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The great thing about your videos is the experience you have seeing equipment run over a period of time . Straight out the box reviews tell you very little . Great stuff keep it up .
Cheap is expensive! I am a tool repair technician at Home Depot and I regularly steer customers away from Ryobi products. Some would say we are supposed to stand behind the brands we sell but I choose to stand behind my customers...I sleep well at night lol. Love your videos. I always learn something from you.
Ryobi isn’t a bad brand, and they are actually a company under tti like Milwaukee so you can trust them a lot more than this hunk of junk. But I do agree, buy more capability than you think you need and you will most likely find a use for it anyway, or at worst be working your equipment way less hard than redlining cheap stuff all day.
Gas cap problem is better then fuel just run right back out bottom of fuel tank soon you pour fuel in not just that they ignore your warranty return refund and replace 589$ saw i wish i saw her video before i try this saw out i guess my dumb ass they said eligible for refundable and replacement the warranty you get is ignore you
Neotec these started popping up after farmertec saws. I have stihl chainsaws but also some farmertec saws just today I put a piston and cylinder in my 460 I've had for about 2 years and ran the snot out of it doing small firewood bundles sales. But it was a kit You hit the nail on the head Quality control from the beginning. Thanks love your videos
It was several months ago that you told about to beware of the premixed gas. For the first time my husqvarna weed eater would not start. I went and bought a gallon can, 2 stroke oil and a gallon of gas. After emptying out the gas from the tank and refilling with the new gas it runs now. My son was trying to get me to put it in the shop but I took your advice and did it myself. It runs now. Thanks
I’ve had my NS892 for a little more than two weeks, almost every day for about three-four hrs. per day , and I have to say, I’m impressed. Other then a slight adjustment on the H&L after straight out of the box, runs excellent. And yes, it’s a beast. Wore out my shoulder trying to start it until I saw your video on how to start the big saws. Have not had any more sore shoulders since. Keep up the good work in the videos, they always seem to help.
Hahaha I broke my arm too , I thought I'm the only one. Just banging like crazy I'm like wtf this decomp valve it's not working , later on I found out you have to push it 😂😂😂
I figure they are kinda like another clone product they are hit and miss you know like the good, bad and ugly sometimes you get an good one sometimes a bad one you have to change a plug adjust a carburetor or rebuild it and sometimes you get an ugly one that makes them all look bad!
Nobody says they're not running, performance is pretty much on par with the original. The only issue is how long they last, and how many repairs are needed along the way for that reduced usable life. An OE saw will last 4 times as much while being 4 times more expensive and with less issue along the way. Just look up "Belko Wood" on youtube, a professional chainsaw miller from Belarus. He has a beaten up MS 880, bought a Holzfforma 888 about a year and a half ago, and a month or two after that it wall already a hybrid saw from all the crap he had to replace on it. A year after that he was back to using that old MS 880 again which still runs! Remember this guy chainsaw mills many hours, EVERY DAY.
You gets what you pays for. Our oldest piece of lawn equipment is now 44 years old, and runs fantastically. Our oldest Stihl is now turning 20 years old and keeps on running. Buy the best you can afford - THEN MAINTAIN IT!
everything is made in china now you silly boomer. get over it. if you think chinese metallurgy isn't better than what we were doing 44 years ago I don't know what to tell you lol
I have a neo tec 892. I did have to adjust the carb out of the box but other than that it's been running every day for 6 months with no problems. As far as clones go it's a pretty good saw. I also have several other stihl saws ms660's , 661's and a 500i
I have a holzfforma and work for the state in forestry id put it up against my work saw any day of the week. I run a 461 at work. G466 at home. Bark box and wcs dogs hi flow intake.
Randy we have the same last name And pretty much same saws Neotec 892 Stihl 660,039,271 So fat I've got about 40 hours on the neo just carburator adjustments I run a 24 inch hard-nose bar with on problem
The product is 5 times less than a Stihl and for a majority of people using chainsaws, they are not commercial logging people and don’t run a big saw everyday. The unit might poop out 5 times faster, but that’s enough to clear my 40 acre property.
In my time on this earth, I have come to realize that many of the "life lessons" we learn when we are younger, evolve over time, as we gain life experience and wisdom. One of the things that never, ever changes: You get what you pay for.
I am Wathching from South Australia I have always runs stihl chainsaws I"ve got 1 chainsaws with 0ne is 30 years old and still run good. I"ve had a good run with Sthl chainsaws I have updated to the StihI 881 Magnum it is alovely saws I do not look other brands. Cheers Donald
What's the old saying? You get what you pay for. This is clear proof that it is true. Buy quality get quality/satisfaction. Buy crap get a whole lotta down time/frustrations aplenty. Thanks for furthering our education and knowledge and teaching us how important it is to get good stuff for just a bit more. The 2012 455 e Husqvarna my father bought me brand new is still running strong and I have only had to buy new chains and a sprocket. It has done so much for me and my father over the years and never quit. Still looks almost brand new too. Just recently upgraded to the 24" inch bar. Needed it for the bigger stuff.
I bought a new 455 in 2006 and it's cut over 100 cords of wood in 15+ years. I also run a 24" bar when bucking large red oaks. But it was getting tired and the compression was down to 106 psi. This spring I installed a 460 piston and cylinder to freshen it up. The cost is about the same as a 455 piston and cylinder so why not? Now the saw has more power than ever and should last another 15+ years (I'll be 80 by then) 😀
I have been working on small engine all my life and I'm so happy to see a young lady working on small engine I could not get my girls out there to learn how to do mechanics
I bought an 066 Stihl back in '99 the first day it kicked back and the handle smacked into the top cover and busted a big hole in it ... And I had to modify the choke because it was missing fast idle .. (same common problem I have with the Chinese 660's) she's been a good saw ... But just watch your air intake and don't let leaves clog it up it only takes a few seconds for it to get hot enough to transfer metal from the piston to the cylinder.. I had to take mine apart and clean the metal transfer off the cylinder and unstick the rings it had minimal damage basically just a couple of little scratches on the piston .. it's been running fine ever since I used it yesterday still has all of its ponies .. the Blue thunder G660 farmertec saw I've been using for 5 years now and she's been running flawlessly seem like it pretty well on par with the Stihl ... And I just bought a 066 pro carbon fiber edition with Meteor piston cylinder and Caber rings ..and I put a dual Port muffler on it I've only used it about 3 hours but man that thing screams ... I purchased a G888 and had to replace the coil right off the bat it flooded really bad had to modify the carburetor then it ran awesome for about 15 minutes and grenaded the crank bearings ... I went on the Stihl's website to see if they had any problem complaints with their 880 and 088 and indeed some people were complaining about the same problems from their stihls as far as the catastrophic crank bearing issue
Agreed, and thanks for your experienced insight. While growing up in Michigan and my father bought a new Stihl 029 back in '85 which we used to cut wood for heat. Just had to crank it up again last week to cut trees after hurricane Ian came through here in FL. After using it all afternoon I realized we have had to change the bar once and have been through some chains but everything else is original . I doubt they make them as durable today but this says a lot to me.
The older stihl saws 025 026 029 036 044 046 066 were all of the highest quality. Stihls today are of high quality just not as good as they use to be. You wouldn't believe how many people buy these aftermarket knock off saws like this 660 knockoff thinking they are getting stihl power and quality for a few hundred dollars then whine about it when it breaks down beyond repair. The only decent quality stihl clones I have seen are the farmertec kit saws that you put together yourself. That's only because most people add genuine stihl parts that are very important like the recoil guts and carburetor and piston rings and oil seals. The farmertec kit saws still ain't a stihl but are pretty decent. I would not buy the holtzforrma or neotec or whatever others that come pre built. But if you want genuine stihl saw, get a stihl saw or whatever piece of outdoor equipment you need. Costs a lot more but like the old saying goes, buy once cry once.
The cylinder scouring is from a sharp edge of the ports which should have had a rounded edge to avoid the rings/cylinder from being lightly damaged during running.
The scoring was all the way around the cylinder. The report was that the saw only ran for a few seconds, so I would suspect debris was either in the cylinder from the first or the rings were dirty.
Have a Homelite XL 12 I bought in 1975. Cut hundreds of trees with it. Clean after use. Fresh, non ethanol gas. Rebuilt card a few times. Still runs strong today.
I have a 12 year old Sthil chainsaw and it still runs just as strong as the day I bought it. Other than some carburetor rebuilds over the years, a new bar and chain, and now using Sthil MotoMix 50:1 fuel, I'll still have it another 12 years🤞. I'd never buy any other brand, and certainly no Chinese knock-off. Spend the extra cash and get a " real" Sthil, you won't be disappointed.
Thanks for the great warning video! My “new” saw is a Husky 385XP I bought on half price sale ($400 for an $800 saw) as a demo saw in 2002 (it’s presently the base saw for my Alaskan saw mill). The small saw I still use is a Homelite Super EZ Auto I bought at the same shop in 1974. Buy a good saw, take care of it, and it will last.
ive still got one my father had an cut wood to heat his house for 15 years back in the 70s, i replaced the coil once an it still runs like a new saw. in any conditions imaginable lol
Love the channel. I was surprised you did not check compression especially when you found that scoring. You usually do this second after the water check in the fuel, so you don't waste time on a dead machine. Yes, the material coming out of you know where is lovingly termed "Chinesium" by AvE. If you adopted a more set procedure, it will prevent overlooking this and keep the process in order. That's what I stress teaching service on gas fireplaces. Your tips have already helped me on my lawn equipment-Thx!
I bought the NeoTech 872 after I got screwed by a Stihl dealership putting unmixed fuel on a brand-new Stihl that burned on the first tree I was cutting. Anyway, after a few jobs it is still running well. So far, I have billed $5600 for work done with this saw. I have had it for 2 months now. One of the trees had a diameter of 42 inches. I don't know why that was junk but mine still looks new with no cracks or dents. When I bought mine I didnt realize there was a upgraded one for a few dollars more which I should have bought but like I said I did not know
i have a neo tec 892 runs great. i wrecked my side by side saw went flying up in the air landed upside down on the paved road but did not break anything.
Thanks for the video Bre. I have a story for the "buy once, cry once" & "you get what you pay for" crowd. A friend was removing old carpet from a pontoon boat deck. I offered her my HFT oscillating multi-tool with a flat blade to see if it worked. It turned out to be the best thing she had for cutting the glued down carpet but it still took hours of work. She was (needlessly) concerned about wrecking my tool so paid $$$ for a top brand. The expensive tool died before the job was done and she finished with the cheap HFT tool. Paying a high price is no guarantee you'll get better value.
With a high reputable brand, you might have a bad luck with one tool out of 20. With a cheap one (like the one in the video), you will probably run into issues constantly. That's the main difference. Now, HFT are better quality than this chainsaw clone and will probably run for a decent amount of time.
That’s why I keep a tube of JB Weld on my desk. I am constantly finding places to use it. It is fuel resistant and can be shaped to repair almost anything.I used it recently to repair the clasp on my Troy built’s air filter cover, which had been broken by its former owner. It may not be pretty but it works and is a lot cheaper than buying a new air filter cover.
@@eathans_small_engines8665 I have used it to repair stripped threads I plastic on chainsaws. I clean the hole with break cleaner and blow it out with air. I take a toothpick and put it on the stripped threads. I put grease on a new bolt and screw it in loosely into the hole. Let it dry in a warm place for an hour and take the bolt out. The next day I screw it into the hole gingerly. The only other choice is putting a heli-coil in the hole. My way will work for screws that don’t have a lot of torque on them. If the screw into metal or have a lot of torque on them I would use a heli-coil.
Watched about 7 minutes of the video and never heard of Neotec. Paused the video and opened their site, and it's Chinese. Started the video over and it made way more sense. At least they are consistent.
My buddy has a fleet of these clone chainsaw & he swear their just as good as stihl. He gets the one you have to build, so he can port them. My buddy owns the 2nd largest tree company in Pensacola.
I've had the blue version of the 66 clone and I love it. I had to change to oem chain tensioner, but the saw ran great out of the box. I added a Tsumura bar and Stihl chain. After a year I gave a slight carb adjustment. Runs great. Dependable. It's a big saw so some may find it cumbersome. It is a little too big for average homeowner/firewood work. I use it for falling and bucking on large trees on large parcels.
We had a customer bring in a full on counterfeit MS 660 Magnum a couple weeks ago, serial number 0014. We thought it was a stolen saw at first then got to scrutinizing it closer. The crooks that made it even copied the part numbers on the parts but left the logo off them. It's now sitting on our show and tell rack.
I'm going on month 6 of quite a bit of milling with my Neo Tec 8105/070, only thing so far is broken clutch spring, probably from the saw dust with the saw constantly running on its side.
So I bought a NeoTec 892. I didn't trust the H/L needle valve settings so went to screw them in all the way and the Low side doesn't seem to bottom out. It gets tight but I don't want to overtighten. And ideas? Pull the carb out and take a closer look?
Greg from northern Michigan. Great video ! I firmly believe that "Quality doesn't cost, it pays" . Many lower cost oversea companies believe "If your going to buy shit, make sure it's cheap shit" . Enough said.
There are no chamfers on those ports!! That is likely where the scoring came from. That will probably catch a ring in a port and destroy the top end in a very short period of time. I doubt that saw would get though the one tree with a cylinder like that. I would love to see the ring end gap on that thing, probably doesn't have any, which could also be a cause of the scoring in that cylinder
G444,G466,070 all blue thunders run perfect 3 years so far 18,28,42 inch bars. Cut 10 - 94foot oaks last year. cutting all oak here. New they need to run rich there super tight old school brake in.
I have the holzforma farmertec 660 now for over 2 years, used commercially almost daily, zero issues at all. The issue of the 2 dead ones that talk about, I wonder where they using an incorrect fuel/oil mix? I run mine at 40-1. Perhaps that was an issue. I have read and seen videos of some folk having issues with them, but I have seen many many more videos and read online of folk with my experience, nothing to complain about the saw. I wish I could justify spending the money on a new Stihl as all my climbing saws are Stihl, but the farmertec hasn't failed me yet. My only criticism of my saw is it is very fuel hungry. But then again, it's a brute of a saw cutting big wood. So it's to be expected I guess.
I’m a cheap customer that has all high end equipment these days. I bought a Chinese 660 Clown saw because I was buy curious. Got a big job requiring a big saw that I didn’t want to spend $1700 on. Gonna slap a few oem on it. Honestly I’m very impressed. Recon I got lucky.
I would just look around until you find a quality saw used in good condition. I needed a larger saw to take out several larger trees my old 021 would struggle with. Found an 038 av mag2 72cc in amazing shape for $125 bought a new bar and chain. Filters and lines. Now I have a saw that will last me forever as often as I need something that large
Just looking at the first video you made of this saw when you change the diaphragm on the carburettor yes the needle was in the wrong position but when you reassembled it you didn't put diaphragm underneath the needle in the little V slop so it was still pushing against it which would have made it flood out and hard to start again like I said on the recent video you just made of this machine on the second video you made you wonder how it came out he didn't come out you didn't clip it in
On your chainsaw I can't see the paint chips scoring the cylinder but they really don't help, but something got in there, keep looking and have a grate day 😊. Verne Farmall kid.
I’m not a mechanic. I was a healthcare provider for almost 40 years. Been to a lot of lectures (continuing education) and I must say that your knowledge base continues to amaze me and sometimes they are far more interesting than medicine. Keep up the good work. Bill
Many thanks. Great overview/review. I've owned a poor quality saw and it was frustrating every time I tried to use it. Bought better saws and it was a whole world of difference.
@skutch Blobaum Likely you, by the number of post you have made? Tell us, are you the distributor or someone from the marketing/sales/manufacturing of this brand?
I bought one. I paid about $140(ish) after tax and shipping. First time i used it was on a $2500 job. It's the only saw i used in the tree, and a 362 on the ground and found no running issues with it. I could have gotten a lemon tho, lol.
I purchased the NEO-TEC 12'' Top Handle Gas Chainsaw 2-Stroke 25.4cc from Amazon. The package had everything included, and I had to adjust a little on the carburetor, but it cut and ran fairly good. Sometimes it would stop going to idle if I did not hit the throttle a little, but it worked good. I manually oil the chain and bar rather than place bar oil in the reservoir.
@@AAckeltonDDDDYY In the rare case where i've ran out of oil before fuel, I can tell within one cut that the chain is dry. Even on an arborist sized saw like this one that is beyond impractical. Before automatic oilers there were pump oilers. Both exist because chainsaws can generate a MASSIVE amount of friction in the cutting process. I do not see any practical motive here. It's like saying "I don't use the carburetor I just squirt fuel in with a windex bottle" "Manually" applying oil is a great way to get not just the bar and chain hot (and excessively worn) but getting the clutch side of the crank hot and destroying the crank seals.
Yep for $75 including shipping I got one of the Chicom 52cc’s and it’s actually a pretty good running and cutting saw. No it’s not as good as my Stihl and Husky saws or even in the same hemisphere but for $75….come on Mam !
@@shannonwhitaker9630, I have comments above on two other comments. I have a Tornado and it runs and cuts great! Hunnert bucks! My current favorite saw is a Tanaka (way more than a hunnert bucks)! Love that saw too!
No champher on the exhaust port- probably scraped off chrome by the ring and scratched cylinder and piston. Scratches apparent on piston viewed when muffler removed.
I own 2 holzfforma saws and several vintage saws. I'd rather run the holzfforma because parts are available. The vintage saws I own are better quality but parts are not readily available.
I like the scope, looks as though the factory doesn't bother to even chamfer the ports like should be done. Did many dirt bike engines and larger two stroke overhauls and always was careful to chamfer to keep from a ring snag. Thanks for your very informative and well put together vids!
I don't normally comment but must tell you that you impress me alot...yur professional smart and purdy. I agree about them junk saws and thanks for the info mam..
Mine's done beautifully for over two years with regular use. You just have to know how to treat a lady from the get go, and if you do she'll treat you right - it's a fine machine.
You are one sharp mechanic. Love your videos and a special thanks for attaching an import. I have a farmtec and it cuts great. I want to change the carb in the future.
I have a neotec 872 and it’s been a beast. I didn’t think it was going to go this well but I’m a fan! Make sure your buying them from a reputable seller or from neotec themselves. That’s what I did and I put an ngk plug in it, tuned it. And ran. Got some wcs 3point dogs for it and it’s been great for over a year. The new Farm Mac line Neo Tec has out is using some great parts also I’m going to grab a 660 for my mill since I’m using it more now. Anyway! Good luck and there’re not all junk!:)
I agree I have the updated Neo Tec 872I I’ve had none of the issues I’ve seen in your video I did get it straight from Neo Tec , I also have 2 echos a cs590 and a cs 490 the Neo Tec has been good so far.
We have yet to see one of those these stellar pieces of quality Chinese workmanship, however, I definitely need to thank you for the heads-up warning ! I'd like to say you get what you pay for, but at $400 bucks you might want to take that same $400 and buy an equal value Stihl, Echo, or Shindaiwa saw, maybe half the size saw, but with proper care, will very likely last you a lifetime ! Thanks again for the heads up Miss C !
How did that chainsaw pass inspection at the factory? Apparently they never started it to make sure it ran before shipping it. Yeah, i agree, that thing is for the scrapper!
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I just bought a Neo-tec NH 872 (372xp Husqvarna clone) with a 24 Inch bar for 380 bucks on amazon.....i debated a long time before the purchase of this chinese made saw.....on ebay you couldn't hardly find a used 372 xp for under 450 bucks......I will say that the 24inch bar on this saw is much heavier that the 18 inch bar on my 350 husqvarna.....i have used this 372 xp clone only one time and it did work quite well......had i seen your video before making the purchanse i would'nt have bought this neotec knock off.
All the specs ive seen for the gray saws is a 25/1 mix. You run em at 50 mix with rpms of a oem version, simply, they will die. . I have one of the classic versions of the 372 husky farmertec/gray saws, and im at 100 tanks or so in 4 years. With minimum issues. 1 Pull string, 1 kill swich and 3 plugs. After the first 5 gal of 25/1 mix i went to 32/1 and always clear 92. No issues with bugs when running it ha ha. Compression is still around 180psi without the base gasket. . To comply with law i did swap it to a proper, un-modded spark screen muffler to avoid a big ticket.
well i have a ms250 clone from haultz former and i have had it for over 3 years and i have worked the hell out of it and the only things i have had problems with is the clutch and pull start and it run very good it starts 1st or second pull!!
I think to be safe, buy the smaller power equipment from a reputable dealer, be it Stihl, Echo, or Huskavarney. Whatever you prefer. In my experience, I've bought a number of pieces of equipment from dealers, it was test ran, set up and has not been a problem since. And if you do buy from an equipment dealer, be sure to explain to them how often the equipment is used, and they can recommend the right fuel to use with it, and maintenance requirements. These little machines can be very expensive to buy especially if you are running commercial grade, but investing in quality equipment, and the right maintenance and support, they will outlive their aftermarket counterparts.
If I am using one of these (or a Stihl) to cut ice holes in a lake where we do not use bar oil, will the oil pump burn out from running the saw without bar oil?
I have a ms 311 when I'm cutting about the second or third cut it looks like the bar is smoking. Looks like it is oiling the chain so I'm not sure what to do next. Can you send some good ideas on hiw to fix please
If you buy the 892 buy the kit. If you inspect each part as you build it, file the sharp cylinder ports and tune the carb starting at 1 1/2 turns from seat on both screws(maybe take the carb apart first to have a look) Kinda a fun project for the weekend wussies
Few years ago I bought a new Karcher pressure washer the engine casing was very thin it had a hold in the casing behind the flywheel similar to the chainsaw gas cap
I read a lot of comments here that just seem to be whining about cheap saws. Like it is surprising that when you buy a cheap saw, you actually get a cheap saw. Do you expect that a cheap saw should be made of gold? If you don’t want a cheap saw, don’t buy a cheap saw. I wanted a cheap saw a couple of years ago. Well, actually I wanted a cheap box of parts that I could assemble into a cheap saw. I didn’t need a $2000 saw. I wanted a parts kit that I could enjoy putting together, and maybe use to cut a large tree now and then. I am very happy with my parts kit.
Love yr videos and the no BS , straight down the line. Never was one to fix small engines ever, but since watching yr videos, have repaired lots of good old brush cutters all my chain saws, except one. Watched a video of yrs the other night on repairing old fuel lines on a Husky the same as I have, tried 1once couldn't wasn't sure on handle to take off and where fuel lines went. Well 2nd attempt about to happen. Thxs and keep the videos coming.
Hello I have a question. Do you ever fix or rebuild Old chainsaws? If so how do you get parts on saws that are from the 70's. I have a Skil 1616 chainsaw , the coil wire pulled out of the coil and it also seems the coil is bad anyway. I have tried searching ebay and the web in general for coils that are for that model but nothing. Is there a way to find a coil made for another saw that will work? Thanks Bre
@@fedora5926 she does and she definitely good at what she does... But she always just does carb cleans and adjustments and sometimes will it run videos!! I'd like to see more in-depth videos
@@garyalensr Chickanic's videos and know how have saved me a bunch of time and cash that's for sure. I also like the tool recommendations, Will definitely purchase the endoscope used in this video.
Hey Gary! Have you looked through my old videos? I see you're a subscriber, so thank you so much! Although I have only been consistently making TH-cam videos for the last 15 months instead of channels like Taryls (which is awesome) for the last 8 years, I have A LOT of catching up to do making videos for the majority of people who truly "need" them which is just regular homeowners trying to fix their typical stuff. At the same time as I try to make two videos a week, I am still working 40 hours a week at the shop, repairing about 6-7 units a day. Many times I find a customers unit that is a common problem and share it with everyone since I know there are many others who will have the same issue. I always try to throw in something like this 50 year old wacker packer video. th-cam.com/video/fn1SGQRZgbY/w-d-xo.html Or a complete tear down and camshaft replacement like this one. th-cam.com/video/2i54SK_SMPU/w-d-xo.html Or even a complete cylinder and piston replacement like this. th-cam.com/video/PDygoRPKj18/w-d-xo.html At the same time I make videos about information I feel people truly need to save them a bunch of money. Eventually I will run out of these topics and have to find old stuff to restore like Taryl and Mustie, so hopefully you hang along with me for the ride.
I agree with you professionals should get the best equipment, not going to look good if your saw breaks in middle of job. I can believe that the paint could scare cylinder wall, I have done mechanical work in past and with tight tolerance does not take much. I watch guy's at gun range making similar mistakes, before the shooting starts they grab can of spray oil and soak down chamber. I told my friend can you imagine what it is going to do to the chamber as all the unburnt gun powder, dust and dirt gets caught in oil. I told him that chamber is going to be sliding on something similar to course sandpaper, clean gun and light oil before match less chance of malfunction and damage. The same with your saw at end of day clean up and sharpen chain makes next job easier and tools last longer.
Crazy I have there 68cc saw love it just a little work to get it running perfect for Oklahoma and I'm not greenhorn my first summer time job was logging I also collect vintage McCulloch saws (best saws ever) I got about 20hrs on my neo cutting hardwood 20+ inch trunks so it may just be a little hit and miss
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The great thing about your videos is the experience you have seeing equipment run over a period of time . Straight out the box reviews tell you very little . Great stuff keep it up .
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Cheap is expensive! I am a tool repair technician at Home Depot and I regularly steer customers away from Ryobi products. Some would say we are supposed to stand behind the brands we sell but I choose to stand behind my customers...I sleep well at night lol. Love your videos. I always learn something from you.
Ryobi isn’t a bad brand, and they are actually a company under tti like Milwaukee so you can trust them a lot more than this hunk of junk. But I do agree, buy more capability than you think you need and you will most likely find a use for it anyway, or at worst be working your equipment way less hard than redlining cheap stuff all day.
I love my ryobi tools. Use makita at work, yea they are nice but not worth the money at home
The hole in the gas cap was to prevent a vacuum when all the gas was pouring out through the muffler.
Gas cap problem is better then fuel just run right back out bottom of fuel tank soon you pour fuel in not just that they ignore your warranty return refund and replace 589$ saw i wish i saw her video before i try this saw out i guess my dumb ass they said eligible for refundable and replacement the warranty you get is ignore you
That's a speed hole. It makes the saw go faster.
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What saw is the ncs 6200 a copy of?
Neotec these started popping up after farmertec saws. I have stihl chainsaws but also some farmertec saws just today I put a piston and cylinder in my 460 I've had for about 2 years and ran the snot out of it doing small firewood bundles sales. But it was a kit You hit the nail on the head Quality control from the beginning. Thanks love your videos
It was several months ago that you told about to beware of the premixed gas. For the first time my husqvarna weed eater would not start. I went and bought a gallon can, 2 stroke oil and a gallon of gas. After emptying out the gas from the tank and refilling with the new gas it runs now. My son was trying to get me to put it in the shop but I took your advice and did it myself. It runs now. Thanks
I’ve had my NS892 for a little more than two weeks, almost every day for about three-four hrs. per day , and I have to say, I’m impressed. Other then a slight adjustment on the H&L after straight out of the box, runs excellent. And yes, it’s a beast. Wore out my shoulder trying to start it until I saw your video on how to start the big saws. Have not had any more sore shoulders since. Keep up the good work in the videos, they always seem to help.
Hahaha I broke my arm too , I thought I'm the only one. Just banging like crazy I'm like wtf this decomp valve it's not working , later on I found out you have to push it 😂😂😂
I figure they are kinda like another clone product they are hit and miss you know like the good, bad and ugly sometimes you get an good one sometimes a bad one you have to change a plug adjust a carburetor or rebuild it and sometimes you get an ugly one that makes them all look bad!
Nobody says they're not running, performance is pretty much on par with the original. The only issue is how long they last, and how many repairs are needed along the way for that reduced usable life. An OE saw will last 4 times as much while being 4 times more expensive and with less issue along the way.
Just look up "Belko Wood" on youtube, a professional chainsaw miller from Belarus. He has a beaten up MS 880, bought a Holzfforma 888 about a year and a half ago, and a month or two after that it wall already a hybrid saw from all the crap he had to replace on it. A year after that he was back to using that old MS 880 again which still runs! Remember this guy chainsaw mills many hours, EVERY DAY.
You gets what you pays for. Our oldest piece of lawn equipment is now 44 years old, and runs fantastically. Our oldest Stihl is now turning 20 years old and keeps on running. Buy the best you can afford - THEN MAINTAIN IT!
everything is made in china now you silly boomer. get over it. if you think chinese metallurgy isn't better than what we were doing 44 years ago I don't know what to tell you lol
Well said. 😎👍
Or buy something for 1/5 th of the cost that will last 5 years
Buy once cry once!
I have a neo tec 892. I did have to adjust the carb out of the box but other than that it's been running every day for 6 months with no problems. As far as clones go it's a pretty good saw. I also have several other stihl saws ms660's , 661's and a 500i
I have a holzfforma and work for the state in forestry id put it up against my work saw any day of the week. I run a 461 at work. G466 at home. Bark box and wcs dogs hi flow intake.
Randy we have the same last name
And pretty much same saws
Neotec 892 Stihl 660,039,271
So fat I've got about 40 hours on the neo just carburator adjustments I run a 24 inch hard-nose bar with on problem
The product is 5 times less than a Stihl and for a majority of people using chainsaws, they are not commercial logging people and don’t run a big saw everyday. The unit might poop out 5 times faster, but that’s enough to clear my 40 acre property.
Ya she's full of crap, I have a G888 clone an that saw rips! Way better then OEM.
In my time on this earth, I have come to realize that many of the "life lessons" we learn when we are younger, evolve over time, as we gain life experience and wisdom. One of the things that never, ever changes: You get what you pay for.
I am Wathching from South Australia
I have always runs stihl chainsaws I"ve got 1 chainsaws with 0ne is 30 years old and still run good. I"ve had a good run with Sthl chainsaws I have updated to the StihI 881 Magnum it is alovely saws I do not look other brands.
Cheers Donald
What's the old saying? You get what you pay for. This is clear proof that it is true. Buy quality get quality/satisfaction. Buy crap get a whole lotta down time/frustrations aplenty. Thanks for furthering our education and knowledge and teaching us how important it is to get good stuff for just a bit more. The 2012 455 e Husqvarna my father bought me brand new is still running strong and I have only had to buy new chains and a sprocket. It has done so much for me and my father over the years and never quit. Still looks almost brand new too. Just recently upgraded to the 24" inch bar. Needed it for the bigger stuff.
I bought a new 455 in 2006 and it's cut over 100 cords of wood in 15+ years. I also run a 24" bar when bucking large red oaks. But it was getting tired and the compression was down to 106 psi. This spring I installed a 460 piston and cylinder to freshen it up. The cost is about the same as a 455 piston and cylinder so why not? Now the saw has more power than ever and should last another 15+ years (I'll be 80 by then) 😀
I have been working on small engine all my life and I'm so happy to see a young lady working on small engine I could not get my girls out there to learn how to do mechanics
I bought an 066 Stihl back in '99 the first day it kicked back and the handle smacked into the top cover and busted a big hole in it ... And I had to modify the choke because it was missing fast idle .. (same common problem I have with the Chinese 660's) she's been a good saw ... But just watch your air intake and don't let leaves clog it up it only takes a few seconds for it to get hot enough to transfer metal from the piston to the cylinder.. I had to take mine apart and clean the metal transfer off the cylinder and unstick the rings it had minimal damage basically just a couple of little scratches on the piston .. it's been running fine ever since I used it yesterday still has all of its ponies .. the Blue thunder G660 farmertec saw I've been using for 5 years now and she's been running flawlessly seem like it pretty well on par with the Stihl ... And I just bought a 066 pro carbon fiber edition with Meteor piston cylinder and Caber rings ..and I put a dual Port muffler on it I've only used it about 3 hours but man that thing screams ... I purchased a G888 and had to replace the coil right off the bat it flooded really bad had to modify the carburetor then it ran awesome for about 15 minutes and grenaded the crank bearings ... I went on the Stihl's website to see if they had any problem complaints with their 880 and 088 and indeed some people were complaining about the same problems from their stihls as far as the catastrophic crank bearing issue
Great video. Terrific information on this saw. Thanks for the great work.
Agreed, and thanks for your experienced insight.
While growing up in Michigan and my father bought a new Stihl 029 back in '85 which we used to cut wood for heat. Just had to crank it up again last week to cut trees after hurricane Ian came through here in FL. After using it all afternoon I realized we have had to change the bar once and have been through some chains but everything else is original . I doubt they make them as durable today but this says a lot to me.
Lots of after market parts for it if it breaks so dont throw it out , fix it.
The older stihl saws 025 026 029 036 044 046 066 were all of the highest quality. Stihls today are of high quality just not as good as they use to be. You wouldn't believe how many people buy these aftermarket knock off saws like this 660 knockoff thinking they are getting stihl power and quality for a few hundred dollars then whine about it when it breaks down beyond repair. The only decent quality stihl clones I have seen are the farmertec kit saws that you put together yourself. That's only because most people add genuine stihl parts that are very important like the recoil guts and carburetor and piston rings and oil seals. The farmertec kit saws still ain't a stihl but are pretty decent. I would not buy the holtzforrma or neotec or whatever others that come pre built. But if you want genuine stihl saw, get a stihl saw or whatever piece of outdoor equipment you need. Costs a lot more but like the old saying goes, buy once cry once.
The cylinder scouring is from a sharp edge of the ports which should have had a rounded edge to avoid the rings/cylinder from being lightly damaged during running.
Taryl would have found that right away.
@harmony connie scam bot
You can see it was never ported properly. What a hunk of trash!
The scoring was all the way around the cylinder. The report was that the saw only ran for a few seconds, so I would suspect debris was either in the cylinder from the first or the rings were dirty.
Sounds like a knowledgeable assessment. I think you are right.
Have a Homelite XL 12 I bought in 1975. Cut hundreds of trees with it. Clean after use. Fresh, non ethanol gas. Rebuilt card a few times. Still runs strong today.
I have a 12 year old Sthil chainsaw and it still runs just as strong as the day I bought it. Other than some carburetor rebuilds over the years, a new bar and chain, and now using Sthil MotoMix 50:1 fuel, I'll still have it another 12 years🤞. I'd never buy any other brand, and certainly no Chinese knock-off. Spend the extra cash and get a " real" Sthil, you won't be disappointed.
Thanks for the great warning video! My “new” saw is a Husky 385XP I bought on half price sale ($400 for an $800 saw) as a demo saw in 2002 (it’s presently the base saw for my Alaskan saw mill). The small saw I still use is a Homelite Super EZ Auto I bought at the same shop in 1974. Buy a good saw, take care of it, and it will last.
ive still got one my father had an cut wood to heat his house for 15 years back in the 70s, i replaced the coil once an it still runs like a new saw. in any conditions imaginable lol
I bought a 385xp in 2002. It's felled thousands of tons and still runs as good as new. Real long term value for money.
You are a good teacher n I enjoy being in your classroom
Love the channel. I was surprised you did not check compression especially when you found that scoring. You usually do this second after the water check in the fuel, so you don't waste time on a dead machine.
Yes, the material coming out of you know where is lovingly termed "Chinesium" by AvE. If you adopted a more set procedure, it will prevent overlooking this and keep the process in order. That's what I stress teaching service on gas fireplaces.
Your tips have already helped me on my lawn equipment-Thx!
Thanks for the heads up on that someone just told me about those and I was going to look into it you saved me the disappointment
That's why I need to see a receipt when watching any kind of review. Especially on youtube! Nice to know this channel has some integrity! Subbed
I bought the NeoTech 872 after I got screwed by a Stihl dealership putting unmixed fuel on a brand-new Stihl that burned on the first tree I was cutting. Anyway, after a few jobs it is still running well. So far, I have billed $5600 for work done with this saw. I have had it for 2 months now. One of the trees had a diameter of 42 inches. I don't know why that was junk but mine still looks new with no cracks or dents. When I bought mine I didnt realize there was a upgraded one for a few dollars more which I should have bought but like I said I did not know
i have a neo tec 892 runs great. i wrecked my side by side saw went flying up in the air landed upside down on the paved road but did not break anything.
Your videos reviews are a welcome change. All "substance" and no "fluff"!!
Thanks for the video Bre. I have a story for the "buy once, cry once" & "you get what you pay for" crowd. A friend was removing old carpet from a pontoon boat deck. I offered her my HFT oscillating multi-tool with a flat blade to see if it worked. It turned out to be the best thing she had for cutting the glued down carpet but it still took hours of work. She was (needlessly) concerned about wrecking my tool so paid $$$ for a top brand. The expensive tool died before the job was done and she finished with the cheap HFT tool. Paying a high price is no guarantee you'll get better value.
With a high reputable brand, you might have a bad luck with one tool out of 20. With a cheap one (like the one in the video), you will probably run into issues constantly. That's the main difference. Now, HFT are better quality than this chainsaw clone and will probably run for a decent amount of time.
Bet that $$$$ brand was NOT makita. It was definitely Milwaukee or Dewalt
@@TrollinCrazyRussian I'm terribly sorry to have challenged your assumptions but it was most definitely a Makita. 😂😆😂
That’s why I keep a tube of JB Weld on my desk. I am constantly finding places to use it. It is fuel resistant and can be shaped to repair almost anything.I used it recently to repair the clasp on my Troy built’s air filter cover, which had been broken by its former owner. It may not be pretty but it works and is a lot cheaper than buying a new air filter cover.
Could it work to repair stripped threads in a chainsaw body for a carb?
John,
I thought the same thing, or epoxy? Put some plastic on the inside and fill the hole?
Yes I think I’d use it for that fix. I’ve used it on marine gas tanks with success, fuel didn’t efffect it👍
@@eathans_small_engines8665 I have used it to repair stripped threads I plastic on chainsaws. I clean the hole with break cleaner and blow it out with air. I take a toothpick and put it on the stripped threads. I put grease on a new bolt and screw it in loosely into the hole. Let it dry in a warm place for an hour and take the bolt out. The next day I screw it into the hole gingerly. The only other choice is putting a heli-coil in the hole. My way will work for screws that don’t have a lot of torque on them. If the screw into metal or have a lot of torque on them I would use a heli-coil.
@@johnclarke6647 I ended up using my epoxy becuase I already had it! It is on a carb bolt on my 32cc mcCulloch saw
Watched about 7 minutes of the video and never heard of Neotec. Paused the video and opened their site, and it's Chinese. Started the video over and it made way more sense. At least they are consistent.
My buddy has a fleet of these clone chainsaw & he swear their just as good as stihl. He gets the one you have to build, so he can port them. My buddy owns the 2nd largest tree company in Pensacola.
I've had the blue version of the 66 clone and I love it. I had to change to oem chain tensioner, but the saw ran great out of the box. I added a Tsumura bar and Stihl chain.
After a year I gave a slight carb adjustment. Runs great. Dependable. It's a big saw so some may find it cumbersome. It is a little too big for average homeowner/firewood work. I use it for falling and bucking on large trees on large parcels.
I'm two years into mine, treat her well, drain the gas & burn it out if she ever sits for long. It's been perfect.
Wow that saw is poorly made , it might look tough but deep down inside its junk. Good video right there 👍
@skutch Blobaum that's what I was thinking.......I was thinking it's a return and resold....
Someone whos like "heh..my saws orange, people will think its a stihl"
Holfman clone supposed to be so good and even takes the same parts
We had a customer bring in a full on counterfeit MS 660 Magnum a couple weeks ago, serial number 0014. We thought it was a stolen saw at first then got to scrutinizing it closer. The crooks that made it even copied the part numbers on the parts but left the logo off them. It's now sitting on our show and tell rack.
Did you "sthil" it from the customer lol
@@ryangiltner5640 The boss asked him if they could keep it as a show and tell piece. He gladly volunteered it for that purpose.
Hi mate ,i have a neotec 070 i have been using for slabing for over 12 months and hasn't missed a beat so for
I'm going on month 6 of quite a bit of milling with my Neo Tec 8105/070, only thing so far is broken clutch spring, probably from the saw dust with the saw constantly running on its side.
I like your honesty.and you are a great teacher.
Another great video young lady. You are a natural for this stuff! 😁👍
Thank you so much 😁
So I bought a NeoTec 892. I didn't trust the H/L needle valve settings so went to screw them in all the way and the Low side doesn't seem to bottom out. It gets tight but I don't want to overtighten. And ideas? Pull the carb out and take a closer look?
Greg from northern Michigan. Great video ! I firmly believe that "Quality doesn't cost, it pays" . Many lower cost oversea companies believe "If your going to buy shit, make sure it's cheap shit" . Enough said.
Thank you for your no nonsense review its refreshing
There are no chamfers on those ports!! That is likely where the scoring came from. That will probably catch a ring in a port and destroy the top end in a very short period of time. I doubt that saw would get though the one tree with a cylinder like that. I would love to see the ring end gap on that thing, probably doesn't have any, which could also be a cause of the scoring in that cylinder
G444,G466,070 all blue thunders run perfect 3 years so far 18,28,42 inch bars. Cut 10 - 94foot oaks last year. cutting all oak here. New they need to run rich there super tight old school brake in.
I have the holzforma farmertec 660 now for over 2 years, used commercially almost daily, zero issues at all. The issue of the 2 dead ones that talk about, I wonder where they using an incorrect fuel/oil mix? I run mine at 40-1. Perhaps that was an issue. I have read and seen videos of some folk having issues with them, but I have seen many many more videos and read online of folk with my experience, nothing to complain about the saw. I wish I could justify spending the money on a new Stihl as all my climbing saws are Stihl, but the farmertec hasn't failed me yet. My only criticism of my saw is it is very fuel hungry. But then again, it's a brute of a saw cutting big wood. So it's to be expected I guess.
Best chinesium I've seen in a while, thanks for the laughs!
I’m a cheap customer that has all high end equipment these days. I bought a Chinese 660 Clown saw because I was buy curious. Got a big job requiring a big saw that I didn’t want to spend $1700 on. Gonna slap a few oem on it. Honestly I’m very impressed. Recon I got lucky.
I would just look around until you find a quality saw used in good condition. I needed a larger saw to take out several larger trees my old 021 would struggle with. Found an 038 av mag2 72cc in amazing shape for $125 bought a new bar and chain. Filters and lines. Now I have a saw that will last me forever as often as I need something that large
Just looking at the first video you made of this saw when you change the diaphragm on the carburettor yes the needle was in the wrong position but when you reassembled it you didn't put diaphragm underneath the needle in the little V slop so it was still pushing against it which would have made it flood out and hard to start again like I said on the recent video you just made of this machine on the second video you made you wonder how it came out he didn't come out you didn't clip it in
Have a Holzfforma G660 for 5 years now. Just standard carb maintenance, run it dry, and put it up for the season.
On your chainsaw I can't see the paint chips scoring the cylinder but they really don't help, but something got in there, keep looking and have a grate day 😊.
Verne
Farmall kid.
I’m not a mechanic. I was a healthcare provider for almost 40 years. Been to a lot of lectures (continuing education) and I must say that your knowledge base continues to amaze me and sometimes they are far more interesting than medicine. Keep up the good work. Bill
Many thanks. Great overview/review. I've owned a poor quality saw and it was frustrating every time I tried to use it. Bought better saws and it was a whole world of difference.
That's not a clone, that's a pile of parts that resemble a chainsaw. Thanks for the "review" 😎
@skutch Blobaum Likely you, by the number of post you have made? Tell us, are you the distributor or someone from the marketing/sales/manufacturing of this brand?
Richard, he had to be someone from the company doing damage control. LOL! We deleted his comments and blocked him from the channel. Too funny.
I bought one. I paid about $140(ish) after tax and shipping. First time i used it was on a $2500 job. It's the only saw i used in the tree, and a 362 on the ground and found no running issues with it. I could have gotten a lemon tho, lol.
Thanks for the honest evaluation of this product.
I purchased the NEO-TEC 12'' Top Handle Gas Chainsaw 2-Stroke 25.4cc from Amazon. The package had everything included, and I had to adjust a little on the carburetor, but it cut and ran fairly good. Sometimes it would stop going to idle if I did not hit the throttle a little, but it worked good. I manually oil the chain and bar rather than place bar oil in the reservoir.
You're going to have to explain that last line a little... it's not like it has a pump oiler. What are you dunking it in a bucket?
@@mattfleming86 you pour oil on the bar.
@@AAckeltonDDDDYY In the rare case where i've ran out of oil before fuel, I can tell within one cut that the chain is dry. Even on an arborist sized saw like this one that is beyond impractical. Before automatic oilers there were pump oilers. Both exist because chainsaws can generate a MASSIVE amount of friction in the cutting process. I do not see any practical motive here.
It's like saying "I don't use the carburetor I just squirt fuel in with a windex bottle"
"Manually" applying oil is a great way to get not just the bar and chain hot (and excessively worn) but getting the clutch side of the crank hot and destroying the crank seals.
Ok one thing was bad I’ve bought six of these saws and there perfect and I love em
Yep for $75 including shipping I got one of the Chicom 52cc’s and it’s actually a pretty good running and cutting saw. No it’s not as good as my Stihl and Husky saws or even in the same hemisphere but for $75….come on Mam !
@@shannonwhitaker9630,
I have comments above on two other comments. I have a Tornado and it runs and cuts great! Hunnert bucks!
My current favorite saw is a Tanaka (way more than a hunnert bucks)! Love that saw too!
This is a comment for you since I'm subscribed and liked ALL you're videos!!!
No champher on the exhaust port- probably scraped off chrome by the ring and scratched cylinder and piston. Scratches apparent on piston viewed when muffler removed.
I own 2 holzfforma saws and several vintage saws. I'd rather run the holzfforma because parts are available. The vintage saws I own are better quality but parts are not readily available.
Love your morning hair 😁 . You’re the real deal , girl .
That's unfortunate, I was excited to buy one of these, but glad I saw your video first!
I like the scope, looks as though the factory doesn't bother to even chamfer the ports like should be done. Did many dirt bike engines and larger two stroke overhauls and always was careful to chamfer to keep from a ring snag. Thanks for your very informative and well put together vids!
😮 Imagine what the assembly line looks like.😮
😮Great video, I appreciate your fairness and humor.❤
I don't normally comment but must tell you that you impress me alot...yur professional smart and purdy. I agree about them junk saws and thanks for the info mam..
This is the first vid I have seen from you in a long time. My fault? My settings? Nice to see you again. Thank you!
Mine's done beautifully for over two years with regular use. You just have to know how to treat a lady from the get go, and if you do she'll treat you right - it's a fine machine.
You are one sharp mechanic. Love your videos and a special thanks for attaching an import. I have a farmtec and it cuts great. I want to change the carb in the future.
if she was sharp she would have noticed that giant hole in the fuel cap earlier when he was showing it has the older style caps.
@@AAckeltonDDDDYY The beginning of the video she mentioned hole in cap.
We ran a holz 660 clones for 2 years, they was 2 bought as a pair, other one only lasted a year. Both lost compression.
I have a neotec 872 and it’s been a beast. I didn’t think it was going to go this well but I’m a fan! Make sure your buying them from a reputable seller or from neotec themselves. That’s what I did and I put an ngk plug in it, tuned it. And ran. Got some wcs 3point dogs for it and it’s been great for over a year. The new Farm Mac line Neo Tec has out is using some great parts also I’m going to grab a 660 for my mill since I’m using it more now. Anyway! Good luck and there’re not all junk!:)
Chuck,
I wrote a comment about a Tornado Saw I have that has been a great saw, hunnert bucks!
Cut a lot of wood.
I agree I have the updated Neo Tec 872I I’ve had none of the issues I’ve seen in your video I did get it straight from Neo Tec , I also have 2 echos a cs590 and a cs 490 the Neo Tec has been good so far.
@@rickycompton2610,
No Neo Tech but I have a CS490 and a CS590 too! 490 has never been out of the box.
I have aJD E120 does the spindles have zerks on them? I am trying
to find out the lubercation areas for the tractor.
We have yet to see one of those these stellar pieces of quality Chinese workmanship, however, I definitely need to thank you for the heads-up warning !
I'd like to say you get what you pay for, but at $400 bucks you might want to take that same $400 and buy an equal value Stihl, Echo, or Shindaiwa saw, maybe half the size saw, but with proper care, will very likely last you a lifetime !
Thanks again for the heads up Miss C !
The curve tip needle nose pliers are an essential tool for mechanics
Watch out ! A lot of them are made in China !
How did that chainsaw pass inspection at the factory? Apparently they never started it to make sure it ran before shipping it. Yeah, i agree, that thing is for the scrapper!
Yes it is absolutely possible the paint chunks scored the cylinder and piston.
have watched the Chicanic for some time and told my mates about tipping up your motor mower on its front wheels it works a treat ....thank you so much Chickanic from sunny down town Australia!
I just bought a Neo-tec NH 872 (372xp Husqvarna clone) with a 24 Inch bar for 380 bucks on amazon.....i debated a long time before the purchase of this chinese made saw.....on ebay you couldn't hardly find a used 372 xp for under 450 bucks......I will say that the 24inch bar on this saw is much heavier that the 18 inch bar on my 350 husqvarna.....i have used this 372 xp clone only one time and it did work quite well......had i seen your video before making the purchanse i would'nt have bought this neotec knock off.
All the specs ive seen for the gray saws is a 25/1 mix.
You run em at 50 mix with rpms of a oem version, simply, they will die.
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I have one of the classic versions of the 372 husky farmertec/gray saws, and im at 100 tanks or so in 4 years. With minimum issues. 1 Pull string, 1 kill swich and 3 plugs.
After the first 5 gal of 25/1 mix i went to 32/1 and always clear 92.
No issues with bugs when running it ha ha.
Compression is still around 180psi without the base gasket.
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To comply with law i did swap it to a proper, un-modded spark screen muffler to avoid a big ticket.
well i have a ms250 clone from haultz former and i have had it for over 3 years and i have worked the hell out of it and the only things i have had problems with is the clutch and pull start and it run very good it starts 1st or second pull!!
UPDATE: Got my Neotec started and it's running great! It's powerful, strong and really cuts so good!
Again thank you for sharing this video. I have never heard of this brand of saw however I think I will stick with the standards Stihl Husky etc.
If anything, thanks for the warning on Neotec, I was looking at their bars and chains, not any more!
I think to be safe, buy the smaller power equipment from a reputable dealer, be it Stihl, Echo, or Huskavarney. Whatever you prefer. In my experience, I've bought a number of pieces of equipment from dealers, it was test ran, set up and has not been a problem since. And if you do buy from an equipment dealer, be sure to explain to them how often the equipment is used, and they can recommend the right fuel to use with it, and maintenance requirements. These little machines can be very expensive to buy especially if you are running commercial grade, but investing in quality equipment, and the right maintenance and support, they will outlive their aftermarket counterparts.
Thanks for the tip regarding the borescope. Always wanted/needed one, just bought one. Thanks
will using a stronger oil mix eveuntily cause carbin build up and that leading to scoring?
If I am using one of these (or a Stihl) to cut ice holes in a lake where we do not use bar oil, will the oil pump burn out from running the saw without bar oil?
Just saw these on Amazon today. Seemed sketchy. Nice to see this.
I have a ms 311 when I'm cutting about the second or third cut it looks like the bar is smoking. Looks like it is oiling the chain so I'm not sure what to do next. Can you send some good ideas on hiw to fix please
If you buy the 892 buy the kit. If you inspect each part as you build it, file the sharp cylinder ports and tune the carb starting at 1 1/2 turns from seat on both screws(maybe take the carb apart first to have a look) Kinda a fun project for the weekend wussies
Few years ago I bought a new Karcher pressure washer the engine casing was very thin it had a hold in the casing behind the flywheel similar to the chainsaw gas cap
Do you need a different fuel mix for a chainsaw than a backpack blower
I read a lot of comments here that just seem to be whining about cheap saws. Like it is surprising that when you buy a cheap saw, you actually get a cheap saw. Do you expect that a cheap saw should be made of gold? If you don’t want a cheap saw, don’t buy a cheap saw.
I wanted a cheap saw a couple of years ago. Well, actually I wanted a cheap box of parts that I could assemble into a cheap saw. I didn’t need a $2000 saw. I wanted a parts kit that I could enjoy putting together, and maybe use to cut a large tree now and then.
I am very happy with my parts kit.
Love yr videos and the no BS , straight down the line. Never was one to fix small engines ever, but since watching yr videos, have repaired lots of good old brush cutters all my chain saws, except one. Watched a video of yrs the other night on repairing old fuel lines on a Husky the same as I have, tried 1once couldn't wasn't sure on handle to take off and where fuel lines went. Well 2nd attempt about to happen. Thxs and keep the videos coming.
Another GREAT VIDEO, Bre. Tell it like it is. That saw is JUNK!
I appreciate your ethics. It means a lot for sure.
Hello I have a question. Do you ever fix or rebuild Old chainsaws? If so how do you get parts on saws that are from the 70's. I have a Skil 1616 chainsaw , the coil wire pulled out of the coil and it also seems the coil is bad anyway. I have tried searching ebay and the web in general for coils that are for that model but nothing. Is there a way to find a coil made for another saw that will work? Thanks Bre
Best small engine site.
Not at all the best, TARYL FIXES ALL is a billion times better than her!! I've yet to see her bring a 60 year old dead engine back to life..
@@garyalensr Given the challenge I believe Chickanic, gets it done.
@@fedora5926 she does and she definitely good at what she does... But she always just does carb cleans and adjustments and sometimes will it run videos!! I'd like to see more in-depth videos
@@garyalensr Chickanic's videos and know how have saved me a bunch of time and cash that's for sure. I also like the tool recommendations, Will definitely purchase the endoscope used in this video.
Hey Gary! Have you looked through my old videos? I see you're a subscriber, so thank you so much! Although I have only been consistently making TH-cam videos for the last 15 months instead of channels like Taryls (which is awesome) for the last 8 years, I have A LOT of catching up to do making videos for the majority of people who truly "need" them which is just regular homeowners trying to fix their typical stuff. At the same time as I try to make two videos a week, I am still working 40 hours a week at the shop, repairing about 6-7 units a day. Many times I find a customers unit that is a common problem and share it with everyone since I know there are many others who will have the same issue. I always try to throw in something like this 50 year old wacker packer video. th-cam.com/video/fn1SGQRZgbY/w-d-xo.html Or a complete tear down and camshaft replacement like this one. th-cam.com/video/2i54SK_SMPU/w-d-xo.html Or even a complete cylinder and piston replacement like this. th-cam.com/video/PDygoRPKj18/w-d-xo.html At the same time I make videos about information I feel people truly need to save them a bunch of money. Eventually I will run out of these topics and have to find old stuff to restore like Taryl and Mustie, so hopefully you hang along with me for the ride.
I agree with you professionals should get the best equipment, not going to look good if your saw breaks in middle of job. I can believe that the paint could scare cylinder wall, I have done mechanical work in past and with tight tolerance does not take much. I watch guy's at gun range making similar mistakes, before the shooting starts they grab can of spray oil and soak down chamber. I told my friend can you imagine what it is going to do to the chamber as all the unburnt gun powder, dust and dirt gets caught in oil. I told him that chamber is going to be sliding on something similar to course sandpaper, clean gun and light oil before match less chance of malfunction and damage. The same with your saw at end of day clean up and sharpen chain makes next job easier and tools last longer.
Thanks for the review, I’ll stick to my magnesium bodied stihl saws
Crazy I have there 68cc saw love it just a little work to get it running perfect for Oklahoma and I'm not greenhorn my first summer time job was logging I also collect vintage McCulloch saws (best saws ever) I got about 20hrs on my neo cutting hardwood 20+ inch trunks so it may just be a little hit and miss
I have a Stihl. it runs perfect. It is an 034. Had one guy ask me how old it was. I showed him the 'made in west Germany" logo.