In my next life I want to come back as a persona of Suzannah Lipscomb….. I want to study history, in old English, French, What a life, exploring the most interesting people and times of England
I hope you never stop working with Dr. Lipscomb, she’s amazing! Also wish you could work with Lucy Worsley. Maybe it’s not too unlikely now that she’s not working at Hampton Court anymore
The one I really empathize with is Catherine Howard. She was basically executed for being an abused child, then slandered for it. At least the other wives were old enough to know what was happening to them.
@@jaimiesalid3141 Why? I don’t think OP is boasting anyway, but I think it’s pretty cool to trace your ancestry back to well known 16th century historical figures.
I’m sorry but you are mistaken Mary-1499 George-1504 Anne-1507 Mary was 20 at her wedding in 1520, this is a known historical fact. She would have not have been 13 at her own wedding
@@morgansmith7365 I'll stick to what my ancestors passed down, thank you. Mary was never the french King's mistress and it is possible no e of her children were Henry viii's.
yes that’s correct, Mary was never the mistress of Francis and both Catherine and Henry were her husbands children. She was indeed the mistress of Henry for quite some time. The same proposition was made to Anne a few years later, which she refused. I mean all respect and kindness in my response, but I’m sorry, those are simply not the correct years of birth. Mary would not have served Mary Tudor in France at 5 years old and she was not married at 13. Mary’s year of birth is in 1499.
I’ve one question for Suzannah….. does she believe Catherine Aragon consummated her first marriage to Arthur? I cannot believe it wasn’t…. Also, isn’t the first night of a diplomatic marriage observed to make sure it was consummated ?
Spelling wasn't standardised yet at the time. It was also spelt Bullen and Bulynn. Standard spellings really only took hold when the printing press with movable type became widely adopted.
The 1501 theory is wrong, in my opinion. To take a letter that she wrote in about 1514, say that it couldn't possibly be written by a seven year old, and yet also say that the letter is sloppily written, both in terms of penmanship and her grasp of the French language, is contradictory. How is this an example, then, of a brilliant, exceptional young woman of 13 if the letter is such a disaster? Look at her own daughter, and the letters she wrote around 7 and then 13 and make a comparison. Clearly, if she was well educated and as gifted as people say she was... gifted enough to be given a prime position over her older sister... it's not implausible she was only 7 when she wrote it. Also, there is a misunderstanding that she was sent to Margaret's count as a maid of honour, but this is incorrect. She almost certainly was sent to be educated in the royal nursery. This letter was actually written in the palace where Margaret's nephew and nieces resided in for the bulk of the year. In France, she became exceptionally close to Claude sister, Renée, who was born in 1510... so much so that years after Anne's notorious end when she was 'the scandal of Christendom', Renée wrote that she would always have a soft spot for Elizabeth because she was such good friends with her mother, Anne. Now, would this be true of two young girls with a nine year age difference, or a three year difference? Sorry, Dr Lipscomb, but she was far more likely to have been born in 1507, which jives with other historical records that suggest this, and makes more sense in terms of Anne's age when Henry was courting and married her. If she was still unmarried at age 25 by the time Henry first noticed her, she was already pretty mature to be considered as a royal bride, especially for a man who was desperate for an heir. And to go through with a marriage, no matter how much in love with her he was, when she was already 32? Nah... not buying it.
Reading the comments on this video has made me realise what a bunch of self riotous little know it alls there are, thinking they are above a professor on history, while they sit at home behind they keyboards 😅😅
What's wrong with historians? You'd think it would be requirement of the job to master the various forms of past tense that the English language has given us to talk about history. But no, like novice language students, they can only limp along in the present tense. Sad.
I would say this is a style they are using to try and place the viewer actually in the time they are discussing. I wouldn't dream of calling a Dr of history a novice language student. Obviously it's just not your style of presentation. Sad .
@@lisamgreenleaf But the viewer ISN'T in the time they are discussing because that would make it News and Current Affairs, wouldn't it? The point of HISTORY is that it's in the past, not the present. It might make marginally more sense if they could be consistent, but some part of the brain realises that it's nonsensical to use the present tense to talk about the past, so they slide around from the present to the past and back again without seeming to realise how ridiculous they sound. If ever you hear a REAL person describing an historical event (e.g. soldiers talking about their experiences in the first or second world wars), they NEVER use the present tense. That's because they are correctly oriented in space and time. Any historian who can't achieve this is in the wrong job. HISTORY is what happened in the PAST.
@@lisamgreenleaf Shakespeare used the past tense to talk about the past. So do period dramas. Nobody uses the present tense to talk about the past. I don't. You don't. Why do historians?
@patdent why are you so literal? Does it confuse you? A quick bit of research says it's a common technique used to create immediacy for story telling, helping to engage the audience, called historical present. I was right. I don't see an issue here and that's the end of it.
@annaelisavettavonnedozza9607 RIGHT...?!? I want to hear about warfare and carnage, not about how she couldn't get preggers and whatnot... Something was off about the bird's minge-- so what...?!?
@@joeneil5485 Who forces you to watch videos/topics you have no interest in? No one. Who are you tell (historic) YT content creators what to cover; are you their boss? 🙄
Oh please....the reformation threw thousands of monastic tenants out on their ears without warning, because all those lands were given off to Henry's toadies, along with all the poor and sick who were being taken care of by the church., along with all the educational establishments the church ran. Henry didn't ever reform himself....he continued to observe the Catholic rites till his death, he just became the boss instead of the pope. The monies from the churches properties were a major goal. Henry was basically robbing his own people to pay for his stupid wars and hiding it behind religion and the divorce.
Anne's interest in the Reformation was mostly about securing her offspring's claim to the throne. She was not particularly devout. Protestants shouldn't make her a saint for annoying the Pope any more than Catholics should make Mary I a saint for terrorizing Protestant clergy. Let's not be at each other's throats over religious wars from 500 years ago. I'm Catholic but I have nothing against Protestants.
You know the street urchins in Oliver Twist? Grabbing up and giving the church property caused massive poverty. That property is the social welfare system. That was basically stolen resulting in 100s of years of poverty for the lower class.
Suzannah Lipscomb documentaries are among the best whatever she decides to cover, this one included!
I love her work.
Here here!
Completely agree and I was thinking the exact same thing myself. She’s absolutely wonderful and her books are brilliant too.
I could listen to her all day!
I absolutely love Suzannah Lipscomb, everything she does is filled with such passion and energy I can't help but be enthralled by her every word
We love her in Canada too!
Me too! She’s my FAVORITE historian.
Such a treat to watch this!! I thought I'd seen EVERYTHING that had to do with Anne Boleyn, and then I stumbled upon this episode!! So 😊 happy!!!
Suzannah presented the story of Anne Boleyn beautifully, just loved this video, well done Suzannah
In my next life I want to come back as a persona of Suzannah Lipscomb….. I want to study history, in old English, French, What a life, exploring the most interesting people and times of England
I hope you never stop working with Dr. Lipscomb, she’s amazing! Also wish you could work with Lucy Worsley. Maybe it’s not too unlikely now that she’s not working at Hampton Court anymore
Owen Emerson is a very jolly and cuddly looking historian. I always enjoy listening to him as well ☺️
I believe that Anne's inscription "The Time Will Come" has a religious, not a secular, meaning.
It might have a meaning both religiously and secularly
Argentinian here, never tired of watching these docs, esp Tudor's.
I could listen to her all day!
I love this history and learning more about her and more ❤
Personally, I prefer Catherine of Aragon but Anne is a fascinating character.
Love both! Can’t stand Henry.
The one I really empathize with is Catherine Howard. She was basically executed for being an abused child, then slandered for it. At least the other wives were old enough to know what was happening to them.
@@lorianabanana6066I agree. Her guardians should have watched out for her...
Excellent, highly interesting, love to see more, 👍👍
My favourite Queen 👸 ❤❤ R.I.P Anne
Good this. Thanks!
Nice one Prof Liscombe and team. 🌟👍
I'm descended from Mary Boleyn. Our family legend says Anne was born in 1503, George in 1506 and Mary in 1507.
Nothing to boast about
@@jaimiesalid3141 Why? I don’t think OP is boasting anyway, but I think it’s pretty cool to trace your ancestry back to well known 16th century historical figures.
I’m sorry but you are mistaken
Mary-1499
George-1504
Anne-1507
Mary was 20 at her wedding in 1520, this is a known historical fact. She would have not have been 13 at her own wedding
@@morgansmith7365 I'll stick to what my ancestors passed down, thank you. Mary was never the french King's mistress and it is possible no e of her children were Henry viii's.
yes that’s correct, Mary was never the mistress of Francis and both Catherine and Henry were her husbands children. She was indeed the mistress of Henry for quite some time. The same proposition was made to Anne a few years later, which she refused. I mean all respect and kindness in my response, but I’m sorry, those are simply not the correct years of birth. Mary would not have served Mary Tudor in France at 5 years old and she was not married at 13. Mary’s year of birth is in 1499.
Now they say Ann didn't bring the French hood to court that it's already been there but I believe she made it more popular
The dark shadow in the window at about the 1:13 - 1:15 mark as Dr Lipscomb is talking in the lit window above her head.....did anyone else see it?
Yes I see it
What a beautiful narrative.
Never gets old! We all love Anne!!!
I’ve one question for Suzannah….. does she believe Catherine Aragon consummated her first marriage to Arthur? I cannot believe it wasn’t…. Also, isn’t the first night of a diplomatic marriage observed to make sure it was consummated ?
In Spain, it was. They actually would check the sheets of the couple to look for blood.
I agree with you!
Queen Catherine stated before God she hadn’t. I don’t think a fervent Catholic would have lied.
@@annaelisavettavonnedozza9607course she would’ve if it would work in her favour
In France it was. How awful.
Queen Anne ahead of her time she would have been a typical Vogue model.
Brilliant
I’ve seen her name spelled Bollin or Bullin, one of these.
Spelling wasn't standardised yet at the time. It was also spelt Bullen and Bulynn. Standard spellings really only took hold when the printing press with movable type became widely adopted.
Video starts at 1:29
Would have loved to sit down and talk with her.
If she could know the future! She will not have accepted to be a queen!?!
interesting
32:23 May 23, 1533…
The older K of A got, the more her slight Hapsburg Jaw showed...or, at least, the more it was portrayed.
Anne was the “It” girl of the 1520’s. Not a beauty, but loaded with sex appeal.
❤
Why is the mannequin representing Anne at Hever castle so small? Was she truly that petite?
English women generally are pretty petite
Annoying background noise
uploaded 8 days ago? This exhibition is a year old and long over.
And?? No one forces you to watch videos you're not interested in.
The 1501 theory is wrong, in my opinion. To take a letter that she wrote in about 1514, say that it couldn't possibly be written by a seven year old, and yet also say that the letter is sloppily written, both in terms of penmanship and her grasp of the French language, is contradictory. How is this an example, then, of a brilliant, exceptional young woman of 13 if the letter is such a disaster? Look at her own daughter, and the letters she wrote around 7 and then 13 and make a comparison. Clearly, if she was well educated and as gifted as people say she was... gifted enough to be given a prime position over her older sister... it's not implausible she was only 7 when she wrote it. Also, there is a misunderstanding that she was sent to Margaret's count as a maid of honour, but this is incorrect. She almost certainly was sent to be educated in the royal nursery. This letter was actually written in the palace where Margaret's nephew and nieces resided in for the bulk of the year. In France, she became exceptionally close to Claude sister, Renée, who was born in 1510... so much so that years after Anne's notorious end when she was 'the scandal of Christendom', Renée wrote that she would always have a soft spot for Elizabeth because she was such good friends with her mother, Anne. Now, would this be true of two young girls with a nine year age difference, or a three year difference? Sorry, Dr Lipscomb, but she was far more likely to have been born in 1507, which jives with other historical records that suggest this, and makes more sense in terms of Anne's age when Henry was courting and married her. If she was still unmarried at age 25 by the time Henry first noticed her, she was already pretty mature to be considered as a royal bride, especially for a man who was desperate for an heir. And to go through with a marriage, no matter how much in love with her he was, when she was already 32? Nah... not buying it.
Huge girl crush. 😻 😂
😱
It was not worth it.
@@LaurieValdez-zk3dyHow do you mean?
Reading the comments on this video has made me realise what a bunch of self riotous little know it alls there are, thinking they are above a professor on history, while they sit at home behind they keyboards 😅😅
You can't change history. That's an oxymoron.
No.
History being written by the victor, it can be reanalyzed. No one would have dared speak up for Henry's wives when he was alive.
History is regularly rewritten. Anyone who doesn't understand that is naive in the extreme and will always have a flawed view of the past.
That expression drives me crazy too.
I am wondering, wasn't there an artist who could depict her real face. In every picture she looks different
Very difficult to accept female "historians" today; always a rather large crumb of sexism; women MUST revise. I find that Suzannah typifies this.
???
Rambo > Anne Boleyn 💪.
What's wrong with historians? You'd think it would be requirement of the job to master the various forms of past tense that the English language has given us to talk about history. But no, like novice language students, they can only limp along in the present tense. Sad.
I would say this is a style they are using to try and place the viewer actually in the time they are discussing. I wouldn't dream of calling a Dr of history a novice language student. Obviously it's just not your style of presentation. Sad .
@@lisamgreenleaf But the viewer ISN'T in the time they are discussing because that would make it News and Current Affairs, wouldn't it? The point of HISTORY is that it's in the past, not the present. It might make marginally more sense if they could be consistent, but some part of the brain realises that it's nonsensical to use the present tense to talk about the past, so they slide around from the present to the past and back again without seeming to realise how ridiculous they sound. If ever you hear a REAL person describing an historical event (e.g. soldiers talking about their experiences in the first or second world wars), they NEVER use the present tense. That's because they are correctly oriented in space and time. Any historian who can't achieve this is in the wrong job. HISTORY is what happened in the PAST.
@patdent so everything that has been needs to be spoken in past tense for it to make sense to you? Shakespeare? Period dramas? Omg get offfffff
@@lisamgreenleaf Shakespeare used the past tense to talk about the past. So do period dramas. Nobody uses the present tense to talk about the past. I don't. You don't. Why do historians?
@patdent why are you so literal? Does it confuse you? A quick bit of research says it's a common technique used to create immediacy for story telling, helping to engage the audience, called historical present. I was right. I don't see an issue here and that's the end of it.
You lot are funny sometimes this woman seems like shes talking just to talk and saying the same thing like 5 times in different ways to sound smart
Your username...Lol
Okay, now go troll elsewhere.
It's called telly, and her way of presenting the subject makes her very accessible to many people.
18 minutes in I realized I don't give a shit about Anne Boleyn...
Hahahahaha you’re like “why the F am I watching this” 😂
@annaelisavettavonnedozza9607 RIGHT...?!? I want to hear about warfare and carnage, not about how she couldn't get preggers and whatnot... Something was off about the bird's minge-- so what...?!?
@@joeneil5485more likely it was henrys dick causing the problems
@@joeneil5485what were you expecting when you selected a video about anne boleyn…
@@joeneil5485 Who forces you to watch videos/topics you have no interest in? No one.
Who are you tell (historic) YT content creators what to cover; are you their boss? 🙄
All HAIL SAINT Ann, who stood up against the Roman Catholic church
Oh please....the reformation threw thousands of monastic tenants out on their ears without warning, because all those lands were given off to Henry's toadies, along with all the poor and sick who were being taken care of by the church., along with all the educational establishments the church ran. Henry didn't ever reform himself....he continued to observe the Catholic rites till his death, he just became the boss instead of the pope. The monies from the churches properties were a major goal. Henry was basically robbing his own people to pay for his stupid wars and hiding it behind religion and the divorce.
Pretty sure a woman who got pregnant out of wedlock can’t be made a saint
Anne's interest in the Reformation was mostly about securing her offspring's claim to the throne. She was not particularly devout. Protestants shouldn't make her a saint for annoying the Pope any more than Catholics should make Mary I a saint for terrorizing Protestant clergy. Let's not be at each other's throats over religious wars from 500 years ago. I'm Catholic but I have nothing against Protestants.
Def not team Anne
You know the street urchins in Oliver Twist? Grabbing up and giving the church property caused massive poverty. That property is the social welfare system. That was basically stolen resulting in 100s of years of poverty for the lower class.