10% OFF Tangem use code “Cyberscrilla” ALSO 🚨 Unfortunately Trezor has discontinued our main discount code. Please use our link to view the latest discounts on the Safe 3: LINK: trezor.io/trezor-safe-3?transaction_id=102e219fe8905a139e43116daf9b7c&offer_id=169&affiliate_id=10648 Thank you, Alex
Ok, I've started Down the rabbit hole. I've narrowed my first wallet to these two... Which do you suggest for someone looking to just invest, not daily transactions, just monthly investments but not looking to leave on exchange
What do you think about having 2 HW? 1 as a warm wallet for smart contract transactions (buying and selling small cap tokens, listing NFTs, etc.) and the other is used as a really cold wallet (not using smart contracts at all, only sending and receiving crypto). I'm thinking about using Tangem as a warm wallet and Trezor Safe 3 as a cold wallet.
What about wallet fees? When you use the Trezor or Tangem wallets and send/crypto aren't you charged fees? Is Trevor or Tangem more expensive regarding these fees? Thank you for the great and informative video!
Just got my tangem last week. I love it. Just bough some more XRP directly in the app and 3 minutes later its in the wallet. Cant wait for the PayPal option to become active.
If you lose your hardware and your seed phrase with the any hardware wallet you loose all your coins. You can make two copies of your seed phrase and store them but then you are right back where the Tangem is. The odds of losing all your Tangem cards simultaneously is slim to none and I hear Slim left town. Trezor makes an excellent wallet but I don't see security as the major differentiator. I see the lack of HD support as the biggest drawback to Tangem. Big privacy issue but not a security issue.
The thing i don't like about tangem is that (please correct me if i am wrong) it looks like if you chose to generate the seed phrase instead of letting the card use it, it becomes a more fancy hot wallet.
That’s not correct. A cold wallet means the private key is stored offline on the device. This is still the case with Tangem. With a hot wallet, the key is stored in the software which is connected to the internet. - Alex
@@cyberscrilla but isn't the private key/seed phrase generated while using the internet? (When you generate it yourself and not with the card) (Thank you for answering the comments, you are of great help)
Thanks for watching! And that’s completely fine. The wallet isn’t attached to your phone. Your private keys and signing of transactions is done by your card. All you have to do is download the Tangem app on your new phone, scan the card, and enter your access code. - Alex
@jamesgeorge65 The one thing about Tangem is that its firmware is closed sourced (but it has been audited by two cybersecurity companies). This is a personal preference though. Some people prefer closed source, others open. The Tangem app is 100% open source though. Trezor on the other hand is 100% open source. Both secure wallets in my experience
I have both these and I love them both, Trezor now has trezor light for the mobile I use the Shamir back up but can’t remember how many shares are required but I have everything recorded so hopefully ok. The hidden wallet option is great I hope Tangem helps with this. I love the simplicity of Tangem. I’m only interested in utility coins so I just want the best wallet for security. I’ve not decided which that is but I have crypto in both. Another wallet I have is safepal s1 not sure if you have reviewed this one?
@@cyberscrilla thanks for this I will check out the new video. The safepal s1 is very similar just airgap and updated button arrangement from what I can see but it was still a great buy. I’m tempted to go for a keystone next time if it’s the best for security
The chance to have malware on your phone is pretty realistic and too high, wouldn't you say? This might be also true to your computer tho there could be more options for security software
@@cyberscrilla frankly I don't know I read tangem reviews on the google app store and people seem to have issues I wonder which way to go. Might start with Trezor and once I feel i need mobile support might jump into Tangem
You don’t know if you’ve had malware on your phone? And not sure what you mean? Tangem is highly rated on both Google Play and App Store. There are always going to be negative reviews, but the positive reviews outweigh the negative reviews by far. It’s not perfect by any means, nothing in crypto is, but ime Tangem has been great
So you’re saying you won’t update your wallet? To answer your question: No, it wouldn’t be compromised just because you don’t update it. But updates are crucial for usability. I’d update it as often as possible. But if you’re just going to stash it away for a couple years, it will remain safe.
Idk what “best for everything” means. There’s several factors to consider: • Coin support. Which one supports the tokens you want to hold and manage? • Skill level. Tangem is the most user-friendly wallet on the market. If you’re not tech savvy, this might be a good option. Otherwise, Trezor is also fairly user friendly. • Compatibility. Do you prefer desktop or mobile? Trezor is mainly used as a desktop device while Tangem is a mobile only wallet. • Security. Both wallets are secure. And while Trezor offers more security features, that doesn’t mean you’ll use them. Tangem has less features but is still secure and has never been hacked. • 20 vs 24 word. This depends-for 20 word are you referring to the SLIP39 backup method offered on Trezor? If so, it’s a good option because you can upgrade to multi share, later, if you want to. Otherwise, 24 words is plenty secure.
What I'm wondering is who has more coins and cheaper fees to like swap? Would it matter if u just went and did all your swaps in a hot wallet and then transfer those coins to your cold wallet?
I’d say Tangem supports more coins at the moment. And fees aren’t necessarily based on the wallet, but rather the third party used to process the swap. I’d recommend using a decentralized exchange for swaps.
Can you give me your suggestion, I received my tangem but I haven't configured it yet, I decided to opt for the seed phrase, but I don't feel very confident in a combination of just 12 words, I've been using 24 plus one passphrase in the last years. I could be being paranoid, but creating 24 and importing to tangem would be an option? In relation to the passphrase, how does it work during tangem recovery? One more question, can you tell me if the seed phrase created automatically in tangem is 12 words too?
The odds of guessing a 12 word phrase are 1 in a decillion (1 with 33 zeros after it) basically impossible. The odds of getting striked by lightning every day of your life, multiple times per day, is greater than someone guessing your 12 word phrase. If you want to import 24 words created on another wallet do that. Tangem only generates 12 which is more than enough. - Alex
It’s not officially supported. But you should be able to use it. Try using the Trezor Suite for Web in Google Chrome. You can do this before even buying the wallet.
You can use Trezor, I’m not sure about Tangem. Here’s an article from Trezor discussing connecting your wallet to your own node: blog.trezor.io/connecting-your-wallet-to-a-full-node-edf56693b545 - Alex
@@cyberscrilla But if i use wallet connect that would allow me to do transactions on desktop? I just find it easier than doing everything in a small phone screen
Sure, you can connect to a platform on your desktop via walletconnect such as a DEX or NFt marketplace, but you still have to approve the transaction via the Tangem app on mobile
@@cyberscrilla well if it's just pressing a button in the phone but all the rest is done on desktop i think it is still useful. the phone would just act like a 2fa in that case i guess
The bit about not having to worry about anything failing is definitely incorrect. 1) Manufacturing isn't perfect. Products can be shipped DOA. 2) There are for sure people that have cards which failed. I'm not sure how you haven't received any comments to that effect (or chose to ignore them?).
It’s few and far between. Obviously mistakes happen, nothing is perfect. But the majority of cards manufactured are good. I’ve received maybe one comment about a faulty card. Which doesn’t even let you set it up if that’s the case. I stand by what I said. Tangem is SOLID. Very durable
Cardano yes. The others I don’t think so. You can check all the coins they support on their site. Just scroll down until you see the coins section: tangem.com/en/
Huh... wait.. tangem does not let you import 24 keyphrase... at least that was my latest info. Only up untill 12 words, or did they somehow change it in the last 2 weeks?
That’s hard to answer as “best” is subjective. Tangem = more convenient, more durable, mobile-only, app is open source but firmware is closed Trezor = less convenient (still easy to use), desktop only, 100% open source So, depends what you’re after
I want to know if the Tangem keys are generated on software on the smartphone before sharing with the cards or on the are generated on the card. Thanks
The seed phrase is generated from 12 words in the phone, then seedphease converted into a private key which is thereafter imported into the chip of the card, and finally, the seed phrase is deleted from the phone. This process can be verified in GitHub, because the app is open source.
After watching quite a few of your videos, I am convinced to get the Tangem wallet. But I have a one concern, which is, is it safe to approved transactions based on the address you see on the app but not being able to verify it on the hardware wallet itself?
Im so sketched put by the Tangem. I received it in the mail with broken secuirty tabs on the box. Nobody talks about this. Every youtuber says "tangem tangem tangem." Show me the thousands of dollars in crytpo u have on it and il think about it.
I’ve talked about this numerous times and Tangem has already covered the issue. The broken seals although scary don’t mean anything for security. The app verifies your wallet and firmware is authentic when you set it up. And I have a large portfolio stored on my Tangem wallet.
The seed phrase is briefly displayed on the app when you create a new wallet (so you can write it down) so if malware has eyes on your phone at that brief moment of time, it could get it. It’s not likely, but not impossible
All my discount codes are in the description of each video. Except for Trezor because they wouldn’t let me put it. Doesn’t matter as Trezor has canceled ALL discount codes.
The reason there is a discount is because that is common place for affiliates. You click the link > buy > that earns a commission. You might be thinking of paid sponsorship. But, a lot of people that have paid sponsorships also have affiliate links on top of that anyway. Using affiliate links is a good idea as you usually get something for it to help incentivize the prospective buyer to click through and buy. For instance, I used somebody's affiliate referral code to buy the Keystone Pro and the Keystone 3 Pro this year as well as two cyphers. I got 30% off each order.
@@brucekempf4648 Trezor has eliminated ALL discount codes. Please reach out to them and tell them you’d like to see discount codes come back. The more people speak up, the more likely they are to bring it back
@cyberscrilla It's definitely ideal to have multiple hardware wallets. I already have some Tangem cards. Planning on getting the Trezor soon. I'll be sure to use your promo code. ✌️
10% OFF Tangem use code “Cyberscrilla”
ALSO
🚨 Unfortunately Trezor has discontinued our main discount code. Please use our link to view the latest discounts on the Safe 3:
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Thank you,
Alex
You can use your cell phone with Trezor if you use correct usb cord you can manage with cell phone on both not just desktop
Awesome thanks for thia
This*
My take is that most cryptos are lost by user mistakes and not hacking so if a wallet is secure AND simple that's the way to go.
100%. It’s almost always user error.
Ok, I've started Down the rabbit hole. I've narrowed my first wallet to these two... Which do you suggest for someone looking to just invest, not daily transactions, just monthly investments but not looking to leave on exchange
What do you think about having 2 HW? 1 as a warm wallet for smart contract transactions (buying and selling small cap tokens, listing NFTs, etc.) and the other is used as a really cold wallet (not using smart contracts at all, only sending and receiving crypto).
I'm thinking about using Tangem as a warm wallet and Trezor Safe 3 as a cold wallet.
THIS is exactly what I recommend and what I do myself.
Agree, it's a really good idea, but if so, why you need 2 HW? The warm wallet already could be coverd by onlie/software wallet, like Metamask etc.
What about wallet fees? When you use the Trezor or Tangem wallets and send/crypto aren't you charged fees? Is Trevor or Tangem more expensive regarding these fees?
Thank you for the great and informative video!
The only fees you pay when send crypto is the blockchain fee. It’s not charged by the wallet
Just got my tangem last week. I love it. Just bough some more XRP directly in the app and 3 minutes later its in the wallet. Cant wait for the PayPal option to become active.
Awesome! Glad you like it 👍
Multiple addresses and native staking will be BIG 2:03 2:05 for Tangem. “Patiently” waiting… 🤞
Right?? It’ll make Tangem all that much better!
If you lose your hardware and your seed phrase with the any hardware wallet you loose all your coins. You can make two copies of your seed phrase and store them but then you are right back where the Tangem is. The odds of losing all your Tangem cards simultaneously is slim to none and I hear Slim left town. Trezor makes an excellent wallet but I don't see security as the major differentiator. I see the lack of HD support as the biggest drawback to Tangem. Big privacy issue but not a security issue.
The thing i don't like about tangem is that (please correct me if i am wrong) it looks like if you chose to generate the seed phrase instead of letting the card use it, it becomes a more fancy hot wallet.
That’s not correct. A cold wallet means the private key is stored offline on the device. This is still the case with Tangem.
With a hot wallet, the key is stored in the software which is connected to the internet.
- Alex
@@cyberscrilla but isn't the private key/seed phrase generated while using the internet? (When you generate it yourself and not with the card) (Thank you for answering the comments, you are of great help)
@@Sheeeeesh10 thank you for your help, will probably do the same thing with an old phone. 🤝
@@Sheeeeesh10 honestly have no idea but will look into it
@sheeeeesh10 You can generate the seed phrase offline, but you need internet to complete the creation of the wallet
Thanks for the review. Not tech savvy here. What if I go with Tangem and in a year or two buy a new phone?
Thanks for watching! And that’s completely fine. The wallet isn’t attached to your phone.
Your private keys and signing of transactions is done by your card. All you have to do is download the Tangem app on your new phone, scan the card, and enter your access code.
- Alex
@@cyberscrillaSounds easy enough. Do you have any security concerns with either Of the two cold wallets you reviewed in this video? Thank you again.
@jamesgeorge65 The one thing about Tangem is that its firmware is closed sourced (but it has been audited by two cybersecurity companies).
This is a personal preference though. Some people prefer closed source, others open.
The Tangem app is 100% open source though.
Trezor on the other hand is 100% open source.
Both secure wallets in my experience
The only problem with Tangem (and correct me if I am wrong) is that you can't stake any of the cryptos stored on Tangem.
This is coming VERY soon for multiple blockchains
Trezor is the best hardware wallet
Trezor is great! Especially the Safe 3
I have both these and I love them both,
Trezor now has trezor light for the mobile
I use the Shamir back up but can’t remember how many shares are required but I have everything recorded so hopefully ok.
The hidden wallet option is great I hope Tangem helps with this.
I love the simplicity of Tangem. I’m only interested in utility coins so I just want the best wallet for security. I’ve not decided which that is but I have crypto in both.
Another wallet I have is safepal s1 not sure if you have reviewed this one?
Tangem does have the hidden wallet option that allows you to create and import a passphrase.
I haven’t reviewed the S1, only the X1 👍
@@cyberscrilla thanks for this I will check out the new video. The safepal s1 is very similar just airgap and updated button arrangement from what I can see but it was still a great buy. I’m tempted to go for a keystone next time if it’s the best for security
The chance to have malware on your phone is pretty realistic and too high, wouldn't you say?
This might be also true to your computer tho there could be more options for security software
Mm I’m not sure. I’ve owned mobile phone phones for 20 years. I’ve never had malware on one. Have you?
@@cyberscrilla frankly I don't know
I read tangem reviews on the google app store and people seem to have issues
I wonder which way to go. Might start with Trezor and once I feel i need mobile support might jump into Tangem
You don’t know if you’ve had malware on your phone?
And not sure what you mean?
Tangem is highly rated on both Google Play and App Store.
There are always going to be negative reviews, but the positive reviews outweigh the negative reviews by far.
It’s not perfect by any means, nothing in crypto is, but ime Tangem has been great
Hello sir please reply ❤❤❤❤
I will keep my entire portfolio in Trezor one till 2025 without internal updates. Can my wallet get compromised???
So you’re saying you won’t update your wallet?
To answer your question: No, it wouldn’t be compromised just because you don’t update it.
But updates are crucial for usability. I’d update it as often as possible.
But if you’re just going to stash it away for a couple years, it will remain safe.
Please help me witch is best for everything and Security really on those two and what is better to use 20 seed phrase or 24
Idk what “best for everything” means.
There’s several factors to consider:
• Coin support. Which one supports the tokens you want to hold and manage?
• Skill level. Tangem is the most user-friendly wallet on the market. If you’re not tech savvy, this might be a good option. Otherwise, Trezor is also fairly user friendly.
• Compatibility. Do you prefer desktop or mobile? Trezor is mainly used as a desktop device while Tangem is a mobile only wallet.
• Security. Both wallets are secure. And while Trezor offers more security features, that doesn’t mean you’ll use them. Tangem has less features but is still secure and has never been hacked.
• 20 vs 24 word. This depends-for 20 word are you referring to the SLIP39 backup method offered on Trezor? If so, it’s a good option because you can upgrade to multi share, later, if you want to.
Otherwise, 24 words is plenty secure.
What I'm wondering is who has more coins and cheaper fees to like swap?
Would it matter if u just went and did all your swaps in a hot wallet and then transfer those coins to your cold wallet?
I’d say Tangem supports more coins at the moment. And fees aren’t necessarily based on the wallet, but rather the third party used to process the swap. I’d recommend using a decentralized exchange for swaps.
5:16 Imagine a normal credit card not being able to withstand some dust xD
😂 for real
Can you give me your suggestion, I received my tangem but I haven't configured it yet, I decided to opt for the seed phrase, but I don't feel very confident in a combination of just 12 words, I've been using 24 plus one passphrase in the last years. I could be being paranoid, but creating 24 and importing to tangem would be an option? In relation to the passphrase, how does it work during tangem recovery? One more question, can you tell me if the seed phrase created automatically in tangem is 12 words too?
The odds of guessing a 12 word phrase are 1 in a decillion (1 with 33 zeros after it) basically impossible.
The odds of getting striked by lightning every day of your life, multiple times per day, is greater than someone guessing your 12 word phrase.
If you want to import 24 words created on another wallet do that. Tangem only generates 12 which is more than enough.
- Alex
Can I use Tangem on desktop pluging my smartphone?
Tangem is only compatible with mobile devices that have an NFC antenna (Android or iOS only)
Do you know if you can use a Chromebook to access the Trezor using their web suite?
It’s not officially supported. But you should be able to use it. Try using the Trezor Suite for Web in Google Chrome. You can do this before even buying the wallet.
If I were running a validator node could I use one of these cold wallets? Or does it have to be online (Metamask) all the time?
You can use Trezor, I’m not sure about Tangem. Here’s an article from Trezor discussing connecting your wallet to your own node:
blog.trezor.io/connecting-your-wallet-to-a-full-node-edf56693b545
- Alex
A wallet that dosent need updates is a big huge advantage
It’s definitely nice.
Does tangem allow shamir backups? so i can use 3 out of 5 seeds or whatever i want to recover. Also is there any way to use tangem on desktop?
No and No.
@@cyberscrilla But if i use wallet connect that would allow me to do transactions on desktop? I just find it easier than doing everything in a small phone screen
Sure, you can connect to a platform on your desktop via walletconnect such as a DEX or NFt marketplace, but you still have to approve the transaction via the Tangem app on mobile
@@cyberscrilla well if it's just pressing a button in the phone but all the rest is done on desktop i think it is still useful. the phone would just act like a 2fa in that case i guess
@videofrat3115 👍
The bit about not having to worry about anything failing is definitely incorrect. 1) Manufacturing isn't perfect. Products can be shipped DOA. 2) There are for sure people that have cards which failed. I'm not sure how you haven't received any comments to that effect (or chose to ignore them?).
It’s few and far between. Obviously mistakes happen, nothing is perfect. But the majority of cards manufactured are good. I’ve received maybe one comment about a faulty card. Which doesn’t even let you set it up if that’s the case.
I stand by what I said. Tangem is SOLID. Very durable
Great Info. Do tangem support hbar, algo, jasmine, Cardono, terra luna classic?
Cardano yes. The others I don’t think so. You can check all the coins they support on their site. Just scroll down until you see the coins section:
tangem.com/en/
@@cyberscrilla thanks
@@hedrax_soldierofchristfire9971 They just announced on Twitter a few hours ago that they'll be supporting Hbar and Algo soon.
Excellent video and channel, thank you.
Thank you for watching! - Alex
Huh... wait.. tangem does not let you import 24 keyphrase... at least that was my latest info. Only up untill 12 words, or did they somehow change it in the last 2 weeks?
It only generates a 12 word seed phrase but “You can import a seed phrase consisting of 12, 15, 18, 21, or 24 words.”
Which one is best trezor or tangem plase tell me personally bro
That’s hard to answer as “best” is subjective.
Tangem = more convenient, more durable, mobile-only, app is open source but firmware is closed
Trezor = less convenient (still easy to use), desktop only, 100% open source
So, depends what you’re after
Hi bro, after following your content, I ordered both lol (of course with your code). Thanks for keeping reply me.
Wow thank you! I’m confident you’ll enjoy them both! Thanks for your support
-Alex
Thank you, you deserved it bro!! from your Thai subscriber @@cyberscrilla
I want to know if the Tangem keys are generated on software on the smartphone before sharing with the cards or on the are generated on the card.
Thanks
The seed phrase is generated from 12 words in the phone, then seedphease converted into a private key which is thereafter imported into the chip of the card, and finally, the seed phrase is deleted from the phone. This process can be verified in GitHub, because the app is open source.
Can we generate the seed phrase offline?
Can you use trezor safe 3 with sparrow wallet?
I believe so, yes. Also you can download a Bitcoin only firmware for the Safe 3 :)
I've downloaded the bitcoin only firmware onto the safe 3, but it doesn't work on sparrow wallet as yet. Hopefully there will be an update soon.
What do you think about Ngrave and/or Arculus?
Ngrave = over priced and overrated
Arculus = just use Tangem
Thanks for the comprehensive dive and recommendations!
@@Rob-bq6ek you’re welcome:)
After watching quite a few of your videos, I am convinced to get the Tangem wallet. But I have a one concern, which is, is it safe to approved transactions based on the address you see on the app but not being able to verify it on the hardware wallet itself?
As long as you download the official Tangem app, yes it’s safe.
Can you review secux shield bio? I wonder your comments
Im not a huge fan of SecuX. But I’ll try to get my hands on the shield bio to review for you
Wait doesn’t tangem have a seed phrase too now
Yes it does
Pluged Ledger type-c into Trezor😂
Yep cause it’s usb to usbc 😆 Trezor isnt
downloading a software to computer is such a bad idea for hardware wallet.
How?
@@cyberscrilla one more place where you can fall victim to hacks.
Why do these people say “supports over 7,000 coins…” so stupid, the only information that’s relevant is how many blockchains it supports.
True. Just a marketing thing I suppose
Im so sketched put by the Tangem. I received it in the mail with broken secuirty tabs on the box.
Nobody talks about this.
Every youtuber says "tangem tangem tangem." Show me the thousands of dollars in crytpo u have on it and il think about it.
I’ve talked about this numerous times and Tangem has already covered the issue.
The broken seals although scary don’t mean anything for security.
The app verifies your wallet and firmware is authentic when you set it up.
And I have a large portfolio stored on my Tangem wallet.
Had the same issue… it’s terrible when you think about it…
@@Lelerium how so? The app verifies authenticity of the cards/firmware when you setup the wallet.
How will malware on phone be able to withdraw funds as you need Tangem physical cards to transfer crypto?
If malware got a hold of your seed phrase, your wallet can be accessed from any wallet.
@cyberscrilla the seed phrase is on the cards so how would it get hold of it?
The seed phrase is briefly displayed on the app when you create a new wallet (so you can write it down) so if malware has eyes on your phone at that brief moment of time, it could get it.
It’s not likely, but not impossible
You should really hold your referral codes on the screen a little bit longer. It goes so quick you could barely even read it.
All my discount codes are in the description of each video.
Except for Trezor because they wouldn’t let me put it. Doesn’t matter as Trezor has canceled ALL discount codes.
So how much is Tangem paying you?
I get paid $10 if someone buys a wallet using my link. Welcome to TH-cam 😆
The reason there is a discount is because that is common place for affiliates. You click the link > buy > that earns a commission. You might be thinking of paid sponsorship. But, a lot of people that have paid sponsorships also have affiliate links on top of that anyway. Using affiliate links is a good idea as you usually get something for it to help incentivize the prospective buyer to click through and buy. For instance, I used somebody's affiliate referral code to buy the Keystone Pro and the Keystone 3 Pro this year as well as two cyphers. I got 30% off each order.
@@Coinopoly exactly. Affiliates are one way TH-camrs make a living. Nothing wrong with it and it usually benefits the buyer more
@@cyberscrilla do you do any videos of products you have no affiliate links for?
Trezor passcode no longer works
What do you mean?
What I meant to say is the code to get 8% no longer works for the Trezor
The discount code you gave for the Trezor does not work.@@cyberscrilla
@@brucekempf4648 Trezor has eliminated ALL discount codes. Please reach out to them and tell them you’d like to see discount codes come back.
The more people speak up, the more likely they are to bring it back
Why not both? 💯
Sure! If you want both 😆
I have both obviously
@cyberscrilla It's definitely ideal to have multiple hardware wallets. I already have some Tangem cards. Planning on getting the Trezor soon. I'll be sure to use your promo code. ✌️
Agreed. At this point I have over 20… maybe a bit overkill lol.
And I appreciate it 🤝 I actually REALLY like the Safe 3