Apologies all for the audio mess from 36:56 - 39:52. Apparently the royalty free song I used in this portion of the video had since been made not royalty free. Edit: I sorted it out with the copyright holder, audio is restored!
The audio mess isn't that big of a deal for me - the audio quality I deliver is prone to be at least as bad as what you have in that portion you mentioned. Getting Minecraft 1.12 running on Windows XP... yeah, but I saw you haven't attempted anything between 1.12 and 1.19. If you don't want to test that out, I could try to make a video about Minecraft on Windows XP myself, but unfortunately, I'm currently suffering from a slight RAM downgrade compared to my old computer (yes, I've recently switched from something with 12 GB DDR3 RAM to something with 8 GB DDR4 RAM, but the CPU of the new one is better), which shouldn't affect how much RAM I would assign to XP anyway (My default was 3 GB for 32-bit and 4 GB for 64-bit on my old computer).
@ no, downloading is just getting files from the internet onto a local storage device. Installing is applying it to your system to be used. Typically you wouldn’t say you installed ram when you mean physically swapped cards, you’d say you upgraded your ram. It just hits the ear weird and makes me think of the scam “install more ram here!” Ads that kids click on thinking it’ll make Roblox run better
When I first played Minecraft in 2010 I was actually using Windows XP and running it on a GTX 260, crazy how it's changed so much that you couldn't even conceive using that setup anymore
I was playing it from late 2010 or the very start of 2011 and Beta, and until late in 2011, when I got my first computer, I was playing on school and library computers. Pentium 4s with Windows XP and likely not more than a gig of RAM.
Well, they saw PCs were getting better and decided to break compatibility to use the extra resources. And hey, at least in terms of breaking old OSes, I get it! How many people play on WIndows XP because that's genuinely their best option? For me the oldest I've seen is someone win Windows 7. But when it comes to needing more RAM and a better CPU, I can no longer forgive it. After all, mods have been able to optimize so many tiny things, and combining all these optimizations give us *huge* gains. So if Mojang optimized better then it could at least work on older PCs.
honestly enjoyed this a lot, long form of just showing off the brainstorming and hurdles of making stuff like this work is genuinely cool to see, ez sub
Some info: Minecraft until 1.16 requires Java 8, 1.17 requires Java 16, 1.18-1.20.6 requires Java 17, and 1.21+ requires Java 21. Minecraft 1.13 made the switch from using LWJGL 2 to using LWJGL 3, which updated a lot of the system libraries the game uses. This is probably why 1.12 worked for you. I think the reason why modern versions crash might not actually be OpenGL, since you need OpenGL to start Minecraft at all, but rather because of the mouse capture. I don't think there's anything else that would require interfacing with the kernel, and it seems like you got exactly to the point where the game would capture the mouse. Since LWJGL2 probably uses a much older version of GLFW (the windowing library, it would handle mouse capture), that's why 1.12 worked fine (-ish, the weird mouse movement is just because of it being in a VM). Also you should have tried 1.16.5 because afaik it only requires OpenGL 2.1 whereas 1.17 switched to OpenGL 3.2. Though since you got 1.21 to launch this probably isn't it.
The fact it got SOOOOOOOO close is still honestly shocking and also I'm not surprised that 1.12 works semi fine with XP it's a known fact that after 1.12 Minecraft's performance took an absolute noise dive so that might also have something to do with it not wanting to be playable lol.
to be honest on my (pretty old, i5-3570k, novideo 660ti) pc, running linux, 1.21 runs way better than 1.12 or even 1.8 but then again my even older pc(core duo, intel gma 950), (also linux) it would run 1.16 at ~40-50fps, 1.12 at ~50-60fps, and 1.17 at ~5fps, because of having to render in cpu ig for modernish systems it's better optimalized, whereas for old systems not
Yeah but Sodium and Lithium exists because of bad optimizations from the game developers after 1.12, that's the reason why they created them. In short, always install both of them in any version of minecraft after 1.12 😃
So nostalgic lol. I remember my old XP laptop my great-grandmother got me. I was trying to run early minecraft 1.7 on there and all I could manage to play was some mineplex drawing mini-game and SOME hunger games maps. Great video!
MultiMC is what Prism Launcher is originally based of off, but MultiMC still supports 32bit and is based on older version of QT and in theory should support everything up from Windows 2000, so with the Extended Kernel it should be working. There's also a community build of Latest Java 22 and older for Windows XP both 32 and 64bit and I am able to run Minecraft 1.20.1 on Windows XP, I've already done it.
@@My_Old_YT_Account Some context: -There was a split in the community due to back and worth arguing between developers, so some devs from PolyMC split off to form Prism!- Edit: Corrected reply (after reading the reply below, and looking up what happened): The project lead kicked all the devs from PolyMC over politics. These devs then forked it and created Prism! PolyMC is still an usable launcher. Some people worried the project lead would infect it with malware, but that obviously hasn't happened.
1.18 being "old" and 1.12 being "windows xp native" broke me. i remember tossing between 1.7.10 and 1.12.2 for modpacks. i'm not even 25, man, i feel 80 now. (stellar video. ❤)
oh, important note actually: i was using multimc for said packs!! it was lightweight and let me chuck whatever i found in really easily. drag from downloads to modlist, run game. i used technic like every other kid, then multimc for custom packs for YEARS, then modrinth this year just for the in-app packbuilding and curse shenanigans. ..man, i really am 80 at heart. reminiscing and yapping over thaumcraft4 and custom packs that took 45 minutes to load. wondering how the tech mod geniuses built anything. and all in some random video's comments, cheers for the good times.
It's because he's running windows xp on a virtual machine on a pretty good computer, that's also why his browsing speed was quite high since usually on windows xp it would've taken at least a good few 4-5 seconds minimum for anything to load up after searching it.
bro i grew up on this and i remmeber not being smart enough in 2012-2013 as a kid to get around the bugs and errors, I just had no idea how to fix it, but seeing you fix it makes me realize man if only i was a little more smart as a kid I coudlve been able to play all those games I couldnt. I would just find a cool game online get it and see if it launched over and over until i found one that worked, and then it crahed every 5 minutes lol. Good video man.
You might've just got me addicted to whatever kind of video type this is. Because this is really entertaining to see how far an older operating system can get oh that update conversion you talked about at the end is pretty cool. Did not think it was possible to do that
I'd suggest checking out danooct1 then. His content is definitely different then this but he uses user-made and non-user-made malware against virtual machines running windows versions as far back as Win95-98. Been a long time watcher of him so if you do stop by, I'd suggest watching his most popular videos first!
@@MickmickWashesThings_Official It's unfortunate OneCoreAPI is so unstable given it's otherwise a fantastic idea. I personally don't use it on my XPx64 Workstation as a result.
Just legacy lancher work in xp but dont install all one-core-api components (I had the same problem (warning icon, at top of the left and all websites were unreachable)). In my case all certificates won't work, I didn't test xp updates.
6:48 funny thing is, the number is probably higher now, you just don't get to see where it's running. Android runs java, and it's very popular outside the US (idk how you guys deal with apple, their products suck), lots of different programs use java, backend services, interfaces on devices like car panels, fridges, etc, may use Java, and Minecraft java edition still runs java, you just download the executable with Minecraft now, you don't need to install it manually.
@@ThEspectrum20 java is a programming language, it's not like a side app or something that you need to play pojav or minecraft in general, it's also the reason why minecraft now has 2 separate versions, the original one a.k.a "Java version" and the newer one "Bedrock Version". the creator, notch decided to create minecraft with the java programming language, it's pretty old for nowadays, hence why it's a bit struggle to install Minecraft's "java version" compared to the "Bedrock version".
no offense intended here but i presume you're really young/have never windows xp? those sounds are normal even nostalgic to me, cuz i was born in 2001 :p
This is a good video! One suggestion I have is at around ~9:13, when you open up the properties for ATLauncher, there was a little message that said something of the sorts that the file may have come from another computer and might be blocked, and you had an option to unblock the launcher. Maybe that could've dome something?
Okay. I really love this video. I lovw how you didn't just cut the parts where you had to research and skip. I learned SOOOOO MUCH from this video. You are a legend. Permanent Subcriber!!!!!!!
Dude doesn't know how to read, he's downloading a 64 bit launcher and he's surprized it doesn't work. It's pretty easy to verify if your executable is 64bit or 32bit, just open it with an hex editor and look at the PE signature, if you see 0x8664 it's 64bit, if you see 0x014c it's 32bit. You can even do this with notepad instead of hex editor but it's kinda cringe...
I think its really funny how I saw Prism Launcher and thought, "Wow, that looks like MultiMC" and you saw MultiMC and thought, "This just looks like Prism Launcher"
Not very complicated. MC at the end just depends on a few libraries and frameworks (New Java, new OpenGL, etc) if you knew that info since the start, you can probably get it running within 20mins if i'm being honest
The mouse issues can be fixed in VMware’s preferences, in the Mouse catergory Java 8 can support up to 1.16 And 3D acceleration could fix the OpenGL issues.
Hey, skip here I tried doing the same thing, the newest version you can run with OneCore is 1.17. To make it join worlds and servers you need to pass an argument to force it to use IPv4, otherwise it never gets past 100% and multiplayer connections fail. 1.18 and newer have some internal change that prevents them from working, because older versions work fine on the newest java versions. There are mods to make the new versions use OpenGL 2, but I couldn't get that to work in VMware so I had to use software rendering as well. There is also a mod called Not So New which forces new versions to run on Java 8, and someone managed to get it to work. I was too tired to try it though. Nice vid, it was fun to see someone else take a crack at it!
aw man, the titan launcher gave me so much nostalgia. I used to use that launcher all the time and the og titanmc server was so fun. i miss the old days of minecraft.
saw this on my feed happy to see that it is getting the attention that it should the editing is subtle but effective voice crack around 35:00 wouldve liked to see if multiplayer is possible with the essential mod this is relatable to me when i had a windows 7 laptop and upgraded to windows 10 to get minecraft working ended up losing a lot of files but got it to work the performance that i have gotten was not worth it id say just love to see windows xp as always was the first pc os i got to play with i have never seen it run this well before my pc was so trashy i am happy to see xp run this smoothly
I didn't have an attempt to run 1.21 on XP, but I found an interesting behavior where 32-bit distributions of Java don't like being given too much memory (a bit more than 1GB) for some reason, which might explain the crash right before entering the game. With several memory optimization mods (FerriteCore, ModernFix...) I could get into the game on 32-bit Java, of course with moderate memory alloc (~400MB). Hope this helps.
>Java don't like being given too much memory This is a given for both 32 and 64 though too much memory dumpsters the garbage collection system i believe
as someone who often emulates older pc and console games on contemporary hardware, it's really funny to hear that this behavior is "interesting"... like it's very common for other stuff to not like the extra space
First 1.16 on 98 now 1.21 on XP. I would imagine being on an NT Kernel not to mention much extended GPU support like the GTX 960, this would be A LOT EASIER. Windiws XP's OpenGL drivers are usually determined by the the graphics driver making OpenGL 3.2 absolutely available to have Minecraft run. Assuming Mojang doesn't yet again up minimum OpenGL requirements since 1.17.
When I was a kid I actually first played minecraft on Windows XP starting at 1.2.5 and I remember the hard cutoff for Open GL support was 1.16 the horse update.
30:16 my experience trying to join Roblox Arsenal (game I'm banned from but the ban system is so terrible that I can sometimes load in before the ban appears or sometimes completely bypass it lol) but great vid! legend putting all song names in the description ngl
Speaking of Minecraft, there's a 1.12-1.13 map that simulates Mario Kart with only commands and a resource pack... Between the songs that play on that map, there's the same one that plays on the 2:12 mark
There is another way you can run more than 4 GB of RAM under Windows XP. It's called PAE. It's a way you can address up to 128GB under 32 bit OSes as it assigns programs its own 4GB memory space while the Windows kernel keeps everything working. Originally only for windows server 2003 there's a patch to apply it to regular XP and it works mostly.
Really funny tabbing off and looking away for a moment and hearing: "Maybe it'll run this? [LOUD ERROR NOISE] "How about this?" [OTHER ERROR NOISE] over and over. Great bit
I like how you tried to enable mods without fabric enabled… Uh, also the vulkan mod isn’t compatible with pretty much every single other mod. ESPECIALLY sodium Edit: also not having a gpu driver
glad to see my favourite launcher get so close yet so far. been an ATLauncher user for many years now with no plans to stop soon, it can do anything from vanilla to custom self modded to gregtech new horizons and back again. the little launcher that could.
The funny thing is you called it Windows XP 64 bit edition, but you're on x64 edition. 64-bit edition was for an entirely different architecture, the Itanium architecture. Its stupid, I know, but there is a difference. x64 is the x86 architecture with 64 bit additions, whereas the itanium was a true 64 bit processor that failed.
The problem with the mouse happens because you're in a VM. Minecraft tries to center the mouse on the screen each frame, but the VM doesn't allow it to do that. In the next frame Minecraft checks how far the mouse is from the center, and it gets confused because the mouse never got reset to the center, so it assumes you just moved your mouse really fast between frames. This confusion causes the game to make your character turn very quickly and uncontrollably.
29:48 this takes me back. nostalgia overdose. i remember applications with a 50% or worse launch rate. like u just had to cross your fingers and then magically it would work. 1 in 5 was the worst i'd tolerate.
What a great video, it was an incredible feat to get Minecraft running on Windows XP. I have a friend who has a problem with his pc when running lol thanks to vanguard, it is a TPM related problem he has TPM 1.2 and Vanguard requires 2.0 but I have not been able to upgrade to TPM 2.0 because of the age of the computer. This video made me rethink if that problem can be fixed, if you could help me with that it would be great. Pd: I use the translator as I don't speak English very well.
Seeing this entire video makes me remember when I used to have a PC with Windows XP. Brings a lot of memories back, and makes me wish we could still have some type of "Windows XP look" on the new systems (if it's even possible with the big customization it has nowadays).
Apologies all for the audio mess from 36:56 - 39:52.
Apparently the royalty free song I used in this portion of the video had since been made not royalty free.
Edit: I sorted it out with the copyright holder, audio is restored!
it felt pretty nice man! Reminded of the good old days of windows xp and shitty microphones Haha :)
The audio mess isn't that big of a deal for me - the audio quality I deliver is prone to be at least as bad as what you have in that portion you mentioned. Getting Minecraft 1.12 running on Windows XP... yeah, but I saw you haven't attempted anything between 1.12 and 1.19. If you don't want to test that out, I could try to make a video about Minecraft on Windows XP myself, but unfortunately, I'm currently suffering from a slight RAM downgrade compared to my old computer (yes, I've recently switched from something with 12 GB DDR3 RAM to something with 8 GB DDR4 RAM, but the CPU of the new one is better), which shouldn't affect how much RAM I would assign to XP anyway (My default was 3 GB for 32-bit and 4 GB for 64-bit on my old computer).
i just thought you were running xp off an authentic computer and you switched the mic
Guess they really did train their AIs with a whole bunch of muffled voices XDDDDDD
it sounds like you recorded the audio on the vm lmao
Former Java developer here!
The reason why it works 5% of the time is because it was written in Java.
Hope that helps!
I don't think this is funny but it is
Lmao
Yup! C++ for the win ✌🏻😭
Top tier comment right here
I scrolled down to make sure this was written here.
I know you're using a VM but there was still something hilarious about hearing you unironically say "let me go install more RAM"
Even on a normal pc you can always install more physical RAM?? maybe you’re confusing it with downloading
@ no, downloading is just getting files from the internet onto a local storage device. Installing is applying it to your system to be used.
Typically you wouldn’t say you installed ram when you mean physically swapped cards, you’d say you upgraded your ram. It just hits the ear weird and makes me think of the scam “install more ram here!” Ads that kids click on thinking it’ll make Roblox run better
then u dont understand vm at all
@@memphisherrera223 lol okay. I use them regularly
@@memphisherrera223 why is every other comment on these types of videos something incredibly rude and weird like this lmao
Talk normal
37:43 I hope with your report being sent Microsoft finally addresses this issue... We need a Windows XP patch ASAP.
😂
😂😂😂
*me looking out the window of a room in flames* it got reallll bad in here
Not fair that only the government gets Windows XP patches!
Кгрнтаепи😊
Bro said a really old version of minecraft… then selected 1.18.. thanks man now I feel old 😂.
But man.. this is amazing being only 1.12 (still crazy) that is a somewhat old version. 1.12 on xp. Double nostalgia. Love it!
bro i still play in 1.16.5
Bruh, for me 1.7.10 came out a week ago... 👴
… but you have a good pc right?
I felt old because the 1.12 is the version we pirated back in High School to do Lan games during our IT class. Fucking dammit...
When I first played Minecraft in 2010 I was actually using Windows XP and running it on a GTX 260, crazy how it's changed so much that you couldn't even conceive using that setup anymore
I was playing it from late 2010 or the very start of 2011 and Beta, and until late in 2011, when I got my first computer, I was playing on school and library computers. Pentium 4s with Windows XP and likely not more than a gig of RAM.
Well, they saw PCs were getting better and decided to break compatibility to use the extra resources.
And hey, at least in terms of breaking old OSes, I get it! How many people play on WIndows XP because that's genuinely their best option?
For me the oldest I've seen is someone win Windows 7.
But when it comes to needing more RAM and a better CPU, I can no longer forgive it.
After all, mods have been able to optimize so many tiny things, and combining all these optimizations give us *huge* gains.
So if Mojang optimized better then it could at least work on older PCs.
I was playing it on XP with intel built in graphics at 15 FPS. Mostly played on superflat worlds.
@@AgentM124 Superflat didn't exist when I started playing.
Same here for me, except it was 2011 on a GT220.
The “Tiny” View Distance fog has always been nostalgic to me since lol
honestly enjoyed this a lot, long form of just showing off the brainstorming and hurdles of making stuff like this work is genuinely cool to see, ez sub
same, really enjoyed it
Honestly the way I would troubleshoot problems cause I'm stupid so I just Google everything and add Reddit to the end
Another channel I enjoy who does a lot of tech stuff like that is MichaelMJD. His videos tend to be a bit more chaotic tho... 😅
After 1 month 1.22 release just in beta
Some info:
Minecraft until 1.16 requires Java 8, 1.17 requires Java 16, 1.18-1.20.6 requires Java 17, and 1.21+ requires Java 21.
Minecraft 1.13 made the switch from using LWJGL 2 to using LWJGL 3, which updated a lot of the system libraries the game uses. This is probably why 1.12 worked for you. I think the reason why modern versions crash might not actually be OpenGL, since you need OpenGL to start Minecraft at all, but rather because of the mouse capture. I don't think there's anything else that would require interfacing with the kernel, and it seems like you got exactly to the point where the game would capture the mouse. Since LWJGL2 probably uses a much older version of GLFW (the windowing library, it would handle mouse capture), that's why 1.12 worked fine (-ish, the weird mouse movement is just because of it being in a VM).
Also you should have tried 1.16.5 because afaik it only requires OpenGL 2.1 whereas 1.17 switched to OpenGL 3.2. Though since you got 1.21 to launch this probably isn't it.
There are mods for 1.17+ that change the OpenGL version back to 2.1 and it apparently works ok
1.16.5 is the last version that officially supports XP. Probably requires a compatible graphics card, which I had a GT 730 and worked just fine.
LWJGL 2 doesn't use GLFW. It uses it's own implementation called "Display".
The fact it got SOOOOOOOO close is still honestly shocking and also I'm not surprised that 1.12 works semi fine with XP it's a known fact that after 1.12 Minecraft's performance took an absolute noise dive so that might also have something to do with it not wanting to be playable lol.
probably because of things introduced in 1.13 like the flattening
@@MrPlazma1.21 is not optimized
1.12 is very good
to be honest on my (pretty old, i5-3570k, novideo 660ti) pc, running linux, 1.21 runs way better than 1.12 or even 1.8
but then again my even older pc(core duo, intel gma 950), (also linux) it would run 1.16 at ~40-50fps, 1.12 at ~50-60fps, and 1.17 at ~5fps, because of having to render in cpu
ig for modernish systems it's better optimalized, whereas for old systems not
Man I love getting the video spoiled because of a top comment
Yeah but Sodium and Lithium exists because of bad optimizations from the game developers after 1.12, that's the reason why they created them. In short, always install both of them in any version of minecraft after 1.12 😃
So nostalgic lol. I remember my old XP laptop my great-grandmother got me. I was trying to run early minecraft 1.7 on there and all I could manage to play was some mineplex drawing mini-game and SOME hunger games maps. Great video!
MultiMC is what Prism Launcher is originally based of off, but MultiMC still supports 32bit and is based on older version of QT and in theory should support everything up from Windows 2000, so with the Extended Kernel it should be working.
There's also a community build of Latest Java 22 and older for Windows XP both 32 and 64bit and I am able to run Minecraft 1.20.1 on Windows XP, I've already done it.
Hey, I would like to ask about how I can get my hands on the Java 22 community build for xp
why are you even on xp lmao
Yeah, we want to know where that java version is@@samarthdhiman7026
No, Prism is based on PolyMC which is based on MultiMC
@@My_Old_YT_Account Some context: -There was a split in the community due to back and worth arguing between developers, so some devs from PolyMC split off to form Prism!-
Edit: Corrected reply (after reading the reply below, and looking up what happened): The project lead kicked all the devs from PolyMC over politics. These devs then forked it and created Prism!
PolyMC is still an usable launcher. Some people worried the project lead would infect it with malware, but that obviously hasn't happened.
1.18 being "old" and 1.12 being "windows xp native" broke me. i remember tossing between 1.7.10 and 1.12.2 for modpacks. i'm not even 25, man, i feel 80 now.
(stellar video. ❤)
oh, important note actually: i was using multimc for said packs!! it was lightweight and let me chuck whatever i found in really easily. drag from downloads to modlist, run game.
i used technic like every other kid, then multimc for custom packs for YEARS, then modrinth this year just for the in-app packbuilding and curse shenanigans.
..man, i really am 80 at heart. reminiscing and yapping over thaumcraft4 and custom packs that took 45 minutes to load. wondering how the tech mod geniuses built anything. and all in some random video's comments, cheers for the good times.
Nice to watch someone who actually knows how to research things and problem solve haha. Nice work!
39:22 bro speaks the villager language
JAJAJAJAAJA
XD
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
hahahahaha 😂😂
This video made me realize that when I started playing Minecraft in 2011 i was still on Windows XP
So you're telling me windows xp can run minecraft with shaders at perfect fps while mine drops to 30 fps? Hell nah
Skill issue.
It's because he's running windows xp on a virtual machine on a pretty good computer, that's also why his browsing speed was quite high since usually on windows xp it would've taken at least a good few 4-5 seconds minimum for anything to load up after searching it.
That startup sound gave me the chills , haven't heard it in a long while...
Fr
you can add it to windows 10, the sound options thingy is still available and working from the xp era
@@croozerdogcan you do it for Windows 11?
@@croozerdogreplying so I can see what's your answer if it can still be in windows 11.
u must be 30 years old 🫣
bro i grew up on this and i remmeber not being smart enough in 2012-2013 as a kid to get around the bugs and errors, I just had no idea how to fix it, but seeing you fix it makes me realize man if only i was a little more smart as a kid I coudlve been able to play all those games I couldnt. I would just find a cool game online get it and see if it launched over and over until i found one that worked, and then it crahed every 5 minutes lol. Good video man.
You might've just got me addicted to whatever kind of video type this is. Because this is really entertaining to see how far an older operating system can get
oh that update conversion you talked about at the end is pretty cool. Did not think it was possible to do that
I'd suggest checking out danooct1 then. His content is definitely different then this but he uses user-made and non-user-made malware against virtual machines running windows versions as far back as Win95-98.
Been a long time watcher of him so if you do stop by, I'd suggest watching his most popular videos first!
i dont understand how you could have this much patience
One tip to fix the certificate problems is to use Legacy Update. Legacy Update has an option to update the expired root certificates to newer ones.
yeah but One Core Api doesn't like that (the machine will be unbootable)
@@MickmickWashesThings_Official wait is that why I BSOD after installing OCAPI? LegacyUpdate?
@@MickmickWashesThings_Official It's unfortunate OneCoreAPI is so unstable given it's otherwise a fantastic idea. I personally don't use it on my XPx64 Workstation as a result.
@@alexisverity47 yep
Just legacy lancher work in xp but dont install all one-core-api components (I had the same problem (warning icon, at top of the left and all websites were unreachable)). In my case all certificates won't work, I didn't test xp updates.
6:48 funny thing is, the number is probably higher now, you just don't get to see where it's running.
Android runs java, and it's very popular outside the US (idk how you guys deal with apple, their products suck), lots of different programs use java, backend services, interfaces on devices like car panels, fridges, etc, may use Java, and Minecraft java edition still runs java, you just download the executable with Minecraft now, you don't need to install it manually.
Wait, even without a launcher like Pojav?
@@ThEspectrum20 Idk what's Pojav, but unless they developed Minecraft again from scratch, yes, it still uses java in some capacity.
@@ThEspectrum20 java is a programming language, it's not like a side app or something that you need to play pojav or minecraft in general, it's also the reason why minecraft now has 2 separate versions, the original one a.k.a "Java version" and the newer one "Bedrock Version". the creator, notch decided to create minecraft with the java programming language, it's pretty old for nowadays, hence why it's a bit struggle to install Minecraft's "java version" compared to the "Bedrock version".
Love how because there was so many memes made out of the Windows XP sound effects, I always thought he edited in those sounds.
no offense intended here but i presume you're really young/have never windows xp? those sounds are normal even nostalgic to me, cuz i was born in 2001 :p
@@SONlCRUSH U get used to hearing it in meme videos over time, I used to use Windows XP on some old crappy laptop my older sibling gave me years back
@@UhhDeadly ohh gotcha ^^ i do love the memes but most of all i remember windows xp very fondly lol
@@SONlCRUSH ngl tho, hearing them is kinda nice, feels like I'm using it right now lmao
@@SONlCRUSH I was born in 2006 and missed all XP party, thats kinda sad
I loved that you showed the entire process it was very enjoyable to watch.
Ryzen 9 7900X3D with 4gb is insane
most versions of XP are 32-bit only, so they can't access more than 4 GB
@@cocoelacanth the physical address extension in question (he got 16gb detected later in the video):
@@chlorobyte that's on me then, admittedly i didn't watch the whole thing
he updated to x64 before doing that.
a x32 OS cant detect more than 4gb of rams. @@chlorobyte
@@reineIzayoi look up physical address extension which allows addressing up to 64 GB of physical ram
Awesome video man I enjoyed every second
This is a good video! One suggestion I have is at around ~9:13, when you open up the properties for ATLauncher, there was a little message that said something of the sorts that the file may have come from another computer and might be blocked, and you had an option to unblock the launcher. Maybe that could've dome something?
it would not. the extended kernel he used has a list of compatible apps, he DID NOT READ IT.
@@thecakelover4578 does that mean only the tested apps are supported? Surely there's more that aren't listed, yes?
@@koigoi yes, but don't quite expect most stuff to work, they probably won't
Okay. I really love this video. I lovw how you didn't just cut the parts where you had to research and skip. I learned SOOOOO MUCH from this video. You are a legend. Permanent Subcriber!!!!!!!
Getting an x64 version of XP would have alleviated a lot of this...
P.S. I watched the whole video...
I think he was
Or getting a 32 bit version of either Prism or MultiMC.
Dude doesn't know how to read, he's downloading a 64 bit launcher and he's surprized it doesn't work.
It's pretty easy to verify if your executable is 64bit or 32bit, just open it with an hex editor and look at the PE signature, if you see 0x8664 it's 64bit, if you see 0x014c it's 32bit. You can even do this with notepad instead of hex editor but it's kinda cringe...
@@GumSkyloard Yeah. Dude was going through a ton of sus launchers instead of just trying a well known and liked one.
@@decom707 Not to mention he forgot to install the certificate update, which would've taken 5 mins at most.
I think its really funny how I saw Prism Launcher and thought, "Wow, that looks like MultiMC" and you saw MultiMC and thought, "This just looks like Prism Launcher"
lol same
It looks similar because Prism is a fork of MMC
Love these sorts of vids and experiments!! Definitely earned a place in my playlist
it's incredibly trippy seeing "2024" and "discord" in the windows XP font and UI
can't imagine the time this must have taken. getting to the 1.21 menu was already amazing enough
That could have taken waaay less time if he acrually knew what to do before recording
@@nexonnera.k.a.8796 this is not a tutorial so no
@@hellohabibi1This is not a tutorial so yes
Not very complicated. MC at the end just depends on a few libraries and frameworks (New Java, new OpenGL, etc)
if you knew that info since the start, you can probably get it running within 20mins if i'm being honest
this is really underrated, nice video!
It's insane that this is still possible
Really cool video, great job
dude he was running sodium with fabric unchecked LMAO.. great vid btw
honestly I don't know what any of that means so I feel him
@@eggi4443 Do you know what Forge is.
Fabric is another Forge.
@@eggi4443sodium is like optifine. fabric is a mod loader
@@eggi4443 Fabric is a modloader and sodium is a mod. It's like trying to run a windows application without having windows installed
@@LucyKosaki thank you that makes sense
ALL RISE FOR THE NATIONAL ANTHEM 0:01
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Lol you're talking about the Windows XP startup you are the best 😂😂😂😂
@@Linux-Minecraft-life😂😂
yes sir
0:00 u mean
The mouse issues can be fixed in VMware’s preferences, in the Mouse catergory
Java 8 can support up to 1.16
And 3D acceleration could fix the OpenGL issues.
Hey, skip here
I tried doing the same thing, the newest version you can run with OneCore is 1.17. To make it join worlds and servers you need to pass an argument to force it to use IPv4, otherwise it never gets past 100% and multiplayer connections fail.
1.18 and newer have some internal change that prevents them from working, because older versions work fine on the newest java versions.
There are mods to make the new versions use OpenGL 2, but I couldn't get that to work in VMware so I had to use software rendering as well.
There is also a mod called Not So New which forces new versions to run on Java 8, and someone managed to get it to work. I was too tired to try it though.
Nice vid, it was fun to see someone else take a crack at it!
aw man, the titan launcher gave me so much nostalgia. I used to use that launcher all the time and the og titanmc server was so fun. i miss the old days of minecraft.
15:30 it works because you have "Physical Address Extension" which allows
OS to utilize more ram
I thought PAE only increased the 32-bit RAM limit from 2GB to 4GB.
it's mind-blowing to me that there's actually a plugin that allows people with old versions to join a new server
nice video, I loved it! It's unfortunate that it doesn't run on 1.21, but I'm impressed that you got it running at all.
saw this on my feed happy to see that it is getting the attention that it should the editing is subtle but effective voice crack around 35:00 wouldve liked to see if multiplayer is possible with the essential mod this is relatable to me when i had a windows 7 laptop and upgraded to windows 10 to get minecraft working ended up losing a lot of files but got it to work the performance that i have gotten was not worth it id say just love to see windows xp as always was the first pc os i got to play with i have never seen it run this well before my pc was so trashy i am happy to see xp run this smoothly
I didn't have an attempt to run 1.21 on XP, but I found an interesting behavior where 32-bit distributions of Java don't like being given too much memory (a bit more than 1GB) for some reason, which might explain the crash right before entering the game. With several memory optimization mods (FerriteCore, ModernFix...) I could get into the game on 32-bit Java, of course with moderate memory alloc (~400MB). Hope this helps.
>Java don't like being given too much memory
This is a given for both 32 and 64 though
too much memory dumpsters the garbage collection system i believe
as someone who often emulates older pc and console games on contemporary hardware, it's really funny to hear that this behavior is "interesting"... like it's very common for other stuff to not like the extra space
dude your dedication is incredible
Honestly it’s impressive how you got the 1.21 MENU on Windows XP.
This video is very enjoyable both to listen and watch. Good quality mic! background music, very cool!
reddit consulting simulator 2024 (good video i enjoyed it)
First 1.16 on 98 now 1.21 on XP. I would imagine being on an NT Kernel not to mention much extended GPU support like the GTX 960, this would be A LOT EASIER. Windiws XP's OpenGL drivers are usually determined by the the graphics driver making OpenGL 3.2 absolutely available to have Minecraft run. Assuming Mojang doesn't yet again up minimum OpenGL requirements since 1.17.
It was really cool to see you brainstorming on how to do this.
0:01 That windows startup music is so nostalgic
I miss that old computer
Windows sounds are nostalgic 😢
Still remember playing Minecraft 1.5.2 on a Sony Vaio desktop that ran windows xp. That desktop is long gone, but I still have the hard drive
This video brings back fond memories of playing Minecraft 1.7 on my Windows XP 32-bit computer back in 2014. Those days are long gone 😢
lol, this is just the "lets go gambling, aw dangit, aw dangit, aw dangit" meme
"insert PS2 starting screen"
Nice video Man! Very entertaining, Greetings from Argentina :D
20:44 PrisimLauncher is based on MultiMC, thats why they look so similar
Damn the dedication great video :D
PrismLauncher is a fork of MultiMC
I like how windowsXP has become a programmers brain exercise, I swear you could put stuff like this on a portfolio
modern minecraft requieres at least 2GB of allocated ram to just the game
wam
Nope, i have done it with 1gb
If you use optimisation mods such as ModernFix and FerriteCore and others, you can go way lower
My personal best is 176mb on 1.20.1
to just the game? just is not a verb, you are under arrest by the grammar police
@@CrappyProductionsOfficial Probably a language barrier
this was awesome to watch! you got so far. and congrats on the views!
5:36 you can literally just search up the dll and download it and place it in that x minecraft launcher folder instead of doing all that.
What really crazy is seeing windows Xp up-to-date with google chrome
When I was a kid I actually first played minecraft on Windows XP starting at 1.2.5 and I remember the hard cutoff for Open GL support was 1.16 the horse update.
30:16 my experience trying to join Roblox Arsenal (game I'm banned from but the ban system is so terrible that I can sometimes load in before the ban appears or sometimes completely bypass it lol)
but great vid!
legend putting all song names in the description ngl
What did you do to get banned
@@FirstnameLastname-jd4uq I disabled a moderator's discord account, however he recovered it a day later.
2:50 that restart was instant what the heck
Not the brightest bulb, are ya?
@@SwitchedUp08 What do you mean?
The restart was cut and made shorter by the editor
he meant that you are slow , and don't even know that something called editing exists@@aqwek
@@youcefdz5598 The time was exactly the same. It was 7:14, and then after it restarted it was still 7:14. I'm not slow. I do video editing as a hobby.
Frankly it's impressive that you even got into the main menu on 1.21 on XP. That's crazy that it's even possible.
41:35 when he does it
Speaking of Minecraft, there's a 1.12-1.13 map that simulates Mario Kart with only commands and a resource pack... Between the songs that play on that map, there's the same one that plays on the 2:12 mark
Is that the sethbling map?
There is another way you can run more than 4 GB of RAM under Windows XP. It's called PAE.
It's a way you can address up to 128GB under 32 bit OSes as it assigns programs its own 4GB memory space while the Windows kernel keeps everything working.
Originally only for windows server 2003 there's a patch to apply it to regular XP and it works mostly.
Really funny tabbing off and looking away for a moment and hearing:
"Maybe it'll run this?
[LOUD ERROR NOISE]
"How about this?"
[OTHER ERROR NOISE]
over and over. Great bit
Good!
On my windows, if I decrease the allocated ram, it fix the error "vm could not reserve ... object heap"
Looking at the old UI is giving me an unbelievable amount of nostalgia. Wow.
I like how you tried to enable mods without fabric enabled…
Uh, also the vulkan mod isn’t compatible with pretty much every single other mod. ESPECIALLY sodium
Edit: also not having a gpu driver
Yep I noticed that when editing, figured I'd leave it in, I discover my mistake a bit later :P
Also XP doesn't even have Vulkan support
Watching someone troubleshoot in windows XP is surprisingly entertaining
41:55 i imagined if you put 1 tnt and explode it😂
Player87 is writing. Nice video man, minecraft is really nice to look at.
0:01 THATS INSANE!!! 🤯🤯🤯
Man I haven’t heard that sound in forever 😭
not as insane as your dad leaving you
@@PSYCHO-i4pless insane than your parents not loving you
@user-ci4nw4ok3f tbh u would probably be better off if your dad left you 😂
glad to see my favourite launcher get so close yet so far.
been an ATLauncher user for many years now with no plans to stop soon, it can do anything from vanilla to custom self modded to gregtech new horizons and back again.
the little launcher that could.
W video rip xbox 360 dashboard
Hold f to show respect
@@blaketakesontheworld4491 fffffffffff
@@blaketakesontheworld4491ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
the fact that you managed to get onto the main menu is impressive!
you should include the dot between 1 and 21 in the video title
This is similar to what running any game was like when I was a kid, except we didn't have the internet
The funny thing is you called it Windows XP 64 bit edition, but you're on x64 edition. 64-bit edition was for an entirely different architecture, the Itanium architecture. Its stupid, I know, but there is a difference. x64 is the x86 architecture with 64 bit additions, whereas the itanium was a true 64 bit processor that failed.
20:47 That's because prism launcher is a fork of polyMC by the entirety of the dev team minus the leader of that project, which was a fork of MultiMC
intel64 vs amd64
"This is the best operating system, were never going to upgrade." Is how i felt about XP for real
THERE'S NO WAY IS THIS A COINCIDENCE? I WAS RECENTLY TRYING TO MAKE MINECRAFT WORK ON MY WINDOWS XP VM AND NOW HERE'S THIS!
The problem with the mouse happens because you're in a VM. Minecraft tries to center the mouse on the screen each frame, but the VM doesn't allow it to do that. In the next frame Minecraft checks how far the mouse is from the center, and it gets confused because the mouse never got reset to the center, so it assumes you just moved your mouse really fast between frames. This confusion causes the game to make your character turn very quickly and uncontrollably.
29:48 this takes me back. nostalgia overdose. i remember applications with a 50% or worse launch rate. like u just had to cross your fingers and then magically it would work. 1 in 5 was the worst i'd tolerate.
0:01 Windows XP is goat
I’m getting sick of these comments why did TH-cam start floating these to the top
I’m getting sick of these comments why did TH-cam start floating these to the top 0:01
what
"Oh cool video... let me just watch this really quic- OH MY GOODNESS 40 MINUTES"
Thank god I'm into that
PRISM LAUNCHER YOU ARE GOATED
PolyMC is better ngl
What a great video, it was an incredible feat to get Minecraft running on Windows XP. I have a friend who has a problem with his pc when running lol thanks to vanguard, it is a TPM related problem he has TPM 1.2 and Vanguard requires 2.0 but I have not been able to upgrade to TPM 2.0 because of the age of the computer. This video made me rethink if that problem can be fixed, if you could help me with that it would be great.
Pd: I use the translator as I don't speak English very well.
ryzen 9 7900x3d in a windows XP OS and 4GB ram makes me want to smash my Monitor into pieces
the virtual machine in question:
funny thing is, that configuration is literally not even possible - the smallest DDR5 sticks are 8GB
@@chlorobyte It's a Virtual Machine, he didn't give all the RAM he has to the VM, he only gave a small amount to it.
I would love for him to test this on a real Windows XP machine, virtual machine is a bit of cheating...
@@YannBOYERDev i agree
Can’t believe I was locked in watching a guy trying to get Minecraft working on windows XP for 40 mins. Great video 👍
Dude, I run Minecraft with mods relatively well (30 fps) on Windows 7 32 bits with Celeron and Geforce GT 1400 and I'm very happy.
As a fellow win 7 user I feel you. Why 32bit thought
@@plushrei5926 If I change it, won't it get slower?
@@bubobato no, probably the opposite. Only having 4gb of ram available is horrifying ngl
Gang Im on windows 10 and have an Athlon amd dual core 6400 with 4 gigs of ram and modded minecraft or terraria is always crashing on me😭😭
@@justinlawson1640 upgrade your memory, 16 GB is very much a standard now
Love how you didn't give up
Thank you i couldn't ever play minecraft because of my windows xp operation system. Now i can play minecraft.
Just buy a new pc or upgrade to Windows 7 lol
are you still on windows XP?
Upgrade to Windows 7
Seeing this entire video makes me remember when I used to have a PC with Windows XP. Brings a lot of memories back, and makes me wish we could still have some type of "Windows XP look" on the new systems (if it's even possible with the big customization it has nowadays).
This video is so frustrating, because you never seem to realize that 1.21 requires Java 21
Seeing this guy do battle with Windows was great