I, personaly, like Jigo. He is ambitious without pride, manipulative without maliciousnes. He can make ends meet, but also can take a loss in good humor. In different narrative he will be a protagonist.
Dude I'm so stoked you're the first reactor to know that the voice was of Goliath from gargoyles . Instant sub . Good luck I'll be watching . Jaegerist forever
Eboshi isn't evil at all I'd say, she is doing what's best for her people and trying to protect them and give them a good life. Yes her methods aren't the best but she doesnt have many other options really. Also she couldn't go back to help Iron town. Or well she could but Jigo wouldn't have gone back with her. So all she would have to help is her and her bodyguard.
One of my favorite movies. I watched it when I was about 10 and it's stayed with me and has remained important to me 15 years later! I loved hearing your thoughts it's always fun seeing someone watch this masterpiece for the first time. One thing I so love about this movie is that it's so nuanced. There isn't truly a villain. Yes, Jigo and Lady Eboshi are definitely the antagonists however I wouldn't say either are particularly 'evil'. Like you said, definitely misguided, but there's so much going on with both of their motivations that, once you really dig deep into it, you can understand. If anyone was really the 'villain' it was Lord Asano, who isn't even in the movie, but has such a huge impact on the stories events simply because of how high in power he is. And as heroic as Ashitaka is, the movie also does a great job putting his neutralist ideals into light and criticizes them in a way where you can see where his choices were not always the best choices. Just a beautiful movie all around. "To look with eyes unclouded by hate" remains one of my top movie quotes of all time. Such a powerful line and it's one that puts the entire movie into perspective.
Yes this is definitely one of my favorites now! Up there with The Iron Giant and Price of Egypt for me! And I love your perspective. I was trying to figure out who the real antagonist in the story was, since I agreed with you that everyone we met was mostly just misguided, not evil. It didn't occur to me that the real bad guy was Lord Asano since we never met him, but I think you're right!
Human civilization only came to far through industrializing, like it or not but we need to iron towns. Without the forests cleared away and the iron towns built, you won't have the screens in front of you.
I love the incredible nuance of this film. We cannot undo what has been done, we can’t turn back time and reverse human discovery and deeds. But we can learn from our ancestors, we can choose how we live moving forward. I believe the philosophy of the film is anti-war, anti-hate. It promotors a pastoral care towards nature, and encourages learning about the perspectives of all people we meet. The subtext of this film is next level
You were asking why Lady Eboshi and Jiko wanted the head in particular so much. Jiko wanted the forest spirit's head so that he could sell it to the emperor, who believes it grants immortality I loved listening to your thoughts on the movie! I'm always glad to see reactors who are so engaged. This is my favorite movie of all time
Ah now that makes sense thank you! They saw a big payday coming haha I really appreciate that! It's definitely one of my favorite animated movies now I've watched it twice more since the reaction lol
It's great to see someone who reacting to this masterpiece. :) But I really recommend re-watch it in japanese language with english subs, in my personal opinion anime sounds weird in different languages than japanese, because japanese people showing emotions differently than western people, so in english it sounds completely different than original. And if you like anime about such topics, I really recommend "Origin: Spirits of the Past", great anime with amazing opening and ending songs by incredible japanese artist Kokia. :)
There is a bit of a problem translating this movie from Japanese to English. While there are different terms for supernatural beings, many fall under the larger term of 'Kami'. A polytheistic and animistic religion, Shinto revolves around supernatural entities called the kami (神). The kami are believed to inhabit all things, including forces of nature and prominent landscape locations. Some Kami are revered as gods, while others can be a spirit inhabiting a rock. Without knowing the background, it's easier to understand if you translate them into gods, spirits, demons and so on. but not knowing that can make it hard to understand some stories like this movie. Especially as sometimes these Kami don't stay the way they are. As we see in this movie, the Wolves and Boars are spirits, but can loose their spiritual site and become animals or even turn into demons. Not only that, they can be killed despite being spirits and also grow old. That's why we in the west can get very confused by this, but that also makes it so interesting. This is just a quick and imprecise comment as you can write entire books just trying to explaining everything.
wow thats amazing information seriously. I can see how when translating for western media it is easier to just describe Kami as spirits or demons, but I'd be interested to learn some more of the nuances. I'm definitely going to look this up thank you!
The reason why Prince Ashitaka was banished from his hometown was because if he stayed, he would turn into a monster and the village would be wiped out. The shrine maiden plotted revenge by sending him as a weapon to the area controlled by the Imperial Family. Jigobou probably sensed this and sent Ashitaka to the Shishigami Forest to defeat the Shishigami. (Ashitaka's clan is a multi-ethnic group from the northeastern region of Japan who were defeated by the Japanese Imperial family hundreds of years ago.) 06:06 Director Miyazaki acknowledges that Ashitaka has a descendant with his hometown fiancée, Kaya. (She is not a sister. In ancient Japan, older men of a similar age in the same community were generally referred to as "brother.") 35:15 He also acknowledges that he has a sexual relationship with Princess Mononoke, San, in the film. The director says, "That's just how men are." The reason why they don't draw it is because "explanatory" depictions don't look cool. It is possible that Ashitaka returned to his hometown with San. Polygamy was common in those days due to the high infant mortality rate. Finally, many Japanese commentators have commented that Eboshi was San's birth mother. The reason for this prediction is that there are many similarities between the lines of Eboshi and Moro. Therefore, this story can also be seen as a battle between San, her foster father Moro, and her biological mother Eboshi, over the forest.
I find this movie to be an incredibly well put together film, and I also find it to be Incredibly gross propaganda with an all around bad message. It is the most mixed bag movie I have ever seen in my life.
I, personaly, like Jigo. He is ambitious without pride, manipulative without maliciousnes. He can make ends meet, but also can take a loss in good humor.
In different narrative he will be a protagonist.
All good points! I don't think he's a bad man, I just thought in this story he was on the wrong side
This should be compulsory in school curriculum
Oh yeah I can definitely see this being a thought provoking film for kids!
indeed
Moro's Japanese voice acting is excellent. Perhaps due to the difficulty of reproducing it in dubbing, the voice is processed to express it.
This is how you tell a story. I love how japan use anime to safe and honor her heritage. Good reaction.
Dude I'm so stoked you're the first reactor to know that the voice was of Goliath from gargoyles . Instant sub . Good luck I'll be watching . Jaegerist forever
lol dude Keith David is my favorite voice actor Goliath and The Arbiter in Halo! I appreciate it!
Same! So glad you recognized his voice too!
You deserve more subs, likes, etc 👍
Eboshi isn't evil at all I'd say, she is doing what's best for her people and trying to protect them and give them a good life. Yes her methods aren't the best but she doesnt have many other options really. Also she couldn't go back to help Iron town. Or well she could but Jigo wouldn't have gone back with her. So all she would have to help is her and her bodyguard.
One of my favorite movies. I watched it when I was about 10 and it's stayed with me and has remained important to me 15 years later! I loved hearing your thoughts it's always fun seeing someone watch this masterpiece for the first time.
One thing I so love about this movie is that it's so nuanced. There isn't truly a villain. Yes, Jigo and Lady Eboshi are definitely the antagonists however I wouldn't say either are particularly 'evil'. Like you said, definitely misguided, but there's so much going on with both of their motivations that, once you really dig deep into it, you can understand. If anyone was really the 'villain' it was Lord Asano, who isn't even in the movie, but has such a huge impact on the stories events simply because of how high in power he is.
And as heroic as Ashitaka is, the movie also does a great job putting his neutralist ideals into light and criticizes them in a way where you can see where his choices were not always the best choices. Just a beautiful movie all around.
"To look with eyes unclouded by hate" remains one of my top movie quotes of all time. Such a powerful line and it's one that puts the entire movie into perspective.
Yes this is definitely one of my favorites now! Up there with The Iron Giant and Price of Egypt for me!
And I love your perspective. I was trying to figure out who the real antagonist in the story was, since I agreed with you that everyone we met was mostly just misguided, not evil. It didn't occur to me that the real bad guy was Lord Asano since we never met him, but I think you're right!
Human civilization only came to far through industrializing, like it or not but we need to iron towns. Without the forests cleared away and the iron towns built, you won't have the screens in front of you.
True! Although I will say I am positive we could have accomplished the same with methods that are much less destructive to the environment!
The scenes in this movie were inspired by Yaskushima Island :)
Thank you for this! I just looked it up it’s going on my bucket list. From what I saw it’s quite the journey to get there
I love the incredible nuance of this film.
We cannot undo what has been done, we can’t turn back time and reverse human discovery and deeds. But we can learn from our ancestors, we can choose how we live moving forward. I believe the philosophy of the film is anti-war, anti-hate. It promotors a pastoral care towards nature, and encourages learning about the perspectives of all people we meet.
The subtext of this film is next level
You were asking why Lady Eboshi and Jiko wanted the head in particular so much. Jiko wanted the forest spirit's head so that he could sell it to the emperor, who believes it grants immortality
I loved listening to your thoughts on the movie! I'm always glad to see reactors who are so engaged. This is my favorite movie of all time
Ah now that makes sense thank you! They saw a big payday coming haha
I really appreciate that! It's definitely one of my favorite animated movies now I've watched it twice more since the reaction lol
One of the reasons for this is that the Imperial Family's influence was declining during this period.
It's great to see someone who reacting to this masterpiece. :) But I really recommend re-watch it in japanese language with english subs, in my personal opinion anime sounds weird in different languages than japanese, because japanese people showing emotions differently than western people, so in english it sounds completely different than original. And if you like anime about such topics, I really recommend "Origin: Spirits of the Past", great anime with amazing opening and ending songs by incredible japanese artist Kokia. :)
good reaction bro, Love that movie!
I was blown away! Gonna watch again tonight with my girl lol
I subscribed because you're a cute brotha who loves anime, gaming and old school cartoons and I got all that from the first 3 mins lol
There is a bit of a problem translating this movie from Japanese to English. While there are different terms for supernatural beings, many fall under the larger term of 'Kami'.
A polytheistic and animistic religion, Shinto revolves around supernatural entities called the kami (神). The kami are believed to inhabit all things, including forces of nature and prominent landscape locations.
Some Kami are revered as gods, while others can be a spirit inhabiting a rock. Without knowing the background, it's easier to understand if you translate them into gods, spirits, demons and so on. but not knowing that can make it hard to understand some stories like this movie. Especially as sometimes these Kami don't stay the way they are. As we see in this movie, the Wolves and Boars are spirits, but can loose their spiritual site and become animals or even turn into demons. Not only that, they can be killed despite being spirits and also grow old.
That's why we in the west can get very confused by this, but that also makes it so interesting.
This is just a quick and imprecise comment as you can write entire books just trying to explaining everything.
wow thats amazing information seriously. I can see how when translating for western media it is easier to just describe Kami as spirits or demons, but I'd be interested to learn some more of the nuances. I'm definitely going to look this up thank you!
The reason why Prince Ashitaka was banished from his hometown was because if he stayed, he would turn into a monster and the village would be wiped out. The shrine maiden plotted revenge by sending him as a weapon to the area controlled by the Imperial Family. Jigobou probably sensed this and sent Ashitaka to the Shishigami Forest to defeat the Shishigami.
(Ashitaka's clan is a multi-ethnic group from the northeastern region of Japan who were defeated by the Japanese Imperial family hundreds of years ago.)
06:06
Director Miyazaki acknowledges that Ashitaka has a descendant with his hometown fiancée, Kaya.
(She is not a sister. In ancient Japan, older men of a similar age in the same community were generally referred to as "brother.")
35:15
He also acknowledges that he has a sexual relationship with Princess Mononoke, San, in the film.
The director says, "That's just how men are."
The reason why they don't draw it is because "explanatory" depictions don't look cool.
It is possible that Ashitaka returned to his hometown with San. Polygamy was common in those days due to the high infant mortality rate.
Finally, many Japanese commentators have commented that Eboshi was San's birth mother.
The reason for this prediction is that there are many similarities between the lines of Eboshi and Moro.
Therefore, this story can also be seen as a battle between San, her foster father Moro, and her biological mother Eboshi, over the forest.
I find this movie to be an incredibly well put together film, and I also find it to be Incredibly gross propaganda with an all around bad message. It is the most mixed bag movie I have ever seen in my life.