Some math tricks, some hypnotism, some fantastic art, but all of that dwarfs the preparation and showmanship this man gives the crowd. Why Derren is the best in the world. He has all of it!
That's what he wants you to think, Drift. When you ask one person to pick box 1, 2, or 3, you cannot meaningfully influence them because you cannot be privy to the method by which they choose the number. Most of what he does - in his stage shows at least - is just a normal magic trick sprinkled with old-fashioned charm coated in a veneer of modernity. Presentation, Presentation, Presentation. Apologies if that's what you meant in the first place though. He basically just seduces the audience in to forgetting that they should know that much can be done with hidden cameras, secreted pagers feeding back to him from the cameras, hidden animatronics, false panels, sleight of hand etc.
No it’s not... he’s basically hypnotizing everyone, while being an incredible performer & a thousand other things. I know you want to act smart, but don’t diminish his ability to “memorizing & slight of hand” 🙄 that’s not even close to all that he must do in order to perfectly pull this off.
1:05:47 - this moment I was told was 100% not planned, and the audience went with it. No prompt from Derren, who was off side at the stage getting the broom. A wonderful moment, which for her will be a memory she will cherish for years to come.
What a magnificent performance! A good reason to visit the UK. A very polished stage presentation and patter. Derren knows exactly what he's doing. His painting reveal was also brilliant!
Most of the time, the things like that are just to make it seem more real, so the suggestion is more effective. Like when they say it won't affect you at home. Mostly, that so that it doesn't
Thanks so much for posting this. There was nothing worth watching on the telly tonight, so this was a nice surprise. Love the spontaneity of the audience singing happy birthday, gets me every time. It also occurs to me to say thank you for your book, Happy. It has helped me enormously:)
He keeps dropping in this kind of chaff to mystify the crowd. It's in every show. If you catch these out, you feel smart while he makes an absolute fool out of you. The mad lad
For those saying “you can’t hypnotize everyone” of course you can’t but successful hypnotists are masters at spotting the most susceptible people, and then playing on the emotions and ignorance of the rest of the crowd - for example, putting a needle that way through fascia doesn’t hurt and won’t draw blood, but saying “of course it won’t draw blood bc it’s a wooden hand” makes it seem magical!
After I saw him apply the Monty Hall Problem in his performance, every bit of doubt in my mind is cleared about him. Legit this man is the one, with whom if I get to have conversation, I can die without any regrets.
Please release more of the live shows thats been done in the past and the spin off specials to, along with extra bits, miss watching them when there not on channel 4, and just gets me every time, love it
I've always loved the usage of Isla Cameron's "O' Willow Waly" from The Innocents in this, it was my first time hearing it and I've used it several times since for various things. Haunting song. Glad to see it used in this context again, so many years later.
I was just checking to see if anyone else commented on this. I wasn't paying attention but the music kept standing out. I love this haunting piece of music.
@@mklizzar And THATS why the manipulators can be so succesful, they can even get to to believe what you said you do. I could explain the Elvis trick but you would be so disappointed to lose your fantasy.
I've was called up on stage once in a live stage show. It opened my eyes to a lot of how he does what he does. It took away my innocence of how amazing he is, but now I admire him in a different way. He's not a mind reader. He is true showman and an artist.
@@BethanyLowe8773 he asks people to answer some questions on a card before the show or in the interval. He can then choose his volunteers as he already knows stuff about them. He even admits it on this show that he asked the audience to give info but most people will glaze over that.
@@retro2vr Right, as soon as anything is written down all bets are off! (I just read him explaining it in Happy about evangelism.) How do you think the info gets to him from the cards? Somebody reckoned leg buzzer in Morse code...
@@BethanyLowe8773I assumed his team probably read the cards quickly and brief him which ones are worth using during the interval or before the show. But you're right, could be an earpiece too as real evangelists have been caught using them.
Unf as most entertainers or ppl who are their own brand have to keep up with society and what's hip or with novelties, necessarily something "new" doesnt make it better
its not down to intelligence. Its all down to understanding how humans as a specie behave and act. Its not as mesmerizing as you think. Its like studying any specie....after years of doing so you become an expert in it. Not only is he doing this, but lets remember, he is also placing his subjects within an environment of his choosing. Adding extra control on the subjects, from the very start dictating everything
id disagree, we know nothing about Derren, all we know is that hes an entertainer that has perfected his craft. One could argue it is the very lack of intelligence on his subjects that brings success to his career. Not only that, lets remember these subjects willingly paid to become involved.....hoping his ''magick'' works on them even before the show started. Being passive and wanting to be tricked, all works in his favour. Hence why its entertainment and not real. He is winning from the moment the tickets sell out to his show
I love how much more playful Derren has become over the years. Instead of hawking pseudo-scientific mumbo jumbo about planting ideas through subliminal messaging, he now has fun with the crowd.
His entire act is deliberately peppered with pseudo science. For instance, the Monty Hall problem. Yes that would have real application in normal circumstances. But it's pseudo science to pretend that it has meaning in the workings of a magic trick! He constantly flatters the audience's modicum or largeness alike of knowledge about 'respected' fields such as mathematics, pretending that they could or should have any application in a magic trick.
@@Picnicl Which is absolutely brilliant because when it works, the mumbo jumbo sounds more and more credible until you can't help believing it. Hell, I believed mentalism was real for years, all because of Derren's act.
I watched a hypnotist on stage once. He had hynotized 7 guys when he accidentally dropped the mike. He said "Oh fxxk me" and what happened after that will haunt me forever.
Damn!!! I wish I knew he was in NYC 3 years ago!!! I just Googled "Derren Brown New York City Live Shows", and it looks like I've missed my opportunity.
I have seen this twice before already I think, but every time I get pleasantly surprised! Thanks, Darren! Also, please do a show in Shanghai! I know language plays a big part in this, but please, I really want to take part in one of your shows. Feel like a child.
He's like a real life Dr. House. Insanely talented, smart, and aware. I guess the way he can read people just falls into a blend of those qualities. I have no idea how he makes those guesses from cold reading. He seems like he's genuinely enjoying himself on set too. His brain is just so sharp. Very entertaining. I'm glad I get to see this.
"left arm... write the initials of ... Devil ... Sinister" "Doll, Svengali" probably reinforces ? He's also such a top bloke that after the audience sings happy birthday, I think he *touches her arm* when saying "never forget that, that's lovely" to lock in a powerful happy memory. Physical cue with an instruction is a hypnosis thing I think
I wish he would do an episode where he explains how he did these tricks. It would be very interesting and entertaining and show how smart he is how he came up with them
@@sfdntk the worst one was the time he had to guess what order coloured beads were in. he just put his hands over his eyes and when the person was putting in the beads they were distracted so he looked through his fingers. you're watching it and say, "wow how the hell did he do that?" sarcastically
@@randysager3660 The public really doesn't want to know. The reason why magicians don't reveal their secrets isn't because it's highly guarded. It's because the real explanations are almost always extremely dull and disappointing.
Dude his shows give me chills more than any other magician. Because he even lets u in on the fact it’s all an act- then proceeds to fool u anyways- like how the fuck...
36:42 Look at what is inside this ladys hand... She has the symbol from the doll in here hand... but why?? It looks like some kind of tattoo or drawing... weird
I admire him too! Have you ever read much about NLP (neuro-linguistic programming)? That's a really good starting point for beginning to understand what he does. It's fascinating actually.
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Derren brown is NOT a "borderline national treasure"...
He's a definite human treasure.
That implies Derren is human
DB is full of shit, a trickster with well placed objects/people
@@joeharris5098 yeah but he does admit that constantly though
@@joeharris5098You naive moron, of course it's a trick. Did you think fairies were gonna fly out of his arse?
@Samson Lucian Its a scam site dont do it
The wall outside my house is NOT four foot high.
The price of cheese is not £4.98!
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Justin Timefortea everyone here
No one just watches 1 of Derrens shows lol
The walls in france are smaller than the ones here
*pats bus seat happily*
I remember watching this when it debuted on TV, and we were all pissing ourselves about the guy who admitted beating off in detention.
Some math tricks, some hypnotism, some fantastic art, but all of that dwarfs the preparation and showmanship this man gives the crowd. Why Derren is the best in the world. He has all of it!
Derren is the greatest showman alive. What an astounding assortment of talents on display. Wonderful performance.
Not really
@@drpeppaerdrpeppaer5434 Be a wet blanket somewhere else. If you don't like it, watch something else
@@benjaminfranklin4149 Darren Brown is not funny and a terrible entertainer. Just the facts
@@drpeppaerdrpeppaer5434 You're delusional. If you don't like him, then not sure why you're here except to troll
@@drpeppaerdrpeppaer5434 such a terrible entertainer people have paid to be entertained by him for 20 years.
Derren is actually a very good artist. he did a show that toured his home and there were a few of his original paintings and they're really well done.
One sees that right here. The painting wasn't just recognisable, or a good likeness, it was a darn good portrait.
What can't he do?
He was painting before he started with hypnosis and magic.
Also in his Insta there are stunning pieces of art
Derren Brown‘s entire act is equivalent to a psychological sleight of hand - mesmerizing
So true!!!
That's what he wants you to think, Drift. When you ask one person to pick box 1, 2, or 3, you cannot meaningfully influence them because you cannot be privy to the method by which they choose the number. Most of what he does - in his stage shows at least - is just a normal magic trick sprinkled with old-fashioned charm coated in a veneer of modernity. Presentation, Presentation, Presentation. Apologies if that's what you meant in the first place though. He basically just seduces the audience in to forgetting that they should know that much can be done with hidden cameras, secreted pagers feeding back to him from the cameras, hidden animatronics, false panels, sleight of hand etc.
No it’s not... he’s basically hypnotizing everyone, while being an incredible performer & a thousand other things. I know you want to act smart, but don’t diminish his ability to “memorizing & slight of hand” 🙄 that’s not even close to all that he must do in order to perfectly pull this off.
Sid Vicious by no means am I trying to diminish his act, when I stated it was mesmerizing, I meant it in the best possible way - it was a compliment
1:05:47 - this moment I was told was 100% not planned, and the audience went with it. No prompt from Derren, who was off side at the stage getting the broom. A wonderful moment, which for her will be a memory she will cherish for years to come.
@TwiddleBee You really are pathetic. If you can't say something respectable, keep your mouth shut
Moving from humour to thriller style is amazing and grips people, love seeing you live
He has really good emotional hooks. He is the guy conducting the orchestra with our hearts and brains.
What a magnificent performance! A good reason to visit the UK. A very polished stage presentation and patter. Derren knows exactly what he's doing. His painting reveal was also brilliant!
Petition for Derren to be in the next “Now you see me” film
Where I sign?
I’m glad though that he is in Sherlock
Petition they don't make anymore Now You See Me films.
Fauz Guest yesssssssss
FYI The hypnotist at the “now you see me” film is based on Derren Brown
Darren: "Don't participate if you have a problem with your hands or fingers"
Guy at 34:58 : has a bandage on his hand and participates anyway
Alanna McGrane I know, right? Wanted to smack that twat.
That's the Brits for you
Well, he did say hands
Most of the time, the things like that are just to make it seem more real, so the suggestion is more effective. Like when they say it won't affect you at home. Mostly, that so that it doesn't
'Tis merely a flesh wound!
Thanks so much for posting this. There was nothing worth watching on the telly tonight, so this was a nice surprise. Love the spontaneity of the audience singing happy birthday, gets me every time.
It also occurs to me to say thank you for your book, Happy. It has helped me enormously:)
The painting reveal shows how amazing derren’s showmanship is
5:39 - 5:41 "....1...NO...or 3..." It is always good watching him drop those bits in an no one catching it...
Also...
Nice...
With your mother?! Is it even legal? I think you should somehow edit your post.
He keeps dropping in this kind of chaff to mystify the crowd. It's in every show. If you catch these out, you feel smart while he makes an absolute fool out of you.
The mad lad
@@FiksIIanzO its called NLP. Neuro Linguistic Programming. Its a technique Derren uses constantly.
@@simonlloyd7557 you should probably read his books
thank u for posting this vid with no fees. a massive fan. Love u Darren! :)
I bet he "hypnotised" Channel 4 to let him upload his work.
Janis Logins..... Derren
Andrea Diamond yes?
Janis Logins .... just letting you know how to spell his name. ✌🏼
ha
For those saying “you can’t hypnotize everyone” of course you can’t but successful hypnotists are masters at spotting the most susceptible people, and then playing on the emotions and ignorance of the rest of the crowd - for example, putting a needle that way through fascia doesn’t hurt and won’t draw blood, but saying “of course it won’t draw blood bc it’s a wooden hand” makes it seem magical!
So high paced and entertaining. I can see why he would be somewhat of a national treasure.
After I saw him apply the Monty Hall Problem in his performance, every bit of doubt in my mind is cleared about him.
Legit this man is the one, with whom if I get to have conversation, I can die without any regrets.
Reminded me about my break from Albion being longer than I planned
Love the shoe choices - "one , NO or three"
Now I just want to make it clear that your final decision was your THREE choice to make
@@philhanley5809 that part was a joke though, not a suggestion
Abby’s just had the worlds best birthday.
Abby is cute as a basketful of kittens.
@@johnjameshardy ok John
Watched this live in Cardiff and its definitely better live but still great to rewatch, great entertainer and human 🤟
Derren Brown, my favorite performer. The Best!
Simply WOW ... I love him!
I always liked his last talk at the end of miracle.
BEST 70 MINS I EVER HAD !
DERREN, YOU ARE VERY .... SOMETHING.
I'd give you a good 70 minutes.
This was way over my expectations, best performance ever!
The lottery ticket part of the balloon trick was def the best part of the show
I watch this show many times. I'm always amazed. A big fan from indonesia, Derren
Please release more of the live shows thats been done in the past and the spin off specials to, along with extra bits, miss watching them when there not on channel 4, and just gets me every time, love it
I was in the audience for the Bristol showing of Svengali! Loved it!
Knowing that derren paints portraits, watching him paint upside down is beautiful
He is an icredible artist. In every sense of the word.
He didn't paint it. He brushed that image visible. How you can be this clueless?
@@MultiJejjeit's a good illusion. Why are you so rude?
@@nitedk never said it was bad. I just corrected that Derren didn't paint it upside down, he brushed it visible.
@@MultiJejjeif you agree it's a good illusion, why do you call Derik clueless for not seeing through it?
I've always loved the usage of Isla Cameron's "O' Willow Waly" from The Innocents in this, it was my first time hearing it and I've used it several times since for various things. Haunting song. Glad to see it used in this context again, so many years later.
I was just checking to see if anyone else commented on this. I wasn't paying attention but the music kept standing out. I love this haunting piece of music.
Thank you! I was trying to figure out what this song was.
The box thing is the Monty Hall Problem in a theatrical context. Derren is smart and uses every bit of knowledge to build a great variety show.
Masterclass. The Best from THE Best.
The trick to realising how Derren does what he does is to realise almost everything he says isn't true lol.
@@mklizzar no
@@1theedster You get your ideas from movies, not me, I get my ideas from visual evidence from real recordings, as well as history.
I come to the TH-cam comments to watch idiots argue with trolls. Popcorn anyone?
@@Senorpoontang The real question is who is the troll, and who is the idiot.
Honestly though i assumed IA43 was a troll but i could be wrong
@@mklizzar And THATS why the manipulators can be so succesful, they can even get to to believe what you said you do.
I could explain the Elvis trick but you would be so disappointed to lose your fantasy.
I've was called up on stage once in a live stage show. It opened my eyes to a lot of how he does what he does. It took away my innocence of how amazing he is, but now I admire him in a different way. He's not a mind reader. He is true showman and an artist.
Spill something? I suspect there are cameras pointing down from the rafters to see anything that gets written down...
@@BethanyLowe8773 he asks people to answer some questions on a card before the show or in the interval. He can then choose his volunteers as he already knows stuff about them. He even admits it on this show that he asked the audience to give info but most people will glaze over that.
@@retro2vr Right, as soon as anything is written down all bets are off! (I just read him explaining it in Happy about evangelism.) How do you think the info gets to him from the cards? Somebody reckoned leg buzzer in Morse code...
@@BethanyLowe8773I assumed his team probably read the cards quickly and brief him which ones are worth using during the interval or before the show. But you're right, could be an earpiece too as real evangelists have been caught using them.
@@BethanyLowe8773 he has an obvious earpiece
I’m re watching this I like the subtle hints, your more likely TWO stick and you now have TWICE the chance, and TWO out of three
Legend. Love the backstory on this 1. Fascinating ❤
Never gets old.
I know his shows have to evolve, but I wish his newer stuff was more like this
Why, what does he do now? Interested to see him, never have before. I just find it incredibly difficult to believe he doesn't use plants.
Cheximus did u see the apocalypse experiment
Unf as most entertainers or ppl who are their own brand have to keep up with society and what's hip or with novelties, necessarily something "new" doesnt make it better
You sir are an absolute treasure.
Not only is he one of the Greatest illusionist probably... EVER. But man, he's a phenomenal artist too!
23:33 - "OK - shout the name...!"
"DAVID BOWIE!!!"
...
_"... shit..."_
This guys intelligence is off the charts...
its not down to intelligence. Its all down to understanding how humans as a specie behave and act. Its not as mesmerizing as you think. Its like studying any specie....after years of doing so you become an expert in it. Not only is he doing this, but lets remember, he is also placing his subjects within an environment of his choosing. Adding extra control on the subjects, from the very start dictating everything
@@franzbeck3177 Maybe so but Derren is clearly a very intelligent man.
id disagree, we know nothing about Derren, all we know is that hes an entertainer that has perfected his craft. One could argue it is the very lack of intelligence on his subjects that brings success to his career. Not only that, lets remember these subjects willingly paid to become involved.....hoping his ''magick'' works on them even before the show started. Being passive and wanting to be tricked, all works in his favour. Hence why its entertainment and not real. He is winning from the moment the tickets sell out to his show
@@franzbeck3177 I'm not referring to his psychological abilities. Just in general you can see he is an intelligent man.
stop liking your own comment. You see his intelligence, i see a very passive willing audience
This guy is amazing, id love to meet Derren
I love how much more playful Derren has become over the years. Instead of hawking pseudo-scientific mumbo jumbo about planting ideas through subliminal messaging, he now has fun with the crowd.
Why pseudo-scientific?
His entire act is deliberately peppered with pseudo science. For instance, the Monty Hall problem. Yes that would have real application in normal circumstances. But it's pseudo science to pretend that it has meaning in the workings of a magic trick! He constantly flatters the audience's modicum or largeness alike of knowledge about 'respected' fields such as mathematics, pretending that they could or should have any application in a magic trick.
@@Picnicl Which is absolutely brilliant because when it works, the mumbo jumbo sounds more and more credible until you can't help believing it.
Hell, I believed mentalism was real for years, all because of Derren's act.
This was 2011. He is totally different now (2021). But Rhewin was maybe thinking this is the new one.
@@MultiJejje no, his stuff from the early-mid 2000s.
Absolutely brilliant!!!
I watched a hypnotist on stage once. He had hynotized 7 guys when he accidentally dropped the mike. He said "Oh fxxk me" and what happened after that will haunt me forever.
Damn!!! I wish I knew he was in NYC 3 years ago!!!
I just Googled "Derren Brown New York City Live Shows", and it looks like I've missed my opportunity.
I must have watched this at least ten times and “I’m a borderline national treasure!” makes me laugh every single time
He's a sweet genius. Love him.
Brilliant. Really.
When he was talking about the initials, I got DS as well!!! Mind blown 🤯🤯🤯
Derren: "Did you fart on a pupil's head and walk away?"
Teacher lady: "That's exactly what I did."
Me:
These type of comments are old and boring.
Maybe it’s an English thing but as an American I can’t figure out how to fart on a kid’s head
really,no offense,but grow up!
@@davidfrench1857 can some one explain what silence means when people do this is it eyes rolling to the ceiling or something?
This is great. Love the hard work!!
Svengali was a fictional character. Mr. Brown is incredible, and Glenn Miller’s In The Mood was a nice touch.
Totally amazing, and at light-speed!!!
What an amazing show that was thank you for the full upload!!
Awesome. I really appreciate this is being shared
I have seen this twice before already I think, but every time I get pleasantly surprised! Thanks, Darren! Also, please do a show in Shanghai! I know language plays a big part in this, but please, I really want to take part in one of your shows. Feel like a child.
🙏
HIS NAME IS DERREN !
Fascinating! Haven't watched you since you were on Rogan, this was a great watch.
Derren you are the master! Love your work. Thanks for making this episode available.
watch the film hugo
I love you Derren Brown!!!!!
He's like a real life Dr. House.
Insanely talented, smart, and aware.
I guess the way he can read people just falls into a blend of those qualities.
I have no idea how he makes those guesses from cold reading. He seems like he's genuinely enjoying himself on set too.
His brain is just so sharp. Very entertaining. I'm glad I get to see this.
6:45 Just this alone was impressive, haha.
Derren you're the best!!!
Aw thanks for uploading
love this show
"left arm... write the initials of ... Devil ... Sinister"
"Doll, Svengali" probably reinforces ?
He's also such a top bloke that after the audience sings happy birthday, I think he *touches her arm* when saying "never forget that, that's lovely" to lock in a powerful happy memory. Physical cue with an instruction is a hypnosis thing I think
insanely captivating, and eerily good
The first time I watched Svengali I was like 9 and I was afraid of it for years
Isnt this a reupload mr brown? Good stuff. I liked this
This isn't his channel, it's a fan-made one. He has his own youtube channel with some nice more personal videos :)
@@lucasmano8187 What's the name of that channel?
@@creeperhack1293 It's also named Derren Brown, here you go: th-cam.com/channels/_RhBfwbg5029C5JL6uAtyw.html
Clever tricks he uses from the dude writing the initials on with the doll by heavy emphasis on words beginning with D and then S right before.
"Yeah, we'll do it tonight, we'll do it tonight with Matt"
- Derren Brown
Keep the hand and the level of your eye!
WTH ??? This guy is so much fun to watch ! :)
14:52, left side of the screen, guy with pink shirt, is that Dennis from Always Sunny in Philadelphia?
Hell yes, get that proper ad revenue!
Derren is the best
I wish he would do an episode where he explains how he did these tricks. It would be very interesting and entertaining and show how smart he is how he came up with them
It would be a very boring show, since half of the explanations would be "I went to a magic shop and bought this prop"
@@sfdntk the worst one was the time he had to guess what order coloured beads were in. he just put his hands over his eyes and when the person was putting in the beads they were distracted so he looked through his fingers.
you're watching it and say, "wow how the hell did he do that?" sarcastically
WON'T ever happen. The general public has no right to know how.
@@randysager3660 The public really doesn't want to know. The reason why magicians don't reveal their secrets isn't because it's highly guarded. It's because the real explanations are almost always extremely dull and disappointing.
@@Lady-Seashell-Bikini I gave been a magician for over 50 years. I'm well aware.
Absolutely brilliant Mr Brown.
I applaud you. 🌹
He reminds me of David Tennant's Dr Who when he would go on one of those long rambles.
Someone has said it before, but it would be cool if Derren got into proper acting and played the Master.
This is just great
First timer here. Excellent. ;)
Dude his shows give me chills more than any other magician. Because he even lets u in on the fact it’s all an act- then proceeds to fool u anyways- like how the fuck...
clearly messes with the box when he puts his hand behind
@Swiss YEAH THAT'S RELEVANT ! :/
Three boxes with more than one 'back' wall. Each secretly containing a shoe behind the false 'back' wall too!
This guy is my idol
Mine also.
10:12 no one ever changes their mind.
I always wonder how Derren does it
suggestion mostly and the direct command ''stick, stick with number 3'' among other tricks
36:42 Look at what is inside this ladys hand... She has the symbol from the doll in here hand... but why?? It looks like some kind of tattoo or drawing... weird
So underrated!!!!!!!
23:38 She says “oh fuck, yeah” right?
Yes. Yes, she does.
Consumate showman. A treasure.
1:08:05 is the truly fabulous.
You are one of my biggest heroes, I so wish I could be your protege.
I admire him too! Have you ever read much about NLP (neuro-linguistic programming)? That's a really good starting point for beginning to understand what he does. It's fascinating actually.
Who are you talking to?
@@goose300183 I have not, thank you, I'll look into it
@@blueribenaberry Derren Brown, who else?
"Stop the fun! Stop the fun! Stop the balloon related fun!"
sounds like something trump would say at a rally if he was british
I like how he works the monty hall problem into the start
16:25 That's the longest one of those bags I've ever seen, Luke Skywalker would be proud...
1:08:04 The way she gets the binoculars out 😂😂😂
He explains how Devil means blah blah then how Sinister means blah blah, DS. Matt was just waiting to hear these two words obviously...
I love that Derren makes me confront the impossible