In the December issue of Handloader magazine (335) Brian featured the new Colt Python. This video tests several handloads through the Colt Python .357 Magnum.
I have taken this one and run it several times at Gunsite since this video and it has yet to have an issue other than some powder fouling under the ejector star which is a common problem when you are speed loading and shooting 500 rounds in a day or two. Overall I am very impressed with the new Colt Python and wouldn't hesitate to recommend one for self defense or otherwise. Thanks for watching and for the feedback! --Jeremiah
I bought one of these a couple years ago. Several TH-cam dudes did nothing but trash the gun eight ways from Sunday; mostly based on nothing more than what they read here online. That just made me want one even more, at less than $5,000 too by the way. I am thrilled with mine. It functions like a Swiss watch and at a mere fraction of the cost of one of the original Pythons. Glad to hear your fair assessment of this iconic revolver.👍🏿
There was a lot of controversy over these guns, saying they had bad hands, bad triggers you name it. I watched many of those videos as well and I thought that people deserved an unbiased and honest review of the revolvers. Now some of them may have had issues we have only tested two of these guns so far one by me and one by Brian one of our writers. Neither one of us had any issues and I hear if anyone does have issues Colt is taking good care of their customers. We do our best to showcase the gun in an unbiased and opinionated light. We shot it and it functioned just fine for us and we rode it pretty hard and put it up wet a few times. It is nice to hear the experience of another Colt Python owner and hear that you have not had any issues with yours. I really appreciate the kind words and you taking the time to watch the video and comment! --Jeremiah
@@HandloaderTV I have really enjoyed the postings here from Handloader TV. Sharing your knowledge of all things gun and shooting related, is very much appreciated. Like I said in another post, you have my attention. Keep 'em comin'! On the matter of the new Python, any mass produced product is going to have a flaw or flaws somewhere along the line of processing. Anyone who's ever purchased a new car can attest to that; and they cost a hellava lot more than Colt Pythons. But what really matters is how the manufacturer responds to the customer dissatisfaction. Before many of these revolvers were actually field tested to any significant degree, the trashing of the gun and Colt began. Don't recall any new rollout so mercilessly dumped on. Like you say, they have responded favorably despite the trolls. In any event, to each his own. But this septuagenarian is quite happy with his. Thx agn!
And I bet 99.9% of the people who trashed the new python never held one in their hands let alone fire one. And the people who did have issues with the 1st batch Colt fixed them. Yeah the new python is the only gun to have an issue.
you are most welcome as always thank you for taking the time to watch we really appreciate it and had a lot of fun putting this together for everyone to view! --Jeremiah
I sure want to have a Ransom Rest. 40 some years ago when I first started reloading and testing load accuracy I shot with my own skill which introduced so much human errors and wasted a lots of ammo. Your load development, data, and test setup were so scientific and professional you could really fine tune any load to any particular gun for any specific need such as practice, target, self defense, and hunting. Great video.
The Ransom Rest has been a great asset here on the channel for testing it saves us a lot of time and components as well. It is amazing how much human error there is when it comes to shooting and how much shooter fatigue plays a factor. We really appreciate the kind words and the feedback it is always appreciated. It makes my day to hear comments like yours! We hope that others appreciated the knowledge shared. Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment! --Jeremiah
The New Python and Original Python are both spectacular handguns, but in totally different ways. Colt put 30% more metal into the design of the New Python and can clearly tell the difference in the hammer, trigger, and other internals. The New Python is an incredibly strong, but extremely well-balanced and accurate handgun. I can shoot Buffalo Bore Heavy 357 (1,500fps and 899 ft. lbs) and it handles it effortlessly in the 6" barrel option. I don't think you could ever wear this gun out.
That is a very good point while the ascetics are quite similar they are different and the new one is certainly more robustly built. Thank you for watching and for taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah
That is great to hear I am very interested in how these guns are performing for others especially given how many folks have completely bashed the New Colt Python over how many issues they've had. So it is very interesting to hear what others are saying about their own experiences with these guns. This one seemed to be a real shooter! --Jeremiah
Thank you very much for the kind words I really appreciate that! A lot of studying and reading goes into making each of these videos and even more testing so I am glad that comes through on camera! Thank you for watching! --Jeremiah
First time I have watched this channel. Impressed, very well done very professional! I own 2020 Python with the 4.125 barrel. Well made and accurate & hopefully I will get continued durability out of it. I ordered the 3 inch Python 2 weeks ago and can see the 6 inch in my future. I mostly feed my Python a diet of 158 grain LSWC under 6 grains of Unique with WLP primers. Really like that 180 grain load of yours!
Let me be the first to welcome you to the channel and thank you for taking the time to watch and comment, the feedback is always appreciated! That is really great to hear that you are having success with you Pythons it is always nice to know what other folks are shooting and loading so thank you for sharing that as well. I really think that is what the comments section is all about! I like that 180 grain load as well! It was quite impressive! Thanks again and good shooting and happy handloading! --Jeremiah
Love the video and great lessons. I started reloading my own cartridges using H110 and SPM your video helped my confidence. On a side note I have the 4" new Python and my 586 speedloaders work great with the Colt.
Thank you for the kind words and the feedback on the videos, it is greatly appreciated!! That is what we are all about providing good accurate information on a subject that is full of misinformation. The fact that it helps others get into it and get started makes our day! That is really good to know I appreciate the heads up and I will be giving that a try thank you! --Jeremiah
Thank you very much a lot of folks do not understand that or how it works, and incorrectly use magnum primers in everything and are therefore leaving a lot of performance on the table. Thank you for taking the time to watch! --Jeremiah
Nice work Jeremiah. That bench you have set up ensures a reliable test for accuracy. It also helps that you used an amazing press with that Redding Turret!
Always nice to see you in the comments section! The bench has really been a huge help for accuracy testing and the equipment we use certainly makes a difference as well! Thank you for watching! --Jeremiah
That Colt shoots very very well with pretty much every load you put thru it on this video. Load #1, 3 and that 180gr load was exceptionally accurate. I never pay much attention to the internet experts. I use the term just to be polite. I am in the market for a 357 and this Colt just might get the nod. Powder and Primers are still in short supply where I live.
I must admit I was very impressed with the results we got with this Colt. I am surprised at how many people jumped all over these Pythons saying how terrible they were but to be honest I did not see that at all. There may have been a few bad ones early on but I think most of them were fixed before they ever left the factory. You are not alone there, I have not seen primers locally on the shelf for about 2 years now. I did hear that some Shotgun primers were at our local sportsman's warehouse but I personally never saw them. Thank you so much for taking the time to watch the video and comment we really appreciate it! --Jeremiah
Jeremiah one again you have brought a very informative video to the subscribers, a real home run. Those were some great loads in your Python, it does my heart good to see the Snake line up back in production . I won’t be running out and getting a new Python, I still have my Colt Trooper MKIII 4 inch. But I will be trying 3 of your loads, keep up the great work 👍🏾
@@VitoBb1978 Thank you so much for the kind words and taking the time to watch the video and comment! I agree with you it is nice to see the Python back again! I don't blame you those Colt Troopers are nice guns and a whole lot of fun to shoot and load for! Thanks again. --Jeremiah
Great video. Just found you. I love the .357 cartridge and just got a new Python with 4.25 bbl. Grail gun for me. I handload for a .357 Henry and it’s a darling of a shooter. Thanks for the info!
Thank you very much, we appreciate the kind words. I love the .357 Mag in a lever action and would love to do a video on that at some point as well. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah
Hi Jeremiah! Really enjoyed the video showing the loads you worked up as the .357 Magnum is one of my most favorite cartridges to load and mostly because of its extreme versatility. I have many .357’s presently: a S&W Mod 27 4” blued revolver with a nice big Hogue custom grip, a Taurus Titanium Tracker 7 shooter 6”, a circa 1967 Colt Trooper 1st Model 6” thats chromed and has gold trigger/hammer/cyl release, A Ruger SP101 2”, a new Kimber K6S 2”, and a Coonan semi-automatic Classic 5” in Stainless. I’ve found super accurate loads with all of these guns and not all at maximum loadings. Been thinking of getting both a new Colt Python probly a 4”, and quite possibly an older Colt classic 4” Python that’s in the Royal Blue finish, in as good a shape as I can find. I know it won’t be cheap, but I’m willing to pay for what I want. Q: Do you think it would be worth it to have a really good gunsmith slick up the action a little on both guns? Pls keep these vids going.
Thank you so much for the kind words and the feedback it is greatly appreciated! It really is an extremely versatile cartridge and there are quite a few excellent firearms chambered in such cartridge. I appreciate you taking the time to share your experience here in the comments section with others. To be honest there are not very many good gunsmiths that know how to work on the Colt Pythons as I am sure you are aware of they are a little different kind of animal. I would suggest speaking with Dave Fink of Finks Custom gunsmithing. He has done outstanding work for us in the past and I know he does have experience with the Colt Pythons as well. He is the resident gunsmith for Gunsite academy as well. Thanks for watching! --Jeremiah
Awesome channel I bought everything for reloading I just haven't had time and a place to set it all up at I've had it all for years for over 5 years brand new still in the Box..
Thank you very much for the kind words commenting your experience in your previous comment and providing us with feedback. It is always nice to hear from the viewers! Well perhaps we can provide you with the motivation and information you need to get started! If you have any questions don't hesitate to leave us a comment, we also have a reloading 101 video that should be enough to get you started and cover most of the basics to handloading. --Jeremiah
@@SWR1-1 2400 is a fantastic powder and I love it as well not only in the .357 magnum but in many many other cartridges as well! Thanks for watching and taking the time to share your experience! --Jeremiah
Thank you very much, we have recently started shooting more factory ammunition as well for those that don't handload, it is a fun and enjoyable hobby and I spend a lot of time doing it. Although full disclosure I may be a little bit biased. I do enjoy the variety of loads out there and how much more you can shoot though. Thanks for the kind words and taking the time to watch! --Jeremiah
Big fan of the 357 Mag. It was the first revolver cartridge I learned to shoot when I was just a young fellow out of a Ruger Security Six. Now about 40 years later still running two 357 Mag 686 revolvers and a Winchester 1873 in 357 Mag. Some spectacular results there! As others have said, be great to see you run those in a lever gun. That’s a hint …. 😉
First off, thank you so much for watching and for the feedback and sharing your experience it is greatly appreciated. I too love the .357 Magnum cartridge and it's nice to have so many options to shoot it through. I would love to cover the .357 mag in a lever action at some point in the near future I think that would be a spectacular idea! --Jeremiah
Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment, I would love to get my hands on a BFR in .454 Casull and maybe even a Ruger as well I think that would be very interesting! I am not opposed to testing any guns out it is simply a matter of time, money, and if we can get our hands on a particular firearm. Thanks again for watching! --Jeremiah
Indeed, the double action pull weight of the revolver is outstanding and has no stack. An enjoyable revolver to shoot and that is coming from a man who regularly carries a Smith. Thanks for watching and sharing your experience! --Jeremiah
Kudos to your videographer, as usual, and to your ability to smoothly narrate the video. The .357 has been a favorite for many years. I shoot an older S&W model 27 and more recently a Marlin 1894. Also added a Savage model 24v in .357 over 20 gauge. I heard or read that the .357 mag displaced the Colt Walker as the most powerful handgun (many years apart, of course). To your knowledge, is this true or just hearsay ?
That would be our Art Director Chris Downs, while he is never on camera these videos would not be possible without him he does a fantastic job catching everything on film and editing out my stuttering and making a very clean easy to watch video! Thank you for taking the time to share your experience with everyone in the comments section. To my knowledge the Colt Walker was introduced around 1846 and the .357 magnum was introduced around 1935 so you are talking quite a large time gap between the two and in between you have around 1873 the 45 Colt coming into production as well which in my opinion was more powerful than the Colt walker but I suppose that depends on your definition of power as well. I would say that is just hearsay though and I would be hesitant to believe that claim. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah
Power Pistol is really a great powder, I have had good results with it in 9mm, 45 ACP and .357 mag among other cartridges as well. I don't think you can go wrong with Power Pistol. Thank you so much for watching! --Jeremiah
I just recently came across this channel and I’ve watched several of these videos and was wondering if you have or will be doing, a video on handloading the 30-06?
Thank you taking the time to watch the videos we appreciate it! I will be doing a video on the 30-06 it is on the short list for our load development videos and I hope to have ti done this year if everything goes well. I would also like to do a load development specifically for the M1 Garand as well. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah
Would you consider doing a video on the 6x45 , a great coyote cartridge ! Works great in ARs and bolt actions and very easy to reload ! Thanks for all your hard work !!!
I would always consider doing videos on cartridges we have not covered before the only limiting factor at this point is time and availability of components. However I would love to cover every cartridge out there and do load development videos on as much as I can. Thank you for the feedback and the suggestion they are always appreciated! --Jeremiah
I owned 5 old Pythons and they did develop problems with time. They were very nice in the day . But I liked the Trooper better. They didn't tend to develop those kinda of problems. I'm really tired of hearing that the old one's were hand built. With the new CNC manufacturing it is much more precise than the old hand manufacturing. I shot one of the new Pythons, and it seems to fire much better than the old ones . I hope they don't have the issues that the old ones did .
I actually got to speak with the former Gunsite gunsmith, and he said the same thing, even going as far as saying the originals could be knocked out of time by dropping them or having them beat up during a fight. I have not experienced that myself but I also have not subjected guns to severe duty use. Unless you count horseback trips into back country but I am still not rolling around on the ground with the gun. I honestly agree with you these new guns are very nice and honestly I think the triggers on the new ones have less stack than the stock original Pythons. I hope that the new ones are more durable and rugged than the old ones as well. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah
@@HandloaderTV you are exactly right about the stack on the trigger stack. I had problems with trigger springs. I do know people that had timing issues, but I personally didn't. I got mine second handed, the problem with the trigger springs was 2 of mine someone had cut the springs to lighten the trigger pull.
@@waynedavis7245 Yeah I haven't had any timing issues either but I am glad to hear that I am not alone with the trigger stack, I would be curious to check my springs and see if they have been cut. I appreciate the insight on that and to be honest the thought never even crossed my mind to check the length of the springs! I appreciate the insight. All the more reason I say we have the best comment section on TH-cam, it's a place where folks can come and learn! --Jeremiah
@@waynedavis7245 That is very good to know, I haven't had any issues firing double action so perhaps my springs are still good then. It is something i'll certainly have to check out though. I appreciate the information! --Jeremiah
Great job. Got the 6 inch and agree about the trigger serrations, too aggressive after 4 or 5 cylinders of .357. Leaves imprint on finger and gets unpleasant to shoot. It's really not a upgrade or desired. Trigger pull is smooth but to heavy for me and there is stacking at the end, but slight. That designer and his buddy who approved the rear sight afterthought should be fired. Two different tools to adjust a rear sight, and sloppy fit in frame is just amature on a MSRP of 1499USD revolver. That said it's great gun if you can swallow the cost.
Thank you very much! Indeed if it were up to me I would probably have those ground off or at the very least lightened. It is a small thing but it makes a difference. The trigger is definitely heavy on ours as well with a hint of stack as well but not nearly as bad as the original un-tuned Pythons. I did not think of that aspect I usually have a tool bag filled with stuff for adjusting sights and what not. Needing two tools to adjust the sights could be an issue but then again so is a sight that drifts on you in the field. The fit and finish on our revolver was pretty good and did not have any noticeable slop. So it is interesting to hear your experiences with New Colt Python. They certainly aren't cheap but the prices that the original Pythons are going for are just plain insane so it is nice to have an alternative! Thank you so much for watching and taking the time to share your experience with others in the comments section I think that is what it is all about and I always enjoy hearing what others have to say and think! --Jeremiah
Agree with the rear sight gripes. I replaced mine with Harrison Customs. I feel like they just don't want to pay someone to handfit "oversized" rear sight blades in the factory. The .010" "oversized" harrison rear blade didn't even need lube to slide in, to me that means the factory blade is .010" undersized
I love accurate No. 9 I think it is a fantastic powder, It is always nice to hear that others are having similar results! Thanks for watching. -- Jeremiah
I appreciate the feedback, we were actually talking about getting better studio light and better close ups especially when crimping! I appreciate the suggestion! Thanks for watching! --Jeremiah
Just picked up a 6” model, fortunately I have plenty of primers and powder on hand, sure am ready for them to be back in plentiful supply, this shortage has been going on since 2009. I recall picking up a thousand primers before this all stated for $12.50. Then prices went to $25/1000. Nothing but crazy ever since.
Congratulations!! When you get some trigger time behind it you'll have to let us know how it does! If there is one thing this shortage has shown it's that you can't have enough components. It has been going on for a long time. 2009 was pretty bad, it got better for a few years and now it's as bad as I can ever remember it's really starting to effect what we can do and how quickly we can do it which is very disappointing. Hopefully things get better soon!! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah
There's a new sheriff in town! Combined with Paul Harrell and maybe Honest Outlaw, you can skip the other YT'ers for non-biased, relevant and safe content.
Thank you for the kind words I appreciate that! We will never conduct biased testing or showcase only the good or only the bad. We want to present our content in a factual, honest and easy to follow manner that shows you exactly what we did and how the firearm performed! No bias, no editing out the flyers just the facts so folks can make an educated decision for themselves. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment! --Jeremiah
That's a hefty single action at 5.3 lbs. It may not be fair, but my GP100 breaks at 2.75lbs SA, but has a little heavier DA at 9.5lbs to ensure adequate ignition with CCI primers. I had the DA as low as 7.25lbs, but it was Federal primers only.
Sadly this bench is a Konig Jager Super Bench and the company is no longer in business, they made an outstanding product but the cost was too high for the average consumer and they did not do a good job marketing their product. Very few of them exist today but if you can find a used one they are absolutely outstanding benches! Thank you for watching! --Jeremiah
I have one that is sadly back at Colt right now. It did not like CCI 500 small pistol primers at all in double action. Several light primer strikes every cylinder. I have never had any other gun have issue with these primers. My double action pull was in the low 7lb range with a few sometimes coming in 6lb range. Hope they get it squared away for me because other than that I was loving the thing. Beautiful guns and mine was a tack driver too.
That is very interesting and good to know I really appreciate you taking the time to comment and let us know about that I too was using CCI 500 and CCI 550 primers throughout our testing. I am glad that they are taking care of you and I would be very curious to see how the gun performs after you get it back. --Jeremiah
@@HandloaderTV Finger's crossed it comes back 100%. I'm sure it will. Never had a problem with any other Colt I own and I have faith on them. It is one sweet shooting revolver too. Quickly became a favorite.
@@johnhammer2982 I certainly hope so. The accuracy of the gun really did impress me and the overall quality seems to be pretty good based on what we saw. Hopefully yours comes back better than ever and you have no further issues! --Jeremiah
@@joeruiz4010 sadly still not %100 since I've received it back. Still finicky with CCI primers??? Maybe %80 reliable in double action? Can't try other primers because of shortages. Been %100 reliable with factory ammo, but as a reloader it's been frustrating.
Make sure you get a 0.05" Allen key (not provided) and lock down the sight screws, front and rear. If the rear locking screw falls out due to recoil, you won't find it, it's a nightmare to replace, and your rear sight will float around all over the place.
A very good point! After spending some time with the revolver and adjusting the sights for longer range I have noticed that very thing. If you are shooting stout loads that little screw can come loose over time and your sight can drift. Of course you don't want to over-tighten it either. Thanks for adding that and taking the time to watch and comment! --Jeremiah
The physics of a revolver are so interesting. Because the cylinder has a gap to the forcing cone. You have these escape pressures, gases and propellant. You want a smooth acceleration otherwise the bore will wear near the forcing cone. Crimping a bullet is great but that generates more pressure before the bullet accelerates. Which means the bullet is destabilized, shocked or accelerating too much before it meets the bore. The pressure then in the chamber will push powder out of the cylinder gap. As it meets air. The powder there simultaneously combusts. Resisting the unburnt powder still in the cylinder. As the bullet accelerates then. The acting forces are less smooth. So while a crimped bullet works well. The python has a slightly sloped barrel to compensate for the gas that escapes the cylinder gap. Crimping has no real calculation. It just adds friction to the bullet to burn more propellent from the primer before acceleration occurs. Which is fine for shorter barrels. But ideally you would have a pressure that allows the space of the cylinder gap and the pressure generated to accelerated burn of the propellant with the acceleration of the bullet by the volume of the barrel. You want powder to chase the bullet and accelerate smoothly with as little pressure causing these issues. How? I have a few ideas but even explaining this. People could revolutionize propellant
I am a little confused by your comment, answering this as best as I can. The bullet is in no way destabilized from the amount of crimp applied. I also fail to see how powder could get ahead of a correctly constructed bullet so I think that would make you point null and void in this case as I understand it. As far as the powder combusting when it meets the air or unburnt powder residue in the forcing cone igniting would happen regardless of crimp applied. Now if you are attempting to match the burn rate of the powder to the barrel length I agree that is critical to accuracy and a very important consideration to make when selecting your loads this will generally lead to accuracy. However as I stated I am a little confused by your statement and I fail to see how you could revolutionize propellant with this idea as matching burn rates and speed has already been done heavily and tested thoroughly. At any rate I appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment! --Jeremiah
@@nunyabussiness4054 We are all here to learn and I learn something every time I do these videos, so I try and approach every comment with that same mindset and be as polite as possible. It usually works well and folks wind up learning even more! --Jeremiah
We typically fire fouling shots after cleaning the gun so that way the bullets are not traveling down a bare, clean, spotless barrel. I have found that after cleaning it can take a few rounds for the accuracy of the gun to settle back down so we fire fouling shots to simply foul the barrel up a little bit before going back to our accuracy testing. It helps keep things consistent. Great question and thank you for taking the time to watch and comment! --Jeremiah
Would you consider doing something on powder coated bullets? Load data is very difficult to come by, but I believe casting bullets has become more popular as bullet prices have doubled and tripled, along with powder coating. Just a thought.
I have shot some powder coated bullets in the past in the FN 509 video I honestly use the same load data as regular cast bullets and I have yet to encounter a problem when it comes to pressures when using correctly sized bullets. I do plan on doing a video on how to cast your own bullets and I think a perfect follow up would be on how to powder coat your cast bullets. Thank you so much for taking the time to comment and watch the feedback is always appreciated! --Jeremiah
I have all the new Colts.. I love everything about the python except how heavy the trigger Pole is on single action 6 pounds is way too much for a $1500 pistol.. The Colt Anaconda the triggers absolutely phenomenal double action and single action !!! The trigger on the Colt king Cobra absolutely fabulous.. Yes these guns are produced on a CNC machine they have much tighter tolerances than the old Snake guns these are better guns Hands down !!! I did get a chance to handle an old Colt python the lock up was tight and a trigger was twice as good as the new one.. But if I had to pick between an old Colt python and a new Colt python I would pick the new one !!! The new cold python's a better gun I keep it stock.. I don't want to do a trigger job on it unless I send it back to the Colt factory for one.. These guns come with a pedigree and Colt keeps track of everything that's done to it... So I do not dare let Bubba gunsmith touch it !!!! 😎🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍⚡️
This one feels a little bit much for single action as well at 5 lbs and 5 oz. but it's tolerable, slicking up the triggers on these guys is no easy thing to do either. I really appreciate you taking the time to share your personal experience with these guns. I only get a sample size of 1 so sometimes it is tough to get a good feel for an entire product line based off of that. I feel you adding your experience to the comments sections brings a lot of value here so thank you for taking the time to watch and comment! --Jeremiah
We are actually working on Posting it to our loaddata . com website as I type this comment it is usually up within a day of posting the video but we have run into some delays. Mostly because I was out of the office hunting so you have my apologies! Thank you for watching and keep an eye out for the Load data to be posted soon! There is also the target review towards the end of the video where we show the best loads we got out of all of the loads we tried. Thank you for watching! --Jeremiah
Hi, Jeremiah! I wonder is there any velocity losses in Python 2020 relatively to RugerGP100, smithwessons of other revolvers? there was old info, maybe you heard it, that old Pythons are the slowest 357 revolvers regarding to what exactly nobody knows(maybe cylinder gap, maybe special twist rate, maybe barrel narrowing) can you shed some light on this rumor?
To be honest I had not heard of this before but in comparing velocities with similar length barreled .357 magnums I don't really see anything that is too abnormal with a quick glance over my data and other loading manuals. I wish I could offer more insight on this subject but sadly I am just not familiar with this issue. I do know that twist rate, bore diameter and cylinder gap can certainly have an effect along with tapered barrels. Sorry I could not shed more light on the subject! Thank you for watching though and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah
Excellent video on my favorite cartridge! I don't have a Python, but I do have four revolvers and a lever action rifle chambered for .357 magnum. I am a subscriber to your magazine and would encourage anyone interested in reloading to check it out.
Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment the feedback is always appreciated!! Thank you for subscribing to the magazine! It is because of good folks like you that we are able to produce videos like this and we greatly appreciate your recommendations. It really helps us grow and reach more people. --Jeremiah
That is actually my chronograph the Oehler model 35P has a printer that prints all my velocity so that I don't have to write it down and that is the noise you are hearing after every shot! Thanks for watching! --Jeremiah
Great question, while they are somewhat similar in terms of appropriate applications they are definitely not interchangeable. Alliant 2400 is a short cut extruded powder and Accurate No. 9 is a ball powder and is cleaner than 2400. It is easy to find correlation in charge weights between cartridges and sometimes they are scary how similar they can be in a specific cartridge and how different in others. Accurate 2230 and RAMSHOT X-Terminator in the .204 Ruger is a prime example of this. Thanks for the question and taking the time to watch and comment! --Jeremiah
That is interesting, I would suggest sending it back to Colt, I have not heard anything bad about their return and repair process other than it is slower than what most people like. It is my understanding though that they are fixing the guns free of charge. I have had a couple of folks, two now I think that have mentioned that. Our gun is still working well with over 600 rounds through it at this point. I think perhaps there were a few sent out with light springs or something of that nature. I wish you the best of luck and I hope that your issue gets taken care of. Please keep us in the loop on how it goes! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah
We conduct all of our load development at 15 yards for handguns for the videos, sometimes it makes the groups a little tighter but that is actually the distance that Ransom International recommends you begin testing at. It also make all of our videos directly comparable to one another, we keep our testing as consistent as possible for that reason. If there was enough interest we would be happy to revisit this at 25, 50 or even 100 yards and do long range testing. However at this point I think only 2 or 3 people have even mentioned it. If there was enough interest I would be happy to shoot it at further distances. In regards to all guns shooting good at 15 yards I would have to disagree, I had a 327 Federal that would not keep consistent groups at 15 yards. Distance is relative as is accuracy you just have to understand that relativity and it all comes together. We appreciate the feedback though and want to thank you for taking the time to watch and comment! --Jeremiah
@@HandloaderTV I understand. I used to shoot bullseye and x ring accuracy at 50 yards was what you expected out of a pistol. I know most are more interested in watching soda bottles explode 7 yards out and that’s ok too.
@@Jp-mn1rq Indeed, Bullseye is an extremely competitive sport and certainly requires a lot of skill. I think once we work up a good load it may be fun to take it out to 50 yards and put 10 rounds through the Ransom Rest and see how a good load does at distance. Maybe we should just try it and see how many folks watch it. Indeed there is a lot of interest in exploding targets and less scientific testing, real world testing. That is okay it would be nice if there was more interest in both though. At any rate thank you for watching we greatly appreciate it! --Jeremiah
My new Colt Python don't like CCI primers in DA. I get light strikes about every 8-12 rounds. Other primers seem OK. The gun has been back to Colt and returned the same way. They claim I should use only fresh new factory ammo? All I seem to be able to get is CCI primers lately so it's a bit disconcerting. My Ruger's and S&W's all work fine with them. Have others had a similar experience?
That is certainly not normal and should not happen, I was running CCI 500 and 550 primers throughout testing and never experienced any issues. I was using quality components and properly assembled loads. I would check it against some factory ammo such as Blazer Brass, CCI and maybe even Federal. I know Blazer Brass uses CCI primers in their factory ammo, if it won't work with that you know it is the gun. If it does work then there is something else going on perhaps your primers are seated too deep in worn out primer pockets etc. However I have a feeling it's the gun and not your loads but it is always good to double check and then perhaps you can get them to fix the revolver for you. I have heard of a couple of the early guns having some issues but a lot of folks were saying it was user error and it's been fixed now. --Jeremiah
The firing pin projects somewhat less than that of other revolvers I have, and I have many. The mainspring seems light but it's the up graded Colt replacement. These are obvious things I would have expected the factory technician to have noticed when I returned the gun for inspection. Maybe the batch of CCI primers I bought are a little hard but they do work in all my Ruger's, S&W's and one older Python reliably. Even my little 642 eats them up. Remington and Federal factory ammo seems to pop OK in the 2020 Python. I hate having an ammo sensitive gun, but I've heard that others have had the same problem.
@@samwalker7821 I have heard of some folks having issues with the Python, I have not had any issues with mine and currently it has over 1,000 rounds through it and has been at my side while attending several Gunsite classes. I would perhaps double check your brass and ensure that your primers are not being seated more than .003" below flush perhaps your primers are seated too deep or brass is worn out if it's firing fine in factory ammo. I don't like the idea of having an ammo sensitive gun either. I hate that others have experienced issues and I have not too it would be nice to get to the bottom of this once and for all and either confirm or deny these claims. I know a lot of folks I respect really like the new Pythons, Gunsite instructors, Ken Hackathorn and others. I hope you can get your issues figured out! --Jeremiah
Great question, with most double action revolvers it is pretty common the important thing is that when the cylinder is locked in place and ready to fire it should have little to no movement but while it is released and swung out it's fairly common to have some amount of play. Thanks for watching and taking the time to watch and comment! --Jeremiah
Did Colt ever think about reinstating the Anaconda, like they did with the Python, because the Anaconda is chambered in .44 Magnum it can also shoot the .44 Special Cartridge.
To be honest with you I don't know, I have not heard anything either way. I would certainly hope so in the near future but it is hard to say given that the Python introduction was a bit choppy. Thanks for watching and great question! --Jeremiah
@@joeruiz4010 I just read a thing that the Colt Python was the #1 selling revolver on gunbroker, in spite of the rocky release it seems to be doing well. I am dying to get my hands on an Anaconda currently hopefully one day! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah
Cz signed a strategic partnership with colt, didn't buy them. It means they trade off manufacturing processes. Some colt stuff made in cz factories and vice versa.
I have heard that from multiple people just saying that but sadly that is just an forum rumor or something of that nature and it's not true. CZ purchased Colt and owns 100% of the Colt Stock that was previously privately held. I will paste a couple of links for your reference. I don't like internet rumors or misinformation, we take great pride in trying to get the story correct and provide honest and reliable information to our viewers. Hopefully we can squash that rumor as it's simply not true. Thank you for watching and taking the time to watch and comment! --Jeremiah www.reuters.com/world/europe/czech-gunmaker-bets-riding-colt-into-new-markets-2021-09-13/ News article www.colt.com/news/3303 straight from the horses mouth.
That is a great question and we do have plans to shoot 38 Special in a 357 Magnum and do a video dedicated to that topic alone. As far as the 6 rounds go that is a great question. The main reason we do so is the same reason we shoot at 15 yards. It keeps our videos consistent and directly comparable to each other. While shooting we are careful to check the diameter of all cylinders using pin/plug gauges and ensure they are all within spec and we mark each cylinder 1-6 and ensure to rotate through all of them in a consistent manner throughout testing. 5 rounds has been our standard for video testing just simply for time and consistency sake. Great question and thank you so much for taking the time to watch and comment! --Jeremiah
That would be really cool if they did make a blued version, they really are great guns I was quite impressed with this one especially with all of the negativity on the internet about them. Thank you for watching! --Jeremiah
If there is enough interest I would be happy to take these firearms and test the better loads we worked up at 25-100 yards. The main reason why we test at 15 is it is an easy distance to work with camera wise and we start testing all firearms at 15 yards. So each test is directly comparable to other tests. It also allows us to revisit these firearms with good loads and test them at 25, 50 or even 100 yards if there is enough interest. Oddly enough I think I have only had 2 maybe 3 requests to push the distance further. At any rate thank you for the suggestion the feedback is always appreciated. We try to listen to the audience as much as possible and are always looking to improve our tests and presentation. --Jeremiah
@@HandloaderTV 15 yards isn't appropriate for accuracy testing of a full-size handgun. 50 yards is what separates the good guns from great guns IMO thats where bullseye competition shooting is done. thanks for responding
@@customhandguns It can be difficult 15 yards you can be splitting hairs between handguns and many of these are certainly capable of grouping at 50 yards. The main reason we do it is so that our videos are all directly comparable from the .380 Auto to the .454 Casull they can be compared at the same distance and you can certainly see the differences between the two. Even Ransom international recommends testing the guns at 15 yards to start. I would personally love to stretch the legs on some of these guns out to 50 and even 100 yards. I also know a good group at 15 will be a good group at 50 comparatively there has been extensive testing done to prove that. I do appreciate the feedback though and if there is enough interest I would not hesitate to film some of these guns performance at 50 yards and beyond. No problem I always want to take the time to respond so folks know why we do what we do or if they have any questions. We are always looking to improve, thank you for the feedback it is always appreciated! --Jeremiah
@@HandloaderTV I don't think it's appropriate to compare a .380 with a 454 Casull-they are intended for different things. The NRA tests subcompact and short-barreled and blowback handguns at shorter ranges than full-size guns for this reason. .. without seeing raw data on 15-yard accuracy equating to 50-yard accuracy I have to say I would have to see it to believe it. It's why we shoot rifles at 100 yards and not 25. I am impressed you are shooting the targets, just not the methodology.
@@customhandguns No it's probably not but but, It makes all of our testing equal, you see what each gun does at 15 yards as a standard. I know a lot of our writers test handguns at 25 yards as a standard as well. I just try to keep things simple for the videos. However I am thinking after chatting with you perhaps I should really look into stretching the legs on some of these guns. I have seen some tests conducted probably the most notable is from Brian Litz, I will paste a link to his Instagram post on the subject at the end of this comment I think you will find it most interesting! There is a method to my madness though, it may not seem like it but at 15 yards the group sizes change may be more minor than at 25 or 50 but they are all relative just as accuracy is a relative term. You also have less environmental factors creating larger variables at 15 yards. It is easier to film at that distance and the accuracy translates well to 25 and 50 yards. In addition to all of that it creates an entry level for working up good loads. I have found a good load at 15 will generally produce good groups at 50 or even 100 yards if I do my part. In addition to that when I am doing the shooting it takes a little bit more of the shooter/human error out of the equation. Sometimes I don't have time to have grip inserts made in time for our video production. So I admit it is not perfect but there is a reason behind it. And of course if enough folks are interested I would be more than happy to test loads at 50 or even 100 yards where appropriate. I appreciate that we can have a discussion like this it always provides a lot of food for thought on my end and it's always nice to know what others are thinking and what they want. --Jeremiah instagram.com/p/CdZRc_gLnFQ/? Instagram post from Brian litz about group size being the same at different distances. This is of course with a rifle but I feel the same would apply with a handgun as well.
Interesting presentation for loading and shooting ammo out of the revolver but I have two points of contention. First no lead bullets why not? The second is why are you doing accuracy tests on a precision revolver at 15 Yards? This revolver should be accuracy tested at a minimum 25 yards and as a hunting arm 50 yards should be used.
I will do my best to address those concerns and answer your questions. We did in fact test lead or cast bullets if you watch the target review you'll see that loads 4 and 5 in the target review are both lead or cast bullets. The Hornady Frontier bullet is a swagged lead projectile and the Rim Rock LBT-WFN is a cast bullet. I usually do not have enough time to cast up my own projectiles for these tests but on occasion I will also cast my own and test them as well. The reason for the close range is 2 fold, it was the distance we originally picked to make all of our videos directly comparable to each other all firearms handguns are tested at 15 yards. Hindsight being 20/20 I probably should have picked 25 yards. However, when we first started I was not confident enough to print half inch groups at 25 yards even if the pistol was capable of doing so. We did not have the Ransom rest back then. I did not want the shooter to become the limiting factor to the accuracy of the gun. So I settled on 15 yards at which myself is fully capable of holding small groups at. Since all groups would be shot at that distance all of our group sizes are directly comparable from video to video. It also opens up the option to do more testing with these guns at 25 yards and beyond. We wanted to test the capability of the gun and not the shooter. Hopefully moving forward if we can begin to revisit some of these guns and stretch out the ranges provided enough people are interested. Thanks for watching and I hope this answers your questions. If you have any further questions don't hesitate to ask! --Jeremiah
And here all this time I thought that my sense of humor was too dry ha ha! I am glad that you found the video informative and I want to thank you for taking the time to watch and comment the feedback is always appreciated! --Jeremiah
The question about the "New" Colt Python that seems to be a big secret is: Who makes it and in which country. Yes, it's Colt branded, but I don't think it's made in Connecticut or anywhere in the USA.
From everything I have read and researched so far everything indicates that the New Colt Pythons are made in Connecticut in the united states. They are not outsourcing production, especially not outside the USA quite frankly that would be extremely easy to tell based off the the proof marks that would have to be added to the firearm. I don't know where you have heard that but It simply is not true and there is no "big secret". --Jeremiah
@@HandloaderTV Hello and Thank you for the information. I can find no published data on where the new Python is made. If you have the time and can share a published article or advertisement/statement by Colt of where the pistol is produced, that would be much appreciated. I'd like to put it back on my "Must Have" list.
@@damselnoir5905 A simple google search reveals that the new Python revolvers are made in Hartford, Connecticut. It is also stamped on the actual firearm itself and has no foreign proof marks or importation marks stamped on the gun so I have no reason to doubt that it is made in Hartford, Connecticut which is stamped on our new Colt Python. I hope that helps you out and makes sense if you have any further questions don't hesitate to reach out! --Jeremiah
No worries, questions are always welcome I already answered your first one so you can disregards that. We always appreciate the feedback and you taking the time to watch and comment! --Jeremiah
That hat means a lot to me, it's actually a Cavender's and I have to respectfully disagree with you on it correlating in any way shape or form to the flying nun. No pun intended. The video is about the gun though and not me or what I wear, it's not as common to see these days sadly but it still exists in some parts of this great nation. At any rate thank you for watching and taking the time to comment. --Jeremiah
I’ve seen so many reviews about the new python, that I’m 100% convinced that is a great and the most beautiful revolver.
I have taken this one and run it several times at Gunsite since this video and it has yet to have an issue other than some powder fouling under the ejector star which is a common problem when you are speed loading and shooting 500 rounds in a day or two. Overall I am very impressed with the new Colt Python and wouldn't hesitate to recommend one for self defense or otherwise. Thanks for watching and for the feedback! --Jeremiah
I bought one of these a couple years ago. Several TH-cam dudes did nothing but trash the gun eight ways from Sunday; mostly based on nothing more than what they read here online. That just made me want one even more, at less than $5,000 too by the way.
I am thrilled with mine. It functions like a Swiss watch and at a mere fraction of the cost of one of the original Pythons. Glad to hear your fair assessment of this iconic revolver.👍🏿
There was a lot of controversy over these guns, saying they had bad hands, bad triggers you name it. I watched many of those videos as well and I thought that people deserved an unbiased and honest review of the revolvers. Now some of them may have had issues we have only tested two of these guns so far one by me and one by Brian one of our writers. Neither one of us had any issues and I hear if anyone does have issues Colt is taking good care of their customers. We do our best to showcase the gun in an unbiased and opinionated light. We shot it and it functioned just fine for us and we rode it pretty hard and put it up wet a few times.
It is nice to hear the experience of another Colt Python owner and hear that you have not had any issues with yours. I really appreciate the kind words and you taking the time to watch the video and comment! --Jeremiah
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I have really enjoyed the postings here from Handloader TV. Sharing your knowledge of all things gun and shooting related, is very much appreciated. Like I said in another post, you have my attention. Keep 'em comin'!
On the matter of the new Python, any mass produced product is going to have a flaw or flaws somewhere along the line of processing. Anyone who's ever purchased a new car can attest to that; and they cost a hellava lot more than Colt Pythons.
But what really matters is how the manufacturer responds to the customer dissatisfaction. Before many of these revolvers were actually field tested to any significant degree, the trashing of the gun and Colt began. Don't recall any new rollout so mercilessly dumped on. Like you say, they have responded favorably despite the trolls.
In any event, to each his own. But this septuagenarian is quite happy with his. Thx agn!
Yup they sure did trash it but I bought the 4.25 Python and it is a beautiful firearm.
And I bet 99.9% of the people who trashed the new python never held one in their hands let alone fire one. And the people who did have issues with the 1st batch Colt fixed them. Yeah the new python is the only gun to have an issue.
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...You'd certainly think so by all the vitriol directed at it specifically, and Colt in general.
Awesome video Jeremiah and thank you for putting it all together for us to watch. Enjoyed it very much and looking forward to the next. Thanks, Slim.
you are most welcome as always thank you for taking the time to watch we really appreciate it and had a lot of fun putting this together for everyone to view! --Jeremiah
I sure want to have a Ransom Rest. 40 some years ago when I first started reloading and testing load accuracy I shot with my own skill which introduced so much human errors and wasted a lots of ammo. Your load development, data, and test setup were so scientific and professional you could really fine tune any load to any particular gun for any specific need such as practice, target, self defense, and hunting. Great video.
The Ransom Rest has been a great asset here on the channel for testing it saves us a lot of time and components as well. It is amazing how much human error there is when it comes to shooting and how much shooter fatigue plays a factor. We really appreciate the kind words and the feedback it is always appreciated. It makes my day to hear comments like yours! We hope that others appreciated the knowledge shared. Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment! --Jeremiah
The New Python and Original Python are both spectacular handguns, but in totally different ways. Colt put 30% more metal into the design of the New Python and can clearly tell the difference in the hammer, trigger, and other internals. The New Python is an incredibly strong, but extremely well-balanced and accurate handgun. I can shoot Buffalo Bore Heavy 357 (1,500fps and 899 ft. lbs) and it handles it effortlessly in the 6" barrel option. I don't think you could ever wear this gun out.
That is a very good point while the ascetics are quite similar they are different and the new one is certainly more robustly built. Thank you for watching and for taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah
Just bought the 6 inch, shot like a dream!!
That is great to hear I am very interested in how these guns are performing for others especially given how many folks have completely bashed the New Colt Python over how many issues they've had. So it is very interesting to hear what others are saying about their own experiences with these guns. This one seemed to be a real shooter! --Jeremiah
Haven’t read any other comments. But it’s very apparent that know your stuff. Really impressed and informative demo. Yay.
Thank you very much for the kind words I really appreciate that! A lot of studying and reading goes into making each of these videos and even more testing so I am glad that comes through on camera! Thank you for watching! --Jeremiah
First time I have watched this channel. Impressed, very well done very professional!
I own 2020 Python with the 4.125 barrel. Well made and accurate & hopefully I will get continued durability out of it.
I ordered the 3 inch Python 2 weeks ago and can see the 6 inch in my future.
I mostly feed my Python a diet of 158 grain LSWC under 6 grains of Unique with WLP primers.
Really like that 180 grain load of yours!
Let me be the first to welcome you to the channel and thank you for taking the time to watch and comment, the feedback is always appreciated! That is really great to hear that you are having success with you Pythons it is always nice to know what other folks are shooting and loading so thank you for sharing that as well. I really think that is what the comments section is all about! I like that 180 grain load as well! It was quite impressive! Thanks again and good shooting and happy handloading! --Jeremiah
Love the video and great lessons. I started reloading my own cartridges using H110 and SPM your video helped my confidence. On a side note I have the 4" new Python and my 586 speedloaders work great with the Colt.
Thank you for the kind words and the feedback on the videos, it is greatly appreciated!! That is what we are all about providing good accurate information on a subject that is full of misinformation. The fact that it helps others get into it and get started makes our day! That is really good to know I appreciate the heads up and I will be giving that a try thank you! --Jeremiah
great explanation on the use of Magnum Primers and Heavy crimp using the H110 and lil Gun powders instead of Standard Primers... thank you sir!
Thank you very much a lot of folks do not understand that or how it works, and incorrectly use magnum primers in everything and are therefore leaving a lot of performance on the table. Thank you for taking the time to watch! --Jeremiah
Nice work Jeremiah. That bench you have set up ensures a reliable test for accuracy. It also helps that you used an amazing press with that Redding Turret!
Always nice to see you in the comments section! The bench has really been a huge help for accuracy testing and the equipment we use certainly makes a difference as well! Thank you for watching! --Jeremiah
Nice video, very well presented and good data. Well done.
Thank you very much the feedback is greatly appreciated! --Jeremiah
GREAT VIDEO,I CAN'T WAIT TO GET MY PYTHON!!
Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment we are glad to hear you enjoyed the video! --Jeremiah
That Colt shoots very very well with pretty much every load you put thru it on this video. Load #1, 3 and that 180gr load was exceptionally accurate. I never pay much attention to the internet experts. I use the term just to be polite. I am in the market for a 357 and this Colt just might get the nod. Powder and Primers are still in short supply where I live.
I must admit I was very impressed with the results we got with this Colt. I am surprised at how many people jumped all over these Pythons saying how terrible they were but to be honest I did not see that at all. There may have been a few bad ones early on but I think most of them were fixed before they ever left the factory. You are not alone there, I have not seen primers locally on the shelf for about 2 years now. I did hear that some Shotgun primers were at our local sportsman's warehouse but I personally never saw them. Thank you so much for taking the time to watch the video and comment we really appreciate it! --Jeremiah
Jeremiah one again you have brought a very informative video to the subscribers, a real home run. Those were some great loads in your Python, it does my heart good to see the Snake line up back in production . I won’t be running out and getting a new Python, I still have my Colt Trooper MKIII 4 inch. But I will be trying 3 of your loads, keep up the great work 👍🏾
A 4in Trooper MKIII was my first handgun and is currently retired. My current go to .357 is my 686.
The Trooper MKIII are some beefy revolver’s. Currently working on my S&W 586 6 inch.
@@VitoBb1978 Thank you so much for the kind words and taking the time to watch the video and comment! I agree with you it is nice to see the Python back again! I don't blame you those Colt Troopers are nice guns and a whole lot of fun to shoot and load for! Thanks again. --Jeremiah
@@HandloaderTV the pleasure was all mine, keep up the great work 👍🏾
@@VitoBb1978 We will certainly keep the videos coming! --Jeremiah
Thanks posting a new Python video for those of us here in Ca. who are enduring our 10 day wait...:)
Ha Ha you are most welcome, I am sure the anticipation is building! Thank you for watching! --Jeremiah
Great video. Just found you. I love the .357 cartridge and just got a new Python with 4.25 bbl. Grail gun for me. I handload for a .357 Henry and it’s a darling of a shooter. Thanks for the info!
Thank you very much, we appreciate the kind words. I love the .357 Mag in a lever action and would love to do a video on that at some point as well. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah
Hi Jeremiah! Really enjoyed the video showing the loads you worked up as the .357 Magnum is one of my most favorite cartridges to load and mostly because of its extreme versatility. I have many .357’s presently: a S&W Mod 27 4” blued revolver with a nice big Hogue custom grip, a Taurus Titanium Tracker 7 shooter 6”, a circa 1967 Colt Trooper 1st Model 6” thats chromed and has gold trigger/hammer/cyl release,
A Ruger SP101 2”, a new Kimber K6S 2”, and a Coonan semi-automatic Classic 5” in Stainless. I’ve found super accurate loads with all of these guns and not all at maximum loadings. Been thinking of getting both a new Colt Python probly a 4”, and quite possibly an older Colt classic 4” Python that’s in the Royal Blue finish, in as good a shape as I can find. I know it won’t be cheap, but I’m willing to pay for what I want. Q: Do you think it would be worth it to have a really good gunsmith slick up the action a little on both guns? Pls keep these vids going.
Thank you so much for the kind words and the feedback it is greatly appreciated! It really is an extremely versatile cartridge and there are quite a few excellent firearms chambered in such cartridge. I appreciate you taking the time to share your experience here in the comments section with others.
To be honest there are not very many good gunsmiths that know how to work on the Colt Pythons as I am sure you are aware of they are a little different kind of animal. I would suggest speaking with Dave Fink of Finks Custom gunsmithing. He has done outstanding work for us in the past and I know he does have experience with the Colt Pythons as well. He is the resident gunsmith for Gunsite academy as well. Thanks for watching! --Jeremiah
Awesome channel I bought everything for reloading I just haven't had time and a place to set it all up at I've had it all for years for over 5 years brand new still in the Box..
Thank you very much for the kind words commenting your experience in your previous comment and providing us with feedback. It is always nice to hear from the viewers! Well perhaps we can provide you with the motivation and information you need to get started! If you have any questions don't hesitate to leave us a comment, we also have a reloading 101 video that should be enough to get you started and cover most of the basics to handloading. --Jeremiah
My go to powder for heavy .357 loads is 296/H110. Been using those two for 40yrs.
I do love W-296/H-110 both are great powders I have had great results with them over the years! Thank you for watching!! --Jeremiah
@@SWR1-1 2400 is a fantastic powder and I love it as well not only in the .357 magnum but in many many other cartridges as well! Thanks for watching and taking the time to share your experience! --Jeremiah
This video is a goldmine! I don't even reload but I want to now, just not enough variety in what I can find in stores these days
Thank you very much, we have recently started shooting more factory ammunition as well for those that don't handload, it is a fun and enjoyable hobby and I spend a lot of time doing it. Although full disclosure I may be a little bit biased. I do enjoy the variety of loads out there and how much more you can shoot though. Thanks for the kind words and taking the time to watch! --Jeremiah
I like the "M" die for exapanding since it creates a 'socket' instead of a flare.
Those Lyman M dies are nice too, I have used them with success in the past as well. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment! --Jeremiah
Big fan of the 357 Mag. It was the first revolver cartridge I learned to shoot when I was just a young fellow out of a Ruger Security Six. Now about 40 years later still running two 357 Mag 686 revolvers and a Winchester 1873 in 357 Mag. Some spectacular results there! As others have said, be great to see you run those in a lever gun. That’s a hint …. 😉
First off, thank you so much for watching and for the feedback and sharing your experience it is greatly appreciated. I too love the .357 Magnum cartridge and it's nice to have so many options to shoot it through. I would love to cover the .357 mag in a lever action at some point in the near future I think that would be a spectacular idea! --Jeremiah
Nice tips thank you
You are most welcome! Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment! --Jeremiah
Awesome video! Would be cool to see a new Korth Mongoose, Manurhin MR73, or BFR in 454 to compare to the FA. Thanks again for your contributions!
Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment, I would love to get my hands on a BFR in .454 Casull and maybe even a Ruger as well I think that would be very interesting! I am not opposed to testing any guns out it is simply a matter of time, money, and if we can get our hands on a particular firearm. Thanks again for watching! --Jeremiah
Excellent video. I have the 3” version of this Python. It’s the only revolver I own that begs to be shot in DA mode only.
Indeed, the double action pull weight of the revolver is outstanding and has no stack. An enjoyable revolver to shoot and that is coming from a man who regularly carries a Smith. Thanks for watching and sharing your experience! --Jeremiah
Kudos to your videographer, as usual, and to your ability to smoothly narrate the video. The .357 has been a favorite for many years. I shoot an older S&W model 27 and more recently a Marlin 1894. Also added a Savage model 24v in .357 over 20 gauge. I heard or read that the .357 mag displaced the Colt
Walker as the most powerful handgun (many years apart, of course). To your knowledge, is this true or just hearsay ?
That would be our Art Director Chris Downs, while he is never on camera these videos would not be possible without him he does a fantastic job catching everything on film and editing out my stuttering and making a very clean easy to watch video! Thank you for taking the time to share your experience with everyone in the comments section. To my knowledge the Colt Walker was introduced around 1846 and the .357 magnum was introduced around 1935 so you are talking quite a large time gap between the two and in between you have around 1873 the 45 Colt coming into production as well which in my opinion was more powerful than the Colt walker but I suppose that depends on your definition of power as well. I would say that is just hearsay though and I would be hesitant to believe that claim. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah
Great video. I also have had good results with Power Pistol in 357mg. A pleasant surprise as it's not what I bought the powder for :-)
Power Pistol is really a great powder, I have had good results with it in 9mm, 45 ACP and .357 mag among other cartridges as well. I don't think you can go wrong with Power Pistol. Thank you so much for watching! --Jeremiah
I just recently came across this channel and I’ve watched several of these videos and was wondering if you have or will be doing, a video on handloading the 30-06?
Thank you taking the time to watch the videos we appreciate it! I will be doing a video on the 30-06 it is on the short list for our load development videos and I hope to have ti done this year if everything goes well. I would also like to do a load development specifically for the M1 Garand as well. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah
Would you consider doing a video on the 6x45 , a great coyote cartridge ! Works great in ARs and bolt actions and very easy to reload ! Thanks for all your hard work !!!
I would always consider doing videos on cartridges we have not covered before the only limiting factor at this point is time and availability of components. However I would love to cover every cartridge out there and do load development videos on as much as I can. Thank you for the feedback and the suggestion they are always appreciated! --Jeremiah
Good job
Thank you very much the feedback is always appreciated!! --Jeremiah
I owned 5 old Pythons and they did develop problems with time. They were very nice in the day . But I liked the Trooper better. They didn't tend to develop those kinda of problems. I'm really tired of hearing that the old one's were hand built. With the new CNC manufacturing it is much more precise than the old hand manufacturing. I shot one of the new Pythons, and it seems to fire much better than the old ones . I hope they don't have the issues that the old ones did .
I actually got to speak with the former Gunsite gunsmith, and he said the same thing, even going as far as saying the originals could be knocked out of time by dropping them or having them beat up during a fight. I have not experienced that myself but I also have not subjected guns to severe duty use. Unless you count horseback trips into back country but I am still not rolling around on the ground with the gun. I honestly agree with you these new guns are very nice and honestly I think the triggers on the new ones have less stack than the stock original Pythons. I hope that the new ones are more durable and rugged than the old ones as well. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah
@@HandloaderTV you are exactly right about the stack on the trigger stack. I had problems with trigger springs. I do know people that had timing issues, but I personally didn't. I got mine second handed, the problem with the trigger springs was 2 of mine someone had cut the springs to lighten the trigger pull.
@@waynedavis7245 Yeah I haven't had any timing issues either but I am glad to hear that I am not alone with the trigger stack, I would be curious to check my springs and see if they have been cut. I appreciate the insight on that and to be honest the thought never even crossed my mind to check the length of the springs! I appreciate the insight. All the more reason I say we have the best comment section on TH-cam, it's a place where folks can come and learn! --Jeremiah
@@HandloaderTV it usually starts with light strikes when you are firing double action . The gun will usually fire fine when shooting single action.
@@waynedavis7245 That is very good to know, I haven't had any issues firing double action so perhaps my springs are still good then. It is something i'll certainly have to check out though. I appreciate the information! --Jeremiah
Great job. Got the 6 inch and agree about the trigger serrations, too aggressive after 4 or 5 cylinders of .357. Leaves imprint on finger and gets unpleasant to shoot. It's really not a upgrade or desired. Trigger pull is smooth but to heavy for me and there is stacking at the end, but slight.
That designer and his buddy who approved the rear sight afterthought should be fired.
Two different tools to adjust a rear sight, and sloppy fit in frame is just amature on a MSRP of 1499USD revolver.
That said it's great gun if you can swallow the cost.
Thank you very much! Indeed if it were up to me I would probably have those ground off or at the very least lightened. It is a small thing but it makes a difference. The trigger is definitely heavy on ours as well with a hint of stack as well but not nearly as bad as the original un-tuned Pythons.
I did not think of that aspect I usually have a tool bag filled with stuff for adjusting sights and what not. Needing two tools to adjust the sights could be an issue but then again so is a sight that drifts on you in the field. The fit and finish on our revolver was pretty good and did not have any noticeable slop. So it is interesting to hear your experiences with New Colt Python. They certainly aren't cheap but the prices that the original Pythons are going for are just plain insane so it is nice to have an alternative! Thank you so much for watching and taking the time to share your experience with others in the comments section I think that is what it is all about and I always enjoy hearing what others have to say and think! --Jeremiah
Agree with the rear sight gripes. I replaced mine with Harrison Customs. I feel like they just don't want to pay someone to handfit "oversized" rear sight blades in the factory. The .010" "oversized" harrison rear blade didn't even need lube to slide in, to me that means the factory blade is .010" undersized
I use 180 gr acc#9 for my ruger at I got close to the same great results!
I love accurate No. 9 I think it is a fantastic powder, It is always nice to hear that others are having similar results! Thanks for watching. -- Jeremiah
Just a suggestion. Better lighting and close ups on the bullet reloading for us old guys.
I appreciate the feedback, we were actually talking about getting better studio light and better close ups especially when crimping! I appreciate the suggestion! Thanks for watching! --Jeremiah
Just picked up a 6” model, fortunately I have plenty of primers and powder on hand, sure am ready for them to be back in plentiful supply, this shortage has been going on since 2009. I recall picking up a thousand primers before this all stated for $12.50. Then prices went to $25/1000. Nothing but crazy ever since.
Congratulations!! When you get some trigger time behind it you'll have to let us know how it does! If there is one thing this shortage has shown it's that you can't have enough components. It has been going on for a long time. 2009 was pretty bad, it got better for a few years and now it's as bad as I can ever remember it's really starting to effect what we can do and how quickly we can do it which is very disappointing. Hopefully things get better soon!! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah
@@HandloaderTV Flintlocks and homemade powder are becoming enticing. Lol.
@@tomallen6073 Indeed, I never thought i'd be saying that but times are tough!! I am hopeful it'll get better though! --Jeremiah
There's a new sheriff in town! Combined with Paul Harrell and maybe Honest Outlaw, you can skip the other YT'ers for non-biased, relevant and safe content.
Thank you for the kind words I appreciate that! We will never conduct biased testing or showcase only the good or only the bad. We want to present our content in a factual, honest and easy to follow manner that shows you exactly what we did and how the firearm performed! No bias, no editing out the flyers just the facts so folks can make an educated decision for themselves. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment! --Jeremiah
That's a hefty single action at 5.3 lbs. It may not be fair, but my GP100 breaks at 2.75lbs SA, but has a little heavier DA at 9.5lbs to ensure adequate ignition with CCI primers. I had the DA as low as 7.25lbs, but it was Federal primers only.
Where can we find information on the shooting bench used at the range in this video?
Sadly this bench is a Konig Jager Super Bench and the company is no longer in business, they made an outstanding product but the cost was too high for the average consumer and they did not do a good job marketing their product. Very few of them exist today but if you can find a used one they are absolutely outstanding benches! Thank you for watching! --Jeremiah
I have one that is sadly back at Colt right now. It did not like CCI 500 small pistol primers at all in double action. Several light primer strikes every cylinder. I have never had any other gun have issue with these primers. My double action pull was in the low 7lb range with a few sometimes coming in 6lb range. Hope they get it squared away for me because other than that I was loving the thing. Beautiful guns and mine was a tack driver too.
That is very interesting and good to know I really appreciate you taking the time to comment and let us know about that I too was using CCI 500 and CCI 550 primers throughout our testing. I am glad that they are taking care of you and I would be very curious to see how the gun performs after you get it back. --Jeremiah
@@HandloaderTV Finger's crossed it comes back 100%. I'm sure it will. Never had a problem with any other Colt I own and I have faith on them. It is one sweet shooting revolver too. Quickly became a favorite.
@@johnhammer2982 I certainly hope so. The accuracy of the gun really did impress me and the overall quality seems to be pretty good based on what we saw. Hopefully yours comes back better than ever and you have no further issues! --Jeremiah
@@johnhammer2982 How's your Python? All good.
@@joeruiz4010 sadly still not %100 since I've received it back. Still finicky with CCI primers??? Maybe %80 reliable in double action? Can't try other primers because of shortages. Been %100 reliable with factory ammo, but as a reloader it's been frustrating.
Make sure you get a 0.05" Allen key (not provided) and lock down the sight screws, front and rear. If the rear locking screw falls out due to recoil, you won't find it, it's a nightmare to replace, and your rear sight will float around all over the place.
A very good point! After spending some time with the revolver and adjusting the sights for longer range I have noticed that very thing. If you are shooting stout loads that little screw can come loose over time and your sight can drift. Of course you don't want to over-tighten it either. Thanks for adding that and taking the time to watch and comment! --Jeremiah
The physics of a revolver are so interesting. Because the cylinder has a gap to the forcing cone. You have these escape pressures, gases and propellant. You want a smooth acceleration otherwise the bore will wear near the forcing cone. Crimping a bullet is great but that generates more pressure before the bullet accelerates. Which means the bullet is destabilized, shocked or accelerating too much before it meets the bore. The pressure then in the chamber will push powder out of the cylinder gap. As it meets air. The powder there simultaneously combusts. Resisting the unburnt powder still in the cylinder. As the bullet accelerates then. The acting forces are less smooth.
So while a crimped bullet works well. The python has a slightly sloped barrel to compensate for the gas that escapes the cylinder gap. Crimping has no real calculation. It just adds friction to the bullet to burn more propellent from the primer before acceleration occurs. Which is fine for shorter barrels. But ideally you would have a pressure that allows the space of the cylinder gap and the pressure generated to accelerated burn of the propellant with the acceleration of the bullet by the volume of the barrel.
You want powder to chase the bullet and accelerate smoothly with as little pressure causing these issues. How? I have a few ideas but even explaining this. People could revolutionize propellant
I am a little confused by your comment, answering this as best as I can. The bullet is in no way destabilized from the amount of crimp applied. I also fail to see how powder could get ahead of a correctly constructed bullet so I think that would make you point null and void in this case as I understand it. As far as the powder combusting when it meets the air or unburnt powder residue in the forcing cone igniting would happen regardless of crimp applied. Now if you are attempting to match the burn rate of the powder to the barrel length I agree that is critical to accuracy and a very important consideration to make when selecting your loads this will generally lead to accuracy. However as I stated I am a little confused by your statement and I fail to see how you could revolutionize propellant with this idea as matching burn rates and speed has already been done heavily and tested thoroughly. At any rate I appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment! --Jeremiah
@@HandloaderTV That was a very polite way to tell him he doesn't know what the heck he is talking about.
@@nunyabussiness4054 We are all here to learn and I learn something every time I do these videos, so I try and approach every comment with that same mindset and be as polite as possible. It usually works well and folks wind up learning even more! --Jeremiah
what do you mean by firing fouling shots? Jacketed loads to help clear the leading from cast bullets?
We typically fire fouling shots after cleaning the gun so that way the bullets are not traveling down a bare, clean, spotless barrel. I have found that after cleaning it can take a few rounds for the accuracy of the gun to settle back down so we fire fouling shots to simply foul the barrel up a little bit before going back to our accuracy testing. It helps keep things consistent. Great question and thank you for taking the time to watch and comment! --Jeremiah
Would you consider doing something on powder coated bullets? Load data is very difficult to come by, but I believe casting bullets has become more popular as bullet prices have doubled and tripled, along with powder coating. Just a thought.
I have shot some powder coated bullets in the past in the FN 509 video I honestly use the same load data as regular cast bullets and I have yet to encounter a problem when it comes to pressures when using correctly sized bullets. I do plan on doing a video on how to cast your own bullets and I think a perfect follow up would be on how to powder coat your cast bullets. Thank you so much for taking the time to comment and watch the feedback is always appreciated! --Jeremiah
I have all the new Colts.. I love everything about the python except how heavy the trigger Pole is on single action 6 pounds is way too much for a $1500 pistol.. The Colt Anaconda the triggers absolutely phenomenal double action and single action !!! The trigger on the Colt king Cobra absolutely fabulous.. Yes these guns are produced on a CNC machine they have much tighter tolerances than the old Snake guns these are better guns Hands down !!! I did get a chance to handle an old Colt python the lock up was tight and a trigger was twice as good as the new one.. But if I had to pick between an old Colt python and a new Colt python I would pick the new one !!! The new cold python's a better gun I keep it stock.. I don't want to do a trigger job on it unless I send it back to the Colt factory for one.. These guns come with a pedigree and Colt keeps track of everything that's done to it... So I do not dare let Bubba gunsmith touch it !!!! 😎🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍⚡️
This one feels a little bit much for single action as well at 5 lbs and 5 oz. but it's tolerable, slicking up the triggers on these guys is no easy thing to do either. I really appreciate you taking the time to share your personal experience with these guns. I only get a sample size of 1 so sometimes it is tough to get a good feel for an entire product line based off of that. I feel you adding your experience to the comments sections brings a lot of value here so thank you for taking the time to watch and comment! --Jeremiah
Is the load data from this video posted somewhere?
We are actually working on Posting it to our loaddata . com website as I type this comment it is usually up within a day of posting the video but we have run into some delays. Mostly because I was out of the office hunting so you have my apologies! Thank you for watching and keep an eye out for the Load data to be posted soon! There is also the target review towards the end of the video where we show the best loads we got out of all of the loads we tried. Thank you for watching! --Jeremiah
Hi, Jeremiah! I wonder is there any velocity losses in Python 2020 relatively to RugerGP100, smithwessons of other revolvers?
there was old info, maybe you heard it, that old Pythons are the slowest 357 revolvers regarding to what exactly nobody knows(maybe cylinder gap, maybe special twist rate, maybe barrel narrowing)
can you shed some light on this rumor?
To be honest I had not heard of this before but in comparing velocities with similar length barreled .357 magnums I don't really see anything that is too abnormal with a quick glance over my data and other loading manuals. I wish I could offer more insight on this subject but sadly I am just not familiar with this issue. I do know that twist rate, bore diameter and cylinder gap can certainly have an effect along with tapered barrels. Sorry I could not shed more light on the subject! Thank you for watching though and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah
Excellent video on my favorite cartridge! I don't have a Python, but I do have four revolvers and a lever action rifle chambered for .357 magnum. I am a subscriber to your magazine and would encourage anyone interested in reloading to check it out.
Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment the feedback is always appreciated!! Thank you for subscribing to the magazine! It is because of good folks like you that we are able to produce videos like this and we greatly appreciate your recommendations. It really helps us grow and reach more people. --Jeremiah
Jeremiah, what is the noise heard after shooting in every video? It almost sounds like something rolling up on a roll…..
That is actually my chronograph the Oehler model 35P has a printer that prints all my velocity so that I don't have to write it down and that is the noise you are hearing after every shot! Thanks for watching! --Jeremiah
A9 with a heavy LBT. Definitely speaking my language.
I knew I had to do something with Accurate No. 9 and a heavy bullet! They go together so well in the .357 magnum. Thanks for watching! --Jeremiah
In your opinion is #9 interchangeable with 2400? I can't find any difference other than #9 is WAY cleaner shooting
Great question, while they are somewhat similar in terms of appropriate applications they are definitely not interchangeable. Alliant 2400 is a short cut extruded powder and Accurate No. 9 is a ball powder and is cleaner than 2400. It is easy to find correlation in charge weights between cartridges and sometimes they are scary how similar they can be in a specific cartridge and how different in others. Accurate 2230 and RAMSHOT X-Terminator in the .204 Ruger is a prime example of this. Thanks for the question and taking the time to watch and comment! --Jeremiah
So what your saying about durability,is not use the grips to tack up wanted posters, the colt single action would be better
I purchased th 6 inch. Worked great for 6 months now I get more light primer strikes idk, is it worth it
That is interesting, I would suggest sending it back to Colt, I have not heard anything bad about their return and repair process other than it is slower than what most people like. It is my understanding though that they are fixing the guns free of charge. I have had a couple of folks, two now I think that have mentioned that. Our gun is still working well with over 600 rounds through it at this point. I think perhaps there were a few sent out with light springs or something of that nature. I wish you the best of luck and I hope that your issue gets taken care of. Please keep us in the loop on how it goes! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah
All that space and it’s set up a 15 yards. Fifty yards is where you test with a R.R.
All guns shoot good at 15 yards
We conduct all of our load development at 15 yards for handguns for the videos, sometimes it makes the groups a little tighter but that is actually the distance that Ransom International recommends you begin testing at. It also make all of our videos directly comparable to one another, we keep our testing as consistent as possible for that reason. If there was enough interest we would be happy to revisit this at 25, 50 or even 100 yards and do long range testing. However at this point I think only 2 or 3 people have even mentioned it. If there was enough interest I would be happy to shoot it at further distances.
In regards to all guns shooting good at 15 yards I would have to disagree, I had a 327 Federal that would not keep consistent groups at 15 yards. Distance is relative as is accuracy you just have to understand that relativity and it all comes together. We appreciate the feedback though and want to thank you for taking the time to watch and comment! --Jeremiah
@@HandloaderTV I understand. I used to shoot bullseye and x ring accuracy at 50 yards was what you expected out of a pistol. I know most are more interested in watching soda bottles explode 7 yards out and that’s ok too.
@@Jp-mn1rq Indeed, Bullseye is an extremely competitive sport and certainly requires a lot of skill. I think once we work up a good load it may be fun to take it out to 50 yards and put 10 rounds through the Ransom Rest and see how a good load does at distance. Maybe we should just try it and see how many folks watch it. Indeed there is a lot of interest in exploding targets and less scientific testing, real world testing. That is okay it would be nice if there was more interest in both though. At any rate thank you for watching we greatly appreciate it! --Jeremiah
My new Colt Python don't like CCI primers in DA. I get light strikes about every 8-12 rounds. Other primers seem OK. The gun has been back to Colt and returned the same way. They claim I should use only fresh new factory ammo? All I seem to be able to get is CCI primers lately so it's a bit disconcerting. My Ruger's and S&W's all work fine with them. Have others had a similar experience?
That is certainly not normal and should not happen, I was running CCI 500 and 550 primers throughout testing and never experienced any issues. I was using quality components and properly assembled loads. I would check it against some factory ammo such as Blazer Brass, CCI and maybe even Federal. I know Blazer Brass uses CCI primers in their factory ammo, if it won't work with that you know it is the gun. If it does work then there is something else going on perhaps your primers are seated too deep in worn out primer pockets etc. However I have a feeling it's the gun and not your loads but it is always good to double check and then perhaps you can get them to fix the revolver for you. I have heard of a couple of the early guns having some issues but a lot of folks were saying it was user error and it's been fixed now. --Jeremiah
The firing pin projects somewhat less than that of other revolvers I have, and I have many. The mainspring seems light but it's the up graded Colt replacement. These are obvious things I would have expected the factory technician to have noticed when I returned the gun for inspection. Maybe the batch of CCI primers I bought are a little hard but they do work in all my Ruger's, S&W's and one older Python reliably. Even my little 642 eats them up. Remington and Federal factory ammo seems to pop OK in the 2020 Python. I hate having an ammo sensitive gun, but I've heard that others have had the same problem.
@@samwalker7821 I have heard of some folks having issues with the Python, I have not had any issues with mine and currently it has over 1,000 rounds through it and has been at my side while attending several Gunsite classes. I would perhaps double check your brass and ensure that your primers are not being seated more than .003" below flush perhaps your primers are seated too deep or brass is worn out if it's firing fine in factory ammo. I don't like the idea of having an ammo sensitive gun either. I hate that others have experienced issues and I have not too it would be nice to get to the bottom of this once and for all and either confirm or deny these claims. I know a lot of folks I respect really like the new Pythons, Gunsite instructors, Ken Hackathorn and others. I hope you can get your issues figured out! --Jeremiah
8:25 Is this forward backward cylinder movement a normal thing?
Great question, with most double action revolvers it is pretty common the important thing is that when the cylinder is locked in place and ready to fire it should have little to no movement but while it is released and swung out it's fairly common to have some amount of play. Thanks for watching and taking the time to watch and comment! --Jeremiah
Did Colt ever think about reinstating the Anaconda, like they did with the Python, because the Anaconda is chambered in .44 Magnum it can also shoot the .44 Special Cartridge.
To be honest with you I don't know, I have not heard anything either way. I would certainly hope so in the near future but it is hard to say given that the Python introduction was a bit choppy. Thanks for watching and great question! --Jeremiah
Pretty sure they brought back the Anaconda in 2021
@@Horvath0819 You are correct I somehow missed that introduction!! That is very exciting thank you for pointing that out! --Jeremiah
The Anaconda is the best selling .44 Magnum right now. Had a much better re-release than the Python.
The New Generation Anaconda is a BEAST!!
@@joeruiz4010 I just read a thing that the Colt Python was the #1 selling revolver on gunbroker, in spite of the rocky release it seems to be doing well. I am dying to get my hands on an Anaconda currently hopefully one day! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah
Cz signed a strategic partnership with colt, didn't buy them. It means they trade off manufacturing processes. Some colt stuff made in cz factories and vice versa.
I have heard that from multiple people just saying that but sadly that is just an forum rumor or something of that nature and it's not true. CZ purchased Colt and owns 100% of the Colt Stock that was previously privately held. I will paste a couple of links for your reference. I don't like internet rumors or misinformation, we take great pride in trying to get the story correct and provide honest and reliable information to our viewers. Hopefully we can squash that rumor as it's simply not true. Thank you for watching and taking the time to watch and comment! --Jeremiah
www.reuters.com/world/europe/czech-gunmaker-bets-riding-colt-into-new-markets-2021-09-13/ News article
www.colt.com/news/3303 straight from the horses mouth.
Why didn't you test the ORIGINAL 357 load from remington? It's common knowledge and yet people are afraid of it.
I’d like to see you work up some .38 Special loads for this. Also, the Python holds 6 rounds so why not shoot all 6 over the Chronograph.
That is a great question and we do have plans to shoot 38 Special in a 357 Magnum and do a video dedicated to that topic alone. As far as the 6 rounds go that is a great question. The main reason we do so is the same reason we shoot at 15 yards. It keeps our videos consistent and directly comparable to each other. While shooting we are careful to check the diameter of all cylinders using pin/plug gauges and ensure they are all within spec and we mark each cylinder 1-6 and ensure to rotate through all of them in a consistent manner throughout testing. 5 rounds has been our standard for video testing just simply for time and consistency sake. Great question and thank you so much for taking the time to watch and comment! --Jeremiah
I have the 6" and if they make a blued version I will buy another
That would be really cool if they did make a blued version, they really are great guns I was quite impressed with this one especially with all of the negativity on the internet about them. Thank you for watching! --Jeremiah
Would like to see you shooting groups at 50 yards. 15 yards??@?@?
If there is enough interest I would be happy to take these firearms and test the better loads we worked up at 25-100 yards. The main reason why we test at 15 is it is an easy distance to work with camera wise and we start testing all firearms at 15 yards. So each test is directly comparable to other tests. It also allows us to revisit these firearms with good loads and test them at 25, 50 or even 100 yards if there is enough interest. Oddly enough I think I have only had 2 maybe 3 requests to push the distance further. At any rate thank you for the suggestion the feedback is always appreciated. We try to listen to the audience as much as possible and are always looking to improve our tests and presentation. --Jeremiah
@@HandloaderTV 15 yards isn't appropriate for accuracy testing of a full-size handgun. 50 yards is what separates the good guns from great guns IMO thats where bullseye competition shooting is done. thanks for responding
@@customhandguns It can be difficult 15 yards you can be splitting hairs between handguns and many of these are certainly capable of grouping at 50 yards. The main reason we do it is so that our videos are all directly comparable from the .380 Auto to the .454 Casull they can be compared at the same distance and you can certainly see the differences between the two. Even Ransom international recommends testing the guns at 15 yards to start. I would personally love to stretch the legs on some of these guns out to 50 and even 100 yards. I also know a good group at 15 will be a good group at 50 comparatively there has been extensive testing done to prove that. I do appreciate the feedback though and if there is enough interest I would not hesitate to film some of these guns performance at 50 yards and beyond. No problem I always want to take the time to respond so folks know why we do what we do or if they have any questions. We are always looking to improve, thank you for the feedback it is always appreciated! --Jeremiah
@@HandloaderTV I don't think it's appropriate to compare a .380 with a 454 Casull-they are intended for different things. The NRA tests subcompact and short-barreled and blowback handguns at shorter ranges than full-size guns for this reason. .. without seeing raw data on 15-yard accuracy equating to 50-yard accuracy I have to say I would have to see it to believe it. It's why we shoot rifles at 100 yards and not 25. I am impressed you are shooting the targets, just not the methodology.
@@customhandguns No it's probably not but but, It makes all of our testing equal, you see what each gun does at 15 yards as a standard. I know a lot of our writers test handguns at 25 yards as a standard as well. I just try to keep things simple for the videos. However I am thinking after chatting with you perhaps I should really look into stretching the legs on some of these guns. I have seen some tests conducted probably the most notable is from Brian Litz, I will paste a link to his Instagram post on the subject at the end of this comment I think you will find it most interesting! There is a method to my madness though, it may not seem like it but at 15 yards the group sizes change may be more minor than at 25 or 50 but they are all relative just as accuracy is a relative term. You also have less environmental factors creating larger variables at 15 yards. It is easier to film at that distance and the accuracy translates well to 25 and 50 yards. In addition to all of that it creates an entry level for working up good loads. I have found a good load at 15 will generally produce good groups at 50 or even 100 yards if I do my part. In addition to that when I am doing the shooting it takes a little bit more of the shooter/human error out of the equation. Sometimes I don't have time to have grip inserts made in time for our video production. So I admit it is not perfect but there is a reason behind it. And of course if enough folks are interested I would be more than happy to test loads at 50 or even 100 yards where appropriate. I appreciate that we can have a discussion like this it always provides a lot of food for thought on my end and it's always nice to know what others are thinking and what they want. --Jeremiah
instagram.com/p/CdZRc_gLnFQ/? Instagram post from Brian litz about group size being the same at different distances. This is of course with a rifle but I feel the same would apply with a handgun as well.
Interesting presentation for loading and shooting ammo out of the revolver but I have two points of contention. First no lead bullets why not? The second is why are you doing accuracy tests on a precision revolver at 15 Yards? This revolver should be accuracy tested at a minimum 25 yards and as a hunting arm 50 yards should be used.
I will do my best to address those concerns and answer your questions. We did in fact test lead or cast bullets if you watch the target review you'll see that loads 4 and 5 in the target review are both lead or cast bullets. The Hornady Frontier bullet is a swagged lead projectile and the Rim Rock LBT-WFN is a cast bullet. I usually do not have enough time to cast up my own projectiles for these tests but on occasion I will also cast my own and test them as well. The reason for the close range is 2 fold, it was the distance we originally picked to make all of our videos directly comparable to each other all firearms handguns are tested at 15 yards. Hindsight being 20/20 I probably should have picked 25 yards. However, when we first started I was not confident enough to print half inch groups at 25 yards even if the pistol was capable of doing so. We did not have the Ransom rest back then. I did not want the shooter to become the limiting factor to the accuracy of the gun. So I settled on 15 yards at which myself is fully capable of holding small groups at. Since all groups would be shot at that distance all of our group sizes are directly comparable from video to video. It also opens up the option to do more testing with these guns at 25 yards and beyond. We wanted to test the capability of the gun and not the shooter. Hopefully moving forward if we can begin to revisit some of these guns and stretch out the ranges provided enough people are interested. Thanks for watching and I hope this answers your questions. If you have any further questions don't hesitate to ask! --Jeremiah
I wish Jeremiah were just a bit more dry! His sense of humor and bravado is just too over the top for me lmao 🤣.
Good info though.
And here all this time I thought that my sense of humor was too dry ha ha! I am glad that you found the video informative and I want to thank you for taking the time to watch and comment the feedback is always appreciated! --Jeremiah
The question about the "New" Colt Python that seems to be a big secret is: Who makes it and in which country. Yes, it's Colt branded, but I don't think it's made in Connecticut or anywhere in the USA.
From everything I have read and researched so far everything indicates that the New Colt Pythons are made in Connecticut in the united states. They are not outsourcing production, especially not outside the USA quite frankly that would be extremely easy to tell based off the the proof marks that would have to be added to the firearm. I don't know where you have heard that but It simply is not true and there is no "big secret". --Jeremiah
@@HandloaderTV Hello and Thank you for the information. I can find no published data on where the new Python is made. If you have the time and can share a published article or advertisement/statement by Colt of where the pistol is produced, that would be much appreciated. I'd like to put it back on my "Must Have" list.
@@damselnoir5905 A simple google search reveals that the new Python revolvers are made in Hartford, Connecticut. It is also stamped on the actual firearm itself and has no foreign proof marks or importation marks stamped on the gun so I have no reason to doubt that it is made in Hartford, Connecticut which is stamped on our new Colt Python. I hope that helps you out and makes sense if you have any further questions don't hesitate to reach out! --Jeremiah
@@HandloaderTV I'm glad to hear that, Thanks for the info.
@@damselnoir5905 No Problem! Always happy to help! --Jeremiah
Sorry I now see some lead being tested.
No worries, questions are always welcome I already answered your first one so you can disregards that. We always appreciate the feedback and you taking the time to watch and comment! --Jeremiah
Great video! Ditch the stetson. You look like the flying nunn.
Get in line with the other fashionistas on here who think they know what a Stetson looks like 😂
@@horsebackhuntress Still, a great video!
@@clementglinski3924 agreed. And that's all that matters. I have no clue why some folks have to bring his attire into it. ?
That hat means a lot to me, it's actually a Cavender's and I have to respectfully disagree with you on it correlating in any way shape or form to the flying nun. No pun intended. The video is about the gun though and not me or what I wear, it's not as common to see these days sadly but it still exists in some parts of this great nation. At any rate thank you for watching and taking the time to comment. --Jeremiah