@@cptcatf1sh Not shade. He was leading an army that was just a few degrees more formal than a guerrilla army. It had to maintain its cohesion as a military threat to the British.
@@johngumlover-zr8utwhich in of itself is can be a ability which can lead, and historically did lead to military victory(in terms of how battle tactics of that era effected outcomes of course the "real" reasons are a history degrees worth of leaning to cover)
So, the American Revolutionary War is really interesting from the perspective of British strategy. As you mentioned, they didn't commit as many troops as they reasonably could, but they did commit a LOT of money. Like A LOT of money. Mainly because they were worried (and were almost correct) that a full committal of their forces to America would result in the French fully entering the war on the Americans' side, leaving the home islands very exposed to the French.
The French and Spanish attempted an invasion which could have worked if there was not an outbreak of disease. They had meshed their navies to combat the British.
@@johnnotrealname8168 Exactly. The French and Spanish navies at the time were no laughing matter, and the British were well aware of that. The attempted invasion might well have even worked despite the disease if there had been a full force committal to America.
@@johnnotrealname8168 They failed that invasion because of the battle of Trafalgar, after losing a lot of ships in a storm. Then out played by britains greatest naval commander.
« London » is renamed to « Domaine Français » (French Domain) when France takes a mission, Laith :) this mission also makes the Tower of London give more max absolutism effect
George Washington according to some other history channels I've watched was great at leading people and big picture strategies, but pretty bad at fair up-front engagements, Benedict Arnold was also known for being a great on-the-field general. That is probably why they have such stats.
I always saw George Washington as a mediocre tactician but great manager of great minds. He was always willing to listen to the opinions and criticisms of his people and take them to heart. More than that, He had an almost supernatural ability to determine whether suggestions from his generals were good or bad and then act on the good ones. History is full of otherwise great generals who were convinced to make bad decisions by their men or who ignored precent advice on their way to tragedy. George Washington on the other hand seemed to always follow the great advice while properly disregarding the bad advice.
@@johnmcmacer1482 I disagree about him being a worse commander. He has many accomplishments on the battlefield against a superior foe. He kept his army alive against a larger, better trained force in New York. He defeated the Hessian at Trenton. He captured the British army at Yorktown. Not all great generals manage armies on individual tactical genius. Some are great commanders because they are capable of martialing the abilities of others to a common purpose.
The reason Star Spangled Banner and O' Canada start with O' is since they were both originally poems. A technique for writing poems in the 1800s, when the poems were written, was to begin with the word "O' " to display a pure, unadulterated emotion. In the case of Star Spangled Banner and O' Canada, the emotion is one of amazement and pride in the land that's being written about.
BTW, the poem that became the American anthem was originally a poem celebrating a victory over the Barbary pirates. It dunks on Laith's heritage TWICE.
37:50 Florry did a campaign as Ulm for a world conquest, but the catch is he had to stay as an OPM until 1600. It was to prove that you can WC as anyone as long as you're decently set up in 1600.
>British man plays America during the revolutionary war. >Immediately fires Washington Damn, Washington can't stay in any British-run army even in a video game, can he?
12:27 "Media Offline" flashes for one frame. One question: why..? (if anyone reading this wants to see the actual frame in detail, you can use , to go back one frame and . to go forward, which is how I found and read the frame after I noticed something flash on screen)
Probably the screen recording app's bug. The timing is really interesting tho. So Laith said "I don't see what the Netherlands has to do with me". In the middle of it I see a diffrent frame. Then I see media error. I am dissapointed btw I expected some subliminal message bout what Netherlands done to US.
This is super interesting as a American, Laith viewing "cowabunga" as a AMERICAN saying versus a Cali saying is wild. As a note there is like 4 Major splits with the US. East and West and North and South. And each area thinks the others are weird af
To be completely fair, I live on the border the South and Midwest. Technically we are considered in the South, but our area is a decent sized city in Southern KY, and you won't hear more than a taste of Southern accent on anyone, and most of us consider ourselves not MidWest or Northern, but NOT from the South. Tbh, everyone is weird af.
being from the northeast US and having travelled all over the US, I can confirm that everyone from everywhere here is just uniquely weird in their own ways
Fun Fact: California, as well as Southern United States, Northern United States, West Coast, and East Coast, are all in the United States of America. Therefore, things from there, are from America… The more you know Yes this was sarcasm
george washington's got low stats cause he really wasn't an especially good military commander. What he WAS great at was recognizing people that are more skilled than him and at motivating the soldiers, which is why he became the leader of the revolution and the country. In terms of actual combat skill he wasn't anything special
Sorry, pretty much all American sayings are just old British sayings that the Brits gave up using when we started using them. The ones that aren't are all movie references from the 1920s onward.
To answer your question on why we elected an english person, it's because everyone that could be elected was born a british subject. Martin Van Buren, the 8th president elected in 1836, was the first American president because he was born after the 4th of July 1776 :D
While it hurts my American Soul to say, Washington wasn't that great of a strategist or tactician. He was excellent at maneuvering troops and pulled a draw from defeat multiple times. What he was good at was listing to and taking on the counsel of others, and the brilliance of his generals such as Nathanael Greene and Lafayette played a massive role in the eventual triumph of the Continental Army.
@@KingAlton9403 Americans are obligated to do this. There is a scene in The American President (1995) which does it well: "Oh yes he does A.J., I'm a citizen. This is my President, and in this Country it's not only permissible to question our leaders, it's our responsibility!" When did Americans lose their lofty ideals: ( th-cam.com/video/HKTqS4bXugg/w-d-xo.html )?
Washington wasn't a particularly good general. Throughout the Revolutionary War, he only won three battles: Trenton, Princeton, and Yorktown. He was just very good at avoiding outright defeats (also, that Yorktown victory was kind of important, since it led to the British surrender).
One time I played america and was determined to take all of the British colonies in North america. The war slogged on and took until 1803 when I finally won
37:50 I once was doing a very casual Mughals campaign where I decided to do a WC very late into the game, I was in about 1700s and I basically only had India and Persia and parts of SEA. I kept playing it casual and the final province I cored in my WC was literally on January 1821.
Also, to be fair to how many British sayings we have, America preserved much of that era's slang, and ways of speech as 'their identity' while Britain continued to evolve away from it.
Dude, look up benedict Arnold... IRL he defected to the british and fought the americans. Really funny that he is a hero in your playthrough, I heard his name and I immediately was like "wait wut".
laith.. dont click the minor inconvenience pop up button.. if ur over extended & u click it, another one will pop up quicker.. if u leave it on the screen u will get fewer unrest bonuses until coring is done
As an American I say merica to your British face and remind you that you needed us to save you during ww1 and ww2. That being said you are my favorite brit laith keep making great content
As an American myself, it can be difficult to find grand things to say sometimes. However, at the period, "the American Experiment" was revolutionary. The first major Republic in the world since antiquity.
What is also fascinating as you say later that "five years Canada will be ours", a lot of early America did desire that Canada join the Union, it was seen as natural that both Anglo-American colonies would unify together in a bid to break away from the British. When that didn't go as planned it was a decent shock for some people.
The thing about George Washington is that generally speaking he was an okay general in terms of tactics and actually quite good in terms of strategy. The reality is his skills in generalship were not enough to compensate for the fact that his army, on average, was quite bad. Had he been given a reasonably competent professional European army (let's not get greedy), he most likely would've defeated Howe some time between the Battle of New York and the historical Battle of Trenton. He would not have won New York most likely, however, because the terrain favored the British. Garrisoning the various islands that made up New York City would've led to the British surrounding and cutting off each detachment with their navy, giving them the luxury of defeating each in detail, professional army or no professional army. This almost exactly happened historically had it not been for that foggy night that allowed Washington to sneak his army out of the trap. The smarter play would've been to position this new professional army on favorable ground outside New York City and wait for Howe to come to him. He most likely had political reasons to fight for New York. But with a professional army he would've found it much easier to reconstitute his army once across in New Jersey and would've been able to fight Howe on much more reasonable terms.
Interesting that the Devs put so much effort into these start dates but then they don't have the colonies being allied with their mother countries (or England being Anglican). Yeah, it makes it easier to Manifest Destiny all of New Spain and Newfoundland as the US but it makes no sense, even by EU4's own rules (and actual history), that you shouldn't have to struggle to get any colonial land. On the other hand, annexing New Spain's ample gold mines is pretty awesome. I've never managed to make the Revolution work out, though. I just started after the war to skip the headache or, more likely, resorting to console commands (but you get Washington as your starting president that way). Also, wars make everyone broke. Frowny face emoji. Addendum: If you think America having a goal to take Quebec in their mission tree is odd, you'll really dislike most of Europe's trees. But, yeah, it's odd that Quebec is included in the mission to take Ohio. You'd think it would be a separate thing since those two areas are a bit different from a geopolitical goal standpoint. At least they bothered giving this late-game formable nation some of it's actual goals (even if they didn't ever manage to get some of them [like a lot of countries, actually]). They could have just went full generic and called it a day. Also, you can keep playing past 1821 if you're not in Ironman. Seems odd but I guess it's some kind of anti-cheating thing? Granted, I usually don't play to the end, but there it is.
There is an incredible way TONS of money as this start. See you paid off your debt, but what If I told you there was a way to take on Infinite debt? Well you see, there is an amazing event around 1800 where Alexander Hamilton asks to set up the National Bank. One option gives you like 1000 ducats (which Laith probably immediately took), but the other option drops your loan interest rate by 2.00%. That combined with economic ideas, parliament, policies gets you down to 1.00% Interest Rate Loans. ONE PERCENT. Which yes means less loan interest expenses, but the game also recalculates the total amount of loans you can take out by an absurd amount. I took out 1000's of ducats of loans immediately and built manufactories in every single high value province I could. Then I used all my diplo points for the rest of the game on developing provinces. This both increased income, but also the loan totals. So pretty soon I was able to take out 10k ducats in loans, then build more, then 20k, then more, then 30k and so on. By the end of the game I had taken out 200k ducats in loans, had manufactories in every province and all other buildings I could build, and I had the largest income in the world by like triple the 2nd place, like 1000's of ducats a month. I used that immense wealth to fight off the british, spanish, natives, and colonize every province I could all at once because I so much money. I had the largest army in the world as well. It was an incredible game. Also, the Americans get the most absurd generals in the world. If Laith had just kept rerolling generals at the beginning, he would have gotten a 6 6 easy and just destroyed the British right away.
Honestly the US could have easily lost it's war of independence. It's just rare to talk about it because a loss would massively change the trajectory of history
Yo ok so the fact the French have a core on the pass is really cool because that's in manatoba one of the two provinces of Canada to have French as an official language. They probably have a core because of the Matis who were descendents of French fur traders and native Americans.
The British ran out of money. So, yes, they send every man they could send. They were fighting the French, the Spanish, and the Dutch were sending aid. (That's the other three colonial powers.) The war lasted six years. That was a bare-knuckled fight.
fun fact; It was a commonly known fact that Americans were considered the *true* English up until 1960's as many in the United Kingdom, particularly London were considered impure having been conquered by the Normans. Common last names in the 1790's were as follows: Smith, Brown, Davis, Jones, Johnson, Clark, Williams, Miller, and Wilson.
its funny you just did this playthru.. its almost like we have the same thoughts... i just started on the american independence date 2 days ago, but i played as released spanish nation (i forget the name) and formed CUBA asap.. i was expecting a fun but tough fight against America later, but Paradox has made it virtually impossible for America to win.. they got their asses kicked easily by England & 13 colonies (80k troops?) vs America (30k?) - You would think that paradox would add something to the game to make it more likely for America to win? like France being against england from the beginning (not historically accurate but it would help them survive maybe?) or give them some special troops that are amazing in defence? or more forts to slow englands advance? what this game doesnt take into account is historical things that gave America an advantage - like hit & run tactics (guerrilla warfare) - the fact that the local people will help the revolutionaries and maybe hinder the British... and the fact that Britain didnt actually want to have a long war killing tons of Americans and making them hate the British... the truth about the real history of the war, is they were hoping it would be a quick easy war.. Britain didnt send all their troops.. they could have won, but at the cost of removing troops from other places worldwide and at killing many more americans... having a colony that hated british rule even more... and eventually they would lose in the long term anyway.. and i think at that time America wasnt particularly profitable compared to asia etc. the fact that in this game tech and number of troops and discipline and moral are pretty much the only factors on whether a nation could win.. and cos the ai is dumb as hell.. you would think paradox would add something to hinder Britain in winning, like spawning in rebels constantly on british troops to weaken them?
It wasn't that the British couldn't send everyone they could. It's that the British army at the time, for every part of the world that Britain had to enforce their authority had a grand total of 90k Soldiers. This meant with 90k men they not only had to fight the fledgling US army, but also the French, Spanish, Dutch and a few kingdoms within India at the same time (The wars in India were separate from this war)
The US would've lost easily if they didn't had tons of support from the French and also they had Prussian military advisors which actually gave them a competent army (I might be biased) Before that they had 3 soldiers and a bunch of civilians with guns. Not very great isn't it? Not to mention the British had a big army and navy... I still wonder how they lost so easily. Edit: Should've not deleted the forts again huh Laith?
I think people tend to overstate the impact of foreign support on the success of the US. France didn't offer any support until late into the war, after the tide had turned against the British. France was broke from the 7 Years War and was only willing to offer aid if they were sure that the British were going to lose. The actual material help from the Spanish and Dutch was rather low, though their impact in expanding the scope of the war was an important factor in Britain's surrender. The US won through its own merit (though help from the Prussian commander whose name I can't remember was crucial in giving the continental army proper training) Morocco *was* the first country to recognize the US and I don't know where we'd be without their help /s
I find it really cool that you ended the war 2 days before it ended irl. You finished September 1st, 1783, the war ended the 3rd irl.
Washington should have top tier maneuver, as he regularly was able to withdraw the continental army from its frequent defeats.
he is a 226 tho
maybe it was a 5 actually
The shade being thrown is unreal
@@cptcatf1sh Not shade. He was leading an army that was just a few degrees more formal than a guerrilla army. It had to maintain its cohesion as a military threat to the British.
Washington was a very mediocre general who just was able to hide and runaway
@@johngumlover-zr8utwhich in of itself is can be a ability which can lead, and historically did lead to military victory(in terms of how battle tactics of that era effected outcomes of course the "real" reasons are a history degrees worth of leaning to cover)
So, the American Revolutionary War is really interesting from the perspective of British strategy. As you mentioned, they didn't commit as many troops as they reasonably could, but they did commit a LOT of money. Like A LOT of money. Mainly because they were worried (and were almost correct) that a full committal of their forces to America would result in the French fully entering the war on the Americans' side, leaving the home islands very exposed to the French.
The French and Spanish attempted an invasion which could have worked if there was not an outbreak of disease. They had meshed their navies to combat the British.
@@johnnotrealname8168 Exactly. The French and Spanish navies at the time were no laughing matter, and the British were well aware of that. The attempted invasion might well have even worked despite the disease if there had been a full force committal to America.
American independence turns into 1066 part 2
@@prestonjones1653The best timeline
@@johnnotrealname8168 They failed that invasion because of the battle of Trafalgar, after losing a lot of ships in a storm. Then out played by britains greatest naval commander.
You should do a video playing as Jerusalem during the 3rd crusade. I tried and I couldn’t do it, and it would be interesting to see it be done
Is that part of the extended timeline mod?
@@garethmcguinness377 Yeah
I think he already did
He did with the mod of kingdom of heaven
« London » is renamed to « Domaine Français » (French Domain) when France takes a mission, Laith :) this mission also makes the Tower of London give more max absolutism effect
George Washington according to some other history channels I've watched was great at leading people and big picture strategies, but pretty bad at fair up-front engagements, Benedict Arnold was also known for being a great on-the-field general. That is probably why they have such stats.
I always saw George Washington as a mediocre tactician but great manager of great minds. He was always willing to listen to the opinions and criticisms of his people and take them to heart. More than that, He had an almost supernatural ability to determine whether suggestions from his generals were good or bad and then act on the good ones. History is full of otherwise great generals who were convinced to make bad decisions by their men or who ignored precent advice on their way to tragedy. George Washington on the other hand seemed to always follow the great advice while properly disregarding the bad advice.
@@braxonbetter leader worse commander
@@johnmcmacer1482 I disagree about him being a worse commander. He has many accomplishments on the battlefield against a superior foe. He kept his army alive against a larger, better trained force in New York. He defeated the Hessian at Trenton. He captured the British army at Yorktown. Not all great generals manage armies on individual tactical genius. Some are great commanders because they are capable of martialing the abilities of others to a common purpose.
mhmmm sucked at the tactics and strategy but getting people together and keeping them together he was great at.
@@braxon "I had rather be on my farm than be emperor of the world" George Washington after being offered to be King of the USA. Great man.
“Shout out to Benedict Arnold” - Laith, 4th of July, 2023
‘Benedict Arnold’ a name synonymous with ‘traitor’…
The reason Star Spangled Banner and O' Canada start with O' is since they were both originally poems. A technique for writing poems in the 1800s, when the poems were written, was to begin with the word "O' " to display a pure, unadulterated emotion. In the case of Star Spangled Banner and O' Canada, the emotion is one of amazement and pride in the land that's being written about.
O' is a word for calling the far
O' PugalshishOfficial rise up
@@bozomori2287 dost thou makest fun of my name?
I feel both attacked, and begrudgingly agreeing with nearly every sentence... This is the content I signed up for.
BTW, the poem that became the American anthem was originally a poem celebrating a victory over the Barbary pirates. It dunks on Laith's heritage TWICE.
Ah yes the famous quote by George Washington: "Cowabunga."
1:05 Laith really picked the man, the myth, the traitor Benedict Arnold as his general
EU4's start dates after the first 2 are really cursed.
I always wondered if there is any start date that puts you in a better place than you'd be if you started in 1444?
@@warpath8453Russia could be the only one?
@@warpath8453Aq Qoyunlu in ~1508
@@warpath8453sweden has a start where it's independent and has a free pu over norway
37:50 Florry did a campaign as Ulm for a world conquest, but the catch is he had to stay as an OPM until 1600. It was to prove that you can WC as anyone as long as you're decently set up in 1600.
>British man plays America during the revolutionary war.
>Immediately fires Washington
Damn, Washington can't stay in any British-run army even in a video game, can he?
Can you do an Iceland with Norse religion into USA guide? that could be so much fun
I think he tried that once but hated himself for attempting it 😂
Laith try playing Coptic spain it sounds like a funny idea
still not as cursed as Inti Spain.
12:27 "Media Offline" flashes for one frame. One question: why..? (if anyone reading this wants to see the actual frame in detail, you can use , to go back one frame and . to go forward, which is how I found and read the frame after I noticed something flash on screen)
Probably the screen recording app's bug. The timing is really interesting tho. So Laith said "I don't see what the Netherlands has to do with me". In the middle of it I see a diffrent frame. Then I see media error. I am dissapointed btw I expected some subliminal message bout what Netherlands done to US.
@@Donerci_Pikacu_Usta same
This is super interesting as a American, Laith viewing "cowabunga" as a AMERICAN saying versus a Cali saying is wild. As a note there is like 4 Major splits with the US. East and West and North and South. And each area thinks the others are weird af
To be completely fair, I live on the border the South and Midwest. Technically we are considered in the South, but our area is a decent sized city in Southern KY, and you won't hear more than a taste of Southern accent on anyone, and most of us consider ourselves not MidWest or Northern, but NOT from the South.
Tbh, everyone is weird af.
being from the northeast US and having travelled all over the US, I can confirm that everyone from everywhere here is just uniquely weird in their own ways
Fun Fact: California, as well as Southern United States, Northern United States, West Coast, and East Coast, are all in the United States of America. Therefore, things from there, are from America…
The more you know
Yes this was sarcasm
And then there's the Midwest
@@kgapaneseschoolgirlbActually all roads leading to California are Gates of Oblivion because California is located in hell
I love how youtube thinks he's playing EU1
Windsor is a suburbish of Detroit right over the border, just a bit west of London (not the English one)
george washington's got low stats cause he really wasn't an especially good military commander. What he WAS great at was recognizing people that are more skilled than him and at motivating the soldiers, which is why he became the leader of the revolution and the country. In terms of actual combat skill he wasn't anything special
i think the level 8 fort in florida is supposed to represent castillo de san marcos famous for being near impervious to cannons
38:01 My first ever run in EU4 was a Castile world conquest in the year 3051 lol
"Do you not have issues at home!?"
The true early American experience.
SOYUUUUUUUZZ NERRRUMSHIMYYY…
I’ll stop before I’m killed…
Sorry, pretty much all American sayings are just old British sayings that the Brits gave up using when we started using them. The ones that aren't are all movie references from the 1920s onward.
YESSS a US game where it isn't just how to trick the achievement! An actual game where you play I've never been able to find a video of that
12:27 Media Offline? I expected some subliminal message bout what Netherlands done to US
Did anyone catch the irony at 18:55? For non-Americans, Benedict Arnold is notorious for being a traitor during the American Revolution lol
this is the only youtube video where the us pays off their debt
To be fair in the war of 1812 Britain did do something similar in going hardcore, kicking our ass and burning down the capital 😂
Laith went full mask off for this video
To answer your question on why we elected an english person, it's because everyone that could be elected was born a british subject. Martin Van Buren, the 8th president elected in 1836, was the first American president because he was born after the 4th of July 1776 :D
I can’t wait for the day that the UK graduates from being the U.S.’s sidekick.
I don't think they will, it used to be flipped and they've been trending downwards ever since
@@Jiub_SN Yep, the most obese nation in Europe since becoming the US's lap dog.
Chewyshoot put out a pretty cool mod that makes this start better and overhauls the USA
While it hurts my American Soul to say, Washington wasn't that great of a strategist or tactician. He was excellent at maneuvering troops and pulled a draw from defeat multiple times. What he was good at was listing to and taking on the counsel of others, and the brilliance of his generals such as Nathanael Greene and Lafayette played a massive role in the eventual triumph of the Continental Army.
You know what would be a fun challenge? Highest overextension that you can fully core without losing any land to the rebels.
I'm American and I also struggle to stop insulting the US
Same. But it's a good thing. We need to acknowledge the faults of our country in order to fix them.
That is your job though.
@@KingAlton9403based take brother
We also find it hard to not insult the UK lol
@@KingAlton9403 Americans are obligated to do this. There is a scene in The American President (1995) which does it well: "Oh yes he does A.J., I'm a citizen. This is my President, and in this Country it's not only permissible to question our leaders, it's our responsibility!" When did Americans lose their lofty ideals: ( th-cam.com/video/HKTqS4bXugg/w-d-xo.html )?
American more number one than every other number one added up. More number one in every other way.
Washington wasn't a particularly good general. Throughout the Revolutionary War, he only won three battles: Trenton, Princeton, and Yorktown. He was just very good at avoiding outright defeats (also, that Yorktown victory was kind of important, since it led to the British surrender).
Moose factory is in fact a real place
As a Canadian I feel like we caught some strays in this video.
Laith will do literally anything with sailors
40:30
Now i want to see laith playing with other nations in their independence day
Its surprising how basic the mission tree is.
One time I played america and was determined to take all of the British colonies in North america. The war slogged on and took until 1803 when I finally won
"I had rather be on my farm than be emperor of the world" - George Washington after being offered to be made King of America.
its like your friend's birthday you insult them after
37:50 I once was doing a very casual Mughals campaign where I decided to do a WC very late into the game, I was in about 1700s and I basically only had India and Persia and parts of SEA. I kept playing it casual and the final province I cored in my WC was literally on January 1821.
Also, to be fair to how many British sayings we have, America preserved much of that era's slang, and ways of speech as 'their identity' while Britain continued to evolve away from it.
Attacks every native possible, wonders why he gets curb stomped.
Dude, look up benedict Arnold... IRL he defected to the british and fought the americans. Really funny that he is a hero in your playthrough, I heard his name and I immediately was like "wait wut".
laith.. dont click the minor inconvenience pop up button.. if ur over extended & u click it, another one will pop up quicker.. if u leave it on the screen u will get fewer unrest bonuses until coring is done
As an American I say merica to your British face and remind you that you needed us to save you during ww1 and ww2. That being said you are my favorite brit laith keep making great content
As an American myself, it can be difficult to find grand things to say sometimes. However, at the period, "the American Experiment" was revolutionary. The first major Republic in the world since antiquity.
What is also fascinating as you say later that "five years Canada will be ours", a lot of early America did desire that Canada join the Union, it was seen as natural that both Anglo-American colonies would unify together in a bid to break away from the British. When that didn't go as planned it was a decent shock for some people.
As an American, this video did make me feel very Cowabunga...dude.
Let me too wish everyone a great 4th of July by celebrating the name of the great hero Benedict Arnold! :D
to be fair Battle Hymn of the Republic IS better than Star Spangled Banner
it was on this day laith learned what it truely means to be an american. hatred of the british.
Adam Norfolk, the lesser-known cousin of Edgar Suffolk
I can't decide between:
Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?
or
People are people so
Why should it be
The thing about George Washington is that generally speaking he was an okay general in terms of tactics and actually quite good in terms of strategy.
The reality is his skills in generalship were not enough to compensate for the fact that his army, on average, was quite bad. Had he been given a reasonably competent professional European army (let's not get greedy), he most likely would've defeated Howe some time between the Battle of New York and the historical Battle of Trenton.
He would not have won New York most likely, however, because the terrain favored the British. Garrisoning the various islands that made up New York City would've led to the British surrounding and cutting off each detachment with their navy, giving them the luxury of defeating each in detail, professional army or no professional army. This almost exactly happened historically had it not been for that foggy night that allowed Washington to sneak his army out of the trap.
The smarter play would've been to position this new professional army on favorable ground outside New York City and wait for Howe to come to him. He most likely had political reasons to fight for New York. But with a professional army he would've found it much easier to reconstitute his army once across in New Jersey and would've been able to fight Howe on much more reasonable terms.
anyone know what the deal is with the Media Offline thing for one frame was at 12:27?
Damn that creep me up
„Happy 4th of July everyone! But late EU4 is cursed ngl.
Interesting that the Devs put so much effort into these start dates but then they don't have the colonies being allied with their mother countries (or England being Anglican). Yeah, it makes it easier to Manifest Destiny all of New Spain and Newfoundland as the US but it makes no sense, even by EU4's own rules (and actual history), that you shouldn't have to struggle to get any colonial land. On the other hand, annexing New Spain's ample gold mines is pretty awesome. I've never managed to make the Revolution work out, though. I just started after the war to skip the headache or, more likely, resorting to console commands (but you get Washington as your starting president that way). Also, wars make everyone broke. Frowny face emoji. Addendum: If you think America having a goal to take Quebec in their mission tree is odd, you'll really dislike most of Europe's trees. But, yeah, it's odd that Quebec is included in the mission to take Ohio. You'd think it would be a separate thing since those two areas are a bit different from a geopolitical goal standpoint. At least they bothered giving this late-game formable nation some of it's actual goals (even if they didn't ever manage to get some of them [like a lot of countries, actually]). They could have just went full generic and called it a day. Also, you can keep playing past 1821 if you're not in Ironman. Seems odd but I guess it's some kind of anti-cheating thing? Granted, I usually don't play to the end, but there it is.
Got out of debt, not a real U.S. campaign
You get missions to take Canadian land because the US tried to "liberate" Canada both during the Revolution and during the War of 1812.
There is an incredible way TONS of money as this start. See you paid off your debt, but what If I told you there was a way to take on Infinite debt? Well you see, there is an amazing event around 1800 where Alexander Hamilton asks to set up the National Bank. One option gives you like 1000 ducats (which Laith probably immediately took), but the other option drops your loan interest rate by 2.00%. That combined with economic ideas, parliament, policies gets you down to 1.00% Interest Rate Loans. ONE PERCENT. Which yes means less loan interest expenses, but the game also recalculates the total amount of loans you can take out by an absurd amount. I took out 1000's of ducats of loans immediately and built manufactories in every single high value province I could. Then I used all my diplo points for the rest of the game on developing provinces. This both increased income, but also the loan totals. So pretty soon I was able to take out 10k ducats in loans, then build more, then 20k, then more, then 30k and so on. By the end of the game I had taken out 200k ducats in loans, had manufactories in every province and all other buildings I could build, and I had the largest income in the world by like triple the 2nd place, like 1000's of ducats a month. I used that immense wealth to fight off the british, spanish, natives, and colonize every province I could all at once because I so much money. I had the largest army in the world as well. It was an incredible game.
Also, the Americans get the most absurd generals in the world. If Laith had just kept rerolling generals at the beginning, he would have gotten a 6 6 easy and just destroyed the British right away.
I thought Kosciuszko would have better pips
You basically did a war of 1812 parts 1 and 2 about 30 years early.
40K to 100K? That sounds pretty evenly matched to me!
“I like those odds”
Honestly the US could have easily lost it's war of independence. It's just rare to talk about it because a loss would massively change the trajectory of history
Yo ok so the fact the French have a core on the pass is really cool because that's in manatoba one of the two provinces of Canada to have French as an official language. They probably have a core because of the Matis who were descendents of French fur traders and native Americans.
funny you do this when there are a mod spotlight from paradox featuring a US mod made by Chewy
Would’ve been a histrical usa if the second war was during 1812 lmao
The British ran out of money. So, yes, they send every man they could send. They were fighting the French, the Spanish, and the Dutch were sending aid. (That's the other three colonial powers.) The war lasted six years.
That was a bare-knuckled fight.
Adam Norfolk is just American Edgar Suffolk?
who has heard of Imperial Democracy ?
You should convert this savefile into victoria (2)! This'd be really interesting
fun fact; It was a commonly known fact that Americans were considered the *true* English up until 1960's as many in the United Kingdom, particularly London were considered impure having been conquered by the Normans. Common last names in the 1790's were as follows: Smith, Brown, Davis, Jones, Johnson, Clark, Williams, Miller, and Wilson.
but like, the english from england who came to the americas existed after the norman conquest
Some delicious British cope in this video. Hard to tell what I was watching LOL
Seething Euroid, love to see it
kowabunga!
Kowabonga it is
Benedict Arnold was historically a better tactician than George Washington. Washington was just a much better strategist.
Very accurate with usa debt today
The American Mythology around the revolution is not to be messed with, even with facts. Mel Gibson does not help
38:08 that would be a slow-run.
19:49 if you're trying to say Mi'kmaq It's pronounced Mig-maa or MiK-Maa
Source: I live in Atlantic canada
We called the British the red coats
21:23 Says he won't do that, after just telling us that he's role-playing the Americans 21:12, tsk, tsk, tsk.
its funny you just did this playthru.. its almost like we have the same thoughts... i just started on the american independence date 2 days ago, but i played as released spanish nation (i forget the name) and formed CUBA asap.. i was expecting a fun but tough fight against America later, but Paradox has made it virtually impossible for America to win.. they got their asses kicked easily by England & 13 colonies (80k troops?) vs America (30k?) - You would think that paradox would add something to the game to make it more likely for America to win? like France being against england from the beginning (not historically accurate but it would help them survive maybe?) or give them some special troops that are amazing in defence? or more forts to slow englands advance? what this game doesnt take into account is historical things that gave America an advantage - like hit & run tactics (guerrilla warfare) - the fact that the local people will help the revolutionaries and maybe hinder the British... and the fact that Britain didnt actually want to have a long war killing tons of Americans and making them hate the British... the truth about the real history of the war, is they were hoping it would be a quick easy war.. Britain didnt send all their troops.. they could have won, but at the cost of removing troops from other places worldwide and at killing many more americans... having a colony that hated british rule even more... and eventually they would lose in the long term anyway.. and i think at that time America wasnt particularly profitable compared to asia etc. the fact that in this game tech and number of troops and discipline and moral are pretty much the only factors on whether a nation could win.. and cos the ai is dumb as hell.. you would think paradox would add something to hinder Britain in winning, like spawning in rebels constantly on british troops to weaken them?
Laith as an American your doing great
does laith think america is catholic or something?
It wasn't that the British couldn't send everyone they could. It's that the British army at the time, for every part of the world that Britain had to enforce their authority had a grand total of 90k Soldiers. This meant with 90k men they not only had to fight the fledgling US army, but also the French, Spanish, Dutch and a few kingdoms within India at the same time (The wars in India were separate from this war)
Factually Incorrect.
Please, please stop complimenting Benedict Arnold. It hurts more than anything else you've said.
RAHHHHH A BRIT BRINGING US SOME FREEDOM🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅🦅
dont worry laith, as an american, i hate the the star spangled banner too
The story, the song, or both?
The US would've lost easily if they didn't had tons of support from the French and also they had Prussian military advisors which actually gave them a competent army (I might be biased) Before that they had 3 soldiers and a bunch of civilians with guns. Not very great isn't it? Not to mention the British had a big army and navy... I still wonder how they lost so easily.
Edit: Should've not deleted the forts again huh Laith?
I think people tend to overstate the impact of foreign support on the success of the US. France didn't offer any support until late into the war, after the tide had turned against the British. France was broke from the 7 Years War and was only willing to offer aid if they were sure that the British were going to lose. The actual material help from the Spanish and Dutch was rather low, though their impact in expanding the scope of the war was an important factor in Britain's surrender. The US won through its own merit (though help from the Prussian commander whose name I can't remember was crucial in giving the continental army proper training)
Morocco *was* the first country to recognize the US and I don't know where we'd be without their help /s
Ah yes, the French, the Dutch, the Prussians and the Spanish sent help to the US just to show their middle finger to the British.
Wonderful 😂
@@Gamereal6286 yeah 😂 pretty funny how it backfired on all of them as well
@@ffreeze9924repayed in ww2 lol
@@warpath8453 nothing more American than not paying people back o7