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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 เม.ย. 2020
- PART TWO: • let's talk about kaach...
london based kpop group kaachi recently gained quite a lot of traction and quickly became incredibly controversial. i was incredibly intrigued, and decided to do my own research and share my opinions/objective critique on the group! (also stan sf9 hehe)
#KAACHI #가치 #SF9
i also didn't mention in my video how much i dislike it when ppl use a grainy texture overlay when editing their photos ... the teaser photos look fine but the graininess just ruins everything.
(edited by 🍑) - เพลง
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𝗱𝗲𝗯𝘂𝗻𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝘄𝗶𝘁𝘁𝗲𝗿 𝗿𝘂𝗺𝗼𝘂𝗿𝘀:
- they have never used "i blue you", dkdktv did an incredibly thorough interview with kaachi that debunks all the rumours (th-cam.com/video/KFQu4bvv7lw/w-d-xo.html )
- please stop saying that the fan name is koochie and the light stick looks like a sex toy, both came from joke tweets and are incorrect
- they also have no connection to oli london's company, though coco did appear in his mv or something INDEPENDENTLY.
- none of the members have ever shipped themselves with jungkook, and the statements made against bang chan are all FALSE. any tweets made about shipping or dissing idols were made from a FAKE ACCOUNT
- they did not copy bts' logo, any images you've seen on twitter were doctored and are not kaachi's real logo
𝗽𝗹𝗲𝗮𝘀𝗲 𝘄𝗮𝘁𝗰𝗵 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝘁𝘄𝗼 𝘃𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗼𝘀 𝗸𝗮𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶'𝘀 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗱𝘂𝗰𝗲𝗿 𝗺𝗮𝗱𝗲 𝗯𝗲𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝗹𝗲𝗮𝘃𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗶𝗻𝗰𝗼𝗿𝗿𝗲𝗰𝘁 𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁𝘀:
th-cam.com/video/ax8aSUpGZ2U/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/oik74xcFBVk/w-d-xo.html
we also made a follow up video where we discuss cultural appropriation/asian representation in more depth!! check it out: th-cam.com/video/8lZFHR_2Jhs/w-d-xo.html
(also, we're planning on making a video on sb19 so keep your eyes peeled!! thank you for the many many kind and thoughtful comments and your support)
~ 🍊+🍑
I agree on your opinions they just need more effort to get people attention but fans need to treat artists as humans too and do not send too much hate. 😅🙂
why is ur writing so smol
Hey just an error correction! Chunseo is half Filipino half spanish
hi, I was just wondering, who are the group of guys dancing in the video?
@@icyflame3348 it's sf9! ~🍊
I still can’t believe Miso compared herself with Hwasa-
hannayeon_07 she left... tbh she was the only member with talent-
There was a video of them singing a BLACKPINK song and I think she was one that could actually sing but it might be someone else so idk
WHAT
Lmao i was so confused when she said that😂
You can’t compare yourself with the queen. It’s pointless to even try. 😤
@@cha_cha_sliding_real_smooth period.
Fun facts : Most of Koreans don’t know who is KKACHI and don’t care it lol
That's tragic
Lol so true
Preach
Ya I only got to know about this tragic group today, they seem horrible honestly no offense
Abigail haha
Every youtuber who makes a rant ever: don’t send hate to this person
The fans: I’m gonna pretend I didn’t hear that
Edit: OMG Thank you everyone for the likes! I really appreciate the likes! Whoever liked may you be happy forever😁
Yup. That's pretty sad, actually😂
Fauzan Ahmad Azzaki “this sign cant stop me because i cant read!”
@Nuoya Liu which is still bad
@Nuoya Liu yeaaah you kinda sent hate. On the Internet, you SEND your message. So you sent hate :)
@Nuoya Liu still hateful 😒
“I’m like the Hwasa of MAMAMOO”
Ummm I don’t think so...
"I'm like the Hwasa of MAMAMOO"
in your dream !
bitch, you don't. She can dance well, meanwhile you . . .
she has unique voice, meanwhile you . . .
She is slim like a sticc and hwasa is *THICC*
There's only one of her. There will never be another one of her. She is the only queen of herself.
Yes she is like hwasa
Kaachi Fanclub your not serious right
Personally, I think that shouldn’t of debuted as a “k-pop” but instead a pop group and they wouldn’t have gained so much hate.
Edit: TYSM for 10k likes, I know it’s cheesy but I just wanted to be polite :)
True. But even then they'd have to be better. Britain had the no1 gg in the western world - Spice Girls and they rocked that shit.
Praise J-Pope True
@@PraiseJ-Pope also Little Mix is from british isn't it?
@pxstel_purple ahh my bad. Sorry
why did they debut as a Kpop group?
i hate their group when they mocked Jennie, but still dances to black pink song
Ikr who do they think they are
To be fair it wasn’t actually them, it was a staff member behind the camera, but still fucked up.
Lily Rose yeah but they still kinda mocked Jennie
@@joselyn4620 But they didnt hear what the staff said
Is there any video of it. Send me link
bro imagine training hard for more than 5 years under a big company to achieve your dream and you get mocked for being lazy by your koreaboo juniors who have no talent or training experience whatsoever. jennie's probably laughing her ass off💀
Isn't that the thing with Western Pop groups ? Especially the ones picked from TV talent shows.
I don't understand why there is so much hate towards KAACHI, the rumors about them have been debunked by many people and they're fake. On the web, there are lot of people who will try to fool you and make you fake things about everything and anything. No seriously that's illogical ! You cry Jonghyun, Sulli, Goo Hara and Cha In Ha's deaths and you're making prevention campains against bullying and fake rumors, but beside this you're spreading fake rumors and you're bullying other people (here KAACHI). All of these rumors have been invented only in the goal to ruin their reputations. I do not stan this group but I do not send them death threats or insults, you should do the same. Me too I was about to believe to these rumors, I've almost being fooled by those fucking videos spreading fake rumors about KAACHI, but I saw comments and videos debunking all of these rumors.
If you hate this group, well, don't listen to their music, don't follow them on their social networks and stop sending them death threats, that's useless and scandalous, and you'll see that your lives will be way much better. How does it make you feel to spread fake rumors, sending death threats and insults to other people huh ? That you saved the world from a global disaster ? What's in your fucking minds to do such things ? Damn, you should stop doing this ! Don't you know the meaning of the word 'respect' ? Well I think your minds are too tiny to make this word enter into your brains. I'm sorry but this pisses me off to see and hear so much mean things about this group ! Who are fake by the way ! Would you like it if people would be bullying you and spreading fake rumors about you ? No ! So stop doing this ! #StopFakeRumorsAboutKAACHI
#FuckYouHaters
Here is a French video talking about KAACHI and those rumors (English subtitles available) : th-cam.com/video/4k0N-lWWCH0/w-d-xo.html
They have trained for years, Nicole has trained since she was very little and the others started training 4-5 years ago.
@@yohann_kpopfan3943 Hun most of us aren't even hating. It's just that the ones that are hating are louder. Kaachi didn't and never will deserve their debut. Actually they should go try to go through the 1st audition in the actual KPOP industry. They would obviously fail, with them lacking of skills in so many places. Lemme tell you something: *Kaachi is the trash no no landfill version of KPOP.*
@@akemi566 saying they're trash is kinda mean. For me a K-Pop artist is singing in Korean or in Korean/English but also doing promotions in Korea, if they want to be fully considered as K-Pop they should do promotions in Korea, and as they improved since their debut they'll shine for sure in the future. And watch this please : m.th-cam.com/video/sTSpua7iTpE/w-d-xo.html, they talk about their background and other things. And they have a contract with FrontRow, you'll have to wait the end of their contract unless they renew this contract, they will continue making music whatever people say. They didn't go through the Korean training system bcuz their producer didn't want it to, she didn't want them to be unhealthy and depressed with overpacked schedules, and almost no time to rest/sleep like most of the K-Pop idols, Jeongyeon from TWICE said she will momently retire from the K-Pop industry bcuz she suffers of anxiety issues or something like this. They make the music they like, and K-Pop is a genre of music, not the fact that you trained in Korea to do it. And don't forget this : music has no language, music is for EVERYONE, music gathers well beyond all differences.
i’m just gonna say.. It’s actually sad they debuted so easy. There are so many trainees who work so much harder than them and don’t even get to debut. Honestly they lack everything you need to be an AVERAGE kpop group in so many ways, when i was watched their As If Its Your Last cover i was not impressed at all. They weren’t even in-sync, their emotions were flat and they didn’t show any kind of team work in that performance. I don’t think it’s fair to compare them to a group like BTS who (are legends-) have trained for YEARS but if you compare them to a group that debuted this year or late 2019, THERE IS A BIG AND CLEAR DIFFERENCE! It doesn’t even seem like they want to be a kpop group, they just look like a bunch of friends dancing for a school talent show and that’s the hard truth.
i agree. to me, it seems like they noticed how popular kpop is getting and thought, "oh, if we do something related to that we could get famous or sumn" and when that didn't work because they lack real dedication, effort, teamwork, and skill, they chalked it up to not being kpop related enough, so they did the biggest thing they could think of, and rushed the process A LOT. part of it is also that they knew it'd be controversial, so they could gain fame that way. they want attention, and it doesn't necessarily have to be good. honestly, i could probably write a paper on this, so i'm gonna stop here, but you get my point (i hope).
Exactly! Like compare them to a group like mcnd or another rookie (I don’t know any new gg rookies besides... itzy?) theres a LARGE difference in talent. So large that it’s almost ridiculous. Trainees start out with more talent than Kaachi has.
I AGREE
First of all, yes yes yes. BTS are such legends. Second of all, I completely agree with everything you said. Kaachi is literally like a bunch of teenage koreaboos disguised as normal humans "trying to achieve their dreams" The girls just give a representation of when you become a kpop idol JUST to have your favorite idols notice you (which will obviously never happen..).
Monsta X and other kpop groups are promoting in English/western BUT they never said they were "western pop" or "American pop"
To be fair the Westen industry doesn’t use those labels. They don’t use things like ‘American pop’, that’s not a thing, it’s just pop. But the K-Industry does call themselves ‘kpop’ and makes a distinction between idol music and non-idol music. I think that’s what makes this whole discussion about what kpop is so complex
A. T. They fr wanna claim everything, now they’re hopping on a trend and industry that isn’t even theirs lmao
A. T. I agree that the Western industry is extremely self centred and arrogant and xenophobic. But I just meant that you won’t ever see people call it ‘Western/American pop’ just because those terms don’t exist, it’s just ‘pop’. And because the K-industry does make that distinction in calling themselves ‘K-pop’ it gets very confusing to define it. Is it a genre? (Not really because it incorporates different genres and is very diverse) Is it an industry? (Yes, but it’s more than just labels producing artists)
So this group calling themselves a kpop group is both weird but also not really wrong? Because they’re trying to follow the conventions of kpop. But that label also causes backlash because it’s unclear what exactly they wanna do.
So would have been way better to just produce a girl group inspired by kpop and be done with it. But they’re trying so hard to fit into this weird label and setting themselves up for failure 🥴
EXACTLY
A. T. 100% agree 👍🏻
can we just appreciate how underrated this video is? she put in so much work for the script !!
thank you so much!! hahaha i actually rushed to make this video, so the video (script writing/recording audio/editing) was made in under a day ♡ ~🍑
ohpeach that’s honestly incredible😔👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
jeossuu :D ohhh i see a fellow weeb with a good taste(balance unlimited)
they're even in korean company and they're even can speak korean and disgusting
Noice ur a fan of the millionaire detetctive balance unlimited
They still have chance to make everything alright if they:
- apologize to the idols they mocked
- don't sing in Korean and just claim as a western pop band
- train themselves more and give time to singing and dancing skills
- improve stage presence
- stop behaving like koreaboos
- and not try to copy other groups (like bp n itzy)
I believe they'll make a better band if they do this, but it's really hard for koreaboos to realise easily wht they r doing :(
Especially for the koreaboos in these comments spreading so much toxicity- Oh! You can relate :)
Meata Letoo 😂😂
They’re shit tho
@@smwatertasteslikewater alright that's a valid opinion but an opinion only. Doesn't give anyone any leverage to hate on them incessantly. Just move right on with your lives.
@@meataletoo2780 1. Toxic? Bro, she just said how she THINKS they could make things BETTER. That's an advice, not toxic at all and compared to other people's comments actually pretty nice.
2. Through that comment you just spread a bit of toxicity, congratulations! :D
3. Also your comment didn't make Sense bc he/she is definetely not a koreaboo.
And I saw you commenting stuff like that often. Can you just like... Stop? Or let other people have their opinions? Or stop calling everything that doesn't sound like somebody's a fan of kaachi toxic? Thanks.
@@andsprite I don't see anything constructive or positive in that comment at all. People are being so horrible to these girls. I'm not going to apologise for having empathy and feeling for them, how horrible it must feel to have this much hate- to have harmful and fake rumours spread about you when you're just trying to achieve your dream.
They just used Coco and the other Korean girls just to be called KPOP....
K. hiSseyeonii yahhh
I don't understand why there is so much hate towards KAACHI, the rumors about them have been debunked by many people and they're fake. On the web, there are lot of people who will try to fool you and make you fake things about everything and anything. No seriously that's illogical ! You cry Jonghyun, Sulli, Goo Hara and Cha In Ha's deaths and you're making prevention campains against bullying and fake rumors, but beside this you're spreading fake rumors and you're bullying other people (here KAACHI). All of these rumors have been invented only in the goal to ruin their reputations. I do not stan this group but I do not send them death threats or insults, you should do the same. Me too I was about to believe to these rumors, I've almost being fooled by those fucking videos spreading fake rumors about KAACHI, but I saw comments and videos debunking all of these rumors.
If you hate this group, well, don't listen to their music, don't follow them on their social networks and stop sending them death threats, that's useless and scandalous, and you'll see that your lives will be way much better. How does it make you feel to spread fake rumors, sending death threats and insults to other people huh ? That you saved the world from a global disaster ? What's in your fucking minds to do such things ? Damn, you should stop doing this ! Don't you know the meaning of the word 'respect' ? Well I think your minds are too tiny to make this word enter into your brains. I'm sorry but this pisses me off to see and hear so much mean things about this group ! Who are fake by the way ! Would you like it if people would be bullying you and spreading fake rumors about you ? No ! So stop doing this ! #StopFakeRumorsAboutKAACHI
#FuckYouHaters
Here is a French video talking about KAACHI and those rumors (English subtitles available) : th-cam.com/video/4k0N-lWWCH0/w-d-xo.html
Why couldn’t they have just created a Brit-Pop girl group that’s heavily inspired by K-pop concepts?
Actully here in Ph we have SB19 (stan sb19, they are worth stanning than kaachi) who is a P -pop but is inspired in k pop. They are trained like k idols, and are trained under k ent.
Exactly. Like SB19 is a purely Filipino pop group, inspired by kpop. And Z-girls was a group of (non Korean) Asian girls, inspired by kpop. Both groups have actual talent and didn't just try to imitate kpop, they did their own thing
exactly.. like the brit version of how 7senses (c-pop) is clearly inspired by kpop but is still Chinese pop.
I came here to comment about SB19 and someone already did.
I agree with this comment and doing so would have saved their faces.
even Z GIRLS ARE WAY WAY WAY BETTER THAN THEM. how dare 😡😡
I think they can be a Kpop inspired group, but saying 'western kpop' just makes me think wtf
i'd say they might fit into the "zpop" category
@@rihu- but zgirls/boys hv asians in it and hv actual talent so it's still btr than kaachi in evryway
childish no sorry zpop actually trained to be where they are.
childish Z-pop isn’t filled with western people and are actually trained properly, they also actually have the skills so no.
@@rihu- zpop is inspired by all types of Asian influenced music but from listening to kaachi they only have Korean and British influences so I don't think it would. You also have to be Asian to fall into the motto of zpop
Imma just change my comment...
But please do not be confused by Hate and Critisism THE 2 ARE NOT THE SAME.
You forgot moomoo😂😂
Stop hating on them, they dont derserve it
@@kaachifanclub9639 yes.
@@kaachifanclub9639 could you then explain all the plagiarizem that is happening?
mostly KPOP (KOREAN pop) fans are angry because of that
Ok with your 0 subscribers lmao
The only thing they’ve done well is getting some of the biggest fandoms of *actual* kpop to hate them.
They literally angered stay moas midzys moomoos and the biggest fandoms blinks and army
Also the fact that they were bullying Jennie and Shipping themselves with Kpop idols isn't good,cause in Korea shipping yourselves publicly with a senior Kpop idol is seen disrespectful. Also changing your name to Korean and acting like a Korean is very k-booish to me
it wasn't them who said the comment about jennie, it was someone else and the person who said it has already put out a statement apologising
I do have a question. What if your Korean friend gave you a name to go by in Korean whilst learning the language?
Wynn Grimsley As long as you respect the culture, appreciating it and not appropriating the culture, and not fetishizing the korean culture a/o not trying to become korean, then I deem that as not being a koreaboo and you not doing anything wrong.
Can someone tell me which video is that?
Connie M Miles Agreed. Like I get foreigners who have lived in Korea a long time will pick up on stuff naturally and act more Korean, but it does not seem natural on them. And then changing their names to Korean names is just nO
I’m sorry but all those trainees and idols did not train for years dealing with the atrocities of the industry for these four girls to just come and be like “lol let’s make a group”
Lool but they're doing well without that training though, Even their dancing is good. Your comment just proves that the years of training idols go through isn't necessary.
Also maybe they didn't train for years under 1 company but they may have been dancing or singing from a young age.
Clearly we don't know enough about this group to make these kind of statements.
@ExtraSwirl you sound like a colonizer lol "us westerners have to end this" wtf? they train they ass to some rich stupid girls come and steal their industry? kpop belongs to asians, they have no right or whatsoever, periodt.
yeah, the training system is awful, and a lot of idols have spoken about that. we have to hope one day that will change. but don't come with your colonizer speech
@@unhinged6823 they can make a pop group, don't call that shit kpop
@@nathliacristine PERIOD
@ExtraSwirl Things are already changing. Third gen groups had it better than those before (BigHit, JYP ...) and fourth gen are even more free. Change doesnt happen overnight. But thats not on us stans, but on Korea and the agencys.
They literally:
-mocked jennie
-shipped themselves with jungkook
-compared themselves to hwasa
-offended army and blinks
-compared itzy and twice
-copied txt's and Gfriend's MVs
What's next? Killing Gdragon?
Edit : ok so l got to know that most of these were false rumours. So don't believe the stupid things l wrote in this comment.
Poorvi cute girl and they degraded BANGCHAN the leader of stray kids calling him racist and homophobic these girls are a good bye👋🏻
hi there! out of curiosity, do you have any links to where kaachi called bang chan names? i've seen it mentioned a few times, though haven't seen any proof ~🍑
honestly the way I found out was i saw screenshots on Instagram tho i have forgot the name. then went and tried on Twitter to find more screenshots and i found them after searching up chunseokook on Twitter i have found more and clearer screenshots here she deleted her Twitter but this is the link -> twitter.com/jupiter_joon/status/1253054966341615617?s=21
hoped that helped!
@@smeenbean5457 thank you so much! i don't think it was ever confirmed that chunseo made the account though ~🍑
“They look like small potatoes” I WHEEZED
FUSION no they are not, pls stop hating the girls
Yeah! i thought that line was funny 😂 the video was rlly informative and not biased. I personally have nothing against the girls i dont rlly know them so 🤷♀️
Kaachi Fanclub ok with your 0 subs lol
Kaachi Fanclub go away koreaboo supporter
Kaachi is a shit
Can we just talk about how one of them compared themselves to Hwasa when not even one of them is near her dancing skills
Or even singing skills like sis don't they ever compare themselves to a queen.
YES thanks exactly what i was thinking!!
Not to mention the STAGE PRESENCE!! Girl I swear I-
Yessss they don't sing and dance very well how can they compare to Hwasa.😂😂😂
@@tigerbun-kd1pi yessss👌👌
My God it's not just the fact that their not all Korean it's just you have to have talent.....
their dancing is ok, but their singing or rapping.....
sadako ran none of them are in sync when dancing?
@@lalyspile7058 i meant that they are not bad dancers, but yeah they rlly can't dance in sync
ACCURATE
they are not in sync and they can’t even sing or rap 😏 so i completely agree with you
To be honest, if they were a pop group and had more training like: vocals, dancing skills, they would have success. Also I'm not hating I just heard the rumors and people said that they bullied Black Pink, copied BTS and others. Speaking of wich, one member of that group (Chunseo i think?) ships herself with Jungkook and they must know that BTS doesn't like being shipped with girl groups, it doesn't matter what group.
Bruh, how can they possibly “replace” BP when they literally can’t even dance in sync? Most of them can’t even speak Korean. Also, it’s obvious they didn’t really train because they do be kinda stiff. I just really wish they would set their goal to get better and not compare themselves to PROFESSIONAL IDOLS who did so much to get where they are now. Not only that, but they badmouthed Jennie :/. Jennie is a professional and has had to endure lots of training. They called her lazy when it’s obvious they copied dances. Maybe copying is a stretch but it still isn’t fair that they badmouthed Jennie. I refuse to stan them for many reasons but them calling Jennie lazy really pissed me off. I’m sorry for ranting.
they be mocking jenny for her lazy dance when they cant even dance and sync better than her lazy dance lmao..
@@dreamjens No that is not true. These rumors are completely made up, except for the dance thing, but their manager actually said that. So it's the managers and the companies fault. There is not any information about them having new songs, they just had one they don't have anything prepared for a new album already. When you look at the list of new songs it's Painfully obvious that it's fake. Also the thing about them being the next bp, I'm not sure if it's true, I don't think so but I could be wrong
I don't understand why there is so much hate towards KAACHI, the rumors about them have been debunked by many people and they're fake. On the web, there are lot of people who will try to fool you and make you fake things about everything and anything. No seriously that's illogical ! You cry Jonghyun, Sulli, Goo Hara and Cha In Ha's deaths and you're making prevention campains against bullying and fake rumors, but beside this you're spreading fake rumors and you're bullying other people (here KAACHI). All of these rumors have been invented only in the goal to ruin their reputations. I do not stan this group but I do not send them death threats or insults, you should do the same. Me too I was about to believe to these rumors, I've almost being fooled by those fucking videos spreading fake rumors about KAACHI, but I saw comments and videos debunking all of these rumors.
If you hate this group, well, don't listen to their music, don't follow them on their social networks and stop sending them death threats, that's useless and scandalous, and you'll see that your lives will be way much better. How does it make you feel to spread fake rumors, sending death threats and insults to other people huh ? That you saved the world from a global disaster ? What's in your fucking minds to do such things ? Damn, you should stop doing this ! Don't you know the meaning of the word 'respect' ? Well I think your minds are too tiny to make this word enter into your brains. I'm sorry but this pisses me off to see and hear so much mean things about this group ! Who are fake by the way ! Would you like it if people would be bullying you and spreading fake rumors about you ? No ! So stop doing this ! #StopFakeRumorsAboutKAACHI
#FuckYouHaters
Here is a French video talking about KAACHI and those rumors (English subtitles available) : th-cam.com/video/4k0N-lWWCH0/w-d-xo.html
@@dreamjens many have been debunked some are true and some ate not
I think the problem is that when they aren't Asian and claim the title of a "K-pop group" they seem more like crazy fangirls or fanboys than actual people who love this genre of music and want to be a part of it. It's even worse when they don't stand out for some exceptional talent like K-pop groups in general- rapping, singing, dancing.
KAACHI would be an ok group if they didn’t:
-Mocked Jennie
-Compared theirselves as Hwasa
-Shipped themselves with JK
-plagiarism in mv, and a phrase ‘I blue u’
-Disrespect BANG CHAN, who is an amazing leader and performer
And they should’ve:
- *Train* like a kpop idol, so they wouldn’t be criticize a lot for lacking skills
- and learn how to *speak korean* cause at this point.. only one is korean and knows how to speak in korean!
-and learn the *kpop and korean culture*
-and stayed as a dance group instead
-should’ve respect their SENIORS!!
(EDITED)
Some are apparently fake, but I’ll keep it here for a while,, I’ll Change later on
They can't dance and they can't sing
Javee their dancing and singing is ok but compare them to kpop groups
Yikes
Javee anywayd they sing and dancd better than me soOoOo🥴
Actually, learning the launguage is nothing compare to them learning how the korean culture works and how do they think in order to be able to promote and write lyrics appropiately
Kiwi -rin true
"Leader nicole who is venezuelan"
**gets embarrassed in venezuelan**
Same, chama
I feel bad for you
I'm not Venezuelan, I'm Honduran but I'm still embarrassed cuz we are all hispanics and this is not right.
And other of them is spanish, and I am too,,
CK-A -Victoria This is totes unrelated, but I LOVE YOUR PROFILE SO MUCH :’33
Honestly, Nicole is the only one who seems to care a lot about the group and she actually dances well and is somewhat stable. I at least respect her for trying.
Something else I would like to point out is that they aren’t hated because they aren’t Korean. For example when the concept for Z girls and Z boys came out literally no one called them Koreaboos. And there’s a simple reason for that. Those people aren’t Korean, that was their concept. The difference is that they actually put time and effort into training and learning to language to make a debut that isn’t complete and utter garbage. You didn’t see people hating on them because they were respectful. And I know Lana got a lot of hate when she debuted but again she was also respectful. A lot of us learned from that experience when we realized that Lana did nothing wrong. Her new song is actually pretty good and she even adresses the bullshit about her being a koreaboo. That being said Kaachi was none of these things. Imagine them as Koreans, would you like them if they were Korean? No, you probably wouldn’t. And the reason for that was because their song was actual garbage. Tell me I’m exaggerating but let’s be honest, even if our favorite group released that song we would never listen to it. The vocals are bad, the lyrics are bad, the production is bad, the music video is bad, their outfits were extremely mediocre. It’s just a bad song, if it was a parody it would be fine, but as a song it’s just trash. The reason this song and debut was bad was because they didn’t actually want to release music. They just wanted to be labeled as kpop idols. These people aren’t artist and they aren’t singers. To release kpop is pretty simple, just write a good song and sing it in Korean. It’s pretty simple but it requires you to actually want to make music and develop your skills enough to do so. That is why KAACHI is never going to be a kpop group.
Actual facts though
I agree with a whole lot of what you said, but not the bit about "just write a good song and sing it in Korean", because that's not what kpop stands for. Kpop does not refer to simply songs made in Korean language, because there are thousands of songs sung in Korean composed by Koreans, that are not kpop songs. They are songs made by ordinary Korean artists, composers and content creators. You know, trot songs, indie songs, classical songs, rock songs, you name it. Kpop (Korean popular music) stands for songs that are made within the kpop industry. The industry, aka a network of thousands of entertainment agencies, is what creates thousands of songs that have technically nothing in common in terms of style, vibe, genre, aesthetic or sometimes even language, but they are all kpop songs because they are made by people who work in kpop companies (aka kpop idols or the kpop composers behind the scenes). So therefore it's not quite as simple as just writing a song in Korean, you need to enter the industry itself to be called a kpop artist, and then receive training to be called a kpop idol specifically. That industry works to promote Korean products, language, people, culture and companies and because of that, is so carefully manufacturing the traineeship programs. But if you're outside of that industry and have zero ties to it, the music you produce (good or bad, skillful or untalented, Korean or not) cannot be called kpop by definition.
idk why they couldn't have just tried to debut as a western girl group like little mix or fifth harmony, they could have probably been more successful that way and faced less backlash
Yeah. Maybe they enjoy "attention" they get from the hate. They could've stayed and formed their group in the western.
3uphoria EXACTLY
@@eirhra agreed, plus there's just no market for them - they won't make it in the british music industry and they certainly won't make it in the korean one either.
TRUE!
Hi Hi As well as some others like the spice girls and fifth harmony but standards are higher in Korea I feel like
Kaachi: debuted for 3 to 4 months.
Idols and trainees trained for years:
aRe yOu SeRiOuS?
@seungmin`s building Jihyo trained for 10 years: then who do you think I am?!?!
"am I a joke to you?"
Jennie a trainee for 6 years: Get your ass out of the industry!!!
But guanlin ex Wanna one traineed for 3 months tho but he joined Produce 101 season 2 for 3 months and he debuted ! But he definetly has the 'aura' ! He is professional too (btw sorry for my bad english :") )
@seungmin`s building seunghun CIX trained for 10 years!!
“I am like the Hwasa from Mamamoo of KAACHI”
you’re not same level as Hwasa 😒
It was Miso who said that and she never debuted with KAACHI, don't say stuff you don't know
@@yohann_kpopfan3943 she said it stupid
@@bliss6426 she meant her role in KAACHI was the same as Hwa Sa in MAMAMOO. But as I said she had left before the group's debut and was replaced by Coco.
I’m having a hard time listening while watching SF9’s fine asses dancing in the background
What do they think the k in kpop stood for kaucasion?
Aesthetic Kook 💀💀💀
stans for kaachi HAHHAHS
this made me LAUGH
it stands for the fandom name "koochi" 💀💀
LMAO 😹
Honestly, letting groups like this debut is just plain disrespectful towards all those hardworking trainees who spends years training to become an idol and even then might not even make it.
i agree, there is so much kpop groups that have so much potential and have trained for years, but get barely any recognition.
ba_Nana so true ://
Especially the half Korean trainees!! ESPECIALLY THE HALF KOREAN TRAINEES! Okay, I had to get this off my chest.
0Latasha! Let it all out. I feel your frustration ahaha
I agree. I watched their MV just to see what the fuss was about and I was shook. The audacity to even call it Kpop... Like there's nothing about their debut that was up to standard. Not their vocals, not their rapping, not their dancing, not even their image (concept-wise).
They think that they can get away with it by having one Asian girl in the group and they already replaced her twice
I don’t want to spread hate, but I feel like shipping themselves and bullying Jenny was going overboard. They were already being Korea-boo-ish but I thought that they were just aspiring K-pop artists. I didn’t care about that.
But shipping themselves and spreading false rumors are just disgusting and also disrespectful to the other artists. They said that Chunseo went on a date with Kookie but that’s isn’t even true. It’s just weird and bullying Jenny, who they probably copied, is crossing the line.
OMG gurl it's just a rumor! I can't believe that y'all believe it so much. I can't with yall
_txe cups wait really? If they’re really just rumors than I’m sorry. I should have researched more before commenting.
@@shirleyf9728 I understand but please delete all the hurtful comments you have said (if there's any more).
When I watch they're dancing to Blackpink as it's if your last, I was like: Down more/ More Feeling./ More swag, more swag/ I tell you to smile, why you don't smile.
HAHAHAJAHJAHA samee
Lisa 🖤💖
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LMAO THIS IS GOLD
They could've just debuted and made songs in whatever language they want to.
Why call themselves kpop?
Actually the western music listener is missing girl groups. And girl groups who dance!
If they didn't label themselves as kpop, they might have had a better chance
Yeah that's not what it is. If they made a Korean song they would still get hate... people's problem is not that they called themselves Kpop....it's because of the whole Jennie situation...if that would not have surfaces...that would not be the case. People just found something to hate on and ran with it. Calling themselves kpop...(which is valid because kpop means korean pop...it's about the genre)...is not the issue. People don't just get major hate all of a sudden. There's a level of jealousy and hate towards anyone who tried to make kpop songs who are not from Korea...or non koreans.
I do agree with this fact. a group based in London from London calls themselves a "kpop-group" I cannot - ☠️
Exactly
I'm sorry but why is everybody using the term western. Because when I think western I think America and not England.
@@kittenstamales6219 because England is western too
this literally needs to be shown to everyone NOW
How are they “K-Pop” when they barely speak the Korean Language? I think it is offensive to trainees who are working they butt off to get where they are. Those girls never even trained at all. They aren’t K-Pop.
Chunseo ain’t even korean tf. Why she change her name
Jimins Flees Her names Ruth. Who’d wanna be named Ruth? Full offence if your name is Ruth
Something That bit I can’t answer
Something Yeah like she could’ve just done something simple that wasn’t Korean and all that but like. Who likes a band and goes ‘oh my bias is Ruth’ like I swear I’m not excusing using a Korean name I just absolutely hate the name Ruth
青地咲良 you didn’t lie,Ruth ain’t a pleasing name🤣🤣
Jimins Flees Most Ruths I knew when I lived in England were twats and wore that makeup you see in memes about English girls
The lack of talent is the most offensive to me. They're not in the same league as Korean rookie groups. Look at newbies like Cignature and Craxy...there's just no comparison. Don't even get me started on the male rookies.
Yes male rookies so better than kaachi
Lauren they’re dancing isn’t even in sync......
Lauren they didnt even train enough.. if they did i would like them way more, i don’t like them and im pretty sure they’ll disband soon and not to be rude but, i kind of despise them, they couldve just been a pop group not a kpop group
This is my opinion pls do not come after me and I apologize if my opinion offends you. Them saying they’re a mix between kpop and western music seems like a lame excuse to say we’re trying to be kpop but we’d just suck if we were a full kpop group. Like it’s kinda an insult to kpop. Kpop has standards and if you can’t really fulfill those standards don’t call yourself a kpop halfer. It just makes them sound lazy. Like if they just said they were kpop inspired than that seems more respectful and sensible saying/ implying we’re not kpop but we do things similar to kpop.
@@whatislife4899 yess i agree. Like I don't understand why are they called "kpop" group in the first place!
people seem to be supporting the groups only korean member Coco and telling her she should go to korea and join a more legitimate group, but she’s arguably one of the if not the weakest member of her already weak group, people are only supporting her because of her korean heritage and hating all the other members which already shows how groups involving people other than east asians are bound to doom even if they have talent (which kaachi doesn’t even have a lot of in the first place) the only non East Asian kpop idol to actually get any support is Lana, but not only did it take her a long time to get that support, she also actually has a fair amount of talent and is improving. kaachi not so much
The compony should've done a better job with them
i just watched kkachi’s video and it feels like coco is like the token asian. she didn’t have a presence in the video at all, although i did find myself looking forward to a verse from her. also, their dancing didn’t make me want to dance along to their dance and their energy wasn’t great. i know acting isn’t part of the package, but if you’re gonna do it, commit. in the video, it legit looks like they had no good takes of that phone call scene, so they ran with the one with the least mistakes, which is mediocre, at best. I can’t say that they are horrible, as this is the first of (possibly?) a new wave of pop to emerge, so they don’t have their own style or anything of their own, frankly. i wish that they wouldn’t call it kpop because they should try to gain respect by building a new community for a new genre, rather than piggybacking off of the trials and tribulations of an already established genre. find your own market and audience and work the shit out of it.
me: mom, can i go to twice's concert
mom: no, we have a girl group at home
the girl group at home:
Yep, comment of the day
LMFAO THIS COMMENT>
You left the whole squad laughing.
i stan this comment
A G so funny ayy ha ha ㅋㅋㅋ
well, i guess they can be a kpop inspired group, not exactly a kpop group. here in the philippines,(which is "p-pop")we have a group called sb19, where they we're trained by some trainers based in korea. they don't even consider themselves kpop group and they make songs in our language, and they are hella talented and skilled.
hizuki _ waa I’m not from the Philippines (I’m from New Zealand) and as soon as I saw sb19 I freaked I love them ‼︎
@@evelynmcfarlane915 nice! i love them too! they're hella talented and as a filipino myself im proud other countries adore our music. thanks! :DD
Facts, I think that Katchi should have AT LEAST formed themselves as a pop group INFLUENCED by k-pop
i'm filipino and i think sb19 is nice 😊
Yes sb19 is a. Great example they make music in their native language and don't call themselves a kpop group kaachi might be more successful as a western pop group
They stirring up so much drama and they haven't even debuted for a month. When that girl said that she was like Hwasa I got so triggered lmao
One of the best takes on the whole Kaachi issue. Sincere & thoughtful. Subscribed!
That chunseo girl even shipped herself with jungkook like wth?
Edit: Why would she ship herself with jk when she had no interaction with him, that's weird af
I feel so bad for Jungkook
@@sx.pistols same
Charlie Puss that pfp is our faces
thats a no no
What is k-boo?
The fact that one member shipped herself with jungkook, mocked jennie and compared herself with Hwasa. I-
Sweetie u r done even before u entered the industry u messed with the wrong idols...
So what if she shipped herself with JK. How is that a problem?
Exactly
@Javee Oh honey it’s a big problem. Toxic ARMYs would probably hunt them down-
@@lili-yo6iv Toxic Army isn't going to do nothing but pop shit while hiding behind their computers and smartphones. Everybody so brave when there's anonymity but wouldn't say shit if face to face with you.
Exactly what I thought
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I hope people don’t see the fact that western people want to enter the kpop industry as a bad thing. As long as you actually know the language, are in a group with Koreans, and put as much effort into it (it’s it’s what you really desire) it shouldn’t be a problem. Kacchi in my opinion is just making people who actually want to make it into the industry look bad, it’s always the international fans that have a problem with that fact, most natives (according to the research I’ve done) don’t care.
Yes there are some individuals who have been ready to sacrifice their time and energy and money to learn Korean and sign a contract with a kpop company and complete their traineeship program and we should congratulate them for their hard work. But I don't really see why a Korean-made music industry that seeks to provide opportunities for Korean people/language/products/companies/culture to get worldwide recognition and representation, should be opening its doors to random, 100% foreigner white people who have huge ass industries in their own countries waiting for them. I mean why would they even WANT to enter the one and only music industry that isn't established by or for them, especially if it's extremely competitive and has unhealthy standards? If they want to sing in Korean, they can. If they want to imitate the trends, genres and styles that they think originated from kpop (but didn't actually), they can. They can do a whole lot without outright trying to claim a word that by definition does not describe them, because the word kpop idol only refers to a person who has been officially trained within the kpop industry. So although I don't think white people entering the kpop industry is a downright bad thing, I think they for sure shouldn't be a priority here, at least not before Koreans themselves are widely represented within the industry (right now they only accept ethnically Korean Koreans, skinny & able-bodied Koreans, traditionally attractive Koreans, etc....).
*a true k-pop group have personality, a hard-working, and trained*
Why do KAACHI claims that they are K-idols? Lol while this Filipino boy group SB19 trained by a Korean Ent doesn't claim that they are k-idols and they're only kpop inspired.
Why Not? It really doesn't matter
PREACH
Meata Letoo kaachi isn’t a kpop group because they don’t match any standards that kpop groups do, I get that they don’t have enough training but YoHan from X1 didn’t either. They are just a normal western group that are fans of kpop.
@@jiakim2004 whether or whether not they are a kpop group is entirely subjective. If they say they are then they are, and if you're objected to this move along and forget about it stop spreading useless hate.
I would even think that oli London is better🤣
We should literally stop giving them attention cuz negative attention is gonna make them real famous
tabassum khan agreed
Yeah that's what came to my mind when my friends told me about them.
Their MV reached 700k+ views because of curiosity of the hate/mockery that is spreading right now on different social media sites. I'm one of the that curious person who doesn't really know that they even existed as a group.
Ya 😬
Exactly what I was thinking
They literally attacking army and blinks...and they think they can just went off like that?!?! HAH! Nooooooo
shin yuna not to mention STAYS
@@camib9325 ikr...they think they're soo cool/popular....but actually they're just a normal fan girls who call themselves "kpop"
I feel like their goal shouldn't be becoming a "Westerner kpoper", it could be just becoming an idol. With proper training and skill and not advertising as a kpop group, just as an idol group.
They could do something like True Damage (it's a fiction band) were they mixed Korean and English because one of the (fake) members is Korean. Just idols, not kpop idols.
Idol within the context of kpop refers to the training procedure kpop idols receive, so it's like a title that you can earn only through arduous hard work and a very specific manufacturing process. So people can't be idols if they haven't been trained within the kpop industry similarly to how a doctor cannot be a doctor without graduating from med school and getting a license. The word idol in the western (or English) context refers to just a person who people look up to or admire, and it's not a job on its own. Like my grandma could be my idol, if you know what I mean. So I guess these girls could call themselves a group of performers / entertainers / singers, or, if they participate in the creative process in any meaningful way, maybe artists.
@@luskaneseprince Exactly, if s company wants to make a Westerner kpop group they need to stop trying to copy kpop culture and copy the harsh training they receive, my original comment didn't get that across very well, English isn't my first language sorry
Honestly they should promote as a UK group or a dancing group. They can’t even speak korean
Besides the Asian girl
Little mix are talented, they could just make a kpop influenced group.
@嘘だNagito we never said it was wrong to do that at least
I agree. Should have just done videos in Korean or did concerts there as a western girl group...
Speaking on behalf of brits we dont want them
They wouldve been better off trying to be like zpop (like zgirls and zboys) which is the kpop formula in training/performance but they sing in english and have non korean members because they dont market themselves as kpop
The problem with that is zpop only chooses members from asia bcs their motto is one Asia . They choose members from Asian countries who are discriminated against in Korea like veitnam and Indonesia and market them to a western audience to highlight the talent countries other than China and Korea have . So yeah kaachi will never be a zpop group bcs zpop is much more than what ever kaachi is trying to do .
No, in Z-pop all members are Asians so I don't think they would fit in . And also they are way more talented .
you can't be in zpop if you aren't from Asia
Zpop only chooses asian people like Indian people or people from Vietnam
Zpop is a lot better than this
she should have said “‘my role is like hwasa’s from mamamoo’s role” instead of “i am like hwasa from mamamoo” cuz these twoo sentences are super different
Here’s my opinion: Westerners COULD be good at kpop only if they trained hard enough. If Kaachi would’ve trained like kpop idols, they probably could’ve made it somewhere, but since they didn’t train, that’s why they’re a train wreck.
akajalenn YES
Because this isn’t a western industry. They need to try harder to break into Kpop. This isn’t going to be easy, since they made many mistakes, but it’s possible.
Kevin Contreras Thank you for replying! I agree! I just think with lots of practice, Westerners CAN become apart of kpop :’)
akajalenn You made me happy to find someone who doesn’t blindly hate them. They tried to break into an industry and weren’t prepared. Thanks for being a decent human being.
Kevin Contreras thank you💛
akajalenn it’s still messed up since their invading a minority’s space that’s finally getting recognition while they can just as easily stayed in the western music industry
they're fandom name is koochie. wth (also someone in the group compared herself with hwasa and someone in the group ships herself alot with jk , also made a ship name) I mean if u like kpop sure but ur not Korean, maybe become a pop group? also this is highly kboo
koochie....they named their fandom after a woman's geni- ykw nevermind
@@riya.22 idk I think she left the group
@@Something-lp5ex I'm Hispanic and yeah I like Korean culture but changing my name and everything to be Korean is not it gurl
ZA E exactlyy like who are they to judge an actual idol
How dare she tried to ship herself with JK 😒 She’ll never be good enough for him. Is this new group trying to take over the KPOP industry? They r such a bad people.
“it’s a whole group of female olí london’s what can go wrong” is what they think... 👁👄👁
They're friends with Oli soooooo what can ya expect
@@leeza_2609 oh my my my ARMYS do share a brain cell😂 hi fi buddy✌💜💜
Hmmm I also don't know i-
They have the same company as oli london
Lol, its a group of travs everything is gonna go wrong
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i’m late to this video but i want to say that you are very well spoken! you detail your thoughts and ideas clearly and structured them in a way that wasn’t terribly harmful to anyone. you gave your honest and constructive criticism in a way that seemed like a mediator would during debate and it honestly helped me realize WHY im uncomfortable with kaachi’s debut and i appreciate that :)
great video!
I bet they google translated the Korean parts in their song 😳
That just cracked me up 😂😂
LMAOOJFJSJKDA
LMAO 😂
You need more likes HAHAHAHAH 🤣
Even Korean don't know what they singing
i yelled DONT EVEN COMPARE YOURSELF TO HWASA lmaooo
Mood
the audacity-
Kay lol
Amen sis
Kamri Phelps the audacity 💀💀💀
This video is really well thought out, fair and logical, and I agree with everything you say. Well done!
You doing a wonderful job out there promoting our kings!!✨✨✨
Theres a group called sb19 in the Philippines they were trained by koreans and their producers were korean too but they never said they were a kpop group plus KAACHI's debut song is like 80% english
FINALLY! someone said it 💖 this is 101% TRUE! SB19 is being managed by (1) korean managing and staff, (2) they are trained in korea and also they have korean mentors, (3) they also have korean lessons and is aware of the korean culture. But did they claim themselves Kpop artists?? NO. They still consider themselves as P-Pop artists or Philippine Pop Idols.
SHITBOYS19
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@@rword6118 I dont even know sb19 but they have more talent than you. Troll off hater.
then whats the point of learning korean and using korean words? instead of being western and filipino groups it seems more like they’re trying to join the kpop industry but playing it off like they’re actually not.
I honestly don't mind other races other than Asian in K-pop as long as they go through what Korean trainees go through, learn the language, respect and learn of the culture, and still remember that they are NOT Korean/Asian and never will be. It has been done before, even though it doesn't last long. But, take my opinion with a grain of salt, as I am not Asian, what really matters is what Korean folks think of non-asians in K-pop.
They probably debuted to see there oppas because they could have debuted in other stuff
I think whats funny is that only kpop fans who are born in the west have an issue with this. If you ask koreans they really don't care as long as you can sing and dance. They find it fascinating and interesting and it becomes a point of interest, which is why naturally companies will keep on trying to bring non-asians into Korea to promote. Tbh ive mostly seen ppl hate on other ppl coming in when they're white. Otherwise, other attempts by fellow poc is overall accepted and encouraged. You can judge that as how you see fit lol
@@koshira1977 What about Darker people's opinions not just white peoples, And you cant speak for the whole of korea right
@@oldmanjin3040 okay well I was just giving my opinion/response to the comment/overall video, if another person wants to give their response as fellow poc or otherwise, they can go right ahead. I am also poc, and just said what I thought. No, I can't speak for all of Korea nor was I trying to. I have many korean friends, some people who work in this industry and I've asked them about this issue many times. There are also many videos online where people do interviews with Koreans and ask them what they think about groups like EXP or acts like Lana etc etc. My response was based on the observations I made from both of those things/experiences. If you disagree, that's okay. I was just giving my two cents.
@@koshira1977 lol that's a really uneducated statement to make. korea is known for its rampant and normalized racism against literally everyone except white and korean people. they may be "fascinated" with foreigners like lisa, but they have no real respect for them. whether or not there are foreigners in kpop groups today, the korean public does not respect them. companies bring in foreigners to cater to the widening WESTERN audience so that there are members who can speak other languages, but companies often give them the worst treatment and foreigners are often picked apart by korean netizens more, for example blackpink lisa, sana from twice. "other attempts by fellow poc are encouraged" is just simply an untrue statement. and the only modicum of truth in that statement see darker skinned poc as a spectacle or interesting show, not a respected idol. there is still extreme prejudice against darker skinned people and netizens shame idols for being too dark. there hasn't been a single kpop idol in the mainstream who is neither asian nor white.
the reason there is such criticism around white idols like lana and kaachi is because they are simply accepted by the korean public because they are white. they rarely have to go through the same grueling treatment as poc or even korean idols, and are accepted by both korean and international fans because they are relatable (see nina from nizi, somi from p101). in the case of lana and kaachi, people just think they have no talent and got in because of their race, and i can see why they would think that. in my personal opinion as an actual korean person, kpop should be left to asian poc to succeed in, because they have been left in the shadows for way too long in the western spotlight.
btw you made me stan sf9 with those dance practice videos
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Such a nice speak and voice thank you for your opinion and knowledge it was helpful.
With groups like these, I don’t mind their races. It’s ok to have non Asians in Kpop.what annoyed me is that they debut without proper training and lack of skill. Some of them could be much better with training. If Kaachi members had training they maybe wouldn’t have had such backlash.
수회민 i feel like if you are gonna make a “Kpop” group, don’t have more foreigners then actual Asian. It feels more like a another American pop group
•hoseok• Honestly it doesn’t really care if the group consists of non-asian members, as long as they speak korean well and have the skills imo
Shin ae yeah that too. And respect the culture
@@shinae789 if you want to have a group with no koreans, there's no point in calling it korean pop then.
tikitaka then what about the kpop groups with japanese or chinese members? I just meant that it isn’t a huge deal if the group also consists of non-asians, as long as they respect the culture, are able to speak the language and have the recuired skills
I never really liked Kaachi before they "debuted" or whatever because, one kpop was made for Asians because in western areas it hard for them to make music so they made something for them only, second they talked bad about Blackpink Jennie and made it worse by saying they like her and thats their bias and lastly the 3 other members try so hard to be, and act Korean. The whole thing is Cringey and a MESS
Crack Head It’s so true! It’s like now that Korean music is getting famous western music now wants to do the same. Like Kpop is it’s own thing that’s why it’s good and unique. This whole thing is like culture appropriation.
Bruh kpop wasn't made for asians representation lmao. Kpop doesn't exist for the west.
Where can I find the link for that please.....
Kathleen Beck it kinda was though...
@@mee106 no. It was made for Koreans, not Americans. Every country has their own music, not just Korea, and the west isn't the only place musicians can be successful. It's ignorant as fuck to ignore the history of Kpop and act as though the world revolves around America.
This was a great video and it was planned and orchestrated in a very clear,objective and organised manner. It discussed some toxic things within kpop as a whole in a kind way any yeah, well done!
that short sf9 choreo clip might just make me a stan and im not mad
ok i was TRYING to concentrate, but sf9 just-
I WAS SINGIN O SOLE MIO I-
SAME 😂
Finally people that have good taste 💕💕 STAN SF9 💜
Lmao same stan SF9 🤩✨
seriously same lol
I was too distracted by sf9,,,, but I agree with everything u said 🥺😂
Pretty much same boo😔✊🖤
same
Meet too
i was lowkey more focused on sf9 but that’s besides the point i DEFINITELY didnt almost become someone who stans sf9 idk what you’re talking about
Thank you for this video. It made me open my mind yes a bit more.
They called Jennie 'lazy', without knowing Jennie was trained for years and they are don't.
but that's not Kaachi that the man behind the camera i think
@〖SweetxCupcxke〗 ツ oooo really ? no your english is good tho
@〖SweetxCupcxke〗 ツ I might not stan BP BUT THIS!? OUTRAGEOUS!
〖SweetxCupcxke〗 ツ yeah I heard of that but where’s the original video?
@〖SweetxCupcxke〗 ツ That's not what happened: The girls were doing a cover dance of different songs with different styles. One of those styles was "lazy" so they started to dance with laziness, and the dude behind the camera laughed and said "like Jennie from Blackpink". It wasn't their fault.
And they had the audacity to dance to blackpink songs after mocking our Jennie:(
Edit: Thank you for 600+ likes🤧🥰❣
I'm not a blink but jennie dosen't deserve to be mocked by KAACHI
@@aiyenolobia2179 ikr
Aiyen Olobia no one deserves to be mocked by them :((
@@violetissleepy I agree:(
@Chloe Ha ikr and shes been training for years😔
loved this video, you gave a lot of good points in my opinion.
This video has a really good opinion, a mature, civil and respectful opinión. You did a really good job
Z-boys and Z-girls, with an all Asian members, based in Korea and handle by a Korean company don't even call themselves a kpop group because they don't sing in Korean although that might change in the future. For now they're a kpop inspired group.
true.i agree
they got brains but this Kaachi koochie doesnt
@@kimlippu5017 lol I whizzed 😂😂😂 kaachi koochie😂
And those guys & girls are actually good compared to kaachi
y'all should checkout SB19 - kpop inspired, Philippines based group...Kpop style but they mix Filipino language and English instead of Korean and they are pretty damn good!
Imagine stanning them and saying to people "I'm a Koochi!"-
Non kpop fans would think ur crazy-
*-imaaaaaaaaaaagine-*
I already did and I hate it already
They already reported that Koochi isn't the fandom name, someone made that up. But fr imagine
@Ganesh Singh yup you're right 👌
That’s what I’m trying to say
thanks for promoting my babies sf9 good guy choreography video
You srsly need more sub, your content is so good!
Kpop is for Asians or even mixed only. I don’t understand why Simon Cowell thought this was a good idea when three of the members don’t even look Asian, much less Korean.
I’m pretty sure the 3 members who dont look asian arent even asian 😳 but idk if its true i havent done that much research on them
Wait so I’m not allowed to listen to Kpop or if someone non-Asian wants to become an idol they can’t? (This is just a question. I don’t like Kachi for a list of reasons. I am fully aware of the how hard it is to become an idol as well. I gots mad respect for them)
Something I can’t name one
I'm lost , can someone help me ;-;
ikr theyre just straight up koreaboos...lisa from blackpink gets hate because she isnt korean but think about this group,they are gonna get so much hate and im one of them 😬
Let’s just completely ignore the fact that they’re a “western kpop group” for a second. I know it’s hard but just do it . Now think about their song overall . The song is nothing special , it’s really basic , their vocals are average. They’re not doing anything that hasn’t been seen before except for the fact that they’re not Asian . So calling themselves a “k pop group” just seems like an insult to real k pop artists who worked really hard to get where they are and are still working hard to stay where they are. Basically if you look at it their whole brand is just : “ Hey we’re not all Asian so we’re different “ I’m sorry but somebody had to say it.
Edit: i see a lot od people in the replys talking about accepting other races into k pop so I just wanted to add I don’t mind non Koreans in k pop but they have to at least speak the language and understand it, because what’s the point if you don’t even know what are you singing ,but most of their song is in English so I don’t consider it to be k pop . And also you should know at least a little bit of the Korean culture , but need I remind you their company is not even in Korea.
THIS NEEDS MORE ATTENTION 😤😤
・Cremsei ・ there is a group like that already called Z- girls and Z-boys. They are skilled in some aspects but things can improve. They don’t receive much attention either
Jeon MiShy yess but z-stars deserve more attention!
Say that louder for the people in the back
@@ll-nf1sq no because its how they get money so easy but i prefer real artists like HER
You got me at first, but yeah, Thank you for this video
This video was so good! I have watched so many kaachi videos that spread misinformation and are toxic. I’m so happy I found this video where you don’t do that!
everyone: talking about kaachi
me:focusing on SF9 and got distracted forgot the video was about KAACHI
holy_jiminie _jams ohh I thought it was a SF9 dance practice compilation oops 🙊😂🙈
imagine going up to your mom and saying “i’m a koochie” ......
Courtney Livingstone
THANK YOU
I THINK THE HELL NOT
LMAO
I can hear her now "You're a what"
May i ask what koochie means? hehehehehe
I searched what koochie means and it says that its a slang for vagina or something lol
@@seya8322 owwww. Thank uuuuu
I CHOKED. Actually my mom saw their MV and the reaction wasn't good. We were 😬😧 the whole time.
my biggest problem with it is that idols have trained up to like,,,, eight years or sumn like that and it's really really intense training. it's not just industry standards that aren't being met, it's the dedication and effort that they're lacking.