Engineer Explains: Raspberry Pi is FINALLY Dead, Here's Why

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    The Zima Board is a new contender in the single-board computer market and is being touted as a potential replacement for the popular Raspberry Pi. With Intel Celeron N3350 Dual Core and N3450 Quad Core CPUs, 2-8GB LPDDR4 RAM, and 32GB eMMC storage, this board boasts impressive specs that make it faster than its competitor. It also features 2x SATA 6.0 Gb/s Ports, 2x GbE LAN Ports, 2x USB 3.0, and 1x Mini-DisplayPort 1.2 4k@60Hz, making it a versatile option for a variety of applications. It supports various operating systems including Linux, Windows, OpenWrt, pfSense, Android, and Librelec, and comes pre-installed with CasaOS, which is based on Debian. The Zima Board's passive cooling system, along with its Intel VT-d, VT-x, and AES-NI features, make it an attractive option for those looking for high-performance computing in a small form factor.
    The video delves into the world of single board computers, with a focus on the Zima Board and its comparison to the Raspberry Pi. The Zima Board is a new single board computer that is designed to look cool and function as a personal micro server. It features a custom cooling system that allows it to operate without a fan, which provides silent and efficient operation. It also has onboard eMMC storage and ships with an international power adapter, setting it apart from its competitor, the Raspberry Pi.
    The article provides a detailed comparison of the price of the Zima Board and the Raspberry Pi Model B. Despite the current state of the market, the Raspberry Pi still comes out ahead by a healthy margin. Additionally, the power consumption of both devices is compared, with the Zima Board being more power-efficient.
    The Zima Board is equipped with an Intel Celeron Processor ‘Appollo Lake’ and 8GB memory. It comes with a debian based OS called casa OS, which provides 1-click installs of commonly used applications. The article also sheds light on the CPU architecture of the Zima Board and the Raspberry Pi, with the Zima Board sporting an Intel x86 chip and the Raspberry Pi using the newer ARM architecture.
    The Zima Board offers various features, including the ability to run a Plex media server, set up a personal NAS, use it as a router with OpenWrt or pfSense, create a network-wide ad-blocker with piHole, run a VPN, or use it for edge intelligence projects. However, the Raspberry Pi's strong community and software support for the GPIO pins make it a valuable tool for many projects.
    The article concludes that the Raspberry Pi is still a top choice for many projects, whether you're a seasoned maker or just getting started with SBCs. The article highlights the importance of a strong community and software support when it comes to SBCs and emphasizes the need to consider factors such as price, power consumption, and CPU architecture when making a purchasing decision.
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  • @ReonBalisty
    @ReonBalisty 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +356

    This video did not age well with the announcement of the pi 5.

    • @DataSlayerMedia
      @DataSlayerMedia  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

      My timing was impeccable... =/

    • @FartSquirel
      @FartSquirel 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      did not age well? How about dead on arrival? I'm just a curious person on this Pi thing and even I knew there was a Pi 5 on the way 6 months ago.

    • @Sarge92
      @Sarge92 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      no i agree the pi foundations rein is coming to a end and heres why
      pi launched with a simple and noble goal
      get afforable computing into the hands of children everywhere so they can learn computing and programming
      they set in place a series of goals to achieve that the product had to be
      cheap and affordable that most households regardless of income could afford it they achieved this with the £25-£30 price tag
      not require any expensive gear to set it up it used phone chargers and tv connections even had composite video just incase the family was poor enough to still have a non hdmi tv
      be accesible to kids in schools and computer clubs and at home
      but year on year release upon release they have drifted further and further away by persuing faster and faster soc's instead of cheaper and cheaper ones and by allowing the community to bloat out the specs to suit there every niche desire
      then they prioritised industyr partners like point of sales manufacturers and industriaol automation suppliers over children as per the foundations mission statement with the remaining production flow trickling to the public to get snatched by scalpers whilst pi foundation did nothing to try and kerb this
      finally they complicated there product line by introducing several models all with different specs further complicating supply chains
      now we have a board that in some configurations costs close to 100 dollars uses display connectors most havnt even heard of let alone own unless there tech enthusiats
      even if the kids families could afford them there getting snatched up so fast there unobtainium
      then for the rest of the community they also got screwed
      now companies are cranking out port for port clones many with better specs than the pi so when i go to purchase a pi now for that awesome case i saw its not how do i get a pi its who has the best device
      pi couldnt ever compete on specs they should have stayed with price and availability
      now pi is trying to compete on specs and the entire rest of the market has them beat and there supply chains are more stable than pi foundations
      i apreciate everything pi foundation has done but they ultimatly lost sight of why they did this in the first place

    • @hanfo420
      @hanfo420 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      @@DataSlayerMedia timing? I would say it was more the lack of research and greed 😂

    • @FoxPlays-roblox
      @FoxPlays-roblox 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      you can buy 3 raspberry pi 5's for the same price

  • @sylveswe
    @sylveswe 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +723

    I hate videos like this. Unless the board is in the same price range as a Raspberry Pi, then it's not a "pi killer".

    • @TheNefastor
      @TheNefastor 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +106

      Exactly. Otherwise my Core i7 laptop is a Pi killer. It's dumb. I'm thumbing down the video.

    • @magnushansen6063
      @magnushansen6063 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Couldn't agree more

    • @VentandInvent
      @VentandInvent 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      When is your raspberry pi 5 coming to your home at msrp of $80?

    • @danielpicassomunoz2752
      @danielpicassomunoz2752 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@VentandInventcouple of months, though @ $100 USD

    • @Hornet135
      @Hornet135 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Even the raspberry pi isn’t the same price as the raspberry pi.

  • @kamertonaudiophileplayer847
    @kamertonaudiophileplayer847 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +138

    $229.99 vs 74.99. So it's 3 times more expensive, but it's better 3x times better? This video still keeps me puzzled.

    • @0x0081
      @0x0081 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Touche… lol. Zimaboard don’t have a place anywhere for what it costs. For the money you can get a tiny pc with way more performance. Rpi has its place and is here to stay especially is back in stock everywhere (atlist in Europe)

    • @kamertonaudiophileplayer847
      @kamertonaudiophileplayer847 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@0x0081 Exactly.

    • @MYtastePT
      @MYtastePT 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@0x0081you can actually get the zima board 842 (the high end one) for 150€ and the mid one for 120€ with shipping included. They do sales/coupons every now and then.
      It's competitive at that price if you have a use for the sata/PCIE lanes IMO

    • @luisbperez368
      @luisbperez368 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Agreed, when the Pi reached $200, I got a great deal with a tiny Celeron 5105 8Gb 256Gb for $120, no brainer here; I got 4 to supplement my four-node Raspberry Pi cluster. I even set up a 5105 as a 4 Tb RAID NAS, which works like a champ. Now, Pi is returning to its MSRP prices and got two more for $55.00 each. Pi still has a purpose in the present, but if the Pi Foundation does not get back to designing a replacement soon, they will leave too far behind. Stay safe.

    • @kamertonaudiophileplayer847
      @kamertonaudiophileplayer847 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@luisbperez368 I see currently many alternatives and I even jumped to one and has no regrets because it's much better for me than RPi 4, although a little more expensive. Maybe RPi glory days will return, but not in this year.

  • @ninline2000
    @ninline2000 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    These paid reviewers have been telling me the Raspberry Pi is dead for many years now. It's boring.

    • @beholdthegoober
      @beholdthegoober 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What's funny is that he made a short before this shilling for IceWhale/Zima Board and he didn't even say whether or not he is a paid sponsor.

    • @KangasAri
      @KangasAri 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@beholdthegoober He said he got 10 of those devices ( = >$2k ) for free.

  • @ericfielding668
    @ericfielding668 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    My seven-year-old's computer is a Raspberry Pi CM4 mounted to a carrier board in a small enclosure. He follows through the RPi guides aimed at children. Zima doesn't have that level of community, so it is premature to claim RPi is dead.

    • @jovialcupid9687
      @jovialcupid9687 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Esp32 is way cheaper, magnitude more powerful and capable with so many new features.. yet still Arduino won't die

    • @Giniek
      @Giniek 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@jovialcupid9687 For a second I thought that you tried to compare the CM4 to the ESP32, luckily you compared it to the Arduino 😂

    • @Henry-sv3wv
      @Henry-sv3wv 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      But you can program an ESP32 as an Arduino. The Zima is not community compatible with the raspi.

    • @unixux
      @unixux 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jovialcupid9687it won’t die because that’s the appeal of AVR … stale AF, slow 8 bit thing with tiny everything (well the board itself is huge) is its pluses not minuses

    • @kborak
      @kborak 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      My 8 year old has a 5800x with a 2070 super. You must like frustrating your kid. Yes, my son runs Arch before you try.

  • @bettoperu
    @bettoperu 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Data Slayer: Raspberry Pi is finally dead.
    Raspberry Pi: Hold my beer......

    • @B18bVtec
      @B18bVtec 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Boom pi 5

  • @thedude2404
    @thedude2404 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Remember he is being sponsored so he needs to do a clickbait to get viewers... Raspberry Pi 5 is better and cheaper. My advise is to block this dude and report his video for misleading. If more than 60% of the viewers report him he gets a ban and they demonetize his videos.

  • @marklewus5468
    @marklewus5468 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    Interesting how fast things change. This video is a month old. As of today I can buy an 8 GB pi4 in stock at Digikey for $75 plus $15 for a power supply that almost everyone already has. The Pi5 8gb with RTC, PCIe2, and 2-3x the Pi4’s performance will ship in October for $80, plus maybe $20 for a 5A power supply. While the N3350 passmark is about equivalent to the pi4, the Pi5 will be much faster. Even with a fan and case it will be $75 cheaper.

    • @geobot9k
      @geobot9k 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      My thoughts exactly. I was kind of curious to see if anyone has come into this video since the pi5 announcement to say “this video aged like milk”

    • @rosslomath
      @rosslomath 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Seems the pi 5 is a video killer in this instance 😅

    • @BogdanOlteanu-profile
      @BogdanOlteanu-profile 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I smell paid commercial with this video :-) and just a fancy board :))

    • @geobot9k
      @geobot9k 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BogdanOlteanu-profile For real, so many videos feel like under the table ads now. Slight tangent, I ended up picking up a pi5 and its been pretty fun. It runs 7B large language models with llama.cpp returning around 2 tokens per/second but I am helping the heatsink/fan combo with an extra 40mm noctua to keep temps

    • @FutureReverberations
      @FutureReverberations 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just ordered a pi 5 yesterday, couldnt get the 8gig at any price so had to settle for 4. Got it at MSRP Though, so thats something!

  • @rogerlevasseur397
    @rogerlevasseur397 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I was learning all about RISC design development in the early 1980s and saw (and used) a few RISC based computers starting in the late 1980s. While ARM is a RISC design, it is not the only RISC design that was created, though sadly, many of those other RISC processors created in the 80s and 90s have either fallen by the wayside, or become niche products over the entire computer market.
    I seriously doubt that Pi is dead - so many Pi's that are manufactured are finding their way into manufactured products, not just home hobbyists.

    • @fuzzywzhe
      @fuzzywzhe 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      PI isn't dead. We're moving toward ARM, not away from it. ARM was the best RISC to survive, I don't cry for the lack of PPC or Sparc. If you've ever coded in ARM assembly, it's just a pleasure.

  • @martinfilteau8668
    @martinfilteau8668 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I prefer the Orange PI 5 Plus: 8 cores (4x Cortex-A76, 4x Cortex-A55), up to 16GB RAM and 256GB eMMC, etc... around 92 to 135 USD.

    • @trevorberridge6079
      @trevorberridge6079 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The Orange Pi 5 Plus is a great board. Orange Pi do really good SBCs. However, they also charge more than you pay for the equivalent Raspberry Pi.

  • @Mezoloth
    @Mezoloth 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Error: "It has 4, quad cores." It actually has 4 cores, with 1 thread per core. What you said would make it a 16 thread processor; it's not a 16 thread processor.

  • @gordonhill8164
    @gordonhill8164 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    £\$230? House brick size? Not a chance is this taking over.
    Not for me anyway.

  • @JazzTechie
    @JazzTechie 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    A few things turn me off about the Zima - the giant brick design (can’t build around it like a raw PCB), no GPIO, and the cost for what you get. Seems like it only fills the “OS host” niche where raspberry PIs you can use to run a robot AND host a plex server lol. Additionally, there are cheaper rockchip based boards that blow it out of the water with features/performance/power.

  • @worgle123
    @worgle123 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    8 months later, and they are out of stock literally everywhere 💀

  • @frans_d7989
    @frans_d7989 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was shocked when I saw the Australian price of the ZimaBoard AU$441 compare for a complete PI5 AU$160.

  • @viperzero8501
    @viperzero8501 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ll definitely buy one when they come up with a N95 CPU (not N100) model.

  • @ivolol
    @ivolol 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The answer to every question inside a content title: No.
    x86 is convenient, but it's double the price.

    • @gordonhill8164
      @gordonhill8164 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      More than double the price.

    • @lovemadeinjapan
      @lovemadeinjapan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Half the price. You can get a i5 with HD630 graphics, 8GB RAM, PSU, 256GB SSD and built in screen for 50€ It's even more power efficient as it has a 14nm chip.

  • @ulfrinn8783
    @ulfrinn8783 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    "I was surprised to find 10 of these at my doorstep." Okay, so this is a paid advertisement. Got it.

  • @cheeseburgerinvr
    @cheeseburgerinvr 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    as someone with an extension to return the dislike button stuff, the like to dislike ratio on this video is hilarious, 1/4th is likes and the rest is dislikes lollllll

  • @andrewalmodovar1227
    @andrewalmodovar1227 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I like the pie and I think there’s such a community around it I think it will reign supreme for a long time BUT I’m like you mentioned in the beginning of the video it’s nice to see alternatives and new ideas and more

  • @gandhar1277
    @gandhar1277 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    4:26 - Did not know Jason Statham was creator of the Raspberry PI.

  • @fieryfirevivin
    @fieryfirevivin 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The dislike ratio tells me what i need to know

  • @DocHollidayGames
    @DocHollidayGames 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How does emulation compare on the Zima boards compared to the pi 4/5?

  • @Well_Edumacated
    @Well_Edumacated 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i swear all the naysayers of the Raspberry Pi 5 are the people who DIDN'T get one to test...we shall see what you say when you buy your own.

  • @arghyaprotimhalder5592
    @arghyaprotimhalder5592 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Raspberry pie
    That things once costed 4000-6000 INR
    50-80$
    Now costs
    17000 INR
    200$ something

  • @andrewborntrager7909
    @andrewborntrager7909 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dude, you are correct. The elephant in the room is price. Your link wants $229 for this. Raspberry pi5 complete kit with a case, power supply and 64gb sd card is only $160.

  • @coppersteel27
    @coppersteel27 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Really not a fan of the obnoxious frequent captions in the middle of the frame.

  • @kyuubisa
    @kyuubisa 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think Zima has only one-way concept; like it actually is only for servers or gaming stuff etc. like only being as computers and computing it also this way.
    But Raspberry Pi(s) are actually combinable, you can literally do anything with your Raspberry Pi, not only servering but also some mini or bigger projects.

  • @ugotapi
    @ugotapi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Pi 5 is immortal, kinda like Obi-Wan. Everyone builds for it and there are millions of them.

  • @abvmoose87
    @abvmoose87 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for making the effort and noting the potential difference in electricity costs between US vs EU.
    It's worth noting and is sometimes overlooked when covering this topic.

  • @jamesl.5849
    @jamesl.5849 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I think both products have two different focus. The zima is a I/O powerhouse when compared to PI. It is a much better nas product or network product. The review should have cover these features in the review better. Zima can have two m.2 cards at up to 2GB/s bandwidth, 7 SATA drives at 3.5GB/s bandwidth, 10Gb network card or WIFI 6e card. While the PI has support for specialized i/o that the Zima does not have. I have a PI and now ordered a Zima to build a TrueNas server.

  • @feralshad0w
    @feralshad0w 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Was this a pie five gets a lot more than 16 mb per second... I might be interested in this new board if you can run omada controller software because that's some pretty impressive power consumption

  • @RWBHere
    @RWBHere หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You have no idea how annoying that individual word text in the middle of the screen can be...
    Maybe I missed it, but which model of Pi 4 did you use, and how much RAM did it have, compared to the Zima?
    The Pi 5 knocks the socks off the Pi 4, and availability has returned to normal. So the Zima needs to be compared with it. Maybe it needs a Zimmer now? 😉

  • @jeremyandrews3292
    @jeremyandrews3292 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The Raspberry Pi was really never intended to be a good SBC, it's intended to be fully open-source hardware that can be used for education, or for various electronics hobbies via GPIO pins. If you just want a low-power, single-board computer that doesn't cost a lot of money, the Pi hasn't been a good deal since COVID. They also made some really awful decisions over the years that would make the product totally unviable for anything other than education/hobbyist use, like I believe one of the Pi models introduced a 64-bit processor while sticking with only 1GB of RAM. That was a really stupid move, simply because a 64-bit OS will take up more space in RAM... 1GB is just not enough for a 64-bit OS. There's a reason why Microsoft requires 1GB for 32-bit Windows 10, but 2GB for 64-bit Windows 10. It's probably better for both the Pi and everyone else if the Pi is left to its niche, and we get alternatives that are aimed mainly at being the low-cost, low-power SBCs people wanted the Pi to be.

    • @jankomuzykant1844
      @jankomuzykant1844 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      RPi was never fully open source neither open hardware

  • @jobasti
    @jobasti หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like the video! Where can i find the 10 cluster k8s zima board video?

  • @dennisc6716
    @dennisc6716 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It only took 2 minutes for this video to morph into a commercial.

  • @brslade
    @brslade 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I am in pain thinking about the dumbing down of hobby computers.
    People that buy a Pi buy it to tinker, not as a canned complete products.
    Both the charm and the functionality rely on its simplicity.

  • @dfmayes
    @dfmayes หลายเดือนก่อน

    When I think of a Raspberry Pi replacement, I don't think of a tank like that.

  • @grimmsalem
    @grimmsalem หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The best thing I find is the support you get along with the huge knowledge base

  • @g.h.2800
    @g.h.2800 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I made 114.45 MiB/sec on an Argon one M.2 Case with RPi4. That beats the ZimaBoard internal eMMC storage.

  • @scottwilkins
    @scottwilkins 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If they want to be considered a "server" 2mb cache won't do it. The processor is powerful enough, but it needs to be more beefy.

  • @JohnJTraston
    @JohnJTraston 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Raspberry Pi is NOT about the hardware. It's about the software, the ecosystem, the community, etc... That's what all those "Raspberry Pi Killers" don't understand.

  • @CaptainDangeax
    @CaptainDangeax 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My RPi3 with bmc64 is the best C64 C128 emulation so far. I don't expect any RPi to replace any of my Intel Core or AMD64 pc

  • @christianmccauley7340
    @christianmccauley7340 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What makes the pi so valuable isn’t its performance, it’s the documentation and compatibility. Sure, other SBCs are more powerful and theoretically cheaper. But lord they are not practical or often even functional.

  • @utopify
    @utopify 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What's the name of the software, which lets you draw somewhere on the screen while recording it? btw. Chappie and Transcendence are good movies :P

  • @odobloch205
    @odobloch205 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    220€ is a hughe step up from 35€ :(
    although: there are mini x86 pc w/dual eth +8GB out there for 150€

    • @lovemadeinjapan
      @lovemadeinjapan 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      14nm quad core for 60-70€ with SSD and 8GB. 150 is way too much

  • @user-xz5yk8co2v
    @user-xz5yk8co2v 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The only reason why the raspberry pi is getting challenged is because no one can buy one at msrp. 💀

  • @AndrewFalgout
    @AndrewFalgout 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Raspberry Pi shares the same bus between the usb and the network, which gives horrible performance for NAS. I wonder if the Zima is setup the same way?

    • @sylveswe
      @sylveswe 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Didn't they change that for the Pi4?

    • @theelectricmonk3909
      @theelectricmonk3909 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sylveswe Even if they did (and I don't know the answer), and even with the newly released Pi5 coming in at 2x (or better) performance than the Pi4 - it seems to me the Zima board would still make a better NAS - because it's got SATA and M.2 support, which the Pi does not.
      For pretty much every other use case, it seems to me the Pi has the Zima comprehensively beaten. I'd buy a Zima to make a NAS, but I'd buy 5 Raspberry Pi's just to play around with stuff.

    • @quademasters249
      @quademasters249 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@theelectricmonk3909 PI5 has an exposed PCI-E lane so it can do NVME M.2. You just need a daughter card.

    • @theelectricmonk3909
      @theelectricmonk3909 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@quademasters249 Oh, cool, didn't know that... RPi5 availability is almost nil here, so I've not looked into it much yet

    • @quademasters249
      @quademasters249 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@theelectricmonk3909 Yeah it's not out yet. Lots of reviews on YT. Looks exciting.

  • @user-we9eb4we3q
    @user-we9eb4we3q หลายเดือนก่อน

    Trying to find a platform to develop a mountain webcam on a PI base with Sim card for under 100$ .... there used to be orange pi, but they don't produce it any more. any idea?

  • @elevate32767
    @elevate32767 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lmao the price isn't even in the same ballpark.

  • @edumneto
    @edumneto 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    raspberry PI is very expensive in other countries, especially here in Brazil, the proposal for a cheap computer simply failed, at least here in Brazil

    • @hiteck007
      @hiteck007 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same problem in australia

  • @SKIDDOW
    @SKIDDOW 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Not yet as 2024 April Broh! Raspberry Pi got big community, which means fast developments and more supports.

  • @09Creeperboy
    @09Creeperboy หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have to ask: why is the title asserting that the pi is dead, yet at the end of the video, you say the pi is still the top choice (so not dead?) for most people?

  • @MrBorderdown
    @MrBorderdown 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Actual engineer here. I celebrate any affordable tech because i can see past my self centered world view.

  • @InfoSoup
    @InfoSoup 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There have been 100s of SBCs who claim to kill RPi, but Raspberry Pi is still there, with ARM picking up stake in Raspberry Pi foundation, the position is further solidified.
    The key is eco-system, none of these default SBC wannabes, lack that. Besides Raspberry Pi foundation has not yet shot themselves in the foot, they have not increased the price substantially, neither they have stopped innovation, if in fact they have started to develop own silicon, which many smaller companies cannot afford.
    So Raspberry Pi is here to stay at least for a decade.

    • @lovemadeinjapan
      @lovemadeinjapan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I do not agree. OK, the Pi will be kept alive by fanboys, but as a computing solution for most uses it was once popular for it is obsolete. When the Pi was new, it had steller price/performance, unseen in the industry. Today the average retired school/banking laptop is better on every aspect: faster, more RAM/storage, cheaper, more energy efficient. OK, it is not sexy to use a beaten up laptop for things like emulation of home servers compared to getting a fresh new Pi, but it is better for your wallet, better for you applications in terms of performance/watt, and it is better to use something that already exists instead of creating new eWaste. Also that laptop runs proper OSes as well. Leaving Debian behind is a godsend.

  • @keytron888
    @keytron888 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a owner of both Pi4 and Zimaboard I can say the Raspberry series will and not be dead for a long time. Zimaboard is just another generic x86 board, that we allready have millions of variations of. The fact that Zimaboard comes in a "hackable" form factor means only it has interesting case design and a PCI-E on its side. Other than that - any generic aliexpress miniPC in on par or even better than the Zima.

  • @kentharris7427
    @kentharris7427 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I use a Raspberry PI 5 to run a laser engraver in the garage, not sure how a Zimmer board is going to end a PI, there is a major price difference and I am pretty sure not everyone uses a PI for sever applications.

  • @Cedarranch
    @Cedarranch 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the raspberry pi board is 60 to 80 dollars for the new pi 5 on their website

  • @fuzzywzhe
    @fuzzywzhe 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    From the description: ".... With Intel Celeron N3350 Dual Core "
    NOPE - it's not going to compete against the PI. There's no chance. The ARM cores are extremely scalable, and can go much faster. The PI is designed to be inexpensive and with that, you can get 4K video now for under $50.
    I'm an engineer, I'm looking for a FINISHED product around $35 or below. With case, power supply, and storage, that doubles in price. This is because MY product will have to be sold around the price, certainly under $100.

  • @EcksGamer
    @EcksGamer หลายเดือนก่อน

    Most people i know buying Pi 5's mainly for using as a daily PC for emails and such to emulation mainly just buys the 4gb model over the 8gb model just because of the cost and also there is no performance difference to what they do with their systems.

  • @armisis
    @armisis หลายเดือนก่อน

    I use my zima board with my raspberry pi 5. They work well together. I prefer pi over zima because zimaboard is powerful but the user base of pi is much much greater. I do like casaos need some improvements and the ability to reach it like home assistant..

  • @greyman5590
    @greyman5590 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Did your ARM’s get tired?

  • @gunashekaran8282
    @gunashekaran8282 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have my new raspberry Pi 5 but if i run my cnn or yolov5 model it shuts down can yu say what would be the reason

  • @noktrnl123
    @noktrnl123 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Didn't get a quarter through the video. Unfortunately the cc overlay is more of a distraction than informative especially since you speak clear enough to not need it. Maybe I'll watch this later as it seems like it could be interesting.

  • @kayakMike1000
    @kayakMike1000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jeeze. One zima board is worth two or three raspberry pi.
    Besides, the XU4 annhilated the pi2 and pi3 in value ten years ago, pi didn't go anywhere.

  • @AkshitKubadia-fr2hb
    @AkshitKubadia-fr2hb 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    For 200$ You can get a amd ryzen 5600u apu + 16 ram + 500gb mini pc with hdmi $ usb and adapter etc etc

  • @B.330
    @B.330 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don’t understand. Is the zima board a raspberry pi except it doesn’t have a hdmi cord?

  • @mutantthegreat7963
    @mutantthegreat7963 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Intel NUC Pentium 6005 uses less than 3 watts when idle. Obviously more when doing stuff, but isn't the whole point of a server that most of the time when you're not using it, it is idle.. The NUC smashes the pi out of the water. It is 5 times faster at building docker containers.

    • @lovemadeinjapan
      @lovemadeinjapan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Full active it might be on par energy-wise. Remember the Pi is still made on 22nm fab. You can get cheap intels on 14nm or even 10nm.

  • @igorua241
    @igorua241 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You are definitely in favour for that Zima...

  • @user-hd9xd2qm3s
    @user-hd9xd2qm3s 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    if you are wanting something for emulation. a mini pc is by far the better choice for the price ranges of either the pi 4 or pi 5. now i cant speak as to either devices abilities in regards to anything outside of emulation so im not saying they don't have value for what they can achieve on everything. just emulation .and ive tested my pi 4 thoroughly. and i don't see the pi 5 as a big step up for emulation for the price point when i can add another 40 bucks or so to my over all purchase and buy a used or refurbished mini pc that can run circles around either the pi 4 or 5.

  • @fyrebatskymarshall1778
    @fyrebatskymarshall1778 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    they named it zima, but the branding is orange. this saddens me

  • @googleuser8041
    @googleuser8041 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good video itself, but the title ruins it. Clickbait. And the author literally showed the most basic, bland use case. Pi hole is not the primary reason people get a Pi. They get a Pi for IoT projects and the 3rd party kits made for Pi, such as those made by RetroFlag. And yes it's clickbait. When the content itself contradicts the title, it's clickbait. And it's sad really, it's not a poorly made video, it's a video with no useful information. It's an Ad for a new sbc.

  • @byteme6346
    @byteme6346 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I made a NAS with a Pi4B and a 18TB USB HDD. But I couldn't get any system monitor graphs or graphs from Mission Center. I have ordered a celeron based nuc, so I can get back to mainstream, and ditch the toy Raspberries and their immature/unstable linux distros. I've had enough of Arm junk. The new nuc has 4 3.0 usb ports, a 2.5 GB LAN, and an NVME SSD. I'll be able to run makeMKV directly on it, avoiding the time to copy movies over ethernet.

    • @lovemadeinjapan
      @lovemadeinjapan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A Pi with a 18TB HDD over USB, yikes! The Pi has some inferior USB3 controller, not up to this kind of stuff.

  • @whatgaca
    @whatgaca 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    But.. Micro PC like Ryzen 5 5500U is about 3 times faster in terms of performance of Zima with NVMe. Power draw is tripled, but performance is also triple. When I am building a K3S cluster, it is cheaper to run with a micro pc than having 2 Zimas running as slaves

  • @Mark-tp9ew
    @Mark-tp9ew 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    whats a CSS three cluster?

  • @4m05
    @4m05 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    zimaboard cost alot more than the rpi 4 and 5, you want to keep costs down for projects so for me the pi wins again, if the prices drop for the 432 or 832 I may take a closer look

  • @joegopher9280
    @joegopher9280 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A $50 i5-6500T 16GB ram hp mini PC on ebay is the game changer.😂

  • @GuilhermeGomes2
    @GuilhermeGomes2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    as inaccurate as announcing a platform that costs like gold but no one ever got one.

  • @ArtyTheNewOne
    @ArtyTheNewOne 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    240$ vs 40-90$ just get a i7 refurbished dell laptop for 180$ depending what you wanna do with it

    • @Fosgen
      @Fosgen 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I prefer older Lenovo/Dell/HP 1 liter mini PCs. You can pick 4 core 6th or 7th gen i5/i7, expendable up to 64 gig RAM DDR4, multi m.2 slots and SATA. I have few, bought in range 70-110 USD. Great machines.

  • @Alexakoss__
    @Alexakoss__ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the zima board is literraly 148$ and the raspberry pi 5 with 8 gigs is only 80$

  • @viktable5955
    @viktable5955 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    some x86 mini computer (on board) is not a competition vs rpi... bro

  • @pcdoc2000
    @pcdoc2000 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    who the hell is using the mSD card to copy lots of data? And then use a crappy slow card too? Pointless... Esspecially if somebody cares, the Pi5 can use a NVME drive to boot from (adapter needed).
    I'm also not exactly sure what you did to get an idle power consumption of 3,4W on the raspi. My Raspi 4 with a fan consumes 2-3W in idle.
    If you are looking purely for a server, things might be slightly different, but a lot of people do like the versatility of the raspi with it's GPIO headders.
    I like the PCIe connector though and that it comes with 2 LAN Ports which are needed for some server use cases.
    building a cluster is fun, but there is not really any value in doing so. For that money you can get HW which does a better job.

  • @victorvitez7328
    @victorvitez7328 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hi, sorry to comment negative stuff, but god damn it is the mrbeast style subtitle text word for word while you talk annoying! please consider using that much more sparingly

  • @trevorberridge6079
    @trevorberridge6079 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Raspberry Pi sales, demand and huge support all put the lie to this ridiculous premise. This has to be a click bait title. In the list of things the Zima board can do I can't see anything that the Raspberry Pi can't also do. I use it as my main computer over and above my desktop Windows 10 PC, which may be a bit old now but it's the most powerful computer I've ever owned and it comes second to my Pi. Unless speed is an absolute necessity when executing complex tasks like high end video editing or 3D graphic rendering, a PC has no advantage over an SBC like the Pi. I run Kdenlive, GIMP, LibreOffice, Plex, TH-cam at 1440HD, a screen recorder, screen capture, console emulation, Windows PC emulation, Steam... There's nothing I want to do that I haven't been able to do and the Pi inspires me to do so much more than I ever have. And the Raspberry Pi 5 steps it up even higher.

  • @JNET_Reloaded
    @JNET_Reloaded 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Urbnewest vi's is gone can you re up it? Also will 4gb version work for the gpt local pi?

    • @DataSlayerMedia
      @DataSlayerMedia  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yea there was an issue, it's back up. Leave another glowing comment :)

  • @artfuldodger5707
    @artfuldodger5707 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    an Intel NUC with windows 11 pro license and 256GB ssd has the same price as top spec Zima board, same hardware, except the fact it has only 1 lan port, also you should know here in Europe we have solar panels too, we're not living in stone age....

  • @DAVIDGREGORYKERR
    @DAVIDGREGORYKERR 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why could they have gone with a A10-7800k or a A10-7860k and 32GB of DDR3 RAM

  • @buildmaker
    @buildmaker 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    200$ and 100$ price comparison? Pi users + support + projects + different OS =/= Zima

  • @SentryGaming275
    @SentryGaming275 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    And if I want GPIOs to control LEDs without needing an external device, what then?

  • @unixux
    @unixux 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Woah I had to look and does he seriously think that a $240 Celeron-based mini-PC which is what zimaboard is , is gonna KILL rPI ? If anything, look at the myriad other sub-$100 designs like oDroid, orange Pi, various riscv designs and even esp32. And if I wanna blow some cache it’s gonna be Jetson or Jetson Orin, definitely not some celery turd

  • @peteygnyc
    @peteygnyc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Raspberry Pi 5 has just been released and spanks most micro PC's...your move, chief.

  • @karkonda5653
    @karkonda5653 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Small form factor i5 desktops are available for $150, and refurbs from Dell even cheaper if you get a good deal! Go figure!!!

  • @siulee88
    @siulee88 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    compare price? zima is more expensive

  • @notraeon
    @notraeon หลายเดือนก่อน

    "the zimaboard does seem to come out ahead.." like its not 5x the price lmao ???

  • @cutback443
    @cutback443 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    lol bro. Did you just roll outta bed?

  • @emaneht9886
    @emaneht9886 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In a world dominated by arm and driven by arm, you say goodbye to raspberry pi?

  • @josephspruill1212
    @josephspruill1212 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At the price for the zima board it isn’t going to kill anything! Looks cool but it’s too expensive! If zima was cheaper than the PI, then I would buy one! I thought the pi was expensive let alone!

  • @kiodiekin
    @kiodiekin 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    10:00 min mark ur storage speed test is still flawed. u were using a samsung t5 drive which is slower than a t7. u would have had faster results had u used the t7 for a more accurate result. T7 is almost twice as fast as the older T5, capable of offering up to 1,050MBps read speeds and 1,000MBps write speeds. In real-world testing, it tends to be closer to 1,000MBps and 800MBps, which are still pretty impressive speeds. On the other hand, the T5 is capable of reaching 505MBps read and 480MBps write speeds in real-world testing.

    • @DataSlayerMedia
      @DataSlayerMedia  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fair enough but I still get the sense many people are using the micro sd card which is glacially slow at ~16mbps...

    • @kiodiekin
      @kiodiekin 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DataSlayerMedia I run a few arcade gaming and retropie groups. Everyone is using ssd or usb since the update on 2020. We all knew sd cards were too slow especially for transferring games. I got several videos on it when we first integrated it ourselves.

  • @HelloDonkey9
    @HelloDonkey9 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    $220 board, yup what a rpi killer…
    Honestly in that price range, just buy a mini pc. You can get a ryzen 7 and use windows.

  • @MajorCaliber
    @MajorCaliber 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    SOOooooo... no *floating-point* hardware?