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- Buying new irons in 2024 can seem like the only answer to you getting better scores... but what if that might not be the answer?
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I have a split set of Titleist AP3's and T200's, I keep the AP3's in the bag and I change the top half of my bag when I want to try something new. So it keeps my expenses down to a minimum when I want to buy new clubs. It's been working well for me
Tom Wishon the golf design guru, has said so many times that since COR & MOI were maxxed out then nearly all club changes are cosmetic. The change in Loft from 35 to 28 for a 7 iron is purely to help the macho hitter.
I've just been fitted for his 771 iron, a design that's been around for nearly a decade. It outperformed my 2023 Honma and 2022 Ping. And at £95 a club it's insane!
Keep up the great work Simon.
It's been a fact for at least a decade now, by all means buy a new set as a treat or to get yourself hyped to practice and play more. Just don't get believing "performance" will be better. Keep preaching.
I buy different clubs but not coz im hoping to find a unicorn,just coz its fun..try new stuff..some i will resell(mostly due to this channel during the pandemic),some i will keep but not play just because they are pretty or ill game when in a hot streak..ap2 714's are those clubs for me.."summer" clubs..decent distance when im hitting it but would never game them early or late in the season..same 7 iron can be 25 yrds shorter in april or october here in Canada for me..year round gamers:1 degree strong mizuno jpx 921hm pro..best of everything: forgivness,feel,sound,distance,value!
I put a Ladies 50 driver shaft into my M2 2016 and longest drive 304 best drive I've done, 5"5 and 57 26 handicap, and an average driver distance of 265 on the course so my advice look at the shaft your using and swing speed, to be honest I completely agree with you Simon it's not the new is always better
Love the reality. You’re great!! I have several sets. One new I built myself. The others, used. I love them all. They all play different.
Hi Simon another great honest and helpful video. Many thanks mate. Keep up the good work 🫡
hi Simon after watching your recent video of the Benross delta xt irons i went for a fitting and what a surprise my own irons length wrong flex/weight wrong etc etc etc cant believe the difference and it only cost me £167 after trading in the sim2 max irons
i decided to go 1 degree weaker at 7 iron 31 degrees yet i'm hitting them further tham the sims with more accuracy than ever before so big thanks buddy as i am a normal golfer who probably would of chose a different brand if i had not watched your videos
I still game the Ping G25 irons......not the longest iron but very consistent on yardage gapping. I know exactly how far each iron goes if hit halfway properly.
Agree that Custom fitting can be difficult depending on the day. Have had two fittings at a large, well known fitter - one day the recommendation was for one inch longer, two degrees upright. Second fitting recommended 1/4 short, 1 degree flat. I am 5’8 inches tall. The difference in distance was 3 yards between the two fittings. Did not buy either one. Left frusrated.
This is good fundamental sense. I've kept up the belief that until I'm playing golf worthy of a proper new club fitting I shouldn't be getting one. It just seems like a way to make a game I enjoy into a thing that may ultimately frustrate me if I dive down the rabbit hole too soon. It's nice to see that in theory the second hand clubs I have wouldn't be working too far against me. Also a nice thought that there is good data that can be taken away from a fitting without the obligation to actually buy anything in the moment.
I do have one question though completely unrelated to what you were talking about in this video. What brand is that older red/white/blue leather golf bag behind you when you're sitting down on the chair?
As a player of 1998 Cleveland TA5 irons when I got them new, I just purchased some new Takomos for 2024. So this test at the end was good, but also a bit obvious for a player that can hit as consistently as this chap. Would have loved to see you try this with a mid-handicapper. I am a high handicap so I was looking for forgiveness. I just started playing 2 years ago after taking off 15 years for family reasons. If I could hit as consistently, I would have probably just gotten clubs regripped as when I do hit them correctly, they fly great.
Great video Simon & a very honest assessment with logic to back it up. Well done again sir!👏
Simon, I'm a new golfer from the USA. You really have me looking at the used market. Currently considering a set of irons from Callaway Steelhead XR's 5-PW, AW, and SW or a set of Ping G30 5-PW, UW. and LW. All senior flex, based on what I have seen in you vids, the either set of clubs would be a good choice. Should I worry much about A vs R flex? How about Ping's color coded lie system?
I still play callaway x2hot irons from 2014 and Nike cci irons from 2008
and Sldr driver and woods not changing anytime soon either
Good video Thanks
I am 75 going on 20 years with Mizuno Mx-23 4-pw graphite shaft are my “daily player”. But I have 3 other sets that I practice or just hit balls with.
What a fantastic video. brilliant.
Thanks Simon i think you might've bumped the price up on my old Ping O sizes 😁
They currently use a foam or rubber Insert in many clubs...?? Wear n tear on the rubber?? Especially those clubs with the rubber inserts in the sole of the club head
Man, I have been looking at some srixons but currently play i3 blades with some o-sizes in there but am missing my 3, 7, and 9 irons.
I play my i3s quite well, 140-pw and so on, not to brag, but I do like the clubs because I hit them pretty to very well.
This video just made my decision tougher whether or not to just buy a few i3 individuals or invest in a used Srixon set.
But appreciated the info, the z785s are calling me though.
I hear you on all of these points. As I tell my friends "You are just applying physics to a stick". The equipment in this game will only ever offer you 5% change in results. The rest is up to you.
I like that,im stealing that one😂
Average golfer need forgiveness, distance, stopping power, and value! You are right! Some golfers are club junkies! They really need a lesson or two! Like me. I’m average golfer 71, I have three sets, Ben Hogan Apex Edge Forged stiff shorter distance more accurate used $185, Cleveland Hybrid set, good feel clubs regular, new. Regular gamers PXG 0211 X cor2 regular, very nice feel and distance, new. Good thoughts and review! Thank You
My problem, among many, is trying to find a somewhat newer driver that I can hit more fairways with. It's been rough to the point where I almost want to quit the game.
Lessons ??
@@martcoombs9031 Would like to, but just don't have the extra money to do it.
TaylorMade M4, Srixon Z585, Ping G400 are all solid. Been out for about 5 years so cost less secondhand and are extremely popular!
I tend to get fitted into graphite shafts.
I usually hold on to them for 4 years because I worry that resale value will fall away if the paint starts to wear.
I guess that wraps may be a solution but could they change the characteristics of the shaft?
My clubs are 2006 Nike Sling shots - still in very good condition
I last played about 10-15yrs ago
Now that I’m in my 50s - I thought abiut getting a set of Taylor made sim2 (4 to PW for £500)
And if I stick with the golf then maybe getting a fitting done
If youre interested in my opinion,i tjink you should at least go try the newer stuff...or see Simon!!
@@UnfilteredGolfer thanks. I am leaning towards getting an ‘interim’ set.
It’s nice that Vice golf have appeared on the irons scene with aesthetically appealing clubs, albeit a bit late for the 2024 golfing season, as I might have decided on their more forgiving club. Game improvement irons can’t compete with players distance in terms of aesthetics imo
Amen!
So what your saying is the mint condition 2014 Ping Karsten irons (6-PW) I picked up for $160 is just as good as a set of G425 I have my eye on for $400? Better to round out with some glide 3.0 50°/54°/58° and spend the rest on a decent mallet putter? Also had my eye on Sim 2 Max as this irons are now $250 USD at my local shop.
That's a great price for the sim2's.
Which shop is that 😅
@@charlestondad1230 local pro shop - probably grabbing them on the way hone
This may be a controversial opinion but here’s what I did: I’ve only been playing 2 years, I bought a box store set& net and hit them everyday until every club was broken, got them replaced for free and wore them out also in the first 6 months.
Then I got a brand new taylormade set, stealth2+ woods, Ventus shafts, and I play with pro v1s(when the pond is out of reach😂) - I never blame the clubs- they didn’t swing themselves into the dirt 37” behind the ball?😢
Only regret is that the warranty convenience availability and customer service with taylormade is a joke-I should have bought everything used 😂
that rogue X is excellent!
They look nice as well
I used to have those TM cgb irons. My ex pawned them when I was on the road. Hate that woman. I loved those clubs. Last time I played them I shot 85 which is really good for me.
Invested in some Muira CB501s 8 years ago, fully fitted with shafts to suit…….. love them, enjoy them even when not able to do them justice. What I found out is that today the blurb and marketing for some pretty average but expensive clubs is just full of lies. My irons are traditional and my 7 iron is 34 degrees, but nowadays is that a 7 iron today is between 25 and 31 degree so really a 5 iron so makes you think it goes further
Yeah but they are easier to hit and get up in the air then lets say 15 years ago..technology did in fact help..just not to the level manufacturers woukd wants us to believe it did..but i agree with you..if the drivers gave me the promised 10 extra yards every year for the last 20 years,id be driving 200 yards further...spoiler:no one does
Real talk.
Hi Simon, I've just lost my 7 Iron 923 Hot Metal Pro last weekend, should I buy exactly the same or different model like Stealth or just move on with 6 or 8 iron that I've already own
Hello mate and sorry to hear that pal, to be honest I would try and get the same. For the obvious reason of it playing similar to the set, but when you come to sell them, the whole set will be worth a lot more. As spilt sets with clubs missing do t go for that much. Hope that helps mate.
Been playing with an old set of ping g10 irons, I've never hit so many greens in regulation 170 down, problem is def distance only hitting 8 iron 135max. I'd love to get them lofted slightly stronger to reduce height a bit.
You might try re-shafting those irons with something like KBS shafts. I just did the opposite with my irons. Pulled the KBS graphite 60s from the irons (too low of flight for me, got about 135 yds from the 8 like you, but had problems with them running out too far on the greens), installed Mitsubishi Vanquish 50 shafts and now have a softer, higher flight (these were designed with input from the LPGA and since I'm 75 these shafts are great for me). You can't bend your irons for loft unless they are forged, but you can change shafts and grips (quite a range in weight there which effects swing weight and feel).
@@jamesreynolds4220. Hi James , might try and pick up a set of shafts worth a try . Contacted ping & they will alter lofts , got to go through a local pro to arrange collection . 🤞🤞
So many fitters rely almost entirely on ball speed.
I always blame the clubs I mean seriously it can't possibly be my perfect 50 year old swing
Common sense really but the goes out the window with boys and there toys
Just buy a used ones and get a lesson , practice practice….
So true! Two years ago my then 63 y.o. wife took 10 lessons from a local pro. She came out with a picture perfect swing, and with a lot of practice, now plays on a nearby 18 hole course with me. Last week she hit her driver onto a 160 yard par 3 green and putted for birdy, a joy to behold (I hit my 9 wood on the fringe and 3 putted ;( - for me TH-cam and the golf channel
have improved my swing so that my handicap has remained about the same 'tho I moved up to the gold tees last year at age 75. Buy new clubs when you can afford them.