I agree . His defence was very good as even Angelo dundee Muhammed Alis trainer commented that his defence was better than it appeared. And most people are unaware that he started boxing late so you can amagine if he had started early how much more impressive he would have been .
Combined Walcott Charles Moore Louis already had 431 fights before they fought Rocky. Add the 96 fights Louis had during his 4 year military service, that's 527 fights not to mention Walcott and Louis retired for 6½ years. Those four were already ring worn and washed. Anyone that says otherwise is biased.
His coach Goldman: Rocky's short, stoop-shouldered and balding with two left feet. A lot of people say that he doesn't look too good in there, but the guys on the canvas don't look too good either.
I totally agree with you on Rocky style. Rocky threw punches so hard wherever he hit it would temporarily disable that part of the body. One can see on tapes that Rocky threw very fast hard punches. Most of his opponents went to the hospital for checkups.
Fran - Great analysis as we’ve come to expect. A sportswriter once asked one of Marciano’s sparring partners what it’s like to be hit by Rocky. He replied “It’s like someone is hitting you with a sack of oranges”. So many of Marciano’s opponents seemed technically superior to him on paper, but he beat them all. He had the guts of a lion, fists of steel, and incredible conditioning. Very much underrated on his defense. I’m old enough to clearly remember the sad day of his passing.
Ppl say Marciano was a skill less brawler and got hit too much. I wonder how much other boxers would get hit by Moore, Charles, Louis, Walcott. This man never gassed out with more power punches thrown than anyone has ever thrown since while being rarely hit clearly no matter the name. Started his career very late, thought 49 bouts in only 8 years. It’s just beyond me how ppl try to argue against him.
a MUST read about the very disturbed psychopath Rocky Marciano ( @- 1993/08/23 THE ROCK - Sports Illustrated Vault | SI ) I'm not a hater, Marciano has always been my favorite. Rocky fans need to understand why he abandoned his kids and wife then left them penniless.
Unbeaten is the story of an immigrant son who chased the American dream in the middle of the 20th Century. Marciano’s story unfolds in the back alleys of New England and the musty gyms of New York in the years after World War 2. Rocky moved through a romantic era of guys and dolls, hustlers and gamblers, crusty trainers and sleazy managers, glamorous celebrities and notorious mobsters. What I knew about Marciano before I read the book Unbeaten was that he cowardly retired during his prime right before he would have had to fight the lik' of Patterson, Liston, and Clay to name just a few. I did not know about his conduct during World War 2 that got him locked up in jail for 2 years. I did not know of the mob's influence in his career. Nor did i realize that his list of opponents while he was champion were of dubious quality. Joe Louis was far beyond his prime. Journeyman Joe Walcott was 38/39 years old. Former middleweight turned light heavyweight grandfather Archie Moore was 41 and Ezzard Charles best years were behind him at light heavyweight. For the last decade of his life Marciano wandered America, disillusioned, untrusting, hiding his money, cheating on his wife, consorting with the mobsters and loansharking. He hung around with Frank Sinatra and a number of "made guys." Rocky was not a good businessperson and was lousy with investing and saving money. He left his family penniless. Again his boxing record is offset by the low level of his opponents. He died relatively young in a plane crash due to his complete disregard of intentionally flying during horrible weather conditions inorder to collect money.
@@Lucille69caddy Wanna go over Marciano's opponents ONE at a time? Shall we start with his 15 opponents that had LOSING records or his opponents that had 20 30 40 50+ LOSSES and were KO'd numerous times? Walcott Charles Moore Savold LOST (113) times and were KO'd (32) times. Lowry had (57) LOSSES. Wanna continue? I've studied EVERYONE of Marciano's opponents individually and with the exception of ONE opponent, they were all terrible. Charles was good BUT HE WAS STILL A NATURAL MIDDLEWEIGHT. Just saw a picture of Charles standing next to middleweight Sugar Ray Robinson and Robinson looked Bigger!!! Don't get me wrong, there were some great light heavyweights during this time. But the HEAVYWEIGHT division was a complete and utter embarrassment. Rocky fans always say his opponents were bigger than he was. Then name all these Bigger opponents and let's go over their records and KO percentages one at a time. Nobody can out-debate me. NOBODY. Wanna try? Then go for it. I'll be waiting... TIC TOC TIC TOC TIC TOC
If you watch the final moments of the knockout versus walcott in the later rounds you will see Marciano inching forward and the funny thing is the steps where he is getting close to Walcott he actually steps forward with his back foot first. Which is of course totally "wrong" about Walcott is so defensive that Marciano is basically safe and in addition to that stepping with that back foot first conceals the foward movement. Not something you'd want to try to teach someone because even if it works in that case it's hard to judge when is the right case but damn it if it it worked for the Rock.
Very good analysis Of Rocky yes i think it was his conditioning he would never stop throwing punches something like 80 plus punches a round he would just slowly beat them down with that kind of volume yes diffidently his conditioning.
Question.. I’m 16 and my dream is to fight like rocky Marciano or just the old time sluggers with a lot of work could Rocky’s style work in today’s boxing? Thank you!
JOURNEYMAN JERSEY JOE WALCOTT EXPOSED There are few heavyweight champions in the history of boxing that are better known for their losses than their wins. Jersey Joe Walcott's high profile losses is what elevated his status and built up his credentials, not his wins. During his peak championship years, Walcott scored 7 wins with 5 KO's. Only one of those KO's came against a ranked fighter, that being Ezzard Charles. During this time Walcott also lost 7 times and suffered 10 count KO's 3 times and a 9 count once. In total fights during this time Walcott's record was 7-7. In title fights he went 2-6 with 1 KO win and 3 KO losses. He fought 3 different men in his 8 title fights, was defeated by each of them twice, KO'd by two of them and only defeated one of them. In his overall career, Walcott had a 49-20-1 record and was KO'd 6 times (BoxRec). Based on these less than impressive stats it is difficult to consider him anymore than a good Journeyman. Walcott scored 32 KO's in 70 fights. 8 of them came against fighters who were winless. The only two ranked fighters Walcott ever KO'd was an off the floor 10th round win over Curtis Sheppard and the lightning in the bottle KO of Ezzard Charles. Walcott is a prime example of boxing historians rating a fighter higher than he deserves based on impressive losses. Walcott was winless in all 4 of his fights vs Louis/Marciano and was KO'd 3 times. The fact that Walcott was granted 6 title attempts in a 6 year span speaks volumes about how weak the heavyweight division must have been at this time. Five of these title opportunities came immediately after a Walcott loss. Had Walcott been fighting in the 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's, 2000's, there is no way he would have been granted this many opportunities after losing so many title attempts. Walcott should at best be remembered not as a great heavyweight champion, but a good Journeyman.
JOURNEYMAN JERSEY JOE WALCOTT EXPOSED There are few heavyweight champions in the history of boxing that are better known for their losses than their wins. Jersey Joe Walcott's high profile losses is what elevated his status and built up his credentials, not his wins.
How many losses did the BEST Heavyweight Champions of All Time have: Lewis 2,, Holmes 6,, Ali 5,, Vitali 2,, Foreman 5,, Tyson 6,, Wladimir 5,, Bowe 1,, Liston 4,, Louis 3,, Holyfield 10,, Frazier 4,, Norton 7,, Tunney 1,, Dempsey 6,, Jack Johnson 11....Who's missing? Oh, little Marciano is missing. Why? "SHOW ME A HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION WITHOUT A LOSS AND I'LL SHOW YOU A FIGHTER THAT FOUGHT A LOT OF NOBODIES" -- Lennox Lewis Cruiserweight Journeyman Jersey Joe Walcott 49W 20L 39-Year Old Club Fighter. Joe Louis 66W 3L Over The Hill Came Back From The Dead Before Count Dracula Of Transylvania Did. Middleweight-Lightheavyweight-Lightcruiserweight-Ezzard Charles 95W 25L Club Fighter With More Beatings Than Curley of The Three Stooges. Welterweight-Middleweight-Lightheavyweight-Lightcruiserweight-Archie Moore 186W 23L 41-Year Old Grandfather was Factually Born in 1913. Archie was Already Fightin Professionally When tiny Rocky was Only 12-Years Old!!! Pick a Decade.. 60s,, 70s,, 80s,, 90s,, 2000s? He would have been destroyed in all of them! Little Marciano only steered towards zombies and mediocre opposition at best.. "Fight No One and Quit While You Are Ahead"
genius annalysis... Rocky was hard to hit... but his counters were brutal.... I wonder how he would fare today against these boxers.. Larry Holmes disrespected "Rocky" said: he could not hold my jockstrap"!! a little passive aggressive racist comment.. back some years ago..
Old ? Joe Louis had just come off of 8 impressive wins against top boxers right before Rocky, and George Foreman was 45 years old when he took the title.
Marciano bent a little bit too much at the waist and not enough at the knees. Mike Tyson perfected his style. Tyson threw more from the leg and hip. In my opinion that’s why Rocky had back issues at the end of his career, his form was not perfect he should’ve used in vent at the knees more
Wanna go over Marciano's opponents ONE at a time? Shall we start with his FIFTEEN (15) opponents that had LOSING records or his best opponents that had 20 30 40 50+ LOSSES and were KO'd NUMEROUS TIMES? Walcott, Charles, Moore, Savold LOST ONE HUNDRED THIRTEEN (113) TIMES and were KO'd THIRTY TWO (32) TIMES. Ted Lowry had FIFTY SEVEN (57) LOSSES. Wanna continue? I've studied EVERYONE of Marciano's opponents individually and with the exception of ONE opponent, they were all terrible. Charles was good BUT HE WAS STILL A NATURAL MIDDLEWEIGHT. Just saw a picture of Charles standing next to middleweight Sugar Ray Robinson and Robinson looked Bigger!!! Don't get me wrong, there were some great light heavyweights during this time. But the HEAVYWEIGHT division was a complete and utter embarrassment. Rocky fans always say his opponents were bigger than he was. Then name all these Bigger opponents and let's go over their records and KO percentages one at a time. Nobody can out-debate me. NOBODY. Wanna try? Then go for it. I'll be waiting... TIC TOC TIC TOC TIC TOC
I loved his double left hook, constant feints with his movement that desensitized his opponents defense over time. The massive leverage he was able to get into his punches from telephone booth range. His attacks were efficient like you said straightforward and non stop which can make up for lack of pure speed, by the time he let's off 10 haymakers his opponent would usually be throwing 5 or less punches with less effectiveness. His conditioning was top tier physically and mentally. A true body snatcher that even narrated "Go to the body you're losing your head" over his fight with Ezzard Charles which he eventually knocked out by missing the left hook but being pendulum like used that momentum to crank a devestating right hand over the top almost like a pitcher in baseball. His uppercuts often sent opponents clean through the ropes just look at the Joe Louis fight (color version) and his fight with Lastarza. Marciano was sheering people's teeth clean off their gums with over hand rights and bursting blood vessels in their arms by the end of the fight. He shows nice rolling techniques particularly later in his career that generated immediately into hooks rocking his opponents leaving them off leveraged(Don Cockell fight) He had that subtle awkward angle that he would induce on his opponents and even shows some back stepping into an attack if you watch the first Walcott fight. Nothing too flashy just pure heart determination and power
The "inching forward" movement was created by Charlie Goldman. He tied RM's feet together, a little apart, in order to coach that inching movement and balance. He is a favourite of mine, he gave so much of himself to the sport, was so gracious. He was asked as fighters are so often for a prediction, "Say Rocky, what round will you knock him out?" and Marciano answered, "I hope to win." My TH-cam name comes from that quote.
@@Lucille69caddy Wanna go over Marciano's opponents ONE at a time? Shall we start with his 15 opponents that had LOSING records or his opponents that had 20 30 40 50+ LOSSES and were KO'd numerous times? Walcott Charles Moore Savold LOST (113) times and were KO'd (32) times. Lowry had (57) LOSSES. Wanna continue? I've studied EVERYONE of Marciano's opponents individually and with the exception of ONE opponent, they were all terrible. Charles was good BUT HE WAS STILL A NATURAL MIDDLEWEIGHT. Just saw a picture of Charles standing next to middleweight Sugar Ray Robinson and Robinson looked Bigger!!! Don't get me wrong, there were some great light heavyweights during this time. But the HEAVYWEIGHT division was a complete and utter embarrassment. Rocky fans always say his opponents were bigger than he was. Then name all these Bigger opponents and let's go over their records and KO percentages one at a time. Nobody can out-debate me. NOBODY. Wanna try? Then go for it. I'll be waiting... TIC TOC TIC TOC TIC TOC
@@Robert.Levi.Miller You need to calm down and try to behave like a man and not a blustering little nobody trying to prove himself via the shield of anonymity and a keyboard.
@Bobby D How many losses did the BEST Heavyweight Champions of All Time have: Lewis 2,, Holmes 6,, Ali 5,, Vitali 2,, Foreman 5,, Tyson 6,, Wladimir 5,, Bowe 1,, Liston 4,, Louis 3,, Holyfield 10,, Frazier 4,, Norton 7,, Tunney 1,, Dempsey 6,, Jack Johnson 11....Who's missing? Oh, little Marciano is missing. Why? "SHOW ME A HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION WITHOUT A LOSS AND I'LL SHOW YOU A FIGHTER THAT FOUGHT A LOT OF NOBODIES" -- Lennox Lewis Cruiserweight Journeyman Jersey Joe Walcott 49W 20L 39-Year Old Club Fighter. Joe Louis 66W 3L Over The Hill Came Back From The Dead Before Count Dracula Of Transylvania Did. Middleweight-Lightheavyweight-Lightcruiserweight-Ezzard Charles 95W 25L Club Fighter With More Beatings Than Curley of The Three Stooges. Welterweight-Middleweight-Lightheavyweight-Lightcruiserweight-Archie Moore 186W 23L 41-Year Old Grandfather was Factually Born in 1913. Archie was Already Fightin Professionally When tiny Rocky was Only 12-Years Old!!! Pick a Decade.. 60s,, 70s,, 80s,, 90s,, 2000s? He would have been destroyed in all of them! Little Marciano only steered towards zombies and mediocre opposition at best.. "Fight No One and Quit While You Are Ahead"
@Bobby D 'The President' Nigerian Ike Ibeabuchi and 'The Tuamanator' Samoan David Tua had combined to throw 1,730 punches, breaking the heavyweight record set by Ali vs Frazier III. Both fighters had a brawling fight style, they were both 24 years old at the time of their epic 'tribal' battle, and they were both undefeated going in to this fight. 226lb Tua's record stood at 27-0-0 with 23KO's while 236lb Ibeabuchi's record stood at 16-0-0 with 12KO's. This fight is the stuff that dreams are made of. Both warriors stood toe to toe and gave it their all. They both showed us exceptional heart and endurance. 'The President' set an individual CompuStat record by throwing 975 punches and averaging 81 per round while both fighters set a CompuStat record (1,730) in the Heavyweight division. I envision little light heavyweights Charles and Moore fightin 'The Tuamanator' and always end up laughing. And 'The President' woulda walked through Marciano and Walcott as if they were invisible. Little tiny dwarfism arms never fought one credible 200+lb Heavyweight let alone top-notch prime Super Heavyweights similar to Ibeabuchi and Tua.
Marciano said his best weight he ever fought at was, "186lbs." Tyson was 220lbs at his fastest & best. About 235lbs at his heaviest. Rocky didn't have the speed or footwork to keep Tyson away or the skill or technique to keep him off. And saying that Rocky was tough… well,, tough can get you killed in the ring against a super power puncher with superior skills. This fight wouldn't last 2 rounds with a prime Tyson. And a non-prime Tyson would still be heavier and stronger. Rocky never faced anyone of merit who was near their prime. You wouldn't want Tyson to be your first. Bigger, faster, stronger. With malicious intent. No way Rocky would beat a prime Iron Mike.
I am a big fan of Marciano, I think his major strength was in athleticism and absolute dedication to the sport. He was able to throw power punches no stop for the entire match. I've never seen any other heavy weight doing that. I also think that the Suzie Q was more of a mix between a hook and an uppercut with the same rotation of the torso that baseball players do (He used to be a baseball player) there was his entire weight behind that punch.
I used to love to read about and watch footage of Marciano when I first took up boxing. Obviously the massive punching power was something, but I was just in awe of the relentless determination and grit the "will to win". Great fighter.
He came on in waves he would roll into the opponent he was always moving forward never going off plan knowing eventually he will break through even when he missed he would keep following through. He had a very strong mind and belief in his skill . He was a very good boxer
Great video Mr Sands, learned a lot from it. Marciano also used his short arms to his advantage. From his crouching Style. At times he would also jump into the punch from his crouching Style.
So glad you made this. Rocky one of the most underrated, his style so unique and simple. Where would you put him in your top 10 HWs all time? Thank you
Mike Tyson was gifted with type II fast-twitch muscle fibers. He came out the gate sprinting like 220 pound Quarter 🐎 Horse, while 185 pound Marciano came out the gate shuffling forward like Little 🐢Turtle. 1980's 20yr old phenom Mike easily KO's Rocky 10 outta 10 times!
The people out there who disrespect Marciano don't seem to realize how truly great he was. Think about it this way...Joe Louis was champ from 37-49, followed by Ezzard Charles and Jersey Joe Walcott. Marciano beat Walcott and Charles twice. There is not a single man in Joe Louis' career that Rocky Marciano wouldn't have beaten, and he would have beaten a few of them in a more devastating fashion. Out of the champions BEFORE Louis, who would have had a chance against the Rock? Braddock? Sharkey? NO!!! You would have to go back to Dempsey or Tunney before Marciano even has to worry. AFTER Marciano does ANYONE think Patterson or Johannson beats Rocky? No. Liston wouldn't have beaten him either though that would potentially be a barn burner. SO...looking at the boxing world realistically, Marciano had the absolute potential to beat every fighter who ever put on gloves between Dempsey in 1921 and Cassius Clay in in 1964. If you look at the comments both Dempsey and Ali have made about Marciano, they werent fully convinced they could beat him either.
been waiting for this video, very underrated. i have been trying to model my fighting style on Marciano; like him, i am not naturally gifted athletically nor do i possess very light or agile feet.
Rocky was a gifted athlete. He had tryouts for professional baseball and was middle linebacker for his hs football team. He took up boxing 🥊 in the Army
I was the same my footwork before was clumsy but if u practice often you will obtain it...the secret that I found to footwork is to take small steps and keep your back leg planted ...small steps forwards backward ..repeat look at the footwork of Shakur Stevenson and you will see what I mean nothing special but small sliding steps help keep you balanced...don't bounce either that just uses energy
Ever wonder why little Rocky Marciano is always ranked so high? Because his ranking is determined by modern computer metric algorithms. Problem is this man-made program was coded to exclude "WEIGHT" from the equation. That's why tiny-165 pound 'Heavyweight' champion Bob Fitzsimmons from the 1800s is ranked ahead of giant Riddick Bowe. How's it possible 185 pound Marciano ranks higher than Fury Holmes Lewis Vitali Wladimir Foreman Bowe Tyson etcetera? Well now we all know why!!! Even though Heavyweight champions ranged from 165 (Fitzsimmons) to 328 (Valuev) pounds, ranking bodies still exclude "WEIGHT" from their metric, even though they 'Still Acknowledge Seventeen (17) Different "WEIGHT" Classes', imagine that. "AGE" is another code omitted from the metric. The algorithms only see Marciano fought 4 Hall of Famers and went 49-0, it doesn't see Moore was 41 years "old" and "light" heavyweight moonlighting at Heavyweight. That's why ALL Heavyweight rankings should be looked upon with a grain of salt. Unfortunately Rocky fanboys cling to his ranking as if it were life and death.
People should know the truth about Rocky, he was homosexual. Sorry if that hurts, but it shouldn't. He had to stay in the closet, it was just the way of the times. Today people like Rocky and me don't have to be embarrassed or feel ashamed. When I came out it was like taking a huge weight off of my shoulders. But don't wait like I did, I have a wife and kid that I would never had if I had not succumbed to the pressure of trying to act normal. I love Margot, but I'm not in love with her, and she understands, we stay together for our daughter. All three of us share the much of the same clothes, make-up, and interests. We're a pretty happy family. I still post with my alter egos Sophia, Corina, and Scarlett, it's just a fun escape I have.
Rocky fan-atic's describes him as being so fierce that he basically killed all 49 of his opponents in the ring. "Rocky almost killed Carmine Vingo," well Mancini 'killed' Kim, but nobody constantly brags about that like Rocky lovers do with Vingo. Y'all have these Marciano vids so saturated with ur exaggerated hyperbolic comments about Rocky's power and those 13 forced retirements, that it's laughable.
Some people think and they are allowed to have their opinion that today's giants would have beaten such a small man but today's giants all have one thing in common, they were all beaten by lesser men. If this is true and correct then what chance do they have against him! Answer, not much IMO. Cheers.
Don't need classic combos when you're throwing 60-85 punches PER round. And hitting a 300 POUND heavy bag over and over again. Punching their arms until they drop. Then Suzie Q
Marciano would throw and rotate his whole body with his overhand right, landing in the southpaw stance. If he missed, he could immediately follow up with a rear left hook, again throwing his whole body into it and rotating to land back into the orthodox stance.
This style is good for beginners i think. When ever I pretend the bag is a real opponent. I normally don't get big combos off. Combos could set you up to get hit
I just love the Marciano haters ! Oh Rocky did not fight anyone ... Ater Joe Louis fought Schemling his opponents were called " The Bum of the Month Club " All the Champs fought some tomato cans on their way up ... I know of 5 or 6 very good boxers that Marciano fought, Carmine Vingo was a very talented boxer making a big stir at 16-1.... Rex Layne at 34-1-2..... La Starza at 37-0... Harry Matthews at 81-3-5 . Then of course Ezzard Charles , Joe Walcott, and Archie Moore who were all considered among the great boxers of their era ... Marciano was 5'11" and 188lbs and for the Archie Moore fight he was 184 lbs at weigh in and Archie was 188 lbs... people seemed to forget Ali standing 6' 2-1/2" only weighed 208 in his prime when he was fighting all the nobodies on his way up ! Think about this , Archie Moore was about 49 yrs old when he fought Ali and he gave him a better fight than Sonny Liston...who everyone still thinks Liston was a great fighter..but Liston had one about two good wins over Patterson and the bunch of no names before that.... Give Marciano credit where credit is due he fought all the number one contenders and if you wanted him to fight 200 lb+fighters you would have to hunt them in that day and time. Joe Louis fought at 198 lbs early in his career ...
For pro fighters, even a relatively small difference in weight can lead to a huge advantage. Weight classes eliminate this kind of disparity, ensuring that skill remains the most important factor in determining the victor. With fewer weight classes, a smaller boxer would have poor odds of ever becoming a champion, no matter their skill. Furthermore, weight classes are designed with boxer's safety in mind. In a mismatched fight, the smaller opponent stands a much greater risk of suffering a serious injury. Simply put, boxing is dangerous enough already without pitting smaller fighters against physically larger opponents. Sportscasting | Pure Sports Why Are There So Many Boxing Weight Classes? by Rick Thomas | Published on April 14, 2020 [[[[[ ""SIZE MATTERS LIKE IT OR NOT"" ]]]]] NEVER IN THE HISTORY OF BOXING HAS A 190 LB MAN BEAT AN ELITE SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT BOXING CHAMPION. We'll never see 181lb Charles, 182lb Patterson or 184lb Marciano as 'Heavyweight' champions again.
Luckily he was able to absorb punishment. His defense was questionable. Ezzard Charles made his face look like mush. His stamina was unbelievable. Fun to watch him stalk his opponents.
I Love it-- He was an Incher! Makes sense. I guess,I do that without realizing it. 50 Years of Boxing Training here and 40 of Karate + mma. Marciano is my Fav Boxer.! I use the walking Stance from both sides and the Square Stance and,I am coming forward always. I use more the Muay Thai High Guard to guard against Hooks and High Kicks,Elbows. And Knees. I use a simple pull down string of a attic Ladder and push that forward for head movement a good 5 inches to each side. 5'9" and 225lbs from a lifetime of Lifting Heavy. I hit the 125lb Heavy Bag with no hand protection and always Focus Through. My reach- probably less then 70". Never measured it. Still training everyday at age 63.
I love that double-left hook off the jab that ko'd Matthews. Took Rocky a while to learn it. He was mostly just a right-hand fighter at the time he fought Rex Layne, but then he learned how to use his left in basic ways just in time for his fights with Louis and Savold, and finally perfected it with Matthews, in preparation for Walcott.
Size obviously matters otherwise boxing wouldn't have 18 different weight classes. Featherweights would be fightin middleweights and cruisers would be fightin Super Heavies. There are no height divisions, age divisions or reach division, because weight at heavyweight boxing is one of the most important factor. Super Heavyweights are increasing because eastern European fighters are now allowed to fight in USA since around 2000 and international travel is much easier compared to 30 40 50 years ago. Perfect example would be the Klitschko brothers who dominated Super Heavyweight boxing for 20YRS!!! "The heavier opponent will have an advantage as they have increased muscle mass, allowing them to hit harder and withstand strikes from their opponent more easily. It is for this reason that combat sports separate fighters based on weight class" - by MMA Combat Sports Boxing has evolved: [[[[[ ""SIZE MATTERS LIKE IT OR NOT"" ]]]]] NEVER IN THE HISTORY OF BOXING HAS A 190 LB MAN BEAT AN ELITE SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT BOXING CHAMPION. We'll never see 181lb Charles, 182lb Patterson or 184lb Marciano as 'Heavyweight' champions again. Even a new Bridgerweight division (200 to 224 lbs) has recently been added because too many 210lb heavyweights complained.
Brilliant that. Most men could never fight this way against professional fighters as it takes a god given talent to absorb punishment . When you see him hurt you see him motivated I love it . Many HWs including Big old Fury hate been hit . The best seem to thrive on it. Watched Foreman v Holyfield 7th round you can not teach a man this
The fact that Walcott was granted (6) title attempts in a (6) year span speaks volumes about how weak the Cruiserweight division was at this time! And (5) of these title opportunities came immediately after a Walcott loss! Journeyman Joe Lost (20) times and was KOd (6) times!
People should know the truth about Rocky, he was homosexual. Sorry if that hurts, but it shouldn't. He had to stay in the closet, it was just the way of the times. Today people like Rocky and me don't have to be embarrassed or feel ashamed. When I came out it was like taking a huge weight off of my shoulders. But don't wait like I did, I have a wife and kid that I would never had if I had not succumbed to the pressure of trying to act normal. I love Margot, but I'm not in love with her, and she understands, we stay together for our daughter. All three of us share the much of the same clothes, make-up, and interests. We're a pretty happy family. I still post with my alter egos Sophia, Corina, and Scarlett, it's just a fun escape I have.
Marciano said his best weight he ever fought at was, "186lbs." Tyson was 220lbs at his fastest & best. About 235lbs at his heaviest. Rocky didn't have the speed or footwork to keep Tyson away or the skill or technique to keep him off. And saying that Rocky was tough… well,, tough can get you killed in the ring against a super power puncher with superior skills. This fight wouldn't last 2 rounds with a prime Tyson. And a non-prime Tyson would still be heavier and stronger. Rocky never faced anyone of merit who was near their prime. You wouldn't want Tyson to be your first. Bigger, faster, stronger. With malicious intent. No way Rocky would beat a prime Iron Mike.
I saw a video of trainer Cus D'Amato and Muhammad Ali demonstrating boxing styles. Cus said the same thing about Rocky's bending to the side defense and how it would cause a taller fighter to reach in and become vulnerable. I think Marciano's left hand was underrated because I saw him put other fighters down with a quick double left hook. Missing in this video is how Rocky would damage a fighters arms. Ali said that even in the sparring they did for the computer "fight", the out of shape old Marciano was hurting his arms. That's something you never hear about other fighters doing.
Sonny had an-albatross 84 inch reach. Rocky had a-stubby 67 inch reach. A 17 inch reach advantage is a tall order to overcome, but when the man with the reach advantage is the most fearsome puncher in history it’s insurmountable. Marciano’s style was tailor made for Liston. Rocky would get knocked into tomorrow before he could get close enough to land any damaging shots of his own. Liston’s power and reach would have been too much for the plodding face first style of Marciano. Foreman probably the most formidable puncher in boxing history said that Liston is the only man he ever faced that made him back up and revert to boxing. Watch the footage of Foreman destroying Frazier twice and Liston destroying Patterson twice. That’s exactly what would happen to little Marciano.
@5.41 I see your left foot has stayed in position and hasn't flinched while your right foot has Cork screwed, is this what creates the power of the punch? Sorry boxing novice here
I wonder where I've seen that type of boxing ?. ... Oh I remember , a certain Mike Tyson used very similar tactics. I wonder if that's where cuz De. Mato got the idea. It's the way I fight. Why dance around , waste time and energy , get the fuck in , bust them up in the abs , then stick an overhand hook or upper cut to head. Jon done
That was a really refreshing “review / analysis” so many boxing analysts seem to be reading too much into too little. You called it as you saw it. Brilliant.
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Marciano is so wrongly called a no skill brawler when his defense was actually top notch. Man rarely got hit with a combo on film.
It’s popular to say he was just a brawler. He had great skill to go wit his conditioning, power and heart
Like iron Mike
I agree . His defence was very good as even Angelo dundee Muhammed Alis trainer commented that his defence was better than it appeared. And most people are unaware that he started boxing late so you can amagine if he had started early how much more impressive he would have been .
Agreed
Combined Walcott Charles Moore Louis already had 431 fights before they fought Rocky. Add the 96 fights Louis had during his 4 year military service, that's 527 fights not to mention Walcott and Louis retired for 6½ years. Those four were already ring worn and washed. Anyone that says otherwise is biased.
His coach Goldman: Rocky's short, stoop-shouldered and balding with two left feet. A lot of people say that he doesn't look too good in there, but the guys on the canvas don't look too good either.
Hahaha, brilliant, couldn't agree more
That was absolutely terrific MARCIANO WAS MY FAVOURITE FIGHTER CLASS ACT
I totally agree with you on Rocky style. Rocky threw punches so hard wherever he hit it would temporarily disable that part of the body. One can see on tapes that Rocky threw very fast hard punches. Most of his opponents went to the hospital for checkups.
Can really see your appreciation for boxing and great boxers from this video. Can't underestimate the power of will and conditioning.
Fran - Great analysis as we’ve come to expect. A sportswriter once asked one of Marciano’s sparring partners what it’s like to be hit by Rocky. He replied “It’s like someone is hitting you with a sack of oranges”. So many of Marciano’s opponents seemed technically superior to him on paper, but he beat them all. He had the guts of a lion, fists of steel, and incredible conditioning. Very much underrated on his defense. I’m old enough to clearly remember the sad day of his passing.
Thank you William, appreciate that and I'm glad you enjoyed it.
What did he mean by saying a sack of oranges? I don't get it?
@@aiyahuntacheimumbi236 let someone smack you with a sack of oranges. It's gonna hurt. Juice is gonna be everywhere. 😂
Yeah he was surely a hard puncher..blows was deadly..
If you're just a fan and not a student of boxing you won't see the genius of Marciano .
Ppl say Marciano was a skill less brawler and got hit too much.
I wonder how much other boxers would get hit by Moore, Charles, Louis, Walcott.
This man never gassed out with more power punches thrown than anyone has ever thrown since while being rarely hit clearly no matter the name.
Started his career very late, thought 49 bouts in only 8 years.
It’s just beyond me how ppl try to argue against him.
"like a metronome" that is the best description of Rocky I've heard
Awesome analysis. Marciano was both a volume puncher and a power puncher with insane cardio. Nobody during his era could deal with that.
Not only that but no one ever since has had such an insane amount of stamina and I doubt there will be another one anywhere soon.
a MUST read about the very disturbed psychopath Rocky Marciano ( @- 1993/08/23 THE ROCK - Sports Illustrated Vault | SI ) I'm not a hater, Marciano has always been my favorite. Rocky fans need to understand why he abandoned his kids and wife then left them penniless.
Not only the style, he had a steel hammer in each fist
Unbeaten is the story of an immigrant son who chased the American dream in the middle of the 20th Century. Marciano’s story unfolds in the back alleys of New England and the musty gyms of New York in the years after World War 2. Rocky moved through a romantic era of guys and dolls, hustlers and gamblers, crusty trainers and sleazy managers, glamorous celebrities and notorious mobsters.
What I knew about Marciano before I read the book Unbeaten was that he cowardly retired during his prime right before he would have had to fight the lik' of Patterson, Liston, and Clay to name just a few. I did not know about his conduct during World War 2 that got him locked up in jail for 2 years. I did not know of the mob's influence in his career.
Nor did i realize that his list of opponents while he was champion were of dubious quality. Joe Louis was far beyond his prime. Journeyman Joe Walcott was 38/39 years old. Former middleweight turned light heavyweight grandfather Archie Moore was 41 and Ezzard Charles best years were behind him at light heavyweight.
For the last decade of his life Marciano wandered America, disillusioned, untrusting, hiding his money, cheating on his wife, consorting with the mobsters and loansharking. He hung around with Frank Sinatra and a number of "made guys." Rocky was not a good businessperson and was lousy with investing and saving money. He left his family penniless. Again his boxing record is offset by the low level of his opponents. He died relatively young in a plane crash due to his complete disregard of intentionally flying during horrible weather conditions inorder to collect money.
Really? You just can’t help yourself, can you? Your Tourette’s is showing front and center
@@Lucille69caddy Wanna go over Marciano's opponents ONE at a time? Shall we start with his 15 opponents that had LOSING records or his opponents that had 20 30 40 50+ LOSSES and were KO'd numerous times? Walcott Charles Moore Savold LOST (113) times and were KO'd (32) times. Lowry had (57) LOSSES. Wanna continue?
I've studied EVERYONE of Marciano's opponents individually and with the exception of ONE opponent, they were all terrible. Charles was good BUT HE WAS STILL A NATURAL MIDDLEWEIGHT. Just saw a picture of Charles standing next to middleweight Sugar Ray Robinson and Robinson looked Bigger!!!
Don't get me wrong, there were some great light heavyweights during this time. But the HEAVYWEIGHT division was a complete and utter embarrassment. Rocky fans always say his opponents were bigger than he was. Then name all these Bigger opponents and let's go over their records and KO percentages one at a time.
Nobody can out-debate me. NOBODY. Wanna try? Then go for it. I'll be waiting... TIC TOC TIC TOC TIC TOC
@@Robert.Levi.Millereverybody looks like a bum compared to Marciano
Number 1coach thanks so for the skills am getting
ENJOYED YOUR VIDEO
If you watch the final moments of the knockout versus walcott in the later rounds you will see Marciano inching forward and the funny thing is the steps where he is getting close to Walcott he actually steps forward with his back foot first. Which is of course totally "wrong" about Walcott is so defensive that Marciano is basically safe and in addition to that stepping with that back foot first conceals the foward movement.
Not something you'd want to try to teach someone because even if it works in that case it's hard to judge when is the right case but damn it if it it worked for the Rock.
My grandpa met rocky at a racetrack and said when they shook hands that rockys hands felt like iron.
Amazing video. Inspires me to pursue his form I discovered even more.
Thanks, glad you like it
Excellent analysis! Here is my question. How do you counter this style?
Very good analysis Of Rocky yes i think it was his conditioning he would never stop throwing punches something like 80 plus punches a round he would just slowly beat them down with that kind of volume yes diffidently his conditioning.
Question.. I’m 16 and my dream is to fight like rocky Marciano or just the old time sluggers with a lot of work could Rocky’s style work in today’s boxing? Thank you!
Sir: didn’t he had a tremendous volume of shots ?
JOURNEYMAN JERSEY JOE WALCOTT EXPOSED
There are few heavyweight champions in the history of boxing that are better known for their losses than their wins. Jersey Joe Walcott's high profile losses is what elevated his status and built up his credentials, not his wins.
During his peak championship years, Walcott scored 7 wins with 5 KO's. Only one of those KO's came against a ranked fighter, that being Ezzard Charles. During this time Walcott also lost 7 times and suffered 10 count KO's 3 times and a 9 count once. In total fights during this time Walcott's record was 7-7. In title fights he went 2-6 with 1 KO win and 3 KO losses. He fought 3 different men in his 8 title fights, was defeated by each of them twice, KO'd by two of them and only defeated one of them.
In his overall career, Walcott had a 49-20-1 record and was KO'd 6 times (BoxRec). Based on these less than impressive stats it is difficult to consider him anymore than a good Journeyman.
Walcott scored 32 KO's in 70 fights. 8 of them came against fighters who were winless. The only two ranked fighters Walcott ever KO'd was an off the floor 10th round win over Curtis Sheppard and the lightning in the bottle KO of Ezzard Charles.
Walcott is a prime example of boxing historians rating a fighter higher than he deserves based on impressive losses. Walcott was winless in all 4 of his fights vs Louis/Marciano and was KO'd 3 times.
The fact that Walcott was granted 6 title attempts in a 6 year span speaks volumes about how weak the heavyweight division must have been at this time. Five of these title opportunities came immediately after a Walcott loss.
Had Walcott been fighting in the 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's, 2000's, there is no way he would have been granted this many opportunities after losing so many title attempts.
Walcott should at best be remembered not as a great heavyweight champion, but a good Journeyman.
JOURNEYMAN JERSEY JOE WALCOTT EXPOSED
There are few heavyweight champions in the history of boxing that are better known for their losses than their wins. Jersey Joe Walcott's high profile losses is what elevated his status and built up his credentials, not his wins.
How many losses did the BEST Heavyweight Champions of All Time have: Lewis 2,, Holmes 6,, Ali 5,, Vitali 2,, Foreman 5,, Tyson 6,, Wladimir 5,, Bowe 1,, Liston 4,, Louis 3,, Holyfield 10,, Frazier 4,, Norton 7,, Tunney 1,, Dempsey 6,, Jack Johnson 11....Who's missing? Oh, little Marciano is missing. Why? "SHOW ME A HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION WITHOUT A LOSS AND I'LL SHOW YOU A FIGHTER THAT FOUGHT A LOT OF NOBODIES" -- Lennox Lewis
Cruiserweight Journeyman Jersey Joe Walcott 49W 20L 39-Year Old Club Fighter.
Joe Louis 66W 3L Over The Hill Came Back From The Dead Before Count Dracula Of Transylvania Did.
Middleweight-Lightheavyweight-Lightcruiserweight-Ezzard Charles 95W 25L Club Fighter With More Beatings Than Curley of The Three Stooges.
Welterweight-Middleweight-Lightheavyweight-Lightcruiserweight-Archie Moore 186W 23L 41-Year Old Grandfather was Factually Born in 1913. Archie was Already Fightin Professionally When tiny Rocky was Only 12-Years Old!!!
Pick a Decade.. 60s,, 70s,, 80s,, 90s,, 2000s? He would have been destroyed in all of them! Little Marciano only steered towards zombies and mediocre opposition at best.. "Fight No One and Quit While You Are Ahead"
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genius annalysis... Rocky was hard to hit... but his counters were brutal.... I wonder how he would fare today against these boxers.. Larry Holmes disrespected "Rocky" said: he could not hold my jockstrap"!! a little passive aggressive racist comment.. back some years ago..
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Old ? Joe Louis had just come off of 8 impressive wins against top boxers right before Rocky, and George Foreman was 45 years old when he took the title.
Marciano bent a little bit too much at the waist and not enough at the knees. Mike Tyson perfected his style. Tyson threw more from the leg and hip. In my opinion that’s why Rocky had back issues at the end of his career, his form was not perfect he should’ve used in vent at the knees more
49-0 record tells me Rocco did just fine 😁
How do you think Marciano's style would be in the amateurs?
Well, if you could hit like him, there would be no problem. Even in the elite level.
Wanna go over Marciano's opponents ONE at a time? Shall we start with his FIFTEEN (15) opponents that had LOSING records or his best opponents that had 20 30 40 50+ LOSSES and were KO'd NUMEROUS TIMES? Walcott, Charles, Moore, Savold LOST ONE HUNDRED THIRTEEN (113) TIMES and were KO'd THIRTY TWO (32) TIMES. Ted Lowry had FIFTY SEVEN (57) LOSSES. Wanna continue?
I've studied EVERYONE of Marciano's opponents individually and with the exception of ONE opponent, they were all terrible. Charles was good BUT HE WAS STILL A NATURAL MIDDLEWEIGHT. Just saw a picture of Charles standing next to middleweight Sugar Ray Robinson and Robinson looked Bigger!!!
Don't get me wrong, there were some great light heavyweights during this time. But the HEAVYWEIGHT division was a complete and utter embarrassment. Rocky fans always say his opponents were bigger than he was. Then name all these Bigger opponents and let's go over their records and KO percentages one at a time.
Nobody can out-debate me. NOBODY. Wanna try? Then go for it. I'll be waiting... TIC TOC TIC TOC TIC TOC
I loved his double left hook, constant feints with his movement that desensitized his opponents defense over time. The massive leverage he was able to get into his punches from telephone booth range. His attacks were efficient like you said straightforward and non stop which can make up for lack of pure speed, by the time he let's off 10 haymakers his opponent would usually be throwing 5 or less punches with less effectiveness. His conditioning was top tier physically and mentally. A true body snatcher that even narrated "Go to the body you're losing your head" over his fight with Ezzard Charles which he eventually knocked out by missing the left hook but being pendulum like used that momentum to crank a devestating right hand over the top almost like a pitcher in baseball. His uppercuts often sent opponents clean through the ropes just look at the Joe Louis fight (color version) and his fight with Lastarza. Marciano was sheering people's teeth clean off their gums with over hand rights and bursting blood vessels in their arms by the end of the fight. He shows nice rolling techniques particularly later in his career that generated immediately into hooks rocking his opponents leaving them off leveraged(Don Cockell fight) He had that subtle awkward angle that he would induce on his opponents and even shows some back stepping into an attack if you watch the first Walcott fight. Nothing too flashy just pure heart determination and power
Great analysis
"Let's off 10 haymakers" 😂🤣😂🤣
Definitely a relentless bulldog!
The "inching forward" movement was created by Charlie Goldman. He tied RM's feet together, a little apart, in order to coach that inching movement and balance. He is a favourite of mine, he gave so much of himself to the sport, was so gracious. He was asked as fighters are so often for a prediction, "Say Rocky, what round will you knock him out?" and Marciano answered, "I hope to win." My TH-cam name comes from that quote.
HUMBLE. Something we don’t experience nowadays.
@@Lucille69caddy Wanna go over Marciano's opponents ONE at a time? Shall we start with his 15 opponents that had LOSING records or his opponents that had 20 30 40 50+ LOSSES and were KO'd numerous times? Walcott Charles Moore Savold LOST (113) times and were KO'd (32) times. Lowry had (57) LOSSES. Wanna continue?
I've studied EVERYONE of Marciano's opponents individually and with the exception of ONE opponent, they were all terrible. Charles was good BUT HE WAS STILL A NATURAL MIDDLEWEIGHT. Just saw a picture of Charles standing next to middleweight Sugar Ray Robinson and Robinson looked Bigger!!!
Don't get me wrong, there were some great light heavyweights during this time. But the HEAVYWEIGHT division was a complete and utter embarrassment. Rocky fans always say his opponents were bigger than he was. Then name all these Bigger opponents and let's go over their records and KO percentages one at a time.
Nobody can out-debate me. NOBODY. Wanna try? Then go for it. I'll be waiting... TIC TOC TIC TOC TIC TOC
@@Robert.Levi.Miller You need to calm down and try to behave like a man and not a blustering little nobody trying to prove himself via the shield of anonymity and a keyboard.
@Bobby D How many losses did the BEST Heavyweight Champions of All Time have: Lewis 2,, Holmes 6,, Ali 5,, Vitali 2,, Foreman 5,, Tyson 6,, Wladimir 5,, Bowe 1,, Liston 4,, Louis 3,, Holyfield 10,, Frazier 4,, Norton 7,, Tunney 1,, Dempsey 6,, Jack Johnson 11....Who's missing? Oh, little Marciano is missing. Why? "SHOW ME A HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION WITHOUT A LOSS AND I'LL SHOW YOU A FIGHTER THAT FOUGHT A LOT OF NOBODIES" -- Lennox Lewis
Cruiserweight Journeyman Jersey Joe Walcott 49W 20L 39-Year Old Club Fighter.
Joe Louis 66W 3L Over The Hill Came Back From The Dead Before Count Dracula Of Transylvania Did.
Middleweight-Lightheavyweight-Lightcruiserweight-Ezzard Charles 95W 25L Club Fighter With More Beatings Than Curley of The Three Stooges.
Welterweight-Middleweight-Lightheavyweight-Lightcruiserweight-Archie Moore 186W 23L 41-Year Old Grandfather was Factually Born in 1913. Archie was Already Fightin Professionally When tiny Rocky was Only 12-Years Old!!!
Pick a Decade.. 60s,, 70s,, 80s,, 90s,, 2000s? He would have been destroyed in all of them! Little Marciano only steered towards zombies and mediocre opposition at best.. "Fight No One and Quit While You Are Ahead"
@Bobby D 'The President' Nigerian Ike Ibeabuchi and 'The Tuamanator' Samoan David Tua had combined to throw 1,730 punches, breaking the heavyweight record set by Ali vs Frazier III. Both fighters had a brawling fight style, they were both 24 years old at the time of their epic 'tribal' battle, and they were both undefeated going in to this fight. 226lb Tua's record stood at 27-0-0 with 23KO's while 236lb Ibeabuchi's record stood at 16-0-0 with 12KO's. This fight is the stuff that dreams are made of. Both warriors stood toe to toe and gave it their all. They both showed us exceptional heart and endurance.
'The President' set an individual CompuStat record by throwing 975 punches and averaging 81 per round while both fighters set a CompuStat record (1,730) in the Heavyweight division.
I envision little light heavyweights Charles and Moore fightin 'The Tuamanator' and always end up laughing. And 'The President' woulda walked through Marciano and Walcott as if they were invisible. Little tiny dwarfism arms never fought one credible 200+lb Heavyweight let alone top-notch prime Super Heavyweights similar to Ibeabuchi and Tua.
Marciano said his best weight he ever fought at was, "186lbs." Tyson was 220lbs at his fastest & best. About 235lbs at his heaviest. Rocky didn't have the speed or footwork to keep Tyson away or the skill or technique to keep him off. And saying that Rocky was tough… well,, tough can get you killed in the ring against a super power puncher with superior skills. This fight wouldn't last 2 rounds with a prime Tyson. And a non-prime Tyson would still be heavier and stronger. Rocky never faced anyone of merit who was near their prime. You wouldn't want Tyson to be your first. Bigger, faster, stronger. With malicious intent. No way Rocky would beat a prime Iron Mike.
Don't be gay and NEVER talk about who would win in a fight! Words are for women and cowards
I am a big fan of Marciano, I think his major strength was in athleticism and absolute dedication to the sport. He was able to throw power punches no stop for the entire match. I've never seen any other heavy weight doing that. I also think that the Suzie Q was more of a mix between a hook and an uppercut with the same rotation of the torso that baseball players do (He used to be a baseball player) there was his entire weight behind that punch.
I used to love to read about and watch footage of Marciano when I first took up boxing. Obviously the massive punching power was something, but I was just in awe of the relentless determination and grit the "will to win". Great fighter.
The Rock had an indomitable will to win…relentless and brutal and a gentleman when the fight was done.
Great breakdown, love the passion and coaches eye for detail, superb!!!
Thank you, really enjoyed doing it to be honest :-)
He came on in waves he would roll into the opponent he was always moving forward never going off plan knowing eventually he will break through even when he missed he would keep following through. He had a very strong mind and belief in his skill . He was a very good boxer
Thank you Mr. Sands. Everything you communicate is pure gold. We all appreciate your generosity and mastership of the art of boxing.
Great video Mr Sands, learned a lot from it. Marciano also used his short arms to his advantage. From his crouching Style. At times he would also jump into the punch from his crouching Style.
That was a amazing breakdown , i will be trying that 15 min rocky marciano round tonight, thanks mate very much appreciated
Another crucial part of Rocky was that he lured you into his range. He came up from underneath. Once you reached him he was going to hit you first.
Please continue these type of videos and do various fighters from old/ new school!!🔥🔥🔥
So glad you made this. Rocky one of the most underrated, his style so unique and simple.
Where would you put him in your top 10 HWs all time? Thank you
Mike Tyson was gifted with type II fast-twitch muscle fibers. He came out the gate sprinting like 220 pound Quarter 🐎 Horse, while 185 pound Marciano came out the gate shuffling forward like Little 🐢Turtle. 1980's 20yr old phenom Mike easily KO's Rocky 10 outta 10 times!
Boy you really have a hang up about your Blackness!
I am white and I agree with Bobby Tyson would have killed rocky no way Tyson would lose to a 5ft10 185 pound fighter
49-0 43 kid not to bad what was Ali’s record 53-6 if ali was the greatest marciano was the mentor
The people out there who disrespect Marciano don't seem to realize how truly great he was. Think about it this way...Joe Louis was champ from 37-49, followed by Ezzard Charles and Jersey Joe Walcott. Marciano beat Walcott and Charles twice. There is not a single man in Joe Louis' career that Rocky Marciano wouldn't have beaten, and he would have beaten a few of them in a more devastating fashion. Out of the champions BEFORE Louis, who would have had a chance against the Rock? Braddock? Sharkey? NO!!! You would have to go back to Dempsey or Tunney before Marciano even has to worry. AFTER Marciano does ANYONE think Patterson or Johannson beats Rocky? No. Liston wouldn't have beaten him either though that would potentially be a barn burner. SO...looking at the boxing world realistically, Marciano had the absolute potential to beat every fighter who ever put on gloves between Dempsey in 1921 and Cassius Clay in in 1964. If you look at the comments both Dempsey and Ali have made about Marciano, they werent fully convinced they could beat him either.
been waiting for this video, very underrated.
i have been trying to model my fighting style on Marciano; like him, i am not naturally gifted athletically nor do i possess very light or agile feet.
Rocky was a gifted athlete. He had tryouts for professional baseball and was middle linebacker for his hs football team. He took up boxing 🥊 in the Army
I was the same my footwork before was clumsy but if u practice often you will obtain it...the secret that I found to footwork is to take small steps and keep your back leg planted ...small steps forwards backward ..repeat look at the footwork of Shakur Stevenson and you will see what I mean nothing special but small sliding steps help keep you balanced...don't bounce either that just uses energy
Ever wonder why little Rocky Marciano is always ranked so high? Because his ranking is determined by modern computer metric algorithms. Problem is this man-made program was coded to exclude "WEIGHT" from the equation. That's why tiny-165 pound 'Heavyweight' champion Bob Fitzsimmons from the 1800s is ranked ahead of giant Riddick Bowe. How's it possible 185 pound Marciano ranks higher than Fury Holmes Lewis Vitali Wladimir Foreman Bowe Tyson etcetera? Well now we all know why!!! Even though Heavyweight champions ranged from 165 (Fitzsimmons) to 328 (Valuev) pounds, ranking bodies still exclude "WEIGHT" from their metric, even though they 'Still Acknowledge Seventeen (17) Different "WEIGHT" Classes', imagine that.
"AGE" is another code omitted from the metric. The algorithms only see Marciano fought 4 Hall of Famers and went 49-0, it doesn't see Moore was 41 years "old" and "light" heavyweight moonlighting at Heavyweight. That's why ALL Heavyweight rankings should be looked upon with a grain of salt. Unfortunately Rocky fanboys cling to his ranking as if it were life and death.
People should know the truth about Rocky, he was homosexual. Sorry if that hurts, but it shouldn't. He had to stay in the closet, it was just the way of the times. Today people like Rocky and me don't have to be embarrassed or feel ashamed. When I came out it was like taking a huge weight off of my shoulders. But don't wait like I did, I have a wife and kid that I would never had if I had not succumbed to the pressure of trying to act normal. I love Margot, but I'm not in love with her, and she understands, we stay together for our daughter. All three of us share the much of the same clothes, make-up, and interests. We're a pretty happy family. I still post with my alter egos Sophia, Corina, and Scarlett, it's just a fun escape I have.
Rocky fan-atic's describes him as being so fierce that he basically killed all 49 of his opponents in the ring. "Rocky almost killed Carmine Vingo," well Mancini 'killed' Kim, but nobody constantly brags about that like Rocky lovers do with Vingo. Y'all have these Marciano vids so saturated with ur exaggerated hyperbolic comments about Rocky's power and those 13 forced retirements, that it's laughable.
Thannk you brother amazing class
Rocky wasn't a fighter with a huge toolbox. The tools he did have, however, he was an absolute master with.
I also heard and read he was a small heavyweight which makes everything more impressive knowing that today most heavies are giants.
5ft 10inches and 189Ibs.
Some people think and they are allowed to have their opinion that today's giants would have beaten such a small man but today's giants all have one thing in common, they were all beaten by lesser men. If this is true and correct then what chance do they have against him! Answer, not much IMO. Cheers.
Great break down of a legend. To me, Rocky fought while others boxed and there is a world of difference both in mindset and skill sets.
Don't need classic combos when you're throwing 60-85 punches PER round. And hitting a 300 POUND heavy bag over and over again. Punching their arms until they drop. Then Suzie Q
I believe your teaching style is Top Notch. Thank you for passing your wisdom, knowledge and Respect of your Art 🎨🎭
I’m from Brockton. Thank you for this video! Barely ever get lessons on the legend!
He was basically the first human wrecking ball! Brutal yet beautiful!
Marciano would throw and rotate his whole body with his overhand right, landing in the southpaw stance. If he missed, he could immediately follow up with a rear left hook, again throwing his whole body into it and rotating to land back into the orthodox stance.
This style is good for beginners i think. When ever I pretend the bag is a real opponent. I normally don't get big combos off. Combos could set you up to get hit
I can tell your very passionate about Rocky’s style and its much appreciated thank you!
A brawler must know how to use his head instead of charging.
It's crazy how underrated Marciano is.
Under rated ? By who ?
@@burkaboy1 By who? People who have no sense of boxing history!!!
@@beatlejim64 he fought old men ffs !
@@beatlejim64 Name me his 5 best opponents Jim. Try to eliminate the middleweights and light heavyweights moonlighting as Heavyweights.
@@beatlejim64 not only are you clueless about boxing but casual as well
I just love the Marciano haters ! Oh Rocky did not fight anyone ... Ater Joe Louis fought Schemling his opponents were called " The Bum of the Month Club " All the Champs fought some tomato cans on their way up ... I know of 5 or 6 very good boxers that Marciano fought, Carmine Vingo was a very talented boxer making a big stir at 16-1.... Rex Layne at 34-1-2..... La Starza at 37-0... Harry Matthews at 81-3-5 . Then of course Ezzard Charles , Joe Walcott, and Archie Moore who were all considered among the great boxers of their era ... Marciano was 5'11" and 188lbs and for the Archie Moore fight he was 184 lbs at weigh in and Archie was 188 lbs... people seemed to forget Ali standing 6' 2-1/2" only weighed 208 in his prime when he was fighting all the nobodies on his way up ! Think about this , Archie Moore was about 49 yrs old when he fought Ali and he gave him a better fight than Sonny Liston...who everyone still thinks Liston was a great fighter..but Liston had one about two good wins over Patterson and the bunch of no names before that.... Give Marciano credit where credit is due he fought all the number one contenders and if you wanted him to fight 200 lb+fighters you would have to hunt them in that day and time. Joe Louis fought at 198 lbs early in his career ...
Really good insights there and certainly not much I can argue on 👍 Thanks pal
For pro fighters, even a relatively small difference in weight can lead to a huge advantage. Weight classes eliminate this kind of disparity, ensuring that skill remains the most important factor in determining the victor. With fewer weight classes, a smaller boxer would have poor odds of ever becoming a champion, no matter their skill. Furthermore, weight classes are designed with boxer's safety in mind. In a mismatched fight, the smaller opponent stands a much greater risk of suffering a serious injury. Simply put, boxing is dangerous enough already without pitting smaller fighters against physically larger opponents.
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Why Are There So Many Boxing Weight Classes?
by Rick Thomas | Published on April 14, 2020
[[[[[ ""SIZE MATTERS LIKE IT OR NOT"" ]]]]]
NEVER IN THE HISTORY OF BOXING HAS A 190 LB MAN BEAT AN ELITE SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT BOXING CHAMPION. We'll never see 181lb Charles, 182lb Patterson or 184lb Marciano as 'Heavyweight' champions again.
good work
Inching forward like one of them damn zombies out the movies, haha. You can run but you can't hide, and I'll be right here no matter what you do!
Luckily he was able to absorb punishment. His defense was questionable. Ezzard Charles made his face look like mush. His stamina was unbelievable. Fun to watch him stalk his opponents.
The Rock inched forward back foot first
The smallest, lightest heavyweight with the shortest reach ever.
You don't have to be super technical, you just need iron will power, an aggressive mindset, and out of this world conditioning!
I still can't figure out how he landed his punches which looked so slow and telegraphed.
Seems like a less is more situation and also more efficient, as you say!
14 mile run every day
I Love it-- He was an Incher! Makes sense. I guess,I do that without realizing it. 50 Years of Boxing Training here and 40 of Karate + mma.
Marciano is my Fav Boxer.!
I use the walking Stance from both sides and the Square Stance and,I am coming forward always. I use more the Muay Thai High Guard to guard against Hooks and High Kicks,Elbows. And Knees. I use a simple pull down string of a attic Ladder and push that forward for head movement a good 5 inches to each side.
5'9" and 225lbs from a lifetime of Lifting Heavy. I hit the 125lb Heavy Bag with no hand protection and always Focus Through. My reach- probably less then 70". Never measured it.
Still training everyday at age 63.
Great analysis Fran i watched some of your boxing rudiments vids over the silly lockdown time dig your style and knowledge cheers amigo
Thanks mate, appreciate you taking the time to watch and to leave a kind comment - top man 👍
The Marciano haters haven't watched this video. A young David Tua needed this video!
Yeah they have. They’re all over the place. Rocco lives rent free in their minds, and I LOVE IT😂
do you have one on Joe Frazier?
good video, the best video about rocky Marciano stile, nice and simple!!!
I love that double-left hook off the jab that ko'd Matthews.
Took Rocky a while to learn it. He was mostly just a right-hand fighter at the time he fought Rex Layne, but then he learned how to use his left in basic ways just in time for his fights with Louis and Savold, and finally perfected it with Matthews, in preparation for Walcott.
Marciano 💪🏻💥
Size obviously matters otherwise boxing wouldn't have 18 different weight classes. Featherweights would be fightin middleweights and cruisers would be fightin Super Heavies. There are no height divisions, age divisions or reach division, because weight at heavyweight boxing is one of the most important factor.
Super Heavyweights are increasing because eastern European fighters are now allowed to fight in USA since around 2000 and international travel is much easier compared to 30 40 50 years ago. Perfect example would be the Klitschko brothers who dominated Super Heavyweight boxing for 20YRS!!!
"The heavier opponent will have an advantage as they have increased muscle mass, allowing them to hit harder and withstand strikes from their opponent more easily. It is for this reason that combat sports separate fighters based on weight class" - by MMA Combat Sports
Boxing has evolved: [[[[[ ""SIZE MATTERS LIKE IT OR NOT"" ]]]]]
NEVER IN THE HISTORY OF BOXING HAS A 190 LB MAN BEAT AN ELITE SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT BOXING CHAMPION.
We'll never see 181lb Charles, 182lb Patterson or 184lb Marciano as 'Heavyweight' champions again. Even a new Bridgerweight division (200 to 224 lbs) has recently been added because too many 210lb heavyweights complained.
Brilliant that. Most men could never fight this way against professional fighters as it takes a god given talent to absorb punishment . When you see him hurt you see him motivated I love it . Many HWs including Big old Fury hate been hit . The best seem to thrive on it. Watched Foreman v Holyfield 7th round you can not teach a man this
He used his left shoulder like Mayweathers - it was like a shoulder roll defensively
I’m a subscriber, so this is constructive. You keep used the word regime when you mean regimen. Love your content coach.
Thank you 😂, I'm used to being constantly corrected on pretty much everything by my son...so all good
In the clips I watched, one thing that stood out to me was his ability to avoid punishment after missed haymakers.
The fact that Walcott was granted (6) title attempts in a (6) year span speaks volumes about how weak the Cruiserweight division was at this time! And (5) of these title opportunities came immediately after a Walcott loss! Journeyman Joe Lost (20) times and was KOd (6) times!
People should know the truth about Rocky, he was homosexual. Sorry if that hurts, but it shouldn't. He had to stay in the closet, it was just the way of the times. Today people like Rocky and me don't have to be embarrassed or feel ashamed. When I came out it was like taking a huge weight off of my shoulders. But don't wait like I did, I have a wife and kid that I would never had if I had not succumbed to the pressure of trying to act normal. I love Margot, but I'm not in love with her, and she understands, we stay together for our daughter. All three of us share the much of the same clothes, make-up, and interests. We're a pretty happy family. I still post with my alter egos Sophia, Corina, and Scarlett, it's just a fun escape I have.
excellent.
Marciano said his best weight he ever fought at was, "186lbs." Tyson was 220lbs at his fastest & best. About 235lbs at his heaviest. Rocky didn't have the speed or footwork to keep Tyson away or the skill or technique to keep him off. And saying that Rocky was tough… well,, tough can get you killed in the ring against a super power puncher with superior skills. This fight wouldn't last 2 rounds with a prime Tyson. And a non-prime Tyson would still be heavier and stronger. Rocky never faced anyone of merit who was near their prime. You wouldn't want Tyson to be your first. Bigger, faster, stronger. With malicious intent. No way Rocky would beat a prime Iron Mike.
I saw a video of trainer Cus D'Amato and Muhammad Ali demonstrating boxing styles. Cus said the same thing about Rocky's bending to the side defense and how it would cause a taller fighter to reach in and become vulnerable. I think Marciano's left hand was underrated because I saw him put other fighters down with a quick double left hook.
Missing in this video is how Rocky would damage a fighters arms. Ali said that even in the sparring they did for the computer "fight", the out of shape old Marciano was hurting his arms. That's something you never hear about other fighters doing.
Sonny had an-albatross 84 inch reach. Rocky had a-stubby 67 inch reach. A 17 inch reach advantage is a tall order to overcome, but when the man with the reach advantage is the most fearsome puncher in history it’s insurmountable. Marciano’s style was tailor made for Liston. Rocky would get knocked into tomorrow before he could get close enough to land any damaging shots of his own. Liston’s power and reach would have been too much for the plodding face first style of Marciano.
Foreman probably the most formidable puncher in boxing history said that Liston is the only man he ever faced that made him back up and revert to boxing. Watch the footage of Foreman destroying Frazier twice and Liston destroying Patterson twice. That’s exactly what would happen to little Marciano.
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@5.41 I see your left foot has stayed in position and hasn't flinched while your right foot has Cork screwed, is this what creates the power of the punch? Sorry boxing novice here
I wonder where I've seen that type of boxing ?. ... Oh I remember , a certain Mike Tyson used very similar tactics. I wonder if that's where cuz De. Mato got the idea. It's the way I fight. Why dance around , waste time and energy , get the fuck in , bust them up in the abs , then stick an overhand hook or upper cut to head. Jon done
Thank you for posting. I don't box, I do karate, but this is still helpful for me.
I think Rocky for punching angles, both in defense and offensive punches. He would slip out, the opponent not getting a clean shot.
That was a really refreshing “review / analysis” so many boxing analysts seem to be reading too much into too little. You called it as you saw it. Brilliant.
I appreciate that, thank you
Mate do you think his style would work today or would he get flattened ? Disregarding size
The one thing that Rocky did was throw 100 power punches per round for 15 rounds no heavyweight ever had better conditioning
Excellent video
just coming onto this video now, would this style of boxing work today? would love your thoughts