Honestly I was a metalhead that HATED deathcore at its peak of popularity. But now that I'm older, more mature, and more open, I've been going back and listening to some of the old deathcore and MAN is it good. Especially Suicide Silence and that first Job for a Cowboy release
i did the same because i've been with it since it first started, after awhile everything started sounding the same so i went to other genres, just few months ago i was listening to bring me the horizon's "Sempiternal" (stopped listening to them after "There Is a Hell Believe Me I've Seen It") mostly due to Death Strandings song BMTH did "Ludens" but holy shit is Sempiternal good the production is A1
Which ended up to seeing the genre's death metal elements and hardcore elements completely disappearing and the rise of these super ridiculously pulished and fake over produced modern deathcore that we got now.
@@ThatShitGood how does better production quality equal less heavy? And trust me there's still plenty of blast beats to go around. Just because whitechapel and suicide silence got softer doesn't mean the whole genre did.
Dude if jesus had a methed out lil bro without magical powers 😂😂😂 I loved all the cuts back to that kid... And honestly he wasn't wrong most of the time!
It would be awesome if you made Spotify playlists to supplement your videos. You mention so many bands each episode and I think it’d be a huge help to listeners
I'm a 40 year old that wore cargo shorts and a NILE shirt to a Rings of Saturn show. I love deathcore too and never saw why there had to be a divide. The neon monster shirts were great... I wish I had some myself. I like/love a lot of the bands you mentioned and have a lot of favorite albums from the deathcore genre even though I was already an adult when those genres became popular. The older generation hated on death metal when it came around, so you would think those fans would remember it and not hate the next thing that comes along. Thanks for the video!
Think it’s just a case of “there’s always that guy” because people around my age would always bash me for my music then give it a year or two and everybody is gobbling it all up.
Nebular Void hell yeah. I saw them at a small venue in San Francisco, the dog pound, and they were walking around after their set and listening to the other bands. Real cool dudes.
I fucking died laughing the first time I heard that in the song and then they made it the next riff. Great stuff. But yeah fuck man, one of my all time favorite bands. Guess I'll check out False Idols today since I never have before. I was a bit underwhelmed with Matriarch so I sort of fell out of love with them but I remember getting [id] when it came out and that was a banger. Common man's collapse is still my favorite though.
@@Knotunit Overthrow and Doublespeak are really good. However, unfortunately, most of the album is a bit forgettable. I'll have to give it a few more listens. It took a while for Matriarch to grow on me. The new single Members Only is pretty good. The singing, I feel, has changed some of the core composition. It's a bit more tame and sterile compared to when Butler was in the band. It feels like the guitar, the main reason I loved the band, has been gutted for the clean parts and I'm not a huge fan of that.
Before deathcore, no one really talked about harsh vocalists as super impressive. Yeah people thought the likes of Chris Barnes were cool, but fans remember Cannibal songs for the riffs, not the vocals. The growls were added effect. Mitch, Phil Bozeman, Brook Reeves and the like introduced a way of growling that got kids legitimately impressed by their ability to contort their voices. It wasn’t just to further the brutality. Fast forward to now, and you have bands like Traitors and Slaughter to Prevail who got over largely because people were impressed by Tyler and Alex. Basically, deathcore made guttural vocals an art form.
Phil Bozeman's work in Whitechapel is insane as-is. But if you haven't, check out his vocal performance of Suicide Silence's song Unanswered from their memorial show. Those gutterals shook the foundation. Art from indeed.
keyblade zero he was also one of the first growlers to use a rap cadence. He’d actually flow over the riffs, which worked well with the increased groove deathcore brought to the table.
Nah everytime cookie monster vocals come on, it's always asked "is that Cannibal Corpse?" Or "dude they sound just like Cannibal Corpse!" Especially Corpsegrider coming in... they are pretty much gateway death metal.
i don't think that noone cared before deathcore about vocals or that there were only bland vocalists, it's just that deathcore with it's hardcore roots really brought personalities to the front
I was one of those metal dudes that hated deathcore and metalcore during it's peak when i was in high school, but I eventually grew out of that mentality of "if it has core in it, it's not metal" and I love them both now. But it kills me that i wasn't able to enjoy it when it was big, especially the times when some of my favorite albums from that era had just been released and i could've experienced them when they were still new and fresh. But on the brightside, when i started to accept it, i had a massive catalogue to listen to, and i'm still going through it today
Metal core and death core we're ok to me. I hated disturbed slipknot and stuff like that. Now that it's 20 years old it's cool now except for disturbed and deathpunch
i was in middle school during the tail end of the metalcore days and the early deathcore days. i remember being in the comment section of a kill switch engage music video debating with a death metal purist trying to convince him that metalcore is indeed metal lmao
I mean these things aren't exactly "dead". Everything peaks, and inevitably falls off. Even if these genres are getting 1000 views these genres aren't dead. People are still making and listening to wierd and obscure genres from 50 years ago. Metal that is underground is better, way more room for experimentation, and less studio/label interference.
@@AnimosityIncarnate Deathcore is pretty fucking dead tho lmao. Obviously some bands like Shrine Of Malice, Shadow Of Intent, and Brand Of Sacrifice are getting some success, but not nearly to the extent of older bands. And other than those, all the slam worldwide "downtempo beatdown" bands never get anywhere
Im not sure the emo rap stuff has died yet as its getting bigger and bigger. I was shocked to hear that. Id say Post Malone is one of the fathers of the genre.
@@Jason-ik2ok I like Tom era Lorna and sort of CJ but I just cant respect him (for reasons you probably know) I dont like the new SOTS and never really liked them anyway (Well, other than some CJ era SOTS but... yknow)
I’m a little late to this party but I think deathcore is making a big comeback thanks to Lorna Shore with their release of A.I.R.T.N. Will Ramos is shaping up to be that new personality in deathcore and Into The Hellfire was one of the most talked about and reacted to tracks of the year. I love to see it.
"The sprit is alive and well, there’s still kids in their bedrooms making the most absurd, over the top, aggressive shit the possibly can and pissing everybody off in the process." This is really what the genre was about man.
@@aperfecttool257 it really is the full combination of things. girls think he's hot, dude put on a show, music was good for the energy. all around win for everyone
I use to think that was bs until Mitch passed, and then saw for myself just how much fan girls can actually perpetuate an artists popularity/notoriety.
@@ThePunkRockMBA I think once he climbs that hill of telling his parents, he'll be ok By the way, I loved this video. I wasn't very involved in the Deathcore scene growing up so this was really fun to learn about.
To The Grave, Infant Annihilator, Shadow of Intent, Angelmaker, A Night In Texas, Shrine of Malice, Forces .... just a few deathcore bands that are killing it.
Opinions are opinions, but to put all that energy into uploading videos and spew hate is a bit sad, when it could instead be used into creating something nice. At the same time I still want them to exist though (I mean, in a vid like this they are adorable) so its most def a double edged sword.
Ian Riise I think what you're saying is correct, but I feel like TTEOTD is a fringe case. They had the breakdowns of deathcore, but much of their songwriting was rooted in death metal and melodeath. The emphasis on breakdowns pretty much disappeared by Malice and since then, I wouldn't consider them deathcore at all. EDIT: Well, I guess a lot of deathcore 1.0 bands had similar songwriting as TTEOTD. I think I'm biased, and comparing today's deathcore (which has MUCH more emphasis on breakdowns) to early deathcore, where the emphasis was less, and there was a lot more death metal and melodeath styling.
@@richardsinclair7661 You're right. I remember when Malice came out I loved it but a lot of my friends were disappointed because it strayed away from Deathcore. Still though, I'm surprised that TTEOTD never seems to be mentioned in videos or articles about the history of deathcore. The Bloodlust album and the song Two Inches From a Main Artery in particular were a big deal when they came out.
I was never a deathcore fan but I do own cd's by: All shall perish, as blood runs black and the black dahlia murder. so I guess I am ! also any subgenre that goes for an At The Gates Sound I think is going to win me over lol
@Jackass Of Rivia i remember discovering all shall perish for the first time, i felt so cool doing math homework and it was easy to concentrate because i couldn't understand the lyrics
Yes I do. They must've made it pink and glittery gold just to piss assholes like me off lol. As a huge metalhead who loved brutal death metal like suffocation (who used to always say things on stage like "stay brutal!", unironically), I was always triggered af back then seeing tiny scene kids listening to whiny emo music wear that. Especially if they said it was because they liked "br00tal metal" then mentioned bands where the vocals sounded more like injured crying than metal screams. It was kids like that I blame for everyone immediately saying "eww you like that screamo stuff?" whenever I said I was a metal fan.
I'd love to see an Episode on "Mathcore" or how people want to call it. I mean Bands like Dillinger, Botch, Danza, Converge and all the new and young bands filling the void.
Alex Terrible is the new Deathcore celeb. He does a great job with self marketing of himeslf, his band, and his genre. I wouldn't be surprised if we see a huge spike in the genre just because of him.
True. He did some deathcore vocal covers of some famous songs, and it attracted a lot of people to his own band. It’s called the “Russian hate project” by the way.
Your comment was a year ago, and I think this year has proven you correct, given the success of Slaughter’s new album and Lorna Shore’s explosion in popularity this year.
Dude my high school years were 06-10 and this was basically just a nostalgia trip all the way through, and shoutouts to you for the OG Suffokate clips, the pre-Ricky era of that band has basically been completely forgotten.
Their second record is pretty much the blueprint for half the stoner doom bands out there and yet most people focus on their first LP. Kinda frustrating.
Not surprised Make Them Suffer wasn’t mentioned in the video, but kind of disappointed I haven’t seen them in the comments. Their fan base has always felt like a bit of a cult following, but I think their 2012 Neverbloom is one of the best deathcore albums ever recorded
@@aristotleasparaguspodcast1129 Some scene kids were definitely depressed even if they didn't look like it. You can't tell whether someone has depression based on how they look or necessarily even how they behave, anyway, and depression isn't the only reason why somebody would commit suicide. While I was never a scene kid myself (because I was too fat and ugly and it was decidedly not metal to be a scene kid, and I wanted to be a metalhead even though the breakdowns and autotune and unicorns and rainbows were already bubbling under the surface), I did interact with my fair share of scene kids back in the day and many of them were pretty open about having mental health problems (some to the point of fetishising mental illness, in which cases it can be dubious whether or not they actually had any, but it wasn't the "everyone and their dog has PTSD" levels reached a couple of years later, and for many it was obviously just self-aware exaggeration and a humorous coping mechanism). Reasons to commit suicide that don't necessarily involve depression (but are likely to) include an inescapable life situation, such as being bullied at school or molested by an older relative, both of which, for obvious reasons, many scene kids had to deal with; that's not victim blaming, by the way, I just mean they were hot and older relatives of teens are known for their inability to control their sexual impulses to begin with, and "normal kids" hated them and as such bullying ensued. It's fucked up, yes, but that was reality for at least some scene kids. Maybe a very low percentage of all scene kids committed suicide, I don't think statistics exist, but if we are to accept that scene kids had a higher than average rate of depression and/or other mental illness, then they didn't magically stop being depressed and/or otherwise mentally ill the second they stopped being scene kids, and would probably still be more likely to commit suicide than the average person even after they stopped being scene kids. If someone who was a scene kid commits suicide after they're no longer a scene kid, they'd still be a scene kid who committed suicide. Now, obviously I'm just speculating here and basing most of it on anecdotes and going way too in detail to explain a stupid joke, but the point is that a lot of scene kids were in fact depressed. As for how many "a lot" is in terms of percentage, I have no idea, but of the ones I interacted with back in the day, I'd say about half were clearly depressed. That's probably not applicable to all scene kids, but I'd still bet that there was a higher incidence of depression among scene kids than the entire populace. Anyway, now that that's all out of the way, can we agree that scene girls were hot and that we'd all pop mad boners if there was a proper resurgence of scene fashion? And that we'd also enjoy a new wave of scenecore bands? Please don't let me be the only one... I don't want to have nostalgia boners and nostalgia eargasms all by myself!
@@faptotixfap I wouldn't say that they have sold out, but I don't think that they will ever be the same band due to the line up change. Holy war and hate will never be beaten.
Dubstep was literally the spiritual successor the deathcore, heavy dubstep is where all the core kids went. So many guitarists and vocalists I knew became dj’s
Lorna shores "Immortal" is one of the best albums I've heard for a while, deathcore or not. Same with Whitechapels newest album. I think you just have to comb through the oversaturated scene to find the gems
Personally I love both The Valley and Immortal, but from a different point of view. They both show that the two aforementioned bands are moving towards different genres. Whitechapel now tends more toward the melodeath/prog/ kinda Lamb Of God and BTBAM style of metalcore, only with much less breakdowns and more death metal riffs, while Lorna Shore (especially after CJ McCreery's departure) are slowly revealing themselves as a blackened death metal band disguised as a deathcore band, which is their true identity. It only takes two listens at tracks such as Obsession, Death Portrait or Relentless Torment to see it. While the first two tracks could fit perfectly on a Belphegor record, the latter is basically a 6/4 version of Behemoth's "O Father O Satan O Sun". Sure, they're standout records, but imho they don't fit the definition of "deathcore" at all, not even if you listen to their breakdowns, which are either slammy or more proggy and Meshuggah-ish.
Shadow Of Intent, Infant Annihilator, Fit For An Autopsy, Lorna Shore, Traitors, Shrine Of Malice, To The Grave, Hunt The Dinosaur, Signs Of The Swarm, Sold Soul, Drown In Sulphur, Slaughter To Prevail, and so many more bands are going hard to this day. The scene is evolving insanely
no matter what anyone says the scene is still booming and alive in the underground its not going anywhere anytime soon trust me your not alone a ton of people love it still.
Hey! I don't know if it's your thing exactly but I'd love to see 'how Skrillex changed the game'. Him applying hardcore energy to bass music really changed the face of dubstep and electronic music in general in the early 10s, and he became the poster boy for 'guy with a laptop playing to a stadium' to me. Hearing Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites for the first time was one of the biggest 'holy shit' moments in music for me and I'm sure I'm not the only one who listened to a bunch of 'top 10 FILTHIEST drops' TH-cam compilations in 2012. He's also proven he can change up his sound in big ways and stay relevant over a long period of time. It seems like he pissed off a lot of people with his 'brostep' sound but he remained super grounded to both the hardcore and underground bass music scenes the whole time. I'd say he's a big part of the reason a lot of people got into heavy bass music when they could have gotten into hardcore/metal. Would love to hear your thoughts!
SECONDED! Could also tie in some of the hybrid-electronic bands that led up to the 2010-2012 scene-kid ⇛ EDM exodus, like Attack Attack! (I know you already covered them, but they fit in to so many parts of history), Abandon All Ships, Enter Shikari, Statix-X, A Skylit Drive (to a minor extent), Breathe Carolina, and especially Cash Cash (who were the only group to just fully migrate between genres seamlessly). Along with those bands, it seems like a disproportionate amount of the biggest Electronic (and especially dubstep) artists came from the metal+hardcore scene, in addition to Skrillex. Borgore and Seven Lions were both metal drummers, Sullivan King is doing some GREAT metal-dubstep hybrid shit right now, Kayzo just put out a collab album with a bunch of artists and played a show in Vegas last year with Of Mice and Men, Bassnectar started in metal, Getter played guitar and drums early on, and the list goes on.
Kris honestly with the way things are going I think dubstep/riddim and also dark trap is now the new metal in a way cause it’s so much more in your face and it’s more relevant to where it’s hard to find a band of people instead of just making the music yourself
Shadow Of Intent, Sold Soul, Shrine Of Malice, Brand Of Sacrifice, Aversions Crown, A Night In Texas, Babirusa, Chelsea Grin .. all are standout bands in this sub genre
@@CheapSushi CheapSushi you gotta jump on dat new new wave. Fuckinn if your interested, I just found this band called to the grave. Check out their song wastage. And listen to the whole thing. If you like heavy music I'm sure it wont disappoint. If you dont like it, well theres always hardcore
Whoa, when you mentioned how mitch lucker was essentially the front man for deathcore and the genre got lost when he died really hit me and everything made sense. Damn 😭💔
I remember back in 2008-2012 there seemed to be a "big" deathcore show every week. Now there are very few metal shows happening around me, kinda sad. I consider myself lucky though being able to see all those great bands in their prime.
Dude straight up true I in my town we had great run and good promoters there was at least 3 great shows a month I was I was lucky enough to see the guys that are still around and made it big in underground shows awesome times!
I'm an old school thrash metal guy who loved Metal Core and Death core. Suicide Silence, Whitechapel, Chelsea Grin, Veil of Maya etc. Love that shit. I feel like they all kind of came together in the end and made a lot of good music variety.
so glad someone realized what made this scene so popular when it waz starting out and that is the shows were just fun. you could feel.the energy in these bands being excited kids were digging them and just happy to be playing music and on tour and it showed through in yhe music and at the shows. that kind of sincerity is infectious...
I was lucky enough to play guitar with Justin Lowe before he passed. On multiple occasions he and I played guitar in my basement and I learned a lot from him. RIP \m/
"Moshing in a kitchen to these ridiculous songs that make no sense..." Holy shit, that brings back some good memories. I was in the band playing in the kitchen
I enjoy modern deathcore, bands like Infant Annihilator, Shadow of Intent, Black Tongue. I do understand what you mean by them being overproduced though. Infant’s first album really suffered due to that, but there next ones were able to fix that in my opinion
Signs of the Swarm is a pretty cool band as well...kickass band from Pittsburgh...personally I love the idea of local modern deathcore talent...interesting stuff
The overproductions better honestly I don’t want to listen to black metal that sounds like it’s mixed like shit. It’s just stupid now days with how easy it is to mix it on daw software
NOTQUITE? The shitty production on black metal is pretty dead now, most bands don’t do it anymore. Listen to Abbath if you want some decent black metal
When will "blackcore" become a thing? Black metal + hardcore. Not something I would listen to, but black metal elitists getting angry about it would be worth it.
It's kind of already a thing, except it's more of a crust punk thing. Just look up subgenre's like "blackened crust", or "blackened hardcore". Or, just listen to Young and in the Way's EP V. Eternal Depression.
Pleadure Needs Pain Raspberry Bulbs, Cara Neir, Cuntroaches, Seeker on the more metalcore end of things, Young and In the Way, the whole "'mysterious guy' hardcore" phenomenon, all of those weird blackened d-beat and crustcore bands with ten-minute cassettes with eight songs apiece...
I love deathcore even to this day. Bands like Slaughter to Prevail, Drown In Sulfer, Infant Annihilator, and Shadow of Intent are really changing the game, I feel. But I do agree, Mitch Lucker was the Bach of Deathcore. When Bach died Baroque died.
demolisher, oceano and monsters radically changed the illinois music scene. it made chicago seem like such a prestigious place to play and be from. the killer and warhound were still keeping the hardcore scene strong. man what a great time for illinois music.
Deathcore is so awesome and always has been since I discovered it in 2008. It has carried me through life ever since and I’m walking on air every day. Thank you to the bands for having such a strong influence on my life!
Lorna Shore and Reflection are almost album of the year for me so far. Suicide Silence's new album is really good and last year was hella nice for Deathcore.
A few things: * My one problem with deathcore is the reliance on breakdown-style riffs. In hardcore, breakdowns build and release tension. When you *start* with (what feels like) the breakdown, there's nowhere to go... * You're definitely on to something when you say it was by-the-kids, for-the-kids, and hated by the metal establishment and press. That's what I want to pay attention to. * I put out that first Undying EP! There was definitely something in the water in North Carolina! Folks should check out the band Sect, it's ex-members of Undying, Prayer for Cleansing, Day of Suffering, Earth Crisis, etc...
I've liked 2 of the 3 pre-release tracks I've heard, so that's better than the last album at least. I wanted to see them in NC but BTBAM's 20th anniversary tour is happening, so yeeeeeeaaaaah.
Nothing killed death-core they killed themselves in an ancient ritualistic suicide pact with a dark demon from the abyss. I'm pretty sure someone did an album about it. Now they roam the Earth forever undead haunting our ears with the sounds from beyond. On a real not As Blood Runs Black is one of the best and Shadow of Intent's latest album is incredibly good.
Going to a deathcore show was what got to drop my "anti-show/anti-mosh/trve-kvlt" mentality lol. I agree that deathcore really went down along with Mitch. I'm only 25 but it's weird to see a video wherre I can actually relate with a bit and say "oh shit, I remember that!", like fuck man, I lived through a scene.
Three reason deathcore got huge: -It got a lot of hate from “true” Metal heads which just made the genre even more famous and made those kids push their skills -It was underground and many bands experimented with different sounds and unique styles. -There were many amazing debut and second albums, such as Count Your Blessings -A lot of popularity on MySpace. Reasons Deathcore got worse, until now: -Unlike Born of Osiris or Rings of Saturn many later bands just kept copying the 2nd wave deathcore bands style. -There wasn’t much hardcore elements in later years being used such as groove and many deathcore bands ended up just becoming your generic death metal band or emo shit. (This is my perspective, but add yours I really never looked into deathcore before so this genre’s history is a little new to me)
I honestly think deathcore is in the best place it's ever been. With Fit For An Autopsy being the absolute kings imo, and having released 3 masterpieces back to back now. Other bands such as Lorna Shore, Aversions Crown and even Whitechapel are also doing fantastic stuff. As far as older deathcore goes I can only think of No Time to Bleed by SS and New Era by Whitechapel as ones I still actively listen to. I do agree on the toxic fanbase. I'm glad I'm more of a djent/prog guy. That scene is far more welcoming.
I feel like a lot of what killed Deathcore is that the bands themselves "aged out" in a sense. They're sounds evolved and matured past what it used to be, in some cases forming new sub-genres entirely (i.e. Acacia Strain being "doomcore"). Also, while the new Whitechapel album could be called Deathcore, it sounds like absolutely nothing else that I've heard. It ranges from heavy and downright horrific, to some of the most beautiful guitar passages I've heard, especially from the genre.
Sounds like you'd call that progdeathcore? 😅 Idk, sounds interesting though. Even though I like Opeth's melodic stuff like Damnation (one of the most beautiful albums I've ever listened to) I really wish they'd go back to death metal. I might check out this Whitechapel album if I get bored later, sounds like it's up my alley.
I would love to see you make a video on how progressive music became a part of extreme music slowly. With bands like Dream Theater, Metallica (And Justice For All Era), Cynic, Atheist, BTBAM and The Contortionist. Love your videos btw we’ve been needed a channel like yours in heavy music for a long time.
@@pleadureneedspain5649 Djent as a genre is a subgenre of prog metal, saying Djent isn't prog metal is like saying melodic death metal isn't death metal.
I appreciate your honesty with everything, most people in the metal & punk scenes would never admit they like peep and emo rap, I dig how you don’t hate on things even the stuff you don’t like
Damn earned a sub this dude definitely knows his stuff he got everything 1000% right I’m more 2.0-3.0 era but I remember being the first in my group of friends to like heavy music and they would laugh and not believe me then they all got hooked on it and then by the time the black crown came out I remember getting laughed at because my favorite song on the album was the one that had the feature funny stuff now they all love stuff like that.
Dead to fall, apathemy, Rune, and UO’s act of depression are all early renditions of deathcore with albums coming out from 98-2001. Seems like this was a pivotal part in straying from the classic metal, hardcore punk, and emo as you also get things like Skramz in this era
I think deathcore evolved more into what is now known as the hardcore scene, with bands like Code Orange, Loathe, Vein, etc. I haven’t heard any hype from trap metal lately.
Totally thinking it. Maybe the community rejects the super-specific terms of metalcore, deathcore, grindcore, etc... Feels like the concept of subgenres kinda collapsed and the hardcore scene reunited. Maybe Bane has something to do with that.
It’s crazy how popular deathcore once was. “You only live once” by suicide silence has over 87 million views here on TH-cam. Absolutely mind blowing
Same 870 kids a million times
Messed up my math
Joseph Rivera LOVE the old SS but that song sucked and they started going way too mainstream like slipknot
Don’t quite quote me on this, but I believe it was sitting around 10-12 mil when Mitch died. That definitely elevated their numbers.
@@castlecarousel RIP. But rather sad
That Metallica dude realized how much he loves deathcore mid scream and just went in
hahahahahahaha
kid knows how to scream though
That was a terrible growl but I felt the passion
His TH-cam channel is named Muck Fetalcore
@@AG-sk5pv This was the only comment I wanted to see
I miss scene girls, and courting them via "here come listen to this pigsqueal off my ipod color".
萧圣雨 Bree. O w O
萧圣雨 Bruh. Miss those days 😂
Scene girls were such drama queens back then lol
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"Check out this br00t4l breakdown, it'll make u rawr baby"
That kid you kept showing that apparently hates "deathcore" secretly loves it judging by his "bree"
lol didn't expect to find a wild Daledo here
He was wayyyyy into it
Who is he? I need to see the whole vid
That kid looked drunk as shit.
wtf dale ily
Honestly I was a metalhead that HATED deathcore at its peak of popularity. But now that I'm older, more mature, and more open, I've been going back and listening to some of the old deathcore and MAN is it good. Especially Suicide Silence and that first Job for a Cowboy release
i did the same because i've been with it since it first started, after awhile everything started sounding the same so i went to other genres, just few months ago i was listening to bring me the horizon's "Sempiternal" (stopped listening to them after "There Is a Hell Believe Me I've Seen It") mostly due to Death Strandings song BMTH did "Ludens" but holy shit is Sempiternal good the production is A1
Dylan McMahon fuckin same dude lol as a use to be hater i now wanna smack the shit out of the younger me
Listen to Job for a Cowboys latest release Sun Eater, definitely not deathcore but still probably their best release besides Doom.
Suicide Silence is insanely underrated.
Genesis is a great album, but check out Sun Eater. Job for a Cowboy got really good even as their popularity waned.
Deathcore didn't die. Those scene kids got older started doing "Djent" instead.
Which ended up to seeing the genre's death metal elements and hardcore elements completely disappearing and the rise of these super ridiculously pulished and fake over produced modern deathcore that we got now.
@@ThatShitGood and more circle-jerk showboating prog type stuff
You're right, and the deathcore that's still deathcore coming out these days just got kind of heavier.
@@alec7568 deathcore bands these days barely even play blastbeat and their production is overpulished, how did it got heavy?
@@ThatShitGood how does better production quality equal less heavy? And trust me there's still plenty of blast beats to go around. Just because whitechapel and suicide silence got softer doesn't mean the whole genre did.
That kid looks like Slim Jesus.
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I thought it was Slim Jesus lmao
Dude if jesus had a methed out lil bro without magical powers 😂😂😂 I loved all the cuts back to that kid... And honestly he wasn't wrong most of the time!
I thought it was ..
Everyones got an opinion...
That guy constantly ranting throughout the vid is just making me want to hear more deathcore.
He makes it sound sick to me.
Jaguar Molina that guy cracked me up
that's because it is sick, friend. do you have a moment to talk about our lord and savior, Mitch Lucker and the boys from Suicide Silence?
That kid's head probably exploded when he learned people like Emmure now lol
“All the Bree breee breeeee” ...Hell yeah
Ryan Nachtrab won’t you be my bride ?!
It would be awesome if you made Spotify playlists to supplement your videos.
You mention so many bands each episode and I think it’d be a huge help to listeners
I wish there were Apple Music playlists as well.
I'm a 40 year old that wore cargo shorts and a NILE shirt to a Rings of Saturn show. I love deathcore too and never saw why there had to be a divide. The neon monster shirts were great... I wish I had some myself. I like/love a lot of the bands you mentioned and have a lot of favorite albums from the deathcore genre even though I was already an adult when those genres became popular. The older generation hated on death metal when it came around, so you would think those fans would remember it and not hate the next thing that comes along. Thanks for the video!
Michael Stewart theyre pretty much the exact same thing musically they just came at different time and from slightly different communities
So true. Learn from the past
Totally agree and I'm 40 too
42 here, and I 100% agree.
Think it’s just a case of “there’s always that guy” because people around my age would always bash me for my music then give it a year or two and everybody is gobbling it all up.
“Some 34 year old in a Nile shirt who take himself too seriously.” Literally coming at me personally....
This made me laugh way to much ngl, Being someone who was very young during the age of Deathcore and I loved it
Is this like a personal attack or something? Lol
BeMindfulAndWise They’re fucking insane live
Lol dude same here.
Nebular Void hell yeah. I saw them at a small venue in San Francisco, the dog pound, and they were walking around after their set and listening to the other bands. Real cool dudes.
Finn: "What killed deathcore?"
Everyone: "That dude in the thumbnail did. It was definitely him."
"Deathcore is a ripoff of Death Metal with breakdowns and simplistic riffs"
Literally any Prog Fan: *Bruh Sound #2*
Jajajaja
shenron7 you listen to sentinels? if not, check them out
I miss the days when Deathcore bands used to sample movie quotes 🤔
KillWhitneyDead was the best at that!
Especially slamcore
Angelmaker
KillWhitneyDead
I Declare War - As They Burn Alive is one of the coolest movie quote inserts.
At first: Deathcore is dead?
Finishes Video: Ok fair point
Lol, thank you!
“All they have is just ‘bow-nuh, bow-duh-da-dow, we-dunna-weow-nee-nuh’”
I fucking died laughing the first time I heard that in the song and then they made it the next riff. Great stuff. But yeah fuck man, one of my all time favorite bands. Guess I'll check out False Idols today since I never have before. I was a bit underwhelmed with Matriarch so I sort of fell out of love with them but I remember getting [id] when it came out and that was a banger. Common man's collapse is still my favorite though.
Veil of maya?! 🤗😁
Lmao this is still my ringtone
@@pequals34 def check out False Idols
@@Knotunit Overthrow and Doublespeak are really good. However, unfortunately, most of the album is a bit forgettable. I'll have to give it a few more listens. It took a while for Matriarch to grow on me. The new single Members Only is pretty good. The singing, I feel, has changed some of the core composition. It's a bit more tame and sterile compared to when Butler was in the band. It feels like the guitar, the main reason I loved the band, has been gutted for the clean parts and I'm not a huge fan of that.
Before deathcore, no one really talked about harsh vocalists as super impressive. Yeah people thought the likes of Chris Barnes were cool, but fans remember Cannibal songs for the riffs, not the vocals. The growls were added effect.
Mitch, Phil Bozeman, Brook Reeves and the like introduced a way of growling that got kids legitimately impressed by their ability to contort their voices. It wasn’t just to further the brutality.
Fast forward to now, and you have bands like Traitors and Slaughter to Prevail who got over largely because people were impressed by Tyler and Alex.
Basically, deathcore made guttural vocals an art form.
Phil Bozeman's work in Whitechapel is insane as-is. But if you haven't, check out his vocal performance of Suicide Silence's song Unanswered from their memorial show. Those gutterals shook the foundation. Art from indeed.
I guess the 90's never happened...
keyblade zero he was also one of the first growlers to use a rap cadence. He’d actually flow over the riffs, which worked well with the increased groove deathcore brought to the table.
Nah everytime cookie monster vocals come on, it's always asked "is that Cannibal Corpse?" Or "dude they sound just like Cannibal Corpse!" Especially Corpsegrider coming in... they are pretty much gateway death metal.
i don't think that noone cared before deathcore about vocals or that there were only bland vocalists, it's just that deathcore with it's hardcore roots really brought personalities to the front
MBA: "Deathcore is dead"
Slaughter to Prevail: "Hold my vodka"
Alex Terrible: " Hold my Addidas track pants"
Gopnik deatcore
Demolisher fucking slays
Slaughter to Prevail is overrated. Great vocals, everything else is generic.
@@TibzzTube hum no, yes, but no.
I was one of those metal dudes that hated deathcore and metalcore during it's peak when i was in high school, but I eventually grew out of that mentality of "if it has core in it, it's not metal" and I love them both now. But it kills me that i wasn't able to enjoy it when it was big, especially the times when some of my favorite albums from that era had just been released and i could've experienced them when they were still new and fresh. But on the brightside, when i started to accept it, i had a massive catalogue to listen to, and i'm still going through it today
Same
Nailed the explaination for me too. Exactly the same here!
Oh... rest in peace.
Metal core and death core we're ok to me. I hated disturbed slipknot and stuff like that. Now that it's 20 years old it's cool now except for disturbed and deathpunch
i was in middle school during the tail end of the metalcore days and the early deathcore days. i remember being in the comment section of a kill switch engage music video debating with a death metal purist trying to convince him that metalcore is indeed metal lmao
"Deathcore died with Mitch Lucker just like emo rap with Peep"
Man didn't need to cry rn
That. Hurt.
I mean these things aren't exactly "dead". Everything peaks, and inevitably falls off. Even if these genres are getting 1000 views these genres aren't dead. People are still making and listening to wierd and obscure genres from 50 years ago. Metal that is underground is better, way more room for experimentation, and less studio/label interference.
@@AnimosityIncarnate Deathcore is pretty fucking dead tho lmao. Obviously some bands like Shrine Of Malice, Shadow Of Intent, and Brand Of Sacrifice are getting some success, but not nearly to the extent of older bands. And other than those, all the slam worldwide "downtempo beatdown" bands never get anywhere
Im not sure the emo rap stuff has died yet as its getting bigger and bigger. I was shocked to hear that. Id say Post Malone is one of the fathers of the genre.
@@Jason-ik2ok I like Tom era Lorna and sort of CJ but I just cant respect him (for reasons you probably know)
I dont like the new SOTS and never really liked them anyway (Well, other than some CJ era SOTS but... yknow)
I’m a little late to this party but I think deathcore is making a big comeback thanks to Lorna Shore with their release of A.I.R.T.N. Will Ramos is shaping up to be that new personality in deathcore and Into The Hellfire was one of the most talked about and reacted to tracks of the year. I love to see it.
It's not.
Deathcore is garbage.
Get over it.
"The sprit is alive and well, there’s still kids in their bedrooms making the most absurd, over the top, aggressive shit the possibly can and pissing everybody off in the process." This is really what the genre was about man.
I can see why the frontman from suicide silence brought girls to the genre.
Nice hair, Inked up, and non threatening looking. That’s the trifecta 😉
Absolutely
He was also just a nice human being. Mitch was also just an incredible showman.
@@aperfecttool257 it really is the full combination of things. girls think he's hot, dude put on a show, music was good for the energy. all around win for everyone
I use to think that was bs until Mitch passed, and then saw for myself just how much fan girls can actually perpetuate an artists popularity/notoriety.
The Punk Rock MBA Dude was an absolute stud. It’s a shame he’s not with us anymore.
Oh, Mitch, you don't know how much we miss you...
- The Deathcore Community
Pole: 1
Mitch: 0
Don't abandon your family to drive drunk.
@@KingNexusMOCs At least someone gets it.
@@joshuaprick2596 well he only lived once
The dude going on a rant literally sounds like he literally loves Deathcore more than any other genre and is too embarrassed to say so.
In the deathcore closet
@@ThePunkRockMBA I think once he climbs that hill of telling his parents, he'll be ok
By the way, I loved this video. I wasn't very involved in the Deathcore scene growing up so this was really fun to learn about.
deathcorephobia
Lol specially how he calls out the name iwrestledabearonce that was not a very popular band at all
@@hailsantadad I thought the same thing. Dude knew way too much about it to hate it.
You mentioned "So and So", I've never heard of them can't find any info on them they must be super underground.
To The Grave, Infant Annihilator, Shadow of Intent, Angelmaker, A Night In Texas, Shrine of Malice, Forces .... just a few deathcore bands that are killing it.
Slaughter to Prevail
Damn forces is done
To The Grave is fkin sickk
@@zokia.d.3748 *laughs in slaughter to prevail and fit for an autopsy with some despised icon and to the grave on top of it*
@@zokia.d.3748 classic
Those angry elitist nerds you edit in every now and then are the best!
And usually correct.
Stewart Dowouis ur a grown man
Opinions are opinions, but to put all that energy into uploading videos and spew hate is a bit sad, when it could instead be used into creating something nice. At the same time I still want them to exist though (I mean, in a vid like this they are adorable) so its most def a double edged sword.
Those are the kids if you punch them in their face they call the cops...
@@stewartdowouis9218 true. i always trust spaz basement kids for my music taste
Through the Eyes of the Dead is always forgotten in the Deathcore conversation and they were one of the best bands to come from the genre.
This is fact
Big facts
Ian Riise I think what you're saying is correct, but I feel like TTEOTD is a fringe case. They had the breakdowns of deathcore, but much of their songwriting was rooted in death metal and melodeath. The emphasis on breakdowns pretty much disappeared by Malice and since then, I wouldn't consider them deathcore at all.
EDIT: Well, I guess a lot of deathcore 1.0 bands had similar songwriting as TTEOTD. I think I'm biased, and comparing today's deathcore (which has MUCH more emphasis on breakdowns) to early deathcore, where the emphasis was less, and there was a lot more death metal and melodeath styling.
@@richardsinclair7661 You're right. I remember when Malice came out I loved it but a lot of my friends were disappointed because it strayed away from Deathcore. Still though, I'm surprised that TTEOTD never seems to be mentioned in videos or articles about the history of deathcore. The Bloodlust album and the song Two Inches From a Main Artery in particular were a big deal when they came out.
Erik Rutan helped do Malice. That album stands out. It was my favorite out of all the deathcore bands pushing out stuff.
Atthegatescore ftw. All Shall Perish, Through The Eyes Of The
Dead, The Black Dahlia Murder, As Blood Runs Black. Yes.
I love it too. People are like "They sound like At the Gates." I know!
I was never a deathcore fan but I do own cd's by: All shall perish, as blood runs black and the black dahlia murder. so I guess I am !
also any subgenre that goes for an At The Gates Sound I think is going to win me over lol
isnt black dahlia murder melodeath? I havent listened to them yet but I read somewhere that they weren't deathcore
@@Fel1xF7W Its melodeath, but i have more the feeling of the Death part than melo.
@Jackass Of Rivia i remember discovering all shall perish for the first time, i felt so cool doing math homework and it was easy to concentrate because i couldn't understand the lyrics
Remember that gold foil "STAY BR00TAL" v neck shirt?
Yes I do. They must've made it pink and glittery gold just to piss assholes like me off lol. As a huge metalhead who loved brutal death metal like suffocation (who used to always say things on stage like "stay brutal!", unironically), I was always triggered af back then seeing tiny scene kids listening to whiny emo music wear that. Especially if they said it was because they liked "br00tal metal" then mentioned bands where the vocals sounded more like injured crying than metal screams. It was kids like that I blame for everyone immediately saying "eww you like that screamo stuff?" whenever I said I was a metal fan.
Lol, just bought one after I saw this comment
I'd love to see an Episode on "Mathcore" or how people want to call it. I mean Bands like Dillinger, Botch, Danza, Converge and all the new and young bands filling the void.
Hell yeah but Dillinger would just own the whole video lol
The Chariot
None of those bands are "mathcore"....
Mathcore isn't even a metal genre.
Alex Terrible is the new Deathcore celeb. He does a great job with self marketing of himeslf, his band, and his genre. I wouldn't be surprised if we see a huge spike in the genre just because of him.
Look at him now, he has become the face of the genre and STP is probably the biggest deathcore band out right now.
I still remember when he was just a kid doing sick covers on TH-cam
True. He did some deathcore vocal covers of some famous songs, and it attracted a lot of people to his own band. It’s called the “Russian hate project” by the way.
The spike is happening but I don’t think it will be huge. Hopefully we at least finally get good deathcore tours in the US
Your comment was a year ago, and I think this year has proven you correct, given the success of Slaughter’s new album and Lorna Shore’s explosion in popularity this year.
My favorite part about these videos are finding out about really obscure but really talented bands. Thank you!
Dude my high school years were 06-10 and this was basically just a nostalgia trip all the way through, and shoutouts to you for the OG Suffokate clips, the pre-Ricky era of that band has basically been completely forgotten.
Suffokate will live on in my heart!!
Samme!
YG MURDARIO same here
Same, I remember all that stuff.
Acid Bath helped fuse grunge, death metal and melodic metal but they never get recognition.
Acid Bath is Bad Ass!
Too bad rotten records FUCKING SUCKS AND TOTALLY HELD THEM BACK! Still angry
@@vingaxoc6543 I’m still they got away and were able to maintain musical careers at least. That “record label” can suck my mp3’s.
Yea it's also the fault of their shitty record label
Their second record is pretty much the blueprint for half the stoner doom bands out there and yet most people focus on their first LP. Kinda frustrating.
I miss the Myspace days. I found so many unknown bands through that site and even had a few conversations with some of my favorite musicians.
Same! That how i found out about this band called "Elysia"
Check Eat A Helicopter they're pretty good
@@terdole9034 hell yeah
Imagine thinking the actual band members were replying to you 😂🤣
"Deathcore is a ripoff of death metal with breakdowns."
Death metal is a ripoff of death metal without breakdowns.
Death Metal came first but whatever...
lukino 5 it’s irony bruh
You mean "Death metal is a ripoff of deathcore without breakdowns" haha
You had one chance and couldn’t deliver without writing what was supposed to be written. 🤦♂️
This original post went over a lot of heads, I see.
Not surprised Make Them Suffer wasn’t mentioned in the video, but kind of disappointed I haven’t seen them in the comments. Their fan base has always felt like a bit of a cult following, but I think their 2012 Neverbloom is one of the best deathcore albums ever recorded
now they have one of the greatest metalcore albums (How To Survive a Funeral)
I feel like Make Them Suffer changed alot over the years to be still considered Deathcore
8 months later, and hear I am looking for THIS COMMENT! I’m not really a huge fan of deathcore. But, Make Them Suffer is incredible!
They’re metal core bro
@@ryang3225 eh, sometimes.
"Deathcore killed itself, just like a lot of..."
Scene kids?
"...other genres."
Oh.
😂
I mean, scene kids were very similar to emo kids, but they weren't depressed like emo kids. And deathcore is almost never associated with emo
Sam J. Boomhauer not at all! Scene kids actually wore colors and not just black lol
@@aristotleasparaguspodcast1129 Some scene kids were definitely depressed even if they didn't look like it. You can't tell whether someone has depression based on how they look or necessarily even how they behave, anyway, and depression isn't the only reason why somebody would commit suicide.
While I was never a scene kid myself (because I was too fat and ugly and it was decidedly not metal to be a scene kid, and I wanted to be a metalhead even though the breakdowns and autotune and unicorns and rainbows were already bubbling under the surface), I did interact with my fair share of scene kids back in the day and many of them were pretty open about having mental health problems (some to the point of fetishising mental illness, in which cases it can be dubious whether or not they actually had any, but it wasn't the "everyone and their dog has PTSD" levels reached a couple of years later, and for many it was obviously just self-aware exaggeration and a humorous coping mechanism).
Reasons to commit suicide that don't necessarily involve depression (but are likely to) include an inescapable life situation, such as being bullied at school or molested by an older relative, both of which, for obvious reasons, many scene kids had to deal with; that's not victim blaming, by the way, I just mean they were hot and older relatives of teens are known for their inability to control their sexual impulses to begin with, and "normal kids" hated them and as such bullying ensued. It's fucked up, yes, but that was reality for at least some scene kids.
Maybe a very low percentage of all scene kids committed suicide, I don't think statistics exist, but if we are to accept that scene kids had a higher than average rate of depression and/or other mental illness, then they didn't magically stop being depressed and/or otherwise mentally ill the second they stopped being scene kids, and would probably still be more likely to commit suicide than the average person even after they stopped being scene kids. If someone who was a scene kid commits suicide after they're no longer a scene kid, they'd still be a scene kid who committed suicide.
Now, obviously I'm just speculating here and basing most of it on anecdotes and going way too in detail to explain a stupid joke, but the point is that a lot of scene kids were in fact depressed. As for how many "a lot" is in terms of percentage, I have no idea, but of the ones I interacted with back in the day, I'd say about half were clearly depressed. That's probably not applicable to all scene kids, but I'd still bet that there was a higher incidence of depression among scene kids than the entire populace.
Anyway, now that that's all out of the way, can we agree that scene girls were hot and that we'd all pop mad boners if there was a proper resurgence of scene fashion? And that we'd also enjoy a new wave of scenecore bands? Please don't let me be the only one... I don't want to have nostalgia boners and nostalgia eargasms all by myself!
@@DxExSx ok
Thy art is murder are still really big deathcore band. Still got a lot of brutal breakdowns in there songs.
They blow comparied to lorna shore or shadow of intent
Completely agree man,saw them a few weeks ago and it was one of the best shows I've ever seen.
Love human target too.
New ss is pretty brutal as well
TAIM used to be a great band, now just another sellout
@@faptotixfap I wouldn't say that they have sold out, but I don't think that they will ever be the same band due to the line up change.
Holy war and hate will never be beaten.
Dubstep was literally the spiritual successor the deathcore, heavy dubstep is where all the core kids went. So many guitarists and vocalists I knew became dj’s
Yep. Skrillex being the biggest example
Skrillex band wasn't deathcore, more like post-hardcore or 2000s emo@@naheemquattlebaum2267
Weird
And then they died too.
Moving to... trap? Lol
@@Mr9mannsaud Ahmed of the crimson armada/holy guile which can be debated if they were metalcore or deathcore did trap metal for a long time after
Lorna shores "Immortal" is one of the best albums I've heard for a while, deathcore or not. Same with Whitechapels newest album. I think you just have to comb through the oversaturated scene to find the gems
This is truth straight up. There are some true gems out there that really know their place in the genre
Personally I love both The Valley and Immortal, but from a different point of view. They both show that the two aforementioned bands are moving towards different genres. Whitechapel now tends more toward the melodeath/prog/ kinda Lamb Of God and BTBAM style of metalcore, only with much less breakdowns and more death metal riffs, while Lorna Shore (especially after CJ McCreery's departure) are slowly revealing themselves as a blackened death metal band disguised as a deathcore band, which is their true identity. It only takes two listens at tracks such as Obsession, Death Portrait or Relentless Torment to see it. While the first two tracks could fit perfectly on a Belphegor record, the latter is basically a 6/4 version of Behemoth's "O Father O Satan O Sun". Sure, they're standout records, but imho they don't fit the definition of "deathcore" at all, not even if you listen to their breakdowns, which are either slammy or more proggy and Meshuggah-ish.
And shadow of intent is goated
HUGE ups for the ANIMOSITY shout-out! deathcore for life!
Shadow Of Intent, Infant Annihilator, Fit For An Autopsy, Lorna Shore, Traitors, Shrine Of Malice, To The Grave, Hunt The Dinosaur, Signs Of The Swarm, Sold Soul, Drown In Sulphur, Slaughter To Prevail, and so many more bands are going hard to this day. The scene is evolving insanely
Recently started getting into Deathcore and my favorite so far is Signs of The Swarm. So good :0
Menace, Hard Look, Brojob,
They mostly now evolved to one man bands. Also mixing modern styles to the deathcore sound
Lorna shore nearly has 1million monthly listeners
"I think" is not "this is true"
Gtf over yourself
Really hope that your next episode of this is on neon pop punk (AKA power pop and even synth pop at times, with a pop punk aesthetic)
Definitely!
I know I’m not the only one who still loves and listens to deathcore :(
You're not alone brother, deathcore is still alive and well in my heart.
Me too bud
no matter what anyone says the scene is still booming and alive in the underground its not going anywhere anytime soon trust me your not alone a ton of people love it still.
I'm a fan
Me too
Infant Annihilator, Lorna Shore and Slaughter To Prevail, Shadow of Intent :
"Are we a joke to you?"
yes
I’m glad to know the Finn has been keeping up on his Excel 2019 Data Analysis and Business Management.
Hey! I don't know if it's your thing exactly but I'd love to see 'how Skrillex changed the game'. Him applying hardcore energy to bass music really changed the face of dubstep and electronic music in general in the early 10s, and he became the poster boy for 'guy with a laptop playing to a stadium' to me. Hearing Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites for the first time was one of the biggest 'holy shit' moments in music for me and I'm sure I'm not the only one who listened to a bunch of 'top 10 FILTHIEST drops' TH-cam compilations in 2012. He's also proven he can change up his sound in big ways and stay relevant over a long period of time. It seems like he pissed off a lot of people with his 'brostep' sound but he remained super grounded to both the hardcore and underground bass music scenes the whole time. I'd say he's a big part of the reason a lot of people got into heavy bass music when they could have gotten into hardcore/metal. Would love to hear your thoughts!
SECONDED! Could also tie in some of the hybrid-electronic bands that led up to the 2010-2012 scene-kid ⇛ EDM exodus, like Attack Attack! (I know you already covered them, but they fit in to so many parts of history), Abandon All Ships, Enter Shikari, Statix-X, A Skylit Drive (to a minor extent), Breathe Carolina, and especially Cash Cash (who were the only group to just fully migrate between genres seamlessly).
Along with those bands, it seems like a disproportionate amount of the biggest Electronic (and especially dubstep) artists came from the metal+hardcore scene, in addition to Skrillex. Borgore and Seven Lions were both metal drummers, Sullivan King is doing some GREAT metal-dubstep hybrid shit right now, Kayzo just put out a collab album with a bunch of artists and played a show in Vegas last year with Of Mice and Men, Bassnectar started in metal, Getter played guitar and drums early on, and the list goes on.
Kris honestly with the way things are going I think dubstep/riddim and also dark trap is now the new metal in a way cause it’s so much more in your face and it’s more relevant to where it’s hard to find a band of people instead of just making the music yourself
Mans really said “Seltic frost”
Hard K. HARD K!
Keltic frost
That shit triggered me lol
Where's Tom G Warrior when you need him? Please set this guy straight!
Cael-tic frost.
Some newer deathcore is still ripping today but never getting the exposure it deserves.
There are still unique sounding Deathcore bands if you are willing to dig. Give Car Bomb a listen if you don't believe me.
@@brysonharrison5698 thanks for the suggestion man!
@@brysonharrison5698 Car Bomb and deathcore should never be in the same sentence.
Idk man new Lorna shore album made to #62 billboards top albums
@Lurker files Well, yeah, of course. But there's a lot of deathcore that's getting wide acclaim, not just some dude on TH-cam lol
There’s a fifth wave of deathcore coming, bands like shadow of intent are making a new style of deathcore
Fuck yeah. My girlfriend has been bumpin alot of shrine of malice. I got her hooked on them demon vocals
I haven't heard them but I just want to say I fucking hate the "djent" deathcore bands that came out later on.
Shadow Of Intent, Sold Soul, Shrine Of Malice, Brand Of Sacrifice, Aversions Crown, A Night In Texas, Babirusa, Chelsea Grin .. all are standout bands in this sub genre
@@CheapSushi CheapSushi you gotta jump on dat new new wave. Fuckinn if your interested, I just found this band called to the grave. Check out their song wastage. And listen to the whole thing. If you like heavy music I'm sure it wont disappoint. If you dont like it, well theres always hardcore
@@CheapSushi the breakdown is super nasty so I highly reccomend waitin for that shixt
Whoa, when you mentioned how mitch lucker was essentially the front man for deathcore and the genre got lost when he died really hit me and everything made sense. Damn 😭💔
It's sad because neither of those things were true
DR. ACULA REUNION
That's all I have to say
TRVSHBXVT
Yes man .
Damn I forgot about them. I am go hear them.
I thought they were still at it i know they've had a billion lineup changes
@@BlueBeetle1939 they had a hiatus with the last lineup but I'm pretty sure now it's mostly (if not all) the original 2005 lineup
D00000000D!! , ... Let's get Ah Ah Invisible!
I remember back in 2008-2012 there seemed to be a "big" deathcore show every week. Now there are very few metal shows happening around me, kinda sad.
I consider myself lucky though being able to see all those great bands in their prime.
Dude straight up true I in my town we had great run and good promoters there was at least 3 great shows a month I was I was lucky enough to see the guys that are still around and made it big in underground shows awesome times!
TikTok and faceberg killed the scene bro
It's nice how badly this video aged.
>some 34 year old death metal guy in cargo shorts
I feel personally attacked, despite not taking myself particularly seriously.
We are legion
Deathcore 2.0 coincided with my high school years and I couldn't get enough of it. Here I am 10 Years later still listening to the Jerome Demo
all time classic
I'm an old school thrash metal guy who loved Metal Core and Death core. Suicide Silence, Whitechapel, Chelsea Grin, Veil of Maya etc. Love that shit. I feel like they all kind of came together in the end and made a lot of good music variety.
so glad someone realized what made this scene so popular when it waz starting out and that is the shows were just fun. you could feel.the energy in these bands being excited kids were digging them and just happy to be playing music and on tour and it showed through in yhe music and at the shows. that kind of sincerity is infectious...
Jason Weddington so someone needs to usher in the fun with the serious next. Anthrax meets Exhumed and Emperor.
rorz999 violence and fun can c0-exist. Looks at Dillinger Escape Plan for starters...
Within the Ruins
After the Burial
Beneath the Massacre
Why does that sound like a horror film trilogy XD
STARPHASE good old preposition-the-noun bands
I was lucky enough to play guitar with Justin Lowe before he passed. On multiple occasions he and I played guitar in my basement and I learned a lot from him. RIP \m/
@@Joshua-ww1fz
Betraying the Martyr
Attacking the Vision
Applaud the Impaler
Becoming the Archetype (not Deathcore but you're right)
Jobforacowboy really shifted the scene when they dropped their EP.
"Moshing in a kitchen to these ridiculous songs that make no sense..."
Holy shit, that brings back some good memories. I was in the band playing in the kitchen
A girl whose stuck in 2010 appreciates this video.
kaylen kuenn lets be friends lol
J.G. Wentworth that’s rough
@@paulthe2mikolajdupontsrens586 simp
@@J.G.Wentworth69420 damn, you went hard on my guy lol
@@J.G.Wentworth69420 lmao, perfect response
Just because you don’t care about deathcore anymore doesn’t mean it died.
As someone who likes metal and rap, it made me so stoked to hear you mention City Morgue, Zilla and Sos are killing it right now
....
Absolute fax. dudes are going places
City morgue is badass
scarlxrd>>>
I enjoy modern deathcore, bands like Infant Annihilator, Shadow of Intent, Black Tongue. I do understand what you mean by them being overproduced though. Infant’s first album really suffered due to that, but there next ones were able to fix that in my opinion
Shadow of Internet is cool
Signs of the Swarm is a pretty cool band as well...kickass band from Pittsburgh...personally I love the idea of local modern deathcore talent...interesting stuff
The overproductions better honestly I don’t want to listen to black metal that sounds like it’s mixed like shit. It’s just stupid now days with how easy it is to mix it on daw software
NOTQUITE? The shitty production on black metal is pretty dead now, most bands don’t do it anymore. Listen to Abbath if you want some decent black metal
Lorna Shore - Immortal is pretty sick, too. Even oldschool Bands like Whitechapel with "The Valley" still go really fucking hard
When will "blackcore" become a thing? Black metal + hardcore. Not something I would listen to, but black metal elitists getting angry about it would be worth it.
It's kind of already a thing, except it's more of a crust punk thing. Just look up subgenre's like "blackened crust", or "blackened hardcore". Or, just listen to Young and in the Way's EP V. Eternal Depression.
Check out: The Infamous Gehenna, Gnapenstob, The Secret and Noise Trail Immersion for some damn good blackend hardcore bby g x
look up d-sagawa
Pleadure Needs Pain Raspberry Bulbs, Cara Neir, Cuntroaches, Seeker on the more metalcore end of things, Young and In the Way, the whole "'mysterious guy' hardcore" phenomenon, all of those weird blackened d-beat and crustcore bands with ten-minute cassettes with eight songs apiece...
Black breath razor to oblivion
"and i remember thinking 'did every deathcore band just discover meshuggah this year?' and the answer was yes, they did"
great line lmfao
I love deathcore even to this day. Bands like Slaughter to Prevail, Drown In Sulfer, Infant Annihilator, and Shadow of Intent are really changing the game, I feel. But I do agree, Mitch Lucker was the Bach of Deathcore. When Bach died Baroque died.
Lorna Shore and Thy Art are still going strong (more or less)
What do you mean by changing the game none of those bands seem to be evolving the sound?
demolisher, oceano and monsters radically changed the illinois music scene. it made chicago seem like such a prestigious place to play and be from. the killer and warhound were still keeping the hardcore scene strong. man what a great time for illinois music.
I’VE FAILED YOU ONCE AGAIN, YET YOU STILL HOLD MY HAND!
What a time to be alive, when you could be a scene kid and bands like Bring me the Horizon and Paramore could give you the exact same clout.
That's not a good thing.
Scene Kids were/are pure trash
Deathcore is so awesome and always has been since I discovered it in 2008. It has carried me through life ever since and I’m walking on air every day. Thank you to the bands for having such a strong influence on my life!
No
Deathcore 4.0 is where it’s at, tons of new music dropped in 19 and more on the way in 20 😍
Lorna Shore and Reflection are almost album of the year for me so far. Suicide Silence's new album is really good and last year was hella nice for Deathcore.
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Blackwind album by drown in sulfur is pretty damn good
@@AllThingsEntertaining amazing album, they gonna left mark with it gonna be one of the top 10 albums of modern metal
@@AllThingsEntertaining A shame CJ McCreery went out like that. I feel like Loran Shore could of gone places with him.
A few things:
* My one problem with deathcore is the reliance on breakdown-style riffs. In hardcore, breakdowns build and release tension. When you *start* with (what feels like) the breakdown, there's nowhere to go...
* You're definitely on to something when you say it was by-the-kids, for-the-kids, and hated by the metal establishment and press. That's what I want to pay attention to.
* I put out that first Undying EP! There was definitely something in the water in North Carolina! Folks should check out the band Sect, it's ex-members of Undying, Prayer for Cleansing, Day of Suffering, Earth Crisis, etc...
Ha! Amazing, small world! NC scene was sick back then
> Deathcore 1.0
> The Acacia Strain
*Vincent wants to know your location*
Next video: What Killed Brian Stars
He was always cringey
Kristian Bullard Christopher drew nuff said
Step 1: Make terrible music
Step 2: Get exposed as a scammer
Step 3: That’s it, that’s how he fell off
@@joeybatmania9327 A lot more than that lol
@@joeybatmania9327 yeah he kinda killed himself.. unlikejefferyepstein
"What killed bebop"
"What killed baroque"
"What killed ragtime"
"What killed ska"
Ragtime 😂😂😂
Time destroys everything.
I LOVE how you always mention Prong. One of my absolute favorite bands and massively underrated.
SS has a new album out this week. Going to their show this Friday at Brick by Brick.
My condolences
Cant wait for the new memes 🤪
I've liked 2 of the 3 pre-release tracks I've heard, so that's better than the last album at least. I wanted to see them in NC but BTBAM's 20th anniversary tour is happening, so yeeeeeeaaaaah.
Patrick Cunningham I hope it’s good. Their last release put me off them for a long time
Sorry for you.
Nothing killed death-core they killed themselves in an ancient ritualistic suicide pact with a dark demon from the abyss. I'm pretty sure someone did an album about it. Now they roam the Earth forever undead haunting our ears with the sounds from beyond.
On a real not As Blood Runs Black is one of the best and Shadow of Intent's latest album is incredibly good.
Really glad you brought up Elysia!!! The Masochist album was the definition of deathcore to me back then
Going to a deathcore show was what got to drop my "anti-show/anti-mosh/trve-kvlt" mentality lol. I agree that deathcore really went down along with Mitch. I'm only 25 but it's weird to see a video wherre I can actually relate with a bit and say "oh shit, I remember that!", like fuck man, I lived through a scene.
Word tho!
greaveybaby yeah man. Me to me to. Like I still remember Mitch. I miss him a lot. He the reason why I’m doing deathcore vocals
I’m almost 30 years old & I still love deathcore !
I’m 33 and still do myself. But now I just say I like metal. Cuz it is
Does age really dictates the love or hate for it?
FAMOSA SEA. Yeah kinda. You grow out of things. There are a lot of bands I used to love and take seriously. Now only a handful from the past.
Shit I'm almost 40!
33 and still listening
Three reason deathcore got huge:
-It got a lot of hate from “true” Metal heads which just made the genre even more famous and made those kids push their skills
-It was underground and many bands experimented with different sounds and unique styles.
-There were many amazing debut and second albums, such as Count Your Blessings
-A lot of popularity on MySpace.
Reasons Deathcore got worse, until now:
-Unlike Born of Osiris or Rings of Saturn many later bands just kept copying the 2nd wave deathcore bands style.
-There wasn’t much hardcore elements in later years being used such as groove and many deathcore bands ended up just becoming your generic death metal band or emo shit.
(This is my perspective, but add yours I really never looked into deathcore before so this genre’s history is a little new to me)
And, JFACB....Doom.
"Deathcore killed itself". Sounds about right.
@@Julian.Perasso i think it isn't dead but as a commercial or mainstream then yes
Deathcore used to be more popular, now it's a niche
Fear before the March of flames was who got me into deathcore! I know they are on the edge of deathcore but artdamage by them was defiantly deathcore.
MetalcoreRyan bro loved that album
I honestly think deathcore is in the best place it's ever been. With Fit For An Autopsy being the absolute kings imo, and having released 3 masterpieces back to back now. Other bands such as Lorna Shore, Aversions Crown and even Whitechapel are also doing fantastic stuff.
As far as older deathcore goes I can only think of No Time to Bleed by SS and New Era by Whitechapel as ones I still actively listen to.
I do agree on the toxic fanbase. I'm glad I'm more of a djent/prog guy. That scene is far more welcoming.
fit for a king
@@guitarplayer1495 That's metalcore, moreso now than ever before.
@@KhaosKontroller a black rose burial
I feel like a lot of what killed Deathcore is that the bands themselves "aged out" in a sense. They're sounds evolved and matured past what it used to be, in some cases forming new sub-genres entirely (i.e. Acacia Strain being "doomcore"). Also, while the new Whitechapel album could be called Deathcore, it sounds like absolutely nothing else that I've heard. It ranges from heavy and downright horrific, to some of the most beautiful guitar passages I've heard, especially from the genre.
@@xerodelacroix5552 Opeth is more agressive than whitechapel new album i would say.
Sounds like you'd call that progdeathcore? 😅 Idk, sounds interesting though. Even though I like Opeth's melodic stuff like Damnation (one of the most beautiful albums I've ever listened to) I really wish they'd go back to death metal. I might check out this Whitechapel album if I get bored later, sounds like it's up my alley.
Front to back, Allegiance is by far my favorite deathcore album of all time.
SAME BRUV
I like the album but prefer Humanity, unfortunately that was removed from spotify so I had to put a youtube mp3 onto my phone
Now we're definitely at the Deathcore 5.0 era :)
I would love to see you make a video on how progressive music became a part of extreme music slowly. With bands like Dream Theater, Metallica (And Justice For All Era), Cynic, Atheist, BTBAM and The Contortionist.
Love your videos btw we’ve been needed a channel like yours in heavy music for a long time.
Thank you!
Progressive metal is not djent. Two seperate styles.
@@pleadureneedspain5649 nobody here said it was
•Progressive metal
• No "Periphery"
Why? I mean,yeah,it also was Djent,but hell,at the same time they really sound like progressive metal
@@pleadureneedspain5649 Djent as a genre is a subgenre of prog metal, saying Djent isn't prog metal is like saying melodic death metal isn't death metal.
This whole youtube channel is just an excuse for Finn to make charts.
fact
And to somehow bring up Earth Crisis and VOD
I appreciate your honesty with everything, most people in the metal & punk scenes would never admit they like peep and emo rap, I dig how you don’t hate on things even the stuff you don’t like
Damn earned a sub this dude definitely knows his stuff he got everything 1000% right I’m more 2.0-3.0 era but I remember being the first in my group of friends to like heavy music and they would laugh and not believe me then they all got hooked on it and then by the time the black crown came out I remember getting laughed at because my favorite song on the album was the one that had the feature funny stuff now they all love stuff like that.
You gotta learn punctuation if you're gonna use periods, bruh.
Early underoath “act of depressions - cries of the past” is some early examples of deathcore too
I loved oath with Dallas Taylor. Much more intense than spenser
Dead to fall, apathemy, Rune, and UO’s act of depression are all early renditions of deathcore with albums coming out from 98-2001. Seems like this was a pivotal part in straying from the classic metal, hardcore punk, and emo as you also get things like Skramz in this era
Deathcore variations seem to be making a comeback at the moment.
I think deathcore evolved more into what is now known as the hardcore scene, with bands like Code Orange, Loathe, Vein, etc. I haven’t heard any hype from trap metal lately.
Maybe its a small niche rather than a big boom. But a niche that get its big traction somehow . Weird phenomenon.
Loathe isn't considered Hardcore, they are Metalcore like Emmure
Totally thinking it.
Maybe the community rejects the super-specific terms of metalcore, deathcore, grindcore, etc...
Feels like the concept of subgenres kinda collapsed and the hardcore scene reunited. Maybe Bane has something to do with that.
Quentin Childs What city did you live in that this is what the hardcore scene turned into?
I think it evolved into the “Djent” scene actually. Hardcore has always just been itself