as was his conditioning.
According to Rocky Marciano himself, Muhammad Ali would have won. Rocky said three boxers in his lifetime were a bridge too far for him, a young Joe Louis, Sonny Liston, and Ali. Louis for hand speed and power, Ali for pure speed, and Liston for technical excellence and pure brute strength.
Why didn't little 184lb Rocky come out of retirement at 45 and win the Heavyweight title again like 250lb George Foreman did? Wait a second. Didn't little Rocky fight Ali when he was 45? Yep. Well how'd he look? *"Oh, he was fat and moved slowly like a little turtle wearing a ridiculous lookin wig-rug toupee"*
It’s been shocking to me to see the amount of hate for Marciano… wild! Not deserved. I’m with you, he was such a beast!
*Shouldn't one have to beat credible 200+lbs Heavyweight opponents to be respected as a legitimate Heavyweight Champion?*
The reality is heart and determination can only get you so far when you're sorely lacking in the physical tools the other greats have. Americans love to glamorize the underdog who gets it done in spite of their limitation, just look at the success of Stallone and his Rocky movie franchise, the movie Rudy, Hoosiers, etc. It's interesting how people who experienced watching Marciano in real time don't hold him in the same high regard as folks later on in spite the multitude of great fighters who came on the scene after he quit. There's a lot of mythology with Marciano and a lot of selective memory about his career. He was brilliantly managed to preserve his undefeated record. It is also interesting how the same people who want to consider Rocky the greatest Heavyweight bcz he was undefeated are reluctant to consider Mayweather the greatest pound for pound. Why is that? It's just flat lazy to look at 49-0 and conclude that he must be the best ever. Based on that, then you MUST consider Mayweather the greatest pound for pound fighter of all-time since he's 50-0, right?
40 Marciano opponents: We see their entire "CAREER" record, not a partial record. Seeing a boxers complete resume gives a more accurate evaluation how good, or how bad they are. Professional boxers can easily be evaluated using US school grades A, B, C, D, and F.
Lee Epperson - 0 wins 1 loss with 0% KOs (F-level)
Jimmy Weeks - 0 wins 1 loss with 0% KOs (F-level)
Gilbert Cardone - 0 wins 3 losses with 0% KOs (F-level)
John Edwards - 1 win 2 loss with 33% KOs (F-level)
Bill Hardeman - 1 win 6 losses with 0% KOs (F-level)
Humphrey Jackson - 4 wins 2 losses with 28% KOs (D-level)
Harry Haft - 12 wins 8 losses with 35% KOs (D-level)
James Connolly - 12 wins 9 losses with 33% KOs (D-level)
Harry Bilazarian - 15 wins 12 losses with 35% KOs (D-level)
Bob Jefferson - 3 wins 10 losses with 0% KOs (F-level)
Harold Mitchell 4 wins 17 losses with 4% KOs (F-level)
Gilley Ferron - 4 wins 13 losses with 17% KOs (F-level)
Artie Donato - 7 wins 13 losses with 10% KOs (F-level)
Johnny Pretzie - 10 wins 13 losses with 33% KOs (D-level)
Don Mogard - 20 wins 16 losses with 15% KOs (D to F-level)
Pete Louthis - 32 wins 14 losses with 35% KOs (D-level)
Tommy DiGiorgio - 9 wins 15 losses with 4% KOs (F-level)
Kenne Simmons - 9 wins 22 losses with 12% KOs (F-level)
Art Henri -18 wins 29 losses with 18% KOs (F-level)
Jimmy Walls - 20 wins 41 losses with 7% KOs (F-level)
Ted Lowry - 71 wins 68 losses with 30% KOs (D to F-level)
Ted Lowry (twice) - 71 wins 68 losses with 30% KOs (D to F-level)
Gino Buonvino - 24 wins 15 losses with 10% KOs (D-level)
Gino Buonvino (twice) - 24 wins 15 losses with 10% KOs (D-level)
Joe Dominic - 18 wins 12 losses with 33% KOs (D-level)
Eldridge Eatman - 22 wins 21 losses with 22% KOs (D to F-level)
Willis Applegate -12 wins 16 losses with 13% KOs (F-level)
Lee Savold - 104 wins 45 losses with 50% KOs (D-level)
Phil Muscato - 56 wins 23 losses with 25% KOs (D-level)
Bill Wilson - 56 wins 27 losses with 51% KOs (D-level)
Johnny Shkor - 31 wins 19 losses with 42% KOs (D-level)
Fred Beshore - 35 wins 17 losses with 24% KOs (D-level)
Jimmy Evans - 18 wins 8 losses with 50% KOs looks okay until you see he fought 10 opponents with 10 fights or less.
Eddie Ross - 19 wins 5 losses with 72% KOs looks okay until you see he fought 10 debuting amateurs and 7 other opponents with 10 fights or less.
Bob Quinn - 20 wins 4 losses with 58% KOs looks okay until you see he fought 13 opponents with 10 fights or less.
Bernie Reynolds - 53 wins 13 losses with 49% KOs looks okay until you see he fought 30 opponents with 15 fights or less.
Pat Richards - 24 wins 9 losses with 39% KOs looks okay until you see who he fought 20 opponents with 10 fights or less.
Carmine Vingo - 16 wins 2 losses with 38% KOs looks good until you see ALL 16 wins came against F-LEVEL opponents.
Don Cockell - 66 wins 14 losses with 46% KOs looks okay until you see the majority of his career was at middleweight and light heavyweight. By the time he faced Marciano he was suffering from severe glandular disorders that wreaked havoc with his physique. He was sallow-skinned, fat, and had a nasty boil on his neck.
Harry Matthews - 90 wins 7 losses with 58% KOs is a good B-level resume. Problem is he was a natural middleweight moonlighting at light heavyweight. Matthews weighed 130 lbs vs. Joey Parks who also weighed 130. I thought this was the Heavyweight division? Shouldn't one have to beat credible Heavyweight opponents to be respected as a legitimate Heavyweight champion?
Even Marciano's best 3 opponents; Walcott-Charles-Moore lost (68) times and were KO'd (20) times. Marciano never faced an elite fighter in his prime. Name one, just one prime elite fighter Marciano beat? Failing to name even one proves my comment rings true. Show me any respected boxing publication or analyst that claims Walcott Charles Moore were in their prime when they fought Marciano?
IT'S CLEAR AS DAY WHY HE WENT 49-0...D AND F-LEVEL HOMELESS WALK-IN BOXERS TAKIN-DIVES AND PADDIN RECORDS FOR $$$...NUMBERS DO NOT LIE
*In the old days, ringers could boost their income by fighting repeatedly. Padding your record against weak opponents can yield good results- the real stumblebums are the guys who make a career of losing. In small-time fights, the less-talented fighter often gets the bulk of the cash; he is, after all, providing a valuable service by losing so reliably--The Ring Magazine
Why are you repeating the same comments with 10 different accounts? Your record is 6-12 at lightweight. Are you going to steal my username now too?
@@outdoorman37it's all the same person saying shit on multiple different accounts like u said. Rock fought who ever wanted to fight
Kept seein this pop up, been meaning to click on it.
Nice video fellow TH-camr, hope the comment helps!
Really appreciate you, man. Thanks for checking out the video.
I love these types of videos
Well, I hope you dig this one! Thank you for the comment, brother.
I walk 2 1/2 miles to work every day , rain or shine ; there is a level of toughness and determination beaten into you when you're a working class guy - that is why no one born rich will ever achieve true greatness : THE PRICE OF COMFORT IS WEAKNESS ! ! !
Catastrophe of Success essay by Tennessee Williams, very worth reading. Speaks to your exact point.
@@lsauthor Thank you very much , I'll have to check that out
Trump was born rich. I'd say he achieved greatness with more to come.
Marciano fanboys describe him as being so fierce that he basically killed all 49 of his opponents in the ring. Y'all have these Rocky vids so saturated with so much exaggerated hyperbolic nonsense that it's laughable.
"Little Marciano was faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive, able to leap tall buildings in a single bound. The Italian infant of Krypton was Superman. He broke 1,247 bones, knocked out 4,679 teeth, and ruptured 792 blood vessels. I also know for a fact that little Rocky is god , because when he walked the earth shook."
Don't be so gullible, Marciano only fed on middleweights and light heavyweights moonlighting as Heavyweights.
If Marciano was so Powerful why didn't he ever break any bones? He never broke one rib, one nose, one eye-socket, one jaw or detached one retina. Exactly who's bones did he break? WAITING---TIC--TOC--TIC--TOC ..... ""NOBODY""!!!! ""ZERO""!!!!
Roland LaStarza with all his supposed "Broken Bones" and "Ruptured Blood Vessels" only had minor surgery, what's the big deal? Y'all act as if both his arms were decapitated. LaStarza simply had tiny miniscule bone-chips removed from his elbow just like David Tua did after his fight with Ibeabuchi. It's a common boxing injury because everyone blocks punches using their forearms and elbows. When Roland left boxing he went on to a very lucrative TV acting career.
*(Besides LaStarza said, "I already had elbow problems before i even fought Marciano." I have the article).
Here's the newspaper article about Layne's tooth: "Rex Layne lost a left upper tooth..the tooth broke at the gums when Marciano caught the Utahn in the mouth with a full right hand. Layne was taken immediately after the fight to a New York dentist to have the teeth X-rayed and also for treatment on a broken tooth." Layne's handlers said, "the tooth went out with the gumshield."
Rex only sustained "ONE" broken tooth! He fought Charles exactly 3 months later, so what's the big deal? Folks break their teeth all the time skateboarding or slippin-n-fallin on the ice.
"He punched out almost every tooth in Rex Lyne's mouth and sent his gum guard into the crowd. It take massive power to do that. If Layne was 6'6 240+ it wouldn't of made any difference" --written by Marciano Fanboy 12 years ago.. (exaggerated misinformation at it's finest).
Great white hope Marciano battered Don Cockell, another light heavyweight masquerading as a Heavyweight. Rock was the biggest phony ever, how in the hell could boxing allow such deceit, they must legitimize his legacy so they brought out of retirement an OLD, RETIRED, AND COMPLETELY BROKE, JOE LOUIS, who was like fodder fed to a pitbull, kinda like when they fed Larry Holmes to an angry Mike Tyson, or allowed Ali to be served up to Holmes.
Rocky was actually 5' 9" (1.75 meters), according to Rocky Marciano's biographer John Cameron; his reach was 67" (1.70 meters) incredibly short for Heavyweight; by way of comparison, today's Bantamweights (115-118 lbs) average 67.7"
*(287)* lb Zhang, *(277)* lb Fury, *(272)* lb Ngannou, *(260)* lb Makhmudov vs. little *(184)* lb Rocky. Little *184lb* cruiser Rocky's 49-0 came against *middleweights* and *light heavyweights* moonlighting as Heavyweights. Little Rocky's little era was 3 generations ago and it's *Gone Finished History.*
Get a life troll
King Fury would keep little Rocky at arm's length and force him back whenever he felt crowded. He'd jab, turn and flummox him for as long as wanted, and if Fury felt so inclined, he'd walk him down Kronk style and grind out a stoppage. And none of this, "if he can't reach his head he'll go to the body", either. That's just bull****. Fury's lead would keep Marciano too far away as is. Rocky ain't gettin the opportunities to impose his workrate and definitely doesn't hit hard enough to stop him. Fury jabs him into oblivion. Heck, Fury can land 5 or 6 jabs a round and win the round. King Fury wins! Anyway he chooses!
Fury is a titan amongst mere mortals. Generations of dna forged to create the perfect Super Heavyweight boxer. I'm grateful to see him in my lifetime. A focused Fury is boxing evolved to it's highest state ever. 277 lbs of brutal jabs, snappy punches, slick head movement, good footwork, granite chin, relaxed stamina and great intelligence. Transport 'The King' back to that little 1950s era and he woulda went 149 wins 0 losses with 100% KO's!
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NEVER IN THE HISTORY OF BOXING HAS A 190 LB MAN BEAT AN ELITE SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT BOXING CHAMPION
😂that height difference would present QUITE the impassible canyon for Marciano. Can’t argue that, sir.
Why are you repeating the same comments with 10 different accounts? Your record is 6-12 at lightweight. Are you going to steal my username now too?
@@outdoorman37 King Fury would keep little Rocky at arm's length and force him back whenever he felt crowded. He'd jab, turn and flummox him for as long as wanted, and if Fury felt so inclined, he'd walk him down Kronk style and grind out a stoppage. And none of this, "if he can't reach his head he'll go to the body", either. That's just bull****. Fury's lead would keep Marciano too far away as is. Rocky ain't gettin the opportunities to impose his workrate and definitely doesn't hit hard enough to stop him. Fury jabs him into oblivion. Heck, Fury can land 5 or 6 jabs a round and win the round. King Fury wins! Anyway he chooses!
Fury is a titan amongst mere mortals. Generations of dna forged to create the perfect Super Heavyweight boxer. I'm grateful to see him in my lifetime. A focused Fury is boxing evolved to it's highest state ever. 277 lbs of brutal jabs, snappy punches, slick head movement, good footwork, granite chin, relaxed stamina and great intelligence. Transport 'The King' back to that little 1950s era and he woulda went 149 wins 0 losses with 100% KO's!
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NEVER IN THE HISTORY OF BOXING HAS A 190 LB MAN BEAT AN ELITE SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT BOXING CHAMPION
@@outdoorman37 King Fury would keep little Rocky at arm's length and force him back whenever he felt crowded. He'd jab, turn and flummox him for as long as wanted, and if Fury felt so inclined, he'd walk him down Kronk style and grind out a stoppage. And none of this, "if he can't reach his head he'll go to the body", either. That's just bull****. Fury's lead would keep Marciano too far away as is. Rocky ain't gettin the opportunities to impose his workrate and definitely doesn't hit hard enough to stop him. Fury jabs him into oblivion. Heck, Fury can land 5 or 6 jabs a round and win the round. King Fury wins! Anyway he chooses!
Fury is a titan amongst mere mortals. Generations of dna forged to create the perfect Super Heavyweight boxer. I'm grateful to see him in my lifetime. A focused Fury is boxing evolved to it's highest state ever. 277 lbs of brutal jabs, snappy punches, slick head movement, good footwork, granite chin, relaxed stamina and great intelligence. Transport 'The King' back to that little 1950s era and he woulda went 149 wins 0 losses with 100% KO's!
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NEVER IN THE HISTORY OF BOXING HAS A 190 LB MAN BEAT AN ELITE SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT BOXING CHAMPION
@@outdoorman37 More??? Okay 👍
this 6 minute blah blah blah cd have been just as effective if it was 1 minute long
Heck yeah! I needed to be more concise. For sure!
37 LaStarza opponents: We see their entire "CAREER" record, not a partial record. Seeing a boxers complete resume gives a more accurate evaluation how good, or how bad they are. Professional boxers can easily be evaluated using US school grades A, B, C, D, and F. Marciano 183 lbs 25-0 vs. LaStarza 187 lbs 37-0. Their fight was officially called a draw then later changed to a Split Decision. Jessie Abramson of the New York Daily Herald said, "it was condemned around ringside as a miscarriage of justice." Anyhow here's LaStarza's first 37 D and F-level opponents:
#37) Cesar Brion - 49 wins 11 losses with 36% KOs (C-level). Brian's career record looks okay until ya see how many of his wins came against his fellow Argentinians.
Walter Hafer - 22 wins 26 losses with 26% KOs (F-level)
Joe Dominic - 18 wins 12 losses with 33% KOs (D-level)
Jackie Lyons - 32 wins 24 losses with 23% KOs 23% (D-level)
Harry Haft - 12 wins 8 losses with 35% KOs (D-level)
Jimmy Carollo - 36 wins 17 losses with 16% KOs (D-level)
Eldridge Eatman - 22 wins 21 losses with 22% KOs (D-level)
Gino Buonvino - 24 wins 15 losses with 10% KOs (D-level)
Bill Weinberg - 44 wins 22 losses with 34% KOs (D-level)
Gene Gosney - 14 wins 5 losses with 42% KOs (C-minus level)
Don Mogard - 20 wins 16 losses with 15% KOs (D-level)
Mike Jacobs - 14 wins 16 losses with 12% KOs (D-level)
Don Mogard - 20 wins 16 losses with 15% KOs (D-level)
Mel McKinney - 8 wins 10 losses with 5% KOs (F-level)
Teddy Georges - 0 wins 1 loss with 0% KOs (F-level)
Oscar Goode - 43 wins 23 losses with 20% KOs (D-level)
Tony Gangemi - 21 wins 18 losses with 26% KOs (D-level)
Benny Rusk - 20 wins 17 losses with 27% KOs (D-level)
Fred McManus - 18 wins 19 losses with 7% KOs (F-level)
John Holloway - 2 wins 11 losses with 15% KOs (F-level)
Claude McClintock - 1 win 9 losses with 0% KOs (F-level)
Steve King - 21 wins 11 losses with 17% KOs (D-level)
Jimmy White - 9 wins 17 losses with 11% KOs (F-level)
Frankie Reed - 2 wins 14 losses with 0% KOs (F-level)
Mike Belluscio - 15 wins 10 losses with 37% KOs (D-level)
Luther McMillan - 13 wins 19 losses with 12% KOs (F-level)
Fred Ramsey - 8 wins 12 losses with 28% KOs (F-level)
Matt Mincy - 0 wins 11 losses with 0% KOs (F-level)
Lorne McCarthy - 2 wins 11 losses with 0% KOs (F-level)
Jimmy Evans - 18 wins 8 losses with 50% KOs (D-level)
Matt Mincy - 0 wins 11 losses with 0% KOs (F-level)
Zeke Brown - 0 wins 10 losses with 0% KOs (F-level)
Jim Johnson - 3 wins 22 losses with 7% KOs (F-level)
Jimmy Dodd - 8 wins 12 losses with 22% KOs (F-level)
Al Zappala - 20 wins 27 losses with 9% KOs (F-level)
Zack Johnson - 3 wins 7 losses with 10% KOs (F-level)
Dave Glanton - 1 win 13 losses with 7% KOs (F-level)
Promoters lookin for a way to get their prizefighters a big payoff will first invest thousands of dollars in padding his numbers against truly horrendous opponents. A guy who’s undefeated at 37-0, for example, might not be any better than a more seasoned boxer with a lousy record--The Ring Magazine
I've studied King Fury, Larry Holmes, Lennox Lewis, Klitschko brothers, Muhammad Ali, George Foreman, Ike Ibeabuchi etcetera and little Marciano's division was truly horrendous and dreadfully awful.
What a perspective! Hadn’t looked at it that way, thank you 🥊
@@lsauthor Disregard Black David Frost... He's simply upset because I've used the name "Studentofsweetscience" for 2 years now. He thinks he OWNS that name and it should "ONLY" be used by HIM 😂
Marciano would have knocked out any of the fighters today. His power and conditioning had no equal. Marciano was raised in an era where hard work was instilled at birth. Today's fighters fight for a Title after a dozen fights. Fighters back in the day had dozens of fights in one year. Over a hundred in a career.
Little Marciano didn't win all his fights. His first fight vs. LaStarza was officially called a draw! That is until the mafioso stepped in on Rocky's behalf. We do know factually that Ross, Eatman, and Louthis took-a-dive. Was it for $$$ or were they forced to protect themselves and their families from the same folks that protected Marciano?
"Amazing recovery by Eddie Ross after being KO'd by Rocky Marciano the previous day."-(word for word from BoxRec). (It was commonplace to take-dives and pad records during this era). That is correct, in less than 24 hours 170 lb Eddie Ross also fought 160 lb Billy Sparks who had 6 wins 11 losses. Ross also fought 10 amateurs with 0-0-0 debut records! These guys are middleweights fightin as Heavyweights. This division is beyond despicable.
Eldridge Eatman was 22-20-5 with an abysmal 22% KO's. "Eatman proved no opposition for Marciano", according to the Providence Journal, "Marciano hit Eatman with a right in the 3rd round, and Eatman went down after that, though it didn't appear he was hit." -(Eatman obviously took-a-dive). The last 9 fights Eatman had leading up to his fight with Marciano he went 1 win 8 losses. Shamefully disturbing.
Pete Louthis was 32-13-5 with an abysmal 35% KO's. Pete fought amateur Willie James with a 0-0-0 debut record only 2 fights before facing Marciano. Pete fought 10 amateurs with 0-0-0 debut records! For Pete's sake he also fought another 20 opponents that had 10 or less fights. Pete's profession was padding records. Marciano fought at least 25 different Pete's!
This isn't even professional boxing. It's more reminiscent to the Jack Dempsey days when they simply walked-in and took bouts for room and board. Pugilist negotiated payments to throw matches, while others "took a dive" merely to avoid injury and pick up an easy pay cheque.
I understand throwing matches also happened before Rocky's time and after Rocky's time. But the 1950s boxing era was the pinnacle for corruption and 100% monopolized. Padding records and taking dives didn't happen once a month, it was the daily norm. It factually happened and cannot ever be swept under the carpet.
Remember the National Prohibition of alcohol during the 20s and 30s. Italian Kingpins like Al Capone were able to rack in $100 million each year thanks to the overwhelming business opportunity of illegal booze.
The majority of extortion and loansharking criminal gangs were Italian. Lucky Luciano, Johnny Torrio, Al Capone, Vito Genovese, John Gotti, Carlo Gambino, thousands of bosses, underbosses and soldiers etc. It was all Sicilian.
The day after Rocco Marchegiano retired he immediately abandoned his kids and wife to sleep with thousands. He also started his loansharking business--(psychosis and other symptoms he suffered)--@ 1993/08/23 THE ROCK - Sports Illustrated Vault | SI
Marciano was killed flying to Des Moines to pick up $35 thousand. Problem was he knowingly flew during severe weather with an amateur pilot. Mr Greedy Infidel got what he deserved for what he did to his family.
@Bobby D that was written almost a month ago. I've since corrected it. At least I correct my mistakes, unlike black David Frost
@Bobby D I admit I'm a naysayer!!! Black David is playing Both sides!!! He's dedicated 4 accounts to good guy and 8 accounts to black David Frost
@Bobby D Half a dozen people knows who he is except U
@Bobby D if u wanna know just ask. If not forget it
Rocky Marciano's record is deciving only because he didn't get to fight Sonny Liston ( who would have destroyed Marciano) Their is no way Rocky Marciano could have beaten Liston the same as he couldn't beat George Foreman.Rocky Marciano would retire before he fought Liston . Rocky's record doesn't mean much when he didn't get to fight the best of his generation.
Marciano would destroy the rigged Fighters Liston and Foreman were.
Ooo interesting take, dude! Liston would have been a SERIOUS challenge!
@@lsauthor A 179 pound man knocked Liston down, broke his nose, and defeated him. Marciano ends Sonny, who was felled by the weak hitting Ali.
Yeah, Mindset and the Mob fixing all your fights!
you must be talking about sonny liston.
This is fake news, how can Rocky’s fights be fixed if they all ended in knockouts?
@@hillaryilinsky1009most liston fights ended with a cold Ko. They weren't fixed exept the Fight ali
Little Marciano didn't win all his fights. His first fight vs. LaStarza was officially called a draw! That is until the mafioso stepped in on Rocky's behalf. We do know factually that Ross, Eatman, and Louthis took-a-dive. Was it for $$$ or were they forced to protect themselves and their families from the same folks that protected Marciano?
What is your evidence for *any* of that?!?
@@surrealistidealist Marciano won his first fight with LaStarza by decision. He knocked him out in their second fight. As for the mafia there is zero evidence that Marciano had any connection whatsoever with them. blackdavid is a well-known Internet racist. Rocky was white and undefeated and that drives racists like him nuts
He was a fascinating guy.
Couldn’t agree more, brother! 🥊
@@lsauthor He had that incredible drive to be great that very few people have. He would rather have died than end up in the shoe factory where his father worked. The ultimate overachiever.
Da quanto ho potuto leggere e capire..questo Rocky spaccone boy scout italoamericano ..era na pippa!
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He also had such a bad back that at one point he'd have his driver stop the car so he could get out and walk it off. Yes, while he was boxing. Went to multiple doctors about it and the second they suggested surgery he "pivoted on his heel" and walked out.
Wow! I don’t think I knew that, that is incredible.
Name "ONE" top-notch prime 200+lb Heavyweight he fought? The answer would be ""ZERO"". Shouldn't one have to fight genuine Heavyweights inorder to be considered an ATG at Heavyweight? His two best opponents Charles and Moore were light heavyweights NOT Heavyweights. Correct?
Southpaw Usyk is actually bigger than Ali. Joshua came in at 240 lbs, only an 18 lb weight advantage over a comfortable 222 lb Usyk who is 6' 3" with 78" reach.
Holyfield was 6' 2.5" 218 lbs with 78" reach.
Michael Spinks was 6' 2.5" 208 lbs with 76" reach.
Prime Clay/Ali was 6' 2.5" (passport) 212 lbs with 78" reach.
And of course we mustn't forget 5'10" 185 lb Marciano with his extraordinarily shortest-ever 67" flyweight reach.
Shocking isn't it.
Those other small guys weren't so small after all.
They already had the natural height and reach so they were able to assimilate into the Heavyweight division with few problems.
On the other hand little 185 lb Marciano had some serious dwarfism problems going on with his reach. Simply put Marciano's bone structure was too short to assimilate effectively.
Why are you repeating the same comments with 10 different accounts? Your record is 6-12 at lightweight. Are you going to steal my username now too?
Black David Frost.
ROCKY MARCIANO owns the space in your head. You wake up-live your day and evening thinking about ROCKY MARCIANO, You go to sleep thinking about ROCKY MARCIANO.
You can’t get ROCKY MARCIANO out of your head. You are simultaneously in ecstasy and tortured by
ROCKY MARCIANO. Even your husband is jealous that you’re always thinking of ROCKY MARCIANO.
ROCKY MARCIANO is your MASTER. ROCKY MARCIANO IS THE MASTER GOD you pray to.
@@louisj.marciano3390😂
During the deepest era in light heavyweight history Gold Medalist Undisputed Undefeated HOF ATG GOAT Michael Spinks beat Eddie Mustafa Muhammad and Dwight Muhammad Qawi and knocked out Yaqui Lopes and Marvin Johnson, which was not easy to do in their primes. And he beat the real heavyweight champion to win the title, who was also undefeated. Michael Spinks is the most accomplished light heavyweight in history.
Light heavyweight Charles Lost (25) times and was KOd (7) times. Light heavyweight Moore Lost (23) times and was KOd (7) times. Then why is Charles and Moore ranked higher than Spinks at light heavyweight? Because they fought little Marciano which automatically makes them immortal, even though they Lost "FORTY-EIGHT" times and were "KTFO-FOURTEEN" times!
Says the well-known Internet racist
37 LaStarza opponents: We see their entire "CAREER" record, not a partial record. Seeing a boxers complete resume gives a more accurate evaluation how good, or how bad they are. Professional boxers can easily be evaluated using US school grades A, B, C, D, and F. Marciano 183 lbs 25-0 vs. LaStarza 187 lbs 37-0. Their fight was officially called a draw then later changed to a Split Decision. Jessie Abramson of the New York Daily Herald said, "it was condemned around ringside as a miscarriage of justice." Anyhow here's LaStarza's first 37 D and F-level opponents:
#37) Cesar Brion - 49 wins 11 losses with 36% KOs (C-level). Brian's career record looks okay until ya see how many of his wins came against his fellow Argentinians.
Walter Hafer - 22 wins 26 losses with 26% KOs (F-level)
Joe Dominic - 18 wins 12 losses with 33% KOs (D-level)
Jackie Lyons - 32 wins 24 losses with 23% KOs 23% (D-level)
Harry Haft - 12 wins 8 losses with 35% KOs (D-level)
Jimmy Carollo - 36 wins 17 losses with 16% KOs (D-level)
Eldridge Eatman - 22 wins 21 losses with 22% KOs (D-level)
Gino Buonvino - 24 wins 15 losses with 10% KOs (D-level)
Bill Weinberg - 44 wins 22 losses with 34% KOs (D-level)
Gene Gosney - 14 wins 5 losses with 42% KOs (C-minus level)
Don Mogard - 20 wins 16 losses with 15% KOs (D-level)
Mike Jacobs - 14 wins 16 losses with 12% KOs (D-level)
Don Mogard - 20 wins 16 losses with 15% KOs (D-level)
Mel McKinney - 8 wins 10 losses with 5% KOs (F-level)
Teddy Georges - 0 wins 1 loss with 0% KOs (F-level)
Oscar Goode - 43 wins 23 losses with 20% KOs (D-level)
Tony Gangemi - 21 wins 18 losses with 26% KOs (D-level)
Benny Rusk - 20 wins 17 losses with 27% KOs (D-level)
Fred McManus - 18 wins 19 losses with 7% KOs (F-level)
John Holloway - 2 wins 11 losses with 15% KOs (F-level)
Claude McClintock - 1 win 9 losses with 0% KOs (F-level)
Steve King - 21 wins 11 losses with 17% KOs (D-level)
Jimmy White - 9 wins 17 losses with 11% KOs (F-level)
Frankie Reed - 2 wins 14 losses with 0% KOs (F-level)
Mike Belluscio - 15 wins 10 losses with 37% KOs (D-level)
Luther McMillan - 13 wins 19 losses with 12% KOs (F-level)
Fred Ramsey - 8 wins 12 losses with 28% KOs (F-level)
Matt Mincy - 0 wins 11 losses with 0% KOs (F-level)
Lorne McCarthy - 2 wins 11 losses with 0% KOs (F-level)
Jimmy Evans - 18 wins 8 losses with 50% KOs (D-level)
Matt Mincy - 0 wins 11 losses with 0% KOs (F-level)
Zeke Brown - 0 wins 10 losses with 0% KOs (F-level)
Jim Johnson - 3 wins 22 losses with 7% KOs (F-level)
Jimmy Dodd - 8 wins 12 losses with 22% KOs (F-level)
Al Zappala - 20 wins 27 losses with 9% KOs (F-level)
Zack Johnson - 3 wins 7 losses with 10% KOs (F-level)
Dave Glanton - 1 win 13 losses with 7% KOs (F-level)
Promoters lookin for a way to get their prizefighters a big payoff will first invest thousands of dollars in padding his numbers against truly horrendous opponents. A guy who’s undefeated at 37-0, for example, might not be any better than a more seasoned boxer with a lousy record--The Ring Magazine
I've studied King Fury, Larry Holmes, Lennox Lewis, Klitschko brothers, Muhammad Ali, George Foreman, Ike Ibeabuchi etcetera and little Marciano's division was truly horrendous and dreadfully awful.
Marciano fanboys describe him as being so fierce that he basically killed all 49 of his opponents in the ring. Y'all have these Rocky vids so saturated with so much exaggerated hyperbolic nonsense that it's laughable.
"Little Marciano was faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive, able to leap tall buildings in a single bound. The Italian infant of Krypton was Superman. He broke 1,247 bones, knocked out 4,679 teeth, and ruptured 792 blood vessels. I also know for a fact that little Rocky is god , because when he walked the earth shook."
Don't be so gullible, Marciano only fed on middleweights and light heavyweights moonlighting as Heavyweights.
If Marciano was so Powerful why didn't he ever break any bones? He never broke one rib, one nose, one eye-socket, one jaw or detached one retina. Exactly who's bones did he break? WAITING---TIC--TOC--TIC--TOC ..... ""NOBODY""!!!! ""ZERO""!!!!
Roland LaStarza with all his supposed "Broken Bones" and "Ruptured Blood Vessels" only had minor surgery, what's the big deal? Y'all act as if both his arms were decapitated. LaStarza simply had tiny miniscule bone-chips removed from his elbow just like David Tua did after his fight with Ibeabuchi. It's a common boxing injury because everyone blocks punches using their forearms and elbows. When Roland left boxing he went on to a very lucrative TV acting career.
*(Besides LaStarza said, "I already had elbow problems before i even fought Marciano." I have the article).
Here's the newspaper article about Layne's tooth: "Rex Layne lost a left upper tooth..the tooth broke at the gums when Marciano caught the Utahn in the mouth with a full right hand. Layne was taken immediately after the fight to a New York dentist to have the teeth X-rayed and also for treatment on a broken tooth." Layne's handlers said, "the tooth went out with the gumshield."
Rex only sustained "ONE" broken tooth! He fought Charles exactly 3 months later, so what's the big deal? Folks break their teeth all the time skateboarding or slippin-n-fallin on the ice.
"He punched out almost every tooth in Rex Lyne's mouth and sent his gum guard into the crowd. It take massive power to do that. If Layne was 6'6 240+ it wouldn't of made any difference" --written by Marciano Fanboy 12 years ago.. (exaggerated misinformation at it's finest).
No one takes you seriously any longer....Lots of hate so sad