UPDATE: So after using this pad for a few months now, I can confirm it is indeed and excellent sleeping pad. It's kept me warm and I've had zero issues with deflation. I can highly recommend this pad to anyone looking for something to keep them nice and toasty throughout the colder months. 👌
@@nitrasoumetho8992 Yes, it certainly could be, however this would really depend on how cold/warm you sleep. You might find it a bit too warm for the summer months. It's not so much of a concern here in the UK, but in warmer climes, it might not be the most comfortable. I personally have a warmer weather pad (Big Agnes Zoom UL) to compliment this one in warmer weather. If you don't go out in really cold conditions, you might be better suited to the Tensor All-Season Pad. That will see you through all the seasons. I hope that helps.
Yeah, I love the Big Agnes Zoom comfort wise. Oh so comfy. My first impressions of the Nemo Extreme are great, I'm just hoping it's more robust than the Insulated version. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Hey Tom. Thanks so much, I thought I'd get this one out quick as yes, there aren't many reviews for it yet. First impressions are good, but it'll be interesting to see how it serves me in the long run. Hope all is well with you too mate.
Ah, funny you should say that Dave. I have a video coming out where I used the XT Extreme and slept cold on it. Thanks so much for subbing. I'm a fan of your channel, so it's an honour to have you on board.
Looks great! Any comments on the updated valve? My Nemo Tensor failed mysteriously and I suspect it is some aspect of the design. I see that they are putting this new valve on the new pads and I'm wondering if that is the fix. Thanks
Hey Jeff. The valve seems fine to me, although I didn't have any issues with my Tensor Insulated valve. All the problems I had were with the baffles. I'll keep an eye on it and report back how I get on when I do a full review. But so far, so good. 👍
@@trickofthetrail maybe it was the baffles on mine, I don't know. No visible evidence of a problem yet it won't hold air, and it was babied. Lasted maybe 4 nights. Anyways they are replacing it on warranty so I will see what happens!
Hope you have more luck with this pad! I've been eying up the Ether light XT after hearing this wasn't quite as comfortable as the tensor but with the winter we seem to be having the extra R value seems to edge it out, look forward to seeing how you get on with it
Thanks Nick. So do I. The Etherlight XT Extreme is more comfy for sure, but this isn't bad. Got a couple of dead arms in the middle of the night, but I also did with Tensor Insulated. Its big win is in its warmth, weight and pack size. I'll do an update at the end of the winter, but just drop me a message if you want an update before then. 👍🏼
Thank you Mr Taylor. I'm so glad I managed to make the pricing clear enough this time round. I've not had one such question...I might just be starting to get the hang of this. 🦣
Hi, thanks for the breakdown - super useful! The Nemo pad seems pretty amazing - have you had more nights out with it? I am between the Nemo and Thermarest, but the R-value and potential comfort are nudging me towards the Nemo pad.
Hello Philipp, thanks for watching mate. Glad you found the video useful. Yeah I've been out for a few more nights with it and am out again this weekend. I've not had any deflation issues, although in very cold temperatures it does seem to go down a little bit, but once you top it up it doesn't go back down. I think it's all just to do with temperature change, so nothing to worry about. The comfort is very good too. Not the most comfy pad I've used, but it's not bad at all. You'll find it much more comfy than the Thermarest and less noisy. Hope that's the extra nudge you need. 😁
I love the new Nemo pad! Mine seemed to have lost air the other night and I’m wondering if you have an update on it being temp related or if there was a leak. I baby my gear so I’m hoping it’s just the change in temp.
Ah that's interesting to hear Andrew. Unfortunately I haven't had a chance to get out since, so can't give any updates at this point. I did inflate it at home and leave it for a couple of days. It did go down slightly, but not so much you couldn't sleep on it. I will keep an eye on it for future camps and report back. Let me know how you get on with it. 👍
So hard for me to trust air mats! Used to have an exped but was just rolling off it… Currently using self inflating therma rest mats, women’s trail lite (all family using this model, very good) and the smallest pro lite. The good old therma rest base camp is on my wish list, together with some sort of pack animal to transport it😊
Yeah, air mats do make me nervous, especially as I've had some bad experiences with them. I do a have foam mat, which for some of the warmer months I occasionally use. Whilst not as comfy I do like the peace of mind that it's not going deflate. Plus I like the convenience of it. Shame it's so bulky. I've got a self inflating Mountain Equipment pad and I find it rather comfy. I use that for when space is at a premium if I'm sharing a tent.
Be sure to not inflate an air mat like a tyre... it needs a low pressure, so as to kind of float onto the pad rather. You lay on it and deflate it so your hips just don't touch the bottom when laying on the side. IT makes a huge difference!
I enjoyed the comparison in your video 😊makes it easy for us to compare what’s on the market, another layer of research for me if ya like so thank you. I’m still using my Rab ionosphere R value 4.8 and was in -2 it’s so thick and never deflates so I’m Pushing it and I’ll feedback on my videos. I’m glad you’ve found a pad that ticks all of your boxes. I’d be tempted to add it to my wish list after seeing your short term review 🙌🏻ATB, Sarah
Hey Sarah, for some reason a couple of your comments have got put into "Held for review". Weird. I think you also left another comment too, but I seem to have lost that, even though I approved it. 🤷 Thanks TH-cam! Anyway...yeah, it will be interesting to see how this pad gets on in the long term. I sleep quite cold, so it's always a challenge for me. I've heard good things about the RAB ionosphere, I'll be interested to hear how you get on with it in colder conditions. Oh and many congrats on getting to 1k. Great going! 👏
I really like the Zoom, it's uber comfy and is lightweight. However it's no good for cold weather. It'll be my warmer weather pad, but I'll be sticking with the Nemo Tensor Extreme for everything else. I have heard good things about the Rapide SL, but never tried it.
I have been looking at this pad. Thanks for reviewing it! Is it wide enough that your arms aren’t rolling off? It looks decently wide. I’m very interested to know if you find it keeps losing air. Great video!
Hey Shan. Yeah it's quite wide (this is the regular wide version), so I didn't have any problems with my arms falling off it. However, it was so cold outside so I was keeping my arms firmly tucked inside my quilt. 😆 Re the deflation. I inflated the pad when I got home and left it for a couple of days. It did go down a bit, but no more than the normal amount of air that would leak out of a pad over time. I will keep you posted though if I have any issues with it. Because I've had issues with the Tensors before I think I'm a bit paranoid about it.
Hey mate, that's a pretty nifty pack size for such a high R value. I'll be really interested to hear how the deflation/air loss is long term. I hope you have better luck with it than your last Nemo! Can you inflate it with a Flextail pump, or is it a pump sack job?
Hello matie. Yeah, they warmth to weight ratio is mega. Just fingers crossed I don't have any deflation issues. It seems okay atm, I left it inflated for a couple of days and it only went down a bit. Yeah, you can inflate it with the Flextail pump. However I don't think any of the nozzles fit snuggly into the valve, so you have to hold it in place whilst inflating.
Well. Yes and no. I had it out over the weekend in the Lakes and it did deflate on the first night a bit. This was after I initially blew it up and before going to bed. I then topped it up when I went to bed and it didn't deflate for the remainder of the night. I had zero issues the following evening. I am putting the slight deflation down to changes in the temperature I think. It seems to happen mostly in sub zero temperatures. The second evening wasn't quite as cold, probably 2 degrees or so. I will be keeping an eye on it though.
I haven't had much more chance to use it over the Xmas period. I'm taking it out on a two night trip this weekend, so I'll probably do an update after that.
Oh don't worry, I'll be fuming if this does keep deflating and it'll be going back. It'll be the last Nemo pad I'll buy that's for sure. However I think it might be okay. I inflated it at home and left it for a couple of days. It did go down slightly, but probably only a normal amount a sleeping pad would after a couple of days. We'll soon see though.
I don't think I'll ever test the R-Value to its full limits, as I probably won't be out in temperatures under -4 Celsius. However it really was nice an warm on that first test. Quality? Well, time will tell. I'm hoping they've fixed the issues that plagued the original Tensor. I'll do a full review after some heavy usage. Thanks so much for watching and commenting.
I watched video where guy testing this pad on 30 Fahrenheit and guy wasn't happy, later he add comment on video that NEMO admit they send him pre production mad and that was defect so doesn't sounds promising. How can you work on new product for year or whatever made a pre production series and than admit its wrong. @@trickofthetrail
I’ve got 5-6 exped pads right upto the downmat9. They are so quiet and comfortable. I’ve slept outside on a synmat9 coupled with a rab summit pro 800 at -10 and I was so warm. At what point are we buying pads for Antarctica but sleeping in Scottish mountains. I’m not sure if this pad is overkill. The weight to warmth ratio is where I’m at now to dial in the perfect pad.
@@summittaedae2323 hey 👋🏻 I’ve only had Exped so far, but testing other mats now for comfort and warmth. I’m based in Switzerland so warmth does play a big part in the alps. I’m also a cold sleeper so my ratings are much higher than needed 😅
UPDATE: So after using this pad for a few months now, I can confirm it is indeed and excellent sleeping pad. It's kept me warm and I've had zero issues with deflation. I can highly recommend this pad to anyone looking for something to keep them nice and toasty throughout the colder months. 👌
Could it be used as an all season pad?
@@nitrasoumetho8992 Yes, it certainly could be, however this would really depend on how cold/warm you sleep. You might find it a bit too warm for the summer months. It's not so much of a concern here in the UK, but in warmer climes, it might not be the most comfortable. I personally have a warmer weather pad (Big Agnes Zoom UL) to compliment this one in warmer weather.
If you don't go out in really cold conditions, you might be better suited to the Tensor All-Season Pad. That will see you through all the seasons. I hope that helps.
Saw this pad on the valley & peak IG yesterday, yours is the first review I've watched on it, and you've sold it. great vid mate, subbed 👍
Ah awesome thanks mate. Glad you found it useful. Having had longer to use it, I can confirm it's a great pad. You won't be disappointed. Enjoy!
I’ve this one and love it, I’ve the big Agnes zoom and rapid and find them all great for comfort but nemo without a doubt is far warmer.
Yeah, I love the Big Agnes Zoom comfort wise. Oh so comfy. My first impressions of the Nemo Extreme are great, I'm just hoping it's more robust than the Insulated version.
Thanks for watching and commenting.
Hey Mark, great review of the Tensor extreme and to hear of your experience.. Not many reviews of it yet on TH-cam... Hope you are well... Tom
Hey Tom. Thanks so much, I thought I'd get this one out quick as yes, there aren't many reviews for it yet. First impressions are good, but it'll be interesting to see how it serves me in the long run. Hope all is well with you too mate.
As a seatosummit ether lite XT extreme user that I find CÒLD, I appreciated this well narrated opinion. Subbed!
Ah, funny you should say that Dave. I have a video coming out where I used the XT Extreme and slept cold on it.
Thanks so much for subbing. I'm a fan of your channel, so it's an honour to have you on board.
@@trickofthetrail Dear fan, please send £250 for a new nemo mat.😁
😂 Sorry Dave, my mortgage has just gone up by that amount. 😵💫 I had to empty the donation jar to buy myself one.
Looks great! Any comments on the updated valve? My Nemo Tensor failed mysteriously and I suspect it is some aspect of the design. I see that they are putting this new valve on the new pads and I'm wondering if that is the fix. Thanks
Hey Jeff. The valve seems fine to me, although I didn't have any issues with my Tensor Insulated valve. All the problems I had were with the baffles. I'll keep an eye on it and report back how I get on when I do a full review. But so far, so good. 👍
@@trickofthetrail maybe it was the baffles on mine, I don't know. No visible evidence of a problem yet it won't hold air, and it was babied. Lasted maybe 4 nights. Anyways they are replacing it on warranty so I will see what happens!
Hope you have more luck with this pad! I've been eying up the Ether light XT after hearing this wasn't quite as comfortable as the tensor but with the winter we seem to be having the extra R value seems to edge it out, look forward to seeing how you get on with it
Thanks Nick. So do I. The Etherlight XT Extreme is more comfy for sure, but this isn't bad. Got a couple of dead arms in the middle of the night, but I also did with Tensor Insulated. Its big win is in its warmth, weight and pack size. I'll do an update at the end of the winter, but just drop me a message if you want an update before then. 👍🏼
Very clear price and R rating rundown. This saves me having to do my own research. Good work. 😉
Thank you Mr Taylor. I'm so glad I managed to make the pricing clear enough this time round. I've not had one such question...I might just be starting to get the hang of this. 🦣
Hi, thanks for the breakdown - super useful! The Nemo pad seems pretty amazing - have you had more nights out with it? I am between the Nemo and Thermarest, but the R-value and potential comfort are nudging me towards the Nemo pad.
Hello Philipp, thanks for watching mate. Glad you found the video useful.
Yeah I've been out for a few more nights with it and am out again this weekend. I've not had any deflation issues, although in very cold temperatures it does seem to go down a little bit, but once you top it up it doesn't go back down. I think it's all just to do with temperature change, so nothing to worry about. The comfort is very good too. Not the most comfy pad I've used, but it's not bad at all. You'll find it much more comfy than the Thermarest and less noisy. Hope that's the extra nudge you need. 😁
@@trickofthetrail Great to hear! Thanks again for the information
I love the new Nemo pad! Mine seemed to have lost air the other night and I’m wondering if you have an update on it being temp related or if there was a leak. I baby my gear so I’m hoping it’s just the change in temp.
Ah that's interesting to hear Andrew. Unfortunately I haven't had a chance to get out since, so can't give any updates at this point. I did inflate it at home and leave it for a couple of days. It did go down slightly, but not so much you couldn't sleep on it. I will keep an eye on it for future camps and report back. Let me know how you get on with it. 👍
@@trickofthetrail sounds good, thank you!
So hard for me to trust air mats! Used to have an exped but was just rolling off it… Currently using self inflating therma rest mats, women’s trail lite (all family using this model, very good) and the smallest pro lite. The good old therma rest base camp is on my wish list, together with some sort of pack animal to transport it😊
Yeah, air mats do make me nervous, especially as I've had some bad experiences with them. I do a have foam mat, which for some of the warmer months I occasionally use. Whilst not as comfy I do like the peace of mind that it's not going deflate. Plus I like the convenience of it. Shame it's so bulky.
I've got a self inflating Mountain Equipment pad and I find it rather comfy. I use that for when space is at a premium if I'm sharing a tent.
Be sure to not inflate an air mat like a tyre... it needs a low pressure, so as to kind of float onto the pad rather. You lay on it and deflate it so your hips just don't touch the bottom when laying on the side. IT makes a huge difference!
I enjoyed the comparison in your video 😊makes it easy for us to compare what’s on the market, another layer of research for me if ya like so thank you. I’m still using my Rab ionosphere R value 4.8 and was in -2 it’s so thick and never deflates so I’m
Pushing it and I’ll feedback on my videos. I’m glad you’ve found a pad that ticks all of your boxes. I’d be tempted to add it to my wish list after seeing your short term review 🙌🏻ATB, Sarah
Hey Sarah, for some reason a couple of your comments have got put into "Held for review". Weird. I think you also left another comment too, but I seem to have lost that, even though I approved it. 🤷 Thanks TH-cam!
Anyway...yeah, it will be interesting to see how this pad gets on in the long term. I sleep quite cold, so it's always a challenge for me. I've heard good things about the RAB ionosphere, I'll be interested to hear how you get on with it in colder conditions.
Oh and many congrats on getting to 1k. Great going! 👏
@@trickofthetrail interesting 🤔 ha ha thanks for the reply nonetheless. I’ll be sure to update along my journey, BE, Sarah
I’ve been thinking this pad or the Big Agnes Rapide SL. I had hoped the zoom would be the answer but have watched a few not so good reviews.
I really like the Zoom, it's uber comfy and is lightweight. However it's no good for cold weather. It'll be my warmer weather pad, but I'll be sticking with the Nemo Tensor Extreme for everything else. I have heard good things about the Rapide SL, but never tried it.
I have been looking at this pad. Thanks for reviewing it! Is it wide enough that your arms aren’t rolling off? It looks decently wide. I’m very interested to know if you find it keeps losing air. Great video!
Hey Shan. Yeah it's quite wide (this is the regular wide version), so I didn't have any problems with my arms falling off it. However, it was so cold outside so I was keeping my arms firmly tucked inside my quilt. 😆
Re the deflation. I inflated the pad when I got home and left it for a couple of days. It did go down a bit, but no more than the normal amount of air that would leak out of a pad over time. I will keep you posted though if I have any issues with it. Because I've had issues with the Tensors before I think I'm a bit paranoid about it.
Your reviews are top notch... You made far better use of the time than I did on that camp.. Great stuff👍
Ah, thanks very much Mick. You even had a cameo on this one.
Hey mate, that's a pretty nifty pack size for such a high R value. I'll be really interested to hear how the deflation/air loss is long term. I hope you have better luck with it than your last Nemo! Can you inflate it with a Flextail pump, or is it a pump sack job?
Hello matie. Yeah, they warmth to weight ratio is mega. Just fingers crossed I don't have any deflation issues. It seems okay atm, I left it inflated for a couple of days and it only went down a bit.
Yeah, you can inflate it with the Flextail pump. However I don't think any of the nozzles fit snuggly into the valve, so you have to hold it in place whilst inflating.
Any further problems with the mat losing air?
Well. Yes and no. I had it out over the weekend in the Lakes and it did deflate on the first night a bit. This was after I initially blew it up and before going to bed. I then topped it up when I went to bed and it didn't deflate for the remainder of the night. I had zero issues the following evening.
I am putting the slight deflation down to changes in the temperature I think. It seems to happen mostly in sub zero temperatures. The second evening wasn't quite as cold, probably 2 degrees or so. I will be keeping an eye on it though.
Does it still work?
I haven't had much more chance to use it over the Xmas period. I'm taking it out on a two night trip this weekend, so I'll probably do an update after that.
£270 is alot for a mat ... if it's going down I'd be raising hell mate 😂
Oh don't worry, I'll be fuming if this does keep deflating and it'll be going back. It'll be the last Nemo pad I'll buy that's for sure. However I think it might be okay. I inflated it at home and left it for a couple of days. It did go down slightly, but probably only a normal amount a sleeping pad would after a couple of days. We'll soon see though.
I've been looking at this pad myself but had some concerns about the quality, and if the r value is accurate
I don't think I'll ever test the R-Value to its full limits, as I probably won't be out in temperatures under -4 Celsius. However it really was nice an warm on that first test. Quality? Well, time will tell. I'm hoping they've fixed the issues that plagued the original Tensor. I'll do a full review after some heavy usage.
Thanks so much for watching and commenting.
I watched video where guy testing this pad on 30 Fahrenheit and guy wasn't happy, later he add comment on video that NEMO admit they send him pre production mad and that was defect so doesn't sounds promising. How can you work on new product for year or whatever made a pre production series and than admit its wrong. @@trickofthetrail
Exped synmat 7R beats em all
Yeah, I've heard good things about those mats. Not had a chance to try one yet.
Is it more comfortable though? I have a synmat and definitely could be better
I’ve got 5-6 exped pads right upto the downmat9. They are so quiet and comfortable. I’ve slept outside on a synmat9 coupled with a rab summit pro 800 at -10 and I was so warm. At what point are we buying pads for Antarctica but sleeping in Scottish mountains. I’m not sure if this pad is overkill. The weight to warmth ratio is where I’m at now to dial in the perfect pad.
@@summittaedae2323 hey 👋🏻 I’ve only had Exped so far, but testing other mats now for comfort and warmth. I’m based in Switzerland so warmth does play a big part in the alps. I’m also a cold sleeper so my ratings are much higher than needed 😅
Nice little review cheers 👍 any more issues with deflation?
Volume... can't hear.
Turn it up?