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Kenyon Martin explains KD saying LeBron creates a toxic playing environment | NBA | THE HERD
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What are your thoughts on Kevin Durant’s comments about LeBron?
He will never be as good as the king.
Colin, Nick, Max, Shannon... you guys are not helping Lebron put this 'super-team' together.
Great job KD!!! Hey stupid colin, get this into your delusional head: lebron won´t win another championship (No super star wanna play with him), and he chose the worst destination to do so because he will always remain under the shadow, not only of MJ, but of Magic and Kobe also.
KD would never got a ring without huge help from GSW, who would win with or without him.
You're his number one fan boy
KD isn't saying LeBron creates a toxic environment. He's saying YOU GUYS, the media, creates that environment for every team he plays for.
👏🏾 well said sir...well said
Thank you!!! Finally someone who understands what he said!!!
Konohahurricane07 ...If Lebron is such a media favorite, and has been one of the best players the last few years, why hasn't he won an MVP. You know who votes for the MVP ... the Fanboys . the media ... they love him sooo much, they never pick him. #KDjealous ...
Comes with the territory of being the GOAT!
@@MegaBruce247 Lebron has already won the regular season MVP award 4 times. Kind of like the academy awards, they probably just want to spread it around a bit. The media understands that Lebron has been the best player for the last decade. Heck, everybody who isn't crazy understands that.
KD cant create an environment he has to join one....
Some players are like that, they really are. That's what makes certain people so amazingly special.
And yey he almost has the same number of championships. The same thing lebron tried to do. How ironic 😂
D Smoove Bro mad cuz Bron left Miami lol .
@@bayoubeast7126 actually no and if you're a man you wouldn't try to assume how another is. We won a championship before he even came. I don't need to deflect to make my point.
@@DZ-lx4iu LOL it's ok bro he might come back to Miami in his last year. Don't be bitter
That's not what he said. He said the media creates the toxic environment not Lebron. Trash title
LeBron is toxic af
The title is a perfect example of this exact point
Still comes off as a hater. Why you even worried about another mans environment. Kd hoping he can keep lebron in la by himself but it ain't happening.
@@stephenc2664 Lebron = G.O.A.T.
He gave back to his community in a *big* way.
Edward James I was literally about to say this thank you
2 months later, he’s totally right.
Krantonimore I was looking for this comment
@@carazydude8160 both of u r dumb..
@@theoneandonly7795 LeToxic
4 more months later, he is having so much fun in "Non-Toxic" GSW. Isn't he?
Lol toxic huh 4 rings please
Kenyon Martin finally telling the truth regarding BI's struggles!!!
Vino Mauler that’s what I’ve been saying. No matter how good you were or were going to be before LeBron, expect some regression there
Sad thing is he isn’t even struggling. He’s playing ok but to play well with LeBron you have to be a fully developed alpha male player. The type of player that will clash with LeBron in the beginning until they figure things out
I actually don't believe that. The team is fast and leaves space for players to do their thing. Sure, Lebron is going to have the ball a bunch of time, but you want that to be successful! The Lakers would never be a title contender with Ingram as the main man: he isn't made out for that. He is a good player, nothing more. He still gets to do his "routine" or whatnot, just isn't aggressive enough attacking the game (as he is attacking other players face, actually). Consistency is key for a player like him. As a matter of fact, everybody compares him to KD. KD is in a team that has had 4 all-stars in the roster, one of them the greatest shooter ever and an elite spot-up shooter. Does he have the ball as much as he likes? No, I don't believe so. If he was, he'd probably be scoring 50 points games on a regular basis - which he is actually getting anyway! Ingram just has to be consistent. Kuzma has already surpassed him as a reliable player and as a potential all-star. Ball is utilizing his team in the best way possible. So stop it with he needs the ball in his hands: if he had it, the Lakers would never be where they are right now, nor will ever be. He'd be a trading asset as we speak.
@@ricardoqueiroz4044 no you dont want that to be a title contender. Lebron having the ball 80% of the time is a horrible idea. The offense becomes too predictable. Lebron needs shooters for his style of play. Its Cavs all over again, Korver, JR Smith, Shumpert. Even forced Kevin Love into a stand in the corner shooter which made Love predictable and even less effective player. How many of you people do not understand basketball? Its easy to stop the lebron offense because its predictable. Pacers took the Cavs to 7 games. Boston without Kyrie and Hayward took Cavs to 7 games because their offense was predictable. If teams like Boston sans Kyrie and Hayward or Pacers took that Cavs tean to 7 games, imagine what these West teams are going to do to the Lakers if lebrons predictable offense takes over?
BIG FACTS
Why ppl mad at KD for telling he truth. He not even talking about Lebron. The Media constantly kills whatever teammates this man has even if they an allstar.
Kenyon Martin spittin real facts believe that!
Colin, Nick Wright, Shannon and a majority of these people in these comments prove KD’s point exactly😂
Preach!
Right! These guys are so damn stupid that I’m embarrassed for them
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
So that's 4 guys in the media wow a lot of fan boys hah
Skip, Stephen a and rob Parker even them out though
Some of the people in this comment section are proving KD right
Exactly.
He is right
Exactly..!
facts
"some"
THANKS KENYON! The truth about their growth being stunted.
KD jealous af. Back to back Finals MVP's and still no one thinks he's better than Bron.
lebron isnt top 5 right now get over it
@@brashadcarr6759 there arent 5 players in the nba right now better than lebron and the numbers say so. Lebron is top 1
Everyone except Bronsexuals know KD is the best on the planet lol
@@btl_0072 If Kd was the best player on the planet why do they have a similar record to the lakers and his team has 4 other all stars on it. KD isnt even better than Curry
@@davidmuller6011 How you gonna mention they record and 4 all stars but not mention how they started 10-1 when healthy and got hit with injury bug and over the last couple weeks only 2 out of those 4 all stars took the floor? 🤔
These comments are proving KD’s point. Lebron fans are zombies bro
immanuel williams lebron stans can be weird but in my opinion his haters are much worse
Yemi and what would make them worse in my opinion because to me stans and haters are neck and neck in terms of stupidity and lack of knowledge one thing I can say I’ve noticed is that hater often get mad at simply seeing lebron shown in a positive light at all, as much as stans boost lebron and his accomplishments yes there’s a feeling of he gets passes in situations he don’t deserve but no matter how you spin it both sides are rarely logical and if you aren’t objective which I don’t see from you then you just come off as bias towards one side...
His stans create haters there the worst .....bunch of lil nick wrights
Are you serious zombies is what you came up with wow your sure have a way with words lol not really don't disrespect lebron you unsecure bum
Dohabo Mursel your attempted insult was pathetic 😂
OMG crooked media trying to make people hate KD by lying in the titles of their videos. This is not what KD said lol
Crooked media? Their perspective or slant towards stories that generate clicks doesn’t make them crooked. Crooked is more sinister, like a president attacking the systems that make our country strong, defending the white nationalists in Charlottesville after they murdered that girl, or claiming to be a nationalist himself. Crooked is trying to bribe Putin to make money in Russia, or attacking everyone on twitter and pissing everyone off except Putin and other dictators. With them he is extra kind and thoughtful about his words. That’s real crooked. It’s disgusting. Stop talking about crooked media. Only crooked media is the enquirer and fox lying to their viewers to protect the president.
Why are we talking Ingram when Kuzma has been growing greatly with LeBron and may become a star
Jason Futrell because kuzma is way older and a role player
@@brandonuntouchableingram1660 he's 2 years older 🧐
@@drewbulloch4917 Maybe they are looking like role players cause of Lebron. Remember why the superstars don't want to play with Lebron?
@@yawtsa8743 Try that back next season
KD low-key roasting Colin with those comments
I've never heard LeBron say anything negative about or anything near negative about anyone in the league. But klay, Durant, Lillard, green, George and others always have something to say
Patrick star actions speak louder than words .
Lebron said he doesn’t know why Kyrie wanted to leave but he was willing to trade him for PG and Bledsoe.
He left 3 teams so far with no heads up to any of the players or staff , KD does that once and gets ridiculed.
Players that played with him ADMIT that Lebron likes to cherrypick assists just for stats , doesn’t allow the game to be fluid for the team .
Puts blame on the rest of the team by saying “I did all I could do “ after they lose in the playoffs .
A real leader makes sure his teammates stay hot and consistent, not have them sit in a corner for 47 minutes and when a big shot is needed he expects them to make it .
Just because you say all the right things to the media , that doesn’t define your character . Your character is read between the lines , when things don’t count how do you act ?
rottishake no heads up? They knew he could leave as soon as he signed. He doesn’t owe any team anything.
moemoney131 vee this was the exact storyline perpetrated by the media to cause people to hate Durant and love Westbrook.
Funny thing is they are friends aside from that .
As for Kyrie and Lebron... not so much .
Way to grab a single example and alienate the context of my comment btw .
The whole point is that when reading between the lines it’s not hard to see Lebron does much of what he does for fan and media approval . You can tell because of how much he flaunts what he does.
He has the media on his side aswell so for every action he does , the media will be right there to praise him , and brainless fans don’t use their critical thinking.
If you wanna think “why would he even do that” it’s also not hard to tell .
He was being promoted as the next greatest player ever since about 16 years old . His entire life is set out to surpass Michael Jordan , but since he already missed that opportunity , he resolves to antics to sway the general public opinion .
Take my word for it , a couple years after Lebron retires it will all come out in the wash .
Maybe what I typed just flies right above your head . I wouldn’t be surprised . It happens to a majority of Lebron fanboys . They have some sort of loyalty to a man like a woman does . So they lash out whenever someone is critical about their bae.
You and Broussard were talking about this last week. You guys said LeBron HAS to play a certain way. He demands the ball. "You do what you do" or whatever it was that you said you say to your wife all the time, am I right? KD said that. He didn't say LeBron is toxic. He didn't say no one wants to play with him. He said HE UNDERSTANDS why some players wouldn't wanna play with him. He even went in depth about differenciating the situation between role players and (upcoming) star players. He ended by saying it's not LeBron's fault at all. The problem really is media. That's what turns it toxic and not every player survives in that environment. You said it yourself before that playing with LeBron is not for everyone. If they win it's because of LeBron, if they lose it's because of his teammates. Not everyone is built for that. This was never a diss to Bron.
He said what all y'all been saying for years now. Y'all just don't like it because HE was the one saying it.
Alex Sousa 💯💯💯
People in here hating on Lebrons fans while they writing 3 separate comments praising Durant 💀
M.A Productions people? No. You mean Kevin Durant lmao. Don’t be fooled by the avis 😂
Yes KD is weak, and confused
Osi Mac u right
"3 separate comments"..lmao!
R BZ deadass seen somebody do that
Kenyon was spot on about Ingram.
KENYON MARTIN SPEAKING THE TRUTH. Lebron is a great player but he is not letting these guys develop. If you care about the Lakers and not just Lebron, you should care about the fact that the young players are not developing while playing with Lebron.
How much will they develop in the playoffs without him there?
@@WoWscHiLd We obviously know they are not winning the Finals, so at least give the young ones a season to develop.
except Kuzma fits well with LeBron, Kuzma dosent need the ball to score he moves with out the ball and LeBron finds him that's why their chemistry has been so goid so far this year. Kuzma has continued his growth he's playing solid defense now which was his weakness and he is play making more .
Do you really think that people are paying all that money to watch a developing team? Be serious the Lakers had how many years to develop a team? They want to win!
Ive seen a few games when they played through ingrim and he isn't that. If you take the ball out of LeBron's hands watch how many games are lost.
Colin doesn't talk about any NBA teams but the Lakers it's hilarious
A1r_Jordan he doesn’t like Westbrook with a passion tho so OKCs the other one lol
I also think we need to buy Colin a Thesaurus, a Dictionary of Thoughts (basically a book of quotations by great thinkers) and an introductory Dorling-Kindersly Encyclopedia of World History because that dude needs more than five analogies and getting him reading would hopefully stimulate that process.
Because he's one of the "media fanboys"
Apparently KD is right. Lakers is in dilemma right now after the AD trade backfired.
Backfired?
Watch it bruh
This dilemma will end by next week
@@norpriest521 yeah i watched, they didnt make it in playoffs. Lol.
Great conversation, ill never look at the game the same again after this.
Great points and great breakdown kenyon
Thank you Kenyon Martin. It makes no sense for LeBron to be playing with the Lakers. He don't help the Lakers young players develope, because he's a ball hogger. I'd like to see him and Westbrook play together...they would be fighting after every game. That's why KD wanted out of OKC.
This the same guy that got roasted by Lin?
I totally forgot that. Haha
yeah did you notice, after the backlash that ensued this guy was suddenly nowhere to be found in the media. He finally crawled back from under his rock when the new season started. He's an idiot
All of you are dummies. Guy who feuded with Jeremy Lin is Stephen Jackson
@@SuperDiehard1234 no, it's him.lol
All these LeBron fans are hurt nobody wants to play with him.
the real Reginald Smith Durant fanboy confirmed🌝
Nah guys like George and Jimmy Butler, etc... Those guys aren't PREMIUM enough to waste Magic's cap space. Only Hall of Fame perennial MVP candidates aren't scoring the big contracts in LA.We can revisit this at the start of next year.
Didnt they just say the samething bout Kobe...lololol..smh Laker haters foh
Lebron fanboys. Real superstars would rather play with KD than lebron. Deal with that.
Watching the lakers get dominated by the pacers made me realize that kd is actually 100% right..
Oculus WTF with this commercial!
Drives me insane.
KD is right tho, imagine you being an all star or an all nba player playing with lebron, he is ball dominant so you'll have to sacrifice your numbers and when you lose is all on you, but when you win it's all because of lebron and he is carrying you
u sound lost.
Wade and Bosh didnt sacrifice numbers and neither did Kyrie. When you win its because Ray Allen saved you or Draymond suspension saved you
@@DnJBeatz Did you watch the 2016 final? Irving is the sole reason the Cavs even won Game 5 and 7, and yet Lebron talks about how it was God's plan for him to carry the Cavs to a title like he did it himself. Only Bronsexuals think Lebron deserved the 2016 FMVP.
Samuel Teixeira So is this true of Michael Jordan then I take it? It would have been terrible to play with him as well by this logic?
@@JS-pn4tj Lmfao he led every player in EVERY statistical category and was the best player both ends of the floor, Kyrie hit the big shot but LeBron was the main reason they even competed with GS your so delusional it's a bit worrying tbh
False! This was NEVER the case in Miami. The only reason you think this is because this is actually how it is. Look at earlier stages of lebrons career, he literally had no help, he literally carried. 2018 was the same thing, His teammates shooting under 30% this is simply because yea, his teammates suck, it usually is their fault. Miami was never like this well because he had he help.
$$$ Great analysis $$$
Thank you ... one word , facts
Kyrie and Wade still managed to have 30+pts games when LeBron also scored 30+. Kyrie still got his points when LeBron let him play iso so did Wade. Ingram isnt at that lvl yet and if be doesnt get it soon he's getting traded.
oMyGunny when Lebron played with both Kyrie and wade, both players were already full developed. Kyrie was in year 4 when Lebron came and was basically handed the keys to the team when he was a rookie. He was a much more developed player already than Ingram as a rookie. Wade played with Lebron when he already had won a ring, was a multiple time all star.
Yeah but have they ever got the recognition for being a big part of those title wins... Kyrie made the game winning shot to win the championship but you never heard anyone talking about that. The only time you hear about them is when things go wrong and they start blaming all the role players (lebron doesn't have help). But when it goes good its all lebron. Kyrie left for a reason and the current Cavs team is living proof what he knew would happen... Toxic..pure toxic.
@@Magnus-Ragnarok everyone talks about Kyries shot lol Skip Bayless constantly reminds us all the time.
@@Magnus-Ragnarok Cavs have been toxic before LeBron. Its the org not LeBron. LeBron brought them a championship Kyrie couldnt make the playoffs before LeBron. And than last year LeBron took a lottery team to the finals.
@@Magnus-Ragnarok And now he's taking the Lakers to the playoffs in the west. Where a lot off people said LeBron couldnt hang.
Welp.... KD was right
U know what’s toxic, going to a 73-9 team after loosing to them, blowing a 3-1 lead in the conference finals
" I'm not going to be questioned what I'm doing when I'm not on your clock ". Well said Mr Martin .
Didnt hear that nobody wanted to play with Lebron when he was with the Heat, or Cleveland...but just like nobody wanted to play with Kobe, so they say....sound like a Laker thing bitter players or the media creates
Lanzo doesn’t need the ball even when he’s wide open under the basket he’s looking to pass most unselfish player in the game
Go go go go Go go go ....can’t look back , got to keep running
Damn Kenyon martin needs to be on more often, across the shows. Speaking nothing but facts and a ball players perspectives and thoughts. I hadnt thought of Ingram struggles like that
More folks are just tired of LeBron's charade and also the media for talking about him. There are 29 other teams and 449 other players out there. Surprised nobody is suggesting DC for KD.
You're being hypocritical by feeding into the beast you're opposing.
#Dippy
stop listening to the media that tells you how to think when it comes to sports KD not jealous or insecure because he's a better offensive player and just as good as him on defense. like most of you brainwash LeBron fans are people are mad because he said it and it's hurting their feelings especially in the media so now people want to attack him On his character but nobody wants to question LeBron character yes KD is right too many fan boys in media instead of being objective too everyone
u say KD is just as good as LeBron and plays better defensively...ludicrous. when KD is done with the warriors please let him have his own team with Average players like LeBron has dealt with and then grade both of them..not even close
Laurence Ross Jr obviously you are a LeBron fanboy it's a fact LeBron doesn't even play defense anymore but he still supposed be the best player in the world that's laughable LeBron never play with average players even in his early years in Cleveland he had All-Star and a good Supporting Cast do your research and finally KD has the stills to lead a average team far but it's all about mindset
Jonathan Corbett what are you talking about kid, lebron played with avg players in his early years, do you even know you facts, please do a reality check on yourself and look at what your saying, please name me these all stars lbj played with his early years, and these great supporting cast, kd had a way better supporting cast then lbj had 😂 know you facts kid your such a lbj hater it’s pathetic and can’t even use facts in your comments
Iniquityslasher Larry Hughes SG /PG was a 20+ per game scorer in his career play with the cav and LeBron 05/06 season and 06/07 zydrunas llgauskas C his career scoring average 17 two-time All-Star and supporting Cast were solid I just prove to you he had help dude I've been watching basketball when Jordan won his last three rings I played basketball I wasn't on a team do to my grades I play with high school and college players I was taught organized ball so I know what I'm talking about homeboy that's besides the point I'm not a LeBron hater just because I disagree that he's the best in the world and I don't agree with the media and you fanboys doesn't make me a hater please do your research before you make your argument smh
But KD is not a Leader he’s a follower BIG FACTS
kenyon always keeps it real and honest
Kenyon speaking nothing but FACTS
So KD was right all along
LeBron James joined a very talented young team. Unfortunately the media in the team environment praises LeBron too much while shitting on the other players.
Kmart is such an intelligent mind! Great discussion.
Why has no other person to play with Lebron said anything close to this? From first year until now. Why is a guy that's never played a season with him saying this?
can't fault kd he was being real, what he said was exactly how kyrie felt, KD was man enough to say it while kyrie deflected the whole time, for example some reporter asked kyrie how great of a father figure was lebron
Well congratulations Kenyon, u played yourself.
Good to hear some insight from K. Martin. He knew where he was in life and knew that Miami wasn't going to be a good fit for him at the time.
Real talk Kenyon.
EXACTLY why he doesn't have a RING!!!!!
Who??🤔
People are arguing based on whether they are LeBron fans, or KD fans.
The bottom line is, what KD said about LeBron and a toxic environment that surrounds him, is absolutely true. Put aside your fanboy ism's, and watch how there aren't many players fighting to go play alongside of him. Also look at all the garbage that happens on his teams concerning other players. People have to make a lot of sacrifices just to be on the same court with him, and deal with his desire to be the coach as well. There's a reason people don't want to play with him.
Ty kmart and that’s why I’m glad he didn’t go to Philly..he’s a tremendous force but a growth stunner for certain teams that have a strong nucleus of young developing talent
Gotta keep running
😂😂😂 Kd not mad or jealous, he just told you the truth and yall see it EVERYDAY
LeBron James is also a terrible GM. He had a lot of input into what trades were made in the middle of the season last year. He bailed out on the expensive mess he helped create in CLE and they are now stuck with.
Shaun Gorzell he would actually have to be a GM first. Don't speak on what you don't know
The amount of input he had was completely overblown by the media
You guys have no idea what you're talking about
I will take a bad gm that gets me to finals....
Well he has three rings so...
KMart........ Salute 💯✊🏽and U always Dig Ya Show ... The Herd......👍🏾💙🕶🥃🔥
good to see this guy
I actually like Kuzma more than Ingram.
Yeah but Magic need to allow them to grow.He seen somethin in them to draft them not because he got lamebron who may be good for 2 more seasons
The coverage on Lebron is wildly inconsistent. On one hand Lebron has all this help and cant win without help, on the other hand players cant play with Lebron. Its laughable. Kyrie is the same 25 and 5 guy in Boston as he was in Cleveland. He is no more efficient and has the same raw stats. This has become a talking point only because Kyrie requested a trade and Love was exposed for being another good player who only put up stats on a bad Wolves team with no other offensive option. Lebron should just retire on these fools
NBAofficialNoWhistle i think Kevin love isn't as good because he completely changed his game
@@Hawkeyes319 true. The nba itself played a part in it, going to more 3 point shots and less post ups across the league
NBAofficialNoWhistle Lebron turns stars into spot up shooters LOL
Well said! Kenyon is good at this.
collin what you are doing right now in this video is exactly what kevin durant is talking about
Misleading title. He didn't say LeBron is toxic. He said the media creates an environment around LeBron that is toxic. Just what you are doing now. Toxic.
Can't believe you have a show and yet you give out false information. Never watching you again. So disappointing.
Colin never interrupts Kenyon 😂
Love it when Kenyon is on
Lakers should of never added lebron and allowed Ingram Randle lonzo kuzma and hart to develop under a real coach.....get rid of Luke walton..... even Boston and philly allowed there young players to grow before adding in Jimmy butler and kyrie Irving.......
LOL you're right bud they should have passed on LeBron and set their goals for a 45 win season with the young guys instead of becoming a title contender
@@timerban3646 it was hard for lebron to win a ring In his prime, what makes you think lebron is gonna win a ring in his 16 season......no superstar wants to play with this dude......
Bro, as soon as boston could they grabbed hayward and kyrie! Tatum only ‘developed’ for one year my guy. Rozier dont play much and wants out, jaylen brown aint that good....boston team is kyrie, horford, tatum, gordon......their young guys to develop bro you tripping,
ALSO this is simmons second year, yea that really gave him a lot of time
Before butler came bro....make good comments with proper analysis my guy
Ingram been in league longer than those guy, hes not the guy everybody thinks he is. Kuzma is and might be better...nobody saying how wel he been playing, just how bad ingram has been , hart getting lots of opportunities bro, lonzo as well
Luke Walton isn’t the problem, it’s magic promising lebron and wanting lebron, not realizing lebron was way too old to help and other players avoid lebron. By getting lebron they lost their chance at KD, Klay, AD, Kyrie, and Kawhi!
So Cleveland could have built a team around LeBron and been a 16 year dynasty but failed miserably and LeBron has been searching for his team since 2010 and will probably never find the sweet spot that MJ had from an early point in his career. Kind of sad for him and especially for the young talent on the lakers he is stunting simply by being in LA
flightschool818 i agree. I think it’s super unlucky that Lebron had wasted 8 athletic prime years in Cleveland who failed to build around him, terrible coaching, terrible gm, terrible owner, terrible team.
@@Sharpuh What sweet spot did Jordan have on the Bulls before their championship years? It was half a decade of painful years that Jordan could've left at any moment...but didn't.
Sosh Vujisic so for his rookie contract pretty much poor him sticking it out for 4.5 years smh
Lebron isn’t stunting anything this lebron media thing is toxic in both ways positive and also negative, Lonzo has been very much improved, Ingram and kuzma haven’t lost a step compared to last season, more fga and better shooting percentages if that’s stunting growth then I need a better explanation other than cause you say so...
Big ups to Kenyon for turning the Heat offer down. Granted I'm a Lebron fan and would've liked to see him on the Heat, what he said about Pat Riley being controlling is true and I agree with why he wouldn't want to deal with that
kmart is right. I just looked up ingrim stats this year. He's averaging 25-7-4 on 49% shooting. His points went up by 7 points from last year. And his 3 point percentage went from 31% to 40% for the season. I always said LeBron doesn't make his teammates better. THat's why he always need legit allstars and hall of fame caliber players to underachieve in the finals.
I don't understand what K-Mart and everyone else are saying about LeBron stunting the young players growth. 1) It's every Individual players responsibility for to work, develop, and expand their own personal growth (no one else). 2) LeBron are a pass first superstar legend. 3) Every young players in the Lakers have all the opportunity to run and make plays. 4) Young players in the Lakers have all the green light on offense. So, why is it LeBron's fault if this clowns are not developing the way they should?
It's those individual young players fault if they don't develop and succeed in that environment. They need to step back and look at themselves and make an honest assessment. Find out what you need to work on and work on developing yourself. Don't be too big headed to ask question and learn. Everyone continues to learn, doesn't matter how old you are. As long as you are alive, we continue on learning. So, don't be afraid or too big headed to ask and learn.
Marmy40 his ball dominant play style turns players into spot up shooters
Clearly, you've never played basketball in your life.
Benjamin Franklin clearly you’re not watching the lakers this year...far to often he gives the ball to Ingram and he does nothing with it...he wants to be a mid range post player and isn’t crafty enough to create that space, so his shots are tougher...most of his points come off assist from bron or Lonzo...INGRAM IS NOT KD!!! He’ll never be that good...he can’t shoot as good as him and not as tall...no way he averages 23 pg...if he stunts so many players growth, who flourish without him, before or after...
You do know what "usage rate"means . Lebron's is among the highest in the league year after year . It means most of if not all the plays are run through him . He is the primary ballhandler....even tho' there's a point guard on the team. It means lebron is only productive when he has the ball( which is all the time) at the expense of the younger players' minutes and hence development. Any student of the game knows that lebron coming to the Lakers may help them win more games, and even get to the WCF... But at the cost of player development.
@@badrobotNG no it means the Lakers are only productive when lebron has the ball. They were all there last season for the most part, so what's so hard about them running the system they had last season when he's on the bench? Oh yeah they do and it doesn't pay dividends. Yet it's Lebron's fault they aren't growing? Get out of here
Man, I love Kobe and he's my favorite player ever, but he's the last person who should be talking about getting teammates involved.
+ he demanded a trade when he couldnt win without shaq lol. I remember he said about bron "you have to win with whatever you have" but no one reminded him he demanded a trade lol
Facts
Yannis Dejonghe he demanded a trade and it was denied, he didn’t team up with the 3rd best shooting guard of all time in Dwayne Wade and a prime Chris Bosh LOL
Everything Kobe said is facts....Lebron needs less minutes so he can go beast mode in the playoffs...Don't hate the message cos you hate the messenger...for the last 2 years the further the cavs went into the playoffs the more gased out Lebron became in third to fourth quarter end game situations... He needs less minutes so he can help the Lakers where it really counts. In the Playoffs.
@@NothingElseMattersJM you forgot Ray Allen top 3 shooter of all time the last 2 years.
That was real when Kmart was talking about the development of the young Lakers
So KD thinks playing with Lebron could be a toxic environment. I guess playing with a guy who challenges your manhood like Draymond Green did even though he is a champion can't be toxic. Boogie Cousins have yet to play yet.
KD wanna be the man he will always be number #2 I bet he praying curry go down so he can try to take over the team even if he get the money he want he knows if he leaves GS he will not win another ring
This dude K Mart is horrible At NBA analysis
Quinton Chaney bro I been saying this since he came on this show last time with some absolute trash comments. This time he literally admitted that he DID NOT WANT TO JOIN A WINNING TEAM WITH A WINNINB CULTURE, because he did NOT want to sacrifice going to the club on a tuesday. Bro you serious, he also he ain’t about team building exercises by saying I aint doing no 5am spin class
The reason the team does those things is because everybody there and everybody sacrificing, so that
Mindset can be translated kn the court. The heat big 3 all sacrificed for each other and won 2/4
Kenyon either to egotistical OR too selfish to adhere to that...cool bro...you’re the toxic one my man.
Since Kenyan was a collegian at Cincinnati he has been one of my all time favorite players. Dunkers from Clyde Drexler to Kevin (I'm so Jealous of Lebron James/need a superteam to win Durant) have all talked about his basketball prowess in glowing terms. Kenyan a gangster...? No way! He reminds me of Denzel in the movie American Gangster but only when wearing a suit. I thought the character had depth and was very likeable. 😉 I don't know who selects the guest for this show but there's an Emmy with your name on it. Great show as always.
Wow I wish Wiggins would've gotten a pass when Butler came and messed with his growth the same way Ingram is getting a pass with LeBron right now. And if not, why are we giving Ingram a pass? Because he needs the ball? I didn't see Kyrie under performing when Lebron went back to Cavs.
KD just mad cause he will never be at King James level .Hes gelous asf on Lebron .
keith thomas why are you yelling?
Can LeBron play in other systems?
Kd he play well with in every system as you can build.
i guess anyone can play well in a system with 4 other all stars
@@hymanye6243 ouais but I don't see anyone change your game because of KD style of play
Ngl fam what’s toxic is your spelling lol
I can’t take this guy seriously...his nickname is K-Mart....foh
SentientCentrist what kind of nickname would you expect from someone whose name is Kenyon Martin? Whatever the case of his nickname is he spoke the truth.
TheBlackSage7 he spoke the truth about what? He stated his opinion on what he perceived Miami’s team culture to be - based on what he heard. Did he speak to management or have his agent speak to management to better understand? Nope. He simplified it w his ignorance - which is why he has no hardware of any kind from Cincy to the pros.
@@hasanjonz lebron got a lot of hardware on the rings of the warriors, mavs, and spurs lmao
Sosh Vujisic congrats to him. He’s on the Mount Rushmore for the league. What’s your point?
Kenyon “know what I’m saying” Martin
So true
Kenyon get with it- YOU were the toxic one!!!
People who call KD insecure about this is just proving how insecure they are themselves about this dude. He said what every LeBron critic has been saying for the past few years and now someone who is universally hated can't say it even though he's right. Y'all just insecure about your savior LeBron and getting mad at what he said proves my point and his point about the LeBron slurping
Jason Francois
Bro read your post. You sound exactly like the people you’re describing.
The Isolated Male bro you’re an idiot.
Jason Francois KD is toxic, need more proof?
2 years later , he is right Brandon Ingram is Elite
I think these reporters / journalist s do their research before interviews because every time Kenyon Martin gets interviewed people always compliment him so he must like compliments!
Durant is a clown. He's a wannabe LeBron. He knew he couldn't beat LeBron alone so he jumped on OKCs bandwagon. He's a joke and never should be considered the best in the world. He's disqualified for life
lebron knew he couldnt beat paul pierce so he joined d wades bandwagon
So is Lebron. He's a bandwagoner too. He's disqualified as well.
Bkc 14 nah, the Cavs gave him no players to work with so he left to a team that would.
You'r apart of the toxic KD is talking about.
lebron couldn't beat anyone alone either, and massively underachieved as far as getting rings in miami. wasn't he supposed to get "not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6" when he was there? he got 2 with by far the most loaded team in the nba. kd just beat him at his own game
Who is this scrub Kenyon Martin? Had a couple of halfway decent years with the Nets and thats it -he just revealed why he was never a champion, he wanted to go out on Tuesday night in Miami rather than commit to a title.
Everything that they just said from 9:20 on about Branden Ingrim and playing with Lebron, can be applied to all of those players that the Cavs traded for last year.
The media has been obsessed with this man since he was a boy in school and they wonder why other players don't want that attention 24/7?
Sounds like the snake is jealous of lebron smh
How is he’s a snake ?
Joseph Voltaire he threw the last 2 games in the playoffs against golden state and then joined them a month later after he loss to them he has a burner account bashing his old teammates and now he's trying to prevent other stars from joining up to play with lebron k owing that he has the most stacked team ever lol
He’s always been jealous of Lebron because he’s realized even if he wins 5 rings with the warriors they still won’t measure to any of Lebron’s. Here’s a fun fact Even lebron’s final losses look better than Durant’s wins. Bron formed a team, Durant joined a proven winner and the winningest team 73-9 in league history.
Jax Ace
They both joined allstars to win rings. The fact you’re making excuses for Lebron is hilarious.
JEFFREY so that miami team had already won a championship and had the best record of all time before bron got there??? Oh yah no they didn’t, bosh also joindd because LBJ, ppl forget that
Also did miami have the two best shooter of ALL TIME? One of best coaches in his young career of all time?! No bro.....bron joining miami and kd joing warriors ain’t remotely similar
I do not think Kuzma needs the ball that much or at least that he knows how to play off the ball, the difference between him and Ingram is that Kuzma will try to run to the open space to draw in an assist from someone while Ingram does not move much and slows down the game when he gets the ball
I totally agree with Kenyon.
I don't know why as a basketball player you would leave Curry to play with Lebron.
The game just seems to be more fun around Curry than Lebron.
Sure it's more fun joining 73 team with the best backcourt shooting guards in the history. snake knows best way shortcutting to the rings same way as you do my little indian boy.. pathetic
Sohaib Jamil true
Bro that’s the whole irony here, KD not gonna leave to join bron imo, but my point exactly, WHY WOULD HE LEAVE?! Hes on one of the best teams of all time, maybe the most unselfish superstar of all time, and who is BETTER than durant at winning!!!!
But it seems like he don’t wanna be there....he got what he wanted, easy cple rings, now he can breathe easier when he joins another team and never wins again....
Here they come to stick up for their savior lol
who LeBron? when LeBron retires you will have nothing to talk about enjoy it while you have it
Sonson Godjesuslover Jr. when he retires we’ll finally have coverage of other teams. Sports media will be great again
@@What5Poppin5lime yeah but seriously you all will die, and you will try find somebody else to hate on
Kenyon Martin wit dem ppls
"Kenyon not gonna be there" 😆😆