The Full Story of the Regulators and the Arlington Cemetary - Fallout 3 Lore
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Regulators = DC Minutemen
Bloomin’ JooJ AnOtHeR SeTtLeMeNt NeEdS YoUr HeLp
@@irishgopnik6559 HeRe, I'Ll MaRk It On YoUr MaP!
Irish Gopnik Do people actually still make that joke? *Sighs*
@@MisterJohnDoe Yes they do!
@@MisterJohnDoe I come to you 8 months later to tell you that the joke has become more annoying than the thing they are based off of and that people still think it's the funniest shit.
In the official Fallout 3 guide it says the raider thought Lincoln was some kind of deity!
That confirms more too.
MissingNO 000 “OH ABE LINCOLN LET YOIR GODLY FORTUNE SMILE UPON ME” is what I imagine he says every morning
@@stickmanmageofthelordtacha4917 well at least he was devout to his beliefs, that escapes some murderers out there.
Arlington cemetery was built I’m mrs lees rosegarden
I could see that. Yknow, with the way that portrait was put where it was.
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"Hey there boy."
"Your life is forfeit. You will rue the day you trusted me. Hail Caesar."
"I love you, too, buddy"
Derp this is fucking amazing
What does this mean?!
@@Unknown-dq2cj it means nothing. It's just a dumb word
@@Brando216 I dont get it...
Derp GODDAMNIT SHE IS ONE OF THE LEGION, BUT SHIT I COULD NEVER KILL HER.
"Oasis...but that is a story for another day"
Oxhorn is the Storyteller confirmed
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WE SEE OXHORN AND THE STORYTELLER TALK EACH OTHER’S EARS OFF, EXCEPT IT’S LITERAL!
Yo, imagine if one day Shoddycast did an episode of Storyteller or Psycho where he took off his helmet finally and it was Oxhorn’s face and voice underneath!
@@97Multiphantom I wish he'd do a mod muster for it, it's something he'd find fascinating.
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Ox: "I found the only green things in Fallout 3 here in this graveyard."
Me: *looks at sky*
Ah the Regulators. Made killing the Talon Company fools so much fun.
@@admiralgaius9796 so chaotic good is not to your liking i assume?
Law bringer is so much better than contract killer
@@admiralgaius9796 I'm with you - had the regulators hassling me just because I had the temerity to sell Raiders into slavery rather than killing them outright
@@Mikey-xz4vn Um, you are still supporting slavery even if you sell bad people into slavery. Thats why you get evil karma no matter who you enslave.
Put this way. You might only be selling raiders. But *insert music* Eulogy Jones will make caps selling those raiders, caps he can use to pay other needs to kidnap innocents.
Always joined the Regulators, loved turning in 100 fingers to get an ass load of caps...
You realize you can get more caps from Littlehorn right?
I’m not sure why you would wait until 100 fingers and then turn them in, but whatever.
Just walkin around with 100 fingers in your pockets... I approve
Sounds like a large sack o fingees. Making that sweet cha chingle (cuz they're caps)
Ikr, I loved dressing like a cowboy ranger hunting down evil assholes with my 44. Revolver and my badass Lincoln repeater rifle whoo hoo 🔫😎
I think that while the Regulators can't prove each finger you bring is from someone evil, they find you to be trustworthy. This would be one reason why your level and karma have to reach a certain amount- talented enough to destroy evil, honorable enough to bring one finger from each villain. I wish that there were side quests about this, though. Imagine having to validate somebody's kills, hunt down a traitor, recruit new members or even just take on more bounties!
"No green in sight"
Yeah, except everything has a green tint.
Ty That's just the radiation.
Mossy500A nope
@Casswury I was being facetious.
@@darthseverus89, it was a joke, shithead.
@@TySama0 no, shithead.
8:46 he says booze in a magical way
Regulator Duster may not offer the best protection, but IIRC, it is hands down the coolest looking outfit in the game.
It's great if you go early for the Luck bobblehead. I use the Ultimate Perk Packs. One of which enables Lawbringer or Contract Killer at level 6 instead of 14.
Pairs well with early to mid game sneaky sniper. Light armor for sneak.
If you play with legitimate carry weight, it's a useful multipurpose clothing item. CH + 1 = Speech + 2, Barter + 2.
Not if you have mods
Omni Wolf No shit.
I took the Lawbringer & the Contract Killer perk...for the moment I’m playing a character that does some good and bad
So… console commands
I think the Lincoln shrine may have been left by the Temple of the Union or one of its supporters while they were staying there. They are one of the few groups in the wasteland who know who he is and worship him like a god. They even have a quest where they ask you to help them retake the Lincoln Memorial from the Slavers so that they can fix his statue.
Arlington house was just sort of a lazy mistake in the creation of Fallout 3. They didn't bother to make it like Lee's home and just stuck a generic family home there.
I always just thought it was the groundskeeper's house and Robert E Lee's house had been bulldozed in the Fallout timeline
@@Mikey-xz4vn Same, although I'd imagine it was flattened in the war. The power of a nuclear explosion may have leveled enough of it that the rest could be looted or fall apart over time
Well I remember people actually l giving this game hate not because the game play itself. but because it shows pieces of American history destroyed. yes they were mad about fallout 3 being post-apocalyptic no you're not the only one that face palmed when I saw that.
@@Mikey-xz4vn i thought that as well.
Looking at the hard core pro American Democratic system and freedoms it brought, wich if you look around in the fallout there are not touch Confederate items or statues, maybe a prediction of the future?:0
Gotta remember that the Fallout universe isn't supposed to be a mirror image of ours
Maybe the people living in the home were caretakers of the cemetery, and they also had a kid
REGULATOOORS MOUNT UP!
I see what you did there
Rip Nate Dog
MOUNT UP!
I remember taking both perks on my kill everyone run. Got a TON of money.
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nikolai 1939 well thats your opinion dude.
I Know Where You Live any one elses vid going black
Veríssimo Gomes have you heard that song called pique alemanha im not from brazil but lpve some of your music
What if the regulators are paid by the Institute? The world may never know
bobby stenman The real question is how many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop? The World may never know
Or maybe the brotherhood
Looks like a perfect spot for a flower den
Little Savage123 at least it's not raining.
Can someone explain what the luck bobble head means when it says, “There’s only one way to give 110%” ?
You can only give up to 100%, only way to get that last 10% is through dumb luck.
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Nothing, right, right... (under breath) cannibals.
I've had Fallout for a year and never played it, but your channel got me into it and Im now like 15 hours into it. The way you talk about Fallout makes it feel so special.
I visited Arlington a few years ago. It is quite overwhelming and both sad and beautiful.
There's an easy way to understand the difference between right/left fingers. They will always point away from each other (left will point left, right will point right.
Actually, the union original asked General Lee to lead their army. He refused solely because his family lived in the south. He had no immediate issue with Lincoln.
Volstad Germaine yeah he said nothing opposing what youre saying friend...
Robert e Lee is truly the most gentlemanly of generals. We look up to him a lot down south.
Wel Lincoln was a murderer
Volstad Germaine, the issues of the southern states that claimed "States Rights" and pulled anchor, seperated, and formed the Confederate States of America (CSA) did not find fault in President Lincoln. It was the ever expanding overstepping their bounds by the federal government, the extreme increase in taxation (sound familiar) and who had the authority the fed or the state. aka States Rights.
The Civil War was NOT fought over slavery and its abolishment. No Sir! President Lincoln stated, "If I could save this Union by freeing no slaves, I would do it. If I could save this Union by freeing one slave, I would do it. If I could save this Union by freeing every slave, I would do it! I paraphrased some of his speech but we know which option he chose. 2nd best thing President Lincoln did was sign in the Bill that reinstated every Confederate Soldier, living and dead as American Citizens and prevented any military tribunals, treason court trials and executions. Since the Civil War, NO STATE has a right to withdraw from the Union or deny any freedom or request granted or asked of any state by the Federal Gov.
Stephen Lee, we all are. Your money has paid either myself or any other US Marine or Soldier who has had to kill another mother fucker in any war fought under, for, or beside the American Flag and/or the UN....
19:25 Reminds me of a line from Knights of the Old Republic.
Q: "Why pay for the gaffi sticks? Why not their heads?"
A: "Which would you rather have dumped on your office floor?"
That brings back memories
Tatoonie Cerka Office? Been a while 😅
Oh shit. Honest Hearts...that means Joshua Graham...that means THE SURVIVALIST! Hell yes!
Do lore about the Talking Tree. He seems very interesting.
EmEnAach Harold?
Yeah he is interesting he's from some of the original fallout games too but that was before he became a tree
Also, Harold's tree has a name. It's Bob.
brep or herbert
An entire video on Harold would be one hell of an undertaking on Ox's part, would be pretty awesome to see though
They turned Harold into fucking tree. WTF Bethesda!
Thank you for covering Arlington Oxhorn. It is truly a sobering place... having two of my fellow cavalrymen buried there it holds alot of personal emotions for me. Everytime I wander the wasteland I stop by and pay my digital respects to our honored dead.
1) there is cameras in the wasteland they can send in an scout for the target photograph him or if they are really sharp memorize the shape of their hands or ears & draw it
2) there is absolutely ways to distinguish a left from a right finger by how the joints flex for one the shape of the nail mainly.
"a shrine to... Abraham Lincoln?!" *Boisterous oxhorn laughter*
For Fallout 3 I'd love to see a video on Clover. You have to be evil to get her to be your companion but I'd be interested in knowing about her.
Maybe one day, he could talk about mama Murphy ( but I bet ox already has plans ) maybe one day though, maybe one day
You know, honestly? I'd played this game for years and it didn't occur to me to look into the Regulators. This was fun to learn about and I wanna go play this lovely game all over again now. :3
In my game I first saw them one day in-front of rivet city , their orders were to kill me but the rivet city guards helped me kill them
Joined both, one on each run. My good karma is a ballistic weapon regulator, my evil karma is an energy weapons littlehorn contractor and my neutral is a melee weapons neutral.
I thought that said "Argonian Cemetery" XD
How very inappropriate.
Wrong game.
A M GOD NO
The first time I ever went to Washington DC was in 2008, in October. The whole city was plastered with Fallout 3 advertisements, and the Metro stops (many of which from the game I actually ended up stopping at and taking advantage of) had lifesize stickers of Brotherhood Paladins in power armor affixed to pillars around the escalators. Seeing all this I was a bit shocked, I didn’t have an Xbox 360 or PS3 at the time so I didn’t get the significance of the advertisements. Seeing all these wonderful historical places in the city and then turning around about 2 months after that and getting an Xbox and playing Fallout 3 was so interesting, the synchronicity of the design of the virtual city that lay in ruins and the modern real life equivalent was amazing. I’ll never forget that week in Washington, being caught up in some of the coolest history in the world as well as one of the most interesting media campaigns ever was an experience I’ll never forget. I love this game, thank you Ox for exploring it so much, so well.
Fun Fact: Billy the Kid started out as a member of a gang of vigilantes committed to fighting back against an alliance of corrupt ranch owners and lawmen called The House. Billy and his gang called themselves, 'The Regulators.'
Hey Oxhorn, can't wait to see you (or hear you) in Fallout 5!
And Vision? Does he have a voice acting role promised to the game or something? :D
Cameo :D
Snailybob he meant hearing oxhorn by him narrating the quests in thr game, like in this video
Mr. Minuteman, that was a joke. He said so himself.
No, the Graenolf thing was an April fools' joke created by Graenolf. He said so himself. He's not voicing anyone in Fallout 5. At least, from what we know so far.
You can kind of tell the difference between a left and right index finger because they are slightly curved
And they only accept left index fingers i think
Man, I love how you interact with the characters in your videos! Keep it up.
Hi Oxhorn I have been watching your videos since 100k subs!You really helped me in the games fallout 3 and 4 your my favorite TH-camr and I really admire the way you talk in your fallout lore or any lore matter of fact but your a really cool guy and you should keep doing what you are doing.
Loved getting the regulator perk, it made it so easy to get a shit ton of caps real early in the game
Love the story Oxhorn! Cant wait for Mothership Zeta and the upcoming Honest Hearts series!
Do Vault City please!
Ten hour video there.
I was surprised to see this in my feed (in a good way of course) and even more so when I saw that you got the perk in exactly the same area as myself waaaaay back in 2008! That just made my darn day!
Hey Ox, do you think it's possible that those flowers in the cemetery were plastic? I've seen quite a few plastic flowers in cemeteries since they don't die.
Will wouldn't it be more fun to imagine that there's some kind of green growing we're dead are decomposing since it is nourishment for green life in a world where it's nothing but dust and rubble and rocks. you honestly believe that its plastic if there's any place where green will begin to flourish it is in the cemetery after a nuclear war. have you thought about that
But wouldn't they have been evaporated by the bombs
Do the full story of the Oasis. Where plants and trees grow in the Capital Wasteland.
Please do a video on rockopolis
can you find it Fallout 3?
Daylen Byerly aka Lil Tall guy yep, it's difficult to find and it's unmarked but it's door is hidden in rocks near little lamplight
there's a bobblehead in rockopolis, due west of smith caseys garage and due north of girdershade.
"How can you tell the difference between a left ear and a right ear?" Have..you NEVER seen ears before?
I really enjoy your lore videos; so well educated about RL sites. It's really refreshing.
I wish they had this kind of karma system in Fallout 4
It's not a perfect system though, if anyone knows about Roy Philips will know what I mean.
Sparks Legends the world isn't black and white
Pretty sure that's just a politics of racism thing. I was super pissed off since Roy had openly said he'd kill them all. It's not like you can't kill Tenpenny anyway for being a douchebag as well.
Man, now i'm actually mad at that whole questline all over again.
Removing it was one of the few good things they did with Fallout 4.
Except killing Roy nets you bad karma, even after he murdered all of those humans (most that aloud them in mind you) it still considered an evil action to kill him. 3 dog even scolds you on the radio for doing that.
Dear oxhorn wouldn't it be cool if there was a ghoul who was the tomb gaurd for the tomb of the unknown soldier here . that would be so awesome . I'm sad they didn't include it .love the vid besides that. have s great day .
There is actually a good reason for the flowers growing from the military graves I read somewhere online that the are in tribute to Bethesda's employees ancestors who fought and died in different wars I do believe one was for a ww1 and the others where for ww2 soldier and ancestors of Bethesda employees who didn't make it home and the graves are close to the real areas in the real life centenary. The one alone was the ww1 soldier and the two that were close were for the two fallen ww2 soldier. If this is true it's a nice and honorable touch to a game shrouded in bleak stories. P.S. god bless the fallen soldier who fought and died for our rights and freedoms we have and guide the present and future soldiers who will come that they make it back safe and sound.
I love the Junders Plunkett bounty, and his unique spiked knuckles. I just wish they made a corresponding encounter for Contract Killers. But I guess my real issue is these perks being made available as late as level 14. By then you've accrued all the wealth you could ask for, and there are so many good perks available, and more to come as your level grows higher. Something tells me that if Fallout 3 were ever remade by Bethesda, the Regulators and Littlehorn would be a source of radiant bounty quests, rather than the Finger and Ear business.
Of all the places to make a video including Robert E Lee you choose now... lol
I stayed neutral for this one. But it is good to know how it works. Am curious about how this works in New Vegas, but Honest Hearts!! Man that was a great DLC. I look forward to going back!
See, my character did it different. They thought it was too inconvenient to collect thingers, so they made sure to bring the heads. Sure, there were some raised eyebrows when they entered Rivet city with 100 decomposing heads strapped to their waist, and yeah, dad couldn't help but comment, but on the bright side, it did look really sick. The Tenpenny residents were especially impressed.
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Oxhorn: But thats a video for another day
Me: (Having flash backs of the storyteller)
jeff stone exactly!!
Speaking of green I'd love to see an oasis video
Ahh i was just watching your fallout 4 lores so i wanted to stop by btw i love your vids ox
Hey oxhorn I just want to say that I think you're channel is one of the few on TH-cam that really deserves the patreon on money you put a lot of work into your Videos and a lot of time can you actually listen to your viewers not to mention you do a podcast where you talk to them and answer questions . Just want to say I think you're awesome man keep it up I just had to say that because I feel like too many people have patreon and just say thank you and that they don't actually have any responsibility to the person giving the money I feel like you feel that responsibility and you definitely follow through with what you say
You know the New Vegas devs had that exact discussion about the fingers and ears thing. That's why the NCR wants heads.
It's why mangling the head is possible, they were already thinking about how silly Fallout 3's fingers and ears were.
What kind of fucking bounty hunter kills someone for 5 caps????
Melody The Lone Wanderer, apparently.
It's better than nothing I guess
Did he just... 10:45
Fallaria Rising yes he did
Fallaria Rising I don't understand
Before Oxhorn, there was a similar TH-cam series that went in depth, as well as made interesting and silly skits, about fallout lore.
And 'that's another video for another day,' was one of the quotes from the storyteller, a character in the series narrative.
dar'man beskar Ordo
Thanks for telling me that. I remember keeping up with the Shoddycast weekly but I must have eventually fell off about 2 years ago. I went back today and I picked up a few seasons ahead of where I left off. It's almost nostalgic, yet it's not that old at the same time.
Great video as always, especially since I've just started to play Fallout 3 again few days ago.
Could you please consider doing a video about Agatha and her quest as well as Vault 92? In my opinion the story of Vault 92 is pretty good (+ the loot there is pretty nice) and I'd love to see a video about this location from you.
Another great video. And since you mentioned morality, what were some of the hardest moral choices you've experience in the fallout universe? for me harold and his quest from fallout 3 was the most difficult one. or at least its the first one to come to mind when i think of difficult moral choices in fallout
Robert E Lee is related to my history teacher who is teaching us about the revolutionary war.
Ironic right.
Where can you find a cowboy duster in New Vegas?
Raime The Fume Knight I think in the on the loansome drifter
Raime The Fume Knight In Primm. Before you give them a sheriff, go to the Sheriff's office. You'll find it there.
Ej Clemeña really I couldn't find it
Ahmed Mohamed It has to be before you give them a sheriff. Otherwise it just disappears for some reason. Like the corpses of the previous sheriff and his wife.
Ahmed Mohamed Sheriff's house in Primm
Arlington Cemetery. For a while I didn't know it was in Fallout 3. When I found it, it became my favorite location. My little piece of peace in the wasteland.
You can definitely tell left and right index fingers apart.
Really looking forward to Honest Hearts videos, especially Randall 'The Survivalist' Clark's story
i smacked myself so hard when he said lucas simms is a regulators...like how did i miss that
OXHORN I found a regulator in my fallout 4 settlement
Meme Star that settlement needs your help general.
How
19:32 when I played New Vegas Bounties and asked the question “why not collect heads?” Someguy (that’s the owner of the NV mod) said “are you a psychopath?”
I never realized that Fallout 3 used the karma system in a more in-depth way than just giving consequences to your actions. I need to replay it
BellThief And how Three Dog talks about you.
I don't think they care about how many fingers you bring in, the benefactor has put this in his plan that he would gladly pay 50 to 100 caps per villain, he saves quite a bit by only expressing the need for 1 finger (and if pinkys and thumbs are not accepted, that still a huge saving for the benefactor) As long as the watchers continue to see you doing your part, keeping a high karma, then if you could want (possible) to cheat for a few more caps they would let it slide imo. Roll up with a big bag of thirty or forty misc fingers, pay me my money. They probably wouldn't care if you killed 10 or 40 villains, point is they know you are killing villains for their good weakened elder God battling the forces of Chaos trying to enter the world. FO5 the warp will finally open.
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AD-apocalypse
Aahh sentinel you have technical documents?...
Ave, fellow post-apoc cosplayer!
AD VICTORIM BROTHER !
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Lol love the fact you kept the derp moment in
This is what I like of what a group of people do in the Capital Wasteland. People try to reform they own variant of law enforcement, especially the Regulators.
Regulators all the way ☺
Oxhorn: when are you doing a video on the mesmetron? It's the most interesting weapon in the fallout 3 game in my option anyways... I once played through and killed almost no-one I simply would use the mesmetron on that person and then collect my reward... you do need a high charisma score for it to work consistently however... you would be suprised how many npcs you can use the mesmetron on.
Oxhorn, about that picture and shrine of Lincoln in the house, I googled Abe Lincoln and it said that he was a war veteran of the Indian wars back in 1832. He served as a Captain and a Private in the Illinois militia during the Black Hawk wars. Junders Plunkett, him being a raider and a proponent of violence of course, must have idolized him for that.
i love that theres a dogmeat in each game
Oxhorn can you please update your fallout 4 mod list
Isn't it possible that the Regulators could be funded by the Enclave? I mean they are pretty short staffed and it would definitely help them get rid of the degenerates that could cause a problem during their version of Project Purity.
Well they definitely wouldn't be getting gear from the enclave but maybe caps, anyways most people know that the enclave are blood thirsty murderers and the members of the regulators took an oath to always be good or some shit so I kinda doubt it
You can destroy them and the reagulaters still have funding
GruntingPandas you can kill enclave and give the fingers to the regulators
Has anybody else encountered a thing where Senora flees from a random creature attack at the HQ and never comes back?
Hopefully i didn't just miss it. I would love to see you cover old world blues. Thanks for all the work you put into these videos.
And soon, Oxhorn shall be Legion!
Ave, true to Caesar!
(p.s it's pronounced Ah-way &
k-I-sar. That's because the Legion uses Roman latin pronunciation, which means V is pronounced as a W and C as a K, whilst in church latin they changed the pronunciation over time to what it looks and sounds like today.)
people very often blame USA for slavery, yet keep forgeting that you americans fought the bloodiest battle in your nation's history to abolish slavery
every tribe and nation at some time in human history kept slaves but only the "western" nations fought to abolish it, especially americans
people should be reminded of that especially nowadays
bloodygentleman the civil war didn't happen to abolish slavery. Getting rid of slavery was a byproduct of the civil war. Even Lincoln himself said that whether the blacks were free or slaves didn't matter.
The south thought the north would try to do away with slavery; in fact the republicans at the start of the war proposed and approved the corwin amendment that out right protects slavery where it exists.
And in non-"western" civilizations slavery was often outlawed before an armed conflict could escalate around it. The fact that a bloody Civil War had to happen only proves that debates and conversations failed
bloodygentleman It wasn't the bloodiest. That would be the Meuse Argonne Offensive.
.... The civil war was about state laws over federal laws instead of federal over state. The slavery piece was actually a minor part. Not bashing, just saying.
ive played fallout 3 for hundreds of hours and have never seen or heard of the Arlington cemetery. how did i miss it?
Interesting to see how this perk works in game. I never took it, mostly just because the perk seemed more valuable than the money.
Looking forward to that Honest Hearts content!
Hey Oxhorn, in Fallout 4, there's an exchange when you first enter Goodneighbor that I always found a bit puzzling, and I was hoping you could make a video offering your two caps on it.
After Finn dies (whether you kill him or Hancock stabs him), Hancock will tell you "Goodneighbor's off the people, for the people." Anyone even modestly well-read in U.S. History will know that this line was originally from the Gettysburg Address, which not only promoted unity in represenative democracy, but also racial equality (because the Address was done during the height of the American Civil War).
You have the option to tell Hancock "That sounds like anarchy," to which Hancock will reply "The best kind of anarchy, so long as you remember who's in charge."
That's all well and good, but here's where the head-scratcher comes into play: All the companions who are normally considered "good guys," like Preston, Piper, Curie, Valentine, etc., all LIKE it when you select this dialogue option!
Equating democracy & equality to anarchy is something the good guys LIKE!
That doesn't make any sense! Maybe if this were just one companion, we could chalk it up to a development error. Like ... maybe Bethesda meant for the Companion to dislike it but programmed in "like" by mistake. But this is EVERY Companion who is normally considered good!
So is that some kind of political commentary Bethesda in the real world is trying to subtly squeeze in? Do the people at Bethesda, in the real world, actually think democracy and equality is bad for us?
Or maybe it's a subtle hint as to how life before the Great War was? There's the occasional lore in the Fallout world suggesting that the few years immediatley before Great War were either martial law or bordering the line. Perhaps people just became so use to martial law that it's the only "government" they can comprehend? Anything that isn't martial law is therefore non-government, aka anarchy.
Also, remember that the Cold War never really ended in the Fallout world. The generation immediately before the Great War - the generation that the Sole Survivor was a part of - had lived in this "Red Scare" their whole lives! Living in constant fear of some sort of enemy like Commmunist China can really take its toll on people's psyche. You need look no further than the Commonwealth's fear of The "Boogeyman" Institute to see that!
Well, what if life before the Great War was so drenched in fear of Communism ... and the hatred of Communism became more and more entrenched in people's minds, and the paranoia of communism became greater and greater, that the people slowly began to take on the very traits they believed they hated?
That happens from time to time! A person who is so passionate in his hatred of a particular enemy, and is so obsessed with defeating that enemy, that he, unbeknownst to himself, effectively BECOMES the very thing he's fighting against! The Direct-to-DVD movie "Batman: Under the Red Hood" is a perfect example of such a story. In that movie, Jason Todd becomes so obsessed with stopping crime that he literally turns himself into a mob boss, because he honestly believes that's the best way to control the worst of crime!
So, could the people right before the Great War have potentially been so scared of communism that they've lost touch with what makes America a "free" country?
What are YOUR thoughts on the matter?
7:34 "Hey, he shot me!"
No he didn't, you liar; he didn't even have time to react.
He said Shocked
And he didn't have a gun
My favorite line from the movie A Serious Man really applies to the whole finger collecting business: "Please. Accept the mystery."
I'm so glad to see that FO3 is still being played. Love this game!
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Hey, im sorry Oxhorn but there was no insult made to General Lee and alot of people around the USA respected him for his dignity, military intelligence, sincerity, honesty, and dutifulness. Lincoln actually highly respected him. he didnt want to even be involved in the war, he actually thought it was foolish and would only hinder us as a nation. he only joined when his home stated succeeded from the Nation. he did not wish to fight saying hed only raise his sword to protect his native state. so i dont see that as a disrespectful thing to General Lee, they both had respect and admiration towards one another both had similar views on slavery, just Lee wanted to defend his home, wouldnt you do the same?
Logical Phallusy Lee also freed his slaves, just remeber the civil was about more then just slavery.
lol the only reason Lincoln didnt own slaves is because his church he went to condemned it. he actually said that slaves were inferior and that if there was another way to win the war without freeing part of them, he would do that. Lee and Lincoln both had the same views on the matter, they both saw it as an immoral trade and both agreed it was inhumane thing to do. But they both also said that it was nothing they could do about it because that's where they belonged lol. Lincoln wasnt this hero of Civil RIghts and Justice, he just didnt want to go down in history as the president who lost the nation they just fought to free. Lee only did what he did out of loyalty, not self gain or self preservation or to increase his reputation.
samuel rivera I think a majority of reasonable people will agree that in hindsight, we can see that both sides fought a war based on morals that really left a shell of the nation. It took years to rebuild the areas devastated by the war and Robert e Lee was a big part of how those citizens survived. Without compassion, understanding, and the ability to compromise, I'm 100% certain that our country will find another civil war to fight. Meanwhile our enemies abroad would be stupid not to take that opportunity to attack.
Now back to your, in his place would you not do the same question, it's impossible to know. He thought he was doing the right thing and he cannot be vaulted for that. But do you think he would've changed his actions if he had known the outcome of the war or the 1000s of Virginian's and Americans who would end up dying for both the confederacy and the union? I like to think of Lee as one of the smartest generals of that Era and like to think he would've worked for a compromise as our whole government should have done. Slavery didn't disappear overnight and the atrocities committed by both sides have left scars still present today. All we can do today is strive to be better than our fore fathers and not make the same mistakes. Not to glorify the main ideology shared by a majority of people in the civil war, that some men are less human than others. Not to abandon our state and our government just because we disagree with radical behavior on both sides. Idk that's just me and my book comment.
as much as i respect your comment the war wasnt even about the morality of anything. the Nation was built upon slavery and hard labor it didnt leave a shell of anything. it is our history that didnt affect how our nation developed, the nation continued to strive and be a major world power even to this day. the war was a political war that indirectly had an affect on slavery. our forefathers made no mistakes because AT THAT TIME is was completely acceptable to own slaves, however immoral you or i think it might be. the atrocities you speak of werent done to just slaves, they were done to indians, poor whites, mexicans, asians, basically anyone not rich or considered important. this comment had NOTHING to do with the aftermath of the Civil War,it was the fact that Oxhorn thought it was ironic that a portrait of Abraham Lincoln was found in Robert E Lee's house. which i said there is nothing ironic about it. it wasnt an insult it wasnt a blunt diss on Lee, even if it was intended as such.
samuel rivera War, war never changes.
i'm super excited for Honest Hearts! i also can't wait for the eventual Littlehorn video, just bc it's so bizarre and mysterious. Thanks for the awesome video Oxhorn!
Strangely enough, ive never gotten the Lawbringer perk. Every visit to Arlington house was quiet and mysterious. I doubt Plunket would idolize Abe Lincoln, but the most likely thing would be the remainders of a member of The Temple of the Union, perhaps Hannibal Hamlin himself before he officially founded the thing. Just maybe, the place inspired him. Otherwise, its just a fun little mystery.
As much as i love the little Wall-e moment with the few flowers in the wasteland appearing at the cemetery, could they just be plastic flowers that somehow survived the ages? Best brain candy i have for ya Oxhorn, keep being awesome.