John Coltrane - Ascension / Deep Cuts Essentials #12
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- Today’s essential is one of the greatest explorations of jazz you’re likely to have - ‘Ascension’ by John Coltrane.
Edition I solo order:
(Opening Ensemble)
Coltrane solo (4:05-6:05)
(Ensemble)
Johnson solo (7:58-10:07)
(Ensemble)
Sanders solo (11:15-13:30)
(Ensemble)
Hubbard solo (14:53-17:50)
(Ensemble)
Shepp solo (18:55-21:40)
(Ensemble)
Tchicai solo (23:11-24:56)
(Ensemble)
Brown solo (26:23-28:31)
(Ensemble)
Tyner solo (29:39-31:36)
Davis and Garrison duet (31:36-33:30)
Jones solo (33:30-33:55)
(Concluding Ensemble)
Edition II solo order:
(Opening Ensemble)
Coltrane solo (3:10-5:48)
(Ensemble)
Johnson solo (7:45-9:30)
(Ensemble)
Sanders solo (11:55-14:25)
(Ensemble)
Hubbard solo (15:40-17:40)
(Ensemble)
Tchicai solo (18:50-20:00)
(Ensemble)
Shepp solo (21:10-24:10)
(Ensemble)
Brown solo (25:10-27:16)
(Ensemble)
Tyner solo (29:55-33:26)
Davis and Garrison duet (33:26-35:50)
(Concluding Ensemble)
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To me late period Coltrane is the peak of jazz music. Some of my favorite albums are Ascension, Interstellar Space and The Olatunji Concert, which are full of creativity, intensity and power.
I like your profile photo
Olatunji Concert is the craziest shit I’ve ever heard
The drumming on Olatunji reminds me of Grindcore absolutely mental
this album is fun as hell to improvise over, it never fails to cure me of musical writer's block
A+ for the thumbnail
We've got a lot of buttons undone there Oliver
TheKnowlesy56 next video we’re seeing him shirtless
Possibly the deepest cut of all
Rodolfo PT Best reply ever
Great review, Oliver! Just a side comment: for those just getting into and exploring Coltrane, I highly recommend his album My Favorite Things. The title track is my fave Coltrane track because it's so magical. Coltrane on soprano sax in brilliant flights of inspiration, riffing off the melody in ways that somehow remind me of nature in the country on a crisp, autumn day, geese flying by and a gentle north wind brushing through colorful leaves in the trees, with the fragrance of smoke from the hearth of a nearby chimney, and that's not all you get... Coltrane reaches a sort of nirvana, then hands off the track to McCoy Tyner on piano, who seemingly effortlessly elevates the track spiritually higher in the most transcendent solo of his career... then, back to Coltrane for wrapping this soul embracing, lovely Christmas present for all eternity. Yeah, it's that good.
Couldn’t have said it any better myself.
Summertime is also an amazing track. Love how the heavy hitting section fights the swing section
will do, thanks
So happy we get a new video before the hiatus😔
the what????
@@bobsbigboy_ He's quitting the channel for now.
Arpit Bharti What why? Where did he say this
@@thesten6982 his patreon, it was posted to reddit as well.
shhhh it was supposed to be on the down low for now
As much as I adore A Love Supreme, Ascension is my favorite Coltrane record. Its intensity and power is unmatched in jazz
The river crashing on rocks is the best metaphor for jazz . Your really nice to new jazz listeners . Free form takes a lot of humility to get into
One of the greatest and most challenging records. Excellent review, cool thumbnail.
So glad you chose an often underrated Coltrane record. This one needs a lot of love.
underrated? really/
@@Pretzels722for normal jazz listeners it’s not well know.
Wow, you went THERE. I suppose this is as far as Coltrane got, but to new listeners, it might not be the best place to begin. For those who think this is too much, might I suggest a few albums to lead up to this - some which came before, some which came just after: A Love Supreme, Transition, Sun Ship and First Mediations (for quartet).
Thanks. I'm still a relatively new listener. I liked A Love Supreme and Giant Steps. Hope I like the other ones you've recommended as well.
I would only recommend those albums first if you are going to move ahead to Ascension. Now, if you're just beginning your Coltrane listening experience, let me recommend several other records first. A Love Supreme and Giant Steps are 2 of the first handful of records I'd recommend anybody. The others are as follows: a Miles Davis album he appears on called "Relaxin With The Miles Davis Quintet" (1956), Blue Train (1957), and My Favorite Things (1960). Like David Bowie, Coltrane changed all the time. Each year, he was kind of a different artist. So, if you like the records I've mentioned, if you've got a feel for him and enjoy his work, THEN you're able to move forward with his work from 1965. I would actually recommend several other records - and several other artists, really - after this prior to Ascension. Oliver really didn't mention a whole lot in his video. He just kind of threw his listeners/watchers in the deep end with Ascension. Have you ever listened to Ornette Coleman? You might not like free jazz. It's not for everyone. It's not exactly my favorite genre. I like the beginnings of it. I like Coltrane's year of 1965. In fact, I think the records I mentioned in the other post (Transition, Sun Ship, First Mediations) are his greatest work with his quartet. You CANNOT talk about the music of Coltrane these years without talking about McCoy Tyner on piano and Elvin Jones on drums. (And, I suppose, Jimmy Garrison on bass, but I don't always hear the bass above the other 3, so, I can't speak with any authority.) Coltrane's growth as an artist in 1965 was incredible. After the recording of A Love Supreme in December 1964, he just accelerated somehow. He wasn't growing year by year at that point, but month by month, week by week, session by session. The graph should show him ending with Ascension, but that actually comes before Transition, Sun Ship and First Mediations. If you would like, I would gladly recommend other albums or artists for you. If you GET Ascension upon your first listen, you're a better listener than I ever was.
@@chrisdelisle3954 Well I appreciate your informed opinion on this man's music. I have a feeling it might take me a while before I move to Ascension because from what I've read in other people's comments, it seems like an intensely difficult record to dive into if you're unfamiliar with his other works. I do like Ornette Coleman. I have heard his albums 'The Shape OF Jazz To Come' and 'The Change Of The Century' and enjoyed them a lot. I haven't heard the one that Oliver mentioned, 'Free Jazz: A Collective Improvisation',but I'll make sure to listen to that one as well as I'm sure it must be quite an impressive record. I have listened to some songs from 'Blue Train' and 'My Favorite Things' but not the whole albums yet. I really enjoyed what I heard. I probably do like free jazz since it has elements of dissonance, atonality and the avant-garde which appeals to me. Then again it might be that I enjoy the beginnings of it and need to delve further to see if it really is my thing.
It's great that you mentioned Coltrane's ever-changing growth as a musician as now I think that's going to give me even more reason to listen to most of his work.
I am looking forward to when I do get to listen to Ascension. Fingers crossed I get it. Cheers for all your suggestions.
Re: Ascension - well, if you have 40 minutes and nothing to do, or need to paint a wall or something, it must be on TH-cam somewhere, right? I am glad you like Ornette. That early period of his in the late 50's, early 60's is great. Have you ever listened to Charles Mingus? Eric Dolphy? Art Tatum? Art Tatum has been referred to as "God on piano." As incredible as Oscar Peterson is on piano, Tatum is better. I am no musician and don't know a key from a chord from a note, but to my layman's ears, Ornette Coleman's "Free Jazz" is actually quite structured. When I heard it, it just sounded like a regular song but longer and with more solos. Ascension is a little bit different and feels less structured.
Oh, and Rahsaan Roland Kirk and Thelonious Monk, as well. If you would like a couple of introductory records for these artists, here goes: Art Tatum - any of his Solo Masterpieces on Pablo Records from the early 1950's (I have the 7-disc box set); Rahsaan Roland Kirk - Rip, Rig & Panic (with Elvin Jones on drums, Jaki Byard on piano) or Bright Moments (a 2-disc live set from 1973...amazing); Charles Mingus - Mingus At Antibes (live in 1960 with Eric Dolphy) or Let My Children Hear Music (1971)...although he's got 4 stone cold classics he recorded in 1959...and then there's his live recordings from 1964 which are incredible (also with Dolphy); Thelonious Monk - basically anything he ever recorded is worth it, but my favorite is Monk & Trane (1957...one of Trane's best, as well) and Solo Monk (1965)...but again, anything he did was great; Eric Dolphy - everybody will tell you Out To Lunch from 1964, but that wouldn't be the first place I'd recommend...try Live In Europe (Volume 1) from 1961 if you can find it...or Far Cry (1960)...recorded the same day he performed on Ornette Coleman's "Free Jazz!"; let me add Sonny Rollins - Saxophone Colossus (1956) and Tour De Force (also 1956)...I love Coltrane, but Rollins is kind of the perfect saxophone player at times. Ascension might take you places - it depends on the listener - but it might also be noise to your ears. I think the records I've recommended would be both honey to your ears and are jam-packed with artistic expression.
It's amazing to go back to these Deep Cuts Essentials and find incredible records. Such great videos and work you put in here, Oliver!
The album blew my mind the first time I heard it. Glad you decided to make a video about it. While not my favorite work of Coltrane, it's by far the most significant in my life by him.
When I listened to this album for the first time a few years ago it was just random noise refusing to catch my attention at any point of it. About a year ago, after gaining some vaster perspective on music in general I gave it another try and oh boy, now it's one of my favorite albums of all time, I have a digipak CD, it's forkin' gorgeous uwu. Musically - I basically have no idea what's going on but that doesn't stop me from enjoying the amaaazing, dense and beautiful sonic texture, the controlled chaos creating sort of harmonic cloud of sound. I also love "hunting" for particular moments on this thing, a great lick here, beautiful dissonance there, some great drum beat in another place... I love that it begins with a simple melody lick which gets adopted by other players, they start to play it in a desynchronised way, creating those beautiful harmonies inviting you into the world of wonder... And it ends with the same theme :3 Love it
Coltrane's peak... just beautiful. Glad you did a video on this album
Just bought my first records idles and burial
Great picks!
Be careful. Once you start it’s hard to stop :-)
Idles are industry plants. So are proto martyr
W;P That has to be the dumbest thing I've ever read.
W;P every artist is an “industry plant” unless they self produce all their work. Dumb statement.
One of, if not the greatest classic jazz albums ever. Pure unpredictable sonic insanity. I love it.
I always love your thumbnails to your videos.
Coltrane’s Impulse! period is hands down my favourite.
I've got most Coltrane stuff up to Love supreme........Coltrane my fave.....and recently got more into the 69-75 of Davis's period.....been a bit weary of getting this tbh but saw your review and going in....i like music that challenges the listener...thankyou for the push 🙂
Lol, this reminded me the other day when I was stoned with a couple a friends. I put this album hoping they wouldn't kill me, but 5 minutes later I had to turn off the album because I was almost having an anxiety attack hahahaah. Guess I was too stoned and sensitive. Anyway, I love this album. It was my introduction to free jazz and my favorite Coltrane along with A Love Supreme.
Classic album and it's one of my top 3 favourite Coltrane albums
What are the other 2? Still delving into Coltrane, so I'm basic with my Giant Steps and Love Supreme
Well my other two favourites are A Love Supreme and Blue Train. He had made a lot of fantastic albums.
I actually listened to Ascension a while back. However, I felt that the cacophonous waves of sound that are crashing throughout both performances was kinda overkill. While I do love me some crazy wild moments in a performance (The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady, for instance), I felt there was too much for me to dive down and experience from front to back. I will say that I might give it another shot and see if that still holds up, especially after watching this video. Also, thanks for the lists of soloists in the description. Might use it for whenever I get the chance to listen to it again.
Nice
Thank you for everything Oliver!!
Coltranes first solo is one of my favorites
Hell of a review! Thanks a bunch.
Thank you Oliver, very cool!
But should have picked My Favorite Things
Miss you!
yay a coltrane video
I think it's time to give it a try
The day has come at last! Oliver covers some jazz! And one of my favorite albums ever! Thanks!!!
Great video!
Nice video, though Ascension is still really hard for me to get into. Even more base-level Coltrane is still enormously challenging for me.
Thanks, I love Coltrane but never checked this out. Are you going to do a video on Zappa at some point?
This was a hard one to get into at first, it's so abstract it's really hard to connect with some emotion. But it's so beautifully colorful and full of energy, you'll end up sweating.
This is where I draw the line with "ok this is way too complex"
I feel you. But have you tried more than once? Or maybe read about free jazz and how jazz came to this? I think it's realyy worth it once you get used to
Has anyone heard Coltrane Plays the Blues? great album
Have you heard Jazz Impressions of Japan by Dave Brubeck? It's my favourite jazz record and I'd love to get recommendations on other jazz concept albums like it.
A guide to Nine Inch Nails or John Frusciante would be awesome
nah
IMO HE IS THE GREATEST INSTRUMENTALIST EVER..EVEN OVER HENDRIX AND BILL EVANS..LISTEN TO THE ALBUM "STELLAR REGIONS" ONE OF MY 10 DESERT ISLAND DISCS
where's the yellow flan....
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Check out Oloff man, he's wild. Like judging from interviews and social media he's clearly a bit insane but his music is very special and interesting. I think it would make for a great video.
Oliver Notice Me!!!!!!
shoulda picked meditations
jk
Coltrane's tone at the start of his solo on Edition II bears an uncanny resemblance to Kendrick Lamar's flow on u, and I had a very odd emotional reaction on first listen
HEY DUDE WHERE IS THAT SNIPPET FROM YOUR INTRO FROM???
th-cam.com/video/TVE1OJ74ltk/w-d-xo.html
Do you play music yourself? interested
1 dislike? ONE DISLIKE ALREADY? who are these people
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i love ornette but i agree with what miles said along the lines of that 'free jazz' killed jazz, and it was a shame because it had so much more to give.
Louis Armstrong said Bebop killed jazz. Older guys now think hip hop grooves are killing it. Jazz needs to progress or it will die.
After a love supreme in 65 John Coltrane went progressive with his jazz. The live stuff I lapped it up. Progressive Jazz like jazz fusion and free jazz dose not make for a good album. Some say that kind of Jazz is less tuneful. I say there is no tune or anything I would call music in progressive jazz!
Nice video but you have overrated what is ambient sound. His most beautiful album is Blue Train. The best thing he ever did was Giant Steps. There is a good earworm documentary that’s about 10~ish minutes long here on TH-cam about Giant Steps.