@@turkeyguyorsomethinggobble3639 It is the best it has been for a while. Being a really good NU mon is quite amazing. Not as amazing as SS ZU but still really really good mon.
Moltres is actually at the right place at the right time It's ability shuts down a lot of physical attackers who are dominating the current OU great tusk,valiant(physical version) It adapted to the meta
Something to note is that in the first several months of the Crown Tundra metagame, Moltres was actually a legitimate OU mon due to being able to check a lot of the more broken mons in the tier, such as non-Electric variations of Genesect and Magearna, Cinderace, and most notably Pheromosa, while also matching up well against other threats such as Weavile and Melmetal. However, the metagame after these threats got banned got a whole lot worse for Moltres, and it ended up dropping to UU as a result. As it stands, post-HDB Moltres has shown that it is very metagame dependent mon on whether or not it is good in OU.
It's a shame that Articuno unfairly received the 125 points of special in his defense and not in attack. Otherwise I think it would be a good choice for rain teams.
@@fdaa3154 It makes a bit of sense as ice is really solid, heavy and sturdy. Its just, they didn't give it any resistances and a ton of weaknesses. While offensively they made it pretty strong. So, how they imagine ice types is different to how ice types perform in game.
@@fdaa3154 Yeah, because they made it a bad type, that isn't suitable for the intended purpose the type has. Rock has some of the same issues too, having too many weaknesses to be that good defensively, but doesn't have it quite as bad as ice has it.
I wouldn't write off Iron Mugiulus just yet... Since it's a future Paradox Form of Sinistea, It might try to evolve to do its nefarious deeds once more
I think it'd be a really cool idea topic to talk about power creep in Pokémon, and what moves in particular caused the shift in power from gen 3 to 4, and especially 4 to 5. For example, how Baton Pass was your really only pivoting move, as opposed to gen 4's U turn, and Focus Punch as opposed to Close Combat
Articuno needs an entire rework. Bro has a glass cannon type but specced for the tank build. Itd need like Snow warning As a hidden ability plus a stat rework so it can spam Stab hurricane plus unmissable blizzards. A diet Iron bundle, but still itd be okay. Maybe even give it earth power.
Breaking news: it seems like the past paradox form of Sinistea, Great Spoon, has come to our era under the guise of Poltchageist to try and stop the evil deeds of its future counterpart, Iron Mugulis, once and for all.
Does this mean we're getting a Articuno vid next? Cuz I'm all here for it. The new buff ice types got with snow does make me wonder if Articuno at least have been tested a bit more than previous gens... in vgc at least
Thank you for the insightful videos on these meta games I don't play Mr. Cool. It has become a ritual to listen to your morning uploads while I am working my job 😊
Hey id like to give some productive feed back on the sound with my ear buds in I heard alot of clipping and poping heart to listen too , btw I love the content I was trying to trade my og moltress from bank to home today I'm so glad I saw this video :)
@@Muniz_z Stealth Rock should be Steel type, have much, MUCH less distribution, and deal 1/2/3 layers of spikes worth of damage. 1/2/3 for neutral/2x/4x. It'd be better if they were removed and replaced with a better entry hazard, it's been 16 years, surely they can think of something... Stealth Rock is so arbitrary and has way too much impact.
Stealth rocks was really an unneeded move for the game. A mon taking half HP on entering the field because your opponent clicked rocks once is so stupid. I wish for a metagame where rocks are banned
Many people have probably said this already but I absolutely love the way you plug your channel. I never thought the "like and subscribe" portion of videos would have so much lore lol. Long live the Phoenix
Can’t wait to see your reaction to the new grass ghost type sinistea they just announced we definitely have to many grass ghost none of them are even that good
Super happy to see Moltres in OU. It's fun to use and a great utility pokemon. Soaks up common fairy hits with SpDef investment. Favorite returning though has to be Dnite. It is so versatile and even 1 DD lets you really decimate opponents with Espeed, especially tera normal
Hey Jim wondering if u could make my gardevoir memento Smeargle DD team better. I'm that one crazy dude running it. I know it's gimmicky but I wonder what you thought of it when we played
Great video, I just wanted to say that Moltres was OU in gen 8 for a little bit and then fell off again and the same could happen this gen. Regardless I’m just happy this rubber chicken is getting a chance.
you forgot to mention that in gen 8 he received scorching sands. a ground type 70 power special move with 30% chance to burn the target. I wonder why this move is not currently available in gen 9. maybe it will be added later through dlc.
Its strange to think of flame body as a good ability, since for most of pokemons history its been on offensive frail fire pokemon who of course were stealth rock weak. But this generation with moltres and talonflame, its showing that it is a pretty strong ability on defensive pokemon in a metagame with a lot of physical chip damage, and no way to really heal status as heal bell and aromatherapy are rare moves.
Jimothy this is an emergency, Pokémon just announced a new regional form for Polteageist. Is this the doing of iron mugulis??? I thought this menace was done for but we may have something to worry about once more 😢
I’m so excited to see that the accumulation of Jimothy Cool subscribers has convinced Iron Mugulis to stop its threats of criminal shenanigans. And Moltres is also pretty cool.
Jimothy. in the newest trailer for the pokemon dlc, a new form of snisistea was announce, going on a spree of death and green thìngs, its not even in the game, and it already have a body count! As the voice against the the future Paradox form of sisnistea, iron mugglus, what are your thoughts on this monster?
I think Stealth Rock doesn't need erasure but definitely needs a nerf - I propose that instead of 12.5/25/50% (neutral/2x/4x) should do the same damage 1/2/3 layers of spikes. Steel would also be a more balanced type than rock, hitting Fairies harder would bring them in line as well as buffing Fire, Bug and Flying (Bug SERIOUSLY needs buffs)
Been running it for years despite the rocks weakness. Its a beast. Also it was the best card I pulled in the original card series and then a kid tricked me out of it. So I have a special place in my heart for them.
I think the lack of knock and other free clicks like that in gen 9 compared to gen 8 has also been super helpful - gen 8 made it super difficult to pivot into moltres against physical mons it should check with flame body if rocks were up and they had knock.
Fire types are just inherently bad in Gen 1 since their STAB coverage is covered by Ice moves, it doesn't resist Ice and has too many common weaknesses. Moltres is scary since it can brute force past some would-be checks (Rhydon and Golem take a lot from Fire Blast despite resistance) and Fire Blast had a 30% burn chance which punishes said checks.
@@ShiningJudgment666 i wouldn't say fire typing is inherently bad in gen 1. it's just kinda a very middle of the pack type. And when half your ou team is gonna be normal type, and you're gonna have at least 1 psychic type, theres only 2 other spots to put a fire type, and generally you'd rather go with a more consistent mon than Moltres.
What I find interesting is that atm both Fire/Flying and Electric/Flying share similar defensive niches and hence Moltres and Zapdos work sorta similarly in Gen 9 OU
HD boots in gen 8 was a huge help but knock off was everywhere. In gen 9 Moltres gets to keep boots on. So not taking 50% on entering the field is a big buff to a very good Mon otherwhise
With how much I hear about stealth rock destroying a lot of two times weakness Pokémon, I would really want to see them add a new type of entry hazzards. Like a torch floor (fire) or spiky weeds (grass) or icebergs (ice) just to let flying, fire, and bug have a little bit of they don’t always have to run heavy duty boots
This mon is OU again from RU and it's a solid physical wall as due to volcarona's ban there is no competition for a flame body pokemon so it can punish physical attacks like kingambit , Great tusk , Dragonite and many more with burn and it can use the advantage of heavy duty boots, it can ignore stealth rocks unless it's knocked off and it is not bad on offense either it can hit decently hard with it's STABS so it's a solid mon in OU
moltres should get an ability relating to how it heals in magma. like taking damage triggers roost to recover after rocks. or if flare blitz heals instead of recoiling
2:22 Another factor that harms Gen 1 Fire-types is that the ONLY way to thaw out a frozen Pokemon is through being hit by a move that can burn - and only Fire moves (apart from Fire Spin) can do that. Since being frozen is essentially a luck-based KO here, no-one would ever want to _help_ their opponent thaw out, and thus no-one uses Fire moves in Gen 1. It doesn't help that Fire doesn't have any useful targets, since Bugs are pathetically weak and Grass is already hit hard by Ice moves (and, since most Grass-types have the Poison typing too, by Psychic as well); Steel doesn't exist yet, and Ice-types are already mostly weak to Electric (Water/Ice), hit hard by special blows (Cloyster), or bulldozed through by Tauros (Jynx).
Articuno’s Rare Uses in Competitive.
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I really tried giving it a shot around Gen 6-7. There are just better ice-types unfortunately.
Next: Why is articuno even worse.
Guys I can terra out of my bad defensive type. I must be good right?
Right?
@@turkeyguyorsomethinggobble3639 It is the best it has been for a while. Being a really good NU mon is quite amazing. Not as amazing as SS ZU but still really really good mon.
Then it's just a picture of ice
Articuno is my favorite of the three and it’s sad to see it as just bad. Even in Gen 1 it was just spam ice move
I came down here to say this
Moltres is actually at the right place at the right time
It's ability shuts down a lot of physical attackers who are dominating the current OU great tusk,valiant(physical version)
It adapted to the meta
I believe that the meta just so accidentally adapted to make moltres good
i still dont understand this mentality, moltress for sure doesn't want to risk getting its boots knocked off, the trade off is not worth it
Its*
And as soon as that changes it'll come back to UU. Moltres is mostly an answer for the current climate that otherwise would prefer Skeledirge.
@@oofjeff3735yeah but knock off has really limited distribution and it's biggest user (great tusk) hates getting burned and gets bodied by moltres
I wish articono got a buff it really deserves and needs one
The buff is not being ice type
@@elilopez6260or ice being a better type
@@elilopez6260 Fr. Being Ice and Flying ain't worth it. Being Ice on something overly offensive makes sense atleast
Articuno doesn't be cooking
Just remove it from the game… probably get a better ranking in the tiers
It needs ice scales or something at this point lol
Something to note is that in the first several months of the Crown Tundra metagame, Moltres was actually a legitimate OU mon due to being able to check a lot of the more broken mons in the tier, such as non-Electric variations of Genesect and Magearna, Cinderace, and most notably Pheromosa, while also matching up well against other threats such as Weavile and Melmetal. However, the metagame after these threats got banned got a whole lot worse for Moltres, and it ended up dropping to UU as a result.
As it stands, post-HDB Moltres has shown that it is very metagame dependent mon on whether or not it is good in OU.
I was literally about to write the same thing. Bro missed that Moltres, Nidoking, and Rhyperior were in OU last gen for a pretty good amount of time.
It's a shame that Articuno unfairly received the 125 points of special in his defense and not in attack. Otherwise I think it would be a good choice for rain teams.
GF hates ice type
Articuno would still be mediocre at best: it‘s the only bird whose stab is resisted by steel, while still being slow and having many weaknesses
@@fdaa3154 It makes a bit of sense as ice is really solid, heavy and sturdy.
Its just, they didn't give it any resistances and a ton of weaknesses. While offensively they made it pretty strong.
So, how they imagine ice types is different to how ice types perform in game.
@@fdaa3154 Yeah, because they made it a bad type, that isn't suitable for the intended purpose the type has.
Rock has some of the same issues too, having too many weaknesses to be that good defensively, but doesn't have it quite as bad as ice has it.
@@fdaa3154a fast ice type is a broken ice type
I haven't played singles since gen 7 so I had no idea that Moltres was good in OU. It's nice to see an old mon becoming good after so many years.
It got the Timbs.
How Zapdos Aged Perfectly.
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I wouldn't write off Iron Mugiulus just yet...
Since it's a future Paradox Form of Sinistea, It might try to evolve to do its nefarious deeds once more
Rip to the zamazenta without stone edge on the background 💀
I think it'd be a really cool idea topic to talk about power creep in Pokémon, and what moves in particular caused the shift in power from gen 3 to 4, and especially 4 to 5. For example, how Baton Pass was your really only pivoting move, as opposed to gen 4's U turn, and Focus Punch as opposed to Close Combat
Articuno needs an entire rework. Bro has a glass cannon type but specced for the tank build. Itd need like Snow warning As a hidden ability plus a stat rework so it can spam Stab hurricane plus unmissable blizzards. A diet Iron bundle, but still itd be okay. Maybe even give it earth power.
Breaking news: it seems like the past paradox form of Sinistea, Great Spoon, has come to our era under the guise of Poltchageist to try and stop the evil deeds of its future counterpart, Iron Mugulis, once and for all.
Congrats on 40k Jim!
Does this mean we're getting a Articuno vid next? Cuz I'm all here for it. The new buff ice types got with snow does make me wonder if Articuno at least have been tested a bit more than previous gens... in vgc at least
Congrats on 40k!
Thank you for the insightful videos on these meta games I don't play Mr. Cool. It has become a ritual to listen to your morning uploads while I am working my job 😊
Just when we thought we were safe from iron mugulis, his newest servant poltchageist arrives
Hey id like to give some productive feed back on the sound with my ear buds in I heard alot of clipping and poping heart to listen too , btw I love the content I was trying to trade my og moltress from bank to home today I'm so glad I saw this video :)
New video idea:
why heavy duty boots saved half the metagame
Because Defog and Rapid Spin distribution is bonkers.
Stealth Rock in general was a mistake.
@@Muniz_z Stealth Rock should be Steel type, have much, MUCH less distribution, and deal 1/2/3 layers of spikes worth of damage. 1/2/3 for neutral/2x/4x. It'd be better if they were removed and replaced with a better entry hazard, it's been 16 years, surely they can think of something... Stealth Rock is so arbitrary and has way too much impact.
Stealth rocks was really an unneeded move for the game.
A mon taking half HP on entering the field because your opponent clicked rocks once is so stupid.
I wish for a metagame where rocks are banned
@larseunic it exists it's called gen 1 ou and gen 2 ou and gen 3 ou and gen 8 ou
@@Muniz_z just because stealth rock disproportionately harms some pokemon more than others doesn't mean that it destroyed the game
Your account is taking off so fast! Im glad I was an early sub, youre awesome!!
so glad I found your channel. thanks for the video and good luck on your continued growth
Many people have probably said this already but I absolutely love the way you plug your channel. I never thought the "like and subscribe" portion of videos would have so much lore lol.
Long live the Phoenix
Poor Articuno sitting in the corner begging for Game Freak to buff it
It had its chance already with the ludicrously broken Red/Green blizzard.
Articuno did get a buff, it can hit bulky water types with freeze dry
New ability: ice body 😈
Moltres being ou is something I thought I would never see coming especially with the rising power creep in the new gamss
That poor Moltres has lost a wing
Don't say that.
Absolutely loving these new frequent uploads. Keep up the great work!!
Nice video! Moltres is underrated! I love how you use DKC and Pokemon music. Those two are my favorite Nintendo franchises and have great music!
Dude your voice is super relaxing. Great and interesting information on the subject as well
Discovered you the other day and you vids are so dope man
Big fan of Iron Mugilis, congrats on the 40k
Can’t wait to see your reaction to the new grass ghost type sinistea they just announced we definitely have to many grass ghost none of them are even that good
I won’t stand for this Trevenant slander.
who would win, a legendary phoenix-like bird, or a few pebbles that float in the sky
Moltres wasn’t even OU in Gen 3 until fairly recently. The development of the big chicken’s viability is ever-evolving, you love to see it
Congrats for the 40K subs!
can't wait for the manga adaptation of your work 'Half Full'
would you ever do a video on the galarian birds? could be neat i think
Good shit on 40k you deserve even more imo
I love moltres
Shoutout also to Moltres being one of the only pokémon not weak to Enamorus Moonblast + Earth Power
But also having stats good enough to not be worn down so fast.
if you remove moltres’ flames, it looks balder than johnny sins
Super happy to see Moltres in OU. It's fun to use and a great utility pokemon. Soaks up common fairy hits with SpDef investment. Favorite returning though has to be Dnite. It is so versatile and even 1 DD lets you really decimate opponents with Espeed, especially tera normal
congrats on 40k
Jimothy: “Will-O-Wisp is one of the best moves in the game”
Also Jimothy: shows Will-O-Wisp missing
Originally 75% hit chance ptsd kicks in
@@enoyna1001 Highest Burn chance of any move factoring in accuracy. Though the combination of Inferno and Gravity is pretty disgusting.
Hey Jim wondering if u could make my gardevoir memento Smeargle DD team better. I'm that one crazy dude running it. I know it's gimmicky but I wonder what you thought of it when we played
here I am, watching Jimothycool to vet new members for my gen 9 ou sun team :D
Another big change between Gen 8 and 9 is that so many pokemon lost knock off as well. So, moltres usually doesn't need to worry losing its boots now.
they never should have buffed KO's damage...
I love using Moltres in ADV
Meanwhile articuno: *cuts to a stock photo of frozen chicken*
Great video, I just wanted to say that Moltres was OU in gen 8 for a little bit and then fell off again and the same could happen this gen. Regardless I’m just happy this rubber chicken is getting a chance.
It's too easy to get knock off in gen 8 that's why. Moltres with boots is so strong in gen 8
Also a lot of rain teams so maybe defensive fire types are less impressive
I love how skyhops favorite pokemon is iron mugulus
you forgot to mention that in gen 8 he received scorching sands.
a ground type 70 power special move with 30% chance to burn the target.
I wonder why this move is not currently available in gen 9.
maybe it will be added later through dlc.
Yep. Only to lose the move in the Generation shift lol
Moltres: I made it man!
Zapdos: Nice man!
Moltres: Now let's wait for Articuno-
jimothy hits 40k, game freak makes a mon that looks like Sinistea, coincidence?
I think Moltres didn't got to shine that much in gen 8 because Knock off still was a wide spread move, but now in gen 9 knock off is a rare move
Valid point
Its strange to think of flame body as a good ability, since for most of pokemons history its been on offensive frail fire pokemon who of course were stealth rock weak.
But this generation with moltres and talonflame, its showing that it is a pretty strong ability on defensive pokemon in a metagame with a lot of physical chip damage, and no way to really heal status as heal bell and aromatherapy are rare moves.
Jimothy this is an emergency, Pokémon just announced a new regional form for Polteageist. Is this the doing of iron mugulis??? I thought this menace was done for but we may have something to worry about once more 😢
Oh no did this video come out before matcha mugulis reveal
We need to get Jim up to 100k subscribers in time for the climactic final battle with Iron Mugulis.
I’m so excited to see that the accumulation of Jimothy Cool subscribers has convinced Iron Mugulis to stop its threats of criminal shenanigans.
And Moltres is also pretty cool.
Me when the zamazenta my Moltres is supposed to beat clicks on stone edge 😨
I'm expecting the next videos to finish off the trio with Articuno, and then start comparing their Galarian forms.
Jimothy. in the newest trailer for the pokemon dlc, a new form of snisistea was announce, going on a spree of death and green thìngs, its not even in the game, and it already have a body count!
As the voice against the the future Paradox form of sisnistea, iron mugglus, what are your thoughts on this monster?
Current OU is literally "does it beat gambit"
I think Stealth Rock doesn't need erasure but definitely needs a nerf - I propose that instead of 12.5/25/50% (neutral/2x/4x) should do the same damage 1/2/3 layers of spikes. Steel would also be a more balanced type than rock, hitting Fairies harder would bring them in line as well as buffing Fire, Bug and Flying (Bug SERIOUSLY needs buffs)
Jimmory, I love your videos! I have always wondered, do you have a job? Or do you just do TH-cam?
-Ron
I made #1 on Showdown Gen5 OU ladder with a Moltres Rain team nearly a year ago. Definitely one of my proudest moments in competitive Pokemon
Been running it for years despite the rocks weakness. Its a beast. Also it was the best card I pulled in the original card series and then a kid tricked me out of it. So I have a special place in my heart for them.
Moltres also reliably checks Enamorus pretty well
need more adv ou doubles >:(
they were so much fun to watch
I think the lack of knock and other free clicks like that in gen 9 compared to gen 8 has also been super helpful - gen 8 made it super difficult to pivot into moltres against physical mons it should check with flame body if rocks were up and they had knock.
you got me interested in playing gen 3 ou, thanks
I love this account so much
I love moltres design, im so glad they are good in pvp although i use choice specs instead usually
Meanwhile Articuno has to get a haircut and glasses to conceal its identity for people to even pay attention.
Tha Moltres got different, cuz its fhkin splendid
Moltres is such a great wall. And another thing thats happened is that offensively, its gained so many targets that it specializes in incinerating.
Did I hear Nasty Plot Moltres?
This Pokemon fits its sprite so well.
Shoutouts to my man Fake Gameplay, you’re a real one
Moltres’s niche in gen 1 is very worth while and very scary. It’s just inconsistent because fire spin accuracy.
Fire types are just inherently bad in Gen 1 since their STAB coverage is covered by Ice moves, it doesn't resist Ice and has too many common weaknesses. Moltres is scary since it can brute force past some would-be checks (Rhydon and Golem take a lot from Fire Blast despite resistance) and Fire Blast had a 30% burn chance which punishes said checks.
@@ShiningJudgment666 i wouldn't say fire typing is inherently bad in gen 1. it's just kinda a very middle of the pack type. And when half your ou team is gonna be normal type, and you're gonna have at least 1 psychic type, theres only 2 other spots to put a fire type, and generally you'd rather go with a more consistent mon than Moltres.
his refusal to speak on moltres's matchup versus iron mugulus is deafening
Articuno is screwed over by the OHKO Clause.
Man had to wait all these years for the chance to say that the phoenix pokemon has risen from the ashes in competitive.
The Jinothy Cool 'Try not to mention Gen 3 challenge': Impossible
(jk lol great video)
That's a tough challenge.
ITS IN OU HOLY HELL
What I find interesting is that atm both Fire/Flying and Electric/Flying share similar defensive niches and hence Moltres and Zapdos work sorta similarly in Gen 9 OU
Moltres is my lifesaver against those kingambit that always in the ladder. It's also a great check against enamorus.
HD boots in gen 8 was a huge help but knock off was everywhere. In gen 9 Moltres gets to keep boots on.
So not taking 50% on entering the field is a big buff to a very good Mon otherwhise
Stealth rocks have always been stupid btw
Iron Mugulis was defeated
hip hip hoorray!!!!🎉🎉
With how much I hear about stealth rock destroying a lot of two times weakness Pokémon, I would really want to see them add a new type of entry hazzards. Like a torch floor (fire) or spiky weeds (grass) or icebergs (ice) just to let flying, fire, and bug have a little bit of they don’t always have to run heavy duty boots
at this point its a catch 22 any new hazards are just going to make heavy duty boots that more necessary to the point it'll be ok every mon
Aw man. Just as Iron Mugulus gets locked down, his granddad, Old Drink (Poltchageist) pops up. Guess we'll have to get Jimothy to 50k, huh?
I think you forgot to mention how it completely walls one of the most powerful special attackers on OU right now, Enamorus
This mon is OU again from RU and it's a solid physical wall as due to volcarona's ban there is no competition for a flame body pokemon so it can punish physical attacks like kingambit , Great tusk , Dragonite and many more with burn and it can use the advantage of heavy duty boots, it can ignore stealth rocks unless it's knocked off and it is not bad on offense either it can hit decently hard with it's STABS so it's a solid mon in OU
Wake up babe we got a Convergent Polteageist
Dude! Iron Mugulis is REAL!
moltres should get an ability relating to how it heals in magma. like taking damage triggers roost to recover after rocks. or if flare blitz heals instead of recoiling
BEST KANTO BIRB LETS GOOOOO (disclaimer he's my favourite, may or may not be the actual best)
2:22 Another factor that harms Gen 1 Fire-types is that the ONLY way to thaw out a frozen Pokemon is through being hit by a move that can burn - and only Fire moves (apart from Fire Spin) can do that. Since being frozen is essentially a luck-based KO here, no-one would ever want to _help_ their opponent thaw out, and thus no-one uses Fire moves in Gen 1.
It doesn't help that Fire doesn't have any useful targets, since Bugs are pathetically weak and Grass is already hit hard by Ice moves (and, since most Grass-types have the Poison typing too, by Psychic as well); Steel doesn't exist yet, and Ice-types are already mostly weak to Electric (Water/Ice), hit hard by special blows (Cloyster), or bulldozed through by Tauros (Jynx).