What MUST We Have In The PERFECT Saloon?

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  • @seattleboatguy
    @seattleboatguy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I was very impressed with your CAD animation. It illustrated your ideas in a very understandable format. Nobody does it better than you.

  • @markchodroff250
    @markchodroff250 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The door way for the wheelhouse looks great , good work ,

  • @karelundberg9523
    @karelundberg9523 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I have followed both of you and have been impressed by your knowledge and expertise. I myself have worked as an architect and interior designer for 40 years. among other things also with large ships. Your proposal with a complete half-round sofa is superior. It is worth its weight in gold. The three berths, without knowing the boat's other spaces, they should still be able to find their place somewhere there. The other proposals contained too many dubious compromises. This space is for socializing.

  • @05stones
    @05stones 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It’s very pleasant to watch your works with your father and many thanks to share with us. I’d like to see the béhaviorismes of the boat in sea

  • @T010180
    @T010180 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Each option has it's pro's and con's but I would prefer the crewcabin with the door on the side, the extra seating at the front of it and the rest I'd leave the seatingarea as it was.

    • @tigersharkboatworks
      @tigersharkboatworks  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ofcourse :) So we're going for the option with the most pros and least cons

    • @AlanKaufer-o7d
      @AlanKaufer-o7d 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m in favor of this option as well and would like to add that if lines of sight to outside views could be created or maintained that would be nice.

  • @topturretgunner
    @topturretgunner หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello Tiggerhaai from Florida. Life time love affair with sailing vessels and was privileged when I was much younger to be taught to sail a 32 foot sloop on Lake Erie. I really like two and three masted schooners and there are a few restored two masters (former New England cod schooners) here in the states. Wooden vessels that have been painstakingly restored. Your conversion and rebuild of a former tugboat is utterly fascinating and I tip my hat to you and your dad for all your hard work. She sure is a beautiful vessel and I am sure quite seaworthy! My best wishes to you and your father. Fair winds and following seas.

    • @tigersharkboatworks
      @tigersharkboatworks  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks a lot! I hope you have a great 2025 :)

  • @davidwarnes5158
    @davidwarnes5158 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Have a cabin with bunks , u shape galley is a good idea, but I would have the new top the other direction , so you are protected in a rolling sea, come into the area from aft, as the motion will be more sideways than forward backwards, try to keep the emergency exit clear of obsticles.

    • @tigersharkboatworks
      @tigersharkboatworks  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good point, we'll have to see if we can make that work, because the U will become a bit narrow

  • @torrespearls381
    @torrespearls381 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The layout is a pleasurable joy for you and Dad. Cheers to the great work you are both doing.

  • @ZwervenmetJuKi
    @ZwervenmetJuKi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Voordat jullie geen timmermannen/houtbewerkers zijn maken jullie er wel een stukje vakwerk van, complimenten hoor👍⚓😊

  • @dcallan812
    @dcallan812 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    personally I would try to leave at least one crew cabin if not both. It might be woth taking the seating right to the new part of the galley you want to add back in. That would give you chance to make a longer table, that if needed 2 chairs can be put in place for extra table settings..

    • @tigersharkboatworks
      @tigersharkboatworks  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great idea! We should be able to make that work :)

  • @jean-marievennin8405
    @jean-marievennin8405 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Saloon, I think : 2 cabins on back has better use (time Code 4.03mnt)🤨🤔😉😊
    Nice vidéo, Thank you.
    Bon courage and stay safe

    • @tigersharkboatworks
      @tigersharkboatworks  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks! For sleeping space definitely, but then where do we eat with 15 people?

  • @philippe_demartin
    @philippe_demartin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The cooking station must be on the side of the hull if you want to put it on the cardent

    • @tigersharkboatworks
      @tigersharkboatworks  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We weren't really planning to do that, on bigger ships, it's quite common to just use a stainless frame around each burner. Just gotta be careful filling pots and pans too high :)

  • @R_van_K
    @R_van_K 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Try to fit a 2-3 crewcabin in the front of the saloon, Is the red door the toilet?? Doing this will give you the option of having a big round seat with table. You'll be able to have a meal there with everyone and sleep 2-3 people (crew but watch out for nightshift!!) Also us the space behind the bench for storage, undewrneath the bench for storage. Go with the u shape kitchen but move the stove to the starboard and make it bigger, this will work with the flow of cooking. You begin forward with washing and cutting, than cooking and then you can serve on the extension next to the woodstove. Also having a woodstove greatly enhances the atmosphere in the saloon. You can use the back wall of the cabin for a TV or liquer cabinet.
    Sleeping in the saloon shoudl be avoided especially when sailing with guests, how ever if you're limited go with a well insulated or soundproofed cabin.

    • @tigersharkboatworks
      @tigersharkboatworks  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The red door is the Engineroom entrance, and left of that is the toilet. Lots of good suggestions! We can work with that, thanks!

  • @brunoapolinario4952
    @brunoapolinario4952 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did you think about the possibility to shift galley all the way to the stern area? You mentioned about the height limitation. You could get very nice saloon space. Congrats for such amazing project!!

    • @tigersharkboatworks
      @tigersharkboatworks  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, height is a problem, we wouldn't be able to stand up straight in the galley. Thanks!

  • @MartinPunter-f3n
    @MartinPunter-f3n 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gijs, ik volg jullie prachtige rebuild al een tijdje vanaf curacao. M.b.t. Jullie salon een suggestie, is er geen ruimte om het achterste deel van de salon (achter de roerkoning ) op te delen in 2 delen met een langscheeps schot, op die manier creer je 2 slaaphutten. Achter in beide hutten tegen het langschot een stalen ladder maken. Het dekluik is groot genoeg om vanuit beide achterhutten in nood eruit te kunnen. Kooien langs de huid hoeven niet hoog te zijn om te kunnen slapen en er is dan ook nog de mogelijkheid om langs het langschot iets van een kast of lades te maken. Jullie resterende salon wordt dan ook iets groter. Succes met jullie prachtige project!

    • @tigersharkboatworks
      @tigersharkboatworks  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bedankt! We beginnen zelf ook steeds meer in die richting te denken. In ieder geval het schot achter de roerkoning, en of we dat dan nog in de lengte splitsen, of dat het een soort bemanningsverblijfje wordt met 3/4 kooien moeten we nog even zien :)

    • @MartinPunter-f3n
      @MartinPunter-f3n 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Gijs een extra argument om de achterhut met een langsschot op te delen zou kunnen zijn dat het langsschot extra ondersteuning voor het dek geeft waardoor je de huidige 2 (sta in de weg) deksteunen zou kunnen vervangen voor 2 knieen/A frame achtige steunen tegen de voorschot van de 2 nieuwe hutten. Verder met 2 hutten iets meer privacy voor crewmembers.

  • @worikben4168
    @worikben4168 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Think carefully about the location of the stove. I would position it parallel to the hull so that it can also become a gimbal stove. This way the spaghetti does not fly through the kitchen on longer passages in bad weather.

    • @tigersharkboatworks
      @tigersharkboatworks  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That is a good one! Although in my experience on bigger (sailing) ships, all of them just used frames around each burner. Maybe because bigger gimbals would need a lot of swing room

  • @wouterschijf47
    @wouterschijf47 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    mooie boat, twee mast schooner, ik heb op 3 mast Nederlandse schooners gezeild in de Carabean.

  • @stevejones9788
    @stevejones9788 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great use of well seasoned timber for those frames. Just have to be careful about old nails and screws .

    • @tigersharkboatworks
      @tigersharkboatworks  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks! Apart from their age, the wood is completely untouched :)

  • @johnharris2337
    @johnharris2337 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Have you thought of the table and seats in the middle of the floor, pushing the wall furniture back, cupboards below topped with a bunk and curtain for occasional extra bunks. A u shaped seating area facing forwards, moving the fire to a wall. Many of the larger old sailing boats have gone with this idea. Having the eating area over the screw will get annoying on long passages when you have to motor, trust me. Another advantage of a central table and seating will be safety, something to hang onto if you have hand fails along the backs.

    • @tigersharkboatworks
      @tigersharkboatworks  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good one, Iet me draw that out, it's a lot to visualize in my head

  • @graxav
    @graxav 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great Vid dudes - only suggestion I have is to consider folding beds and partitions.

  • @omvaren
    @omvaren 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Saloon: Just make a solid back wall with one door in the middle. Make 3 'kooien', steering equipment, and storage under the aft deck. In the saloon, just a round table, the stove, and the galley.

    • @tigersharkboatworks
      @tigersharkboatworks  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We are starting to consider that, but with the aft wall a bit further pushed back than where it is now :)

  • @RobertvanderWel
    @RobertvanderWel 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ik denk er zelf aan een houtkachel te plaatsen in mijn salon met kookplaten, dat zou je ook kunnen overwegen. Ik denk dat koken op houtvuur/kachel wel een extra dimensie geeft aan een reis met gasten. Bijvoorbeeld gerechten die langzaam moeten garen kunnen daar vast heel goed op. Het lijkt erop dat jij best wel wat ruimte hebt, dus je kunt zelfs een grotere met een oventje overwegen. Misschien alleen niet zo handig tijdens het zeilen zelf of met flinke deining...

    • @tigersharkboatworks
      @tigersharkboatworks  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Op onze vorige projectboot hebben we een houtfornuisje met 2 pitten en een oventje. Daarop koken gaat heel goed, maar dat doen we eigenlijk alleen in de haven of voor anker. Op zee slingert het al snel te veel om het vuur gaande te houden :)

  • @DavidMatthews-h6l
    @DavidMatthews-h6l 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great work you 2. More beds are always a plus. Not good for friends if they have to sleep on the floor.....

    • @tigersharkboatworks
      @tigersharkboatworks  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks! Friends can sleep on the table and galley countertops :)

  • @cpt.mirones5109
    @cpt.mirones5109 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What if you relocate the escape hatch to be infront of the pillar and steering rack and have a ladder going up. this could allow the sleeping bunks if keeping first layout to be moved further aft. with maybe a Raised Section on the Deck wich could be used as Table or just an area for sunbathing do gain Headroom below. honestly with the shape of the hull its a really really tough choice. perhabs just clear out the entire area and use sticks and cardboard for mock ups. its easier to judge it in person and tweak things then messing around in CAD.
    on Hawilla they had along the entire hull length bunks with curtains and a big ''living'' room with the galley in a Doghouse.

    • @tigersharkboatworks
      @tigersharkboatworks  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's taking the saloon project to a whole other level :) We're pretty happy with the poopdeck layout as is, so we're gonna figure out a saloon interior that doesn't require rearranging the deck above. Thanks for the suggestion though! It's food for thought :)
      We're aiming for a bit more luxury/comfort that on Hawilla ;)

  • @MadShadow_
    @MadShadow_ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well if you want options can you make the table so it lowers and or folds to seat height to make extra sleeping area's ?unless the supports get in the way to much.
    As for the induction plate that won't melt the power switch in rowdy weather?
    Have heard about soup falling into a corner during a voyage on a Sailboat once so. ( probably not an uncommon occurrence.)

    • @tigersharkboatworks
      @tigersharkboatworks  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Temporary beds are good to have for weekends or shorters trips with friends, but for (paying) guests and a ship that is awake 24 hours a day I think they should all have a fixed bed.
      As for the switch of the stove, I hope not 😅 and food flying around the galley is indeed not that uncommon :)

  • @Kelpie119
    @Kelpie119 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yer clever buggars 😂we’ll done 😁v.impressive

  • @Malfrador
    @Malfrador 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel like moving the escape hatch would solve a lot of space issues. For example make it a ladder straight up. Theoretically it could also be combined with the skylight, if you put hinges on that I guess? If the hatch wasn't there you could put a bunk across, which should be fine with the low ceiling height
    Alternatively maybe the cabin could be opposite to the galley too, connected to the head? There is another head if I remember correctly so it not always being usable might not be a big deal. Then you would have galley + cabin towards the bow, and a nice seating area in the back with the full width
    Really nice visualisation though, good job.

    • @tigersharkboatworks
      @tigersharkboatworks  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks! The hatches from the skylight are theoretically big enough for a person to pass, so the weather or not we use the escape hatch in the aft is not such a big deal. A bunk across underneath the deck there is a good option :)
      We will have 2 other heads on board, but I'll have to think about getting through a cabin to reach this one. Otherwise, it sounds like a good layout, thanks!

  • @juanjosegarcia8499
    @juanjosegarcia8499 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good job!😉

  • @garyunderwood1505
    @garyunderwood1505 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Higher rear seating and table would be good!

  • @arthurbouweriks5484
    @arthurbouweriks5484 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hallo Gijs en Peter. Hier een groet van verre familie. Ik hoorde jullie vanmorgen op radio langs komen. Vader en zoon die een boot aan het opknappen zijn die ooit door opa was gekocht. En dat in combinatie met de achternaam Koek. Dat moet van ome Aad zijn😁. Ik ben gelijk naar jullie op zoek gegaan en gevonden. Ik ga natuurlijk al jullie TH-cam filmpjes bekijken, gaaf is dat. Ik ben overigens Arthur Bouweriks. Mijn moeder was Jopie Koek, nicht van Aad. Wij zijn vroeger vaak bij jullie in Edam geweest😁. Vond ik altijd reuze interessant.

    • @tigersharkboatworks
      @tigersharkboatworks  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dag Arthur! Zodra pap de naam Bouweriks hoorde schoot de naam Wil hem te binnen. Hij begint meteen te oreren over allerlei familie anekdotes :) Over Hout-Koek en de Haarlemmermeer spoorlijnen. Er komt vanalles los. Leuk om van je te horen!

    • @arthurbouweriks5484
      @arthurbouweriks5484 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hoi Gijs. Ja Wil was mijn vader. Goed om te horen dat het jullie goed gaat. Reuze interessant wat jullie plannen zijn. Ik ben ook nog altijd bezig met plannen maken om als de tijd daar is met een zeilschip grote reizen te maken. Ik hou het nu nog even kleinschalig. Ik ben op dit moment een houten Nordic Folkboot aan het bouwen. Ik heb een instagram waar ik af en toe iets op zet onder de naam Maliherba. Heel leuk dat ik jullie gevonden heb en om jullie te volgen. Ik wens Peter en jou en al jullie dierbaren het aller beste toe en mochten jullie ooit om hulp verlegen zitten, dan hoor ik dat graag. Arthur.

  • @aquasapien9275
    @aquasapien9275 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Keep the bunks, but turn them to face East to west, not north to south. This will make more room for the u shaped saloon, moved forward towards the galley. The different orientation of the bunks should accommodate a smaller u shaped saloon that has been moved forward. Good luck.

    • @tigersharkboatworks
      @tigersharkboatworks  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That might be the best solution, thanks!

    • @R_van_K
      @R_van_K 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      MOving the bunks to face east west doesn't make nice sleeping during transits, that's whu most bunks are in the for-aft axis. Sleeping with your head down is killing for your sleep, a crewmember might cope with changing from time to time but guests will hate it as they're not used to it.

    • @tigersharkboatworks
      @tigersharkboatworks  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's true, it would be a compromise, but dad for one refuses to sleep in a side to side bunk :)

  • @tonyelkan5348
    @tonyelkan5348 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This may seem a bit primitive, but you could try curtains on the un-insulated windows

  • @thomasfischer6382
    @thomasfischer6382 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    how about raising the whole round seating bench, by that moving it back a bit, and then adding a crew cabin in front of it by the toilet? i don´t know if that would work out with the accaess to the toilet though.

    • @tigersharkboatworks
      @tigersharkboatworks  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We'll have to check if that works out, but it might place the cabin somewhat in the middle of the saloon

  • @reighbh13
    @reighbh13 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    have u considered a biofuel heater. same look and feel as a wood burner, but no chimney installation, it would be moveable if necessary. they dont pump out quite as much heat but you dont have 35% lost through the flue. plus greater water resistance without needing to cut a hole in the deck above.

    • @tigersharkboatworks
      @tigersharkboatworks  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But what happens with the exhaust fumes?

    • @reighbh13
      @reighbh13 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@tigersharkboatworks there isnt any as such, its similar to candles.

    • @tigersharkboatworks
      @tigersharkboatworks  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ah I see, just keep some fresh air flowing, we'll consider it!

  • @markchodroff250
    @markchodroff250 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Having two wood stoves in my house , I would put the wood stove on a outside wall , So it’s not in the way of walking or sailing! Some people say diesel stove for heat ,but getting fuel oil in some-places is very hard and expensive, wood is all over and most is for free !

    • @tigersharkboatworks
      @tigersharkboatworks  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's a valid point. And I agree with wood over diesel, we can always heat using the generator if there's no wood available, so we're staying flexible :)

  • @mvcaroline
    @mvcaroline 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Give us a full layout drawing. I am wondering if you have any hold remaining, ad if so, why not incorporate the main salon into the hold space, keep the aft cabin and build in a crew head as well. Keep the galley and mess or ward room forward of the aft cabin. There are no rules about having the galley and saloon together.

    • @tigersharkboatworks
      @tigersharkboatworks  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We have some "holdspace" remaining, but in between that and the saloon is the engine room, and we have reserved that for cabins, so we can't expand in the forward direction :)

  • @tacoboersma-n7w
    @tacoboersma-n7w 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    misschien de crew cabine meteen achter de keuken tegen het nieuwe werkblad en dan doortrekken naar achteren. dan kun je er 3 bedden in kwijt

    • @tigersharkboatworks
      @tigersharkboatworks  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dat is ook een optie die het overwegen waard is!

  • @jobbloemkool7027
    @jobbloemkool7027 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does your dad have a name too?
    Love the videos en the work your doing on the beautiful ship.
    J. Nl

    • @tigersharkboatworks
      @tigersharkboatworks  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hmm I don't know, I always call him dad ;)

  • @amunderdog
    @amunderdog 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4:04 looks good to me

  • @ulrichvoelker8604
    @ulrichvoelker8604 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hallo,
    is it possible to change the door to the toilett and place the crew cabin up front opposit the galley?

    • @tigersharkboatworks
      @tigersharkboatworks  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That would be great! But unfortunately, we can't shift the door to the side because that would be inside the engine room, and the floor is a lot lower in there.

  • @GI-AUS
    @GI-AUS 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sleeping on the saloon benches should be possible too, so the Back Rest pillows should not go all the way down, but stop about 20cm ABOVE the seat pillows, that way you have more space for your shoulders, arms, legs to sleep comfortably on the benches.

  • @bryrensexton4618
    @bryrensexton4618 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    👍!!!

  • @combatINFOcenter
    @combatINFOcenter 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Place the bunks next, parallel to the toilet, bump the kitchen aft for enough room storage & refrigerator. The u-shaped galley is good and the horseshoe seating is great. Too bad the two columns are in the way though.
    I’m sure you’ll do wonderfully whatever solution you arrive at!

    • @tigersharkboatworks
      @tigersharkboatworks  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! Gonna check if we can make that work :)

  • @nikip-xu1pm
    @nikip-xu1pm 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Having a sleeping cabin in the saloon just doesn't seem to work., Its a big ship find an alternative

    • @tigersharkboatworks
      @tigersharkboatworks  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We're still looking for alternatives, but the ship is smaller than you think :)

  • @johnandbernadette
    @johnandbernadette 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ditch the idea of the wood stove. You have to consider where to store and where to obtain the wood. A diesel stove is much easier to get fuel for, and if you are having electric stoves it means only one fuel needs to be sourced and stored.

    • @tigersharkboatworks
      @tigersharkboatworks  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      We will have floorheating in the saloon, just like in the wheelhouse, which is heated by cooling water from the engines. The stove is more of a cozy addition for cold winter nights :)

  • @JosephTabone-j4p
    @JosephTabone-j4p 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🥰🥰👍👍👍👍

  • @benmac940
    @benmac940 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Personally I don't think there is the perfect solution. How often are you going to have enough people on board to require the extra accommodation, if you think it is likely to be fairly regularly then definitely a separate cabin. Could you make a separate cabin opposite the galley perhaps or not enough space? As for the wood fire my thoughts is not very practical on a boat at sea.

    • @tigersharkboatworks
      @tigersharkboatworks  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That is true, and to be honest, we don't know what the future will bring. Opposite of the galley are the entrance to the engine room and the toilet, so then it would be a bit further to the aft, but than we're already in the middle of the saloon. We will also install floorheating in the whole saloon. The woodstove is more for at anchor or in port :)

  • @andriesscheper2022
    @andriesscheper2022 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wifi. 😅

  • @topturretgunner
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