NEW "STIHL CLONE" chainsaw, NEOTEC Mechanic Review and Repair. (You won't believe what happened!)

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  • @Chickanic
    @Chickanic  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

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  • @rusosure7
    @rusosure7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    The hole in the gas cap was to prevent a vacuum when all the gas was pouring out through the muffler.

    • @jawdouan4509
      @jawdouan4509 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gas cap problem is better then fuel just run right back out bottom of fuel tank soon you pour fuel in not just that they ignore your warranty return refund and replace 589$ saw i wish i saw her video before i try this saw out i guess my dumb ass they said eligible for refundable and replacement the warranty you get is ignore you

    • @jackmac2217
      @jackmac2217 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That's a speed hole. It makes the saw go faster.

    • @keithrayeski6417
      @keithrayeski6417 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @fostinator69
      @fostinator69 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What saw is the ncs 6200 a copy of?

  • @mikejerrett7354
    @mikejerrett7354 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Wow that saw is poorly made , it might look tough but deep down inside its junk. Good video right there 👍

    • @mickdog2
      @mickdog2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @skutch Blobaum that's what I was thinking.......I was thinking it's a return and resold....

    • @robert9595
      @robert9595 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Someone whos like "heh..my saws orange, people will think its a stihl"

    • @clayramsey019
      @clayramsey019 ปีที่แล้ว

      Holfman clone supposed to be so good and even takes the same parts

  • @gordonbetcher5369
    @gordonbetcher5369 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Geeesh what a junker ,that's the kind you throw off the cliff and watch it disintegrate into a kazzillion peices

  • @bobmcdoggish9659
    @bobmcdoggish9659 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ancient Chinese philosopher once said:
    Buy Communist Chinese Tools = Get Communist Chinese Tools
    Translation:
    Buy Junk = Get Junk

  • @paulmcreynolds1774
    @paulmcreynolds1774 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Great video. Terrific information on this saw. Thanks for the great work.

  • @jmabs5096
    @jmabs5096 2 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    The worst kind of customer is a cheap customer... I educate folks on how if you spend a little bit more, you'll end up saving in the long run. Buy once, cry once.

    • @tomcurran8470
      @tomcurran8470 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Not to be ethnically incorrect, (apologies to all Scots, LOL) but the saying goes that the Scotsman says he is too poor to buy poor quality stuff.

    • @dack4545
      @dack4545 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I try telling my missus this ,she still buys cheap shit ,ya can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

    • @jmabs5096
      @jmabs5096 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@dack4545 atleast you got a cheap date!

    • @covishen
      @covishen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      There is $400 for a one time job vs. $1200 to pay someone or get a name brand saw. Not every one can afford to buy name brand. Some of us have to live in the real world.

    • @joshuajohnson4396
      @joshuajohnson4396 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Minimum wages equals minimum effort so think about what you're buying 1st

  • @patthesoundguy
    @patthesoundguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    There are no chamfers on those ports!! That is likely where the scoring came from. That will probably catch a ring in a port and destroy the top end in a very short period of time. I doubt that saw would get though the one tree with a cylinder like that. I would love to see the ring end gap on that thing, probably doesn't have any, which could also be a cause of the scoring in that cylinder

  • @peteschiavoni
    @peteschiavoni 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I’d rather pay for an Echo or Stihl and have a saw I can use for years rather than something that arrives with one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel

    • @shannonwhitaker9630
      @shannonwhitaker9630 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You people do realize Stihl has a manufacturing plant in China right ?

    • @peteschiavoni
      @peteschiavoni 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@shannonwhitaker9630 yes. But still better quality than the clones

    • @oliver90owner
      @oliver90owner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @skutch Blobaum do you and shannon whittaker have some connection? Seems like you likely do.

    • @peteschiavoni
      @peteschiavoni 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @skutch Blobaum never said it was. Never said it wasnt

    • @peteschiavoni
      @peteschiavoni 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oliver90owner Obviously they share a brain cell

  • @baldeagle242
    @baldeagle242 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Another great video young lady. You are a natural for this stuff! 😁👍

    • @Chickanic
      @Chickanic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you so much 😁

  • @polderesurf
    @polderesurf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    The great thing about your videos is the experience you have seeing equipment run over a period of time . Straight out the box reviews tell you very little . Great stuff keep it up .

  • @gregnoye8158
    @gregnoye8158 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Little hands makes some jobs look so much easier.

  • @GuysPlayingWithTools
    @GuysPlayingWithTools 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why would someone bother painting the INSIDE of the muffler? I get offered stuff for review all the time and I nearly never put out a review since 90% of the stuff they offer isn't something I would want.

  • @bumpkinrocks
    @bumpkinrocks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Neotec seems to have alot of very bad reviews on here from what I've seen.
    Very poor quality apparently, Farmertec get my vote for aftermarket👍

  • @jomama01
    @jomama01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    You gets what you pays for. Our oldest piece of lawn equipment is now 44 years old, and runs fantastically. Our oldest Stihl is now turning 20 years old and keeps on running. Buy the best you can afford - THEN MAINTAIN IT!

    • @schlomoshekelstein908
      @schlomoshekelstein908 ปีที่แล้ว

      everything is made in china now you silly boomer. get over it. if you think chinese metallurgy isn't better than what we were doing 44 years ago I don't know what to tell you lol

    • @williamgrissom1995
      @williamgrissom1995 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well said. 😎👍

    • @gowdsake7103
      @gowdsake7103 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Or buy something for 1/5 th of the cost that will last 5 years

    • @jvmiller1995
      @jvmiller1995 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Buy once cry once!

  • @biggysground
    @biggysground 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    The cylinder scouring is from a sharp edge of the ports which should have had a rounded edge to avoid the rings/cylinder from being lightly damaged during running.

    • @vortexan9804
      @vortexan9804 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Taryl would have found that right away.

    • @conner5611
      @conner5611 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @harmony connie scam bot

    • @scottfirman
      @scottfirman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can see it was never ported properly. What a hunk of trash!

    • @dudekanic
      @dudekanic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The scoring was all the way around the cylinder. The report was that the saw only ran for a few seconds, so I would suspect debris was either in the cylinder from the first or the rings were dirty.

    • @jhawkins4412
      @jhawkins4412 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds like a knowledgeable assessment. I think you are right.

  • @beerdrinker6452
    @beerdrinker6452 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Two weeks ago I researched NEOTECH and after one hour of research I decided that NEOTECH is junk or worse. Buyer beware!

    • @oldmanfred8676
      @oldmanfred8676 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a Tornado chainsaw that I use, it has been a great saw! Cut a lot of wood with it.
      I was so impressed I bought another one, still new in the box, bought another “used” one on EBAY for parts.
      This cheap @$$ed saw runs great! Now watch the next time I try to start it it will fizzle!

  • @johnbrown9003
    @johnbrown9003 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You get what you pay for

  • @462ANIMAL
    @462ANIMAL 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think the cylinder either was damaged from assembly , or excessive fuel.. the paint would’ve been soft you’d think.. hmmm It’s junk

  • @wrstew1272
    @wrstew1272 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No champher on the exhaust port- probably scraped off chrome by the ring and scratched cylinder and piston. Scratches apparent on piston viewed when muffler removed.

  • @s.r.t.8758
    @s.r.t.8758 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If only the big brands made anything worth a crap anymore. I don't see how Echo is still in business. I'm open to any brand these days. I've owned Stihl saws for over 20 years, with my tree service and their quality has progressively gotten worse and the prices are only getting higher.

  • @mrboom4570
    @mrboom4570 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have worked on quite a few farmertec saws. That does not look like a farmertec saw. Are the chineese knocking off a chineese knock off of a stihl saw? The ports look completely unfinished. Suprised it didn't hang a ring on a port. They should be slightly radiused. I bet the black stuff is aluminum grit left over from machining the cylinder and not being cleaned. That thing is junkotec.

    • @rickyflinchum2909
      @rickyflinchum2909 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes the Chinese are knocking off another chinese product. Neotec is not the same as farmertec.

  • @blkmoon33
    @blkmoon33 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    That's not a clone, that's a pile of parts that resemble a chainsaw. Thanks for the "review" 😎

    • @oliver90owner
      @oliver90owner 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @skutch Blobaum Likely you, by the number of post you have made? Tell us, are you the distributor or someone from the marketing/sales/manufacturing of this brand?

    • @Chickanic
      @Chickanic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Richard, he had to be someone from the company doing damage control. LOL! We deleted his comments and blocked him from the channel. Too funny.

  • @michaelpace1075
    @michaelpace1075 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Take them for free. If they are junk, people should know and the company shouldn’t sell them. You would be doing a public service and the maker would and should be exposed.

  • @Gary67242
    @Gary67242 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    wow, I know those saws were junk but even worse than i thought, however recently found your channel and am enjoying it....subscribed...thumbs up !!

  • @randywoodward9707
    @randywoodward9707 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I have a neo tec 892. I did have to adjust the carb out of the box but other than that it's been running every day for 6 months with no problems. As far as clones go it's a pretty good saw. I also have several other stihl saws ms660's , 661's and a 500i

    • @jamestobin4849
      @jamestobin4849 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have a holzfforma and work for the state in forestry id put it up against my work saw any day of the week. I run a 461 at work. G466 at home. Bark box and wcs dogs hi flow intake.

    • @williamwoodward1364
      @williamwoodward1364 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Randy we have the same last name
      And pretty much same saws
      Neotec 892 Stihl 660,039,271
      So fat I've got about 40 hours on the neo just carburator adjustments I run a 24 inch hard-nose bar with on problem

    • @johnrogers3546
      @johnrogers3546 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The product is 5 times less than a Stihl and for a majority of people using chainsaws, they are not commercial logging people and don’t run a big saw everyday. The unit might poop out 5 times faster, but that’s enough to clear my 40 acre property.

    • @bluntman99999
      @bluntman99999 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ya she's full of crap, I have a G888 clone an that saw rips! Way better then OEM.

  • @MrPeter0357
    @MrPeter0357 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am Wathching from South Australia
    I have always runs stihl chainsaws I"ve got 1 chainsaws with 0ne is 30 years old and still run good. I"ve had a good run with Sthl chainsaws I have updated to the StihI 881 Magnum it is alovely saws I do not look other brands.
    Cheers Donald

  • @indydurtdigger2867
    @indydurtdigger2867 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    We had a customer bring in a full on counterfeit MS 660 Magnum a couple weeks ago, serial number 0014. We thought it was a stolen saw at first then got to scrutinizing it closer. The crooks that made it even copied the part numbers on the parts but left the logo off them. It's now sitting on our show and tell rack.

    • @ryangiltner5640
      @ryangiltner5640 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you "sthil" it from the customer lol

    • @indydurtdigger2867
      @indydurtdigger2867 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ryangiltner5640 The boss asked him if they could keep it as a show and tell piece. He gladly volunteered it for that purpose.

  • @lanedexter6303
    @lanedexter6303 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thanks for the great warning video! My “new” saw is a Husky 385XP I bought on half price sale ($400 for an $800 saw) as a demo saw in 2002 (it’s presently the base saw for my Alaskan saw mill). The small saw I still use is a Homelite Super EZ Auto I bought at the same shop in 1974. Buy a good saw, take care of it, and it will last.

    • @BeamerTheFox
      @BeamerTheFox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ive still got one my father had an cut wood to heat his house for 15 years back in the 70s, i replaced the coil once an it still runs like a new saw. in any conditions imaginable lol

    • @philhawley1219
      @philhawley1219 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I bought a 385xp in 2002. It's felled thousands of tons and still runs as good as new. Real long term value for money.

  • @michaelpalumbo6981
    @michaelpalumbo6981 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I’ve had my NS892 for a little more than two weeks, almost every day for about three-four hrs. per day , and I have to say, I’m impressed. Other then a slight adjustment on the H&L after straight out of the box, runs excellent. And yes, it’s a beast. Wore out my shoulder trying to start it until I saw your video on how to start the big saws. Have not had any more sore shoulders since. Keep up the good work in the videos, they always seem to help.

    • @dichodichov6045
      @dichodichov6045 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hahaha I broke my arm too , I thought I'm the only one. Just banging like crazy I'm like wtf this decomp valve it's not working , later on I found out you have to push it 😂😂😂

    • @joeysweet9045
      @joeysweet9045 ปีที่แล้ว

      I figure they are kinda like another clone product they are hit and miss you know like the good, bad and ugly sometimes you get an good one sometimes a bad one you have to change a plug adjust a carburetor or rebuild it and sometimes you get an ugly one that makes them all look bad!

    • @em4703
      @em4703 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nobody says they're not running, performance is pretty much on par with the original. The only issue is how long they last, and how many repairs are needed along the way for that reduced usable life. An OE saw will last 4 times as much while being 4 times more expensive and with less issue along the way.
      Just look up "Belko Wood" on youtube, a professional chainsaw miller from Belarus. He has a beaten up MS 880, bought a Holzfforma 888 about a year and a half ago, and a month or two after that it wall already a hybrid saw from all the crap he had to replace on it. A year after that he was back to using that old MS 880 again which still runs! Remember this guy chainsaw mills many hours, EVERY DAY.

  • @NematHeydary
    @NematHeydary 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The worst kind of customer is the one who doesn’t know how to fix their machines and expects everything to work flawlessly for the life of the machine. For me, I have an Ojenas which is a Stihl 880 clone and it works great. I use it on my Alaskan Sawmill and it’s a beast. The only issues I’ve had are the stud bolts sheering off and the ignition coil not being correctly gapped. I’ve been using it for two years.
    Your tools are only as good as the operator.

  • @markcdeyoung3118
    @markcdeyoung3118 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I bought an 066 Stihl back in '99 the first day it kicked back and the handle smacked into the top cover and busted a big hole in it ... And I had to modify the choke because it was missing fast idle .. (same common problem I have with the Chinese 660's) she's been a good saw ... But just watch your air intake and don't let leaves clog it up it only takes a few seconds for it to get hot enough to transfer metal from the piston to the cylinder.. I had to take mine apart and clean the metal transfer off the cylinder and unstick the rings it had minimal damage basically just a couple of little scratches on the piston .. it's been running fine ever since I used it yesterday still has all of its ponies .. the Blue thunder G660 farmertec saw I've been using for 5 years now and she's been running flawlessly seem like it pretty well on par with the Stihl ... And I just bought a 066 pro carbon fiber edition with Meteor piston cylinder and Caber rings ..and I put a dual Port muffler on it I've only used it about 3 hours but man that thing screams ... I purchased a G888 and had to replace the coil right off the bat it flooded really bad had to modify the carburetor then it ran awesome for about 15 minutes and grenaded the crank bearings ... I went on the Stihl's website to see if they had any problem complaints with their 880 and 088 and indeed some people were complaining about the same problems from their stihls as far as the catastrophic crank bearing issue

  • @christianguenther1276
    @christianguenther1276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have a 12 year old Sthil chainsaw and it still runs just as strong as the day I bought it. Other than some carburetor rebuilds over the years, a new bar and chain, and now using Sthil MotoMix 50:1 fuel, I'll still have it another 12 years🤞. I'd never buy any other brand, and certainly no Chinese knock-off. Spend the extra cash and get a " real" Sthil, you won't be disappointed.

  • @NGMonocrom
    @NGMonocrom 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Don't buy a cheap knock-off of the real thing. I don't know, seems obvious. Hopefully your cheap customer reads this comment.

  • @adamsumner6379
    @adamsumner6379 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Neotec these started popping up after farmertec saws. I have stihl chainsaws but also some farmertec saws just today I put a piston and cylinder in my 460 I've had for about 2 years and ran the snot out of it doing small firewood bundles sales. But it was a kit You hit the nail on the head Quality control from the beginning. Thanks love your videos

  • @mc2whls
    @mc2whls 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another GREAT VIDEO, Bre. Tell it like it is. That saw is JUNK!

  • @tomcurran8470
    @tomcurran8470 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I did look at these, especially the enhanced versions of 660, but I'll stick to Echo, Husky, or Stihl. After years of chainsaw experience, I'm liking Echo the best. I do have a Jonsersed 2255, which is a Husky 455 and is great.

    • @jonyoung6405
      @jonyoung6405 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Im running a Farmertec /Hulzforma G378 Husky clone , pretty nice for the money. My son built a 660 kit, again well worth the savings and no end to aftermarket parts. But if you have $1500 to drop on a saw, Stihl and Husky is for you. I do like to find used ones. Cheers.

    • @mattfleming86
      @mattfleming86 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've got a 620p and a 3510 echo. Selling a ms271 so I can add their 4910 to the stable. Love the echos!

  • @bradleyyounger8499
    @bradleyyounger8499 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would just look around until you find a quality saw used in good condition. I needed a larger saw to take out several larger trees my old 021 would struggle with. Found an 038 av mag2 72cc in amazing shape for $125 bought a new bar and chain. Filters and lines. Now I have a saw that will last me forever as often as I need something that large

  • @rstephe
    @rstephe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Agreed, and thanks for your experienced insight.
    While growing up in Michigan and my father bought a new Stihl 029 back in '85 which we used to cut wood for heat. Just had to crank it up again last week to cut trees after hurricane Ian came through here in FL. After using it all afternoon I realized we have had to change the bar once and have been through some chains but everything else is original . I doubt they make them as durable today but this says a lot to me.

    • @jonyoung6405
      @jonyoung6405 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lots of after market parts for it if it breaks so dont throw it out , fix it.

    • @rickyflinchum2909
      @rickyflinchum2909 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The older stihl saws 025 026 029 036 044 046 066 were all of the highest quality. Stihls today are of high quality just not as good as they use to be. You wouldn't believe how many people buy these aftermarket knock off saws like this 660 knockoff thinking they are getting stihl power and quality for a few hundred dollars then whine about it when it breaks down beyond repair. The only decent quality stihl clones I have seen are the farmertec kit saws that you put together yourself. That's only because most people add genuine stihl parts that are very important like the recoil guts and carburetor and piston rings and oil seals. The farmertec kit saws still ain't a stihl but are pretty decent. I would not buy the holtzforrma or neotec or whatever others that come pre built. But if you want genuine stihl saw, get a stihl saw or whatever piece of outdoor equipment you need. Costs a lot more but like the old saying goes, buy once cry once.

  • @MrHangerone
    @MrHangerone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sorry this saw should have gone back under warranty Neo-tec has warranty, I think your customer has been playing with the saw. The holes in plastic (damage) is from the pull starter handle been let go back to the machine, some people should not own power saws. Down under Australia

  • @dc5723
    @dc5723 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Those vertical scratches are what I see in vehicle engines with 100,000-200,000 miles on them, not 20 seconds. If my Stihl MS180 dies I'm buying another Stihl, definitely not a Neotec or any other chinese copy.

  • @jdisdetermined
    @jdisdetermined 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazon does the free reviews thing too and it completely destroys any value the buyer average rating system has. You might see almost everyone who actully paid for something giving it one and two star reviews.. Then you get to the free sample reviews and nothing but four and five star glowing reviews. What a joke.
    Free product reviews should be an entirely separate category and should not factor into the rating average of confirmed paid buyer reviews. The more low reviews it gets, the more free reviews they add to keep the average up. It's legal corruption. People will sell their integrity to get a free terrible $30 flashlight. It's a real bummer.

  • @TheReal1953
    @TheReal1953 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You're very brave to work on any of those clone saws. Most shops won't touch them and turn them away.....and for good reason. You have to understand that what drives the manufacture of power tools like these are people perpetually looking for bargains & deals. It's all about that...never the quality of the tool. If they were independently wealthy, they'd still buy new junk power & hand tools. Talk to them about buying a pro level chainsaw if they have a lot of work for it and you might as well be speaking Latin. There is no 'value' in a cheap power tool if it's always on the precipice of failure or fails regularly. And yet, here we are.........

  • @pensive_
    @pensive_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Then go buy a comparable STIHL and pay about 5 X more. These caps are available as well as all the other plastic covers for next to nothing.
    My Neotec works like a charm. Better than my Husqvarna.
    You are just complaining about an isolated issue.
    All products have issues.

  • @dougreid2351
    @dougreid2351 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We say "Whiskey Tango Fox Trot, Oscar" on the radio becaause we can't say WTF when we need to say "WTF?"
    COPY?
    DOUout

  • @joshblick
    @joshblick ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bought one a couple months ago. The neotech 92v, it has the extra handle on the right side. Junk. Started falling apart within a few minutes literally. I still don't have my money back. And yes it is the same company as the Hozfarmer or whatever they call themselves.

  • @javman6022
    @javman6022 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    People need to stop buying cheap Chinese junk. Support quality manufactures.

  • @tjohnson9051
    @tjohnson9051 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I think some of the scratches in the bore are from the port not being de-burred, the edges look mighty rough. Plug the hole in the cap, gas it up, tape the throttle wide open, set it out in the driveway and let it run wide open till it scatters (for entertainment). Throw the aluminum in the scrap barrel. 💣💥

    • @kenbrown2808
      @kenbrown2808 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      *chinesium

    • @robert9595
      @robert9595 ปีที่แล้ว

      Knowing china its probably lead.

  • @jamestboehm6450
    @jamestboehm6450 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Buy Chinese crap get Chinese crap. Buy a Stihl and get a better piece of crap, darn sure aren't made like older pieces of equipment. I've got one from the early 70s and one from the mid 80s. Both have served me very well over the yrs.

  • @frozenfirestix
    @frozenfirestix 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It’s a clone as in it won’t start! Not hating on Stihl, well actually yea I am. They’re great once they’re running, but it’s not worth the inconsistency they’re known for. Can’t imagine why someone would even think about buying a clone 🙄

  • @andrewschris7
    @andrewschris7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I own 2 holzfforma saws and several vintage saws. I'd rather run the holzfforma because parts are available. The vintage saws I own are better quality but parts are not readily available.

  • @wingdwolf56
    @wingdwolf56 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “Clone” to me means exact duplicate. These are knock offs. Junk. Buy the real thing! Ask me how I know!!!

  • @DerMeister821
    @DerMeister821 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    People need to quit encouraging this 'race to bottom' for yet more equipment. There's several established brands with great track records and 'emerging market' knockoffs aren't needed.

  • @Michagan_outdoorsman_James
    @Michagan_outdoorsman_James 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    its got a hole straight through it, look i can see you 😂😂 that had me rolling. been wanting to say this for a very long time, those saws are junk! theirs a reason a pro series saw from sthil is or any manufacture cost a premium. their well built and built to last. hope u guys have a great weekend over there

  • @dylanowens3173
    @dylanowens3173 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you can't afford new don't buy Chinese, Pakistan, Turkish etc knockoffs just buy used.

  • @keithaustin2917
    @keithaustin2917 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just looking at the first video you made of this saw when you change the diaphragm on the carburettor yes the needle was in the wrong position but when you reassembled it you didn't put diaphragm underneath the needle in the little V slop so it was still pushing against it which would have made it flood out and hard to start again like I said on the recent video you just made of this machine on the second video you made you wonder how it came out he didn't come out you didn't clip it in

  • @almclean4835
    @almclean4835 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    100% junk. If folk can’t afford a new decent saw buy a secondhand one, leave the copies on the shop shelf

  • @Michael_Miller508
    @Michael_Miller508 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If I buy something and breaks in 20 seconds. I’m not going to repair shop. I’m going to return it asap

  • @jamesdickson7510
    @jamesdickson7510 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How did that chainsaw pass inspection at the factory? Apparently they never started it to make sure it ran before shipping it. Yeah, i agree, that thing is for the scrapper!

  • @gibsonguy5240
    @gibsonguy5240 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    UPDATE: Got my Neotec started and it's running great! It's powerful, strong and really cuts so good!

  • @TheDanno81
    @TheDanno81 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think to be safe, buy the smaller power equipment from a reputable dealer, be it Stihl, Echo, or Huskavarney. Whatever you prefer. In my experience, I've bought a number of pieces of equipment from dealers, it was test ran, set up and has not been a problem since. And if you do buy from an equipment dealer, be sure to explain to them how often the equipment is used, and they can recommend the right fuel to use with it, and maintenance requirements. These little machines can be very expensive to buy especially if you are running commercial grade, but investing in quality equipment, and the right maintenance and support, they will outlive their aftermarket counterparts.

  • @TheWhitetailrancher
    @TheWhitetailrancher ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To me, it is counterintuitive that the "black chunks" would not be drawn into the exhaust port as the air flow does not travel in that direction. If it was a four stroke there could be an extremely slight chance this could happen in the "overlap" of the valves immediately prior to the compression stroke. The scoring appears to me to be cause by improper assembly in the factory. It would seem to me that it was assembled without any assembly lube causing immediate scoring upon assembly. if it has been lubed there is no possible way that i cn think of that there would possibly be ANY scoring of that nature at all. well, i guess it is possible that there was some "flashing" or some kind of burr on the piston itself. But that is so very unlikely that the piston still had any "flashing" remaining after the other "machining" necessary in preparation of the piston prior to assembly. But what he heck do I know.....that would add up to be NOTHING! Laughs

  • @haneyoakie14
    @haneyoakie14 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    $389? I might give $38.90 for it. $150 rebuilt Poulan would be a better choice.

  • @johnhoffpauir743
    @johnhoffpauir743 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Assembly on Friday at 5 or Monday morning after a wild weekend.🤦‍♂️

  • @billhauck7872
    @billhauck7872 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You are one sharp mechanic. Love your videos and a special thanks for attaching an import. I have a farmtec and it cuts great. I want to change the carb in the future.

    • @AAckeltonDDDDYY
      @AAckeltonDDDDYY ปีที่แล้ว

      if she was sharp she would have noticed that giant hole in the fuel cap earlier when he was showing it has the older style caps.

    • @timfunk5084
      @timfunk5084 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AAckeltonDDDDYY The beginning of the video she mentioned hole in cap.

  • @tomr2007
    @tomr2007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The aftermarket carbs on those cloned saws are notoriously bad. Also the cylinders are not well polished and machined so its possible the rings caught a rough edge on one of the ports and dislodged some debris. The rings could be cheaply made as well. Scoring on the exhaust side is cause for concern. No telling how long the saw will last.

  • @jetttskiman
    @jetttskiman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Some little 6 year old in the factory was in to big of hurry when she put that carb together at the end of her 12 hour shift.

  • @patrickpk6299
    @patrickpk6299 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the gas caps are interchangeable with a stihl. She didn't even run it...waste of time

  • @heavysnow8616
    @heavysnow8616 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great job again Bre. Unfortunately for the customer, the saw isn’t good quality. My advice is to stick to the German or Swedish made saws. I get it, money is hard to come by.
    I have a 562 here, needs a cylinder and piston. Improper oil mix. 😕 Customers son made a boo- boo. Looking good Bre!

    • @kennethkarlsson6796
      @kennethkarlsson6796 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks.woldnonot bougt it anyway.
      Nice video and thank you.

  • @johnclarke6647
    @johnclarke6647 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That’s why I keep a tube of JB Weld on my desk. I am constantly finding places to use it. It is fuel resistant and can be shaped to repair almost anything.I used it recently to repair the clasp on my Troy built’s air filter cover, which had been broken by its former owner. It may not be pretty but it works and is a lot cheaper than buying a new air filter cover.

    • @eathans_small_engines8665
      @eathans_small_engines8665 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Could it work to repair stripped threads in a chainsaw body for a carb?

    • @oldmanfred8676
      @oldmanfred8676 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      John,
      I thought the same thing, or epoxy? Put some plastic on the inside and fill the hole?

    • @gillgetter3004
      @gillgetter3004 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes I think I’d use it for that fix. I’ve used it on marine gas tanks with success, fuel didn’t efffect it👍

    • @johnclarke6647
      @johnclarke6647 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@eathans_small_engines8665 I have used it to repair stripped threads I plastic on chainsaws. I clean the hole with break cleaner and blow it out with air. I take a toothpick and put it on the stripped threads. I put grease on a new bolt and screw it in loosely into the hole. Let it dry in a warm place for an hour and take the bolt out. The next day I screw it into the hole gingerly. The only other choice is putting a heli-coil in the hole. My way will work for screws that don’t have a lot of torque on them. If the screw into metal or have a lot of torque on them I would use a heli-coil.

    • @eathans_small_engines8665
      @eathans_small_engines8665 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnclarke6647 I ended up using my epoxy becuase I already had it! It is on a carb bolt on my 32cc mcCulloch saw

  • @richardflagg3084
    @richardflagg3084 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Stihl FS screw type gas caps will fit on the 660 and their clones. I did a build on one. Lots of things are marginally adequate on these saws. I had some used 660 parts and actually made it reliable. If you aren't mechanically inclined you should not purchase one of these knock offs. Just my.02

  • @randallcarver6950
    @randallcarver6950 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Maybe that hole in the gas cap was to help with venting 😂.

    • @haneyoakie14
      @haneyoakie14 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It would certainly vent well!! 😂😂😂

    • @dubmob151
      @dubmob151 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      it vent vell, yes?

  • @03redrubi
    @03redrubi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don't tell me, china?! Don't buy junk. You can always rent a chainsaw, from equipment suppliers, if need be. Thanks again ma'am!

  • @darcyedward6325
    @darcyedward6325 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The problem is she’s not really got a clue unfortunately

  • @dales095
    @dales095 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello I have a question. Do you ever fix or rebuild Old chainsaws? If so how do you get parts on saws that are from the 70's. I have a Skil 1616 chainsaw , the coil wire pulled out of the coil and it also seems the coil is bad anyway. I have tried searching ebay and the web in general for coils that are for that model but nothing. Is there a way to find a coil made for another saw that will work? Thanks Bre

  • @byronhudson799
    @byronhudson799 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Cheap is expensive! I am a tool repair technician at Home Depot and I regularly steer customers away from Ryobi products. Some would say we are supposed to stand behind the brands we sell but I choose to stand behind my customers...I sleep well at night lol. Love your videos. I always learn something from you.

    • @alexmills1329
      @alexmills1329 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ryobi isn’t a bad brand, and they are actually a company under tti like Milwaukee so you can trust them a lot more than this hunk of junk. But I do agree, buy more capability than you think you need and you will most likely find a use for it anyway, or at worst be working your equipment way less hard than redlining cheap stuff all day.

    • @roberts735
      @roberts735 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love my ryobi tools. Use makita at work, yea they are nice but not worth the money at home

  • @ericwinton2431
    @ericwinton2431 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Again thank you for sharing this video. I have never heard of this brand of saw however I think I will stick with the standards Stihl Husky etc.

  • @richardcranium5839
    @richardcranium5839 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    and here i thought poulan was junk..........

  • @ChrisComp
    @ChrisComp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That damage is not from the recoil slapping it. It all lines up with the gas cap busted. Either shipping damage or the owner did it him self. And I agree that saw has never been started. I don't think it would have. It may fired once

  • @noyopacific
    @noyopacific 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Thanks for the video Bre. I have a story for the "buy once, cry once" & "you get what you pay for" crowd. A friend was removing old carpet from a pontoon boat deck. I offered her my HFT oscillating multi-tool with a flat blade to see if it worked. It turned out to be the best thing she had for cutting the glued down carpet but it still took hours of work. She was (needlessly) concerned about wrecking my tool so paid $$$ for a top brand. The expensive tool died before the job was done and she finished with the cheap HFT tool. Paying a high price is no guarantee you'll get better value.

    • @diavalus
      @diavalus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      With a high reputable brand, you might have a bad luck with one tool out of 20. With a cheap one (like the one in the video), you will probably run into issues constantly. That's the main difference. Now, HFT are better quality than this chainsaw clone and will probably run for a decent amount of time.

  • @papascruffy
    @papascruffy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You're amazing, great video!

  • @daver5960
    @daver5960 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I like the scope, looks as though the factory doesn't bother to even chamfer the ports like should be done. Did many dirt bike engines and larger two stroke overhauls and always was careful to chamfer to keep from a ring snag. Thanks for your very informative and well put together vids!

    • @brittweir8844
      @brittweir8844 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      😮 Imagine what the assembly line looks like.😮

  • @jimmyowen3977
    @jimmyowen3977 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It was several months ago that you told about to beware of the premixed gas. For the first time my husqvarna weed eater would not start. I went and bought a gallon can, 2 stroke oil and a gallon of gas. After emptying out the gas from the tank and refilling with the new gas it runs now. My son was trying to get me to put it in the shop but I took your advice and did it myself. It runs now. Thanks

  • @martinmicheal4595
    @martinmicheal4595 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ok one thing was bad I’ve bought six of these saws and there perfect and I love em

    • @shannonwhitaker9630
      @shannonwhitaker9630 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep for $75 including shipping I got one of the Chicom 52cc’s and it’s actually a pretty good running and cutting saw. No it’s not as good as my Stihl and Husky saws or even in the same hemisphere but for $75….come on Mam !

    • @oldmanfred8676
      @oldmanfred8676 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shannonwhitaker9630,
      I have comments above on two other comments. I have a Tornado and it runs and cuts great! Hunnert bucks!
      My current favorite saw is a Tanaka (way more than a hunnert bucks)! Love that saw too!

  • @mikejesters5046
    @mikejesters5046 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Before tearing the carburetor down pressure test first.

  • @mitch8831
    @mitch8831 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love your videos, very thorough.
    FYI - cross hatching, not thatching.

  • @scottford8736
    @scottford8736 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the heads up on that someone just told me about those and I was going to look into it you saved me the disappointment

  • @barrylowe7181
    @barrylowe7181 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi mate ,i have a neotec 070 i have been using for slabing for over 12 months and hasn't missed a beat so for

    • @terryblack1
      @terryblack1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm going on month 6 of quite a bit of milling with my Neo Tec 8105/070, only thing so far is broken clutch spring, probably from the saw dust with the saw constantly running on its side.

  • @jamesbaldwin2696
    @jamesbaldwin2696 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yes it is absolutely possible the paint chunks scored the cylinder and piston.

  • @killer2600
    @killer2600 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When will people learn, you get what you pay for. We all sit around and call it junk or chinese junk but it's what the buyer was willing to pay for and the manufacturer obliged. If you want quality you don't buy the cheapest one you can find on the planet. It works the opposite way too, if you buy the cheapest you can find don't expect it to be on par or better quality of any of the more expensive ones.
    P.S. the chinese don't make junk, they make products to a price point. If you want a $1000 iphone they'll make it. If you want a crappy $39 android phone they'll make that too. They'll make whatever you want to buy.

  • @7eis
    @7eis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They try to inspire confidence by having it look less knock-off ish by having them cast in different colors. They offer a couple 'upgrades' that make the saw cost the same as a genuine oem product (modern equivalent).
    Some of the knock-off sellers will drop in oem seals and other small bits that are known to fail. I wouldn't bother either way.

  • @jeffwilliams312
    @jeffwilliams312 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why didn't the customer just get another new saw instead of paying to find out what is wrong with it makes no sence

    • @terryblack1
      @terryblack1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      yep, Neo Tec has excellent customer service.

  • @cedarhill3816
    @cedarhill3816 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the holzforma farmertec 660 now for over 2 years, used commercially almost daily, zero issues at all. The issue of the 2 dead ones that talk about, I wonder where they using an incorrect fuel/oil mix? I run mine at 40-1. Perhaps that was an issue. I have read and seen videos of some folk having issues with them, but I have seen many many more videos and read online of folk with my experience, nothing to complain about the saw. I wish I could justify spending the money on a new Stihl as all my climbing saws are Stihl, but the farmertec hasn't failed me yet. My only criticism of my saw is it is very fuel hungry. But then again, it's a brute of a saw cutting big wood. So it's to be expected I guess.

  • @temujinkhan6326
    @temujinkhan6326 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought the NeoTech 872 after I got screwed by a Stihl dealership putting unmixed fuel on a brand-new Stihl that burned on the first tree I was cutting. Anyway, after a few jobs it is still running well. So far, I have billed $5600 for work done with this saw. I have had it for 2 months now. One of the trees had a diameter of 42 inches. I don't know why that was junk but mine still looks new with no cracks or dents. When I bought mine I didnt realize there was a upgraded one for a few dollars more which I should have bought but like I said I did not know

  • @craigjohnson3603
    @craigjohnson3603 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow super junk! I thought I would never see anything worse than a Poulan wild thing but I was wrong! I would tell the cheap skates buy one if you must, cut a 2" tree instead of bringing it to me throw it away! New low point for china mfg. Good video Bree.

    • @JessicaSimonson1976
      @JessicaSimonson1976 ปีที่แล้ว

      Poulan Pro is Husqvarna Brand Group, as is Craftsman, Redmax, Zenoah, Jonsered, McCulloch......just some in site.

  • @oceanheadted
    @oceanheadted 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There is Tinman video of a repair on an old Stihl that blew up (this was a 30 y/o saw), his diagnosis was that there were flakes of the plastic coating on the inside of the crank case had messed up the cylinder/piston, so maybe the paint chunks could do the same.

    • @jeremyhastings8413
      @jeremyhastings8413 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was just going to say that too love his channel

  • @wallebo
    @wallebo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I appreciate your ethics. It means a lot for sure.

  • @charlespuckett6207
    @charlespuckett6207 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sounds like junk to me.

  • @Lorddarthvader1701
    @Lorddarthvader1701 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think your right, If anyone buys this thing, go through it bigtime. Via your video on this sandblast that muffler. wow

  • @charlesashlock6025
    @charlesashlock6025 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good morning hope you are doing well