The Issue Is: Brian Tyler Cohen and Michael Knowles
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ส.ค. 2022
- Michael Knowles and Brian Tyler Cohen square off in a rematch of political debates. The two discuss FBI raid of Former President Trump's Mar-a-Lago home to whether or not President Biden deserves more credit for recent legislative victories.
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"You don't get an opinion on abortion because you're a man, it's not your body in discussion"
Like bruhh every single man on this planet used to be a helpless baby in the womb, of course it should be about them
Where did he say Michael Knowles didn’t get to have an opinion? He just said it’s none of his business. Kansas women just voted in agreement with Tyler too❤
@@AdNauseamart But my point still stands, it should be his business
@@Krystal-ix7ni what point? you have no point. How in the world “I was a baby once” equals people have the right to bodily autonomy?
I think the most hypocritical part of Michel is that he is all about forcing mothers to give birth like women are just breading stock but when a kid is already out of the womb he magically stops giving a shit and will go against any government programs that would help struggling parents.
Michel is just like any other authoritarian Christian nationalist, they are just in it for the money.
Oh my how transphobic of mr BTC. Did he just assume knowles’s gender? How did he know that knowles didn’t change gender during the show???? Did BTC forget that men can get pregnant.
Your comment goes against nature
Despite how heated each side got on these topics, I do appreciate the 'cooldown' discussion at the end. Asking each person's favorites and sharing a fun or heartwarming story from each debater. Something that is really missing in current days. Is each side being able to have a normal conversation with the other side.
Thanks!
Still doesn’t change the fact that Michael is basically spreading propaganda and lies. Also, his answer to abortion was so broad. I find it difficult to take anyone religious seriously when they want to control women and their body. Also, if Christians are so Pro life, where is that support after your born? At the end, Brian is talking real here and Michael is just appeasing his delusional base.
Agreed.
Can you have a NORMAL conversation with...a crook?
How do know the “crook” has something to say?
A civil conversation needs to have sanity on BOTH sides!
You must not watch much debate if this qualified as "heated".
This debate is so cut it is insufferable. Where can I watch the full debate?
I want to see Ben Shapiro vs Brian Tyler Cohen
6:16 brian: "hold on Michael I let you speak now let me finish"
As he just interrupted Michael just seconds prior.
He’s just using conservative debate tactics against conservatives.
@@kaydenchan7093but when republicans use democrat debate tactics they loose their shit 🤯😂
@@legobricker533 sorry, but Ben Shapiro started to use that strat, and now conservatives can’t take it back.
Funny how the full podcast they only CUT Knowles responses
Shhhhh....we're not supposed to notice those hard cuts.....
why is debate so rare nowadays? Thank you
Leftists don’t want dialogue.
Because Republicans are too scared to debate against democrats. Just mention Sam Seder. They all run away
You should check out PBD podcast. A right wing and a liberal bring constant high level guests and debate is every episode.
Becuz lefties cant
*I would have liked to hear Michaels entire responses that you all cut out for some reason. Makes me think he must have made some good points and the editor didnt want to leave it in.* 🤷🏽♂️
*The host is always great though. Even though he [likely] leans left he is always very friendly and fair to conservatives that come on there and that says alot about his character and I have much respect for him.* 👍🏻
*Btw, could yall start adding these "The Issue Is" videos to the "The Issue Is" playlist again so they are easier to find? Theres so many daily videos posted here that its hard to find these amongst them. Much appreciated.*
Agreed!
Listen to the podcast version… it is uncut.
Although after listening to the podcast I realize that they only cut Knowles never Brian
Perfect way to end a debate I really enjoyed this
its not an issue, its a problem
@Michael I'm not saying that. no where did I say that. try using your brain to actually think about what I said
Isn’t issue and problem the same?
The right wing is saying “he can de-classify whatever”. And it’s NOT true. No President can de-classify the top level top secret Documents withOUT approval by the department involved. Like Energy department must also approve de-classify documents related to top level top secret nuclear weapons information.
2 years later? Super important, huh
You are completely wrong, the president is the only one with authority in the federal govt, those departments act on behalf of his authority. The president of the United States can legally post all nuclear-powered to twitter if he wanted. The fbi, doj, dod etc , have no constitutional authority, it is the president that lets them use his authority.
@Lucas Again procedures don't apply to the president lol, the president doesnt need to get permission from anyone in the federal govt. They literally serve at his pleasure. So when a president talks to a foreign diplomat involving classified materials, is it your position the president has to get permission before he is allowed to speak ?
@Lucas No you wrong saying he submits, implys the president needs permission. Did you really not learn this in civics class , this is something a 5th grader should know. The president is the head of the executive branch, he is the be all end all in the executive branch lol. This is the principal of American democracy, our elected officials make the decisions. There is only two elected people in the federal govt. No unelected person has any authority or say so with the two elected people.
@Lucas Because speaking about classified documents is the same thing as the classified document, I know I spent 6yrs on a submarine lol. A document and a conversation is covered in alot of the same ways, by the law.
So much "BTC owns!!" In this thread. Did nobody see the full debate? There was so much editing. Knowles asked if BTC can define a woman and he asked the moderator to jump in to help him. No, knowles owned this again.
Whatever helps you sleep at night bub. Michael calling the stack of investigations "throwing spaghetti against the wall" doesn't disprove anything. It's actually a pretty common logical fallacy among toddlers. Can't be right so mock the other side and get laughs from the simple minded. You know how Trump could make it difficult for the Dems to do that? Stop giving them so much damn spaghetti!!!
I’m not a fan on how this video is edited. You know there was some more back and forth between questions.
Yeah Brain had a lot of his rebuttals shortened but not enough as to make his points any less clear
@@KingTwistedD Unless I missed it I didnt see a single time that happened to Brian, but it happened multiple times to Michael.
@@levelwithz3779 I’d wager that you are commenting regarding this video the “TV edit” versus the full version
@@KingTwistedD Yea I didn't know there was another version
Great stuff respect to both guests and the host
Could you please uncut some of MK's responses?
Thank you BTC for pointing out inflation is a WORLD-WIDE problem! Does anyone remember when the world was basically shut down due to a PANDEMIC?!?!? How soon we forget!
American foreign policy has worldwide consequences. Nordstream 2 approval by the Biden Administration is one of 2 key reasons Putin invaded Ukraine, the other being Biden saying that "I think what you're going to see is that Russia will be held accountable if it invades. And it depends on what it does. It's one thing if it's a minor incursion and then we end up having a fight about what to do and not do." (Quote gathered from NPR) The Russia-Ukraine war is responsible for a significant amount of inflation, caused by the Biden foreign policy. American energy weakness is also a reason. And American currency devaluation through spending/creating money, which is a bipartisan issue, has been exacerbated under Biden. Oh, and the American Rescue Act, that increased and prolonged unemployment benefit. If you remember when people were getting paid 15 dollars an hour to take unemployment and stay home. Which unemployment exacerbated the early-stage inflation we saw around June 2021.
Someone doesn't look at the policies being enacted huh, one need only look at the policies of the Biden admin to see that the inflation is being exacerbated by Biden and the dems policies in reducing oil making and prematurely "going green" when these "green" products are still in their initial generation on the market, and in combination with the sanctions on Russia without an alternative to the ruskie oil. This subject is way more nuanced that you're making it seem lmao.
Inflation was projected to come to an end by the end of 2021 and the start of 2022, yet it got even worse now.
Some eastern countries have an inflation less than 5%, while majority of the countries that have agreed to enforce the sanctions have inflation of more than 5%, which is quite remarkable. Brian and you appear to conflate this to pretend that Biden didn't do anything, and even so, maybe he should start doing something then.
@@artexjay I don't know if this reply was meant for me, based on the content. TH-cam says it was though. But if you're saying I'm not making inflation appear nuanced when I'm literally talking about multiple causes of inflation, then you obviously don't understand what nuanced means. But the original comment is very simplistic and attributes inflation to COVID-19, which completely ignores the reality of how inflation has been caused and affected by, almost entirely, Biden policy.
@@michaelg.2515 Which policy? And how did it create inflation, exactly? I can't wait for your explanation.
@@randibgood I named it in the comment. The American Rescue Plan Act of 2021, HR 1319 introduced by Representative John Yarmuth. I named the unemployment benefit inside of that legislation. You pay people to stay home, you get inflation because there are less jobs being filled and more money being pumped into the economy. I can name more policies and EOs by the Biden Admin too. Including two day one executive orders that directly affected the oil industry (which gasoline and oil are necessary for transportation, food production, and international shipping), those being the cancellation of the Keystone XL pipeline, which would be nearing completion sometime soon had it not been cancelled. And, I'll just quote the other one, "proposing new regulations to establish comprehensive standards of performance and emission guidelines for methane and volatile organic compound emissions from existing operations in the oil and gas sector, including the exploration and production, transmission, processing, and storage segments." If you make an oil company follow more regulations, they become less efficient, just by definition. Oh, there are also numerous instances of the administration not allowing or revoking permits for oil drilling/surveying/etc. Oh!!! Let's not forget this EO too! "Pursuant to section 12(a) of the Outer Continental Shelf Lands Act, 43 U.S.C. 1341(a), Executive Order 13754 and the Presidential Memorandum of December 20, 2016, are hereby reinstated in their original form, thereby restoring the original withdrawal of certain offshore areas in Arctic waters and the Bering Sea from oil and gas drilling." So now the Biden Administration is restricting supply, basic economics means that to meet demand price will rise. SO just by executive orders, we see necessities increasing in price because cost of business operation and restricted supply. These EOs are publicly available on the federal register, a government-operated website. These EOs fall under 'Executive Order 13990 of January 20, 2021.'
Okay so let's recap. You pass a bill that pays people MORE money and EXTENDS the time period they can stay home and collect unemployment because of COVID-19 (vaccines were becoming available, and would be available before this extension ended). Going to work becomes more expensive, because you have to pay more in gas money, and unemployment benefit could be more advantageous as you would make 15 an hour from unemployment benefit (benefit divided by 40 hours a week/80 hours for 2 weeks). Less work throughout the economy means less products in the economy. Less products and more money in the economy (UE benefit, printing, stimulus checks) means products will naturally rise in price to fit demand and new money supply (basic economics), also called inflation. Higher fuel prices exacerbate this, as I mentioned getting to work is more expensive, cost of goods is more expensive because trucks/airplanes require fuel, and the prices are further increased through weak foreign policy (green-lighting Nordstream 2, his initial minor incursion comment) which resulted in the Russia-Ukraine war (Zelenskyy expressed the same sentiment) and support for Ukraine means higher gas prices if we buy from Russia.
The real question is: who is the big guy and is it only a 10 percent cut
It's hard to trust conversations/debates like this when things are chopped up and edited. It's why people like Rogan and other podcasters with longform, uncut discussions have gained so much popularity.
We have no idea what was cut out here.
Brian kept interrupting yet barking at Michael for butting in. Read the room Brian.
Is this the full debate or was there a cut?
Seems edited... some answers cut out
The fact that Democrats control the White House and both houses of Congress and yet this Cohen guy cannot control his angry emotions while Michael remains calm throughout the entire video tells me everything I need to know about the American left wing.
U clearly dnt understand why he is, understandably upset. Woman can't make decisions for their own bodies, albeit, rape/incest, ectopic pregnancy. & Michael does nothing but give a sinister smile & talk ab not killing babies that aren't developed yet. Let's not worry ab the mother of the childs health, "its all ab getting back at them women who decided to have sex" gtfoh...
If you think the left wing is bad, you should check out the right wing some time.. (shudder)
Republican fantasy.Without the woman there is no baby.The woman creates the baby,makes the baby,carries the baby,she owns the baby.The creator owner is the only one who makes the decision about the baby.
@@Lou2centsthere no reason to abort if the featus is developing fine
@@Lou2cents they don’t want a child yet have unprotected sex? Well maybe they should have the government tell on them what to do. LMAO
Micheal won this one.
In what delusion?? Lmao 🤣
@@rebeccacannabidragonhogan9545 Michael didn't just win, he destroyed him.
@@axetune Keep telling yourselves that 🤣🤣🤣
@@rebeccacannabidragonhogan9545 I don't need to keep telling myself that but that is what happened. Cope harder. I mean that toddler in glasses tried to bring up some meaningless tropes of the past in effort to dodge the disaster that Joe Biden is overseeing today.
@@rebeccacannabidragonhogan9545 keep living in a false reality 😂
That was a good exchange. But you can tell that Knowles has done a lot more research whereas Cohen mostly repeats the party talking points.
He thinks theres a big right wing media machine 🤣. I died.
He doesn't think for himself.
He’s a mouthpiece for the Biden admin
@@plastifiedmetal5682 You haven't heard of Fox News, OAN, Crowder, Poole, The Daily Wire, The Blaze, Matt Walsh, Ben Shapiro...
@@bt9704 You haven't heard of ABC, CBC, BBC, CNN, the Guardian, Vice, Buzzfeed or Now This News - all promoting the communist fascist agenda of 'you will own nothing and be happy'.
Thanks for this debate. I appreciate these two being willing and able to defend their opposite opinions without resorting to force. It made clear the completely different understanding of "facts" on the two sides of these issues. This is the damage done by our utterly dishonest media and people too easily giving in to confirmation bias. But a debate like this exposes the nature of the conflict for those of us willing to be serious about fact-checking.
I like how Michael wins arguments simply by not getting angry.
Yeah because why win an argument on substantial facts when you can just be an NPC
@@dawn2069 how was he being an NPC? What arguments did the other side make? How were Michael's wrong? Do you really not understand the problem with leftism?
you can see the anger in his face
@@leonredd in Michael's? How? Also, that's not an argument for why he won the debate.
@@thirdmonkeyent_llc look we can go all day I’m not going to debate who was better than the other
Cohen's arguments mostly consisted of "Conservatives are hypocrites!" and "If a Democrat did this, you'd be outraged!" His views on abortion, in particular, are reductionist and ignorant.
If the shoe fits.... Conservatives support cops, as long as they are on their side. Conservatives support small government, as long as all the states agree with them. Conservatives protect your rights, except religious freedom, free speech used against them, freedom of the press if the press are mean to them etc etc
Also his views on abortion are correct. Conservatives love to wave the dead babies flag but while red states try to figure out how to prosecute those who legally travel out of state to get abortions, they don't do anything to fix the FACT that we have one of the highest infant mortality rates in the world. We have the prenatal system of a third world country but at least we can force women to die on the table to preserve the sanctity of life. How messed up is your worldview that you are more concerned with the hour of birth than the months of expensive and flawed medical care before and after?
@@mattadams7558 We're all inclined to be selective with what we consider rights and who we deem worthy of support. No one has a monopoly on virtue. Leftists are no fans of free speech that criticizes them. Leftists want to defund cops except those who offer emotional testimony on the Jan. 6th committee...and on and on. We can play this game ad nauseam.
@@mattadams7558 As for your second point, clearly we do have a higher-than-average and higher-than-acceptable infant mortality rate, but your either/or model mindset is irrational. Why can't we address both infant mortality and the evil of abortion?
You do raise the stale pro-choice platitude that suggests pro-lifers are only "pro-birth." I'm guessing you're not familiar with the vast resources and efforts of pro-life pregnancy centers, churches, etc, for the support and benefit of women who choose not to abort their babies.
@@benwolk2028 Defund the Police is the most overused arrow in the republican quiver. It's a catchphrase, like "Lock them Up", and I'm hoping your side means that as metaphorically as DtP is meant. The leaders of the DtP movement weren't trying to eradicate the police force or punish them for their, at times, startling brutality. They were saying take some of the money that police in bumfrick nowhere are using to buy APC's and use it to pay for mental health professionals who can help them defuse situations they aren't prepared for so they don't show up on TV every night kicking and punching Down Syndrome sufferers.
Girly voice guy is so emotional
Main news channels should bring more of these guys in instead of their usual puppet corespondents.
Micheal never answered the ? About show me a example of the Republicans getting us out of a recession?
Recession - Obama's second term. No recession - Trump's first term.
Why are you so committed to the idea "Democrat good, Republican bad" without having the courage to explore that idea that comes from nowhere than social pressure?
Oh, I think I just answered my question. You would need to the courage to criticize your own ideas.
@@ajb7786 The recession began in 2008, and by the time Obama left office, it was over. Record unemployment under 45, record employment under Biden, seems pretty cut and dry.
@@skyeiv8471 Only if you have zero nuance and count the covid lockdown as "Trump unemployment" and then count the reopening of existing jobs as "Biden job creation"
...For somebody smug enough to say "seems pretty cut and dry," that's a hell of a set of mental gymnastics
@@nugget5090 Oh, so now you care about nuance? The previous administration's response and policies created the current economic conditions, thank goodness we have infrastructure being worked on now.
@@skyeiv8471 So it was Trump and his administration who were pushing to shut the country down? I think not.
And nobody has forgotten the thriving economy and $2 gas prices under him yet
Brian is such a joke. He brought up the classification of the documents and then said it didn’t matter because they were “dangerous”. “There’s a right wing media machine”. Who in earth is that!? Lol 95% of the media is left. What planet does this guy live on?
95% of the media is left?
Any source to back that claim or do u count e.g. Fox news as left media 😂?
The one fellow with all the words could interrupt every time, but the one who attempted to get a point across without interrupting, was not allowed to finish a point re abortions. Sorry, but the debate reminded me of how ridiculous many of them are.
Super nice to hear both sides! Great video
Nah BTC was coherent, the radical far-right guy was just repeating a Faux News comment section or Sucker Tardson's talking points.
However, I applaud BTC for trying but you could tell it wasn't going to be a coherent articulated debate as soon as the far-right guy started spewing blatant lies. I don't believe in talking to the other side anymore, they're too far gone. Right now, as we speak, they're gathering outside the FBI with guns, and it's because of lies, hateful rhetoric and conspiracies like the ones this far-right guy is spewing. We can't afford a Confederacy 2.0 and I don't believe in negotiating with terrorists. China and Russia are counting on it.
We urgently need to tackle this issue before it's too late. We're no longer an Union and I strongly support letting fascist GOP leaders, MAGAts and the Qult go peacefully and form an Union on their own, with their poor red states and they can take the radical SCOTUS with them. And Blue states need to stop giving money to them and form their own Union, remember if CA was a country it wouldn't be the 5th richest in the world. So let's discuss how we safely let far-right traitors go before things get worse...I don't want to discuss books or movies with them, it's too late.
@@jay4you853 I do not disagree
@@jay4you853 Lol. Obviously live in a delusion.
@@jay4you853 Brian lost, deal with it.
Newsflash, inflation is going down
Wow thank so much. Worst to less worse. Just like how you tried to take credit for recouping jobs back to pre-COVID levels.
Recession goes BURRRRRR
Did he really say he has accomplished more than any other President??????
Wow….🤡
Tyler "cohen" sure does have a way of "subverting" the truth
Subverting ......or breaking it down?
@@charlesljones2454 I mean subverting u little fanboy
Okay Mr. Clean
@@charlesljones2454 well when he talks about global inflation he sure is lying there. America exports its inflation because it is the global reserve currency. Every central bank HAS to have dollars. Do the math, its not hard.
The world economy depends on the American Economy. I was trying to figure out how this guy is considered an intellectual and then I remember he preaches to left wing idiots that can't describe their own gender
Brian beat that man like he stole something... Micheal Knowles needs to watch some tape and know when to fold em.. My goodness man, you have to recognize when you go from defending the cause to destroying yourself... 🤨🤡🤷♂⚖
Uhhh Brian lost so badly it wasn’t even funny
@@trayvonparker4772 I get it.. Its national troll day.. good job there bud.. Happy hunting!
By constantly cutting Michael off, getting all emotional, and then dodging the facts, stating that “all democratic presidents did a better job with the economy” ?
@@trayvonparker4772 Your boy Michael was on the ropes before he even saw Brian commin....saved by the bell. Otherwise woulda been sent home in the metaphorical body bag.
@@michaelyeh6662 You should listen again.. as an independent... That was an L for Michael and he cut Brian off just as much.. He also tried to pull in some tangential points that didn't connect to the topic. Even if I chose a side, Michael took an "L" ...
One must give him credit for telling the truth at least once: "Only the mob takes the fifth..."
You mean hellary 😂
you mean Democrats
@Lucas oh the ignorance
Well, turns out the DOJ "is" the mob.
So you mean all of Clinton’s staff?
“People person” 😂 Anyone who doesn’t like animals, immediate 🚩
I like both
Trump is guilty.
Yeah, right!
No shit! Everything we saw and heard during trumps presidency has been confirmed by trumps inner circle in the Jan 6 hearings.
And the Steele dossier was real... psh
@@rosejack7738 you dont care that hes broken a lot of laws?
Someone should explain to Michael what a cigar is!😂🤣😂🤣😂
Someone should tell Brian that Mexican conservatives exist 🤯
Bryan took another L
Knowles swept the floor with this weak beta npc. what tha?
Good job
I love how the most famous progressive commentators are people you’ve never heard of
Brian has a massive following. Just because you don't know doesn't mean other don't either.
@@Jonuh yeah but everyone knows Ben Shapiro and he’s right wing. Nobody on the left in his position is as famous. That’s my point.
@@zachSandler2 The idea that progressivism has become an umbrella term for woke and mentally insane people has not helped with that, but you can google some up and get interested if that's your thing.
@@zachSandler2 Maybe conservatives should expand their awareness
@@fornax5798 I do admit that that is true. I have respect for sensible liberals, just not the woke or mentally insane ones.
Why the hell do they keep cutting parts.
Agreed!
Bodily autonomy? The woman CHOSE to have sex - that's bodily autonomy.
Sure. ESP when you’re getting abused and raped. They “chose” that too? FO
💯%"BTC"Always!🙌🏿
🤡Michael"45'er"..🤪
🗽"212"🗽🖤🙋🏿
Lol. Delusional
Looks like some happy editing going on too
I love Michael Knowles. He had that moron all twisted up and actually yelling, while Michael Remained cool as a cucumber. So awesome
Not true. Even if that were case, it doesn’t changed the fact that Michael Knowles lied in this debate like he always he does. Debating with Michael is just wasting time.
@@MissJade805 Lol. Not even close.
@@MissJade805what did he lie about…
That's because he knows he can just fall back on more lies and then ignore the facts when they come out, it must be easy propping up right wing talking points
@@bt9704 projection.
that’s how every debate should end haha we get too upset I think about political differences
Great debate. I really like both of these gentlemen.
Knowles lies, a lot, right out of the gate.
Name one lie
@@robrob7011 BTC was correct about the classification information. They know that. He posed a good question: if this were any democratic president, the republicans would be losing their minds. Can't deny that.
And Brian Tyler Cohen brought his shows title, and gave no lies! But Knowles did lie about the ability for the president to declassify whatever document he wants without the permission of others!
@@robrob7011 he lied about the president’s ability to declassify documents without others permission!
Sawyer, that's not a lie.
Clay is so Karen.
Someone at some point wrote that Knowles' resting smile is like a South Park character and I can't unsee it.
Lol. So true. He has such a vacant expression all the time. No one upstairs to control that arrogant and pretentious face of his.
Such a fake smile lol
“They issued the warrant on a Friday the search happened on a Monday”
Wow I guess the FBI care more about their weekends than they do about getting back nuclear documents 😂
They do and there are procedures for everything. No worries they will get all the stolen information back.
@@apbpa5042 HE HAS NUCLEAR CODES!! BUT HOLD ON I HAVE A BBQ SATURDAY!!
@@shawnfinnegan64 Gosh dang, that just makes those damn FBI agents sooooo much more in the wrong as compared to the reason why they had to go get the damn secret documents in the first place, but yea, let's blame the side he stole it from.
Don't blame the perpetrator, blame the cops
Don't blame the insurrectionists, blame ANTIFA 🙄
Maybe on that weekend the EffBeeEye had to attend one of their "Patriot Front" events where they pretend to be a 'far-right' group but everyone sees their 'glow'. 😄
Or perhaps they were busy trying to set up another kidnapping to try to frame a right winger again.
Boy that hopelessly devoted song is so appropriate for guys like Michael Knowles dedicated to Donald Trump
This is edited to hell.
Brian's statement on limited (!?) government and on equal rights was very powerful!
The Bible - and what it says about abortion - is more in tune with Roe v. Wade than the conservative ideology that took that right away from women. There is no use of the word or concept as abortion in the Bible. Abortion, infanticide, and child abandonment were permitted under Roman law. The Bible considered unborn and even before consummation that the human spirit exists. As such there weren't any differences to GOD between an embryo and a full-grown human. Women who were pregnant were protected from attack by Judaean Law. And if women had miscarriages or stillbirths - the belief in life would allow GOD to help relieve their grief. In effect - the sanctity of pregnancy was between the woman, her physician, AND GOD. The State was not interfering unless the woman and unborn child is directly harmed by violence. That is pretty close to what things were under Roe v. Wade. I think Christians who really understand the Bible should take the lead in restoring the Roe v. Wade type of Legislation in the United States. What is happening in individual States is leading to dark times for both women and men. Arguing that fetuses, embryos, and zygotes as being different - when they all lead to babies - is NOT a winning solution or logical or reasoned argument as to why abortion should be legal. Biblically this is GOD's domain and NOT THE STATES.
Exactly!!! Literally, if you don’t want it don’t get it. You lose NOTHING!
Not really, his comments were extremely ignorant especially since the overturning of Roe v Wade was predicated on the fact that the court doesn't have jurisdiction to rule on it thus making the initial ruling null and void, kicking the issue back to the states so the localities and the people in those localities can decide.
That's limited government, allowing the localities and not the Fed to decide.
*if you assume his premise that developing babies are morally worthless babies
@@artexjay What if the majority of constituents in a gerrymandered state support women having access to abortion, and their state legislature bans it?
Brian sets aside the law and goes immediately into an anecdotal argument. Brian has a real appeal to authority complex
No he doesn't.
@@garystahler9112 sure (said sarcastically)
@@j.r.9879 Micheal won.
It’s a poor technique…Ben Shapiro would have been more ruthless.
@@garystahler9112 🤭 Win? Lose? What on earth are you talking about? This is just two bobbleheads talking at each other for viewers' entertainment. Winning here means as much as winning a road rage fight. 😂
Win, as usual between these two, goes to Knowles.
No way .....btc smoked him.
What?? Not even close. Know he’s has a better delivery but points going to Bryan
@@charlesljones2454 how?
@@chez_calabrese what points and why?
Knowles destroyed that soy toddler.
Can’t trust either of these ideologues.
Lol I love Knowles just having a face that says: “come at me, c’mon, I’ve prepared for this.”
And then getting his a** handed to him by BTC.ahhh another conservative opinionist slaughtered in an epic debate where a progressive is once again victorious.
He just spits his own opinion. Brian speaks facts.
@@alexyoungberg5232 it’s literally the complete opposite lmfAo
@@shawnfinnegan64 no. It's literally not.
@@alexyoungberg5232 yes it literally is.
I couldn't even listen to this anymore. Knowles lost me when he said it was easy to put a child up for adoption when there are thousands of children up for adoption right now. And he says there are "36 people for every one baby trying to adopt" That is a baldfaed lie.
I think he just makes stuff up.
The Bible - and what it says about abortion - is more in tune with Roe v. Wade than the conservative ideology that took that right away from women. There is no use of the word or concept as abortion in the Bible. Abortion, infanticide, and child abandonment were permitted under Roman law. The Bible considered unborn and even before consummation that the human spirit exists. As such there weren't any differences to GOD between an embryo and a full-grown human. Women who were pregnant were protected from attack by Judaean Law. And if women had miscarriages or stillbirths - the belief in life would allow GOD to help relieve their grief. In effect - the sanctity of pregnancy was between the woman, her physician, AND GOD. The State was not interfering unless the woman and unborn child is directly harmed by violence. That is pretty close to what things were under Roe v. Wade. I think Christians who really understand the Bible should take the lead in restoring the Roe v. Wade type of Legislation in the United States. What is happening in individual States is leading to dark times for both women and men. Arguing that fetuses, embryos, and zygotes as being different - when they all lead to babies - is NOT a winning solution or logical or reasoned argument as to why abortion should be legal. Biblically this is GOD's domain and NOT THE STATES.
Lol. You ever adopt a child? VERY difficult process. VERY costly. How do you know people out there DO want to adopt but just can't financially? And I'm not talking about caring for the child. I'm talking about getting the child.
@@heathjames7154
An easy Google search will show he's not.
You're conflating adoption of newborn babies with adoption of older children.
Gotta love Michael, man. Witty, calm, and always injecting levity while making a point.
He’s literally just spreading lies
@@brycekamin like what? Biden lies. Newsom lies. Clintons lie. Both Cuomos lie. Tons of Democrats spread lies. Joe/Kamala say the border is secure. (2M+ illegal crossings this year so far-an all-time record.) Not long ago Biden said there was 0% inflation. (Yet we see 40-year highs) He said a rising China is good for the USA while his son made multi-million-dollar deals peddling his name with 10% for Joe and he lied about not knowing anything about it. Democrats have questioned every election as "stolen" etc. at least since Bush II. LBJ verifiably stole his senate seat. Stacey Abrams still says her election was stolen. And Dems can't define what a woman is and say a little boy is a little girl. There's a myriad of disconnects from reality among the Dems as there are among Republicans. Michael didn't take an unreasonable position here to me whether or not anyone chooses to believe it.
@@Napierius777 this has nothing to do with what I said but okay lmao
@@brycekamin and what you said didn't specify one thing. I see no lies in the point of view Knowles put forward. You can disagree with his view but you can't say anything he said was a lie. I disagree with much of what BTC said but I don't think he lied either that I can tell.
@@Napierius777 I just don’t see how u think he’s witty when he does is lie and say a bunch of random bs. He’s a delusional clown
Two obligations when in a discussion: don't ramble: be succinct. Don't interrupt, or STFU.
Legal stuff aside? Hmm.. No let's focus on the legal stuff since this is dealing with a "legal matter".
Dude is a spin doctor. I'll admit he is good but very wrong. Just good at spin
Love Michael ❤❤❤
Where's the GONG? Get michael outta the AIR WAVES!
YOUR SWAMP !
Brian and Michael are a riot. Would love to see those two get to know each other personally. I think they could solve humanity's problems if they got together.
@1:16 - cue fake smile 🤣
Michael Knowles destroyed this kid once again well done👏🏻
I know. It's crazy how many people are saying Brian won. I feel like we weren't even watching the same video.
@Lucas Dude if your going with the cognitive dissonance card maybe its because you are having it?
@Lucas You are obviously misinformed because you didn’t even watch the whole debate🤦🏻♂️🤣
@@thecasualpodcast4496 come on republican. The worst thing you can say is someone else is misinformed. I mean.... you're a republican.
It's not about destroying him man! We as conservatives need to stop that stuff. I love Michael and of course he's correct, I doubt Brian has watched an abortion. It's not just about being right all the time. How about we have some compassion on this young generation? Older folks haven't really done anything to keep the school system from getting so bad haven't they? They just assumed all was alright. How about we look at ourselves first before destroying everyone else.
*Bryan Tyler Cohen talked about bodily autonomy yet he was all in favor of V mandates when he and Michael were on the show last time.*
Biggest hypocrite
Apples and oranges 🙄
@@wet-read *We are on the correct side of history for both issues. Forcing someone to take an experimenal V is morally reprehensible. And we want to protect the lives of innocent babies in the womb.*
@@wet-read *The future will look back on the Dems in this time period and judge them the same way we look back and judge the Dems for slvery and Jim Crow etc.*
@@wet-read *Dems are responsible for tons of ⚰ during the course of slvry but they are responsible for even more ⚰ these days. Way way more.*
So sick and tired of men telling me what I can and cannot do with my body.
Do whatever you want with the body just don't kill the baby
@@WL1264 According to the 14th Amendment, you have to be born in order to have rights.
@@skyeiv8471 so a baby just a second before birth technically can be aborted?
@@WL1264 Technically, sure, but how often does/would that happen? Almost all abortions occur before the second trimester, so what's your argument pertaining to that?
Nobody has the right to interfere between you and medical personnel in such matters. Having to leave your state to get an abortion is insanity in the "free world". People need to literally fight to keep government and other busybodies out of such stuff.
It is not her body. It is a unique body that is growing inside of a her.
Nobody cares about a parasite, read the 14th Amendment.
@@skyeiv8471 A parasite is a foreign organism that uses the body as a host. As the unborn child is of the same species, it is not a parasite.
Brian destroyed the Fascist. He didn't mention gender, the Fascist did. Brian said "body". The Fascist can't discern the difference. Shock alert!
The problem with his argument is, “just don’t do it” yet it’s the democrats that are trying to make these things law.
@@mickeynelson6263 What exactly are the Democrats trying to make law? Equality for all humans? If so, what exactly is wrong with that?
How is he a fascist
@@sebg5145 Because Ter Joe disagrees with him. This is what the left does when they have people challenge their BS, they shut them down with words like that.
Define “Fascist” communist
Michael, most respect Love you man.
"Right wing media machine", even he can't believe that.
Supporting Trumps gotta be real awkward now lol
Cannot be called a debate when Brian speaks the truth faced by a debator telling lies.
Exactly!
That's all Knowles does. Lies while talking over the other person. I paused the video while scrolling through comments 5 minutes in. He just got finished saying that as the president, the angry mango had the power to declassify whenever he wanted to. Blatant lie. I know there will be more. That's the M.O. at the Wire-Lie Loudly.
State the lies
Yeah, it cannot be called a debate if liberals are out of their minds.
@@michaeljohndadd545 You've got that backwards. We aren't the ones who prefer "alternative facts". That's all on y'all!
The guy in the glasses interrupted 26 times and the other guy interrupted 3 times
Because Michael smiles and deflects so he doesn't have to interrupt and Brian has a very abrasive personality.
@@windandcloudshadow158 such a WEAK response. Try again.
@@carlosmunoz5761 Go cry somewhere else.
@@windandcloudshadow158 again, very weak response. How about point out where exactly each was right/wrong vs accusing someone of 'crying' over a political debate.
@@carlosmunoz5761 I've been through this already find my other posts and cry elsewhere young one.
The abortion debate is a non starter.
Abortion is wrong.
Brian is going to get in trouble on the abortion argument.
I don't know if you already have kids but if you don't, and you're a woman who wants kids, more than likely you won't continue an unhealthy pregnancy determined by an early problematic diagnosis that will also put you at risk for secondary infertility. If any woman is in such an unfortunate situation, you, me nor anyone else is in a position to make a decision for that woman, for her health and for her family. If she made a wrong decision it's between her and her Creator.
It’s not everywhere. No inflation in Japan, Malaysia, Saudi Arabia. Should I go on?
wow Michael lol not your best work
Michael has his rhetoric nicely rehearsed however it anyone were to fact check the contents of this debate Bryan won hands down
Exactly. Michael is an actor who performs well... but his script is absurd.
BTC bringing the heat! ☄️☄️☄️🔥🔥🔥
That is not true 99% happen in the first trimester.
Omgosh! This was so good. BTC KNOWS his shit, guys. You just got another subscriber. I'm in!!
Love it!!! When rationale makes sense!!
He said nothing that made sense or had any substance to it. You are just committed to the morally and intellectually lazy idea "Democrat good, Republican bad" and lack the courage to challenge your own prejudices.
Nothing screams ideological possession and intellectual dishonesty like this argument: All of the countries that employed similar Covid and post-Covid economic policies as the Biden administration are experiencing the same out of control inflation. So, obviously, Biden's policies aren't what caused all of this unnecessary inflation!
@@ajb7786 Can you point me in the direction to what has caused this world’s inflation, and what could have been done to stop it from happening?
@@sawyer7191 An economics 101 class? Anytime an economy is shut down, when it reopens there is always going to be supply chain issues and inflation. One of the biggest causes this time in particular, has to do with the oil companies and during the pandemic they were paying up to $40 a barrel for people to take the crude oil they had no market for. No demand, but plenty of supply. When they were having to pay people to take it, instead of being paid for it, it was a loss for their stockholders. Their stockholders demanded they get the profit back from the pandemic era, so the resorted to gouging. Price of fuel makes everything more expensive. Then there were a ton of extra and higher storage costs at the railyards. 60 Minutes did a great special on the whole supply chain deal. Highly recommend.
@@randibgood Thank you Randy! and I totally agree, as is a standard expectation from stockholders and company agreements. I just don’t know what people expected. I think the frustration is how it “snuck up“ on people because they saw companies lowering processes to prevent going out of business while they may have been in a financially positive situation during a pandemic.
Okay I understand why I have never heard of the Republican creep show who is trying to out smart BTC! I would not of paid any attention to him for 5 seconds!
Knowles straight dodges first question not credible
A little boy was kick out of school last week because his parents are gay.
Republicans are already talking about it.
link pliz
Brian speaks in terms of law, the other guy speaks in opinions. Loved Brian’s comment on how he felt like he was in a Fox News thread😂
Cohen speaks in terms of strict prejudice. He makes conclusions before he's run the experiments and then lives in desperation to block out any reality that will threaten those preconceived notions. He's a coward and a liar, and it's pathetic that he needs to constantly lie to himself in order not to hate himself. Ironically, it's that constant self-deceit that makes him hate himself so much.
Not to mention Michael just absolutely said stuff that was blatantly not true. And as a typical republican talking head, during a debate they do the same tactic, they throw out fifty falsehoods as fast as they can, knowing it takes far longer to debunk a lie then it does to blurt it out. So you have Brian now an impossible task of trying to go through all the lies he spouted in a short time, and making that outcome a forgone conclusion, Brian will only get through a couple as Michael also talks over him, and interrupts his time. And unfortunately people who are only getting their news from FOX, or far right sources live in this echo chamber and don't realize how they are being manipulated in the believing a criminal like Trump somehow is an angel, and all the numerous audio tapes he has been caught breaking countless laws, his own appointed republican head of the FBI is clearly seeing something so bad that even he signed off on the raid on Trump's resort, which could mean Trump was selling nuke technology to the Saudis. Which would completely explain why not only did Trump just get a nice 100 million bonus for the Saudi's last minute gold tournament at his resort. Which Trump took in a cool 100 million from. But also Trump's son just got given 2 billion dollars from the same Saudi's, just given it without any reasons given, other then it is a 'business loan' that has no payback structure, etc. Just given for free apparently and you can bet they will never pay it back, because it is a bribe and any reasonable person would have the brains to realize this. Only his cult would believe that this is normal, for the Saudi's to give ex presidents with no previous business ties 2.1 Billion dollars out of the blue, just around the time nuclear secrets were recovered from Trump's home, and remember what Trump tried to do as one of his first acts, he tried to get the nuclear secrets on how to build nukes, etc, and give them to the Saudi's, which the Pentagon said "NO", and had to stop him muitiple time from doing this.
You literally can't make this stuff up, and yet this is the times we live in because one side of the political spectrum has lost their mind and are now in a giant cult lead by a leader who said that his followers(cult) wouldn't care if he shot someone in the middle of times square. And he is right, they will protect him even as he lies, and commits treason against the country... Because they literally don't care, he is a God to them, and they worship him above God, and they put Trump above Jesus, despite calling themselves Christians. Everyone Trump does is the opposite of Jesus, and you don't see these MAGA cultists remembering what Jesus said, but they sure know a good deal of what Trump garbage is being put into their brains by their preachers, and by their republican leaders, as well as FOX, NewsMaxx, Breitbart, Alex Jones, etc, all just regurgitating everything they are told to, like good little cultists...
It is sad times we are living in watching the fact that one side of the isle has no bottom to how low they are willing to sink to worship this man...
@@Arrogan28 buddy nobody is reading all of that 💀
His feelings are not relevant when he fails to indicate facts and makes exaggerated statements which are not relevant to the issue. Clearly, he adheres to that if a lie is said often enough people will feel it’s true.
If there was danger he would have never left the white house with those docs. Try LOGIC
Democrats: Let’s get loud, cut off the other person, and talk about nothing. 😂
There’s a reason Michael Knowles was so calm and smiling, facts are on his side.
LOCK HIM UP LOCK HIM UP a little ironic don't you think....I love a good debate!
The Presidential Records Act?
What are you confused about?
Brian Tyler Cohen put Knowles in his Fox News place. And very tactfully.
No he didn't he just went with the low level I.q argument, which is to appeal to emotion.
@@jasonthomas9319 You're confused. Knowles is the one on the reich-side. As well as on the right of your screen.
Brian wins again.
He never says much, except for fomenting hate and division. Even when he does talk, it is always lies
I hope you're talking about btc
Knowles has a smarmy smile.
Confident smile
Brian wins easily!
I disagree 😊
@@Catch21Manila Derpy derp
@@godamid4889 I don't know what that means 😃
Lmfao
Michael of course went with the ol' GOP defense - interrupt whenever possible. Brian's cancer joke was spot on describing the GOP constant complaining.
U guys defended Joe Bidens Afghan pull out.
You've got that part backwards. The Dems always respond to anything by first saying something about the group or the oerson. They NEVER START WITH SN EXPLANATION until they have mischaracterizrd personalized and usually slandered the opposing side.
That cracked me up!🤣