2024 MOST UGLIEST Golf Clubs THAT 100% OUT PERFORM OTHER BRANDS?!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ต.ค. 2024
- These clubs aren't for everyone's eye BUT you can't deny how well these work! But does it really matter how they look if this golf club performs better than other irons on the market?
Cleveland HALO XL irons, you have to see how this golf club performs. I just had to get this Ugly golf club to see if it performed and was good enough for you to game in 2024
This is what i would class as a seriously forgiving iron and a golf club that is designed for the game improvement category and could be one of the better game improvement irons of 2024! These are some seriously forgiving irons! The UGLIEST Golf Clubs in the WORLD Out PERFORM The BIG BRANDS?!
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PLEASE LIKE and COMMENT on the Video, I will answer as many as I possibly can 👍
I’m a 11 handicap 62 year old golfer. I have been struggling with my game the past year due to an injury and a foot surgery a year or so ago. My Ping G 430 irons were giving me troubles, not the clubs fault, but I was drifting towards 17 plus territory. Hit a set of the 2021 Halo models in a shop and loved em. Bought a set, the 2021 model new, with the R Flex Cypher graphite shaft. First two rounds shot a 76 and a 79. And I still hit my driver well at about 270 average. I am honestly as a 30 year golfer baffled. These clubs are fun and unique and pin seekers… And I play a lot of golf all over with a lot of people and no one has yet to make any snide remarks or funny looks. I’ve had numerous folks ask me about them in wonderment. Even in Scotland… It’s just a stigma… And I get it, but I’m over it… They are at least worth a try at a local shop… And IMO they are not all geared towards just beginners and seniors.
70 year old golfer who has just had a hip replacement. I have a full set of these, and the easiest review I can give,,,, without out them I would have quit golf. Easy, forgiving (ultra forgiving) and reasonable price. Also they are custom fit, plus 1/2 inch and 1* upright. 5 stars from me.
I really enjoy your reviews especially the different club speed comparison it helps when you’re deciding on clubs …. Keep up the nice work 👍🏽
Thanks Hector, it's a lot of work, circa 2 days when you include the testing, filming and editing so it's always nice to see people enjoy the content made, especially so when the comment positive things so thank you for that 👍🏻
So many more people should play these.
100 % agree 👍🏻
Great video. Probably one of the best ones for this club
Probably?? 😁😁 Thanks for the kind feedback, glad you enjoyed the video 👍🏻
I have the prior generation of these irons. Really enjoy them. 👍
Awesome review as usual! As a 26 yr old high handicapper, speed isn't so much an issue for me but I'm honestly really tempted to move into something like these. It's obvious hybrid irons are just so consistent and taking looks out of the equation (hard to do) I can't see why I shouldn't just game them...
Hi Mitchell, its something that I'd absolutely suggest a player at a higher less consistent handicap to use to enjoy the game more and then possibly look as they progress and become interested in something more usual looking to only then transition..... Really most golfers could easily start with these types of irons.
Thanks for the comment and for watching.......
These clubs along with the Eleven "hybrids" is definitely somthing to consider for many slower swing speed golfers. Particularly could offset the inevitable speed and power loss as we age. Also many women swing slower, and could benefit on designs like these.
If only the stigma of paying somethig like this could be removed somehow. I tried convincing my better half how she would benefit from Eleven or the previous geeration of these, but when she saw them she immediately just said NO! This video is part of what could help convincing slower clubspeed golfers to try them out. For higher swingspeeds, I guess gapping would become an issue.
Excellent that you give them this kind of review on their own merits!
Thanks very much for the kind and very constructive comment. It's a shame that stigma is a massive part of the game, I myself being honest still holds some which I know in practical terms is nothing other than silly.
I guess it's slightly different for the better player that utilises more of the middle of the club but still they would still help on the off days. For the average and below average golfers of either strike consistency or club head speed, these could help unlock a lost level of distance and consistency of distance to allow them to enjoy golf much more 👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks for testing these and using a slow swing apeed and showing mishits. That's my game.
I wasn't able to demo them but I ordered them anyway. I live near the two largest golf stores here, Golf Galaxy and the PGA Superstore. Golf Galaxy doesn't carry Cleveland and the PGA Superstore didn't have the Halos.
Wowsers and there's the main problem for the likes of Cleveland, they need to try and work directly with the retailers to try and get some form of test clubs into these stores. It's also the stores that are reluctant as they want to sell something with a larger profit margin attached.
Personally I've always come from the golfers point of view rather than the businesses 👍🏻
Great review, IMO most beginners should start with a set of hybrid irons like these.
Also, I have a video idea/request. It would be interesting to use your review style to compare the same iron at stock loft, bent 2 degrees strong, and 2 degrees weak. Exactly how much distance do you gain/lose, how much does ball speed change, spin rate, launch angle, etc. I've heard that every degree of loft is 2-3 yards, but how accurate is that?
IMO using a players distance iron like the Mizuno 245 for this would be best, because they are in the middle of the lofts with 30* 7 irons, more then 28* Hot Metal, but less than the blade 243 at 32*. So someone could strengthen it to match the Hot Metal or weaken it to match the 243.
Hello Jay i have noticed on some reviews, comments regarding low spin. I am thinking with the decent angle these produce it should not be a problem. I have a 7 iron swing speed of 76/77mph.
Another great video Jay. Are these heavier than a standard game improvement iron.
I had a previous version of these. I actually miss them. i’m not a slow swingspeed golfer or having problems getting the ball in the air. I could easily game the long irons in this set. Why not? They perform better than any other iron for most golfers. In the short irons I want more feel and control though.
Definitely something that you could potentially blend into something a touch more feel orientated in the scoring irons 👍🏻
Could you combo them with the zip core xl 💁🏻♂️
Absolutely you could, got that video coming out early next week 👍🏻
@@AskGolfNut Legend
How do they compare with the Eleven hybrid irons.
Like! As always. Funny rationale for the bottom white line for such a big face to remind people where the middle is. The topline is thick enough for a (driver) logo marker too, LOL. 47 descent from the bottom groove, wowsers!
With all it's aesthetic issues (very subjective) no one can deny just how good these are. Really can see a lot of people using these and making the bad shots better, which in golf is the way to reduce the score on the card 👍🏻
@@AskGolfNut Amen
My wife has a set of Lynx Hybrid irons that are similar to these and she loves them.
They can be an absolute godsend for players of limited club head speed when compared to standard irons 👍🏻
Great review, as always. Please consider doing the Wilson Launchpad irons as well and comparing them to these.
I have a feeling that thd Launchpad irons may well be changing fairly soon.... I could be wrong but I'm sure I heard something somewhere.... 👍🏻
Got2017 hb hybrid irons amazing clubs so forgiving wouldnt change them after thus video needto try
I currently am playing the stealth irons with graphite shafts and like them alot but i am 59 years old and father time is creeping in I am a 7 handicap and am very intrigued on these cleveland Halo XL Full Face irons i think they might just be what i need in my senior years my driver swing speed is 90-94 mph but i swing my 7 iron around 77-80 mph what are your thoughts on this great review by the way cheers from Vulcan Canada ( or would i be better to go with Wilson Dynapower Forged / Takomo 101's / ) ?
Well in the case of the design, you won't find something more potentially helpful than these unless going full on hybrid head with roll and bulge. But these will help launch the ball and also be more forgiving than most from off centre strikes 👍🏻
@@AskGolfNut THANKS JAY hope all is well sir....cheers from Canada
How do these compare to the Eleven hybrids in terms of forgiveness and performance?
It will be close but due to the Eleven Hybrids being more of a true hybrid design having the full roll and bulge face then it will be more forgiving from miss hit shots 👍🏻
@@AskGolfNut thank you.
Really like your content. Do grooves have to be horizontal? Car tires are at an angle, you’d think they know a thing or two about moisture management.
There's a huge conversation to be had about the actual use of any form of hydra groove tech. I'll be honest and say that I haven't seen any particular difference between having it or not, but that's just my take on something thatany manufacturers have some form of 👍🏻
Yonex do a hybrid with grooves that slope up from low heel up towards high toe. If you can picture that.
@geoffhiggins742 do you know the design logic for it? 👍🏻
@@AskGolfNut "The slanted grooves face design prevents grass and moisture from coming between the club face and the ball, stabilizing the ball flight by reducing left and right side-spin for improved accuracy".
Copied from Yonex blurb. Not hit them, so can't comment on whether there's any substance behind these grooves. I like my £60 incl. delivery Yonex driver though, it's a cracker.
I have these and my only complaint is how high they flight the ball. I feel like I am losing distance.
Generally that won't be the case unless 1 or 2 things, you have serious club head speed and the speed related spin issue with larger headed high launch type irons are ballooning flight. Or your club head delivery promotes high initial launch due to poor loft or open face to path control.
Do you feel that either one is the culprit? 👍🏻 👍🏻
@@AskGolfNut Definitely not the former! But, I play with a strong grip, hit my irons from middle of my stance, and have the majority of weight on my left foot - as best I can tell. I need to video myself to be sure.
Yep I would definitely seek professional advice as to how to quickly put you in the right direction so that it could very easily open up your equipment choices going forward 👍🏻
I'm surprised reviewers don't enlist a high handicap / senior player (who these are designed for) to do the swing testing. Your golf swing could hit mashies with hickory shafts well! Good info though but would love to see a senior 18 HC hit them....
The main reason for myself at least when it comes to analytical testing of actually how forgiving and helpful a particular piece of equipment is, is that to test how well a face works, you have to keep delivery dynamics as close to normal as possible and just miss hit the ball in a particular measured miss hit whilst not corrupting any other part of delivery.
This is the only way other than using a swing robot (costs an awful lot) that you can accurately test how well the club works from miss hits compared to another. This even at my level takes a lot of time to test heel, low and toe hits. For a handicap golfer to do it would take forever and possibly never and involve a lot of his or her opinions or feels rather than actual objective data and info 👍🏻👍🏻
@@AskGolfNut understood but you get my thoughts though...Possibly a comp with their current gamers against the Cleveland numbers Just a thought...subbed and liked looking forward to more content
@tjnaevans I absolutely do, I think also other youtube reviewers do also but just don't entertain replying to comments seemingly at all, but it's mainly a case of getting absolutes and not feel based opinion data 👍🏻
What shaft weight? Thanks
In the test I had the Stiff Tour Lite which is 110 grams. Always best to use your own needs shaft wise to ensure you get the best fit possible 👍🏻
How would these do if you had to work the ball. If you had to bend it around a dog leg
Hi James. Workability or being able to apply tilt axis to a ball for curvature purposes isn't an issue whatsoever. I've done a video in the past where with the use of GCQuad (as it measures club head delivery and strike location to the ridiculously small amount) I captured identical (as much as possible being human) deliveries with both a blade and a game improvement club or at least 2 very different designs of iron and then measured the applied tilt axis to the ball.... It was near on identical so the myth is busted on that front.
The larger heads are a touch more stable through impact where the smaller (known as more workable) heads can rotate more due the CG of the head being closer to the CG of the shaft. However if you are talking about curvature applied by the same amount of face to path delivery then they are both exactly the same.
Thanks for the comment and for watching 👍🏻
These or the elevens that's what we all want to know mate😁
On balance, sitting on the fence and giving my honest opinion, I'd have to say that due to the Elevens having roll and bulge on the face then this will add an additional element to forgiveness that the flat faced irons of these don't have. It's marginal but looking at it from a pure physics point of view, I would have to say the Elevens just 👍🏻
@@AskGolfNut I was just about to ask this same question. Thanks for your feedback!
Subtle isn't a word that springs to mind🤔
😊 They certainly are big 😊
@@AskGolfNut Had an hour to kill out on the road so went & browsed a golfstore to look at the Wilson irons. The dynapower forged looked prety hefty to me. I just love a thin top line but looking for some 'help' to keep up with youngsters😆 of all the offering only 3 clubs sat nice behind the ball. Miz 243, Cobra King Tour & wilson CB. The Miz 245 looked chunky to my eyes.😟 Going to have to put the practice in to sharpen up the strike efficiency.
172 from a mishit thats impressive 😊
Along with the Eleven Hybrids Irons which are arguably more hybrid than iron where these are more down the iron design (flat face) that I was too very impressed by the nature of how helpful these are..... Well done Cleveland 👍🏻
Another great video. I play the jpx23hl. My 7 iron club head speed is 65. Ball carry 130 but most importantly decent angle is 41. Any thoughts would be appreciated
Smash that like button 👇
Thanks for the comment.... As for the kind info you gave, being honest with a 65 mph head speed you are doing really well with those numbers and I would be amazed if there was anything else out there that would beat it... I'd work on all parts of the game to try and keep the handicap down as long as possible because your delivery is pretty efficient 👍🏻👍🏻
@@AskGolfNut Appreciate the feedback. I failed to mention I'm 72 and still loving the game.
@jbh199 and that's the beauty of golf, keep on enjoying being out there, play as well as you can, but above all, keep having fun..... Oh and watching my videos of course 😉😁😁👍🏻👍🏻
Amusing hypocrisy to ridicule the size of these irons. When everyone plays a 460 cc driver. Play the original iteration of these. A pleasure to hit.
I'm not sure necessarily that hypocrisy is correct, maybe more fallacy, as everyone plays 460cc drivers, drivers don't come in bladed models out at least the huge variance that iron designs have. I'm definitely not ridiculing things irons, I'm making it clear the size compared to other designs but also their benefits to golfers being the size that they are. Although they definitely aren't the type of iron I have always aesthetically preferred, one can not deny the benefits these types of design have over the smaller ones.
As you say you play the original set of these and they were very good irons, with clear benefits of using them.
Thanks for the comment and for watching 👍🏻
I love how you can be so enthusiastic about something you would never use if you had a gun held to your head.
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😊, for me personally aesthetics are extremely important and I, suppose at my level I can generally afford to be but for the most part, a massive proportion of golfers would gain a lot by using equipment like this.... It would definitely make it a little easier and more fun to play 👍🏻
I'm surprised there haven't been any full faced players clubs already 🤷🏼
I think mainly due to strike consistency and not needing the groves all the way across the face, even in the higher lofted irons, players wouldn't need them. Also in the very lofted irons into the SW etc, the sole thickness makes it very difficult to apply any shaft axis twist for face manipulation. Great for a beginner or less experienced finger but has a little less in the way of versatility for the better player 👍🏻
Personally I can't understand how anyone could dream of playing golf if they didn't have 'three sole transition'.
It's a no-brainer. Get three sole transition ASAP. It will transform your game. Not.
These clubs would definitely help my game, but those clubs are just not pretty.
It wasn't titled the ugliest clubs of 2024 for nothing 😊😊, but yes absolutely they work ever so well 👍🏻
These clubs always review very well but nobody wants to use them because of their pride, if it helps your game use it, stop being a follower
Pity they don’t have particularly light shafts
Not in the Steel but they do have a 60g option in the Helium Nanocore 👍🏻