We used to post " a huge diamond ring abot 5 carat, lost outside the theatre, reward given" hoping to film the people looking for it, but not a single person had even bothered to look!!!
The suspense and detail in this video are phenomenal! It masterfully captures the essence of a century-old mystery, offering viewers a fascinating glimpse into the world of treasure hunting and code breaking.
"Everything you need to know is in the numbers." Said at the very end of this video, and so very true, if you look at the numbers AS THEY WERE WRITTEN. In the 1885 pamphlet the printer has completely mangled the codes, making them impossible to crack in that format.
but the original beale papers booklet was not destroyed. so that is what to follow/use.. copies of it are copies, copier would not scramble what it Copies.. by person or device
@@joestitz239 I am not saying that the original booklets do not survive, a very few of them do. What I am saying is that the codes within them were wrongly printed, and do not conform to the manuscript given to the printer in 1885. This fact was established in the 1990s. The codes as printed in 1885 are not the numbers AS THEY WERE WRITTEN.
@@DerekWalsh-l4i ok. but the originals can still be related to the constitution, page 2 has been. there's reason strongly to check the bill of rights for page 3 translation. magna carta for page 1. or vice versa. bit no one has ever done that.
@@joestitz239 Forget what you call "the originals." It is very obvious that you have never seen how these ciphers were originally written. Copies of the original versions were printed in a book in the early 1990s, and their layout is completely different from those in the 1885 pamphlet. Watch this space, I will find details of that book for you.
Yes, there should be an option in the settings!! We're subjected to too much noise and I end up not watching documentaries like this, because of the unbearable sound effects!! Because these sound effects are so easy to do, they don't have to use them all, do they? They immediately place this documentary to a non serious type of genre, not worthy of our precious time.
I’m a real life treasure and relic hunter and this is a perfect example of what’s wrong with almost every big treasure story. People mix the fun that can come from something like the Beal Cipher with the fun you have when looking for something that legitimately has a chance of being real. It’s two different things completely. I wouldn’t waste one second on most of the big ones but I still enjoy reading about them from time to time.
@@cbrown9555if your life experience and people you associate with has you translate someone being unemployed with them selling a business you might want to stop wasting time trolling in TH-cam comments and find a better situation or group. If it really pains you that someone can do this then brother you should be in pain because I highly doubt I’m the only one.
@@ryanh9183we're here to gain information about this code, not to be subjected to unrelated background music and strange sounds!! If you were watching a classical concert on TH-cam and there was a man yapping in the background throughout the concert, would you subscribe to that channel or would you turn it off. I'm just doing the latter. 😊
Lookup the Spaniards moving like fifty donkeys worth of gold or silver. Think how much weight you can haul on a pack mule or donkey. If you put 200 pounds on a pack mule that means if you have ten mules you’d literally be moving 2000 pounds or one ton of gold. Have you read about the history of the Spanish mining in the west? Like hello? The Spaniards settled Santa Fe, New Mexico, before the pilgrims landed at Plymouth rock.
Burying that much gold and silver would require a HUGE hole, not the little one shown in the video. As well, that much metal would easily trigger metal detectors. If it was just a few miles from that inn or tavern, hunters would have found it years ago. And they wouldn't have been able to keep it a secret. No, the hoax story is the real story.
Ok they used the Declaration of Independence to break one page. They say Thomas Jefferson Beal and two friends. Well the Declaration of Independence was change by Quincy Adams and again by Benjamin Franklin. So the other two pages might be solved under the other two versions. Just a thought.
How many miners would it take to mine then smelt all of that how many more people must have been supporting those workers with food? Why is there no evidence of any of that infrastructure?
In those days mercury was very common and used to desolve gold ore in small scale mining or if the ore was high grade they could trade it as it was .. as for employees most small mines was kept a secret and worked by the owners themselves... because anyone who knew could be a danger.
Imagine if you go through all of that trouble and you find it but when you open the box and there’s only one peace of paper and all it says is jokes on you.
Well guess what... ? - There was a Underground Gravy Train started... Treasure was taken from around this location and dropped around other locations...videos were made to mislead people .... - th-cam.com/video/CHO6iMh_KDY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=V3TfBTvvOCGKIvcD
The Beale Papers don’t lead to a physical treasure. It’s a Masonic learning tool which uses number patterns to teach. It is the recognition of those numbers that are key. Here’s an example: the Papers themselves are 23 pages long. Morriss the innkeeper waits 23 years to open the chest, and the Papers’ unknown author waits 23 years to give them to James B Ward to be published. Could be coincidence, but remembering that the Declaration of Independence was used to decipher Cipher #2, if we refer back to the original document and look at the 6 columns of signatures, you’ll see, if you count down these columns, that Robert Morris is the 23rd signature. This can’t be coincidence. So, what is the purpose? There are lots of these in the Papers- and they are completely outside the actual ciphers themselves.
Of course you could pretend that the Blue Ridge Mountains were an island in Nova Scotia & just start digging giant holes everywhere. You're bound to find it after the 1000th episode, right?
It is interesting we are speaking of the Constitution…. There was a “Beale” who was an artist who portrayed Benjamin Franklin at the Constitutional Convention in the 1900 s. Franklin became a Freemason at age 17 in Philadelphia in 1731. Theres a ton of references to a “great treasure “ related to the Early American Freemasons. The French had lost “significant land holdings” to the English in 1763. In 1776 Franklin went to France seeking help from them for the Revolutionary war in 1776. Interestingly Benjamin Franklin was a member of the Lodge of the Nine Sisters in France and became its Grand Master from 1778- 1791.. If one paper matches the Constitution what two other documents match the other two? Could Thomas Pains Common Sense be one ? I’d like to hear what AI would make of these “cyphers.”
"200 years" and "treasure" just don't really perk up my ears. That's like me telling my husband that some house we're driving by "is really old" (we live in the US), when he's from the UK and seen remants of castles that existed long before Columbus ever set foot here :D
I know. People talk like the civil war was centuries old. Two peoples lifetime end to end. That's like yesterday. They say their family has been here for 10 generations. You can have 4 generations living at the same time, big deal? I drive a 2002 car, it's 22 years old, still looks like a modern car. That's like driving a car from the 60s in the 80s. Life is way short.
I would have used a map with the 2nd letter. Placing a circle 4 miles from the tavern in all directions then another at 3.5 and 4.5. After that I would look at all the structures around the tavern inside the rings that existed prior to the burial of the treasure. This would allow me to narrow the search to areas that aren’t populated and where newer buildings are at. After investigating the newer building locations if any exist and determining that nothing was found I would move to the part of the ring that was just woods.
They was looking for something that was no longer there 30 people was involved in it before it was buried, you can almost GUARANTEE that one of those 30 went back to where it was buried and dug it back up not long after it was buried there, maybe even the same day or day after it was buried Would explain why there was nothing under the rock (if it was the correct location) that the two brothers dug up
If they use The Declaration of Independence as their first cipher breaker then don’t it make sense that they used The Constitution and The Amendments as the other two code cipher’s? Just saying…
Story doesnt add up. Why would they go half way across the state to hunt buffallo? Wouldn't it be rancid by the time you got it home or somewhere to sell. I didnt think buffalo graze up in the mountains. If they were out hunting buffalo, why did they have plenty of prospecting gear with them? Some quick observations from around the 12:00 part. I will bet lots more obvious bs hahaha. Oh yeah, and some one in St Louis had enough gold coins and bars to swap them without ending up being widely known. Hmmmm
@@candyvarvel In the Beale Papers there are 3 ciphers. No. 2 is deciphered using the American Declaration of Independence, as set out in the 1885 pamphlet. Ciphers 1 and 3 have not yet been decoded, and it is one of those which contains the number 1701 in the first line, shortly followed by 1629. In that same cipher are the highest numbers 2160 and 2906. None of that has anything to do with the Declaration of Independence, which is used only for decoding cipher number 2.
from paper 2 with the declaration of independence found to crack it, so no one else tries other documents for translation ? the magna carta, amancipation proclamation ? the bible ? additionally: it is mentioned 4 miles from that bedford location, yet no one tries to make a map of a central point then a circle around it-representing the 4 mile circular path to thus search.? process of elimination.
@@marvinellis1517 You missed the point. The whole point. It is a sin to desire something that is not clearly yours, if you didn't buy it or inherit it, stop wanting it.
Its too funny using that psychic to find it. He was definitely an amateur that bought into his own BS. A normal psychic would keep it vague enough so they couldn't be proven wrong. That way you keep coming back for more "clues".
The story is very real, they used the missing fair copy the first declaration a dunlap broadside signed by John Hancock, which I own. I have seen and experienced the reality of the tale 😎🤙. It wasn't Beales treasure he was the do boy for the enterprise.
Its a big load of horse shyte. The publisher should have ran a true treasure hunt with some random reward at the end. That way it would have gotten solved and the foolhardy wouldn't still be looking for it today.
This makes me want to write a bunch of random numbers on a piece of paper and leave it somewhere for the community to go wild. Love this channel! 🥰
No one would bother
@@JTwelks32people nowadays are too lazy to even bother, if it wasn't just given to them they wouldn't bother trying!! LOL
We used to post " a huge diamond ring abot 5 carat, lost outside the theatre, reward given" hoping to film the people looking for it, but not a single person had even bothered to look!!!
Carve it on a stone and bury it in the ground lol (Curse of Oak Island)
Yes
The suspense and detail in this video are phenomenal! It masterfully captures the essence of a century-old mystery, offering viewers a fascinating glimpse into the world of treasure hunting and code breaking.
"Everything you need to know is in the numbers." Said at the very end of this video, and so very true, if you look at the numbers AS THEY WERE WRITTEN. In the 1885 pamphlet the printer has completely mangled the codes, making them impossible to crack in that format.
The mistakes are the keys
but the original beale papers booklet was not destroyed. so that is what to follow/use.. copies of it are copies, copier would not scramble what it Copies.. by person or device
@@joestitz239 I am not saying that the original booklets do not survive, a very few of them do. What I am saying is that the codes within them were wrongly printed, and do not conform to the manuscript given to the printer in 1885. This fact was established in the 1990s. The codes as printed in 1885 are not the numbers AS THEY WERE WRITTEN.
@@DerekWalsh-l4i ok. but the originals can still be related to the constitution, page 2 has been. there's reason strongly to check the bill of rights for page 3 translation. magna carta for page 1. or vice versa. bit no one has ever done that.
@@joestitz239 Forget what you call "the originals." It is very obvious that you have never seen how these ciphers were originally written. Copies of the original versions were printed in a book in the early 1990s, and their layout is completely different from those in the 1885 pamphlet. Watch this space, I will find details of that book for you.
wish there was some way to turn off the background music....
Agreed
Yes, there should be an option in the settings!!
We're subjected to too much noise and I end up not watching documentaries like this, because of the unbearable sound effects!!
Because these sound effects are so easy to do, they don't have to use them all, do they?
They immediately place this documentary to a non serious type of genre, not worthy of our precious time.
I’m a real life treasure and relic hunter and this is a perfect example of what’s wrong with almost every big treasure story. People mix the fun that can come from something like the Beal Cipher with the fun you have when looking for something that legitimately has a chance of being real. It’s two different things completely. I wouldn’t waste one second on most of the big ones but I still enjoy reading about them from time to time.
Wow 🤩 cool job you have!
“Real life treasure hunter”, prove it big boy. Bahaha. !!!!!
@@cbrown9555 I said treasure hunter didn’t I :). In all seriousness I sold a business a few years back so defiantly take the hobby seriously.
@@legacyXplore so you’re saying, “I’m unemployed” !!!!!
@@cbrown9555if your life experience and people you associate with has you translate someone being unemployed with them selling a business you might want to stop wasting time trolling in TH-cam comments and find a better situation or group. If it really pains you that someone can do this then brother you should be in pain because I highly doubt I’m the only one.
After watching all of this I feel almost as cheated as they must have finding out there was no treasure.
This sounds as ridiculous of a fantasy as National Treasure or The da Vinci Code.
Have you heard Stephen Fry’s description of the da Vinci Code?
th-cam.com/video/aIjrUFpx8Cc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=QyFj9mpfhCh8pat_
It's entertainment. Isn't that why you're here?
@@ryanh9183we're here to gain information about this code, not to be subjected to unrelated background music and strange sounds!!
If you were watching a classical concert on TH-cam and there was a man yapping in the background throughout the concert, would you subscribe to that channel or would you turn it off.
I'm just doing the latter. 😊
@@E-Kat you are a moron
the actor solving the cypher obviously didn't understand how it worked lol!
Why bring all that treasure from Colorado just to bury it? Why not just bring it all the way home?
No one ever wants to talk about if it was even possible to accumulate or transport that much without infrastructure
Exactly
Lol normally blamed on 👾 aliens
Who else would be able to?@@jamesgratton6516
Lookup the Spaniards moving like fifty donkeys worth of gold or silver. Think how much weight you can haul on a pack mule or donkey. If you put 200 pounds on a pack mule that means if you have ten mules you’d literally be moving 2000 pounds or one ton of gold.
Have you read about the history of the Spanish mining in the west? Like hello? The Spaniards settled Santa Fe, New Mexico, before the pilgrims landed at Plymouth rock.
Burying that much gold and silver would require a HUGE hole, not the little one shown in the video. As well, that much metal would easily trigger metal detectors. If it was just a few miles from that inn or tavern, hunters would have found it years ago. And they wouldn't have been able to keep it a secret. No, the hoax story is the real story.
Ok they used the Declaration of Independence to break one page. They say Thomas Jefferson Beal and two friends. Well the Declaration of Independence was change by Quincy Adams and again by Benjamin Franklin. So the other two pages might be solved under the other two versions. Just a thought.
Now if one of you smart people use what I just said to solve it please throw some cash my way 😂
Thomas Jefferson breale and Benjamin Franklin Gates (the name of the protagonist aka Nick cage, in national treasure)
The addition of Jefferson to the name of Thomas Beale is pure fantasy. All we are ever given is the middle initial "J."
Ok maybe the J is for Joke 🤷♂️
How many miners would it take to mine then smelt all of that how many more people must have been supporting those workers with food? Why is there no evidence of any of that infrastructure?
They didn’t smelt it. They traded the ore for existing coins etc. common to do that in the day.
Ppl and
In those days mercury was very common and used to desolve gold ore in small scale mining or if the ore was high grade they could trade it as it was .. as for employees most small mines was kept a secret and worked by the owners themselves... because anyone who knew could be a danger.
Well, it just goes to show that treasure codes are not the Beale and end-all.
Ohhhhh sir. You really said what we all wish we were thinking. Hahaha
🤣
The treasure coders didn't put any Heart into it.
Imagine if you go through all of that trouble and you find it but when you open the box and there’s only one peace of paper and all it says is jokes on you.
Well guess what... ? - There was a Underground Gravy Train started... Treasure was taken from around this location and dropped around other locations...videos were made to mislead people .... - th-cam.com/video/CHO6iMh_KDY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=V3TfBTvvOCGKIvcD
Pretty soon I will be able to afford a good metal detector and I'm going out and hunting lol
Start from a middle range at first. 😊
ONE MAN IN THE BEALE PARTY LIVED TO BE AN OLD MAN HE KNEW WHERE THE TREASURE WAS AND HE KEPT IT FOR HIMSELF. I KNEW THIS MAN'S
Stop shouting we can hear you were not deaf
The worse a story is told, the more music they use.
The Beale Papers don’t lead to a physical treasure. It’s a Masonic learning tool which uses number patterns to teach. It is the recognition of those numbers that are key. Here’s an example: the Papers themselves are 23 pages long. Morriss the innkeeper waits 23 years to open the chest, and the Papers’ unknown author waits 23 years to give them to James B Ward to be published. Could be coincidence, but remembering that the Declaration of Independence was used to decipher Cipher #2, if we refer back to the original document and look at the 6 columns of signatures, you’ll see, if you count down these columns, that Robert Morris is the 23rd signature. This can’t be coincidence. So, what is the purpose?
There are lots of these in the Papers- and they are completely outside the actual ciphers themselves.
Give AI a crack at the Beale ciphers.
Of course you could pretend that the Blue Ridge Mountains were an island in Nova Scotia & just start digging giant holes everywhere. You're bound to find it after the 1000th episode, right?
The real treasure of oak island is the money made from the show.
It is interesting we are speaking of the Constitution…. There was a “Beale” who was an artist who portrayed Benjamin Franklin at the Constitutional Convention in the 1900 s. Franklin became a Freemason at age 17 in Philadelphia in 1731. Theres a ton of references to a “great treasure “ related to the Early American Freemasons. The French had lost “significant land holdings” to the English in 1763. In 1776 Franklin went to France seeking help from them for the Revolutionary war in 1776. Interestingly Benjamin Franklin was a member of the Lodge of the Nine Sisters in France and became its Grand Master from 1778- 1791.. If one paper matches the Constitution what two other documents match the other two? Could Thomas Pains Common Sense be one ? I’d like to hear what AI would make of these “cyphers.”
"... Sherman created the papers as a money-spinner."
"Ah yes! The Sherman Bank.
This Is Very Interesting…….🌞
Interesting documentary 💯👏
"200 years" and "treasure" just don't really perk up my ears. That's like me telling my husband that some house we're driving by "is really old" (we live in the US), when he's from the UK and seen remants of castles that existed long before Columbus ever set foot here :D
I know. People talk like the civil war was centuries old. Two peoples lifetime end to end. That's like yesterday. They say their family has been here for 10 generations. You can have 4 generations living at the same time, big deal? I drive a 2002 car, it's 22 years old, still looks like a modern car. That's like driving a car from the 60s in the 80s. Life is way short.
People existed here before Columbus honey.
@@lynnloww who said they didn't. Did you respond to the wrong person? Stop calling people honey! I'm not your honey! Are you having a stroke?
@@lynnloww We don't drive by indian mounds. I'm talking about existing buildings. We're well aware there were people here before Columbus.
I would have used a map with the 2nd letter. Placing a circle 4 miles from the tavern in all directions then another at 3.5 and 4.5. After that I would look at all the structures around the tavern inside the rings that existed prior to the burial of the treasure. This would allow me to narrow the search to areas that aren’t populated and where newer buildings are at. After investigating the newer building locations if any exist and determining that nothing was found I would move to the part of the ring that was just woods.
Very intetesting !
Poor Thomas.
Poor bastards
U trust this man????
Oh my, I grew up in Virginia. Wish I had known, I would have become a treasure hunter.😂😢😮😅
Real History, Lets make videos together!
@IOSALive. • This channel doesn't do OF. Stay in your own lane.
If three people were originally involved one of them went back & stole the treasure guaranteed !
They was looking for something that was no longer there
30 people was involved in it before it was buried, you can almost GUARANTEE that one of those 30 went back to where it was buried and dug it back up not long after it was buried there, maybe even the same day or day after it was buried
Would explain why there was nothing under the rock (if it was the correct location) that the two brothers dug up
Y
Interesting
Gonna need Indiana Jones to discover it.
Lmaooo kills me the dude is having his eyes rolled in the back of his head as though his possessed and can see the past during the seance 😂😂😂😂
The story of greed, which is not a mystery but a waste of time, better spent to help the needy, the old and the sick.
Been there, done that!
Maybe the codebreaker's actually broke it and they just didn't want to tell you that
We need liget financer about buried traesure,we guide you where in the Philippines the exact positive treasure site
Well, wasn’t that a disappointing ending?! But go ahead and cast suspicion that it just might be true…Still I give it a like.
Early 1800s in the new how to write code😅😅😅
ITS in the grave marked unknown next to Arch Stanton.
page 1 key is the us constitution containing 2018 words
The code it must be simple by coordinate, degrees given North East West and South.💪👀
Didn't Mel Fischer look for this treasure in his later years?
Ok so the words jewels and St. Luis are in the Dec. Of Independence?😂😂😂
If they use The Declaration of Independence as their first cipher breaker then don’t it make sense that they used The Constitution and The Amendments as the other two code cipher’s? Just saying…
Exactly what I was thinking.
Hmmm..
Story doesnt add up. Why would they go half way across the state to hunt buffallo? Wouldn't it be rancid by the time you got it home or somewhere to sell. I didnt think buffalo graze up in the mountains. If they were out hunting buffalo, why did they have plenty of prospecting gear with them? Some quick observations from around the 12:00 part. I will bet lots more obvious bs hahaha. Oh yeah, and some one in St Louis had enough gold coins and bars to swap them without ending up being widely known. Hmmmm
Buffalo were hunted for they're hides which were dried or salted and shipped back east.
@@davidanderson7291 ok, that part makes sense then.
50 minutes? Seriously?
found a treasure just like this one they never made it to beuford
Historical code breaker! What the joke is this profession? 😂😂😂😂
Who wrote in script in the early 1900's?
Are we just ignoring the physical amounts?
Weights?
Sounds like balderdash.
Declaration of Independence in 1320 words long and one of the numbers is 1701..?
Not so. 1701 occurs in cypher 1, not in the deciphered code 2.
@user-cw9qn1nb2n what's not true? The declaration of independence is 1320 words, look it up.
@@candyvarvel In the Beale Papers there are 3 ciphers. No. 2 is deciphered using the American Declaration of Independence, as set out in the 1885 pamphlet. Ciphers 1 and 3 have not yet been decoded, and it is one of those which contains the number 1701 in the first line, shortly followed by 1629. In that same cipher are the highest numbers 2160 and 2906. None of that has anything to do with the Declaration of Independence, which is used only for decoding cipher number 2.
from paper 2 with the declaration of independence found to crack it, so no one else tries other documents for translation ? the magna carta, amancipation proclamation ?
the bible ?
additionally: it is mentioned 4 miles from that bedford location, yet no one tries to make a map of a central point then a circle around it-representing the 4 mile circular path to thus search.?
process of elimination.
i think what these numbers are
Explore Golgumbaz Deccan
An AI can crack it.
AI cant even tie its own shoelaces let alone crack a cipher without a key. Just google Book Cipher to better understand the problem.
Not in this lil town. Go to the big city Mr. Grey..
Iron pyrites = 'fools gold'
*Classic lesson the Bible teaches clearly. The 10th Commandment. Thou Shalt Not covet anything that is thy neighbors.*
It belongs to no man as it is "lost"...crazy person.......😂
@@marvinellis1517 You missed the point. The whole point. It is a sin to desire something that is not clearly yours, if you didn't buy it or inherit it, stop wanting it.
Mermerism is a science? Really?
Why does every episode sound like a Christopher Nolan movie trailer?
No wonder nobody believes these stories
Its too funny using that psychic to find it. He was definitely an amateur that bought into his own BS. A normal psychic would keep it vague enough so they couldn't be proven wrong. That way you keep coming back for more "clues".
Foul
The story is very real, they used the missing fair copy the first declaration a dunlap broadside signed by John Hancock, which I own. I have seen and experienced the reality of the tale 😎🤙. It wasn't Beales treasure he was the do boy for the enterprise.
hoax for vidal castro
Derp.
Use AI and crack it!
So how did the orginal owers obtain the valuables
Another oak island show ha
Silly story🎉
Its a big load of horse shyte. The publisher should have ran a true treasure hunt with some random reward at the end. That way it would have gotten solved and the foolhardy wouldn't still be looking for it today.
Soooo a huge click bait that implies the treasure was eventually found but eventually revealed it wasn’t. Thanks a lot for wasting my time.🙄
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Wow. So none of this was true. Thank you for wasting my time. I’ll make sure to block this channel. Smh no treasure. No gold. Nothing. So lame
It's bullshit
I don't know why I watched this it was nothing but a load of rubbish !!!!
So some people believed this was all a hoax to sell the brochures… hmm… makes sense lol
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beale_ciphers