@@juanbonola9423 He’s saying Marlo developed sentimental value of the ring after it was stolen. It reminded him of the time Omar bested him. Meant more than just any ring at the point.
@@ANIMALMUPPET29 Nah. The ring doesn't mean anything to Marlo. That's why he let Michael keep it. It's the disrespect of Omar taking his money and his ring that Marlo couldn't stand. Marlo was all about his rep and that made him look weak. Sentiment was never Marlo's weakness. Pride was though.
You can buy rings and the person who buys it IS the owner. You can't buy money. Therefore money has no owners. Only spenders. Thats the point. The fact that you have so many thumbs up shows how ignorant people were when it came to this amazing show.
This video clearly shows you how to rob a card game. All you have to do is: -not kill the dealer -not shoot at the gangsters gambling -not depend on an unreliable getaway driver -not plead for your life if you get caught -not do the robbery high on meth
And right after this clip ends he offers it to Marlo, who declines. He showed he knew who was boss and he got to keep the spoils even though Michael had no idea Marlo wore it at one point
@@ximbabwe0228 Makes ya think that if the first guy had just replied "Why you want it?" Instead of "yeah" He may still be the owner of the ring. Or Snoop would have it once he was bodied.
You know why? Because all the fans KEEP COMING BACK for another fix of this highly ADDICTIVE show. I'm 13 years in to this, seen all of it 2 times and still I look around for videos like this one. The Wire is JUST THAT GREAT. No algorithm needed.
It's the community that this show had long before social media became a standard like it is now...algorithm or not, it's good to look back on these old gems with new eyes, minds, or even people
I hated that shit. They robbed that man of his ring without even putting a gun to his head. Then ask him for help which we all know what their version of "help" means.
Marlo stole it from old face andre who then get it stolen by omar who then got it stolen by officer walker who then got it stolen by Mike. Thats some lord of the rings type of shit there
Any poker fans notice that marlo has a full house and then Omar says his four 5s (as in .45 caliber guns) beat a full house? Just a genius line pure and simple. RIP to a legend.
nah thats not what they thought, they thought michael had the ability to morph himself into any shape or form and that he used that power to commit heinous crimes. they thought michael had morphed into the body of omar and then robbed marlo at the card game. they didnt voice their suspicion tho out of fear of looking stupid if their guess was wrong so they let it slide
Marlo: "I'll find out for you..." Andre: "You dont have to.." Marlo: " *I'll find out for you* ...." A few episodes later... Omar: "I like that rang tew..." Marlo: 😑 Omar: "Boy you got me confused for a man who repeats himself..." 🤣
Based on this scene, I'd say it makes Marlo respect Michael more than he already did, based on the look of understanding that passes between him and Chris. When you think about it, none of these exchanges are really about the ring itself, they're about power and status within this society. Marlo may have said he's "not much for sentiment", but I don't think cared about taking the ring as part of what he was owed, especially since he uses coded language to coerce fat-face rick into giving him the ring (is that who that is? it's been a while). He doesn't say "give me the ring, that'll pay down your debt some", he implies, "I have power over you, I'm stronger than you, give me the ring". Then you have Omar taking it; Marlo doesn't really look like he's afraid of getting shot, and I doubt he cares that much about losing the money, since he has so much already; he just doesn't like being weak. With Walker it's also not really about the ring itself, by then we already know him as a violent bully who loves abusing his position of authority. By taking it, he's affirming "i'm better than these criminals; I have power over them". I think this also explains why Namond reacts the way he does, and illustrates the key difference between him and Mike: Namond is playing at being a tough, ruthless corner boy/thug, but Mike actually is. Namond was happy to harmlessly toss paint on Walker from behind a mask, but wouldn't try to assert his own power/influence, since he doesn't have much; it's his father's name that's gotten him where he is. For Mike, though, it would be crazy NOT to take the ring, since the exchange to him wasn't about a simple prank, it was about power, telling walker: "you can fuck with us and break our fingers, and THINK you have power, but these are our streets, and you don't. Weird, that kinda turned into an english paper before I realized it. Hope someone enjoys reading this at least. - u/MazzyStarsoftheLid's comment from Reddit
Solid explanation IMO... It was cut short above, but Michael also asked Marlo if he wanted the ring - to which Marlo replied "nah, you keep it"... It was a great move by Michael as he gained respect two-fold here by first having that ring, to begin with, then by offering it to Marlo, the Boss, because he liked it (Michael showing Marlo respect, but not out of fear)... Marlo deserves some respect too considering he didn't want the ring that way and believed Michael was now the true owner of that ring based on your above explination.
Marlo: need some help? Chris: yeah, need some help? That makes me laugh every single time. There weren't a lot of times where Marlo and Chris had a sense of humor about anything, the only time they even smiled were around each other and Snoop.
I just started watching The Sopranos and I’m having a hard time taking that show seriously when the villain for the first two seasons is his manipulative mother. It’s also hard to get into that show when most of the characters have no redeeming qualities outside of saying “AYYY!!!” Or “Gabbagool”. It’s also hard trying to get into that show when most of Tony’s goons and the FBI act like they just started their day jobs. Tony shooting and killing people and he’s still walking free and it took the FBI until season 3 to finally get a wife in Tony’s house.
@@steverogers7601 I think you are short-changing it. Sops doesn't have the large message that Wire does, but the characters are every bit as complex and multi-dimensional. Saying Livia was the villain of Sopranos when Tony had to deal with hits and FBI informants is a little flippant. I think a big part of the problem you're having is that I don't think the mob portrayed in Sopranos is nowhere near as powerful as the mob of the 90s was. And, partly, the point that whites can afford to be more blatant in their crimes while blacks have to be more clever is a theme in The Wire: see season 2.
Left out one of the best parts at the end where Michael freely offers it back to Marlo, but Marlo declines. He has free reign to take whatever he wants, but recognizes Michael earned it.
Marlo is an interesting case. He does so much to protect his ego (ex: killing the security guard after losing the poker game) that his interactions with Mike leave you with a couple different interpretations (ex: refusing the money, letting him keep the ring)
Agreed! I thought that scene was cold AF with regard to Marlo turning down the ring in that now he's the "Brutha' that got his sh*t took" and in his head the law of the street applies to him too "if you can take it from me then it is yours" (a weird kind of a pride thing)
@@ShiddyKong I love how in their first interaction, michael wouldn’t take his money and Marlo calls him a punk for it. Michael stares him down and Marlo calls him “shorty” and says there’s no problem. then the ring scene comes up and Marlo sees the ring Omar stole from him, asks Mike where he got it from, and Mike just says “I took it from a nigga. why u want it?”. Marlo, again, says “nah you keep it shorty”. Definitely got his ego put in check both times
True, but it also shows how cold he was. He planned, took what he wanted, and stuck to his own script. It was actually smart not really killing people. Yeah, he felt the heat from dealers when he was locked up or being elusive on the streets, but he really didn't have to worry about police if he didn't kill. He never had to worry about an arrest where the cop says his charge is the theft of 4 G-packs 🥴🤣
To those not understanding why Marlo didn't take the ring from Micheal. Because the ring was just a ring, him taking it from Andre not because he 'wanted a ring,' but as a show of his dominance, same reason he stole candy. When he sees Micheal has it, he thinks this guy was able to get the ring from Omar (or so he thinks). And he can see he has something more valuable than the ring, he has Micheal.
Marlo took the ring from Old Face Andre because Marlo noticed that Omar would of took the ring along with the dope(which Omar eventually does from Marlo). Andre's ring was protected better than Marlo's dope in Marlo's eyes. When Omar came in the store, Andre hid the ring from Omar but gave Omar the dope.
I think the ring symbolizes the gift and curse of Power. Its shows how quickly power is gained and lost not only in the streets, but in life. More importantly, everybody's reign is only temporary. Whoever has the power becomes a target for someone else who wants it.
"What's the real value?" "It's been awhile since I checked." "I'll find out for you." "You don't have to" "I'll find out for you." *but more assertively*
Andre was never going survive Marlo's reign with that big mouth of his. Did he really expect it would go like this- "I'll find out for you" "You don't have to" "Oh ok, I'll be off then, have a nice day"
@@raytheonorion its a double entendre. In poker, 4 of a kind beats a full house(imagine playing cards and you have 4 cards with the number 5 on it.) Also, Omar is carrying two .45 caliber pistols. (Self explanatory... you won't win with two guns pointed at you. Also its a house with a bunch of people in it...aka Full House)
@@Cjackson6672 I couldn't see what guns they actually had, but Omar could hypothetically be saying that these four 5s (two 5mm pistols each for him and his boy) beat a full house.
WTF you didn't realize that simple ring, there a ton of little things, with deep meanings in The Wire, and this was pretty big, compared to most of those
It is known as a Mcguffin item. But yes it traded hands many times. The way it worked out, you the fans recognized its history as each pass and pieced the rings history. Good writing for a small thing.
It is a continuity prop, it doesn´t have any meaning perse but what the fans want it to have. The wire had a lot of these small things showing up now and then wich just showed how much work was there behind the cameras.
Should've added the scene of Omar robbing Andre at the shop. Andre turned the ring backwards so Omar wouldn't steal it. The foreshadowing and irony is uncanny
Andre hiding when he knows he's gonna get robbed is a good prologue. Michael giving it away freely but getting to keep it is a good epilogue. The writing on this show was next level.
"Boy you got me confused with a man who repeats himself". "Man money ain't got no owners, only spenders" The Wire have more gangsta lines than any other movie or any show because it was natural not just tough talk for no reason.
Or the time he walks intoto prop Joe's store with a clock and when asked what's wrong with it he says " it ran outta time" then points a desert eagle to his face lol
I don’t think it matters since in Marlo’s eyes, Mike either took it off Omar or someone with enough pull to take it off Omar. Either way, they know Micheal is real.
My friend was at a bar once talking about the wire with a girl. She said she knew more about the show then anyone. He texted me with a question to stump her. I said for him to ask about the chain of custody for this ring throughout season 4. Stumped her
The Ring's arc (and value to a certain extent) was to be taken against the owner's will. When Mike offered the ring to Marlo; there's nothing to be gained except a shiny trinket from an employee.
Mike was the only one who didn't get the ring took from him. He volunteered to give it up. In the end Mike robbed for sport. No real attachment to material things. Genius writing in this show.
What they say when they rob somebody, is so old school. "I like that... I'm'a need that..." The writers on this show made sure all little things sounded just like how OG's really speak.
The ring scenario /metaphor /symbolism if the whole ring incident was just a representation of the streets & violence and what goes around comes around. The Wire is my favorite television show of all time for so many reasons just fucking brilliant!
One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them In the Land of Baltimore where the Gods will not save you.
@@benyaminyisrael4634 Damn I just noticed I repeated myself with a longer quote a few months later. I gotta remember which Wire clips I already watched!
alario insunsa yea they did that’s why Marlo was suprised when he seen it around mikes neck Marlo assumed mike robbed Omar for it for Omar robbing mike for a package which Omar never did rob mike but Marlo assumes this because Omar was robbing all the corners and when mike says “ I took it from a nigga” Marlo only thinks mike took it from the guy that took it from him
@@whoknows7406 exactly. Marlo knew it had circulated through the hood already. If he thought Michael took it from Omar he would have immediately questioned him as to where and how he took it from Omar because he wanted revenge for omar robbing him.
@@KnockSquared exactly, no way in the world they actually thought mike robbed Omar, that plot would be too simple. They knew they had value in mike though
@FoxRcng708 I'm tryna tellem, even if marlo didnt set upOmar, they still wouldn't have thought he took it from him, like someone stated earlier they wouldve grilled mike for info, I took it as they realized shyt in the streets just happens, and Omar got got. This show is too deep to just cop to mike robbin omar
"Yeah man, you need some help?" Lmao, the way Chris's eyes glow when he says that makes it so hilarious. Its like he was there just to deliver that one line like that lol
there's no way marlo could have known walker took the ring off omar and michael took it off walker. marlo 100% thought michael robbed omar, or was just laughing internally about how much this ring changes hands
I have always viewed this little sub story as just icing on the cake. The show is so thorough they can afford to do things like this and its just awesome.
Facts...I think this was the first inkling that he was gonna be a stick up kid like Omar...but the look in Marlo's eyes showed, and further confirmed, this kid had heart and was gonna be a beast in the streets.
At the start of this saga when the ring got took, the person taking it - Marlo, Omar, Walker - did so out of greed. While Michael took it himself from Walker, he was doing it during an act of retribution for a friend - Donut - Walker had harmed, and did it more to humiliate Walker. When Marlo sees the ring again, this time in possession of Michael, Michael does not display any greed for it and freely offers it up to his benefactor. It highlights how Michael's moral character is above the others.
Three Rings for the Natural Police wearing the Blue, Seven for the Stevedores in their ports of steel, Nine for Corners pawns doomed to die, One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne In the Land of Baltimore where the Game is the Game. One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them, In the Land of Baltimore where the Gods will not save you.
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Ring ain't got no owners, only wearers.
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👏👏 good one 😄
Crowns too.
Best comment 🤣🤣🤣
Michael was the last one to have it. He was the Lord of the Ring.
PRECIOUS!!!
@@shawn2004grad lolll that's what Marlo was thinking when he saw it around his neck 😂😂
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Lol he was seduced by the ring into darkness 😁
He the elderstone holder
The Irony of Marlo saying he has no need for the sentimental value of the ring. The ring ends up having sentimental value to Marlo.
Very true
Not even! Marlos just wanted the ring....and he wasnt tryna hear any of that shit!
@@juanbonola9423 He’s saying Marlo developed sentimental value of the ring after it was stolen. It reminded him of the time Omar bested him. Meant more than just any ring at the point.
@@juanbonola9423 When a ring reminds you of a painful moment in life, i would think yeah. that ring does hold sentimental value to marlo
@@ANIMALMUPPET29 Nah. The ring doesn't mean anything to Marlo. That's why he let Michael keep it. It's the disrespect of Omar taking his money and his ring that Marlo couldn't stand. Marlo was all about his rep and that made him look weak. Sentiment was never Marlo's weakness. Pride was though.
Man, rings don't have owners, only wearers.
Snailburg clever posts like this reminds me why I like TH-cam lol
LMAO!
Facts!!! - DJ Facts, Rotten Apple Radio
You can buy rings and the person who buys it IS the owner. You can't buy money. Therefore money has no owners. Only spenders. Thats the point. The fact that you have so many thumbs up shows how ignorant people were when it came to this amazing show.
Jeremy Tucker, the fact that you can’t see the humor in a simple play of words shows that your ignorant, not the few hundred who thumbed up.
"I dunno about cards but I think these 4 5's beat a full house!! coldest line ever
crazy entendre
This video clearly shows you how to rob a card game. All you have to do is:
-not kill the dealer
-not shoot at the gangsters gambling
-not depend on an unreliable getaway driver
-not plead for your life if you get caught
-not do the robbery high on meth
Fuck it lets go down the shore
Could have hit the shore, but gotta do it before the crank wears off
@@sharrodgorum2051 Jackie Jr. had to hide out with Omar and his niece. He taught her to play chess very well.
Haha
“We’re with ralphie” lol
"Boy, you got me confused with a man who repeats himself." - Badass. Gotta love Omar.
BlackHayTV I think he says “with a man that pees himself”
No it's repeats.
boy yuu want a head on that body yuu best hop tuu
BlackHayTV Yep. Omar was a straight-up G to da core! Quoteablez for DAYZ!
@@TheSentinel091482 Nope
0:25 it really sucks that Marlo got the ring stolen before he could find out the real value for his friend
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Lmfaooooooo
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Anyone else binging on The Wire clips since Michael K Williams passing?
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hard.
I binge Wire clips as a lifestyle haha RIP M.K.W tho.
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Since like 3 months before. It was Sopranos before this. Not really sure what's next. Maybe Generation Kill? Oz? Stay tuned to find out
"Man money ain't got no owners, only spenders." The amount of awesome quotes in this show are endless.
thats a lucky luciano quote as well lol
ayWusgod Best show ever, Thad Castle. Loved bms too
Truu bro
Bunk: I'm just a humble motherfucker with a big-ass dick
Lester: You give yourself too much credit
Bunk: Ok then, I ain't all that humble
"U know who got the fat ass n best pussy, midgets nigga" Cheese Wagstaff
Rings ain't got no owners. Only wearers.
Indeed
One ring to rule West Baltimore
MrBlaoblao snoop: how the back of my head look mike
mike: you look good girl (blow)
Fuck all them East side bitches
My precious.
A hundred large, huh?
John Jenks
dam you dumb
"Boy, you got me confused for a man who repeats himself" Omar is such a cowboy.
Grey Sky i always thought that of him especially with thoae coats he wears and that shotgun
Lol i always thought he said you got me confuse with a man who pee's himself!
I ain't much for sentiment.... understatement of the century
LMAO!
bigmarty11288 you think 🤔
“Boy you got me confused with a man who repeats himself” Omar was cold 🥶
I like how Omar comes in and says "let me see them hands" while they're playing poker.
Jermy Hopkisn LoL never thought about that 🤣👌🏾💪🏾
Four fives do beat a full house
Damn never thought bout that
I love how marlo and Chris react to Michael saying he took that ring knowing omar took it from them. They think he took it from omar
Right. I totally overlooked that part.
And right after this clip ends he offers it to Marlo, who declines. He showed he knew who was boss and he got to keep the spoils even though Michael had no idea Marlo wore it at one point
Marlo too afraid to admit omar robbed him they could have asked how you get the drop on omar etc.
...or might suspect Michael knows Omar.
@@ximbabwe0228 Makes ya think that if the first guy had just replied "Why you want it?" Instead of "yeah" He may still be the owner of the ring. Or Snoop would have it once he was bodied.
“You need help?”
Chris is fucking terrifying when he’s being polite.
Chris is fucking terrifying period
He's always polite. The only time where he wasn't polite was with Devar
The wire is majorly going through some TH-cam phases.. All of the clips are like ten years old but every comment is from like a day ago
Damn you right, it's crazy cause I thought it came up organically but it was the algorithm... The future is spooky
You know why? Because all the fans KEEP COMING BACK for another fix of this highly ADDICTIVE show. I'm 13 years in to this, seen all of it 2 times and still I look around for videos like this one.
The Wire is JUST THAT GREAT. No algorithm needed.
It's the community that this show had long before social media became a standard like it is now...algorithm or not, it's good to look back on these old gems with new eyes, minds, or even people
When chris asked if he needed help, he got that ring off real quick🤣
Even Chris offering help is scary
bp it was a joke lol
bp yeah, help break the finger off with the ring attached to it.
Lol. I imagine his help would involve a cleaver, and a stub left for a finger
u need some spit?
I hated that shit. They robbed that man of his ring without even putting a gun to his head. Then ask him for help which we all know what their version of "help" means.
Marlo finally won a game against those dudes and Omar robbed him Lol
Meela234 ...lol
Lol
I loved it! Lol
lmao
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Cop: "The charge is murder"
Omar: "Murder? Who I kill??"
Not the best response when being arrested.
Marlo stole it from old face andre who then get it stolen by omar who then got it stolen by officer walker who then got it stolen by Mike. Thats some lord of the rings type of shit there
Any poker fans notice that marlo has a full house and then Omar says his four 5s (as in .45 caliber guns) beat a full house? Just a genius line pure and simple. RIP to a legend.
I didn’t notice that until now. Great observation
Aye yo i ain’t even peep that some clever ass shit
That ring ain't got no owners, only temporary wearers
Hard to find original comments, good job
I’ll tell you something else I like that money you got
Stolen comment
This show is incredible. I love how a “Ring” has it’s own side story.
"where u get that ring?"
"I took it from a nigga"
- it's just that simple folks
In that order too 💯💯💯 I respect Michael’s gangster
I love how these dudes thought Michael took it from Omar.
Nah they kno he didn’t take it from him .. they was prolly thinking nahhh
nah thats not what they thought, they thought michael had the ability to morph himself into any shape or form and that he used that power to commit heinous crimes. they thought michael had morphed into the body of omar and then robbed marlo at the card game. they didnt voice their suspicion tho out of fear of looking stupid if their guess was wrong so they let it slide
Idk about cards but I think these 4 5’s beat a full house. 🔥🔥🔥 that line was bananas 🥴💪🏾
Someone e was letting marlo win
Omar steals ever scene he is in....no pun intended haha
SurreallTV indeed
BeerDrinkinGod no doubt
BeerDrinkinGod Every*
Scene's ain't got no owners yo, only participators
Marlo: "I'll find out for you..."
Andre: "You dont have to.."
Marlo: " *I'll find out for you* ...."
A few episodes later...
Omar: "I like that rang tew..."
Marlo: 😑
Omar: "Boy you got me confused for a man who repeats himself..."
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For all these years I was still confused if he says "boy you got me confused for a man whose At Peace with himself".
Few episodes later? Didn't Omar stealing the ring happen in the first season?
@@DoctorChained No. Marlo wasn't even in the 1st season for him to take the ring from him
@@StayAlert_StayAlive Man for some reason I felt like the ring robbery was in the first season. I could have sworn. Guess I was wrong. Bad memory
Based on this scene, I'd say it makes Marlo respect Michael more than he already did, based on the look of understanding that passes between him and Chris.
When you think about it, none of these exchanges are really about the ring itself, they're about power and status within this society. Marlo may have said he's "not much for sentiment", but I don't think cared about taking the ring as part of what he was owed, especially since he uses coded language to coerce fat-face rick into giving him the ring (is that who that is? it's been a while). He doesn't say "give me the ring, that'll pay down your debt some", he implies, "I have power over you, I'm stronger than you, give me the ring".
Then you have Omar taking it; Marlo doesn't really look like he's afraid of getting shot, and I doubt he cares that much about losing the money, since he has so much already; he just doesn't like being weak. With Walker it's also not really about the ring itself, by then we already know him as a violent bully who loves abusing his position of authority. By taking it, he's affirming "i'm better than these criminals; I have power over them".
I think this also explains why Namond reacts the way he does, and illustrates the key difference between him and Mike: Namond is playing at being a tough, ruthless corner boy/thug, but Mike actually is. Namond was happy to harmlessly toss paint on Walker from behind a mask, but wouldn't try to assert his own power/influence, since he doesn't have much; it's his father's name that's gotten him where he is. For Mike, though, it would be crazy NOT to take the ring, since the exchange to him wasn't about a simple prank, it was about power, telling walker: "you can fuck with us and break our fingers, and THINK you have power, but these are our streets, and you don't.
Weird, that kinda turned into an english paper before I realized it. Hope someone enjoys reading this at least.
- u/MazzyStarsoftheLid's comment from Reddit
Marlo gained respect for mike because he thinkin mike took it from Omar . Who we all know name hold weight
i would read that buuuuuuuuuut
Good analysis
Solid explanation IMO... It was cut short above, but Michael also asked Marlo if he wanted the ring - to which Marlo replied "nah, you keep it"... It was a great move by Michael as he gained respect two-fold here by first having that ring, to begin with, then by offering it to Marlo, the Boss, because he liked it (Michael showing Marlo respect, but not out of fear)... Marlo deserves some respect too considering he didn't want the ring that way and believed Michael was now the true owner of that ring based on your above explination.
Excellent thesis.
Marlo: need some help?
Chris: yeah, need some help?
That makes me laugh every single time. There weren't a lot of times where Marlo and Chris had a sense of humor about anything, the only time they even smiled were around each other and Snoop.
That's some dark humour you're enjoying lol.
Yea that was gon either break his finger or cut it off
I Know Right! Lol.
“I don’t want the man’s spit” 😂😂😂
That ring is an important detail in the series, it shows no matter who Holdin it the game still goes on. Greed never dies
"The fluctuations of the global economy an all" idk but that line gets me every time 😄
LMFAO 🤣🤣
Michael & Bodie had the most heart on the show imo.
Omar and Marlo
@@kbrooks92 that to lol 💯😂
@@kbrooks92marlo was nun without chris
That’s how you take a card game, Jackie Jr.
Never liked him...
He did it to prove he was like his fawtha
they did meet
I just started watching The Sopranos and I’m having a hard time taking that show seriously when the villain for the first two seasons is his manipulative mother. It’s also hard to get into that show when most of the characters have no redeeming qualities outside of saying “AYYY!!!” Or “Gabbagool”. It’s also hard trying to get into that show when most of Tony’s goons and the FBI act like they just started their day jobs. Tony shooting and killing people and he’s still walking free and it took the FBI until season 3 to finally get a wife in Tony’s house.
@@steverogers7601 I think you are short-changing it. Sops doesn't have the large message that Wire does, but the characters are every bit as complex and multi-dimensional. Saying Livia was the villain of Sopranos when Tony had to deal with hits and FBI informants is a little flippant.
I think a big part of the problem you're having is that I don't think the mob portrayed in Sopranos is nowhere near as powerful as the mob of the 90s was. And, partly, the point that whites can afford to be more blatant in their crimes while blacks have to be more clever is a theme in The Wire: see season 2.
Left out one of the best parts at the end where Michael freely offers it back to Marlo, but Marlo declines. He has free reign to take whatever he wants, but recognizes Michael earned it.
Marlo is an interesting case. He does so much to protect his ego (ex: killing the security guard after losing the poker game) that his interactions with Mike leave you with a couple different interpretations (ex: refusing the money, letting him keep the ring)
Agreed! I thought that scene was cold AF with regard to Marlo turning down the ring in that now he's the "Brutha' that got his sh*t took" and in his head the law of the street applies to him too "if you can take it from me then it is yours" (a weird kind of a pride thing)
@@ShiddyKong I love how in their first interaction, michael wouldn’t take his money and Marlo calls him a punk for it. Michael stares him down and Marlo calls him “shorty” and says there’s no problem. then the ring scene comes up and Marlo sees the ring Omar stole from him, asks Mike where he got it from, and Mike just says “I took it from a nigga. why u want it?”. Marlo, again, says “nah you keep it shorty”.
Definitely got his ego put in check both times
@@ericm9411 top shelf writing
@@ericm9411Knowing who Omar was and what he did to him Marlo had to respect Mike because he thought Mike took the ring from Omar
“It’s not over” Omar should have handled him right then and there
True, but it also shows how cold he was. He planned, took what he wanted, and stuck to his own script. It was actually smart not really killing people. Yeah, he felt the heat from dealers when he was locked up or being elusive on the streets, but he really didn't have to worry about police if he didn't kill. He never had to worry about an arrest where the cop says his charge is the theft of 4 G-packs 🥴🤣
To those not understanding why Marlo didn't take the ring from Micheal. Because the ring was just a ring, him taking it from Andre not because he 'wanted a ring,' but as a show of his dominance, same reason he stole candy. When he sees Micheal has it, he thinks this guy was able to get the ring from Omar (or so he thinks). And he can see he has something more valuable than the ring, he has Micheal.
Robbing the ring off the finger of a cop is just as impressive as taking it from Omar, if not even more impressive.
MiracleWorldTV Omar was a lot more formidable than that punk ass cop.
Marlo took the ring from Old Face Andre because Marlo noticed that Omar would of took the ring along with the dope(which Omar eventually does from Marlo). Andre's ring was protected better than Marlo's dope in Marlo's eyes. When Omar came in the store, Andre hid the ring from Omar but gave Omar the dope.
I think the ring symbolizes the gift and curse of Power. Its shows how quickly power is gained and lost not only in the streets, but in life. More importantly, everybody's reign is only temporary. Whoever has the power becomes a target for someone else who wants it.
Heavy is the head that wears the crown. 😏
Maaan that ring aint got no owners.. only wearers
But Michael didn't wear the ring on his finger.
Exactly
@@frankthetank1369 exactly only 1 who put it on a chain. He was a little dude. Would not fit him.
I wish they’d have done more with the ring. It was my favorite character on the whole show
Lmao
no love for Fuzzy Dunlop??
“You ain’t gone hear the next one” - Mike
That’s how you tell somebody you’ll kill them without telling them you’ll kill them. Mike had bars too lol
"What's the real value?"
"It's been awhile since I checked."
"I'll find out for you."
"You don't have to"
"I'll find out for you." *but more assertively*
Andre was never going survive Marlo's reign with that big mouth of his. Did he really expect it would go like this- "I'll find out for you" "You don't have to" "Oh ok, I'll be off then, have a nice day"
Marlo roasts old face for getting his shit took by Omar, then Omar takes Marlo’s shit. Best show ever
That ring was bad luck for everyone. Michael was the only one that wore it right!
Like Frodo
I mean Michael may be alive at the the end of the show but it wasn’t exactly a happy ending
every dog has their day
"I think these 4-5's beat a full house" 😂😂
I love that line
Please explain it. It's going over my head.
@@raytheonorion its a double entendre. In poker, 4 of a kind beats a full house(imagine playing cards and you have 4 cards with the number 5 on it.) Also, Omar is carrying two .45 caliber pistols. (Self explanatory... you won't win with two guns pointed at you. Also its a house with a bunch of people in it...aka Full House)
@@Cjackson6672 a scholar & a gentleman. Thank you.
@@raytheonorion anytime
@@Cjackson6672 I couldn't see what guns they actually had, but Omar could hypothetically be saying that these four 5s (two 5mm pistols each for him and his boy) beat a full house.
No one wanted to give that ring up but Mike. And he was going to just give it to him. Most solid character of all time
The moment Chris asked "you need help ?" you know that ring better come out quick XD
Lmao
Chris was ready to pull a Mad Max from Shottas on old face Andre🤣
man rings dont got no owners, only wearers
Amazing how this one ring makes for such an intricate story. Shows how detailed and realistic the Wire is
And if you watched the finale, you saw that Michael was the new Omar.
I didnt realize that ring hopped around so much.
same here.
WTF you didn't realize that simple ring, there a ton of little things, with deep meanings in The Wire, and this was pretty big, compared to most of those
It is known as a Mcguffin item.
But yes it traded hands many times. The way it worked out, you the fans recognized its history as each pass and pieced the rings history.
Good writing for a small thing.
Mayank
whats the rings meaning then
It is a continuity prop, it doesn´t have any meaning perse but what the fans want it to have. The wire had a lot of these small things showing up now and then wich just showed how much work was there behind the cameras.
Marlo carefully scans the room, checking faces and reactions to see if its an inside job...................
jstrick31907 woah
The subtlety in the acting from this show is incredible
Marlo thought..."dam shorty had omar at gun point and took his shit...i need him to do it for me one more time."
Should've added the scene of Omar robbing Andre at the shop. Andre turned the ring backwards so Omar wouldn't steal it. The foreshadowing and irony is uncanny
I did but, they made me take it down.
Andre hiding when he knows he's gonna get robbed is a good prologue. Michael giving it away freely but getting to keep it is a good epilogue. The writing on this show was next level.
"I don't know about cards, but I think these .45s beat a Full House" man Omar was droppin bars on everyone's head
money ain't got no owners, only spenders.
“You want it?”
“Naw keep it shorty”
"Boy you got me confused with a man who repeats himself".
"Man money ain't got no owners, only spenders"
The Wire have more gangsta lines than any other movie or any show because it was natural not just tough talk for no reason.
Or the time he walks intoto prop Joe's store with a clock and when asked what's wrong with it he says " it ran outta time" then points a desert eagle to his face lol
Chris was gonna cut his finger off lmao
*or break it off lmao* 😩
I don’t want the man spit. Lol
yOu nEeD sOmE hElP ?!
I dont know bout cards but uh, i think these 45s beat a full house......lol. Boy whoever the writers were for this show deserves an Academy nod....
Dennis Lehane. Wrote Gone Baby Gone,Mystic River and shutter Island
Same actor as Chalky White: Nickel 1911s
He was listening outside the door if you pay attention marlo says he has a full house before Omar enters
Probability of Chris successfully removing the ring from Andre's finger: *100%*
That ring had more owners than a damn chair 😂 Mike deserved his own spin off
You damn right💯😂
Fr dude was a beast
Most hilarious robbery.
"I'll find out for you..."
I wonder if Marlo would be more impressed knowing Michael took that ring from a cop or from Omar...
I don’t think it matters since in Marlo’s eyes, Mike either took it off Omar or someone with enough pull to take it off Omar. Either way, they know Micheal is real.
Yup
@@bomboy7 correct
I love how this video is 9 yrs old and still have current coments
No doubt
Diarrhea mcpenis
@@julioalvaradojr Ain't you know there's rules to this here comment section?!
5:25 Marlo was like "THE FUCK ... this kid robbed Omar"
When he saw that ring he know they had a real one in Mike lol.
So glad someone made this video, one of my favorite plotlines
This was done by a true fan of "The Wire". Great Job!!!!!!
Yep. You can tell easily. All in order too. Great job!
My friend was at a bar once talking about the wire with a girl. She said she knew more about the show then anyone. He texted me with a question to stump her. I said for him to ask about the chain of custody for this ring throughout season 4. Stumped her
The fact I know this off the top. Loool
Andre, Marlo, black cop and Michael
@@jrh8302 missed. Andre Marlo Omar cop Micheal
@@killaswing1000 officer walker be evil yo
Marlo: “I ain’t much for sentiment”
No shit lol
Marlo finally stops taking Ls at poker and the game gets robbed lmao
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The Ring's arc (and value to a certain extent) was to be taken against the owner's will. When Mike offered the ring to Marlo; there's nothing to be gained except a shiny trinket from an employee.
Ha interesting point.
Mike was the only one who didn't get the ring took from him. He volunteered to give it up. In the end Mike robbed for sport. No real attachment to material things. Genius writing in this show.
@tmacbeatsonline He took the ring just because. What target? Marlo and his structure was done. Homeless? Maybe. Who was hunting him?
the game is the game
Marlo took it from Old Face Andre, Omar took it from Marlo, Officer Walker took it from Omar, Michael took it from Officer Walker
The circle of life
@john maziasz in the words of the cold-blooded-vacant-housing-Landlord, Marlo..."early bird get dat worm"✌😬
What they say when they rob somebody, is so old school. "I like that... I'm'a need that..." The writers on this show made sure all little things sounded just like how OG's really speak.
sup holmes...i'm'a need that like
0:38 Chris:maybe use some spit
Marlo:
I don’t want the mans spit lmaoooo
Pusher
Kingpin
Stick up man
Officer
Soldier
Covering all aspects of the game
Marlo Takes it From Andre
Omar Takes It from Marlo
Walker Takes It from Omar
Michael Takes It From Walker
Imagine if Omar had killed marlo right there
For making him repeat himself
The ring scenario /metaphor /symbolism if the whole ring incident was just a representation of the streets & violence and what goes around comes around. The Wire is my favorite television show of all time for so many reasons just fucking brilliant!
Chistability i think it's definitely also a symbol of how something highly valued by someone can be so easily robbed from them
"Murder? Who I kill?!"
Love the delivery on that line.
“I don’t know ‘bout cards but I think these 4-5’s beat a full house”
One of the greatest lines in the show
I dont see no sweat in yo brow niether bro
Po house
Omar had all the cool lines,in Court me with the gun , you with the briefcase
One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Baltimore where the Gods will not save you.
damn...that was a great comment! No go and get your shine box!!
@@benyaminyisrael4634 Damn I just noticed I repeated myself with a longer quote a few months later. I gotta remember which Wire clips I already watched!
Rings don't have owners....only wearers
They do have owners if something is yours you own it.
@@kishaundavis4217 You didn't get the joke smh
@@uneven_haircut1861 How is that a joke to you, who in their right mind would think thats funny.
@@kishaundavis4217 What a square you are lmao
@@uneven_haircut1861 How there is no joke.
I for one found it damn hilarious when Marlo and crew thought Michael robbed Omar for that ring 😂😂😂
Trollface Killa they never thought that
alario insunsa yea they did that’s why Marlo was suprised when he seen it around mikes neck Marlo assumed mike robbed Omar for it for Omar robbing mike for a package which Omar never did rob mike but Marlo assumes this because Omar was robbing all the corners and when mike says “ I took it from a nigga” Marlo only thinks mike took it from the guy that took it from him
@@whoknows7406 exactly. Marlo knew it had circulated through the hood already. If he thought Michael took it from Omar he would have immediately questioned him as to where and how he took it from Omar because he wanted revenge for omar robbing him.
@@KnockSquared exactly, no way in the world they actually thought mike robbed Omar, that plot would be too simple. They knew they had value in mike though
@FoxRcng708 I'm tryna tellem, even if marlo didnt set upOmar, they still wouldn't have thought he took it from him, like someone stated earlier they wouldve grilled mike for info, I took it as they realized shyt in the streets just happens, and Omar got got. This show is too deep to just cop to mike robbin omar
That fucking ring was cursed.
Because it was stolen.
And Mike was the only one smart enough to willingly offer it up after he had it.
"Yeah man, you need some help?"
Lmao, the way Chris's eyes glow when he says that makes it so hilarious. Its like he was there just to deliver that one line like that lol
You should've let the next line stay in where Michael immediately says to Marlo "You want it?" Everything came full circle (ring) literally.
if it was full circle, that fat guy would have had it again
+colenbrak In the fucking ground
unaffiliated well, he’s dead so
You mean old face?
Marlo thought Mike robbed Omar lol
Naw he knew he robbed a dirty cop
Earl Douglas how could he know that?
Cause at the same he set him for murder and nobody could touch him
there's no way marlo could have known walker took the ring off omar and michael took it off walker. marlo 100% thought michael robbed omar, or was just laughing internally about how much this ring changes hands
This show was so good. I'm going to have to re-watch the whole thing.
I just did 😂
Same, but i didn't bother watch season 5 because of the fake serial killer bullshit. Tho it was still good.
@@Coolwhips542 you prolly caught shit you didn't before, the shows writing is so layered it's fruitful to watch it more than once
I haven’t even watched the show...
@@gwappo4852 it's worth the watch, especially that you are black.
I have always viewed this little sub story as just icing on the cake. The show is so thorough they can afford to do things like this and its just awesome.
And it was criminally overlooked by Emmies, the twats.
D D emmy's too white yo
amen
The ring really had its own storyline
Facts...I think this was the first inkling that he was gonna be a stick up kid like Omar...but the look in Marlo's eyes showed, and further confirmed, this kid had heart and was gonna be a beast in the streets.
A whole character arc babe
@@curtisg4817 You know who else had an arc? Noah.
Chris is the like the Grim Reaper. When he said, “Yeah man you need some help?” the ring magically came off. 😆😆😆 You don’t want no help he offering.
whoever wrote that 4 5s beat a full house line deserves a fucken award
Man, still one of the coldest lines in a tv series. Period! 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
I swear that and the you got me confused line so hard. Michael git honorable mention for that "you ain't gon hear the next one."
love to all the wire fans.... you here, you a true wire fan!!!
I never leave. Lol
The entire Ring arch was brilliant writing
This ring has been on everyone's finger in Baltimore 😂 , marlo certainly believed that michael stole it from omar .
At the start of this saga when the ring got took, the person taking it - Marlo, Omar, Walker - did so out of greed. While Michael took it himself from Walker, he was doing it during an act of retribution for a friend - Donut - Walker had harmed, and did it more to humiliate Walker. When Marlo sees the ring again, this time in possession of Michael, Michael does not display any greed for it and freely offers it up to his benefactor. It highlights how Michael's moral character is above the others.
no, stop trying to be what you are not.
@@mando5190 ight anime background pussy
nice catch man. that ring came from mordor.
@@Dawgwithagun lmfao roasted that weeb
@Clayton Houghland we actually all agreed with him but one guy who we all hoped on ass ab i think your confused
Three Rings for the Natural Police wearing the Blue,
Seven for the Stevedores in their ports of steel,
Nine for Corners pawns doomed to die,
One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
In the Land of Baltimore where the Game is the Game.
One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them,
In the Land of Baltimore where the Gods will not save you.
*applause*