I’ve been using M50’s for almost 10 years for home studio audiobook recording. Been working exclusively from home for the past 4. Changed the ear pads. I like the sound. Louder than others I have. I’m listening for unwanted noises, so they are great for that. The shallow eat cup can start to hurt after a while. Feels like my ears are pressing on the speaker screen. But I wear them for 5-6 hour days.
the connection on the left side becomes loose and the left speaker stops working after some time, then I must dismantle the cable from the headset and connect it. then it works. is this the case with all audio technica m50x headsets?
If you’re watching this channel I feel like you’re aware of this but for anyone just looking for a review of these DT 770 headphones - THESE ARE NOT FOR CASUAL LISTENING. They are BRUTALLY honest and unforgiving to any and every little mistake in your performance, your mix, etc. They are meant for “critical listening”, not “enjoyable listening”. If that’s what you’re looking for they are fantastic. Well produced music WILL sound good, but you would be surprised how much of the music you listen to was produced poorly lol.
All headphones with high sensitivity can show the difference between poorly mixed tracks and well produced tracks. Just depends on your taste. Just like how they can show the difference between a good quality audio track and a bad quality track. Thank you
I had the M50's for several years and they were great. Had to bend the top headband out because it squeezed a bit too much and gave me a headache after a couple hours of use. The headband also just started breaking down, so I had to get a cover, which also wasn't the most comfortable, but beat having little black pieces in my hair. lol I also upgraded to thicker, softer ear pads, which felt great, but felt like I lost a little bit of volume. I bought an Audient EVO 4 last year and decided to get the 770s (80 Ohm) and have had zero issues with them. They're incredibly comfortable and sound phenomenal. Even though the M50s are fantastic, I'd definitely recommend the 770s over them, personally!
I own both the M50s and 770 80 ohms. The 770s needed amping for my setup, but they are far better than M50s. Also the velour pads on the 770s are heaven compared to the M50s pads
I tried both( and also 30 something other headphones) m50s weren't even close to my consideration. As someone who works on a field ( film and tv recording), sennheiser hd25 and 26 are gold standard, but they are too uncomfortable for me ( I also have big head and big ears). Sound quality wise for my purposes next best thing was shure srh440( they don't have boosted low and high end, mids are reasonably precise, which is most important for recording dialogue) but they are of so bad build quality (mine broke after 10 days of use) that i had to find something else. at the end i have settled with the dt770s. build quality, reliability and comfort are top notch, but i had to accept some compromises in the sound department
I love my M50. Own mine for 9 years and they still sound as the day I bought them. I was sold by the flat response. Love your videos. I have learned a lot from them. Thank you.
I have an old pair of 770 Pro's, I've had them for about 16 years and they're still going strong. I've recently bought a pair of 1990 Pro's and these are wonderful for hearing fine detail in the mix and I've come to prefer them over the 770's but I use still use the older cans when I want to work for a long while as I find them less taxing on the ears.
As a M50X/M50XBT user (audio monitoring, general use) the stock pads I've never used for more than I think 2 days then I switched to flat leather/suade/hybrid pads (7USD each on aliexpress) are the reason I keep 3 pairs of these handy is each set of pads has a different alteration to the sound profile, now one thing I have to recommend is get hearing tests done properly before buying any headphones as knowing your physical data sheet allows you to be-able to judge equipment without having gaping blindspots. In my 7 years of using them headbands get replaced every 1-1.5 years just a simple de-solder job, pads every year or xmas you can wash pads but the PU sheads too fast. One thing I will note is 2.5mm locking was changed to 3.5mm non-locking and gen 1 BT is micro USB and gen 2 BT is type-c for power and these do hold charge for months and do last 2-3 days of use but BT is useless on windows directly so external transmitters are needed if you want to use it (I just have patch in points around the room for cables) though on macos and linux I've had pretty fluid experience with BT but its slightly lacking the depth of direct copper to a DAC. I will note here these are really easy sets to modify for balanced input. Now I will say the M50X are terrible for portability, personally I use a pair of pelter comtacts with geal pads and BT IEMs normally airpod pros when its just out and about this provides 100% sound isolation due to air gap, but full 360 position mapped amplified outside audio without taking the headphones off peltors are great for hearing protection with cut off ranges, I have wanted to make a pair with M50X drivers but its one of those long term some day projects.
I am using the M50XBT2. After replacing the upgraded headphone cable with an earphone amplifier, it not only listens to music at home, but also makes travel (Bluetooth) and entertainment more convenient.
Thanks for your review. I'm a big fan of BD headphones. I have the DT 331 and before that I had the DT 330 MK II. Amazing comfort. I have a big head and large ears and I can wear them for hours over my glasses and feel no pain or fatigue at all.
I've been very pleased with my DT 770 Pros 80 OHM version paired with a GOXLR Mini. Mostly use for gaming and they work great for this purpose in large part due to how comfortable they are even for extended periods of time.
Thanks for doing the comparison. I totally agree with your findings. I have been using the DT 770 Pro for, like, 20 years now, and they have served me well. However, when the left channel went a couple of weeks ago I thought about repairing them, but the pair was so worn out and miserable that I decided to fork out the money for a replacement instead. Happily discovering that the DT 770 Pro was still in production, I went with those again without a second thought. I use the Sonarworks plugin for frequency correction, and it really makes a difference! Sonarworks has a generic correction curve readily available for a lot of headphones including the DT 770 Pro although you can get a pair of individually calibrated DT 770 Pro directly from Sonarworks with their own, unique calibration. Me being a happy amateur, and the calibrated DT 770 Pros being almost twice as expensive as a stock pair, I just decided to go with the 'standard' calibration - it works for me. Now I can get an unimaginable amount of sonic detail, even when mixing on headphones!
I have the 80-ohm DT 770 Pro and they sound great, comfy, and I really liked that spaced-out sound. Just makes sitting back in the chair and listening to a well-mastered track that much more enjoyable imo
@@Markisbeatz355 i had both and they both sound great and obviously it depends on you , but honestly for music production i had few big problems with dt770 250ohm that m50x solved them all
I love both for tracking, no problems either way. I have had reliability issues with the 770s especially at the cable. DT 1990 for mixing and mastering are stellar.
what was your issue with the cable. they are great headphones and that bothers me. i wont have studio monitors soon so i really need dt770 soundstage as well.
@@supernotnatural i had an issue with the cable, it was very long, and not detachable but i spent about $80 plus shipping to get someone to mod a detachable 3.5mm jack
They make larger pads for the M50s for less than $20 that are much bigger than the originals and it actually improved the sound isolation and also the bass response. Much much better seal after I upgraded those pads.
Yeah I've gotten my ear pads from Wicked Cushions purely for comfort reasons. They also sell some covers for the headbands which stops them from becoming all flakey over time.
I have had the DT 770's for 12 years. I have the smooth long cord (non-coil). I love them for everything in the studio and tracking. HD 280 Pro's are fabulous as well, I use those for my main headphones while browsing the internet on the laptop. They can double as great studio head phones if I have an artist tracking with the long corded DT 770's
280 pros sound good but man, they are uncomfortable to me. They are like putting my head in a vice! I've tried everything to loosen them up with no success. I use a pair of Steele Series for gaming and they are so comfortable. If you know of way to make the hd280's more comfortable, let me know.
Si solo los quiero para disfrutar la música en mi celular cual de esos es mejor? Se que no están hechos para eso, pero quiero saber cual de esos dos seria mejor para escuchar musica
Currently using the M30x. You sold the DT 770s to me on the comfort sections. Insta buy, cause you know the same pain I've been living with while using the Audio Technicas. YES, them ears do hurt after a while. Thank you.
I own 990s and m50xs. I use them in parallel, but the m50x is way more fun to write on while the 990 pros are better for mixing. I use HS8s, 990 pros and m50xs
I have the ATH-M50x and recently bought the DT 990 Pro (Open Back) because I like hearing the natural drums along with the headphone mix when performing or practicing, plus I can hear my boys playing while listening to content like this video.
I have both! Like you said, I think that it's easier to listen different elements in the track with DT's and the ear cups are superior. I just happen to have problems with referencing while using DT's because they sound so spacious. I absolutely love the spacious sound, but I have to check my mix with monitors and also in-ear plugs to get the right stereo image balance. Still loving them after six years and yea the ear fabric looks cursed after that time :D I use M50's only for DJ:ing. Cups have perfect rotation and the sound is so nice that I usually just love to jam with the headphones on when performing.
My friend, I am eternally grateful for your helpful review. I'm new to your channel and glad to have found you. Keep up the good work. Good luck and all the best!
@@akshayjuneja1987 also, there are more expensive high quality ones made specifically for AT-M50x, from Dekoni and Wicked Cushions, Brainwavz. Can't go wrong with any of them!
I forgot to mention that one of the reasons they are so great is the thickness and density of the padding, plus the size of the opening - it keep your ears farther from the drivers and creates a lot more space.
I wish the Beyerdynamic would have detachable cables. That's the thing I really dislike about them. These would be my first "expensive" (for me) headphones, therefore I would like to use them for years to come. I'm aware that the cable is pretty well made, but I still feel safer with a detachable cable.
@@supernotnatural A DT770 would be my literal dream. German made, superior quality. But the cable thing is so infuriating. It would be so cheap and easy to do but they refuse to do it.
I've been using the DT 770 250ohm as my only studio headphones for about a year now. I just bought the ATH-M50x intending them to just be my listening headphones while I travel. But now I use the 770s for writing, and both for mixing. I find the ATH give me a better grasp of the bass on most systems. While the 770 is great for when you need to reign in the highs
DT770s are by far the better headphones in my opinion. I've been mixing with them (80 ohms), and (obviously depending on the mixer) the midrange translates accurately and gives you a better soundstage than the M50s. That said, this is easily one of the best comparison videos between the two. I would highly recommend the M50s in situations such as live sound or on-set recording since the swivel cups and comfort around your neck cannot compete with the 770s. Another point to also note is purpose. DT770s are definitely better for mixing, recording and mastering due to the frequency response. The M50s less so. The M40s are much more reliable for accurate mixes, but that being said... Using either headphones for longer periods of time will get you accustomed to the sonic signature, and if you use reference tracks, this shouldn't be an issue at all. Great video!!
@@mrbartek3122 i should specify more clearly i mean studio speakers aka studio monitors heh, dt770s are good but it's always better mixing with speakers, the headphones themselfs are damn good i have them myself
I've used the DT770 250 ohm for years. Awesome headphones that I can wear for days. Seriously, the number of times that I've forgotten they're even on my head till I get up and yank them. 1000% on the extension cable. An absolute must.
I have the DT-770's in the 250-ohm version. I generally hate headphones because they always cause significant pain in the ear cartilage after resting there for an extended period. I was drawn to the idea that the DT-770's went *around* the ear and, sure enough, it makes a big difference.
I own both of these, I wear glasses, and I live in a significantly tropical climate where heat and humidity is high over a third of the year. The ear pads of the 'pleather' are inferior to the plush, however you can easily halve or quarter the timeframes for longevity mentioned on both of these in this environment. One other thing I should mention is that the rubber/plastic sheaths on the thin wiring of the DT770 80hms quickly deteriorates after a certain point in this climatic setting. That said, electrical tape and silicon wrap has temporarily fixed this in an inelegant, but effective, manner on my DT770s. I'm really pleased with the sound quality of both of these, however neither are really built to last in a tropical clime. Thankfully, both companies provide spare parts. Overall, I still tend towards the DT770 80Ohms as my preferred option if wired, but the bluetooth version of the MX50x definitely has advantages in non-critical listening environments. I should point out that I use Sonarworks Reference software (non-sponsored) for each of these to balance out any ingrained idiosyncrasies that come with each headphone when mixing/mastering.
I've been using my M50X for voiceover recording and mixing for the past 8 years and really enjoy them. However, I've always wanted to try Beyer Dynamic headphones but didn't like the attached cable. Now that they make the DT-700 Pro X with a detachable cable, I'm seriously considering getting a pair! Thank you for a comprehensive review!
@@jorden6153 Yes I do even though they emphasize bass frequencies. I tried the DT-700 Pro X headphones and really liked how they sound. However, the clamping force was too much and I couldn't wear them for very long and returned them. Very disappointing!
@@Bassic778 hmmm alright, well thanks for letting me know! I’m trying to get in producing and mixing so I can make a song, but don’t know which pair of headphones is a good investment. I keep seeing that the ATHM50X is only good for monitoring and not producing and mixing
@@jorden6153 The best thing to do is find a store that will allow you to return headphones if they don't work out. That way, you can try out different headphones until you find the ones that you like.
Hey out of these 2 which would be better suited for someone that just wants to plug the headset in directly to my macbook and produce phonk and trap beats?
Thanks for the video! I had my m50s for about 5 years and 3 of them I used to hate them because of the comfort issues like what you've mentioned. Then, I got myself two sets of alternative earpads - one like those on 770s and another that is more like a foamy thick pillow - and I never noticed much fatigue ever since. 99% of time I use those 770s-style pads and they enhance both comfort and, to my liking, sound. Great stuff and a rather cheap upgrade.
@@user-mb8rf7qk5q Some really nice ones are Brainwavvz Prostock ear pads but they’re really pricey (for me at least). A great cheaper alternative would be ZMF cowhide pads. Otherwise, you could literally just stretch out the stock ear pads overnight.
@@user-mb8rf7qk5q not really, i've basically searched for m50 earpads on aliexpress and picked ones that seemed best in terms of looks, expected feel and effect, seller reliability and reviews
I didn't get the 770s because of many reports a read of the left channel going out. I ramped up a bit, and got the DT 880 Pros, and they sound good and are very comfortable,
I am a dialogue editor and using the AT and even though I like their response very much, it hurts my head when I have my glasses on :) so gotta agree with the comfort issue. Thanks for the video as always!
Agree with the “on ear” comment for the ATs. My pads were dying so I just replaced them with a thicker pad which pulled them off of my ears. It made them WAAAAY more comfortable. As I am primarily a live guy these fit my bill more than the 770s. Really though? Can’t go wrong with either.
I can't imagine how you've found 770's more detailed. I've tried them after my M40x's and… they are just dull in every possible way. If you prefer comfort all you need is just to change the pads on M40/M50. I chose ZMF cowhide pads and they are phenomenon, I can wear them for days. Plus they add a lot of stage which M40's and M50's lack of. Well, I guess everyone's ears and audio perceptions are really that different.
U might be interested to know: M40 review (vs Sont 7506, but really it is against itself since both are compared directly to a source material) th-cam.com/video/udLoAV7YmjA/w-d-xo.html Sonic Sense is no more, but they did the best and most accurate reviews, IMHO, because they didn't use "golden eared" opinion to say what sounds accurate, they actually compare out vs the music source so u can hear how different the headphones or speakers sound vs the original music. Literally no reviewer does this.
@@moskva-kassiopeya that they are, it's really sad because after Sonic Sense channel ended, NOBODY reviews speakers like this. They still go with the words of a golden eared reviewer who might have 30 years in the review game, but has been doing it wrong the whole time. Anytime someone tells me, at least in a pro capacity they like 'x' headphones or iem's or speakers, and says yes they are very accurate and detailed, and they don't evaluate like this, they are full of shit. They are evaluating from memory, which is pretty much impossible. Now that only applies to pro level stuff , for producers and such, where accuracy is utmost. We have to know what we do to our mixes is exactly what we do to our mixes. Edit: sorry for the typos, lol
I have both (80 ohm DT770) and severely disagree. To me, the DT770 is slightly more detailed to the M40x. With the better imaging and the much better soundstage, the DT770 has a far greater instrument separation. And sound to me far from boring, they have a very present bass and highs. Bass is also much better than m40x's, much more texturized.
I have tried the DT 770 Pro in both 80 and 250 Ohm. Recommended them a few times to happy recipients who prefer listening to music like Jazz or Classical Music. Also tried a few Sennheisers, Sonys, Koss, Bose and Bower Wilkins Headphones just to mention a few that are either a popular choice or really good on their own. Notable mention... the Koss Porta Pros always amaze me as a compact on Ear Headphone. But back to those two legendary Headphones ... i just bought my third pair of M50s ... my second one beeing the BT2 Variant ...which truly sounds like it is indeed wired... if you use LDAC 960kbps. My original pair of M50s was now 14 years old and i have used it at least a few hours every day... at home, on the go ... just always. Why did i replace them for a new pair of M50 (in the M50x Gunmetal variant :))? Because they sound so much more fun... they work for films, also Jazz and Classical Music ... although the sound stage is not nearly as wide as on the DT 770 Pros or the DT990 for that matter and the clarity is also not as defined. But exactly this clarity is for my preferred types of music too much, too airy,... i love that DnB, Techno, Rap and Trap or any type of EDM sounds like you are in the club. Huge Speaker style bass, nothing distorted, nice but tight soundstage that can become quite a bit wider with the proper recording. This btw. also makes them quite useable for fast FPS Shooter Games... positional audio is still decent while explosions sound like real explosions. Airier Headphones or the good sounding but very fragile Steelseries Headsets do not reproduce mids and especially low frequencies quite punchy but still not overexposed like the M50 do. Back to my final Audio verdict as i drifted over to why i also like to use them for really everything else. I like my audio clean, neutral and undistorted but still dirty, so when the fat baseline hits, it really hits you. So i have the peace in mind that i do not care if i listen to Simon & Garfunkel, Lil John, A$AP Rocky, The Prodigy, John Spencer Blues Explosion, ELO, Justice, Die Antwoord, Dj Shadow, Slipknot, Trampsta, Massive Attack, Dj Fresh, Autechre, Chicago, Schoolboy Q and whatnot... it all just sounds so right. Not only clean but also fun. Mind you the DT 770s will manage to play quite a few of these Artists just fine too,... but take the song Bassline Junkie from Dizzee Rascal ... the bass will not "be buzzin" on the DT 770 Pros ... so that is definately a song that sounds just weird on the DT-770 Pro. John Spencer also sounds in general nicer on the M50s although the DT770 also do a good job but they do create a different experience for the listener. So if you want a "always on" wide soundstage with pristine separation (perfect to dissect every single instrument track) and brilliant treble ... go get the DT 770 Pro´s ... they do feel more comfortable and a bit more premium. But i just cannot quit the M50s ... they sound so much more fun to me and when i need some bangers instead of the 4th coffee... the DT 770 just do not cut it. Comfort was a problem in the end with my 14 year old ones ... but both new ones feel really nice. At the very first day i should have given the Headband a little strech as the fit will hurt after a few hours if you have a rather big head like me. Now a few days in this does not bother me. Quite curious ... the Earpads from the BT2DS Variant are quite noticeable softer and feel really nice throughout a 10 hours office day (Mic is really really good for Teams and i can dual pair my phone and notebook). Still the M50 Earpads will be comfortable enough, even for longer sessions as long as they are fresh, be sure to replace them as soon as you feel the inner cup putting pressure on your ears. There are also quite a few high quality after market earcups available for the M50s ... but that sounds like a research of its own which i have been too lazy to do yet.
I recently bought the 32ohm 770's and they are pretty good. I can see how recording studios love these because they are very revealing. A bad recording will stand out like a sore thumb on these which is good if you work in a studio but maybe less desirable if you just want to casually listen to music. Also if you are not planning on using them on a mixing desk or headphone amplifier you should not buy the 80 or 250 ohm version of these. There is a lot of misinformation out there and I can see how people would be led to believe that more ohms=better quality.
I just ordered the 80 ohm version just because I wasn't ready to invest in a higher quality DAC and amp to hand the 250 version so I got a more average DAC/amp combo. I wanted the 880s for the semi open configuration, but those only came in 32, 250, and 600 ohm options. Really funny because I was researching about ohms in regards to headphones and what they were earlier in the week. A few days later my engineering class went over Ohm's Law with the science and mathematics behind them.
I've used the dt770 pro (250ohm) for about 13 years until I moved to a free standing house where I could use speakers without bothering my neighbours 3 years ago. During the 13 years I've also bought the sennheuser hd595 that's a little lighter and airy, due the the open backed design vs closed design of the 770. The 595 is so light you often forget it's there. I used it on a diy headphone amp that could drive 600 ohm loads. The 770 could play so loud without distortion that you'd blow your ears off without noticing it, truly an on stage headphones. The 770 base is detailed and well defined, on the hd595 too but it's slightly thinner but very close. Later I bought the dt770 80 ohms as I used one pair in the living room and one on the go with my smartphone, at work and upstairs. It's hard to distinguish between the 250 and 80 ohms, pretty much equal to me on a headphone amp. But on 32 ohm devices the 80 ohms has stronger base and plays higher volumes. The 770 250 developed a crackle at loud base sounds so I tried cleaning it first (hairs stuck under the pad could cause resonances) But it did't help. I'd have to replace the drivers to fix it. They are still available, as are most of the parts like shells, the headband, cables etc. It'scalways a good sign when headphones have replacement parts available, though they're quite expensive. 2 drivers sets me back about 2/3 of the cost of new pair of headphones. Those velour pads last about 2 years until they are too soft and grime up. You'll feel the inner pads against your ears at that point which caused some irritation. You can't wash them, they loose their stiffness and fall apart. The sennheiser hd595 has fewer parts available, and the pads could only be found on Aliexpress and were pretty good. The head band padding fell apart on the 770 250 as well due to traveling with it in the first few years, got banged up pretty badly but still survived. I replaced all the padding and it was like new after 13 years! There are leather pads available as well, for better isolation. Straight and coiled cables are available, but takes some soldering to install. After I moved i prefer my diy speakers (visaton 3 way drivers, softdomes for high and mid, glassfiber for low). The sound is much better compared to these headphones. Due to covid I work from home and don't travel that much. I havea pair of etymotic hf5 in ear headphones as well. Base a bit weak but is otherwise excellent and even better noise cancellation. After listening to the 770 again recently I've found the highs slightly fatiging campared to my speaker set. I can't listen at higher volumes for longer than half an hour while I could listen for hours with the speakers. When new the highs are even stronger so breaking them in at high volume is a must.
Im on M50x just for piano playing and its ok but I tried to stay doing something in my DAW and after an hour and half I just couldn't take it. Very uncomfortable. But up to an hour or with significant break, great. Can't wait to try the 770. Cheers man. Great, right to the point stuff as always.
I have an M40x, very similar to the M50x, but has a flatter response. I love the sound. As you indicated in the video, the materials do not wear well, and the headphones are not comfortable. I pt a piece of foam over the headband, it was so bad. Another thing worth noting is that the removable cable has a non-standard plug so if the cable breaks, it's not a quick fix. TH-cam has some videos on how to get around this problem. For audio accuracy, I'd suggest the M40x, but definitely not for comfort.
I'm usual user, not professional, play video games, talk with teammates, listen to music. I have both headphones: ath-m50x, 990 pro 250 om (open back version of closed back 770 pro). Agree with all in video. M50x squeeze my ears and get them hurt soon, 990 lasts longer, but finally it hurts as well. Probably I have pretty big head and ears. But worst thing is boosted high frequencies on both headphones. They really hurt my brain when i listening loud music like nails putting in my ears. Beyerdynamics even worse with that than Audio-technica. Recently I bought Senheiser 58x jubelie and it is perfect for me. It is very comfortable, lightweight, I don't feel fatigue at all, and has smooth high frequencies. Ideal headphones for sensitive people.
Only problem with the DT770 is that two plastic pieces that hold the headphones with the headset (with "byerdynamic" written on it) crack. I have this problem and my friend has the same problem. Other than that they are great.
I've had the ATH-M50x for a couple years now and they started to hurt my head so baddddd + the velvet / velour cushions we had to buy separetly is unusable ... full of hairs and craps that won,t go away even after loads of cleaning... I'm getting the DT 770 Pro for my birthday and cannot wait to try them !
They get dirty more easily but you can actually wash the pads for the DT 770. By hand and with some soap, of course. Same with velour pads for HD 25. DT 770 have a weakspot where the cup arms enter the headband. Since the arms don't swivel freely, the plastic tab breaks in the middle. That said, these are my most beloved headphones and, if I were 20 (or 30?) years younger, I would wear them outside. In the winter.
4:34 about the M50x lack of earpad comfort that makes you switch to Beyer, yes agree. And that's the reason I change the earpad with a bigger "hole" on earpad like the Brainwavz, it can be paired with M50x, and my ears sits comfortably inside that earpad without any fatigue. It no longer be a on ear headphones but real over ear headphones.
I have the DT 770 250 Ohm. After many long hours over many years, they have begun to fall apart. Super glue and epoxy are my best friend. Time to order another set.
It's always so funny to me how subjective the perception of headphones is. I compared the two for my purposes (electric guitar recording) and I prefer the ATs for both sound and comfort. Plus, I ALWAYS wedge the flesh at the top of my fingers in the hinge mechanism of the BD DTs. It's as if they come cursed for me.
When I tested m40x (pretty same as m50x but flatter) and dt 770 the detail in 770 was far superior compared to m40x, but the dt were also more colored than m40x so I went with m40x. I already had couple hifi systems in home, so I didnt need another one
I have the DT770 250ohm. Comfortable, good quality build, good sound quality BUT they are anything but flat, as mentioned, That boost in the highs and some other quite non-flat frequencies means that you kind of need to compensate with some EQ for mixing.
Could not agree more with this reviewer. If you’re to be mixing for hours go with the DT770. But I couldn’t get a decent signal out of the 250k ohms versions with a Scarlet Solo sound card. I had to get the 32 ohm version. The AT sounds slightly more bass heavy than the BD. Also not only will the AT ear pads wear out after a few years but so will the material on the headband. But u can get a replacement cover for them.
@@fam.7971 The 80 ohm version may work depending on your musical tastes but IMHO you’re better off with the 32 ohm version on an iPad. The 32 ohm unit is the safest bet. It will work with most setups. Just remember to initially turn the volume down when plugging in if you’re using it with a high current amp so you don’t blast your eardrums. Also you may not get the curly cord with any version other than the 250 ohm. Am still searching for a 32 ohm with that feature.
Never used AT's.....previously bought Sennheiser HD 280 Pro's, and have had them for over 25 YRS! BUT last yr, I have TWO Pair of Beyerdynamic's, these 770's and also the 880's, the latter being Open Backed, and a much higher Ohm rate, so those take more power to run them. I also have an AKG HP4E headphone amp that has 4 inputs. I use the 770's for recording mostly, and the 880's for mixing and mastering......both are great, and you are correct. BOTH are very comfortable to wear. Just look at these two in your Video laying the table and you can guess which ones are more comfortable. Good video.....thanks.
Listening to this with DT-770 :) Never had any issues with 250 Ohm impedance. You can use them with a laptop or a smartphone at a comfortable listening level.
I got the M50xBT a while ago and couldn't wear them for more than an hour without my ears really hurting. I got new Wicked ear pads for them and that solved the problem! I'm not an audio expert and I don't have a good ear for it but I didn't hear any noticeable difference in the sound, however what I did find is that people claimed the Audio Technicas are base heavy and the thicker ear pads absorb some of that base. So in theory they should have a more flat curve. I wouldn't recommend them though. When doing my research I jumped the gun on buying them. If you have them, they are great headphones. Consistently in the top 10 but generally always around number 10, good enough to make the list or be mentioned which is an honor of it's self but not the best in the price bracket. Enjoy them if you have them, they are great, but if you don't, I'd look at another pair
I found the original earcups to fatigue my ears so I bought some much deeper memory foam ones and I no longer get that on-ear fatigue. The only downsides are less isolation and slightly higher chance of slipping off my head from the softer, less grippy earcups.
Great review! 👍🏻 Thanx a lot. Just a tiny little remark from a native German: "Beyer" in the brandname "Beyerdynamic" is pronounced like "fire", not like "layer". I hope it is clear what I mean 😊😇.
My m50x gave out after about 5 years because of the stupid swivel. Technically they’re perfectly fine but there is no way to repair the little plastic tab that keeps the swivelling ear pads straight on the ears. It chipped off randomly while wearing them and now the left ear pad presses into my ear and is unwearable. They’ve held up pretty long but it hurts to throw away headphones because an irreplaceable 2mm plastic tab broke off
Neither of those are for reference monitoring and critical listening, but both sound relatively good for tracking as they are closed back design. I find DT770 a bit lighter around 200hz where M50X has significant bump, but DT770 are more sibilant so all in all a very similar experience when it comes to neutrality. The biggest difference you did not mention for some reason is the soundstage, DT770 has a much wider soundstage while M50X has virtually no soundstage at all, which renders those two headphones totally opposite depending on what you need them for. While DT770 can sound more relaxed due to this psycho-acoustic effect they are not as near as good for singing and recording as M50X which brings the voice to the center of your head. DT770 feels detached and far away so you need to make them louder in order for the singer to get comfortable, but then they spill too much into the microphone. Both great, build quality is maybe better on the ATH as pads on the DT770 get destroyed relatively fast, but ATH does not allow for the headband to be replaced so they are even in this as well. For critical listening I would recommend the ATH R70X, incredible sound, almost dead flat while being relatively affordable. Another great option is AKG 620 Pro, they are literally dead flat and cost almost half the price of the R70X. Both open back design though.
I have used dt770 250ohm for 6 years. Yes it has a good clarity on highmids. But I don't trust it for bass frequencies. Whenever I mix a song with 770, I realise I turn bass freqs up more than it should be. dt770 250's response is so low, slow and loose on subbass and bass frequencies. It's hard to hear details about bass. Deceptive. But it's a fact it's so comfortable
I have em both straight from sweetwater...Thru the universal audio twin duo...the beyerdynamic is way more comfortable when keeping em on but dont pack the punch the mx 50 does..Both great but been using the audio technicas more
I agree, the comfort of the M50s is probably it's biggest setback. Thankfully that's an easy fix, I got soft, Velvet replacement cups which boosted the comfort and did not change the sound of the headphone
I have a fairly big head and the M50s are the most comfortable headphones I have ever used. They are also much more biased where the Beyerdynamics are a bit bright - might be good for trying to hear things, but I would never use them for a final mix. That said I was thinking of switching my casual listening set over to the DT 770 Pro but in this day in age if I am spending over $50 on headphones, they should have a detachable cable although my original M50s with the original cable did last me 14 years.
I think both of them are just fine. For mixing, I use the Beyerdynamics almost exclusively now and leave the M50's for the vocalist to use when recording.
I’d contemplated getting the 770s. I’ve owned a pair of M50s for several years that I bought for field recording. I’m glad they’re comparable, one less thing to buy whilst setting up my home studio.
DT770pro 250Ohm here: haven't had any issues with volume on any of my devices (phone, laptop, etc.). so if you think that's gonna be an issue for you, it's probably not. And especially for longer sessions, lower volume is BETTER! isolation is good, that may be why you get away with "lower" volume, but let me say that a phone can hurt your ears with one of them.
I have both... but recently I add to my "collection" the Sennheiser HD 560s which to me overcomes them both. Very neutral while musical and detailed, with a great soundstage and very comfortable as well. Just a bit more expensive, but definetely it's worth.
Aren't they open back? Do they leak a lot of sound? My setup is in the living room and I'm in a 1bedroom apartment. Will that disturb my roommate? Also because my conversations with my friends aren't always pg (and the games I play)
@@traderboi3954 they are open back, but the HD 569 version is closed-back. From what I can tell they seem the same in all other ways but I could be wrong.
Great video! I have one question: Do the new M50s sound different from the 8-year old ones? By the way, I've been using the DT-990 Pros 250 and the M50x. The 990s are my go-to, but the M50s are my sssssssiblance-detector.
I've had a pair of M50x since 2016 and they sound amazing, but as you said, they're not comfortable for longer periods of use. I bought a pair of DT770 Pro (80 Ohm, so 3m straight cable) earlier this year mostly because of my big ears, and I can wear them for hours without any fatigue.
Are your ears bigger than 6 cm which is the inner diameter of dt 770 pro pads. Bottom of my ears will sit on pad so I am wondering will it be uncomfortable?
Hi, I've had the M50s for about as long as you. I believe this is the version before yours because the "X" version came out slightly after I bought these. They are my go-to in the studio, primarily because of what you eluded to in that they are flat. When it's too late to use the reference monitors, I can actually mix with the M50s and amazingly, the next morning, the reference speakers sound precisely the same, with the exception of lower bass response. I have smaller ears so the cups are very comfortable. They show very little wear and as you mentioned, still sound like the first week after burn-in. The only difference I can see between these and the "X" model is the removable cord. If these ever broke, I'd get a new pair. Originally got them on sale for 99.00.
I've been using my 240DFs for 22 years and they still work perfectly and the surrounds haven't cracked or gotten sticky. They work for me but I wouldn't suggest others use them because, most likely, they wouldn't know how to use them for refining a mix. I switch in Tonebooster's Morphit now and then but, honestly, ''flat'' doesn't sound right in diffuse field phones, just bassier which does NOT help me to narrow in on 500hz-5.5khz or listen for cymbal/transient chirping or verb artifacts up beyond 8k. As for mixing 100% with headphones or expecting them to replace monitors, I don't see the point in not saving up a little more money and just getting a pair of Austrian Audio Hi-X50s or, preferably, X65s (I would go X65 due to their being DF). But, I get it, the DT 770 Pro is this decade's KRK (I'M YELLOW, LOOK AT ME, I'M YELLOW!) monitors, they should all come with a 1-way ticket to Jonestown, GY. I've never had such a need to feel accepted.
I am considering purchasing headphones specifically for music mixing. Despite watching this video and reading reviews comparing these two headphone options based on what's been stated about the sound quality, I am still unsure about which one to choose; however, I wonder if there are better headphones available that are even better suited for this purpose. While working on music mixing, I have utilized two different headphones in the past: the Sennheiser Professional HD 280 PRO and the OneOdio Pro-10. Both of these headphones are wired, as I prefer them that way. With the Sennheiser Professional HD 280 PRO, I noticed that the vocals sounded louder than the music, even though in reality, the music was much louder than the vocals. On the other hand, when using the OneOdio Pro-10 headphones, the music appeared louder than the vocals, when in fact, the vocals were actually louder than the music. This created the opposite issue. I am seeking headphones that can address this problem by providing a balanced mix where neither the music nor the vocals overpower each other, and where the individual musical instruments are also clearly audible after the music has been mixed.
I added a band cover and rolled up a car shami cloth for extra padding. This did two things....added padding and comfort at top, but also made me use more a larger band adjustment which made these pads more comfortable on my head. As far as the pads, I don't know.....my ears fit great into these pads and it sounds great to me. Seem pretty comfortable and I have large ears.
Deconi pads for the 770s...depending on version it even makes different soundprofiles just by the pads. Craziest transormation was my dt880. Want base, bigger stage and better pads in general. Take the suede pads. Way easier to install (originals are a pain) and great quality. Its crazy...I wanted to by a new headphone. I never thought that switching pads would make them pop again for me.
The first thing I do with these whenever I swap is buy new better thicker softer earpads. The DT Pro is slightly too small for my head and the weak spots are the plastic joints at the cups and the joints at the headband whereas the M50 CAN get loose and has a similar weak/wear spot, with the major difference that the DT can keep on going even though 1 joint crumbles or breaks.
I have the DT1770 Pros. They're not the most comfortable for long sessions, changing pads is a bit of a nightmare, but they sound incredible. Like a.. tank.
Best choice for sound designer / podcast editor? Work in an office for 2 days and the rest of the week from with noisy traffic driving past my window 😬
I went with the M50's and just brought a pair of WC(Wicked Cusions) replacement ear pads. They are way softer/thicker and I haven't noticed any audio difference. Because they are bigger they don't hurt my ears.
I’ve been using M50’s for almost 10 years for home studio audiobook recording. Been working exclusively from home for the past 4. Changed the ear pads. I like the sound. Louder than others I have. I’m listening for unwanted noises, so they are great for that. The shallow eat cup can start to hurt after a while. Feels like my ears are pressing on the speaker screen. But I wear them for 5-6 hour days.
I have used these headphones for ever as well. I changed the earcups to larger ones and now finally i can wear them all day without any pain
the connection on the left side becomes loose and the left speaker stops working after some time, then I must dismantle the cable from the headset and connect it. then it works. is this the case with all audio technica m50x headsets?
@Piltzintecuhtli-7yes but not the label (yet)
If you’re watching this channel I feel like you’re aware of this but for anyone just looking for a review of these DT 770 headphones - THESE ARE NOT FOR CASUAL LISTENING. They are BRUTALLY honest and unforgiving to any and every little mistake in your performance, your mix, etc. They are meant for “critical listening”, not “enjoyable listening”. If that’s what you’re looking for they are fantastic. Well produced music WILL sound good, but you would be surprised how much of the music you listen to was produced poorly lol.
thanks for this comment, just reinforced my decision to buy the mx50 because I want an enjoyable experience recording and tracking myself.
All headphones with high sensitivity can show the difference between poorly mixed tracks and well produced tracks. Just depends on your taste. Just like how they can show the difference between a good quality audio track and a bad quality track. Thank you
I had the M50's for several years and they were great. Had to bend the top headband out because it squeezed a bit too much and gave me a headache after a couple hours of use. The headband also just started breaking down, so I had to get a cover, which also wasn't the most comfortable, but beat having little black pieces in my hair. lol I also upgraded to thicker, softer ear pads, which felt great, but felt like I lost a little bit of volume. I bought an Audient EVO 4 last year and decided to get the 770s (80 Ohm) and have had zero issues with them. They're incredibly comfortable and sound phenomenal. Even though the M50s are fantastic, I'd definitely recommend the 770s over them, personally!
I own both the M50s and 770 80 ohms. The 770s needed amping for my setup, but they are far better than M50s. Also the velour pads on the 770s are heaven compared to the M50s pads
an lg v40 50 or 60 phone can power them no problem the quad dac is outstanding with them and lossless stream apps
same here, I sold the M50s
You can buy velours for the m50s?
I tried both( and also 30 something other headphones) m50s weren't even close to my consideration. As someone who works on a field ( film and tv recording), sennheiser hd25 and 26 are gold standard, but they are too uncomfortable for me ( I also have big head and big ears). Sound quality wise for my purposes next best thing was shure srh440( they don't have boosted low and high end, mids are reasonably precise, which is most important for recording dialogue) but they are of so bad build quality (mine broke after 10 days of use) that i had to find something else. at the end i have settled with the dt770s. build quality, reliability and comfort are top notch, but i had to accept some compromises in the sound department
How do you know if you need an amp or not?
I love my M50. Own mine for 9 years and they still sound as the day I bought them. I was sold by the flat response. Love your videos. I have learned a lot from them. Thank you.
they are far from flat, m40x is better and 770 way better
@@soulfulfool or heck the m20x is even the most flat closed back audio technica make
@@Omar_ZX I believe m20 is better m50 is just awful but anyway open back headphones are the best
I have an old pair of 770 Pro's, I've had them for about 16 years and they're still going strong. I've recently bought a pair of 1990 Pro's and these are wonderful for hearing fine detail in the mix and I've come to prefer them over the 770's but I use still use the older cans when I want to work for a long while as I find them less taxing on the ears.
As a M50X/M50XBT user (audio monitoring, general use) the stock pads I've never used for more than I think 2 days then I switched to flat leather/suade/hybrid pads (7USD each on aliexpress) are the reason I keep 3 pairs of these handy is each set of pads has a different alteration to the sound profile, now one thing I have to recommend is get hearing tests done properly before buying any headphones as knowing your physical data sheet allows you to be-able to judge equipment without having gaping blindspots.
In my 7 years of using them headbands get replaced every 1-1.5 years just a simple de-solder job, pads every year or xmas you can wash pads but the PU sheads too fast.
One thing I will note is 2.5mm locking was changed to 3.5mm non-locking and gen 1 BT is micro USB and gen 2 BT is type-c for power and these do hold charge for months and do last 2-3 days of use but BT is useless on windows directly so external transmitters are needed if you want to use it (I just have patch in points around the room for cables) though on macos and linux I've had pretty fluid experience with BT but its slightly lacking the depth of direct copper to a DAC.
I will note here these are really easy sets to modify for balanced input.
Now I will say the M50X are terrible for portability, personally I use a pair of pelter comtacts with geal pads and BT IEMs normally airpod pros when its just out and about this provides 100% sound isolation due to air gap, but full 360 position mapped amplified outside audio without taking the headphones off peltors are great for hearing protection with cut off ranges, I have wanted to make a pair with M50X drivers but its one of those long term some day projects.
I am using the M50XBT2. After replacing the upgraded headphone cable with an earphone amplifier, it not only listens to music at home, but also makes travel (Bluetooth) and entertainment more convenient.
Thanks for your review. I'm a big fan of BD headphones. I have the DT 331 and before that I had the DT 330 MK II. Amazing comfort. I have a big head and large ears and I can wear them for hours over my glasses and feel no pain or fatigue at all.
I've been very pleased with my DT 770 Pros 80 OHM version paired with a GOXLR Mini.
Mostly use for gaming and they work great for this purpose in large part due to how comfortable they are even for extended periods of time.
Thanks for doing the comparison. I totally agree with your findings. I have been using the DT 770 Pro for, like, 20 years now, and they have served me well. However, when the left channel went a couple of weeks ago I thought about repairing them, but the pair was so worn out and miserable that I decided to fork out the money for a replacement instead. Happily discovering that the DT 770 Pro was still in production, I went with those again without a second thought. I use the Sonarworks plugin for frequency correction, and it really makes a difference! Sonarworks has a generic correction curve readily available for a lot of headphones including the DT 770 Pro although you can get a pair of individually calibrated DT 770 Pro directly from Sonarworks with their own, unique calibration. Me being a happy amateur, and the calibrated DT 770 Pros being almost twice as expensive as a stock pair, I just decided to go with the 'standard' calibration - it works for me. Now I can get an unimaginable amount of sonic detail, even when mixing on headphones!
can I use HD770 80 ohm with Presonus Studio 24C audio interface in your opinion ?? And on IPAD-PRO 2020 ??
I have the 80-ohm DT 770 Pro and they sound great, comfy, and I really liked that spaced-out sound. Just makes sitting back in the chair and listening to a well-mastered track that much more enjoyable imo
Hi! Which in you opinion has a better sound because I am thinking to buy and cant decide between these two. Sooo are 770 better than m50x or not?
@@Markisbeatz355 i had both and they both sound great and obviously it depends on you , but honestly for music production i had few big problems with dt770 250ohm that m50x solved them all
I love both for tracking, no problems either way. I have had reliability issues with the 770s especially at the cable. DT 1990 for mixing and mastering are stellar.
what was your issue with the cable. they are great headphones and that bothers me. i wont have studio monitors soon so i really need dt770 soundstage as well.
@@supernotnatural i had an issue with the cable, it was very long, and not detachable but i spent about $80 plus shipping to get someone to mod a detachable 3.5mm jack
They make larger pads for the M50s for less than $20 that are much bigger than the originals and it actually improved the sound isolation and also the bass response. Much much better seal after I upgraded those pads.
Yeah I've gotten my ear pads from Wicked Cushions purely for comfort reasons. They also sell some covers for the headbands which stops them from becoming all flakey over time.
Hi Scott, do you have a link where i can buy those Pads ?
Can you post a link to exactly those pads? Thanks
Ditto, link to those pads? Thanks!
Bro you cant post shit like this and not provide link
I have had the DT 770's for 12 years. I have the smooth long cord (non-coil). I love them for everything in the studio and tracking. HD 280 Pro's are fabulous as well, I use those for my main headphones while browsing the internet on the laptop. They can double as great studio head phones if I have an artist tracking with the long corded DT 770's
280 pros sound good but man, they are uncomfortable to me. They are like putting my head in a vice! I've tried everything to loosen them up with no success. I use a pair of Steele Series for gaming and they are so comfortable. If you know of way to make the hd280's more comfortable, let me know.
@@tommaxwell429same dude, the clamping just doesn't go away!
After comparing both headphones and thinking for month which one to buy I'm happy to say that I bought them both 😁
Si solo los quiero para disfrutar la música en mi celular cual de esos es mejor? Se que no están hechos para eso, pero quiero saber cual de esos dos seria mejor para escuchar musica
Currently using the M30x. You sold the DT 770s to me on the comfort sections. Insta buy, cause you know the same pain I've been living with while using the Audio Technicas. YES, them ears do hurt after a while. Thank you.
I own 990s and m50xs. I use them in parallel, but the m50x is way more fun to write on while the 990 pros are better for mixing. I use HS8s, 990 pros and m50xs
I have the ATH-M50x and recently bought the DT 990 Pro (Open Back) because I like hearing the natural drums along with the headphone mix when performing or practicing, plus I can hear my boys playing while listening to content like this video.
the production quality on this is insane thumbs up
Thanks for watching!
I have both! Like you said, I think that it's easier to listen different elements in the track with DT's and the ear cups are superior. I just happen to have problems with referencing while using DT's because they sound so spacious. I absolutely love the spacious sound, but I have to check my mix with monitors and also in-ear plugs to get the right stereo image balance. Still loving them after six years and yea the ear fabric looks cursed after that time :D
I use M50's only for DJ:ing. Cups have perfect rotation and the sound is so nice that I usually just love to jam with the headphones on when performing.
Who is better for house music ? Thanks !
its the most ambitious cans ive heard, kind of ie900 in highend area
AKG K371 are a steal when it comes to quality Vs price and they are super comfy. I spend most of my day wearing them.
these are what I have after getting rid of my 770 Pro 80 ohms after being severely disappointed with them
My friend, I am eternally grateful for your helpful review. I'm new to your channel and glad to have found you. Keep up the good work. Good luck and all the best!
I got myself the m50x and compliment them with the open back dt990 pro. perfect combo imo for production and the m50x are my go to DJing phones.
I have the same 2 also! Love them both, with a pad swap for the 50x. Stock are trash.
@@erichieger7386 which pads do u use now? I too don't like the stock pads on my m50x
@@akshayjuneja1987 also, there are more expensive high quality ones made specifically for AT-M50x, from Dekoni and Wicked Cushions, Brainwavz. Can't go wrong with any of them!
I forgot to mention that one of the reasons they are so great is the thickness and density of the padding, plus the size of the opening - it keep your ears farther from the drivers and creates a lot more space.
@@erichieger7386 thanks man...
I wish the Beyerdynamic would have detachable cables. That's the thing I really dislike about them. These would be my first "expensive" (for me) headphones, therefore I would like to use them for years to come. I'm aware that the cable is pretty well made, but I still feel safer with a detachable cable.
same thing for me, we need dt 770 alternative that is better than m50x with detachable cable
@@supernotnatural A DT770 would be my literal dream. German made, superior quality. But the cable thing is so infuriating. It would be so cheap and easy to do but they refuse to do it.
@@匿名的-1 I found Sennheiser HD560S, amazing reviews everywhere, detachable cable too. I found cheap like around 150$ so went for it.
@@supernotnatural Nice, I'll check it out. Thanks, have a great day!
700 is with detachable!
I've been using the DT 770 250ohm as my only studio headphones for about a year now.
I just bought the ATH-M50x intending them to just be my listening headphones while I travel. But now I use the 770s for writing, and both for mixing. I find the ATH give me a better grasp of the bass on most systems. While the 770 is great for when you need to reign in the highs
Which amplifier do you use for DT 770 250ohm if I may ask?
DT770s are by far the better headphones in my opinion. I've been mixing with them (80 ohms), and (obviously depending on the mixer) the midrange translates accurately and gives you a better soundstage than the M50s. That said, this is easily one of the best comparison videos between the two. I would highly recommend the M50s in situations such as live sound or on-set recording since the swivel cups and comfort around your neck cannot compete with the 770s.
Another point to also note is purpose. DT770s are definitely better for mixing, recording and mastering due to the frequency response. The M50s less so. The M40s are much more reliable for accurate mixes, but that being said... Using either headphones for longer periods of time will get you accustomed to the sonic signature, and if you use reference tracks, this shouldn't be an issue at all.
Great video!!
Great points, Jason! Thank you!
I agree the M40x are more balanced and even compared with the DT770 I prefer the AT40x
i only mix with studio monitors
@@MegaJojje123 DT 770 work good with EDM?
@@mrbartek3122 i should specify more clearly i mean studio speakers aka studio monitors heh, dt770s are good but it's always better mixing with speakers, the headphones themselfs are damn good i have them myself
Damn I love the clarity of your videos. This helped me make my decision. Going with the M50s for live mixing.
I had used m50 for 3 years and then 770 for 8 years and now thinking to return back to audio-technica
I've used the DT770 250 ohm for years. Awesome headphones that I can wear for days. Seriously, the number of times that I've forgotten they're even on my head till I get up and yank them. 1000% on the extension cable. An absolute must.
Do you a recommendation for an headphone amp ? I bought one at 50 ? Im not sure if it s good enough,, tx
Yo did the fixed cable bother you
I have the DT-770's in the 250-ohm version. I generally hate headphones because they always cause significant pain in the ear cartilage after resting there for an extended period. I was drawn to the idea that the DT-770's went *around* the ear and, sure enough, it makes a big difference.
Same here. I got a 770 pro and finally I can listen to/produce music for hours.
Which amplifier do you use for DT 770 250ohm if I may ask?
@@valarmorghulis322 Straight into the MOTU 828 mk2. The headphone jack has its own amp and gain knob.
@@mishterpreshident Thank you.
I own both of these, I wear glasses, and I live in a significantly tropical climate where heat and humidity is high over a third of the year. The ear pads of the 'pleather' are inferior to the plush, however you can easily halve or quarter the timeframes for longevity mentioned on both of these in this environment. One other thing I should mention is that the rubber/plastic sheaths on the thin wiring of the DT770 80hms quickly deteriorates after a certain point in this climatic setting. That said, electrical tape and silicon wrap has temporarily fixed this in an inelegant, but effective, manner on my DT770s. I'm really pleased with the sound quality of both of these, however neither are really built to last in a tropical clime. Thankfully, both companies provide spare parts. Overall, I still tend towards the DT770 80Ohms as my preferred option if wired, but the bluetooth version of the MX50x definitely has advantages in non-critical listening environments. I should point out that I use Sonarworks Reference software (non-sponsored) for each of these to balance out any ingrained idiosyncrasies that come with each headphone when mixing/mastering.
Thanks for sharing your perspective on this! Very helpful!
Thank you for your channel!
As of these headphones - definitely the 770s, the bass is just incredible, and they are far more comfortable for long use.
Thanks, @na4ito!
Ath m50x has better bass, okey DT has A BIT cleaner sound but for electronic music ath is much better, DT are good for classic music🤮🤮. Only EDM
Buuut both of them are really great
I've been using my M50X for voiceover recording and mixing for the past 8 years and really enjoy them. However, I've always wanted to try Beyer Dynamic headphones but didn't like the attached cable. Now that they make the DT-700 Pro X with a detachable cable, I'm seriously considering getting a pair! Thank you for a comprehensive review!
how do you like them, do you think they're good for producing and mixing
@@jorden6153 Yes I do even though they emphasize bass frequencies. I tried the DT-700 Pro X headphones and really liked how they sound. However, the clamping force was too much and I couldn't wear them for very long and returned them. Very disappointing!
@@Bassic778 hmmm alright, well thanks for letting me know! I’m trying to get in producing and mixing so I can make a song, but don’t know which pair of headphones is a good investment. I keep seeing that the ATHM50X is only good for monitoring and not producing and mixing
@@jorden6153 The best thing to do is find a store that will allow you to return headphones if they don't work out. That way, you can try out different headphones until you find the ones that you like.
Hey out of these 2 which would be better suited for someone that just wants to plug the headset in directly to my macbook and produce phonk and trap beats?
Thanks for the video! I had my m50s for about 5 years and 3 of them I used to hate them because of the comfort issues like what you've mentioned. Then, I got myself two sets of alternative earpads - one like those on 770s and another that is more like a foamy thick pillow - and I never noticed much fatigue ever since. 99% of time I use those 770s-style pads and they enhance both comfort and, to my liking, sound. Great stuff and a rather cheap upgrade.
Please post a link for the culture
@@user-mb8rf7qk5qUnfortunately, TH-cam deletes links so he wouldn't be able to.
Specific website or company you ordered them from?
@@user-mb8rf7qk5q Some really nice ones are Brainwavvz Prostock ear pads but they’re really pricey (for me at least). A great cheaper alternative would be ZMF cowhide pads. Otherwise, you could literally just stretch out the stock ear pads overnight.
@@user-mb8rf7qk5q not really, i've basically searched for m50 earpads on aliexpress and picked ones that seemed best in terms of looks, expected feel and effect, seller reliability and reviews
im listening to this on my DT 770 Pro , I Also have the ATH-M50x both are great. DT770 are comfortable , thats why i use them also
I didn't get the 770s because of many reports a read of the left channel going out. I ramped up a bit, and got the DT 880 Pros, and they sound good and are very comfortable,
Amazing video, helpful, straight to point, commenting for algorithm, thank you.
I am a dialogue editor and using the AT and even though I like their response very much, it hurts my head when I have my glasses on :) so gotta agree with the comfort issue. Thanks for the video as always!
Thanks, Ozgen!
Agree with the “on ear” comment for the ATs. My pads were dying so I just replaced them with a thicker pad which pulled them off of my ears. It made them WAAAAY more comfortable. As I am primarily a live guy these fit my bill more than the 770s. Really though? Can’t go wrong with either.
can I use HD770 80 ohm with Presonus Studio 24C audio interface in your opinion ?? And on IPAD-PRO 2020 ??
I can't imagine how you've found 770's more detailed. I've tried them after my M40x's and… they are just dull in every possible way. If you prefer comfort all you need is just to change the pads on M40/M50. I chose ZMF cowhide pads and they are phenomenon, I can wear them for days. Plus they add a lot of stage which M40's and M50's lack of. Well, I guess everyone's ears and audio perceptions are really that different.
U might be interested to know:
M40 review (vs Sont 7506, but really it is against itself since both are compared directly to a source material)
th-cam.com/video/udLoAV7YmjA/w-d-xo.html
Sonic Sense is no more, but they did the best and most accurate reviews, IMHO, because they didn't use "golden eared" opinion to say what sounds accurate, they actually compare out vs the music source so u can hear how different the headphones or speakers sound vs the original music. Literally no reviewer does this.
@@wwlittlejOfficial thanks, I should check it out!
@@wwlittlejOfficial yeah, that was a fair comparison. M40x are incredibly accurate.
@@moskva-kassiopeya that they are, it's really sad because after Sonic Sense channel ended, NOBODY reviews speakers like this. They still go with the words of a golden eared reviewer who might have 30 years in the review game, but has been doing it wrong the whole time. Anytime someone tells me, at least in a pro capacity they like 'x' headphones or iem's or speakers, and says yes they are very accurate and detailed, and they don't evaluate like this, they are full of shit. They are evaluating from memory, which is pretty much impossible.
Now that only applies to pro level stuff , for producers and such, where accuracy is utmost. We have to know what we do to our mixes is exactly what we do to our mixes.
Edit: sorry for the typos, lol
I have both (80 ohm DT770) and severely disagree. To me, the DT770 is slightly more detailed to the M40x. With the better imaging and the much better soundstage, the DT770 has a far greater instrument separation. And sound to me far from boring, they have a very present bass and highs. Bass is also much better than m40x's, much more texturized.
I'd have a dilemma between having the detachable cord and the overall better comfort of the DT 770s
I have tried the DT 770 Pro in both 80 and 250 Ohm. Recommended them a few times to happy recipients who prefer listening to music like Jazz or Classical Music.
Also tried a few Sennheisers, Sonys, Koss, Bose and Bower Wilkins Headphones just to mention a few that are either a popular choice or really good on their own.
Notable mention... the Koss Porta Pros always amaze me as a compact on Ear Headphone.
But back to those two legendary Headphones ... i just bought my third pair of M50s ... my second one beeing the BT2 Variant ...which truly sounds like it is indeed wired... if you use LDAC 960kbps.
My original pair of M50s was now 14 years old and i have used it at least a few hours every day... at home, on the go ... just always.
Why did i replace them for a new pair of M50 (in the M50x Gunmetal variant :))? Because they sound so much more fun... they work for films, also Jazz and Classical Music ... although the sound stage is not nearly as wide as on the DT 770 Pros or the DT990 for that matter and the clarity is also not as defined.
But exactly this clarity is for my preferred types of music too much, too airy,... i love that DnB, Techno, Rap and Trap or any type of EDM sounds like you are in the club.
Huge Speaker style bass, nothing distorted, nice but tight soundstage that can become quite a bit wider with the proper recording.
This btw. also makes them quite useable for fast FPS Shooter Games... positional audio is still decent while explosions sound like real explosions.
Airier Headphones or the good sounding but very fragile Steelseries Headsets do not reproduce mids and especially low frequencies quite punchy but still not overexposed like the M50 do.
Back to my final Audio verdict as i drifted over to why i also like to use them for really everything else.
I like my audio clean, neutral and undistorted but still dirty, so when the fat baseline hits, it really hits you.
So i have the peace in mind that i do not care if i listen to Simon & Garfunkel, Lil John, A$AP Rocky, The Prodigy, John Spencer Blues Explosion, ELO, Justice, Die Antwoord, Dj Shadow, Slipknot, Trampsta, Massive Attack, Dj Fresh, Autechre, Chicago, Schoolboy Q and whatnot... it all just sounds so right. Not only clean but also fun.
Mind you the DT 770s will manage to play quite a few of these Artists just fine too,... but take the song Bassline Junkie from Dizzee Rascal ... the bass will not "be buzzin" on the DT 770 Pros ...
so that is definately a song that sounds just weird on the DT-770 Pro.
John Spencer also sounds in general nicer on the M50s although the DT770 also do a good job but they do create a different experience for the listener.
So if you want a "always on" wide soundstage with pristine separation (perfect to dissect every single instrument track) and brilliant treble ... go get the DT 770 Pro´s ... they do feel more comfortable and a bit more premium.
But i just cannot quit the M50s ... they sound so much more fun to me and when i need some bangers instead of the 4th coffee... the DT 770 just do not cut it.
Comfort was a problem in the end with my 14 year old ones ... but both new ones feel really nice.
At the very first day i should have given the Headband a little strech as the fit will hurt after a few hours if you have a rather big head like me.
Now a few days in this does not bother me.
Quite curious ... the Earpads from the BT2DS Variant are quite noticeable softer and feel really nice throughout a 10 hours office day (Mic is really really good for Teams and i can dual pair my phone and notebook).
Still the M50 Earpads will be comfortable enough, even for longer sessions as long as they are fresh, be sure to replace them as soon as you feel the inner cup putting pressure on your ears.
There are also quite a few high quality after market earcups available for the M50s ... but that sounds like a research of its own which i have been too lazy to do yet.
I recently bought the 32ohm 770's and they are pretty good. I can see how recording studios love these because they are very revealing. A bad recording will stand out like a sore thumb on these which is good if you work in a studio but maybe less desirable if you just want to casually listen to music.
Also if you are not planning on using them on a mixing desk or headphone amplifier you should not buy the 80 or 250 ohm version of these. There is a lot of misinformation out there and I can see how people would be led to believe that more ohms=better quality.
I just ordered the 80 ohm version just because I wasn't ready to invest in a higher quality DAC and amp to hand the 250 version so I got a more average DAC/amp combo. I wanted the 880s for the semi open configuration, but those only came in 32, 250, and 600 ohm options. Really funny because I was researching about ohms in regards to headphones and what they were earlier in the week. A few days later my engineering class went over Ohm's Law with the science and mathematics behind them.
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Yep these really reveal the "warts" in a recording and very unforgiving compressed music.
@@scottstrang1583 is that why I find the bass in some songs wonky. Like there is almost a rumble in the song
I've used the dt770 pro (250ohm) for about 13 years until I moved to a free standing house where I could use speakers without bothering my neighbours 3 years ago. During the 13 years I've also bought the sennheuser hd595 that's a little lighter and airy, due the the open backed design vs closed design of the 770. The 595 is so light you often forget it's there. I used it on a diy headphone amp that could drive 600 ohm loads. The 770 could play so loud without distortion that you'd blow your ears off without noticing it, truly an on stage headphones.
The 770 base is detailed and well defined, on the hd595 too but it's slightly thinner but very close.
Later I bought the dt770 80 ohms as I used one pair in the living room and one on the go with my smartphone, at work and upstairs. It's hard to distinguish between the 250 and 80 ohms, pretty much equal to me on a headphone amp. But on 32 ohm devices the 80 ohms has stronger base and plays higher volumes.
The 770 250 developed a crackle at loud base sounds so I tried cleaning it first (hairs stuck under the pad could cause resonances) But it did't help. I'd have to replace the drivers to fix it. They are still available, as are most of the parts like shells, the headband, cables etc. It'scalways a good sign when headphones have replacement parts available, though they're quite expensive. 2 drivers sets me back about 2/3 of the cost of new pair of headphones.
Those velour pads last about 2 years until they are too soft and grime up. You'll feel the inner pads against your ears at that point which caused some irritation. You can't wash them, they loose their stiffness and fall apart. The sennheiser hd595 has fewer parts available, and the pads could only be found on Aliexpress and were pretty good.
The head band padding fell apart on the 770 250 as well due to traveling with it in the first few years, got banged up pretty badly but still survived. I replaced all the padding and it was like new after 13 years!
There are leather pads available as well, for better isolation. Straight and coiled cables are available, but takes some soldering to install.
After I moved i prefer my diy speakers (visaton 3 way drivers, softdomes for high and mid, glassfiber for low). The sound is much better compared to these headphones. Due to covid I work from home and don't travel that much. I havea pair of etymotic hf5 in ear headphones as well. Base a bit weak but is otherwise excellent and even better noise cancellation.
After listening to the 770 again recently I've found the highs slightly fatiging campared to my speaker set. I can't listen at higher volumes for longer than half an hour while I could listen for hours with the speakers.
When new the highs are even stronger so breaking them in at high volume is a must.
love your tutorials Sir, got both , and having both is extremely useful for the reasons you've pointed out precisely 👍
Im on M50x just for piano playing and its ok but I tried to stay doing something in my DAW and after an hour and half I just couldn't take it. Very uncomfortable. But up to an hour or with significant break, great.
Can't wait to try the 770.
Cheers man. Great, right to the point stuff as always.
I have an M40x, very similar to the M50x, but has a flatter response. I love the sound. As you indicated in the video, the materials do not wear well, and the headphones are not comfortable. I pt a piece of foam over the headband, it was so bad. Another thing worth noting is that the removable cable has a non-standard plug so if the cable breaks, it's not a quick fix. TH-cam has some videos on how to get around this problem. For audio accuracy, I'd suggest the M40x, but definitely not for comfort.
I'm usual user, not professional, play video games, talk with teammates, listen to music. I have both headphones: ath-m50x, 990 pro 250 om (open back version of closed back 770 pro). Agree with all in video. M50x squeeze my ears and get them hurt soon, 990 lasts longer, but finally it hurts as well. Probably I have pretty big head and ears. But worst thing is boosted high frequencies on both headphones. They really hurt my brain when i listening loud music like nails putting in my ears. Beyerdynamics even worse with that than Audio-technica. Recently I bought Senheiser 58x jubelie and it is perfect for me. It is very comfortable, lightweight, I don't feel fatigue at all, and has smooth high frequencies. Ideal headphones for sensitive people.
I have been using the beyerdynamic dt770 pro 32 ohms version with my computer and they sound amazing
Thanks mate. I trust your opinion, you put me on the sm58 and the 2i2. Can't say I'm dissapointed!
Only problem with the DT770 is that two plastic pieces that hold the headphones with the headset (with "byerdynamic" written on it) crack. I have this problem and my friend has the same problem. Other than that they are great.
I've had the ATH-M50x for a couple years now and they started to hurt my head so baddddd + the velvet / velour cushions we had to buy separetly is unusable ... full of hairs and craps that won,t go away even after loads of cleaning... I'm getting the DT 770 Pro for my birthday and cannot wait to try them !
They get dirty more easily but you can actually wash the pads for the DT 770. By hand and with some soap, of course. Same with velour pads for HD 25.
DT 770 have a weakspot where the cup arms enter the headband. Since the arms don't swivel freely, the plastic tab breaks in the middle. That said, these are my most beloved headphones and, if I were 20 (or 30?) years younger, I would wear them outside. In the winter.
can I use HD770 80 ohm with Presonus Studio 24C audio interface in your opinion ?? And on IPAD-PRO 2020 ??
curious to hear a comparison between Audio Technica's ATH M70x vs Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro! Great video in any case :)
4:34 about the M50x lack of earpad comfort that makes you switch to Beyer, yes agree. And that's the reason I change the earpad with a bigger "hole" on earpad like the Brainwavz, it can be paired with M50x, and my ears sits comfortably inside that earpad without any fatigue. It no longer be a on ear headphones but real over ear headphones.
I have the DT 770 250 Ohm. After many long hours over many years, they have begun to fall apart. Super glue and epoxy are my best friend. Time to order another set.
It's always so funny to me how subjective the perception of headphones is. I compared the two for my purposes (electric guitar recording) and I prefer the ATs for both sound and comfort. Plus, I ALWAYS wedge the flesh at the top of my fingers in the hinge mechanism of the BD DTs. It's as if they come cursed for me.
When I tested m40x (pretty same as m50x but flatter) and dt 770 the detail in 770 was far superior compared to m40x, but the dt were also more colored than m40x so I went with m40x. I already had couple hifi systems in home, so I didnt need another one
I have the DT770 250ohm. Comfortable, good quality build, good sound quality BUT they are anything but flat, as mentioned, That boost in the highs and some other quite non-flat frequencies means that you kind of need to compensate with some EQ for mixing.
Very good voice and clear speech ....good job bro 💯
Could not agree more with this reviewer. If you’re to be mixing for hours go with the DT770. But I couldn’t get a decent signal out of the 250k ohms versions with a Scarlet Solo sound card. I had to get the 32 ohm version.
The AT sounds slightly more bass heavy than the BD.
Also not only will the AT ear pads wear out after a few years but so will the material on the headband. But u can get a replacement cover for them.
can I use HD770 80 ohm with Presonus Studio 24C audio interface in your opinion ?? And on IPAD-PRO 2020 ??
@@fam.7971 The 80 ohm version may work depending on your musical tastes but IMHO you’re better off with the 32 ohm version on an iPad. The 32 ohm unit is the safest bet. It will work with most setups. Just remember to initially turn the volume down when plugging in if you’re using it with a high current amp so you don’t blast your eardrums. Also you may not get the curly cord with any version other than the 250 ohm. Am still searching for a 32 ohm with that feature.
@@mantrinbago thanks for the answer, I agree with the iPad, but the Presonus Studio 24C audio interface should work though, am I right ?
You can buy replacements for everything for both. Even cloth pads for the ATX. I have both and you can wash the cloth pads.
You made my day, thank you for sharing!
Never used AT's.....previously bought Sennheiser HD 280 Pro's, and have had them for over 25 YRS! BUT last yr, I have TWO Pair of Beyerdynamic's, these 770's and also the 880's, the latter being Open Backed, and a much higher Ohm rate, so those take more power to run them. I also have an AKG HP4E headphone amp that has 4 inputs. I use the 770's for recording mostly, and the 880's for mixing and mastering......both are great, and you are correct. BOTH are very comfortable to wear. Just look at these two in your Video laying the table and you can guess which ones are more comfortable. Good video.....thanks.
Listening to this with DT-770 :)
Never had any issues with 250 Ohm impedance. You can use them with a laptop or a smartphone at a comfortable listening level.
Same
+1
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I got the M50xBT a while ago and couldn't wear them for more than an hour without my ears really hurting. I got new Wicked ear pads for them and that solved the problem! I'm not an audio expert and I don't have a good ear for it but I didn't hear any noticeable difference in the sound, however what I did find is that people claimed the Audio Technicas are base heavy and the thicker ear pads absorb some of that base. So in theory they should have a more flat curve. I wouldn't recommend them though. When doing my research I jumped the gun on buying them. If you have them, they are great headphones. Consistently in the top 10 but generally always around number 10, good enough to make the list or be mentioned which is an honor of it's self but not the best in the price bracket. Enjoy them if you have them, they are great, but if you don't, I'd look at another pair
I found the original earcups to fatigue my ears so I bought some much deeper memory foam ones and I no longer get that on-ear fatigue. The only downsides are less isolation and slightly higher chance of slipping off my head from the softer, less grippy earcups.
Great review! 👍🏻 Thanx a lot. Just a tiny little remark from a native German: "Beyer" in the brandname "Beyerdynamic" is pronounced like "fire", not like "layer". I hope it is clear what I mean 😊😇.
Wish you did something on open backs... Great video regardless.
Thanks, Albert! That’s a good idea for a future video.
I'm surprised it took you so long to switch, given your knowledge. Here I am with little knowledge and it was no contest for me when buying my dt770s
My m50x gave out after about 5 years because of the stupid swivel. Technically they’re perfectly fine but there is no way to repair the little plastic tab that keeps the swivelling ear pads straight on the ears. It chipped off randomly while wearing them and now the left ear pad presses into my ear and is unwearable. They’ve held up pretty long but it hurts to throw away headphones because an irreplaceable 2mm plastic tab broke off
Neither of those are for reference monitoring and critical listening, but both sound relatively good for tracking as they are closed back design. I find DT770 a bit lighter around 200hz where M50X has significant bump, but DT770 are more sibilant so all in all a very similar experience when it comes to neutrality.
The biggest difference you did not mention for some reason is the soundstage, DT770 has a much wider soundstage while M50X has virtually no soundstage at all, which renders those two headphones totally opposite depending on what you need them for.
While DT770 can sound more relaxed due to this psycho-acoustic effect they are not as near as good for singing and recording as M50X which brings the voice to the center of your head. DT770 feels detached and far away so you need to make them louder in order for the singer to get comfortable, but then they spill too much into the microphone.
Both great, build quality is maybe better on the ATH as pads on the DT770 get destroyed relatively fast, but ATH does not allow for the headband to be replaced so they are even in this as well.
For critical listening I would recommend the ATH R70X, incredible sound, almost dead flat while being relatively affordable. Another great option is AKG 620 Pro, they are literally dead flat and cost almost half the price of the R70X. Both open back design though.
Thanks buddy!
I have used dt770 250ohm for 6 years. Yes it has a good clarity on highmids. But I don't trust it for bass frequencies. Whenever I mix a song with 770, I realise I turn bass freqs up more than it should be. dt770 250's response is so low, slow and loose on subbass and bass frequencies. It's hard to hear details about bass. Deceptive.
But it's a fact it's so comfortable
I have em both straight from sweetwater...Thru the universal audio twin duo...the beyerdynamic is way more comfortable when keeping em on but dont pack the punch the mx 50 does..Both great but been using the audio technicas more
very clear and well made video, thank you my friend!
I agree, the comfort of the M50s is probably it's biggest setback. Thankfully that's an easy fix, I got soft, Velvet replacement cups which boosted the comfort and did not change the sound of the headphone
I have a fairly big head and the M50s are the most comfortable headphones I have ever used. They are also much more biased where the Beyerdynamics are a bit bright - might be good for trying to hear things, but I would never use them for a final mix. That said I was thinking of switching my casual listening set over to the DT 770 Pro but in this day in age if I am spending over $50 on headphones, they should have a detachable cable although my original M50s with the original cable did last me 14 years.
I think both of them are just fine. For mixing, I use the Beyerdynamics almost exclusively now and leave the M50's for the vocalist to use when recording.
I’d contemplated getting the 770s. I’ve owned a pair of M50s for several years that I bought for field recording. I’m glad they’re comparable, one less thing to buy whilst setting up my home studio.
I can't explain it. The m50x's sound better but I always find myself going back to the 770s for some reason.
DT770pro 250Ohm here: haven't had any issues with volume on any of my devices (phone, laptop, etc.). so if you think that's gonna be an issue for you, it's probably not.
And especially for longer sessions, lower volume is BETTER! isolation is good, that may be why you get away with "lower" volume, but let me say that a phone can hurt your ears with one of them.
I have both... but recently I add to my "collection" the Sennheiser HD 560s which to me overcomes them both. Very neutral while musical and detailed, with a great soundstage and very comfortable as well. Just a bit more expensive, but definetely it's worth.
Aren't they open back? Do they leak a lot of sound? My setup is in the living room and I'm in a 1bedroom apartment. Will that disturb my roommate? Also because my conversations with my friends aren't always pg (and the games I play)
@@traderboi3954 they are open back, but the HD 569 version is closed-back. From what I can tell they seem the same in all other ways but I could be wrong.
Sadly they are not very good if you like metal genre music
Great video! I have one question: Do the new M50s sound different from the 8-year old ones? By the way, I've been using the DT-990 Pros 250 and the M50x. The 990s are my go-to, but the M50s are my sssssssiblance-detector.
I've had a pair of M50x since 2016 and they sound amazing, but as you said, they're not comfortable for longer periods of use. I bought a pair of DT770 Pro (80 Ohm, so 3m straight cable) earlier this year mostly because of my big ears, and I can wear them for hours without any fatigue.
Can the 80ohms work
with phones and laptops and give an acceptable sound?
@@daynight6021 on my Xperia 5 ii I have to nearly max out the volume to get a good listening level, but my MacBook Air has no problem.
@@nevian thanks, i searched quite a lot about it and found no answer untill now
can I use HD770 80 ohm with Presonus Studio 24C audio interface in your opinion ?? And on IPAD-PRO 2020 ??
Are your ears bigger than 6 cm which is the inner diameter of dt 770 pro pads. Bottom of my ears will sit on pad so I am wondering will it be uncomfortable?
So helpful, thank you
The 770s are my favorite. Comfy cozy and sturdy. The sound quality is top tier.
Hi,
I've had the M50s for about as long as you. I believe this is the version before yours because the "X" version came out slightly after I bought these. They are my go-to in the studio, primarily because of what you eluded to in that they are flat. When it's too late to use the reference monitors, I can actually mix with the M50s and amazingly, the next morning, the reference speakers sound precisely the same, with the exception of lower bass response. I have smaller ears so the cups are very comfortable. They show very little wear and as you mentioned, still sound like the first week after burn-in.
The only difference I can see between these and the "X" model is the removable cord.
If these ever broke, I'd get a new pair. Originally got them on sale for 99.00.
I've been using my 240DFs for 22 years and they still work perfectly and the surrounds haven't cracked or gotten sticky. They work for me but I wouldn't suggest others use them because, most likely, they wouldn't know how to use them for refining a mix. I switch in Tonebooster's Morphit now and then but, honestly, ''flat'' doesn't sound right in diffuse field phones, just bassier which does NOT help me to narrow in on 500hz-5.5khz or listen for cymbal/transient chirping or verb artifacts up beyond 8k. As for mixing 100% with headphones or expecting them to replace monitors, I don't see the point in not saving up a little more money and just getting a pair of Austrian Audio Hi-X50s or, preferably, X65s (I would go X65 due to their being DF). But, I get it, the DT 770 Pro is this decade's KRK (I'M YELLOW, LOOK AT ME, I'M YELLOW!) monitors, they should all come with a 1-way ticket to Jonestown, GY. I've never had such a need to feel accepted.
I feel like 770 are more of a studio environment headphones while M50x are more like a live sound headphones. Am I right?
I am considering purchasing headphones specifically for music mixing. Despite watching this video and reading reviews comparing these two headphone options based on what's been stated about the sound quality, I am still unsure about which one to choose; however, I wonder if there are better headphones available that are even better suited for this purpose. While working on music mixing, I have utilized two different headphones in the past: the Sennheiser Professional HD 280 PRO and the OneOdio Pro-10. Both of these headphones are wired, as I prefer them that way. With the Sennheiser Professional HD 280 PRO, I noticed that the vocals sounded louder than the music, even though in reality, the music was much louder than the vocals. On the other hand, when using the OneOdio Pro-10 headphones, the music appeared louder than the vocals, when in fact, the vocals were actually louder than the music. This created the opposite issue. I am seeking headphones that can address this problem by providing a balanced mix where neither the music nor the vocals overpower each other, and where the individual musical instruments are also clearly audible after the music has been mixed.
I have both DT 770 Pro 80 Ohm and M50X. I use DT 770 Pro for audio editing. M50x is just for listening music. 😁
hi, thus you have better mix results with the dt770 ?
I added a band cover and rolled up a car shami cloth for extra padding. This did two things....added padding and comfort at top, but also made me use more a larger band adjustment which made these pads more comfortable on my head. As far as the pads, I don't know.....my ears fit great into these pads and it sounds great to me. Seem pretty comfortable and I have large ears.
Deconi pads for the 770s...depending on version it even makes different soundprofiles just by the pads.
Craziest transormation was my dt880. Want base, bigger stage and better pads in general. Take the suede pads. Way easier to install (originals are a pain) and great quality. Its crazy...I wanted to by a new headphone. I never thought that switching pads would make them pop again for me.
The first thing I do with these whenever I swap is buy new better thicker softer earpads.
The DT Pro is slightly too small for my head and the weak spots are the plastic joints at the cups and the joints at the headband whereas the M50 CAN get loose and has a similar weak/wear spot, with the major difference that the DT can keep on going even though 1 joint crumbles or breaks.
I have the DT1770 Pros. They're not the most comfortable for long sessions, changing pads is a bit of a nightmare, but they sound incredible. Like a.. tank.
Best choice for sound designer / podcast editor? Work in an office for 2 days and the rest of the week from with noisy traffic driving past my window 😬
I went with the M50's and just brought a pair of WC(Wicked Cusions) replacement ear pads. They are way softer/thicker and I haven't noticed any audio difference. Because they are bigger they don't hurt my ears.
I was literally looking to buy one of these 2 this weekend. Impeccable timing. Thanks again as always
can I use HD770 80 ohm with Presonus Studio 24C audio interface in your opinion ?? And on IPAD-PRO 2020 ??
nice video !