Windows XP is (mostly) safe on the Internet in 2024
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ต.ค. 2024
- This is what REALLY happens when you connect XP to the internet in 2024. No instantaneous infection. Why? Well, today, almost everyone uses a router to connect to the Internet. It'd be really stupid to not use one if you just want to connect for personal use...
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Edit: Eric seems to have been using SP2 or above based on the fact that security center was installed. Not SP1.
If I got anything wrong or inaccurate in this video, leave a comment under here.
I will try to correct every mistake found.
@@hypnosis70no your life is lagging because of your network
Off topic but Eric made another video for windows 98, so I think we should myth bust this bc I used 98 and it works fine
th-cam.com/video/o6mWLVB_uVg/w-d-xo.html
@@hex4logy ping 999+
My biggest issue with that video is the video creator is making weird statements "I don't think Windows XP's firewall is actually very secure"(???) or "I guess this is a stealer" or opening Process Monitor without understanding what it all means (like getting shocked at RegOpenKey or Image File Execution Options).
It's ok for people to not have in-depth knowledge about security, but it's annoying when these people pass off their incomplete knowledge to others.
Fricking agree.
Absolutely. Perhaps most odd of all is the juxtaposition of him being "knowledgeable enough" (not that it's particularly complex, but you catch my drift) *to* expose it to the internet, but then not understanding that part of what he describes is.. very normal for applications to do.
@@holyjewelit annoys me when people just dont look it up
I'm glad you're standing up to the whole 'tHiS iS whAt HaPpEns' or 'WhAt If' clickbait thumbnails about XP and other old OSes.
They also aren't entirely honest sometimes, and I just don't bother watching those videos at all, knowing what lunacy comes from it.
Thanks for properly educating the people about Windows XP and how it is on the Internet, with, and without a firewall (through a router, of course).
What he does in his video is essentially leaving his front door open and then he wonders why people got in.
I love xp/7 so much......no ads, no bloatware, no microsoft account, no bs
7 really was the last good windows, it all went downhill from there.
7 was my Favorite Windows OS
@@CoolDudeClemWindows 11 Is Just infested with AI
dude ikr... windows 7 was also superb in performance, even in the crappiest conditions you could optimize it well enough and it worked good enough (saying this from experience)
The video itself had proper and clear warnings that the VM had a direct connection to the internet and that the VM firewall was disabled but most of the articles that talked about this video were misleading and wouldn't warn the readers about such modifications being done to the VM.
Eric also clearly explained that using such an old OS behind a router is safe as none of the ports that might be opened on such an old machine are accessible without port redirection.
I'd rather blame the medias who wrote these misleading articles which were mostly containing clickbait titles with the sole interest of making more money.
I don't recall him (directly) explaining that XP is safe to use with a router and firewall. Yes, he did explain the modifications at the beginning of the video but he still used a clickbait title, and I don't think that most of the 500K+ now people that have watched it understand there is a huge difference just by using a router.
@@laglife Yeah you're right on the fact that most of the people who watched it might not have the knowledge that is required to fully understand his video, though I think the way this video was used in most of the publicly available articles and TikTok videos isn't the way Eric intended it to be used in so I'd understand for those who don't have enough knowledge to properly understand his video but I wanna blame those who made it even more misleading for views and money.
That the thing I was also thinking about.
Because of the firewalls built in routers, the chances are somewhat the same as Windows 11 to get infected.
Thanks for the video!
It's even simpler than firewall. It's about port forwarding. If something comes from outside world then router doesn't know where to forward it unless you have specifically defined routing rules. Which is nice that since default there are no rules defined where to forward to, then it's safe by default. That alone already stops a lot of bad stuff. Of course there is firewall also but that's extra security in addition to that and is not always guaranteed with all routers - best to check what you got from your ISP.
"This 20 year old car is very unsafe by modern standarts, if you cut off the seatbelts and remove airbags"
he did mention it in the video, but i guess the title and thumbnail were enough to mislead people into thinking that windows xp can be instantly infected without doing anything, even though unless you were connecting your computer directly to the modem and had the firewall specifically turned off or were using xp sp1 you wouldnt have connected it like that
yeah typically even just a clickbaity thumbnail and title is enough to mislead people, and almost everyone at least has a router, connecting directly to modem can compromise even the latest patched Windows 11.
@@laglife well i did connect it directly to the modem when i was testing the performance of how much the router was bottlenecking the speed (sure enough, a lot) but that was only for a bit and i had a firewall and everything
@@randomgamingin144p A few seconds connected with a firewall and anti-virus probably won't infect your system, if you had left it connected for a while surely something would have gotten in.
Might do a video on that lol
Eric has connected to a special internet IPv4 to test firewall and get infected. But still, he was misleading by the title. Good job you proved you can't get infected!
i can always count on your videos for great information and a good time!
It reminds me of how someone is tried to spread fakes about Windows 7, like "Don't use Windows 7, here calculator contains some magic backdoors that can easily bring you viruses". Calculator, okay.
A typical logic of Microsoft that didn't fixed a bug with user avatars on purpose in Windows 8.1, to force users go to Windows 10 and etc.
I remember ... XP ... as soon you connected it to the internet (t-online was famous for this) it was infected immediately.
I don't remember wich sh*tware this was ... you had 1 minute to reboot. It was hard to get around it, you had not much time in 1 minute to download a cleaner and antivir.
When people asked me if I can setup their PC new, first question was, "wich provider do you have?" ... "T-Online? No thanks! diy!"
I think that's called sasser virus
shutdown -a stopped the timer
SP3 must have fixed that vulnerability
It’s really more that there was no router or firewall between XP and the open internet, any version of Windows would get trashed if connected like that
It was cause of no firewall
Windows 11 if you connected it like that it would be infected and trashed with viruses and malware too, and the search "xp sp3 worm" does not help the video at all, it denies your theory, because it is SP3 because why did he search "xp sp3 worm". He also made a video that Windows 2000 bluescreens when connecting to the Internet, even tho it only happens when you do the same as in Windows XP
@@laglifesp2 was actually the first edition of Windows to use the firewall by default. Also most bugs were not fixed in sp3, sp3 just installed updated software. SP2 had the most bug fixes out of any service pack. I'm pretty sure sp2 is why XP did way better than its initial release bc it was hated on when it was released
@@ignacyk3203 actually saw another video about windows 2000 doing that, its related to a vulnerability named EternalBlue, which is actually responsible for the WannaCry ransomware attack
If possible, can you demo it without a router but with a firewall? I am curious if the firewall is enough to prevent malware from coming in
Can you actually make a tutorial how eric completely made it unsecure? Like what steps we actually have to do to get such an insecure system, even disabling my router firewall still nothing happened.
Honestly it wouldn't be so bad if modern media weren't just content farms and did some due diligence as they would call it out.
Here's a much better video on the subject where the person was actually honest: th-cam.com/video/zao2CUAP3dU/w-d-xo.html
See, if Eric titled the video “Exposing Windows XP to the internet in 2024” I wouldn’t have taken issue with it.
@@laglife Same, it would've been interesting. However that XP worm IE window is concerning.
I have an unpatched XP machine that I connected to my wifi and left running for over 24h, just sitting, connected to the router. nothing happened. it's almost as if using a firewall protects you or something.
It's only safe to use Windows XP on the internet as long as no one else knows that you're using it despite being out of support
me who once commented on a techlinked video saying i use(d) windows xp:
hey you seem like a wise man, so tell me your thoughts about this:
Do you think Windows 10 will still be safe to use after support ends? we're 1 year away from end of support and a ton of PCs still use Windows 10, so when you have like 50% of all PCs around the world using 10, programs, apps, etc. are kind of forced to continue supporting 10, right?
yes it will, but if u want more support use 10 ltsc
In a sense yes. Windows 10 is more secure than XP. Your router and firewall is two layers of security, but windows itself is also another layer of security. Patching critical security issues on windows makes it more secure in cases where malware/viruses do somehow bypass the router and firewall
I still use windows 7,8.1 and windows 10 RTM on my main computer
Windows 10 will still be supported (officially!) through IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 until 2032, and if you have a good antivirus and firewall, you can use it indefinitely. That being said if apps start dropping support for 10 you're gonna want to upgrade
>leaves front door open
>wtf why is my TV gone????
istg these people do anything for clicks
True story. I am forcing myself to use our 20 year old Dell Dimension 3000 this week instead of my M1 MacBook Air. I have not run into any issues. Just don’t be stupid about it. It’ll be fine.
If you would turn off all security features of Win10/11 the same would happened. So what’s the point of Parkers Video? Right, try to catch clicks for his TH-cam channel with a boogeyman story that doesn't exist. Many authors and bloggers have picked it up with the very same intend.
I have another idea for them: Take classic car, cut off the brake lines and go on a highway to demonstrate how unsecure classic cars are.
Would you be able to connect windows 10 or 11 directly to the internet the same way eric did with xp to show us the difference (if any)? I've been wondering about what would happen, but I don't have the knowledge or ability to try it myself
I’ll probably do this in the future, have to mess with my router settings though
The guy in the other video connected it directly to the internet and disabled the firewall. You are connecting it directly to your router, which is NATed.
The other video wasn’t accurate since 99% of everyone on the Internet connects through some sort of router, not directly through modem today
Awesome video. I was just wondering, do you edit your videos on Linux? If so, what editor do you use? Thanks!
Thank you for this, it was a great lesson not to trust everything we see on the web.
I use XP without antivirus just fine. Thing is I don't connect it to the internet directly. My router does not forward anything to my XM virtual machine. And I don't visit malicious sites but only what I know. For example I google for firefox after fresh install and then only click on officual firefox page, I don't click random download sites. With firefox I visit those sites that I know such as Age of Empires 1/2 forums that I have known for like 20 years. So far nothing bad have happened. But if something does happen I can just restore my VM from snapshot. I use XP for old games and their modding tools in a VM so that my host computer would stay clean.
windows xp is so old that even the malware had to add system requirements
ok this is good to know, i was scared mine might get infected and shut down its network
What a shame that someone is making a fake video, and spreading fake information.
mental person detected.
It's not fake, the guy who made the original disabled the firewall to show how easy it is to get infected without a firewall.
Is that why he has an IE tab open searching for worms on XP SP3?
@@techactivate781 I didn't even notice that, hes probably doing it to know what worms infect windows xp and what service pack.
My trusty Windows XP operating system has proven its resilience against various internet threats, including viruses, throughout its extensive usage. Windows Vista is also installed and functions without any issues.
how can i make win 10 cconnect to the internet over i want to see what happens to it and i will take responsibility if people will install crack on it ?
Nice video! I kinda knew that already.
It's the same scenario as in the Windows 98 days, which depending on what you clicked on gave you a virus or not.... Just don't click on the bad things
FAFO with the Xp community, dude, you can't fake something and get away with it. Eric opening IE and f**king searching for worms just shows you he was faking that video.
We need tp stay strong as a vintage pc community and continue calling out these fakes. I have been using xp vista and 7 for years now with no issues. I am using xp 64 bit with superium web browser at the moment. Its sad we have to deal with clickbait like Erics video.
Will you ever create a Discord channel or a Matrix room? I'm kind of interested
What about windows 2000 is it safe?
Nice video!
Finally, the video we needed. So many big youtubers now saying to not use Windows XP on the internet to target us lovers of old Windows, and to push the agenda of Copilot+ and the lack of data privacy.
Glory to XP! Glory to Vista! Glory to 7! Glory to Linux!
xp is safe under a router erik had it directly connected to the internet and i think he even left the firewall on and it still got hacked
LOL, i haven't even noticed until now that he had suspicious websites
Why did he do that?
While it’s not exactly fake, it’s not very accurate either. Eric disables all Firewalls and ect, and leaves every backdoor open. He is essentially letting everyone come on his network freely. Newer Operating Systems have protection around that, but older ones don’t have as much. But then, when XP was still used, firewalls and other means of protection existed so it was never this bad, only real world scenario can be if a company really screwed up on their setup. These might be a bit far fetched, but Eric is still a good guy, I believe, his other videos are more interesting too, and I guess he also has to hit the Algorithm somehow too.
I was expecting a brief game of Maxis’s pinball during in the downtime or perhaps minesweeper but no 😂
What a shame that disable firewall & user account control in internet cafe to install gcafe apps.
Laglife being a real one
Why is the bottom at 1:05 blurred?
I accidentally messed up some text and it was too late to take down the video, re-render it, and then re-upload it when I noticed my mistake.
i dont understand this video, but please answer my question, is it safe to use windows xp connected to the internet and with supermium open or not?
Yes, it is generally safe. Most malware you'd find from downloading stuff at this point targets 7/8/10/11, XP is too old for that to run.
Just use an anti-virus just in case though
@@laglife ok
Thankyou i am going revive my pentium 4 use for play ragnarok online
literally watching this from my windows XP retro gaming machine ... xDDDDDD
Eric also made a video about same topic, but on Windows 2000. You should check it out and make a video about that
clickbaiters suck. have windows xp, vista, 7, 8.1, 10 and 11 machines and all of them are perfectly fine, regardless with no antivirus software.
whoa, "xp sp3 worm" is so fishy..
he explained what that was about like 3 times already, come on
actually you mean a firewall...
Bro has a 10mbit network
Poor guy's a known old software hater. He's jealous our OSes looks pretty, unlike his windows 11 lol
Do connect Windows Me to the internet in 2024
Turn off firewall on router.
All in the name of that sweet nectar that is TH-cam revenue and views. Eric's video was being kept recommended to me, so I blocked the channel.
Xp is the best Windows.
Why you are using Linux?
Why not?
Song name ?
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6:00 because quite literally nothing worth to hackers runs on windows 95, it's not even built on NT.
and another thing you might have missed is that in the actually competent youtuber's video, all ports which should never be open, were open, which is a quite common setup on windows xp devices still existing, whether at home, or at an organization because of "im too lazy to make this work properly with existing infrastructure, ill open everything".
god, can skids with enderman-styled videos use at least one of their braincells?
I guarantee a 98 system would still be infected if exposed to the open internet. They'll infect one just because. Also I've literally never seen a situation where every single possibly dangerous port is open, pretty sure anyone still trying to use XP in 2024 has at least a basic understanding that this would be a bad idea.
@@laglife "pretty sure anyone still trying to use XP in 2024 has at least a basic understanding that this would be a bad idea.
" well, then you're wrong! because if they were competent enough, they wouldn't be using windows xp in the first place. that simple.
No one has made their own internet setup back in the day, so no ports would be open anyway if the infrastructure was done by someone competent. If it wasn't then it being XP, 10, Linux or MacOS doesn't matter, that PC is exposed.
Also it only matters that it's a vulnerable Windows PC to make part of a botnet for example. The fact that it runs Windows 95 or 10 doesn't matter, just that it gets infected.
cool:)
7:25 ad filled website you wrote on the search history, this makes your opinion invalid
"Yo you wanted to prove this car's tires will not deflate by themselves.
They didn't deflate but since you looked for 'how to tear a hole in a tire' it makes your proof invalid."
Bro...
He claims the pc won't get infected, how is it a search about something that could get it infected proof that he faked it being safe? If anything, it should be the opposite.
Reading comprehension at its finest
I was initially going to try seeing if any ad filled site would dump malware into my system, decided to not after realizing that would be stupid since Chromium doesn't allow that anymore
Thank you for exposing this dude. That video scared me from using my old dell for playing CS. All i have is a laptop with hdmi and CS with 60hz is no fun. Now i can use the DVI and run the same monitor at 144hz. And yes, i am that cheap especially with the price of modern pcs.
The video really wasn't misleading whatsoever. I'm guessing you don't know much about how networking works, because he clearly explained the experiment.