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  • @terracottapie
    @terracottapie 7 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    Damn, you hit 5 sets in one 6 minute video. Freakin' luckbox.

  • @ulissesmonnaka5557
    @ulissesmonnaka5557 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video. If you miss the flop, should you call to see the turn in a dry board?

  • @curtiss5781
    @curtiss5781 8 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Watched one of your videos and instantly knew it's quality info, thanks for this!

    • @ThePokerBank
      @ThePokerBank  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're very welcome Curtis!

  • @ThePokerBank
    @ThePokerBank  11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you!

  • @tomandatedtyr6221
    @tomandatedtyr6221 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    May have been asked, but does this also apply to tournament poker? (same question regarding many of your other videos about specific hands.)

  • @hysae_clay_art6734
    @hysae_clay_art6734 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love how your explanations are so clear and thorough ! Understanding what lies under a strategy is the key, right ? :)

    • @ThePokerBank
      @ThePokerBank  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cheers, and you're 100% correct!

  • @bepriceless
    @bepriceless 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Old info, but I suppose it doesn't change much. I would have liked you to talk about cash game VS tournament play. Do you play it differently?

  • @BalezinD
    @BalezinD 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I find your videos most helpful with ton of correct small but very important details. Thus, I'll be able to correct my licks and play more profitably. Thanks

  • @CorvetteAustin24
    @CorvetteAustin24 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good video! Definitely a useful look at the sometimes frustrating small pocket pairs.

  • @imperatorrm
    @imperatorrm 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video. Splitsuit, The Poker Bank and Red Chip poker are fast becoming my favourite strategy sources.

  • @spencerdemarsh1707
    @spencerdemarsh1707 8 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    This worked perfectly, I got pocket 2s, called a 3 bet (with 25x) and hit my set on the flop and sent pocket kings running home to their mother.

    • @JohnSmith-cy8hq
      @JohnSmith-cy8hq 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      so you open raised 22 from which position exactly?

    • @sebastiendroletpoitras3738
      @sebastiendroletpoitras3738 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think he squeezed in the middle of it, called a raise and then called a 3bet

    • @imperatorrm
      @imperatorrm 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Well played, but calling a 3-Bet with 22 wasn't the advice here.

  • @giftos1313
    @giftos1313 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    what do you think is the most profitable way to play small pocket pairs from utg on a passive vs an aggressive table?

    • @dannydornacher8109
      @dannydornacher8109 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      full ring aggro table i am probably folding 22-55 6 max makes it very interesting decision wise.

  • @dhruvgupta7785
    @dhruvgupta7785 ปีที่แล้ว

    how about in a tournament?

  • @Danielh_22_08
    @Danielh_22_08 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Again, excellent video! Could you tell us a little more about when to preferably 3bet small pocket pairs? Is it ideal in position against players with a wide opening range who tend to be rather passive on flops that they miss? Or would that just make it a bluff 3bet with a little equity for the times we get called? Thanks James!

    • @ThePokerBank
      @ThePokerBank  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Try H. I like 3betting small pairs when villain will fold a lot (large gap between O and C ranges)...this is done as a bluff ofc.

  • @Snowy123
    @Snowy123 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    so set mining in tournament games where everyone has only 20bb is a bad idea? since you cannot get 25x of a standard 3bb open?

    • @totalhysteria
      @totalhysteria 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes, sucks when you are around 20-30bb deep. You need to be much deeper. It's a bad idea because it's a waste play. When you are 20bb deep you will lose way too much of your stack trying to hit something you simply won't hit enough times. It's also a bad idea because other players are also short so they are more likely to shove hands. Which means you can't be sure to even see the flop.

    • @dimitrispolitis9393
      @dimitrispolitis9393 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      So you just wait to blind out ? @@totalhysteria

    • @totalhysteria
      @totalhysteria 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@dimitrispolitis9393 Haha no, of course I will still shove in the right moment to be sure I don't blind out. But setmining is not a great strategy when you are shortstacked in general. It's usually better to shove or fold small pp rather than just call and hope to get lucky on the flop.

    • @TheGuyCalledX
      @TheGuyCalledX 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      When you're

    • @totalhysteria
      @totalhysteria 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheGuyCalledX Good explanation. Small pp are still useful but you just have to change approach and understand how to play them when you get shorter.

  • @zeroshelfqueens
    @zeroshelfqueens 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This guy imo is the best instructor

  • @johnatantamayo9104
    @johnatantamayo9104 10 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    this topic is perfectly explained. thank you so much.

  • @iaadadel
    @iaadadel 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please add a final summary of steps to take ,m still a lil confused

  • @muel294
    @muel294 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    These videos are fantastic. Do you ever do work for pokerstrategy.com?

    • @ThePokerBank
      @ThePokerBank  10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! I believe SplitSuit has at least 5 videos on PokerStrategy.

  • @shawkinguk
    @shawkinguk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yo I’ve been burning money setmining
    I should have a gt3 by now!

  • @netplayer90
    @netplayer90 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please can you define a squeezer for me thanks

    • @splitsuit
      @splitsuit 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      A squeeze is a 3bet when there is a raise and then 1 (or more callers). I did a complete video on it here that might help: th-cam.com/video/LU21vpLwApo/w-d-xo.html

    • @netplayer90
      @netplayer90 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      James (SplitSuit) cheers mate 👊🏻

  • @bEddE
    @bEddE 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    so basically i would make it the 2,5% rule instead of the 5% rule? im trying to make it simple because figuring out how much $0,16 x 25 is might be tough at the table. especially when multitabling. figuring out how big the bet is in compareance to the effective stack size is much quicker and easier.

    • @ThePokerBank
      @ThePokerBank  10 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are correct, yes. It makes it the 2.5x rule instead :)

    • @pedrocasaleslins2043
      @pedrocasaleslins2043 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +The Poker Bank should it be 4% instead, no? cause 3 is 4% of 75 ( the minimum required in the first example)

  • @tomk1412
    @tomk1412 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    being results orientated, I missed a big one. $1/$2 game UTG opens to $20 CO flats (tight old man) I am sitting OTB with 44. I elected to fold and sure enough 4 on the door. I wont tell you if it would have held up because regardless I folded. I want to say fold was good because I am looking at a 2 outer.

  • @sebastiendroletpoitras3738
    @sebastiendroletpoitras3738 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video, totally enjoyed it. My only question would be, since low stakes live cash game are usually raising bigger than online, does it mean we just can never setmine profitably unless both players have doubled up? exemple 1/2 : max buy-in is 200$, raises are between 10-20$ preflop...so unless we are both deeper there is simply no good spot to setmine i guess. Same goes for 2/5, max buy-in is 500$ and raises are 25-50$

    • @_krutches
      @_krutches 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      THIS.
      My 2/2 NL game has a max buy in of 150 and an average open raise size is from 6 to 15, depending on the table dynamics. Even with a 6 dollar open, it would be impossible to get a 25x. I think for live, maybe around a 12x-15x would make more sense, that way a $10 open with a $150 stack would be reasonable. Would like to see what SplitSuit has to say about this.

    • @joshwilliamson1814
      @joshwilliamson1814 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, so the goal here is profitability. I'm used to an interesting dynamic as well, in Colorado where there is $100 max spread limit games. So, I have both the buy-in problem that you guys have highlighted, and the fact that I can only wager $100 on 3 streets; in other words, very hard to get paid off, and even when you do, it's $300.
      So I think you just have to take that into account - which is what he stated, more of less, and set-mine only in optimal conditions. I simply use the 5/10 rule for that part of the problem since the 25x rule is simply not realistic in most of these cases. However, as I say that, these games are also annoying limp call games, most of the time, which puts the 25x thing back in play - if someone limps for $2, with a $200 stack (extremely common) we have our 25x criteria - the problem is that they are limping such an enormously wide range they never have anything to pay us off - so, yeah, 5/10 rule in these games amongst all the other factors he highlighted in the video.

  • @bbroegger
    @bbroegger 10 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    awwweeesoooooome, ive been setmining WRONG for a long time !! thank you !!

  • @JimCarel
    @JimCarel 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    great videoo but you have sometimes to play sp in the blinds vs a steal raise. not because you think you get paid of of his weak range, but for the fact that you can represent a strong hand. if someone knews that you never plays sp in sou a situatian thats exploitable. but as always great video

  • @24magiccarrot
    @24magiccarrot 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If there are lots of fish at your table when you do have a marginal decision like small pocket pairs, your best bet is to fold, against fish you are always going to get better opportunities there is no need to fight for the marginal spots.

  • @jhonjohnjonjondoe5011
    @jhonjohnjonjondoe5011 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I do think we should take in to consideration that when a guy has 60BB he is much more likely to be a weaker player who will likely either stack off post flop with one pair and or check fold when he misses or maybe even check call A high

    • @jhonjohnjonjondoe5011
      @jhonjohnjonjondoe5011 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      which makes me think for those guys that would be a 20x which makes me think means the 20x buffer rule will be more applicable for such a situation.

  • @azorelnero5568
    @azorelnero5568 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice and Good Explanation .....Thank YOU !

  • @OMGItsRonaldJenkees
    @OMGItsRonaldJenkees 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    very good video and i loved the dream-animation at min. 3:15, omg that was awesome!

    • @splitsuit
      @splitsuit 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you =) I really hope you are the real Jenkees...as that would make my year =)

  • @11FBA11
    @11FBA11 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    cool, this does help.