Tom Wishon the golf design guru, has said so many times that since COR & MOI were maxxed out then nearly all club changes are cosmetic. The change in Loft from 35 to 28 for a 7 iron is purely to help the macho hitter. I've just been fitted for his 771 iron, a design that's been around for nearly a decade. It outperformed my 2023 Honma and 2022 Ping. And at £95 a club it's insane! Keep up the great work Simon.
I have a split set of Titleist AP3's and T200's, I keep the AP3's in the bag and I change the top half of my bag when I want to try something new. So it keeps my expenses down to a minimum when I want to buy new clubs. It's been working well for me
I buy different clubs but not coz im hoping to find a unicorn,just coz its fun..try new stuff..some i will resell(mostly due to this channel during the pandemic),some i will keep but not play just because they are pretty or ill game when in a hot streak..ap2 714's are those clubs for me.."summer" clubs..decent distance when im hitting it but would never game them early or late in the season..same 7 iron can be 25 yrds shorter in april or october here in Canada for me..year round gamers:1 degree strong mizuno jpx 921hm pro..best of everything: forgivness,feel,sound,distance,value!
It's been a fact for at least a decade now, by all means buy a new set as a treat or to get yourself hyped to practice and play more. Just don't get believing "performance" will be better. Keep preaching.
I put a Ladies 50 driver shaft into my M2 2016 and longest drive 304 best drive I've done, 5"5 and 57 26 handicap, and an average driver distance of 265 on the course so my advice look at the shaft your using and swing speed, to be honest I completely agree with you Simon it's not the new is always better
OMG! You need to teach the average fitter how to do their job!! You nailed soooooo many topics (and explained exactly why I had the worst fitting experience ever at Club Champion). Thank you!
Agree that Custom fitting can be difficult depending on the day. Have had two fittings at a large, well known fitter - one day the recommendation was for one inch longer, two degrees upright. Second fitting recommended 1/4 short, 1 degree flat. I am 5’8 inches tall. The difference in distance was 3 yards between the two fittings. Did not buy either one. Left frusrated.
hi Simon after watching your recent video of the Benross delta xt irons i went for a fitting and what a surprise my own irons length wrong flex/weight wrong etc etc etc cant believe the difference and it only cost me £167 after trading in the sim2 max irons i decided to go 1 degree weaker at 7 iron 31 degrees yet i'm hitting them further tham the sims with more accuracy than ever before so big thanks buddy as i am a normal golfer who probably would of chose a different brand if i had not watched your videos
I still game the Ping G25 irons......not the longest iron but very consistent on yardage gapping. I know exactly how far each iron goes if hit halfway properly.
Never bought brand new clubs. I buy used clubs and refurbish them. It's fun doing this. I enjoy the fact that I rotate the clubs in my bag every week. It brings an interesting challenge to my game.
This is good fundamental sense. I've kept up the belief that until I'm playing golf worthy of a proper new club fitting I shouldn't be getting one. It just seems like a way to make a game I enjoy into a thing that may ultimately frustrate me if I dive down the rabbit hole too soon. It's nice to see that in theory the second hand clubs I have wouldn't be working too far against me. Also a nice thought that there is good data that can be taken away from a fitting without the obligation to actually buy anything in the moment. I do have one question though completely unrelated to what you were talking about in this video. What brand is that older red/white/blue leather golf bag behind you when you're sitting down on the chair?
As a player of 1998 Cleveland TA5 irons when I got them new, I just purchased some new Takomos for 2024. So this test at the end was good, but also a bit obvious for a player that can hit as consistently as this chap. Would have loved to see you try this with a mid-handicapper. I am a high handicap so I was looking for forgiveness. I just started playing 2 years ago after taking off 15 years for family reasons. If I could hit as consistently, I would have probably just gotten clubs regripped as when I do hit them correctly, they fly great.
Simon, I'm a new golfer from the USA. You really have me looking at the used market. Currently considering a set of irons from Callaway Steelhead XR's 5-PW, AW, and SW or a set of Ping G30 5-PW, UW. and LW. All senior flex, based on what I have seen in you vids, the either set of clubs would be a good choice. Should I worry much about A vs R flex? How about Ping's color coded lie system?
Average golfer need forgiveness, distance, stopping power, and value! You are right! Some golfers are club junkies! They really need a lesson or two! Like me. I’m average golfer 71, I have three sets, Ben Hogan Apex Edge Forged stiff shorter distance more accurate used $185, Cleveland Hybrid set, good feel clubs regular, new. Regular gamers PXG 0211 X cor2 regular, very nice feel and distance, new. Good thoughts and review! Thank You
I hear you on all of these points. As I tell my friends "You are just applying physics to a stick". The equipment in this game will only ever offer you 5% change in results. The rest is up to you.
My clubs are 2006 Nike Sling shots - still in very good condition I last played about 10-15yrs ago Now that I’m in my 50s - I thought abiut getting a set of Taylor made sim2 (4 to PW for £500) And if I stick with the golf then maybe getting a fitting done
Mate your info is Priceless. Thanks for what you do. I'll not hold my breath on a reply but maybe you can steer me to a better used club choice? I'm 50. started last year. 26HC but not because I cant hit the ball. I'm usually 3 or 5 off the Tee with a low hook or a high push slice and 3 putting. On the other hand, I can potentially hit driver 300+ with a Ping G SF Tec with Stiff shaft and my 7 iron 190, but I'm using 21yr old Mizuno MX23 with Reg Exar Graphite shafts. From what I can gather these are very close to Traditional Loft at 34*. Last year I had Mizuno 919 hot metals with reg shafts and I was hitting them great with my 7 around 220yrd but I noticed the dispersion was pretty wild on the bad shots and wanted more control. I found a Mizuno 921 Tour 7 iron in the bargain bin, brand new for £20 so give it ago. Wow. Right away, the weight, the smaller size and when I hit it out the middle it was like stroking a puppies nose with a feather. So i went out to find a set and bought a used set with x-stiff shafts. As great as they were my distance dropped off and I realised quickly that I couldn't feel the head so was on the look out for a replacement. I figured the shaft was too stiff and too heavy. Here is where it gets interesting. I had a Free fitting with American Golf. I went in with my Mizuno 921 Tour 7 Iron with x-stiff shaft. Back then I was 33hc. The kid laughed at me and called me a Maniac for buying them......until I hit them. 10 shots grouped by around 10 yards at 160. He remarked on the spin and couldn't understand why it was so high at over 7000! I remarked that it was likely because they were traditionally lofted (not sure he knew what I was talking about). anyway, we went thru a series of heads and shafts. He said I was very close to needing Stiff Shafts actually so that's what we used. we tried the Callaway Forged and the Titleist t1000 i think. the balls were flying off the face and going over 200 yrds again but the dispersion was also 100 yrds. Imagine a reverse Triangle on the screen where my 921 Tours was tight at the bottom and all other clubs were spread out further up the field. He was a bit stumped at this point so i asked if he wouldn't mind me hitting my 921 Tour again. By now I was warmed up but the results were pretty much the same except the distance had improved by 10-15yrds. He shook his head and said he couldn't consciously sell me anything as my control and grouping using the 921 Tours was too good. So, there it is. Game Improvement = Distance Minus Control. So here's where you might be able to offer my next club choice. I really like the Mx23's I have but I have considerably slowed down my swing so much so that all my clubs seem to go the same distance unless I hit 100% each time. I'm feeling the strain now. I have a young mans mind but the body is failing a little. I want a more Forgiving club but with the same level of control I have with my MX23's. Greatly appreciate any suggestions. Thanks.
Hi Paul, makes a lot of sense. As backspin although can hinder distance helps tighten dispersion. The only irons that have that more loft option and keep an element of forgiveness is Titleist. The Ap2 forged options would be a good starting place mate as there at 33 degrees. 👌
I used to have those TM cgb irons. My ex pawned them when I was on the road. Hate that woman. I loved those clubs. Last time I played them I shot 85 which is really good for me.
Man, I have been looking at some srixons but currently play i3 blades with some o-sizes in there but am missing my 3, 7, and 9 irons. I play my i3s quite well, 140-pw and so on, not to brag, but I do like the clubs because I hit them pretty to very well. This video just made my decision tougher whether or not to just buy a few i3 individuals or invest in a used Srixon set. But appreciated the info, the z785s are calling me though.
I tend to get fitted into graphite shafts. I usually hold on to them for 4 years because I worry that resale value will fall away if the paint starts to wear. I guess that wraps may be a solution but could they change the characteristics of the shaft?
This may be a controversial opinion but here’s what I did: I’ve only been playing 2 years, I bought a box store set& net and hit them everyday until every club was broken, got them replaced for free and wore them out also in the first 6 months. Then I got a brand new taylormade set, stealth2+ woods, Ventus shafts, and I play with pro v1s(when the pond is out of reach😂) - I never blame the clubs- they didn’t swing themselves into the dirt 37” behind the ball?😢 Only regret is that the warranty convenience availability and customer service with taylormade is a joke-I should have bought everything used 😂
It’s nice that Vice golf have appeared on the irons scene with aesthetically appealing clubs, albeit a bit late for the 2024 golfing season, as I might have decided on their more forgiving club. Game improvement irons can’t compete with players distance in terms of aesthetics imo
I am that golfer , my collection of iron and driver shafts is getting ridiculous , i actually do enjoy the building and tweeking and i can now make glorious iron sets to suit anyone , except me that is , my golf hasnt improved at all 🤔 … i just surely havent gotten the balance right ….
So what your saying is the mint condition 2014 Ping Karsten irons (6-PW) I picked up for $160 is just as good as a set of G425 I have my eye on for $400? Better to round out with some glide 3.0 50°/54°/58° and spend the rest on a decent mallet putter? Also had my eye on Sim 2 Max as this irons are now $250 USD at my local shop.
They currently use a foam or rubber Insert in many clubs...?? Wear n tear on the rubber?? Especially those clubs with the rubber inserts in the sole of the club head
My problem, among many, is trying to find a somewhat newer driver that I can hit more fairways with. It's been rough to the point where I almost want to quit the game.
Hi Simon, I've just lost my 7 Iron 923 Hot Metal Pro last weekend, should I buy exactly the same or different model like Stealth or just move on with 6 or 8 iron that I've already own
Hello mate and sorry to hear that pal, to be honest I would try and get the same. For the obvious reason of it playing similar to the set, but when you come to sell them, the whole set will be worth a lot more. As spilt sets with clubs missing do t go for that much. Hope that helps mate.
Invested in some Muira CB501s 8 years ago, fully fitted with shafts to suit…….. love them, enjoy them even when not able to do them justice. What I found out is that today the blurb and marketing for some pretty average but expensive clubs is just full of lies. My irons are traditional and my 7 iron is 34 degrees, but nowadays is that a 7 iron today is between 25 and 31 degree so really a 5 iron so makes you think it goes further
Yeah but they are easier to hit and get up in the air then lets say 15 years ago..technology did in fact help..just not to the level manufacturers woukd wants us to believe it did..but i agree with you..if the drivers gave me the promised 10 extra yards every year for the last 20 years,id be driving 200 yards further...spoiler:no one does
Been playing with an old set of ping g10 irons, I've never hit so many greens in regulation 170 down, problem is def distance only hitting 8 iron 135max. I'd love to get them lofted slightly stronger to reduce height a bit.
You might try re-shafting those irons with something like KBS shafts. I just did the opposite with my irons. Pulled the KBS graphite 60s from the irons (too low of flight for me, got about 135 yds from the 8 like you, but had problems with them running out too far on the greens), installed Mitsubishi Vanquish 50 shafts and now have a softer, higher flight (these were designed with input from the LPGA and since I'm 75 these shafts are great for me). You can't bend your irons for loft unless they are forged, but you can change shafts and grips (quite a range in weight there which effects swing weight and feel).
@@jamesreynolds4220. Hi James , might try and pick up a set of shafts worth a try . Contacted ping & they will alter lofts , got to go through a local pro to arrange collection . 🤞🤞
So true! Two years ago my then 63 y.o. wife took 10 lessons from a local pro. She came out with a picture perfect swing, and with a lot of practice, now plays on a nearby 18 hole course with me. Last week she hit her driver onto a 160 yard par 3 green and putted for birdy, a joy to behold (I hit my 9 wood on the fringe and 3 putted ;( - for me TH-cam and the golf channel have improved my swing so that my handicap has remained about the same 'tho I moved up to the gold tees last year at age 75. Buy new clubs when you can afford them.
Tom Wishon the golf design guru, has said so many times that since COR & MOI were maxxed out then nearly all club changes are cosmetic. The change in Loft from 35 to 28 for a 7 iron is purely to help the macho hitter.
I've just been fitted for his 771 iron, a design that's been around for nearly a decade. It outperformed my 2023 Honma and 2022 Ping. And at £95 a club it's insane!
Keep up the great work Simon.
I have a split set of Titleist AP3's and T200's, I keep the AP3's in the bag and I change the top half of my bag when I want to try something new. So it keeps my expenses down to a minimum when I want to buy new clubs. It's been working well for me
I buy different clubs but not coz im hoping to find a unicorn,just coz its fun..try new stuff..some i will resell(mostly due to this channel during the pandemic),some i will keep but not play just because they are pretty or ill game when in a hot streak..ap2 714's are those clubs for me.."summer" clubs..decent distance when im hitting it but would never game them early or late in the season..same 7 iron can be 25 yrds shorter in april or october here in Canada for me..year round gamers:1 degree strong mizuno jpx 921hm pro..best of everything: forgivness,feel,sound,distance,value!
It's been a fact for at least a decade now, by all means buy a new set as a treat or to get yourself hyped to practice and play more. Just don't get believing "performance" will be better. Keep preaching.
I put a Ladies 50 driver shaft into my M2 2016 and longest drive 304 best drive I've done, 5"5 and 57 26 handicap, and an average driver distance of 265 on the course so my advice look at the shaft your using and swing speed, to be honest I completely agree with you Simon it's not the new is always better
Love the reality. You’re great!! I have several sets. One new I built myself. The others, used. I love them all. They all play different.
OMG! You need to teach the average fitter how to do their job!! You nailed soooooo many topics (and explained exactly why I had the worst fitting experience ever at Club Champion). Thank you!
Hi Simon another great honest and helpful video. Many thanks mate. Keep up the good work 🫡
Agree that Custom fitting can be difficult depending on the day. Have had two fittings at a large, well known fitter - one day the recommendation was for one inch longer, two degrees upright. Second fitting recommended 1/4 short, 1 degree flat. I am 5’8 inches tall. The difference in distance was 3 yards between the two fittings. Did not buy either one. Left frusrated.
Great video Simon & a very honest assessment with logic to back it up. Well done again sir!👏
hi Simon after watching your recent video of the Benross delta xt irons i went for a fitting and what a surprise my own irons length wrong flex/weight wrong etc etc etc cant believe the difference and it only cost me £167 after trading in the sim2 max irons
i decided to go 1 degree weaker at 7 iron 31 degrees yet i'm hitting them further tham the sims with more accuracy than ever before so big thanks buddy as i am a normal golfer who probably would of chose a different brand if i had not watched your videos
I still game the Ping G25 irons......not the longest iron but very consistent on yardage gapping. I know exactly how far each iron goes if hit halfway properly.
Never bought brand new clubs. I buy used clubs and refurbish them. It's fun doing this. I enjoy the fact that I rotate the clubs in my bag every week. It brings an interesting challenge to my game.
This is good fundamental sense. I've kept up the belief that until I'm playing golf worthy of a proper new club fitting I shouldn't be getting one. It just seems like a way to make a game I enjoy into a thing that may ultimately frustrate me if I dive down the rabbit hole too soon. It's nice to see that in theory the second hand clubs I have wouldn't be working too far against me. Also a nice thought that there is good data that can be taken away from a fitting without the obligation to actually buy anything in the moment.
I do have one question though completely unrelated to what you were talking about in this video. What brand is that older red/white/blue leather golf bag behind you when you're sitting down on the chair?
What a fantastic video. brilliant.
I still play callaway x2hot irons from 2014 and Nike cci irons from 2008
and Sldr driver and woods not changing anytime soon either
Good video Thanks
As a player of 1998 Cleveland TA5 irons when I got them new, I just purchased some new Takomos for 2024. So this test at the end was good, but also a bit obvious for a player that can hit as consistently as this chap. Would have loved to see you try this with a mid-handicapper. I am a high handicap so I was looking for forgiveness. I just started playing 2 years ago after taking off 15 years for family reasons. If I could hit as consistently, I would have probably just gotten clubs regripped as when I do hit them correctly, they fly great.
I am 75 going on 20 years with Mizuno Mx-23 4-pw graphite shaft are my “daily player”. But I have 3 other sets that I practice or just hit balls with.
Thanks Simon i think you might've bumped the price up on my old Ping O sizes 😁
Simon, I'm a new golfer from the USA. You really have me looking at the used market. Currently considering a set of irons from Callaway Steelhead XR's 5-PW, AW, and SW or a set of Ping G30 5-PW, UW. and LW. All senior flex, based on what I have seen in you vids, the either set of clubs would be a good choice. Should I worry much about A vs R flex? How about Ping's color coded lie system?
Average golfer need forgiveness, distance, stopping power, and value! You are right! Some golfers are club junkies! They really need a lesson or two! Like me. I’m average golfer 71, I have three sets, Ben Hogan Apex Edge Forged stiff shorter distance more accurate used $185, Cleveland Hybrid set, good feel clubs regular, new. Regular gamers PXG 0211 X cor2 regular, very nice feel and distance, new. Good thoughts and review! Thank You
Amen!
that rogue X is excellent!
They look nice as well
I hear you on all of these points. As I tell my friends "You are just applying physics to a stick". The equipment in this game will only ever offer you 5% change in results. The rest is up to you.
I like that,im stealing that one😂
My clubs are 2006 Nike Sling shots - still in very good condition
I last played about 10-15yrs ago
Now that I’m in my 50s - I thought abiut getting a set of Taylor made sim2 (4 to PW for £500)
And if I stick with the golf then maybe getting a fitting done
If youre interested in my opinion,i tjink you should at least go try the newer stuff...or see Simon!!
@@UnfilteredGolfer thanks. I am leaning towards getting an ‘interim’ set.
Real talk.
Mate your info is Priceless. Thanks for what you do. I'll not hold my breath on a reply but maybe you can steer me to a better used club choice?
I'm 50. started last year. 26HC but not because I cant hit the ball. I'm usually 3 or 5 off the Tee with a low hook or a high push slice and 3 putting. On the other hand, I can potentially hit driver 300+ with a Ping G SF Tec with Stiff shaft and my 7 iron 190, but I'm using 21yr old Mizuno MX23 with Reg Exar Graphite shafts. From what I can gather these are very close to Traditional Loft at 34*.
Last year I had Mizuno 919 hot metals with reg shafts and I was hitting them great with my 7 around 220yrd but I noticed the dispersion was pretty wild on the bad shots and wanted more control. I found a Mizuno 921 Tour 7 iron in the bargain bin, brand new for £20 so give it ago. Wow. Right away, the weight, the smaller size and when I hit it out the middle it was like stroking a puppies nose with a feather. So i went out to find a set and bought a used set with x-stiff shafts. As great as they were my distance dropped off and I realised quickly that I couldn't feel the head so was on the look out for a replacement. I figured the shaft was too stiff and too heavy.
Here is where it gets interesting. I had a Free fitting with American Golf. I went in with my Mizuno 921 Tour 7 Iron with x-stiff shaft. Back then I was 33hc. The kid laughed at me and called me a Maniac for buying them......until I hit them. 10 shots grouped by around 10 yards at 160. He remarked on the spin and couldn't understand why it was so high at over 7000! I remarked that it was likely because they were traditionally lofted (not sure he knew what I was talking about). anyway, we went thru a series of heads and shafts. He said I was very close to needing Stiff Shafts actually so that's what we used. we tried the Callaway Forged and the Titleist t1000 i think. the balls were flying off the face and going over 200 yrds again but the dispersion was also 100 yrds. Imagine a reverse Triangle on the screen where my 921 Tours was tight at the bottom and all other clubs were spread out further up the field. He was a bit stumped at this point so i asked if he wouldn't mind me hitting my 921 Tour again. By now I was warmed up but the results were pretty much the same except the distance had improved by 10-15yrds.
He shook his head and said he couldn't consciously sell me anything as my control and grouping using the 921 Tours was too good.
So, there it is. Game Improvement = Distance Minus Control.
So here's where you might be able to offer my next club choice. I really like the Mx23's I have but I have considerably slowed down my swing so much so that all my clubs seem to go the same distance unless I hit 100% each time. I'm feeling the strain now. I have a young mans mind but the body is failing a little. I want a more Forgiving club but with the same level of control I have with my MX23's.
Greatly appreciate any suggestions. Thanks.
Hi Paul,
makes a lot of sense. As backspin although can hinder distance helps tighten dispersion. The only irons that have that more loft option and keep an element of forgiveness is Titleist. The Ap2 forged options would be a good starting place mate as there at 33 degrees. 👌
@@SASGolf cheers pal. There's a set in my local pro shop for 400. I'll take a look.
I used to have those TM cgb irons. My ex pawned them when I was on the road. Hate that woman. I loved those clubs. Last time I played them I shot 85 which is really good for me.
Man, I have been looking at some srixons but currently play i3 blades with some o-sizes in there but am missing my 3, 7, and 9 irons.
I play my i3s quite well, 140-pw and so on, not to brag, but I do like the clubs because I hit them pretty to very well.
This video just made my decision tougher whether or not to just buy a few i3 individuals or invest in a used Srixon set.
But appreciated the info, the z785s are calling me though.
I tend to get fitted into graphite shafts.
I usually hold on to them for 4 years because I worry that resale value will fall away if the paint starts to wear.
I guess that wraps may be a solution but could they change the characteristics of the shaft?
This may be a controversial opinion but here’s what I did: I’ve only been playing 2 years, I bought a box store set& net and hit them everyday until every club was broken, got them replaced for free and wore them out also in the first 6 months.
Then I got a brand new taylormade set, stealth2+ woods, Ventus shafts, and I play with pro v1s(when the pond is out of reach😂) - I never blame the clubs- they didn’t swing themselves into the dirt 37” behind the ball?😢
Only regret is that the warranty convenience availability and customer service with taylormade is a joke-I should have bought everything used 😂
It’s nice that Vice golf have appeared on the irons scene with aesthetically appealing clubs, albeit a bit late for the 2024 golfing season, as I might have decided on their more forgiving club. Game improvement irons can’t compete with players distance in terms of aesthetics imo
I am that golfer , my collection of iron and driver shafts is getting ridiculous , i actually do enjoy the building and tweeking and i can now make glorious iron sets to suit anyone , except me that is , my golf hasnt improved at all 🤔 … i just surely havent gotten the balance right ….
So what your saying is the mint condition 2014 Ping Karsten irons (6-PW) I picked up for $160 is just as good as a set of G425 I have my eye on for $400? Better to round out with some glide 3.0 50°/54°/58° and spend the rest on a decent mallet putter? Also had my eye on Sim 2 Max as this irons are now $250 USD at my local shop.
That's a great price for the sim2's.
Which shop is that 😅
@@charlestondad1230 local pro shop - probably grabbing them on the way hone
They currently use a foam or rubber Insert in many clubs...?? Wear n tear on the rubber?? Especially those clubs with the rubber inserts in the sole of the club head
My problem, among many, is trying to find a somewhat newer driver that I can hit more fairways with. It's been rough to the point where I almost want to quit the game.
Lessons ??
@@martcoombs9031 Would like to, but just don't have the extra money to do it.
TaylorMade M4, Srixon Z585, Ping G400 are all solid. Been out for about 5 years so cost less secondhand and are extremely popular!
Cobra rad speeds or LTDx are very good for distance and forgiveness
Hi Simon, I've just lost my 7 Iron 923 Hot Metal Pro last weekend, should I buy exactly the same or different model like Stealth or just move on with 6 or 8 iron that I've already own
Hello mate and sorry to hear that pal, to be honest I would try and get the same. For the obvious reason of it playing similar to the set, but when you come to sell them, the whole set will be worth a lot more. As spilt sets with clubs missing do t go for that much. Hope that helps mate.
Invested in some Muira CB501s 8 years ago, fully fitted with shafts to suit…….. love them, enjoy them even when not able to do them justice. What I found out is that today the blurb and marketing for some pretty average but expensive clubs is just full of lies. My irons are traditional and my 7 iron is 34 degrees, but nowadays is that a 7 iron today is between 25 and 31 degree so really a 5 iron so makes you think it goes further
Yeah but they are easier to hit and get up in the air then lets say 15 years ago..technology did in fact help..just not to the level manufacturers woukd wants us to believe it did..but i agree with you..if the drivers gave me the promised 10 extra yards every year for the last 20 years,id be driving 200 yards further...spoiler:no one does
So many fitters rely almost entirely on ball speed.
I always blame the clubs I mean seriously it can't possibly be my perfect 50 year old swing
Common sense really but the goes out the window with boys and there toys
Been playing with an old set of ping g10 irons, I've never hit so many greens in regulation 170 down, problem is def distance only hitting 8 iron 135max. I'd love to get them lofted slightly stronger to reduce height a bit.
You might try re-shafting those irons with something like KBS shafts. I just did the opposite with my irons. Pulled the KBS graphite 60s from the irons (too low of flight for me, got about 135 yds from the 8 like you, but had problems with them running out too far on the greens), installed Mitsubishi Vanquish 50 shafts and now have a softer, higher flight (these were designed with input from the LPGA and since I'm 75 these shafts are great for me). You can't bend your irons for loft unless they are forged, but you can change shafts and grips (quite a range in weight there which effects swing weight and feel).
@@jamesreynolds4220. Hi James , might try and pick up a set of shafts worth a try . Contacted ping & they will alter lofts , got to go through a local pro to arrange collection . 🤞🤞
Just buy a used ones and get a lesson , practice practice….
So true! Two years ago my then 63 y.o. wife took 10 lessons from a local pro. She came out with a picture perfect swing, and with a lot of practice, now plays on a nearby 18 hole course with me. Last week she hit her driver onto a 160 yard par 3 green and putted for birdy, a joy to behold (I hit my 9 wood on the fringe and 3 putted ;( - for me TH-cam and the golf channel
have improved my swing so that my handicap has remained about the same 'tho I moved up to the gold tees last year at age 75. Buy new clubs when you can afford them.