The Abbasid Revolution // Overthrow of the Umayyad Caliphate (717-750)
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Why don't you guys who are in on these projects make one TH-cam channel for these video projects?
Mate. There is only 18 on the play list. Plz add/help
Al-Tabari is not to be trusted 100%. He himself mentioned that he didn't check his sources, he just wrote down everything he heard. His writings are more an encyclopedia of the rumors and facts at the time of al-Tabari's time.
YOU ARE MISLEADING THE VIEWERS! THE UMAYYAD''S WERE SECULAR!
FACT: The Umayyad Caliphs were considered too secular by some of their Muslim subjects.[9] Christians, who still constituted a majority of the Caliphate's population, and Jews were allowed to practice their own religion but had to pay a head tax (the jizya) from which Muslims were exempt.[10] There was, however, the Muslim-only zakat tax, which was earmarked explicitly for various welfare progammes.[10][11]
Muawiya's wife Maysum (Yazid's mother) was also a Christian. Relations between the caliphate's Muslim and Christian subjects were stable in this time.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umayyad_Caliphate
Sonia Mota - The Umayyads were not secular. They were Muslim theocrats. The fact that some hardliners thought they were “too secular” does not mean they were totally secular. It means that hardliners thought they were not religious enough. They were still religious though.
Everybody in the Project revolution :
Making videos 8 to 22 minutes long
This guy:
Heyyy what about 48 minutes ?
what is the project revolution?
@@Alejandro-te2nt Cooperation between history channels. They all made videos about some revolution. He should have a link to the playlist of all the videos.
@@rudolfnosek1748 I hoped it would be 25-30 minutes long, but that wasn't possible. Too big of a subject.
@@HistoryTime I am not complaining I just had on the playlist and I was listening to the videos but then I realized that this Abbasid topic is a little bit longer than 10 minutes. When I looked and saw the length of the video I just started laughing.
@Backflip Wheelie hahahahaha
Fascinating video, love the amount of Geo-political detail
Thanks man looking forward to getting really stuck in to the other videos in the playlist!
tell all your buddys the same
Epimetheus hi brother❤️
Please do a video about Ottoman Empire☺️
@@zacharycater9470 do you seriously think anyone would believe that?
@@bgfcbdfbgdsfvasdf3029 i am sure you cant deliver or take a punch kid
I was initially annoyed not to do this Revolution but I'm glad you did it - love the depth and length!
Thanks man! Appreciate that. This one was a beast to make. Took a good deal longer than anticipated as I learned more about the complexity of the situation. Still had to cut out quite a bit! The great thing about our little corner of TH-cam is that we can all do the same topics and bring something different and unique to the table due to how different all of our channels are. Looking forward to watching your video later on! Atatürk is a really interesting topic.
Just Want to laugh 😂 hard if Ataturk was man of science Turkey could have become like Japan or better yet like Germany after world war 1. It is fallacy for him to use Science in his Quotes because nothing Scientific contribution he brought to Turkey.
As an Indian (sub continent) I take pride after eight hundred years of islamic occupation bloodshed enslavement religious vandalism jizya forced conversions
Beheading the Sikh Guru Tegh Bahadur tortured and kil for refusing to take shadaha etc
Elite Hindu women chose to walk into the fire 🔥 rather than be captured and made into sxx slaves like javeria saffyia Maryam etc
And today we have two hundred million muslims under Hindu rule
Largest caliphate history of Islam
Two hundred million muslims under Hindu rule???? WOW 😲
Once again, you've outdone yourself with this video. An incredibly detailed video.
Thanks Barris! Appreciate it. Looking forward to delving into all the other videos later on!
@@HistoryTime I hope you enjoy my video! No way as detailed as yours though.
Very poor quality video.
Useless and meaningless pictures and clips shown throughout the video. Even the maps being used are static and just traversed through to shown an event.
@@basitkhan9819 what is your problem mate?
Fantastic video! Fun fact: the Umayyads once had to deal with a rebellion from an army they sent to deal with a rebellion - namely, the Peacock Army of Al-Hajjaj. The revolt was due to a mixture of Kharijite religio-political ideas and general disgruntelment.
The amount of revolts the Umayyad incurred during their rule (from the Berbers, the Khawarij, the Shi'a and so on) and the underwhelming responses often betray the success that the Umayyads usually held when fighting exterior foes. Through the early sections of the Umayyad period, the Caliphate had more or less kept Byzantium on the defensive, conquered Iberia, Ifriqiya, the Berber tribes of the Maghreb, raided the Nubians, pushed into the Indus, pushed into the Kwarezm, more or less defeated the Khazars, managed to spread its naval capacity to the level that exceeded most powers at the time, including the Byzantines. However, the Umayyad often had great issues internally, especially with Kharijite and Shi'a factions, mostly deriving from rebellions in Iraq and Africa.
This is brilliant description, thanks for adding
The Umayyads were prejudice against non-Arabs so F them.
I just realized I need to watch your channel more often. Good stuff!
thanks man!
Abu muslim would mean father of muslim.
Ibn/bin means son of.
Wow, thanks for that! I watch these vids because I love history, and love to learn things that I never knew. They NEVER covered any of this in the schools I attended. Quick question, does "Ali" mean anything?
@@IFY0USEEKAY Ali means "High/Elevated"
Has the same root as Hebrew Eli.
@@Brahmdagh Awesome, thanks again!
@@Brahmdagh so eli cohen will be ali kahin in arabic?
Yep it absolutely does. The text I read suggested that in its original form it meant something like Father of Muslim / Son of Muslim, basically like ‘John Everyman’. I picked the wrong bit of this to emphasise due to time constraints. Should’ve fleshed it out more in retrospect. Sorry about that! I was sleep deprived and broken by that point
The amount of time and effort you put into your content is amazing. Keep up the great work.
Thanks John. This one was indeed a monster to produce. Glad it is over but it was totally worth it as I learned a huge amount about a topic I wasn't entirely familiar with. Onto the next one!
@@HistoryTime I wish you waffled less about many some of the extremely irrelevant details like the sunni-shia split. Anybody remotely interested in the topic of the video or who looks up "abbasid revolt" or "Abbasid revolution" is very likely to be aware of such split.
@@santossantander387 I think you are being unduly critical about this video which clearly has been given much thought and effort to create and I for one am grateful for all the information and congratulate the author.
Very poor quality video.
Useless and meaningless pictures and clips shown throughout the video. Even the maps being used are static and just traversed through to shown an event.
There's a lot of really good history channels on TH-cam, but you easily stand out as one of the best. Its clear that you put a lot of time and effort into each one of your videos, and they've honestly become the ones I look forward to most out of all my subscriptions. As someone who just can't get enough of learning more history, thank you so much for all that you do to help me learn more. I tell everyone I meet who expresses any interest in history about your channel, and it makes me so happy to have seen your channel grow. Thanks again for all the great content, I look forward to everything else you plan on making in the future.
Justin thank you so much for the kind words. Brings a smile to my face. It’s been great to have people like you watching the channel as it has grown. What a ride it’s been. So much more to cover! Just getting started 😁
Very poor quality video.
Useless and meaningless pictures and clips shown throughout the video. Even the maps being used are static and just traversed through to shown an event.
as much as everyone loves vikings, im glad you're covering more diverse ground. thank you for the awesome video
Thanks for watching! Gotta love Vikings, but the early Arabs were pretty badass too !
@@haitamchouiekh5229 Don't worry. The West is losing its identity too for the Arab one!
Hard work and research into this video clearly shows. Looking forward to the next one
Thanks very much!
The detail and the photography in this video are superb!
Many thank-you's to all who created this gem.
Thanks very much! I am a one man team :)
Epic. These are the cultural and geopolitical details I've been missing to appreciate some of the more military focused content elsewhere.
Thanks very much! Glad you liked it!
@@HistoryTime Truly epic. I am just going to be patient when there is a lull between videos now. That just means something big is on the way and well done as always. 👏🍻
I am aware of this part of history by studying it in school or reading mostly Arabian sources. However I didn't understand how sophisticated the abbassied revolution until after few years of learning. You summarize it in less than an hour.
Your documentary is Interesting, authentic, and high quality work
Great and really interesting topics that are overlooked by most ! Thank you for this !
Thanks for watching glad you enjoyed it !
@@HistoryTime always a pleasure, keep the great work !
Even better than usual, congratulations and well done indeed.
Thanks very much for watching. Appreciate the comment. This one took considerably more time and effort than some of the other videos I've produced. The reading alone took several weeks as I wasn't entirely familiar with this region. Very glad to have done it though as I learned a great deal. Much more like this on the way! Gradually veering along the Silk Road towards Tang Dynasty China :D
Epic, fascinating and informative. A gripping narrative that really fleshes out what is often just glossed over as simply one Arab dynasty overthrowing and replacing the other.
Thanks Artur. Appreciate the comments! It’s a fascinating topic for sure, this video just piqued my interest
Thanks Artur. Appreciate the comments! It’s a fascinating topic for sure, this video just piqued my interest
An awful lot of assassinations but not much explanation what each was about.
Abbasids are persians not arabs my G
Fantastic job! Thank you!!
Thanks very much!
Wonderful video, such detailed history of the Abbasid Revolution , amazing !
Worth the length given it.
Helps me to understand people of the region and in some " small" way see it today.
Thanks Dean
History Time, I have to say...
I just love the inclusion of reading material in your videos, as here 2:26
as always , this channel is gold , keep up the wonderful work
Brilliant content! Fully evident how much effort you put in your videos.
I literally watch these repeatedly. So much to take in and for me, impossible to remember, but fascinating.
Watching the Project Revolution playlist. Fantastic video. New subscriber.
That moment when your video is almost as long as all the other video’s combined.
I get carried away :/ ..
@@HistoryTime Good for us. The more the better.
Hallo from Denmark again again again . Once again . You deliver an amazing Well researched video . And it takes place during the Golden age of islam . And age that indeed had great influence how we think and live today ... Because during the Golden age of islam . The muslim World was leading in medicine, astronomy and philosohy . And anicient roman/Greek text survive . Because arab scholars translated them into arabic .. And they some times expanded the knowlege from these texts .. And the City of Cordoba in muslim controlled Spain became a huge center of learning ... But also after the Norman conquest of sicily . That Island also become a center of learning . During the middleages it high prestige to have studied in universitets in either Cordoba or on sicily . Ancient Greek /roman text were translated from arabic back into latin . And the students brought them back home . But also the arabs during the Golden age of islam . They were actully the first to drink coffee. And with Trade links to india . Abrab merchants brought the Indian number system to first middle East . And the Indian number system are the numbers 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 and 0(zero). And european traders met that numbers system in muslim controlled ports and brought it home with them . These numbers have actully been found on wood planks in an English Church dating to around 1227 . So already during the reign of Henry the third . These numbers were already in use in British soil ... So the Golden age of islam brought great knowlege to the World . And this comment was written on my phone . while I was lying on my on my sofa and drinking a hot cop of coffee. Something that that woud not be possible . If not arabs in modern day Yemen had not discovered the coffee berry ans its bean ..... And from there arab traders spread it into the World
Hej, det hele du sagde er sandt, godt sagt :). Er du muslim?
Vato Næ bare historie interesseret
Vato Nej jeg er bare som før nævnt historie interesseret . Og så har jeg skide god hukommelse . Men ja det er skam sandt. Og her er en detalje som jeg selvfølglig glemte. Men jeg smider lige en engelsk kommentar omkring lige om lidt . Selv en ting som deodorant og gadebelysning er en arabisk opfindelse . Men vikingerne hærgede i Europa i 900 årene . Så byer som Cordoba en tidlig form for gadelygter . Samtidigt gik mænd i den muslimske verden med en sprayede sig tidligt form for deodorant ...
And of course I forgot it to mention it . Well here goes . Even things like deodorant and modern street lightning are arab inventions . So when Ethelred the unready was King of England . Cities like Cordoba in the muslim World had early form of modern Street lights . And also at the same time . Men in the muslim World sprayed themself with an early form of deodorant ...
@@madsdahlc Reminds me,many Muslims of that age considered European Christians to be "filthy and dirty" not because they were non-muslims,but because they reeked of sewage. Ottoman envoys who were sent to France to discuss terms reported that once they got back to Istanbul,they begged the Sultan to not send them back because of how smelly the French were. It's probably one of the reasons why Muslims lost interest in conquering Europe.
I have studied this history in Arabic and read quite a bit in English and I must congratulate you on staying on the original narrative, well done Sir!
Amazing work, as ever.
Thanks!
Great stuff, thanks.
Thanks very much!
This explains everything tome thank you.
Amazing stuff! Thanks for the nice long old school intricate Documentary!
Thanks for watching !
Studied the Islamic empires of 1400-1800 in my second year at uni. A great video exploring the early expansion of Islam. As always, a high quality and interesting video.
It's a fascinating and varied subject. Thoroughly enjoying reading about it.
Sadly, it’s a part of history western audiences know very little about. Indeed, I knew very little about this earlier period of Islam before I had to explore some of it at uni to get some context for my module. I absorbed some knowledge of the Crusades through general osmosis before hand, but this early period I was clueless about. In the current climate, the appetite for this particular period of history is unlikely to grow either.
@Syed Ahmed
History and religion are very much similar in that aspect. People use history or religion to serve particular ends without a full understanding of it. Sadly, it’s a very easy thing to do. Furthermore, misleading people by reciting a few facts without context and understanding is becoming far too common these days.
I know I'm late here. Finally getting a chance to check this out; really liking your podcast style.
Great video. Thank you.
NIce video, and this is something i dodn't know at all, thanks
The caliphate of Cordoba, although brilliant in many ways, was eventually destroyed by the same Arab elitism that saw the overthrow centuries earlier, of the caliphate in Damascus. The collapse of Cordoba was a tragedy because in its heyday it had been one of the great centres of learning and cultural achievements on the western European mainland.
Aye true. More on this to come. The collapse of the Caliphate of Cordoba and rise of the Taifa states is an incredibly fascinating era. Its real life Game of Thrones.
It's ok we get Florencia and Urbino eventually.
even in al andalus they still show favouritism of arabic tribe over native andalusian muslim !!
Ever since umayyad rule in al andalus , they have to deal with numerous rebellions conducted by dissatisfied non arab muslim
Here's a vid about the clollapse of al andalus th-cam.com/video/lamRUwO2IyA/w-d-xo.html
I don’t think this is entirely true. Almanzor heavily weakened the Umayyad dynasty and effectively turned the Caliph into a figurehead. Understandably the Arabs who supported the Umayyads were annoyed
Am on my third listen all the way through and am enjoying every second.
Really pleased you are enjoying the video! This one took a silly amount of time to make. Thanks so much.
Amazingly detailed video brother....loving yours all videos...
Keep it up brother🔥
Thanks very much!
Very well researched. The presentation was absolutely amazing. Well done
Brilliant. Thank you very much, as always. And this playlist is a treasure. I appreciate this channel more than I can properly express.
Regarding the call for a video on the fall of Dumnonia above, may I second that? I recenrly picked up some of Bernard Cornwell's books on the Arthurian and Saxon eras, and then fell into the history section at the college library. I've been binge watching your videos as a neat supplement/complement.
Cheers, and again, thank you.
Thanks Eli! Much more on the way. Aye something is definitely in the works on Dumnonia. It's a difficult subject due to lack of literary sources but I will certainly give it a go.
Bernard Cornwell's Saxon Stories first inspired me to delve into the Early Medieval Period in around 2011/2012, which is now my main passion. Prior to that I probably considered WW2, or Precolumbian Mesoamerica my main areas of expertise. After reading Cornwell it was Saxons, Danes and Britons from then onwards, and the rest came after that. Basically the man is one of the primary reasons this channel exists.
@@HistoryTime, then you and I have developed alomg similar paths (though I'm certain your knowledge is much more expansive). I'm quite thrilled to be banging through pre-Norman British history of late. As you said, the lack of documentation can be frustrating, but I imagine you will deliver another fine lesson when you put together your Dumnonian effort.
Again, cheers!
Superb as usual - you are setting a high bar for yourself.
Well researched and brilliantly presented,very well done
Lots of inaccuracies not well done.
The battle of Karbala was the pivotal point that created the grounds for a revolution
The Rafidhi (a person who rejects the Caliphate of Abu Bakr and Umar) said to him (Al Hasan ibn Hasan), “Did not the Messenger of Allah say to Ali: ‘If i am Mawla of someone, Ali is his Mawla?’” He (Al Hasan) replied, “By Allah, if he meant by that Amirate and rulership, he would have been more explicit to you in expressing that, just as he was explicit to you about the Salah, Zakat and Hajj to the House. He would have said to you, ‘Oh people! This is your leader after me.’ The Messenger of Allah gave the best good counsel to the people (i.e. clear in meaning). “If it is like what you say, that Ali was chosen for this after the Prophet (pbuh), then he would be the most flawed from all the people, because he didn’t do as the Prophet (pbuh) commanded””(Source: Source: Tabaqat Ibn Sa’d. Vol. 7, Pg. # 314; Chain is Good)
@@soheil527 nothing but fabrication (FAKE NEWS)
@@kingslayer8121 same with all shia narrations. they killed hasan with their own hands. by the way trump is gone so no more fake news
@@soheil527
Whole Sunni ideology is based on fake news! Lol very sad
"Empire must expand or die".
- Shao Kahn, MK 11.
Everything has a beginning and an end.
Bravo, sir! A part of my master's thesis discusses the `Abbasid Revolution and its lasting effects on Muslims in the Levant, specifically pro-Umayyad Syrians. You've done TH-cam a great service with this video and touched on most of the pertinent details of why and how the House of `Abbas rose to power. Most introductory histories of the Revolution don't offer a concise discussion of the civil strife enacted by the Umayyads on the mawali (non-Arab Muslims) of Khurasan.
It's worth mentioning that the Revolution was overwhelming fueled by apocalyptic expectations and the mission to bring about the messianic age. The oldest and most influential Islamic apocalyptic text was penned during and after the Revolution. It's a book of apocalyptic ahadith (sayings of the Prophet Muhammad) called Kitab al-Fitan ("The Book of Tribulations") by Nu`aym ibn Hammad al-Marwazi, a Syrian Muslim who was sympathetic to the Umayyads and gives insight into Syrian disenfranchisement at the hands of the `Abbasid Caliphate.
Wow that must have taken a lot of work! Thanks for that detailed video! I love learning about non-western history because we almost never learn about it in school. Even in college my only two mandatory history classes were about Europe (again) and Canada (I'm Canadian), all the other history classes like history of Africa were optionals if you chose to do a minor in history (I chose politic instead)
I'm up past my bedtime. Thanks Pete. I would have turned off most content and just watch it tomorrow. This was too good though.
-Jake
Glad you like it! Thanks
really good research, as an eastern scoller's view this video was really accurate. keep it up👍
Thanks very much glad you like it!
Scholar's view*
Thanks alot...
High quality, well done.
This is about the only channel that talk about this kind of topic. Excellent contents as ever my guy. P/S try to put age of empires 2 gameplay on background for shit and giggles
Love a bit of Age of Empires. Glad you like the channel! Thanks!
Incredible the amount of history that can be fit into a 47* minute long video. Nice work.
Thanks for watching !
Nicely done
Another great video 👍
In the west, the Abassids do not get the full credit they deserve for being among the world's most important empires. Arguably, their scholars contributed more to posterity than the Romans. Thx for the video.
@Lord Azarkhan Um, you wouldn't be typing a comment on internet without the Scientific Method, which was first formulated in the Abassid caliphate.
The Romans were great at copying others but were not creative people. Can you name even one great Roman invention? I bet you can't.
Whammy Bard Romans invented Concrete, a system of roads that are even in service today and built upon, aqueducts, sewers, they were the first to bind what we know of as books, first to have extensive government funded social welfare, while not invented Romans expanded the use of the arch, newspapers, food powered loom
Yeah by translating Indian/Greek/Persian knowledge.
@@AbbeyRoadkill1
Lol, boy, you need a lot of history lessons.
@UC391I3geDYn80saYA4kBk8A
Hahhhaahhhhhaahh, where did you learn that? Madrassa!!! Lol. You muzlims are so brainwashed. No doubt muslims contributed in knowledge for a while but... Whatever they learned from translation era was acquired from ancient Indians, persians and greeks sources.
Actually, the Battle of the Camel was fought between Ali (the 4th Caliph and cousin and son-in-law of Muhammad) and Aisha, the Prophet´s Widow
yea
Aisha didn't lead any army, she was just there to give legitimacy to the enemies of Ali.
@@gostavoadolfos2023 she did lead the army
@@gostavoadolfos2023 of course Aisha rebelled against her legitimate Khalifa. She called the army together and got Talha and Zubair on her side. As a result of Aishas actions at least 10,000 Muslims who are allegedly all her children were killed by her hatred for Imam Ali(as). I don't know what type of mother can kill so many of her children
@@gostavoadolfos2023 the fighting stopped when her camel was cut down at the knees which should tell you who led the Fitnah against the Representative of Allah. Other wives of Rasool Allah(saw) had also warned her against this and reminded her of the Prophet's command to remain in their homes. However she was full of hatred towards the Ahlulbayt that she was happy to sin against the command of Allah to fuel her hate
Very excellent video and presentation
Continue with such works
I am subscribing this channel now
Professional level. TY
I'm quite surprised
Great comments thanks to the channel owner and the owners of good comments
I have some information that can correct some mistakes
First: Mohammed bin Ali from the house of Ali and not from the Abbasid house
Second: the first organizer of the revolution is the older brother named Ibrahim and died in prison in the succession of Hisham
Abu Jaafar al-Mansour and Abu al-Abbas al-Saffah
There were many discrepances from the truth , so many .. But we got to appreciate the effort
Pretty good. I know things now I hadn't known before. Thanks for posting!
Love your videos Keep it up bro :)
Thanks for watching! Much more on the way !
I really enjoyed this trip thru history 😊
I'm halfway through, it's fantastic as always but I have to ask, where is that building at 18:45?
It’s Qasr al Farid ‘the lonely castle’ in western Arabia I believe. It’s difficult to know when to stop labelling absolutely everything on screen but maybe I should’ve included a label for that. I will do a video on pre Islamic Arabia for sure. It’s an incredibly diverse and rich era
@@HistoryTime Nice i'll have to look into that. Looks amazing.
It's in Madain Saleh in Al Ula province western Saudi Arabia.
Madain Saleh was the second capital of the Arab Nabatean kingdom, pushed south from Petra in trans Jordania to inner Arabia by the Romans in the 1st century AD.
There are also archaeological ruins in the same area that date back to 3000 BC believed to be the home of the ancient Arab people known in the Islamic literature as Thamud (or People of prophet Saleh).
Arabia has a rich pre-Islamic history, unlike the stereotypical narrative that Arabia is nothing but dune sands!
Each year a festival is held in Madain Saleh, and tourists from all the world are welcome to celebrate with us this part of our history.
Just type Winter In Tantura in YT or google and have a look...
Learn more about Madain Saleh by visiting us there.
Don't forget to purchase your ticket for next year's winter festival.
Welcome :)
Thank you, sir, for including my homeland Armenia not only as part of the story but also as part of the mapped frontiers.
Every historian who mentions the presence of Armenians in the annals of antiquity ensures that my people won't be ignored by future scholars.
Excellent, excellent, and excellent. So cool watching the continuity from the Bronze Age & Iron Age Persian Empires and their dealings with the Romans, et al., and now the Post-Classical Umayyad & Abbasid Caliphates, their origins, and mentions of their further connections to Medieval Europe (Battle of Tours) and Post-Classical China (Battle of Talas).
I'm on a huge history kick these days, and History Time with Pete Kelly satisfies my cravings.
Excellent 👌
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Do you have a reference of the story from the servant? I would like to read the reference, thank you.
"Abu" means father of, thus Abu-muslim = father of muslim .... ("Ibn" means son of)
beat me to it
Yep it absolutely does. The text I read suggested that in its original form it meant something like Father of Muslim / Son of Muslim, basically like ‘John Everyman’. I picked the wrong bit of this to emphasise due to time constraints. Should’ve fleshed it out more in retrospect. Sorry about that! I was sleep deprived and broken by that poin
@@VoicesofthePast The Arabic naming system is complex and idiomatic based on time and place so it's an easy mistake
I was thinking the same thing.
I have seen 'Abu' translated as meaning something like "poppa".
Fantastic!
Great videos
Dam u make good videos.
Thanks for watching ! Appreciate it
Would you mind doing a video on the downfall of Dummnonia, it doesn't get enough attention and It's a great story
Actually I am in Cornwall right now, most likely a video will result.
Happy Coincidence:)
If you pass through Wiltshire on your way back you should visit west Kennet long barrow, Its a completely excavated barrow out in a field that you can go inside.
I am asking for this 2 years now!!! Are you from the area of Dumnonia?
This documentary made me want to play another 1000 hours of Crusader Kings. 😂 Seriously, it is one of the best history related channel I've ever found, thanks for your hard work, now I understand the abbassid revolution better.
Thank you
love how you said "perceived atrocities of the Ummayads". As always, it's a matter of perspective.
It’s all about who writes the histories. The accounts we have of the Umayyads were mostly written by their enemies or at the least people who didn’t like them much.
History Time I feel that it is not just important to consider historical writings but also the archaeological findings as well
Perhaps one needs to keep the time period under discussion in perspective. Without trying to introduce ANY modern sentiments or predispositions of ANY kind.
Life even amongst so called "civilized" ancient nations back then. Did not have the same meaning as it does in most civilized nations today. Life back then was not held nearly as sacred because it was often extremely fleeting. With ancient peoples dying daily in warfare or by disease, starvation, natural disaster, and misadventure. Often with whole tribes, villages, towns, or cities of humanity becoming extinct or enslaved in short order and their ethnic and linguistic identities being either forgotten and swept clean from the historical record. Or subsumed by the identities of their would be conquerors.
And often as not.
The measure of how successful or strong a given people or leader was. Back then.
Was measured in the numbers of OTHER peoples bodies left in the wake of their various "conquests". In other words. For notable historical leaders to BE held as notable. Their success or failure was often as not measured in the number of people(s) they'd slain. Not just in any territory gained.
And as such.
ANY talk of "innumerable" enemies slain or "atrocities" commited by such and such leader or group of ancient people against their contemporaries. Should always be viewed with a bit of suspicion. Because on the one hand. Battlefield success was often severly overly inflated or overly deflated by contemporary and later writers. Either to portray a given leader or group of people in a favorable or unfavorable viewpoint from the writers own contemporary standards. Or for the various reasons of ANY given writer. Many of those often being composition for the mere sake of their own social mobility, or financial or political attainment. Just take for example the accounts by court scribes of Egypt's many pharoes. Who are often as not portrayed as "smiteing" or "punishing" endless multitudes of enemies. And of being successful in EVERY battle they engaged in. Which modern scholars know and now tend to agree. To be hogwash. As most of those ancient propagandist claims have now been rigourously refuted and concluded by the examination of the archaeological record AND the found records and accounts left by any literate peoples who were ever in conflict with the ancient Egyptians.
So since we modern folks DO know and understand how inaccurate ancient written sources can be. Why then should we commit to repeating the same mistakes and errors as those ancient writers and commentators did. By includeing our own modern ideals and biases in our discussions of ancient peoples and the known historical information about them??
@@johnthompson965 jesus christ! how long did that take to write!? :O
Darth Calanil..... Not long. I had time to spare while cooking. And I don't mind writeing.
@History Time
I would like to point out with respect, that the Battle of the Camel did not involve the Banu Ummayah, you might have meant to say the Battle of Safeen or the Siege of Makkah!
Hi/Salam damned Muawiah the founder of cursed ummayid dynasty was Mastermind behind the battle of camel
yes it did , it was a conflict between Muaweyah and Ali in general .
Tv حفريات no it was a conflict between Ali and Aisha
Superb, fascinating, unparralelled presentation. I am going to subscribe to your channel. keep up the goooood work.
I love your explanation very good.
Love the doc, but it should be noted that the Arabic script is based on a cursive form of Aramaic, currently surviving in Syriac. Interestingly, the Uighur, Manchu, and Mongolian alphabets also come from the Syriac script, except, under Chinese influence, they were written from top to bottom.
ما علاقت الترك بلغة سام لا تتشابه ابدا انا سوري ونحن قديمن نتكلم الارامية وانا الان اتكلم العربية ولارامية انها متشابهة جدا جميع لغات السامية تشبه بعضها اما بنسبا للمغول والاتراك فهم عرق واحد اصلهم شرق اسيا بعد دخولهم للدين الاسلام اصبحو يتكلمون مصطلحات عربية وبلحقيقة هم لغتهم سرقة من جميع انحاء لعالم لم يكن لديهم لغة غنية بلمفردات واريد ان اضيف شيئ مني هوا بلحقيقة انتم تعتقدون اننا نحب حكم العثماني وهاذا غلط لقد استغلو دين الاسلام بلسيطرا على شرق لاوسط وكان هدفهم السيطرا ولقوى لا اكثر وفترت العثماني لقد نشرو الجهل في بلدي وبلد متل سوريا عريق بلحضارات وتاريخ قبل الاسلام وبعد الاسلام تحياتي الك
@@AbdulazizAlHammad-to3hs I was talking about how the Syriac script (not the language) propagated to Central Asia, where it was used to write certain languages there. Scripts and languages are different things - the alphabet I am writing in can be traced back to the Middle East, but the language I am writing in is entirely unrelated to Phoenician or any other Semitic language. The diffusion of the Syriac script happened way before the Ottomans that you are discussing, in the first millennium CE. I do think it is very cool that you are bilingual in Aramaic and Arabic, though. Hold onto that, that is truly precious.
Btw I didn't click the translate button ;)
Awesome video - critical moment in the history and the point where Abd al-Rahman I escaped to Al Andalus. Btw, Where do you get your stock landscape video footage?
Thanks man! I really enjoyed listening to your work about Abl al-Rahman a while back. Footage mostly comes from a website called videoblocks. You pay for a yearly subscription but there are a load of free clips on there too.
@@HistoryTime Thank you! I'll have to check it out. All the best!
Flash Point History i usually sleep on your videos in the weekend ! Thanks
Thanks!
This was epic.
Make a video on battle of Karbala
Holy shit, what was behind the other door?
Another pile of corpses apparently, there is a reason why his brother was called Al-Saffah "Blood-shedder". Imagine a clan numbering in thousands disappearing in matter of months and only one of them survived.
Tupperware.
One of the best video regarding Islamic History.
Good One !
32:06 his name means 'Father of a Muslim' not 'son of a Muslim' .
I am from Iraq Baghdad . A very interesting and well made documentary that even i as an Arab find it pretty detailed and hard to get sometimes from old Arab sources .
Abbasids really saved Islam from these racist thoughts of the Omayyad , and thanks to the Abbasids that made Islam back to the main teachings that says equality between every peoples in earth .
Haha.. abbasid were more monarchs..they were not enough good like instead..
IMAM HUSSAIN R.A stand-up against monarch. And shia support the same monarch system by supporting abbasid and by saying MUHAMMAD S.A.W declare HAZRAT ALI R.A the first administrator which is totally against Islamic principle.
The ummayads were bad and apparently the Abbasids had good intentions but later became corrupted
Abbased destroy islam didnot save it .
I read in some place Many umuyed have christian adviser because the muslim can be a ruler but the christian cannot .
This make the the christian more trustfull for this jop than the muslim .
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From this we can understand that umuyed werenot racist but smart very smart .
After the umuyed the abbased start losing lands that make them in the end a ruler just in the name and the actual ruler is the (seljuk turk ) .
the umuyed fall for many reasons
The most important tow for me
1-most of the umuyed army was from yemenian tribes but the umuyed start like and depend on the north arabian tribe (andani)
There many wars start between the arab tribes evry were (they have external enimy and fight each other )
Even there is arab poet say
Why this fight between each other
And there is enemy for you
A people (the persian ) their relegion is how to kill the arab
2- the war with khuwarej .
In the umuyed mind the persian were not worth trust like the christian .
-The christian donot hate arab
-The christian donot want rebuled an empire because the roman empire was roman empire not christian one .
@Maina Fridman when the Turks took the power the Islamic world turned into shithole
@@user-up7li7vd1t it's true..ottoman are really sneaky shit turd ...they were nomad raider in early times ..
7:35 -Coruscant- Khorasan
Thought I was the only one to catch that lol! *insert lightsaber sounds here*
Oh Hussayn, to this day your name is synonymous with revolution and rebellion; your name is the battle cry of the oppressed, your name gives us strength to battle the oppressors of our time, may your name be forevermore remembered till the day of resurrection.
Excellent video, the Abbasyds unfortunately were more oppressive than the Ummayids, and their downfall opened the door to the the rise of of three powerful empires: the Ottomans, the Safavids, and the Mughals.
lol he attempted a coup just like his father murdered othman ,to take over from from the umayids this is history time not latum time 😂 go beat yourself and fake tears over fairytales 😁, really pathetic .
This channel should have at least 4.7M subscribers.
Great video but would like to point out that the black flags do hold a religious connotation as they are representitive of the black banners of the khorasani that would rise in iran with the return of the awaited Mahdi in the end times which would explain the choice of the color even more.
Just thought u would find that interesting
@Yousef Ghaneemah black banners also mentioned by Prophet Muhammad (pbu) & it will rise by real followers of Imam Mahdi(aj) bit Abbasids & ISIS hijacked this idea from Shia Muslims
@@ashvazdanghe although i am not aware of the authenticity status of that hadith, but that hadith mentions khorasan from where the black flags will rise and not iran. And the region of khorasan is today's afghanistan mostly a bit of pakistan and a bit of iran. Just saying.
Whats with speed ed videos from time to time other than that very interesting. You just need help compiling the videos properly.
Could you make a documentary Of The Battle of Karbala I Would so much appreciated
Informative indeed , I would suggest that since it was a most significant part of history it can be a more longer version.Love from Dhaka Bangladesh
Love the video, but two remarks:
You've shown the Damascus gate in Jerusalem not in Damascus and the other "Abu Muslim" mean Father of Muslim not son of. In the Arab society it is common to call a father after his son's name
Considering some kinds of people, most topics of History Time (which is mostly about vikings, rus, normans, anglosaxons etc) attracts I though the comment senction would be "interesting". But it seems everything is ok so far. Keep up the good job.
I am also quite happy with this. Sometimes the comments are ... difficult on this channel. I really dislike having to police them but sometimes it is necessary. With this video it has not been necessary !
4 years later but yeah, I'm always worried about the same thing because I love history channels who can tackle both Vikings and the early Islamic conquests, but unfortunately racist dipsh*ts love the first subject, so I'm always afraid what kind of unpleasant fauna the second one will attract.
Great job, still watchng, but just wanted to recommend Arnold Toynbee's literature on the Arabian Thamudic empire, and his thesis on the founding of the river valley civilizations of the middle east, which he believes were the successors of previously thriving peoples... there is ample evidence for his argument, as well as evidence for Thamudic being the precursor to the writing system of the phoenicians, thus all later peoples suhbad the greeks, etc. love you channel, thanks for the hard work.
Great story!