Technically, and it has been done, even a superbike can be taken offroad with proper tires. What makes a bike "off-road" is not just the adherence of the tires, but the wheel size, suspension travel etc all to optimize the ride quality, rideability, clearance, and whatnots. Not a conclusive test IMO, but yeah it works if you intend to go on gravels, which is what most of us will do. Most ADV bikes are overkill, like most consumerism products, gotta squeeze more money by making people believe they need what they don't. And clout.
There are limits as to what you CAN do with a given motorcycle, but many of us will only WANT to do with a motorcycle what marketing is telling us to. Offroad a street bike on offroad tyres may get you further than a dirt bike on street tyres, and you may have the time of your life with a sportsbike on a 2000 mile trip.
Glad to hear these tires do well. I put those on my street triple and cb500. The cb slid in some gravel turned mud but I didn’t fall. Nice tires. Nice video.
I rode my Honda CB650F fitted with Battlax AX41S and they were amazing through Laos and Thailand. Highly recommend them. Dropped the pressure a bit to soak up the Laos potholes but never had a squiggle either.
I mean, ANY bike can go off asphalt (just ask the hundreds of drunk, half naked Dyna-bros who go to Born Free every year or the kid riding a Gold Wing in Moabb) - the question is how far off asphalt do you wanna challenge yourself and your bike? Hard pack? Easy. Gravel? Still fairly easy. Grass? Slippery, but most bikes can still handle it. Uneven jeep track with sand and whoops? I see the street biased bikes having a harder time. Sugar sand? Better have 50/50 knobs and a decent rake or you will be picking up your bike a lot. Uneven rocky terrain, ruts and mud? Leave it to the sub 350Lb bikes...
Awesome. I've been thinking about getting some Pirelli... MT60's I think 🤔... for my Rebel. I've seen maybe two other people do that and they say those work great for more off-pavement riding (and one guy swore by them even on wet pavement on twisties). I live out in the sticks and want to take the bike camping hence the Pirellis. Rebel sits pretty low, but I'm not too concerned about ground clearance for the places I'm most likely to go. btw, I've only watched two of your videos so far, but your editing is on point, man.
Thanks a million for your video, I just recently relocated to Southern Baja Mexico and really wanted to keep my Tiger 660, the roads here can be dirt and at times 2-3 " deep in sand and the stock tires were ready to be replaced anyway bu, everytime I brought it up in a forum I got blasted with comments about how the Tiger 660 isn't an offroad bike. I got tired of explaining I wanted off road tires but I'm actually not going off road. I'm going to order the Dunlops, I heard you mention they were cheaper than the Continental TKc70's, but down here the Continental are about $100 cheaper, have you any experience with the Continentals?
19" front, spoked wheels, high fender, and about an inch more suspension. It would be perfect. Great for Triumph too because some people would then go on to Tiger 900/1200 Rallys.
Hi bro! Thanks for the video. I've just ordered this tires for my Honda CBF600S I hope they are going to be fine for asphalt road and for a soft off-road.
The two times I’ve taken mine on gravel/bumpy terrain…. I’ve had issues with my triumph panniers staying in place, falling off actually. Any trouble with that? I’ve taken it to the dealership and they say they are on has good as they can be put on
I had a run in with a loooooong gravel road and they did ok... But nowhere near as good as the mutants... They're just not made for it... The mutants handle gravel much better, some dirt and a bit of dry grass... But stay off anything remotely wet or muddy.
@@VectorBurnOfficial Good to know! I have a Trident but have been thinking about a TS660 for a while now. Seems like whenever I travel, there is always opportunity to head down a dirt road and do some exploring.
You mean YOU want a *765* sport tourer. Which is reasonable. But plenty of people like off roading middleweight advs. And like it or not, a 660 adv version is probably coming next year.
Technically, and it has been done, even a superbike can be taken offroad with proper tires. What makes a bike "off-road" is not just the adherence of the tires, but the wheel size, suspension travel etc all to optimize the ride quality, rideability, clearance, and whatnots. Not a conclusive test IMO, but yeah it works if you intend to go on gravels, which is what most of us will do. Most ADV bikes are overkill, like most consumerism products, gotta squeeze more money by making people believe they need what they don't. And clout.
There are limits as to what you CAN do with a given motorcycle, but many of us will only WANT to do with a motorcycle what marketing is telling us to. Offroad a street bike on offroad tyres may get you further than a dirt bike on street tyres, and you may have the time of your life with a sportsbike on a 2000 mile trip.
Glad to hear these tires do well. I put those on my street triple and cb500. The cb slid in some gravel turned mud but I didn’t fall. Nice tires. Nice video.
I rode my Honda CB650F fitted with Battlax AX41S and they were amazing through Laos and Thailand. Highly recommend them. Dropped the pressure a bit to soak up the Laos potholes but never had a squiggle either.
I mean, ANY bike can go off asphalt (just ask the hundreds of drunk, half naked Dyna-bros who go to Born Free every year or the kid riding a Gold Wing in Moabb) - the question is how far off asphalt do you wanna challenge yourself and your bike? Hard pack? Easy. Gravel? Still fairly easy. Grass? Slippery, but most bikes can still handle it. Uneven jeep track with sand and whoops? I see the street biased bikes having a harder time. Sugar sand? Better have 50/50 knobs and a decent rake or you will be picking up your bike a lot. Uneven rocky terrain, ruts and mud? Leave it to the sub 350Lb bikes...
I don't disagree.
Awesome. I've been thinking about getting some Pirelli... MT60's I think 🤔... for my Rebel. I've seen maybe two other people do that and they say those work great for more off-pavement riding (and one guy swore by them even on wet pavement on twisties). I live out in the sticks and want to take the bike camping hence the Pirellis. Rebel sits pretty low, but I'm not too concerned about ground clearance for the places I'm most likely to go.
btw, I've only watched two of your videos so far, but your editing is on point, man.
Thanks for watching! The Mutants are great. I highly recommend. I hear the MT60S are hard to get. I considered them as well.
Thanks a million for your video, I just recently relocated to Southern Baja Mexico and really wanted to keep my Tiger 660, the roads here can be dirt and at times 2-3 " deep in sand and the stock tires were ready to be replaced anyway bu, everytime I brought it up in a forum I got blasted with comments about how the Tiger 660 isn't an offroad bike. I got tired of explaining I wanted off road tires but I'm actually not going off road. I'm going to order the Dunlops, I heard you mention they were cheaper than the Continental TKc70's, but down here the Continental are about $100 cheaper, have you any experience with the Continentals?
I have them on my Bonneville and love them. They're better for off road than the Dunlops. Get em...
I use bridgestone AX41S tyres on my 2018 CB500X with 17 inch wheels..works fine of road..
19" front, spoked wheels, high fender, and about an inch more suspension. It would be perfect. Great for Triumph too because some people would then go on to Tiger 900/1200 Rallys.
Yeah, turn into a baby 900 GT Pro essentially. Street biased but light off-road capable.
Hi bro! Thanks for the video. I've just ordered this tires for my Honda CBF600S I hope they are going to be fine for asphalt road and for a soft off-road.
They're literally made for that.
You've said in the past that the 1st gear is pretty much useless due to how short it is, does that change at all on dirt/grass?
Depends on how fast you want to go. But I was mostly in 2nd while filming this... If that tells you anything...
The two times I’ve taken mine on gravel/bumpy terrain…. I’ve had issues with my triumph panniers staying in place, falling off actually. Any trouble with that? I’ve taken it to the dealership and they say they are on has good as they can be put on
Nah... I've taken it to an off-road course and did fine... No issues.
Did you do any dirt time with the Michelin Road 5's? How did they feel compared to the Dunlop Mutants?
I had a run in with a loooooong gravel road and they did ok... But nowhere near as good as the mutants... They're just not made for it... The mutants handle gravel much better, some dirt and a bit of dry grass... But stay off anything remotely wet or muddy.
@@VectorBurnOfficial Good to know! I have a Trident but have been thinking about a TS660 for a while now. Seems like whenever I travel, there is always opportunity to head down a dirt road and do some exploring.
As long as it's not too gnarly... The tiger will do just fine.
Wouldn't you need to turn off the ABS? How kan It be done?
You can't. Not in an official triumph sanctioned way anyway.
We don't want an off road tiger 660. We want a sport tourer with the 756 in it.
You mean YOU want a *765* sport tourer. Which is reasonable. But plenty of people like off roading middleweight advs. And like it or not, a 660 adv version is probably coming next year.