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@@The_Infamous_BoogymanTrue, but it was also quite obvious that there were just some things Fox couldn't address, like Wade's admiration for Captain America and the Avengers. And with the very premise of the film, a lot of that aspects of admiration was also directed towards Logan (even if he does go so far as to desecrate his corpse).
The car scene between Logan and Wade in particular was amazing for this. Nevermind the fact that the fight was fucking insane, but just the dialogue and Hugh's performance. Also love the fact that they didn't have Wade take his mask off, just held on his speechless expression for a bit. Their dynamic was sooo well done, both the comedy and bits of drama & bonding.
I think the insecurity was ALWAYS there, sometimes on the surface and sometimes subtextually. In the first movie, we hear about his childhood. We see how many times he cannot stop fucking up, even when it's detrimental to him. We see how stubborn he is about teaming up with anybody. And the thing about his appearance in the first movie wasn't just a blurb. It's a major turning point in the story. And it's also a representation of his self-esteem. The FACT that he thinks Vanessa won't be able to get past his appearance is just another way of saying "maybe she thought my good looks were the only thing she liked about me". And it isn't just something that nags him throughout the movie either. He LEAVES her because of it. So yeah. Saying "Deadpool's insecurity isn't really presented" is woefully disingenuous. I'd even argue that Wolverine takes the place of Captain America in the first movie. It's not just a nod and a wink to the camera. He has a kind of reverence for the guy.
Deadpool and Wolverine actually fixed a lot of your complaints. Specially him wanting to be a hero but thinking that he’s not until he actually becomes one saving the multiverse, also it also shows him showing his respect to Captain America
A lot of people forget that Deadpool is supposed to be insane, not just quirky or goofy or capable of breaking the fourth wall, but incredibly mentally ill.
@@Yvng_ded what are you yapping about, people absolutely love media that covers the topic of mental illness. Nobody gets canceled, that's not a thing. People face accountability for their action, but nobody has ever been "canceled" before. At most, they get yelled at online and then go back to making millions in the same day.
@@KOOK_78 it might be because Deadpool's mental state isn't always treated seriously, many times it's for comedic effect. Still though, I wish it was used more.
@@matti.8465 I totally agree that nobody really talks about Deadpool as a mentally ill character, I'm just saying I disagree with that other guy acting like people wouldn't want an exploration of Deadpool as a mentally ill man
I think this version of Deadpool is very much like the Maguire Spider-Man, which is to say unfaithful, but in a way that condenses the journey of the character for the sake of run-time. The Spider-Man of the Maguire films was the fully developed version of the character that the modern audience was familiar with as the pure essence of the character. It's arguably true that the journey of the comic book version made that essence more meaningful, because we see just how much he's grown, but it would take a dozen movies to see that journey and the point is to start right away with someone the audience will like. As someone whose main exposure to Deadpool before the movie (aside from a collection of cameos) was the 2013 Deadpool game, I saw him as a morally dubious D-lister who frequently bothered the X-Men. And yeah, they nailed that. I think there's a reason why the video game adaptation was so close in characterization to the movie, and why fans seem to like the both of them so much. This is the character's essence, distilled down to a digestible size. I think the original Spider-Man trilogy was one of the best adapted superhero series and I don't care that it's not faithful to the comics. And that's how I feel about Deadpool too. If the writers know what they're doing, then vibes are all that matter.
@@LUKAS_956he dident compare it he was giving a opinion on somebody who watched the movies not the comics , if you followed comics to a T then would just drag and not work for the mass audiences
I didn't know how fans felt about that one, it's one of the only Deadpool runs I've read and I enjoyed it a lot. Tony Moore's art is amazing, my favorite look for DP. The guy who took over after Tony (Mike something? ) was a lot simpler but it fit the story well.
I try not to put too much emotional investment into the character evolution of Earth 616 comic characters. A prime example is Otto Octavius. When Otto takes over Spider-Man’s body Peter tries and fails to get it back while stuck in Otto’s dying body. He dies but he manages to give Otto his memories, which isn’t enough for Otto to give the body back and accept death, but it is enough for him to legitimately try and be a Superhero, with mixed results. Eventually he realises he’s outmatched against Norman Osborn and willingly gives the body back to Peter in a selfless act of sacrifice. Eventually in true 616 fashion he comes back; not as Doctor Octupus but he’s able to inhabit a clone made from both Peter and his Original body, moves to the West Coast and becomes their Spider-Man, also with mixed results but a great look at Otto’s character development…until he goes up against an alternate version of Osborn with Spider powers that he can’t beat. This time he ends up making a deal with Mephisto and getting his original body back, losing Peter’s memories but gaining the ability to outwit Osborn, but undoing most of his character development as he walks away from the life and friends he’d made. Then at the end of the recent third Superior Spider-Man run he loses ALL of his memories related to everything I just said, finally reverting him back to square one.
Weirdly enough out of all the character development regressions we've had throughout 616 this is one that stung particularly bad as I read it. Maybe because it finally took seriously the internal world of a character I thought they'd never touch with any depth? In any case I definitely agree with your sentiment, Marvel and DC comics benefit greatly from being read as modern folk tales that are continually reinterpreted and can't be trusted to be internally consistent for more than a few years at a time.
Damn, that's a shame. Marvel, in general, always felt like a universe that moved on in small ways. Like Peter hasn't really been the angst teenager for a while - that's Miles now. The world slowly changes and that was nice. So to have a character be reset like that sucks. I don't think many of Marvel's character resets ever went over well. I mean, sure, Ock becoming a good guy removes his role as a classic super-villain... byut that's okay! It's a fictional world - we can make new characters! It would also mean new kinda of stories. Ock and Peter teaming up and showing off their different takes on Spider-man would be really interesting. The continual development of their relationship. Ock's relationship with other super villains. And so on.
@PhotonBeast Unfortunately, editorial at Marvel seems hellbent on making sure that Peter's world never evolves beyond the status quo that was set during the 70s. Biggest example being the removal of his marriage. Peter can't ever be in a long-term relationship cause it makes him look old and unrelatable or whatever stupid shit they come up with.
I agree with your thesis. There's this constant demand that a comics character adapt The Comics Version that doesn't understand that there isn't one singular Comics Version. You have to take what you think is the essence of the character from all their history, and in the process of doing that you just create one more version, with some essential traits and some new qualities, that is then part of what the next person to use the character gets to draw from. But now you have comics writers treating the movie version as The Version of the character, and anything not included in that version is secondary apocrypha that gets cut away. I also think it's sad that Marvel has few to no actual antiheroes, like your on-a-downswing Deadpool periods. Troubled heroes, sure. Lethal and sadistic heroes, definitely. But actual more-harm-than-good Problem Causers? John Walker and the Scarlet Witch is all I can come up with.
There's also the aspect of not wanting to make the films a misery fest. Not only does that wear on the audience after a while, but it can really get inside the actor's head and sour them on the role forever.
Not to mention you can only fit so much about one character in a movie and it still makes sense with the main plot. Some things just aren’t necessary. It’s a little bit nit-picky to me.
The reason for fox movie deadpool only highlighting select amounts of things and not have all the fluctuations in his character is the industry itself. You never know if they'll make another movie with this character or have him ever show up again, so the stories need to have an ending that can be the end of the whole story. If he gets put into the mcu, then he can go on a multi movie character arc that takes 4 years worth of appearances to finish.
100% Ragnarok is where the franchise dies for hulk fans, Logan skips hillbilly monster hulk, and endgame has hulk (where in the comics he basically solos the avengers, fantastic 4 and the X-Men) he gets solod by Thanos so hard he's reduced to a beaten puppy never to be seen again.
@@joecutts3971 Hulk getting beaten by Iron Man is just insanity. Tony loses every single time in the comics. Also Carol no-selling Thanos’ headbutt? Smart Hulk no-sold Carol in the comics and one-shotted her. She admitted her and gamma flight couldn’t beat Immortal Hulk and later Hulk fought her and the entire Avengers.
i adore deadpool and the kelly run was like, formative for me in a way. as soon as you started talking about it i was like, "aw god we're gonna have to talk about typhoid mary". i don't remember how old i was when i first read it, but i don't think age would have made that any less disturbing. well written, but that's why it was so disturbing. and i love the term oscillation here. it's the best way to condense deadpool's character in a way that makes sense. that up and down, back and forth IS his character. his story is about that push and pull and thats why i love it. it feels so true to life, as fantastic as the comics may be.
You forgot to mention the raspy voice. Not only was it accurate but it was more than an aspect, it was the reason why his speech bubbles are yellow. Not only that but it played a key part in Ellie remembering Wade just by hearing a raspy voice in a touching scene where she hasn’t seen him in awhile. Also forgetting how they character assassinated Weasel. Movie Weasel was antithetical to his character. And forgot to mention Slayback and Garrison Kane.
@@darksaint0124 a youtuber not doing their due dilligence with proper research and chasing trends!? inconcieavable! whats next? something about the us elections? couldnt be.
I've not delved into Deadpool comics; Specifically, I didn't feel particularly drawn to what looked like (even before the movies) to be Deadpool's brand of humour, and this video manages to argue for a level of depth in Deadpool's character i had never previously even considered. On a very different note, are you planning on doing a video on the Acolyte, now that the full season is out and all? I desperately need to see someone sane talking about it in public. Pillar you're my only hope.
0:32 whoa, I need that Rian Johnson video. Brick is so wonderful. Just a full noir in a high school. 21:46 ALSO, it's worth mentioning that at one point, Deadpool/Wade describes his new look as "like Ryan Reynolds fucked a poodle", which really made casting easy.
Why do I feel like they used Deadpool's dynamic with Spider-Man as a basis when it comes to his relationship with Wolverine in the film? I haven't watched it yet, but from what I've seen, it's the same kind of one-sided bromance with Wade acting like he has a crush.
It’s somewhat a result of the general way that Wade’s pansexuality has been handled in the comics, as in it’s a lot of jokes about him being attracted to other men and the general homoeroticism of the genre, which makes it a bunch of queer-baiting bs. The one time it wasn’t a joke was with that non-binary Vietnamese assassin Valentine Vuong, a character created by non-binary Asian American comic writer Alyssa Wong, who despite the lies told by ComicsGate weirdos didn’t ruin Iron Fist when they helped to introduce an actual Asian holder of the title, didn’t cheer when Stan Lee died, and isn’t a bad writer or creator for making non-binary East Asian characters for both DC and Marvel, moving back to the point of Valentine being the first time it wasn’t a gay joke or queer bait, the pair’s relationship is fine at the end of Alyssa’s run, only for Marvel Editorial and Alyssa’s replacement to immediately terminate the relationship off-panel, (but at least they didn’t try to pretend Valentine never existed.) It’s annoyingly obvious they just want to continue making Spideypool jokes, CablePool jokes, and WolverinePool jokes, thus the constant queer baiting of Deadpool resumes with its typical vaguely homophobic undertone, Spideypool, CablePool and WolverinePool is just typical of Marvel
@@MCouldhavebeen-lu4jx3bt4pyour so right cuz I feel like they pussy out of exploring his gender because his fans are cishet men that find his meta humor funny
@@MCouldhavebeen-lu4jx3bt4pIt's not in the slightest homophobic the comics and Hollywood celebrate homosexuality, it's more so self depreciating humor.
I totally agree, kinda a spoiler, Deadpool and Wolverine was a nice goodbye to Fox Marvel and I am really excited to see new versions of these characters. I am way more excited to see a new version of Wolverine than 90 year old Hugh Jackman
@@vergilcold1167 Yeah I was surprised by that. I figured (no major spoilers) part way through the movie that this was their way of bringing the Fox characters into the MCU. But they didn't go that direction, and idk what they plan to do with them now. Like, was I the only one that figured the TVA stuff was their way of bringing Deadpool into Marvel's universe?
My guess is that they realized that having him as background radiation would be a bit much, so this is less them dragging the two directly into the literal universe, and more establishing they're safe on the bench, ready to be called in when needed rather than being put on the field or kicked off the team. Because yeah they're still in their own universe, but now the TVA has a pair of nigh unkillable murderhobos to call on if they see timelines in need of an extra but of help.
We're just gonna re enact OSP's "What is an Anti-Hero?" Video at this rate. @@CaptainEffort Guys, the whole point is that Anti heroes are vague and only defined by the society who reads them. Strict definitions would make individual heroes be put into boxes where they don't feel like they belong.
He said villainy not anti hero. Villainy is being spiteful, attacking others especially heroes due to insecurities that he is unable to come into terms with.
I honestly think movie deadpool is better in a lot of aspects. I love deadpool and read all the comics but the take ryan did was really good. He was goofy and over the top yet serious when he needed to be, which the comics deadpool is like that in are usually the best. He grounded the character without losing its identity
If you like that aspect, read the Duggan/Posehn run. Like the video says, The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly shows him in his darkest hour and humanizes him in a genuinely heart wrenching way while still keeping him Deadpool/Wade.
This is going to sound weird but I was thinking about the phrase "much to their chagrin" earlier today. So hearing you use it in this video put a smile on my face :)
Deadpool 3 spoiler warning You've been warned Was Deadpool really sincere about his respect to Captain with the salute at the TVA, and when he freaked out about seeing Chris Evans, which he thought was Cap, in the movie, and was it a reference to Steve being a idol for Wade in the comics as you talked about in this video?
It feels almost like "Deadpool and Wolverine" was created in response to this video-it touches on so many of the more fundamental themes with him. He's grown from being just "Fox Deadpool" to being _Deadpool._ He's changed, become a better person, we see more dimensions to him. Heck, even the fourth wall breaks are done in a much better fashion; they're less "OMG random" and more... I dunno. Having Wolverine to play off of was exactly what the character needed.
I think you're right about iteration and superheroes. It's nice to see new versions of them. In film, Batman occurred to me when you mentioned the idea. Do we want Christopher Nolan's Dark Knight or Joel Schumacher's rubber daddy? Both! Nolan's films had a lot of interesting internal conflict but Schumacher gave us a Batman who genuinely wanted the role and that was interesting in a whole different way (and he managed to get a rubber bar Batman costume with nipples on approved for mainstream film, which is quite impressive).
I read alot of the Deadpool comics prior to the first films release and i really love the darkest aspects of him as a Character. I hate how every hero treats him like complete shit for the most part, but there are some like Cable, Wolverine and even Cap who can see he isnt just a joke. When he is horribld to his friends (especially Blind Al) it can make you really hate him but in the end he has usually done more good than bad.
Correction for 23:16, Ryan never said he was done with Deadpool. In that 2022 interview, he said he was doing "nothing BUT Deadpool for the next 2 years" (2022 - 2024). You got clickbaited a bit there. Anyway, after DP & Wolverine; I think this version really works, and can continue to work if DP gets to interact with more of the Marvel universe down the line. His dynamic with Logan, while hilarious and enjoyable to watch, is also genuinely sweet and you can feel a reverence grow between them as the movie goes on. I don't think we'll see a lot of the oscillation you talked about going forward, but I feel like there's an open door for Wade to have really interesting interactions with a lot of the cast. It's just a shame he won't get to meet the OG Steve from pre-Endgame. Would've loved to see that meeting.
Deadpool 2’s going after a dangerous young mutant is right out of Remender’s X-force run. A team where Wade is the heart, soul, and conscious. Absolutely one of the best runs for the character.
It's funny people don't like Daniel Way's run for it's memey aspects because his third trade "x marks the spot" is my go to example for the more emotional, conflicting, and intelligent side of deadpool. It's the run I compared the movies too and also felt like the movies fell short in the ways described in this video.
I'd like to see the more bad side of Deadpool, he was an assassin trying to kill X-Force in the 90s, he fought Wolverine a lot as another Sabertooth-like nemesis. The first movie hints he was a hired gun before getting his powers, but the films have him fight along C-tier X-Men only he isn't as GoodyTwoShoes as Callosus. Same with Venom, he also began as a Spiderman villain, but he's instantly Lethal Protector in the newer films, in a way; Spiderman 3 got Venom more right.
I really like the idea of Deadpool as a palimpsest in this and I think it's a really good way to look at Superhero comics in general. I know a lot of people can fixate on having one pure version of characters but I think the nature of comic characters is to be multifaceted multifaceted and different depending on the story they're in. I remember Gwenpool had a nice discussion of this idea with its treatment of Batroc the Leaper and it's awareness of how that version of Batroc was different to other versions. On another note, it's just really cool seeing you directly discuss comics. I know you've covered them before for videos like Superman isn't Jesus but it's cool to see a video with such a large focus on a character's comics and I hope you do more of it in the future
I'd argue it was less that Daniel Way made Deadpool break into the mainstream and more that mainstream culture had finally caught up to Deadpool. In the late 90s DP was a little ahead of his time. 4th wall breaking, profoundly weird content was nothing new to Marvel and DC (Lobo, Howard the Duck, Animal Man, Spider-Ham, Byrne She-Hulk) but it was always fairly niche. It wasn't until the rise of things like Adult Swim and the culture of the Internet that Deadpool was ready to enter the mainstream. Daniel Way just happened to be the main book writer when that happened, alongside a big push from Marvel editorial. The fact that his run is not fondly remembered and none of what he did persisted supports this.
Deadpool Spinoff series are kinda important to learn how the characters developed thorough the eyes of other characters. Also, you had to read Cable and Deadpool, and even that Cable Annual in 2008; tells a lot you don't know
@@Official_FuzeWell he's not talking to anyone. When he tells Fox to get fucked, he headbutts the camera and turns around to the TVA guy whose perspective was just Wade talking to no one.
@@_V.Va_ yeah I can kinda see your point there. It's still not entirely how I like it but hey, they ain't made with ME specifically in mind. Still love the movies
The only way Ryan Reynolds will do it again is if they let him do his Deadpool and not the MCU Deadpool. If they won't let him do that, he will not come back.
This was such a great video! The first half I was a little worried since I could see all the parallels between comic and film and thought you might have overlooked the way it adapts those parts of the character but you expertly laid the groundwork to explore those exact things in far greater detail Going to see & Wolverine tomorrow, really hope it doesn’t make this age bad too lol
Imma say this, it’s still the beginning for the character, here my take u have to set things in stone, but hopefully we get to dive deeper in Deadpool stories especially thanos and death
Assuming people curious to see what fox did differently from the comics must automatically mean “people think its bad or disappointing” instead of not really finding it that big of a deal but simply being curious is probably the most modern youtuber thing someone can do and its done in the first 40 seconds
In Deadpool 2 the first thing he tries to do is kill himself. He did this because of all of the depression and insecurities. Its still there, just smaller in scale. If someone also commented something similar to this, sorry I didnt read it.
I would love the next Deadpool movie to be him fighting Madcap. Also add in a Steve Rogers cameo for a nostalgic Captain America scene. It could be a wild and crazy massacre. Im thinking it could work!
like me w/ moon knight. i understand, i think its important to remind ourselves, how much the industry cares first, and always, about money over doing the most well done art. by that i mean, it you like a character bc of their source material, its important to brace oneself to be humbled with any mass appeal adapted interpretation for these big franchises, respectfully.
You should definitely check out deadpool and wolverine WWIII. Its very short and has writing so incredible it blew me away and made me go through every emotion
Deadpool & Wolverine really fixed this. Even the Cpt. America love and then disappointment when chris Evans is Johnny Storm. I agree there needs to be a way to address the multiple voices in his head
I just hope he gets a teleport vest in the future but I love the Rynolds version of DP. I bought New Mutants 98 in a gas station back in the 90s, so you could say I have been a fan for a bit.
I love the idea of deadpool's character constantly being destroyed and built back up. It thematically parallels with his healing factor, and means that no matter what hell he goes through he has no choice but to get back up. Sure, he can survive being stabbed, shot, and blown to pieces, but he still feels the agonizing pain. Deadpool has never been my favorite character (I tend to agree with gwenpool in that he is a bit too much XD RANDOM) but when done well he is an excellent character. Focusing on the merc, rather than the mouth. This also leans into how I feel abt antiheroes as a whole but I'm not the youtuber so I'll leave that untouched
I think Reynolds saw this happening as well. He loves the character soooooooooooooooooooooo fucking much he doesn't want to just make another movie just cuz.
beneath the jokes and fourth wall breaks, there's a tragedy to deadpool. He's done terrible things, he's had terrib;le things done to him, he's suffered everything from cancer to even outright dying, he's been betrayed, more people in-universe hate him than love him, he has VERY few actual friends, and to top it all off thanks to certain revelations he can't even be sure most of his life has even been REAL. I think what really exemplifies the dichotomy of Deadpool as a character is Deadpool Roasts the Marvel Universe. On the surface its the moost silly, nonsense Deadpool story imaginable, with a very silly start where thanos comes in in a stupid thanos themed helicopter (the thanoscopter) only for deadpool to get his hands on the infinity gems and infinity gauntlet out of nowhere and then uses said gems to force everyone in the marvel universe to attend a roast where deadpool makes fun of EVERYONE and everyone is magically forced to laugh with him. Of course as the characters lose all composure and laugh and laugh Deadpool jsut walks out, gets SERIOUS as he gives his biggest roast to the people he hates most: the audience and the writers. He lays out how much he HATES everything, how awful his life is and he blames them and their endless consumption of his comics forcing him to live a terrible, awful life of suffering for their amusement. Fortunately Howard the Duck helps him and gives him a peptalk as he assures deadpool he's not alone. The point is this story really encapsulates the depth of deadpool. He may seem like jsut a font of jokes, but in the right circumstances you can see that beneath it all he's a sad clown who jsut wants a fucking BREAK. "Heard a joke once. Man goes to a doctor, says he cannot see any hope in the world, can only see darkness and tragedy. Doctor says here's a ticket for the greatest clown in the world, Pagliachi, should pick you right up. Man says, but doctor, I am Pagliachi. Everyobody laugh. Applause. Curtains."
I'd be curious to get a revision of the last 1/3 of this after watching the film. We get a lot more of what was missing in this film. That Word graph at the end would have to add at least 5 or 6 more. (avengers, hero worship, daughter (sorta), cap admiration , )
I would argue that Deadpool and the Mercs for Money is a mainline Deadpool title. Wasn't it basically serving the exact same purpose at the time, and didn't it replace the other one?
I read a Twitter post from conservatives saying Deadpool is refreshing because it had two straight main hero. Like, didn't they pay attention how experience DP was with being pegged that he gave advices and clearly shows he would fked Wolverine if he got a chance 😂
One more regarding the nature of translation/adaptation, not being a one-way street: you can talk about how they had to make Spider-Man pregnant with himself in the comics because they wanted to give him organic web shooters like he had in the Raimi movies.
It feels like they watched this video when making Deadpool and Wolverine lol, a lot of this was addressed; especially Wade's insecurities and how he does look up to characters like Wolverine and Cap. Wade is trying to be more heroic, but also man does he do some messed up stuff in 3. I do hate that 2 and 3 really sidelined Vanessa though; really weird that they did that to her twice.
Hot take - Deadpool is Marvel’s Joker, but on the contrary to DC, where they leave Jokers inner self to a mystery, Marvel dives deep into DPs head in all its inconsistency and… madness
So this video is awesome but for me its hits closer to home because i myself have been dealing with alot of mental health issues. Life just isnt going right however instead of giving into the dark thoughts in side my head im going to keep "rounding the corners". You never know what your videos can do thanks.
Anyone else want a Deadpool kills the marvel universe adaptation? But like as an avengers or X-men movie. Or both team up to stop him. And they’re hoping to have the mutants make a huge comeback back and kinda be the next avengers
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I feel like Deadpool and Wolverine addressed a lot of this, highlighting Wade's insecurities particularly
Was abt to say this
Agreed. However, that is Disney, not Fox anymore so I see from where he is coming. U too. 👍
@@The_Infamous_BoogymanTrue, but it was also quite obvious that there were just some things Fox couldn't address, like Wade's admiration for Captain America and the Avengers. And with the very premise of the film, a lot of that aspects of admiration was also directed towards Logan (even if he does go so far as to desecrate his corpse).
The car scene between Logan and Wade in particular was amazing for this. Nevermind the fact that the fight was fucking insane, but just the dialogue and Hugh's performance. Also love the fact that they didn't have Wade take his mask off, just held on his speechless expression for a bit. Their dynamic was sooo well done, both the comedy and bits of drama & bonding.
I think the insecurity was ALWAYS there, sometimes on the surface and sometimes subtextually.
In the first movie, we hear about his childhood. We see how many times he cannot stop fucking up, even when it's detrimental to him. We see how stubborn he is about teaming up with anybody.
And the thing about his appearance in the first movie wasn't just a blurb. It's a major turning point in the story. And it's also a representation of his self-esteem. The FACT that he thinks Vanessa won't be able to get past his appearance is just another way of saying "maybe she thought my good looks were the only thing she liked about me".
And it isn't just something that nags him throughout the movie either. He LEAVES her because of it.
So yeah. Saying "Deadpool's insecurity isn't really presented" is woefully disingenuous.
I'd even argue that Wolverine takes the place of Captain America in the first movie. It's not just a nod and a wink to the camera. He has a kind of reverence for the guy.
Deadpool and Wolverine actually fixed a lot of your complaints. Specially him wanting to be a hero but thinking that he’s not until he actually becomes one saving the multiverse, also it also shows him showing his respect to Captain America
that moment when he thinks he's meeting cap and it's actually johnny is hilarious XD
@@arthurthompsondelachenelie7404 The rat really held a grudge on that twist didn't he? 😆
And his adoration for Spider-Man!
His petty when he finds out its not cap, ultimately getting his ass flayed is just classic comic deadpool lmao@arthurthompsondelachenelie7404
Johny is such a pottymouth
A lot of people forget that Deadpool is supposed to be insane, not just quirky or goofy or capable of breaking the fourth wall, but incredibly mentally ill.
That ain’t go over well either today’s audience, they’ll think ur making fun of the mentally ill and cancel or boycott you
It depends on how they handle it, there’s a level of tact that should come with covering mental illness
@@Yvng_ded what are you yapping about, people absolutely love media that covers the topic of mental illness. Nobody gets canceled, that's not a thing. People face accountability for their action, but nobody has ever been "canceled" before. At most, they get yelled at online and then go back to making millions in the same day.
@@KOOK_78 it might be because Deadpool's mental state isn't always treated seriously, many times it's for comedic effect. Still though, I wish it was used more.
@@matti.8465 I totally agree that nobody really talks about Deadpool as a mentally ill character, I'm just saying I disagree with that other guy acting like people wouldn't want an exploration of Deadpool as a mentally ill man
I think this version of Deadpool is very much like the Maguire Spider-Man, which is to say unfaithful, but in a way that condenses the journey of the character for the sake of run-time.
The Spider-Man of the Maguire films was the fully developed version of the character that the modern audience was familiar with as the pure essence of the character. It's arguably true that the journey of the comic book version made that essence more meaningful, because we see just how much he's grown, but it would take a dozen movies to see that journey and the point is to start right away with someone the audience will like.
As someone whose main exposure to Deadpool before the movie (aside from a collection of cameos) was the 2013 Deadpool game, I saw him as a morally dubious D-lister who frequently bothered the X-Men. And yeah, they nailed that. I think there's a reason why the video game adaptation was so close in characterization to the movie, and why fans seem to like the both of them so much. This is the character's essence, distilled down to a digestible size.
I think the original Spider-Man trilogy was one of the best adapted superhero series and I don't care that it's not faithful to the comics. And that's how I feel about Deadpool too. If the writers know what they're doing, then vibes are all that matter.
It’s just dumb to compare it when you have multiple comics and only 3 movies 💀 that’s utter brain rot
@@LUKAS_956 Could you explain what you mean by this?
@@LUKAS_956he dident compare it he was giving a opinion on somebody who watched the movies not the comics , if you followed comics to a T then would just drag and not work for the mass audiences
@@philipvipond2669 learn to read
@@LUKAS_956 He says behind the computer screen
As a guy who has historically read a lot of Deadpool, i can confirm thats theres basically one good solo series on him.
The 2012 Duggan/Poeshn one.
I didn't know how fans felt about that one, it's one of the only Deadpool runs I've read and I enjoyed it a lot. Tony Moore's art is amazing, my favorite look for DP. The guy who took over after Tony (Mike something? ) was a lot simpler but it fit the story well.
The Joe Kelly run was great and to me, it’s still THE essential Deadpool run.
Joe Kelly as well
Did you enjoy deadpool 3?
Nah Joe Kelly’s run is arguably better, and the first bit of Daniel Way’s run is pretty good too
I try not to put too much emotional investment into the character evolution of Earth 616 comic characters. A prime example is Otto Octavius. When Otto takes over Spider-Man’s body Peter tries and fails to get it back while stuck in Otto’s dying body. He dies but he manages to give Otto his memories, which isn’t enough for Otto to give the body back and accept death, but it is enough for him to legitimately try and be a Superhero, with mixed results. Eventually he realises he’s outmatched against Norman Osborn and willingly gives the body back to Peter in a selfless act of sacrifice.
Eventually in true 616 fashion he comes back; not as Doctor Octupus but he’s able to inhabit a clone made from both Peter and his Original body, moves to the West Coast and becomes their Spider-Man, also with mixed results but a great look at Otto’s character development…until he goes up against an alternate version of Osborn with Spider powers that he can’t beat. This time he ends up making a deal with Mephisto and getting his original body back, losing Peter’s memories but gaining the ability to outwit Osborn, but undoing most of his character development as he walks away from the life and friends he’d made.
Then at the end of the recent third Superior Spider-Man run he loses ALL of his memories related to everything I just said, finally reverting him back to square one.
Weirdly enough out of all the character development regressions we've had throughout 616 this is one that stung particularly bad as I read it. Maybe because it finally took seriously the internal world of a character I thought they'd never touch with any depth?
In any case I definitely agree with your sentiment, Marvel and DC comics benefit greatly from being read as modern folk tales that are continually reinterpreted and can't be trusted to be internally consistent for more than a few years at a time.
I dropped out of comics a little bit after Saga went on hiatus, but Superior Spider-Man was an absolute highlight.
Damn, that's a shame. Marvel, in general, always felt like a universe that moved on in small ways. Like Peter hasn't really been the angst teenager for a while - that's Miles now. The world slowly changes and that was nice. So to have a character be reset like that sucks. I don't think many of Marvel's character resets ever went over well. I mean, sure, Ock becoming a good guy removes his role as a classic super-villain... byut that's okay! It's a fictional world - we can make new characters! It would also mean new kinda of stories. Ock and Peter teaming up and showing off their different takes on Spider-man would be really interesting. The continual development of their relationship. Ock's relationship with other super villains. And so on.
@PhotonBeast Unfortunately, editorial at Marvel seems hellbent on making sure that Peter's world never evolves beyond the status quo that was set during the 70s. Biggest example being the removal of his marriage. Peter can't ever be in a long-term relationship cause it makes him look old and unrelatable or whatever stupid shit they come up with.
I think the only status quo that they've let change is Peter's relationship with Jameson
I agree with your thesis. There's this constant demand that a comics character adapt The Comics Version that doesn't understand that there isn't one singular Comics Version. You have to take what you think is the essence of the character from all their history, and in the process of doing that you just create one more version, with some essential traits and some new qualities, that is then part of what the next person to use the character gets to draw from. But now you have comics writers treating the movie version as The Version of the character, and anything not included in that version is secondary apocrypha that gets cut away.
I also think it's sad that Marvel has few to no actual antiheroes, like your on-a-downswing Deadpool periods. Troubled heroes, sure. Lethal and sadistic heroes, definitely. But actual more-harm-than-good Problem Causers? John Walker and the Scarlet Witch is all I can come up with.
Does Punisher not count as an antihero
There's also the aspect of not wanting to make the films a misery fest. Not only does that wear on the audience after a while, but it can really get inside the actor's head and sour them on the role forever.
Not to mention you can only fit so much about one character in a movie and it still makes sense with the main plot. Some things just aren’t necessary. It’s a little bit nit-picky to me.
Good point man
spidey-pool is the movie we need, but not what we deserve
Spoilers up ahead FYI:
They didn't have a lot of it, but I'm glad we got some of fanboy Wade in the new movie
If Ryan Reynolds' Deadpool would of had 2 voices in his head, the second one should have been voiced by Nolan North.
3:56 GREAT LAKES AVENGERS MENTIONED LET'S GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FLATMAN!
WOO, GLA. I'm still annoyed about Mr Immortal's adaptation.
The reason for fox movie deadpool only highlighting select amounts of things and not have all the fluctuations in his character is the industry itself. You never know if they'll make another movie with this character or have him ever show up again, so the stories need to have an ending that can be the end of the whole story. If he gets put into the mcu, then he can go on a multi movie character arc that takes 4 years worth of appearances to finish.
No one got done dirty as much as MCU Hulk, not even close.
100% Ragnarok is where the franchise dies for hulk fans, Logan skips hillbilly monster hulk, and endgame has hulk (where in the comics he basically solos the avengers, fantastic 4 and the X-Men) he gets solod by Thanos so hard he's reduced to a beaten puppy never to be seen again.
@@joecutts3971 Hulk getting beaten by Iron Man is just insanity. Tony loses every single time in the comics. Also Carol no-selling Thanos’ headbutt? Smart Hulk no-sold Carol in the comics and one-shotted her. She admitted her and gamma flight couldn’t beat Immortal Hulk and later Hulk fought her and the entire Avengers.
i adore deadpool and the kelly run was like, formative for me in a way. as soon as you started talking about it i was like, "aw god we're gonna have to talk about typhoid mary". i don't remember how old i was when i first read it, but i don't think age would have made that any less disturbing. well written, but that's why it was so disturbing.
and i love the term oscillation here. it's the best way to condense deadpool's character in a way that makes sense. that up and down, back and forth IS his character. his story is about that push and pull and thats why i love it. it feels so true to life, as fantastic as the comics may be.
You forgot to mention the raspy voice. Not only was it accurate but it was more than an aspect, it was the reason why his speech bubbles are yellow. Not only that but it played a key part in Ellie remembering Wade just by hearing a raspy voice in a touching scene where she hasn’t seen him in awhile. Also forgetting how they character assassinated Weasel. Movie Weasel was antithetical to his character. And forgot to mention Slayback and Garrison Kane.
If you skipped the Cable & Deadpool books then your research was not truly extensive.
Also, if it wasn't obvious from the original comment the mutant Deadpool is the most connected to for his first 15? years is Cable.
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@@darksaint0124 a youtuber not doing their due dilligence with proper research and chasing trends!? inconcieavable! whats next? something about the us elections? couldnt be.
anyone who knows more about comics than me is a no life dork and anyone who knows less about comics than me is a fake casual fan.
I love Cable & Deadpool so much, what a shame.
Ima be honest, movie Deadpool is one of my favourite versions of the character
I've not delved into Deadpool comics; Specifically, I didn't feel particularly drawn to what looked like (even before the movies) to be Deadpool's brand of humour, and this video manages to argue for a level of depth in Deadpool's character i had never previously even considered.
On a very different note, are you planning on doing a video on the Acolyte, now that the full season is out and all? I desperately need to see someone sane talking about it in public. Pillar you're my only hope.
Cool to see ya talk about Deadpool, especially regarding some comic book stuff directly.
^^
0:32 whoa, I need that Rian Johnson video. Brick is so wonderful. Just a full noir in a high school.
21:46 ALSO, it's worth mentioning that at one point, Deadpool/Wade describes his new look as "like Ryan Reynolds fucked a poodle", which really made casting easy.
Yeah... Oh no...
You mean sharpie and he said cross bred
Reading every comic that features a certain character would be a crazy thing to do. There are so many of them! Only a fool would attempt it.
i yearn for even 1% of your power
Why do I feel like they used Deadpool's dynamic with Spider-Man as a basis when it comes to his relationship with Wolverine in the film? I haven't watched it yet, but from what I've seen, it's the same kind of one-sided bromance with Wade acting like he has a crush.
It’s somewhat a result of the general way that Wade’s pansexuality has been handled in the comics, as in it’s a lot of jokes about him being attracted to other men and the general homoeroticism of the genre, which makes it a bunch of queer-baiting bs.
The one time it wasn’t a joke was with that non-binary Vietnamese assassin Valentine Vuong, a character created by non-binary Asian American comic writer Alyssa Wong, who despite the lies told by ComicsGate weirdos didn’t ruin Iron Fist when they helped to introduce an actual Asian holder of the title, didn’t cheer when Stan Lee died, and isn’t a bad writer or creator for making non-binary East Asian characters for both DC and Marvel, moving back to the point of Valentine being the first time it wasn’t a gay joke or queer bait, the pair’s relationship is fine at the end of Alyssa’s run, only for Marvel Editorial and Alyssa’s replacement to immediately terminate the relationship off-panel, (but at least they didn’t try to pretend Valentine never existed.) It’s annoyingly obvious they just want to continue making Spideypool jokes, CablePool jokes, and WolverinePool jokes, thus the constant queer baiting of Deadpool resumes with its typical vaguely homophobic undertone, Spideypool, CablePool and WolverinePool is just typical of Marvel
be more upset @jessclark9725 you ungrateful person .
@@MCouldhavebeen-lu4jx3bt4pyour so right cuz I feel like they pussy out of exploring his gender because his fans are cishet men that find his meta humor funny
Well it’s partly based on that and Ryan and Hugh’s real friendship.
@@MCouldhavebeen-lu4jx3bt4pIt's not in the slightest homophobic the comics and Hollywood celebrate homosexuality, it's more so self depreciating humor.
I totally agree, kinda a spoiler, Deadpool and Wolverine was a nice goodbye to Fox Marvel and I am really excited to see new versions of these characters. I am way more excited to see a new version of Wolverine than 90 year old Hugh Jackman
It's weird cause technically he is still in the fox universe by the end not mcu timeline
@@vergilcold1167 Yeah I was surprised by that. I figured (no major spoilers) part way through the movie that this was their way of bringing the Fox characters into the MCU. But they didn't go that direction, and idk what they plan to do with them now.
Like, was I the only one that figured the TVA stuff was their way of bringing Deadpool into Marvel's universe?
My guess is that they realized that having him as background radiation would be a bit much, so this is less them dragging the two directly into the literal universe, and more establishing they're safe on the bench, ready to be called in when needed rather than being put on the field or kicked off the team. Because yeah they're still in their own universe, but now the TVA has a pair of nigh unkillable murderhobos to call on if they see timelines in need of an extra but of help.
I've never thought about vanessa taking on the role of Mistress death. That's a really cool way of looking at it!
"He never comes close to villainy"
Literally murders every henchman on his hunt for Ajax, pretty anti-hero if you ask me.
So... is Logan an anti-hero now too?
We're just gonna re enact OSP's "What is an Anti-Hero?" Video at this rate.
@@CaptainEffort
Guys, the whole point is that Anti heroes are vague and only defined by the society who reads them.
Strict definitions would make individual heroes be put into boxes where they don't feel like they belong.
@@CaptainEffort Yes
Didn’t he let Blind Al escape but then pull a major mind game on her when he re-captured her?
He said villainy not anti hero. Villainy is being spiteful, attacking others especially heroes due to insecurities that he is unable to come into terms with.
I honestly think movie deadpool is better in a lot of aspects. I love deadpool and read all the comics but the take ryan did was really good. He was goofy and over the top yet serious when he needed to be, which the comics deadpool is like that in are usually the best. He grounded the character without losing its identity
If you like that aspect, read the Duggan/Posehn run. Like the video says, The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly shows him in his darkest hour and humanizes him in a genuinely heart wrenching way while still keeping him Deadpool/Wade.
This is going to sound weird but I was thinking about the phrase "much to their chagrin" earlier today. So hearing you use it in this video put a smile on my face :)
Deadpool 3 spoiler warning
You've been warned
Was Deadpool really sincere about his respect to Captain with the salute at the TVA, and when he freaked out about seeing Chris Evans, which he thought was Cap, in the movie, and was it a reference to Steve being a idol for Wade in the comics as you talked about in this video?
Crazy how we can be given a labor of love that is probably the most comic acurate marvel project and people will still complain
It feels almost like "Deadpool and Wolverine" was created in response to this video-it touches on so many of the more fundamental themes with him. He's grown from being just "Fox Deadpool" to being _Deadpool._ He's changed, become a better person, we see more dimensions to him.
Heck, even the fourth wall breaks are done in a much better fashion; they're less "OMG random" and more... I dunno.
Having Wolverine to play off of was exactly what the character needed.
I think you're right about iteration and superheroes. It's nice to see new versions of them.
In film, Batman occurred to me when you mentioned the idea. Do we want Christopher Nolan's Dark Knight or Joel Schumacher's rubber daddy? Both! Nolan's films had a lot of interesting internal conflict but Schumacher gave us a Batman who genuinely wanted the role and that was interesting in a whole different way (and he managed to get a rubber bar Batman costume with nipples on approved for mainstream film, which is quite impressive).
I read alot of the Deadpool comics prior to the first films release and i really love the darkest aspects of him as a Character. I hate how every hero treats him like complete shit for the most part, but there are some like Cable, Wolverine and even Cap who can see he isnt just a joke. When he is horribld to his friends (especially Blind Al) it can make you really hate him but in the end he has usually done more good than bad.
To be fair he doesn’t really deserve their respect, hes a toxic asshole and he knows it
Correction for 23:16, Ryan never said he was done with Deadpool. In that 2022 interview, he said he was doing "nothing BUT Deadpool for the next 2 years" (2022 - 2024). You got clickbaited a bit there.
Anyway, after DP & Wolverine; I think this version really works, and can continue to work if DP gets to interact with more of the Marvel universe down the line. His dynamic with Logan, while hilarious and enjoyable to watch, is also genuinely sweet and you can feel a reverence grow between them as the movie goes on.
I don't think we'll see a lot of the oscillation you talked about going forward, but I feel like there's an open door for Wade to have really interesting interactions with a lot of the cast. It's just a shame he won't get to meet the OG Steve from pre-Endgame. Would've loved to see that meeting.
Deadpool 2’s going after a dangerous young mutant is right out of Remender’s X-force run. A team where Wade is the heart, soul, and conscious. Absolutely one of the best runs for the character.
It's funny people don't like Daniel Way's run for it's memey aspects because his third trade "x marks the spot" is my go to example for the more emotional, conflicting, and intelligent side of deadpool. It's the run I compared the movies too and also felt like the movies fell short in the ways described in this video.
I'd like to see the more bad side of Deadpool, he was an assassin trying to kill X-Force in the 90s, he fought Wolverine a lot as another Sabertooth-like nemesis. The first movie hints he was a hired gun before getting his powers, but the films have him fight along C-tier X-Men only he isn't as GoodyTwoShoes as Callosus. Same with Venom, he also began as a Spiderman villain, but he's instantly Lethal Protector in the newer films, in a way; Spiderman 3 got Venom more right.
Thing is, Deadpool was INFINITELY less interesting as a villain than an anti hero
@@jwattzzvain stuff like Hulk vs Wolverine he’s great as a villain, but I prefer anti villain Deadpool
0:11 Brian Reynolds??????
Ha it's a better name 😂
I’m actually super interested in that masculinity and the impractical jokers idea hope that you make that video eventually
I really like the idea of Deadpool as a palimpsest in this and I think it's a really good way to look at Superhero comics in general. I know a lot of people can fixate on having one pure version of characters but I think the nature of comic characters is to be multifaceted multifaceted and different depending on the story they're in. I remember Gwenpool had a nice discussion of this idea with its treatment of Batroc the Leaper and it's awareness of how that version of Batroc was different to other versions.
On another note, it's just really cool seeing you directly discuss comics. I know you've covered them before for videos like Superman isn't Jesus but it's cool to see a video with such a large focus on a character's comics and I hope you do more of it in the future
I'd argue it was less that Daniel Way made Deadpool break into the mainstream and more that mainstream culture had finally caught up to Deadpool. In the late 90s DP was a little ahead of his time. 4th wall breaking, profoundly weird content was nothing new to Marvel and DC (Lobo, Howard the Duck, Animal Man, Spider-Ham, Byrne She-Hulk) but it was always fairly niche. It wasn't until the rise of things like Adult Swim and the culture of the Internet that Deadpool was ready to enter the mainstream. Daniel Way just happened to be the main book writer when that happened, alongside a big push from Marvel editorial. The fact that his run is not fondly remembered and none of what he did persisted supports this.
Deadpool and Wolverine just like to go for a walk.
A very enthusiastic walk.
But remember he doesn't kill the bad people because they're bad. He kills them as part of a revenge rampage 😅
i was hoping this video would be describing the craziest situations deadpool has gone through in the comics that are too violent even for a 18+ movie
Deadpool Spinoff series are kinda important to learn how the characters developed thorough the eyes of other characters.
Also, you had to read Cable and Deadpool, and even that Cable Annual in 2008; tells a lot you don't know
Well, it's incredibly lucky that we even got the Deadpool film in the first place, so I think it's fine to let things go.
Don't do it if you aren't gonna do it right. You people just love to eat anything up because "just be grateful you got it"
@@Owen-sx4jjGet over it.
I mostly just miss him being medically insane
Is him talking directly to an audience that isn’t there NOT insane behavior?
@@jwattzzva in my opinion no. I don't think breaking the 4th wall is "insane" and especially not in the way the movies do it.
@@Official_FuzeWell he's not talking to anyone. When he tells Fox to get fucked, he headbutts the camera and turns around to the TVA guy whose perspective was just Wade talking to no one.
@@_V.Va_ yeah I can kinda see your point there. It's still not entirely how I like it but hey, they ain't made with ME specifically in mind. Still love the movies
The only way Ryan Reynolds will do it again is if they let him do his Deadpool and not the MCU Deadpool. If they won't let him do that, he will not come back.
This was such a great video! The first half I was a little worried since I could see all the parallels between comic and film and thought you might have overlooked the way it adapts those parts of the character but you expertly laid the groundwork to explore those exact things in far greater detail
Going to see & Wolverine tomorrow, really hope it doesn’t make this age bad too lol
Lmao, that ad transition was fantastic.
I'd like to think Deadpool fans are called Dead-heads
I’m so glad this suggestion of mine ended up paying off PoG!!! This was fantastic and hits on everything I was thinking about when I suggested it.
This was great. We should talk about comics more often!
I really wish we got some Spider-Man and Deadpool team ups
maybe there will be soon
Imma say this, it’s still the beginning for the character, here my take u have to set things in stone, but hopefully we get to dive deeper in Deadpool stories especially thanos and death
Assuming people curious to see what fox did differently from the comics must automatically mean “people think its bad or disappointing” instead of not really finding it that big of a deal but simply being curious is probably the most modern youtuber thing someone can do and its done in the first 40 seconds
Sorry I was late, was too busy watching Deadpool & Wolverine, lol
Man I really want to see that Rian Johnson Video. He is a contender for my favorite director of all time
Me too but people are gonna be PISSED
i love the deadpool movies they are really awesome.
In Deadpool 2 the first thing he tries to do is kill himself. He did this because of all of the depression and insecurities. Its still there, just smaller in scale. If someone also commented something similar to this, sorry I didnt read it.
I would love the next Deadpool movie to be him fighting Madcap. Also add in a Steve Rogers cameo for a nostalgic Captain America scene. It could be a wild and crazy massacre. Im thinking it could work!
I loved deadpool and wolverine so awesome I'm gonna watch it again
The voices in his head are a big one
like me w/ moon knight. i understand, i think its important to remind ourselves, how much the industry cares first, and always, about money over doing the most well done art. by that i mean, it you like a character bc of their source material, its important to brace oneself to be humbled with any mass appeal adapted interpretation for these big franchises, respectfully.
You should definitely check out deadpool and wolverine WWIII. Its very short and has writing so incredible it blew me away and made me go through every emotion
Deadpool & Wolverine really fixed this. Even the Cpt. America love and then disappointment when chris Evans is Johnny Storm. I agree there needs to be a way to address the multiple voices in his head
What’s an X-men I’ve never heard of that
pyro
I think it's a type of deodorant.
I think it’s a vitamin supplement
X-men are men without a Y-chromosome.
It's a weapon to surpass metal gear.
I just hope he gets a teleport vest in the future but I love the Rynolds version of DP. I bought New Mutants 98 in a gas station back in the 90s, so you could say I have been a fan for a bit.
3:08 she was domino before domino officially made her first debut
They just make him palpable to a large audience because they think the audience is dumb
I love the idea of deadpool's character constantly being destroyed and built back up. It thematically parallels with his healing factor, and means that no matter what hell he goes through he has no choice but to get back up. Sure, he can survive being stabbed, shot, and blown to pieces, but he still feels the agonizing pain. Deadpool has never been my favorite character (I tend to agree with gwenpool in that he is a bit too much XD RANDOM) but when done well he is an excellent character. Focusing on the merc, rather than the mouth.
This also leans into how I feel abt antiheroes as a whole but I'm not the youtuber so I'll leave that untouched
I think Reynolds saw this happening as well. He loves the character soooooooooooooooooooooo fucking much he doesn't want to just make another movie just cuz.
Love Deadpool comics.
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Thank you for making this video
Maybe they should make a longer series like Bojack Horseman
beneath the jokes and fourth wall breaks, there's a tragedy to deadpool. He's done terrible things, he's had terrib;le things done to him, he's suffered everything from cancer to even outright dying, he's been betrayed, more people in-universe hate him than love him, he has VERY few actual friends, and to top it all off thanks to certain revelations he can't even be sure most of his life has even been REAL.
I think what really exemplifies the dichotomy of Deadpool as a character is Deadpool Roasts the Marvel Universe. On the surface its the moost silly, nonsense Deadpool story imaginable, with a very silly start where thanos comes in in a stupid thanos themed helicopter (the thanoscopter) only for deadpool to get his hands on the infinity gems and infinity gauntlet out of nowhere and then uses said gems to force everyone in the marvel universe to attend a roast where deadpool makes fun of EVERYONE and everyone is magically forced to laugh with him. Of course as the characters lose all composure and laugh and laugh Deadpool jsut walks out, gets SERIOUS as he gives his biggest roast to the people he hates most: the audience and the writers. He lays out how much he HATES everything, how awful his life is and he blames them and their endless consumption of his comics forcing him to live a terrible, awful life of suffering for their amusement.
Fortunately Howard the Duck helps him and gives him a peptalk as he assures deadpool he's not alone.
The point is this story really encapsulates the depth of deadpool. He may seem like jsut a font of jokes, but in the right circumstances you can see that beneath it all he's a sad clown who jsut wants a fucking BREAK.
"Heard a joke once. Man goes to a doctor, says he cannot see any hope in the world, can only see darkness and tragedy. Doctor says here's a ticket for the greatest clown in the world, Pagliachi, should pick you right up. Man says, but doctor, I am Pagliachi. Everyobody laugh. Applause. Curtains."
Will forever be upset that they made Wolverine tall :,(
@jessclark9725 go cry about it.
@jessclark9725 he was always tall and your whining about it?
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go cry about it @jessclark9725, complaining as always, be more upset.
Thanks for the new word.
Nice video! But uh when ya gonna do Yostverse videos again.
I'd be curious to get a revision of the last 1/3 of this after watching the film. We get a lot more of what was missing in this film. That Word graph at the end would have to add at least 5 or 6 more. (avengers, hero worship, daughter (sorta), cap admiration , )
I would argue that Deadpool and the Mercs for Money is a mainline Deadpool title. Wasn't it basically serving the exact same purpose at the time, and didn't it replace the other one?
I read a Twitter post from conservatives saying Deadpool is refreshing because it had two straight main hero. Like, didn't they pay attention how experience DP was with being pegged that he gave advices and clearly shows he would fked Wolverine if he got a chance 😂
yeah, deadpool’s a lot of things, but straight is not one of them lol
One more regarding the nature of translation/adaptation, not being a one-way street: you can talk about how they had to make Spider-Man pregnant with himself in the comics because they wanted to give him organic web shooters like he had in the Raimi movies.
In my opinion the movie deadpool is too
stable and also to secure and not crazy enough
I like the slik and not complicated personality of the movies. Sometimes less is better.
Bro needs his own animated series
It feels like they watched this video when making Deadpool and Wolverine lol, a lot of this was addressed; especially Wade's insecurities and how he does look up to characters like Wolverine and Cap. Wade is trying to be more heroic, but also man does he do some messed up stuff in 3. I do hate that 2 and 3 really sidelined Vanessa though; really weird that they did that to her twice.
I've read every deadpool appearance up till 2012
I wish they would have included the two voices in his hear
Hot take - Deadpool is Marvel’s Joker, but on the contrary to DC, where they leave Jokers inner self to a mystery, Marvel dives deep into DPs head in all its inconsistency and… madness
So this video is awesome but for me its hits closer to home because i myself have been dealing with alot of mental health issues. Life just isnt going right however instead of giving into the dark thoughts in side my head im going to keep "rounding the corners". You never know what your videos can do thanks.
Does anyone else wish Deadpool would wear his ultimate alliance 2 outfit?
Sugar Bear Pete!
11:25
That shit hits different 😮
When Wade says something ain't funny. It is, 100% without a doubt, not. funny 😬
Anyone else want a Deadpool kills the marvel universe adaptation? But like as an avengers or X-men movie. Or both team up to stop him. And they’re hoping to have the mutants make a huge comeback back and kinda be the next avengers
Deadpool actually has two daughters funnily enough
They are, in fact, bringing back A dead avenger lol weird how that was timed
I really want his comics to get adapted